Living in the SF area myself, I was curious on how it handled the hills. I love your honesty, because many other 'tubers out there sing praises on this machine endlessly. Good to see that you pointed out its flaws along with its awesomness....
I’ve really enjoyed mine. It’s plenty fast it’s not a torque monster though. The lack of rear suspension hasn’t bothered me but I’m not pushing the bike or going off road. My max speeds on tough hills are like 18 to 20 from a stop. I’m like 6’1 about 190 and almost exclusively use throttle.
@@jagowesterduin7081 Ik heb hem uiteindelijk geannuleerd omdat ik het toch te prijzig vond, en ben toen voor een elektrisch longboard gegaan, de Exway X1 Pro. ik vindt deze ook prima, leuker dan een elektrische fiets eigenlijk, het enige nadeel is dat je er eigenlijk niet mee op de openbare weg mag maar dit longboard ziet er bijna uit als een normaal longboard en heb er tot nu toe nog geen problemen mee gehad. Als je gewoon een snelheid van 20-25km/u aanhoudt is er geen probleem en afentoe gewoon ff zelf de board kickpushen zonder de throttle te gebruiken is prima, de Exway x1 pro weegt ook maar 6kg ofs dus zelf de board kickpushen gaat prima. en om het board aan te zetten hoef je alleen maar het knopje van de remote in te drukken en hoef je niet eerst op een knopje op het board zelf in te drukken, ideaal!.
@@jagowesterduin7081 ik was altijd een super fanatic van de super73 maar ben practically in 1 avond geswitched naar RadPowerBikes / radrunner... letterlijk veeel chilller voor de prijs.. super73 is echt gwn de looks want in NL mag je toch nie snel
Good sound reviews touching on the key points of use. Nice. I’d like to see your review of the Riese and Mueller Super Charger. Thinking of getting one of them. Keep it up the good work and keep the vids coming!
The missing engine ("the negative space") is the m,ost beautiful thing about this bike. It's an artistic statement about the future. Reviwer is no artist!
One note I have is riding at high speeds around people could potentially hurt the ebike community. Safety concerns may make for some tough legislation in the future. Anyways, awesome video and stoked to see people passionate about ebikes!
You're exactly right and people have no business riding these things in unlimited mode on bicycle trails. It is beyond just dangerous, it is selfish and also downright reckless.
How are the lights of this bike? I would've liked to see a test during evening /night time maybe in a poorly illuminated streets. Plus it would have been awesome if the bike was foldable
I have the r series which is better than this one. It is great for one person. I wanted something that could handle two people but up hill it is hard to get going or impossible with 2 on it. For a tall or heavy person it’s not good bike. But up hill it sucks. And it’s super heavy. They need to add torque. It goes around 22 on flat. I think because they put the off road tires and shocks on mine. But uphill only about 11 on mode 4. Test ride it up hills before you buy it. I live in san clemente so lots of hills. I’m glad he let you know about the hills. It’s so heavy you can’t man power up a hill and I’m an athlete.
I have a Bagiebike b2+ . It has gears and goes 30 + mph in unlimited mode. It also has plenty of storage options. I got mine on sale for 2000. I like the look of the ebike your reviewing but the lack of gears/storage space and the high price tag isn't for me. If you do some research you can get a ebike that has everything you need.
That's actually a really good idea, you basically turned it into a hybrid. The added weight would suck but having the choice between gas & electric sounds nice. Warp drive or impulse power Mr. Sulu..
Nice....I seen a couple of diy hybrid gas/electric bike videos.They said it doesn't help top speed but helps for climbing hills & faster acceleration. I really want an e-bike like a 29in full suspension mid drive but it's soooo expensive. I found a 29in mongoose exhibit hard tail on sale for $99 (strong 48 spoke double wall wheels cheap bike but good for the price) and bought an Anbull 66-80cc 2 stroke kit for $120 put another $40 in on a thumb throttle, spring chain tensioner & misc.... I was gonna spend another $60 on rear rack,saddle bags & head/tail light = $320 a very good price for all you're getting . If I add another $120 for better cylinder head and expansion pipe exhaust. I'd have a great brand new motorized bike for $450 VS $2,700....The only thing I hate is the engine noise but so worth it to save $2,250 .
I'm an artist and a lot of times less is more in my art.. The whole idea of a Cafe racer is being minimalist. The emptiness of a Cafe racer is what makes it a Cafe racer.. lol
Currently have a Juiced RCS which I like and with over 1,400 miles has given me no problems, but I'm looking for a possible second e-bike. The Super 73 or Yamee Fat Bear 750 are the ones I've been looking at because they have a similar range, but I can tell by watching the videos on both, neither one of them have the same power as the Juiced on hills.
You don't need power to go up hills, just torque. I have a 250w class 1 ebike that can literally climb any hill that I am capable of keeping friction and balance on. That's because it's a mid drive motor that takes advantage of the gearing to get more torque. Power is wasted if it's not geared effectively. Hub motors are fine for cruising on flat ground
I'd love to get one but Super 73 has bumped the price across all their bikes. Since this initial review they've bumped the S2 price up by about $300 making it $3,000 from $2,695 👎👎
Great video! I purchased one April 20th 2020 got the white one love it but I love the black one more wish I would have gotten black! Finding it hard to find time to ride thinking about selling it less than 60 miles on it all just residential neighborhood riding on a neat freak and always kept it spotless I'm in Nebraska and it's just sitting in the garage waiting to be ridden always keep the battery in the house anyone interested?
Can you link the gear upgrade, I would be interested in swaping/upgrading them. I didn’t find it on there website. I’m currently looking at the Indian motorcycle edition which is only available on Indian website.
I like the look of the super 73 but I wish it had the battery design of zooz (under the seat) wish they would find a way to put the battery under the seat for a clean look on the frame. Makes it look a lot like a motorcycle more than a bike. But overall it seems like a solid design, love it. I'm possibly looking to purchase one soon.
$2,700 plus another $235 for the 10-speed kit. There are plenty of other bikes out there that have multi-gears and standard accessories (like rear racks, for instance), better pedaling ergonomics, etc., at way better prices.
Neg space is functional Not exactly pretty but what would you add …other than more weight limited range …imagine it’s good for storage mods. But as you said it’s already relatively underpowered 6-7hr charge…what’s way faster…?
Anyone know how tall Evan is? I want an e-ped so bad but I'm 6'2" and 220 lbs and not sure if I'd really fit on one. I had a little 50cc Tomos Targa 10 years ago and loved it, but just always felt a little big for it. I think that also topped out at 25-30 MPH.... but I believe it also got 80-90 miles per gallon too.
1:07 "negative space in the frame" 100% correct. I couldn't stand that look and went with Juiced HyperScrambler2 bike. The fake gas tank battery setup screams "I wish this was a real motorcycle" Wants a motorcyle? Get a real one. But e-Bikes must proudly remain.... e-Bike.
Given that motorcycles began their humble beginnings as a bicycle with a motor attached to it, I am not sure if I agree 100% with this. If anything, what we are witnessing is the rebirth of the moped/motorcycle. Just my 2 cents.
I like the negative space. It is an attention grabber, and makes anyone looking at it start to speculate about using that space. Payload capacity? A basic thin pouch for carrying misc crap?
Glad I saw this before purchasing my first ebike. Definitely not the bike for me, so far the Yamee XL is looking like a better fit so far. Don’t have the space for a bike like this one.
I live in very hilly area, I am looking to loose weight, but I don't want to get stuck out somewhere and I can't handle the large hills. The big thing here is I weigh 500lbs (down from 535) so I need a heavy duty bike, trike, or quad. Any Ideas?
Bro just go to the gym or if u don’t have any, do pushups, biking won’t do much, it will just help ur legs, do things like sit-ups, crunches, and pushups or go to your nearest gym
I'm having trouble deciding on this or the Ariel Rider D class I like the power in the D class from what I can see but I like the body better in the super 73
Looks amazing but, no carrying capability. At least not indicated here. So that's half its potential utility gone. Also, custom battery shapes etc, will they even still support this after 7 years?
These bikes r since but underpowered I can kinda c why they r purposely trying to straddle fence between a bicycle and a .moto bike I think in some ways its perfect for what there wanting it to be.
With a power rating of 750W nominal with a 2 KW peak, I see no reason why it should struggle on any hill short of lacking tire traction (which can happen to any bike). Single-speed only limits your own input power since you don't get the torque multiplication, but the motor shouldn't be too affected by that since it's a hub-drive. If it was a mid-drive, that would be a different story. Side note -- saved 16 minutes on a 12-mile commute in SF ... is that comparing this e-bike to a regular bike or the e-bike to some other mode of transit? I did an 11-mile commute back in the day, and it also included that same run up Embarcadero and the Marina trail and into the Presidio that was seen in the video... and that was on a regular folding bike, and it saved me more like 40 minutes versus taking the MUNI.
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Good commute ride for some people and I would use the center negative space for storage, say a clip on bag for the laptop on the way to work.
One of the best Super 73 reviews I have seen. Great mix of specs and opinion while keeping it short and sweet. Well done. Keep it up!
Whoa, thanks Ian! You rock!
Thanks Ian!
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I like this guy. Hard to be liked in a channel with a lot of existing entertaining talent
The negative space could benefit from a storage box shaped like an engine and also an option to secure more batteries.
Surely a triangle PE pouch secured by Velcro or such like can be found in the mountain bike shop?
the negative space is my favorite part and what makes it look cool to me
It’s also practical for like a bag underneath
Same here
That negative space is great for storage options.
I'm happy other people think like me lol
Living in the SF area myself, I was curious on how it handled the hills. I love your honesty, because many other 'tubers out there sing praises on this machine endlessly. Good to see that you pointed out its flaws along with its awesomness....
That means a lot, thank you!
Have you found a good option for the hills?
@@adrianb5028 the Ariel Rider Grizzly is a beast. Well worth the money.
He mentioned a brand when recommending going off road but i cant understand what he says. Anyone knows which one is it?
I’ve really enjoyed mine. It’s plenty fast it’s not a torque monster though. The lack of rear suspension hasn’t bothered me but I’m not pushing the bike or going off road. My max speeds on tough hills are like 18 to 20 from a stop. I’m like 6’1 about 190 and almost exclusively use throttle.
How do you paint rims? Do you have that in your channel?
How much miles you get I’m 205lbs I wanna buy one but want to know the range
About 25-30 miles using just throttle @@ihavetowait90daystochangem74
There are no hills in the Netherlands. So we’re good
Nee klopt maar toch heb ik er 1 besteld haha
@@teun294 Ahh. En? Hoe is het? Ik kan niet beslissen of ik moet of niet? Ik dacht misschien de RX.
@@jagowesterduin7081 Ik heb hem uiteindelijk geannuleerd omdat ik het toch te prijzig vond, en ben toen voor een elektrisch longboard gegaan, de Exway X1 Pro. ik vindt deze ook prima, leuker dan een elektrische fiets eigenlijk, het enige nadeel is dat je er eigenlijk niet mee op de openbare weg mag maar dit longboard ziet er bijna uit als een normaal longboard en heb er tot nu toe nog geen problemen mee gehad. Als je gewoon een snelheid van 20-25km/u aanhoudt is er geen probleem en afentoe gewoon ff zelf de board kickpushen zonder de throttle te gebruiken is prima, de Exway x1 pro weegt ook maar 6kg ofs dus zelf de board kickpushen gaat prima. en om het board aan te zetten hoef je alleen maar het knopje van de remote in te drukken en hoef je niet eerst op een knopje op het board zelf in te drukken, ideaal!.
@@jagowesterduin7081 ik was altijd een super fanatic van de super73 maar ben practically in 1 avond geswitched naar RadPowerBikes / radrunner... letterlijk veeel chilller voor de prijs.. super73 is echt gwn de looks want in NL mag je toch nie snel
The hills are dead In Holland
Good sound reviews touching on the key points of use. Nice.
I’d like to see your review of the Riese and Mueller Super Charger. Thinking of getting one of them. Keep it up the good work and keep the vids coming!
Thanks! I'll look into the Riese and Mueller SuperCharge
Finally, an honest feeling review. Most people don't even cover hills. Thanks! :-)
Damn I want one of these regardless :D
Damn the eiditing quality, especially at 3:05! Impressive!
Awesome review! Thanks for the honesty! Did not know that about the slow acceleration! Huge factor no one else has mentioned!!!
The missing engine ("the negative space") is the m,ost beautiful thing about this bike. It's an artistic statement about the future. Reviwer is no artist!
The front fender is backwards. No chance of stopping any mud that way
Looks like it came out of the box that way 2:53
One note I have is riding at high speeds around people could potentially hurt the ebike community. Safety concerns may make for some tough legislation in the future. Anyways, awesome video and stoked to see people passionate about ebikes!
The idiots should get out of the way. Then they won't get hit 🙂
You're exactly right and people have no business riding these things in unlimited mode on bicycle trails. It is beyond just dangerous, it is selfish and also downright reckless.
@@CaneFu Cry about it
If you can't pedal it without battery power - it's not a bike that will be enjoyable to cycle. This is a toy like so many
How are the lights of this bike? I would've liked to see a test during evening /night time maybe in a poorly illuminated streets. Plus it would have been awesome if the bike was foldable
I have the r series which is better than this one. It is great for one person. I wanted something that could handle two people but up hill it is hard to get going or impossible with 2 on it. For a tall or heavy person it’s not good bike. But up hill it sucks. And it’s super heavy. They need to add torque.
It goes around 22 on flat. I think because they put the off road tires and shocks on mine. But uphill only about 11 on mode 4.
Test ride it up hills before you buy it.
I live in san clemente so lots of hills. I’m glad he let you know about the hills. It’s so heavy you can’t man power up a hill and I’m an athlete.
That negative space should be removable waterproof luggage for touring or camping, or long range battery packs. Looks like some easy design work
😎👍
Love those videos, Evan! Well produced and great angles you filmed here. LOVE the dolly zoom at 1:10. Keep it up.
Thanks Lukas! Hope you're doing well!
Completely flat in north dakota. We good
I have a Bagiebike b2+ . It has gears and goes 30 + mph in unlimited mode. It also has plenty of storage options. I got mine on sale for 2000. I like the look of the ebike your reviewing but the lack of gears/storage space and the high price tag isn't for me. If you do some research you can get a ebike that has everything you need.
2700.00 in January and now 1400 in October. 51% loss in equity in 9 months...
Empty space perfect for luggage
I put a $149 49cc gas bike motor kit in mine (mostly for when the battery dies, lol) and it does over 34 with both motors
That's actually a really good idea, you basically turned it into a hybrid. The added weight would suck but having the choice between gas & electric sounds nice. Warp drive or impulse power Mr. Sulu..
Nice....I seen a couple of diy hybrid gas/electric bike videos.They said it doesn't help top speed but helps for climbing hills & faster acceleration. I really want an e-bike like a 29in full suspension mid drive but it's soooo expensive. I found a 29in mongoose exhibit hard tail on sale for $99 (strong 48 spoke double wall wheels cheap bike but good for the price) and bought an Anbull 66-80cc 2 stroke kit for $120 put another $40 in on a thumb throttle, spring chain tensioner & misc.... I was gonna spend another $60 on rear rack,saddle bags & head/tail light = $320 a very good price for all you're getting . If I add another $120 for better cylinder head and expansion pipe exhaust. I'd have a great brand new motorized bike for $450 VS $2,700....The only thing I hate is the engine noise but so worth it to save $2,250 .
I'm an artist and a lot of times less is more in my art..
The whole idea of a Cafe racer is being minimalist.
The emptiness of a Cafe racer is what makes it a Cafe racer.. lol
I imagine Boston singing “More than an e-bike! (more than an e-bike)”
Currently have a Juiced RCS which I like and with over 1,400 miles has given me no problems, but I'm looking for a possible second e-bike.
The Super 73 or Yamee Fat Bear 750 are the ones I've been looking at because they have a similar range, but I can tell by watching the videos on both, neither one of them have the same power as the Juiced on hills.
You don't need power to go up hills, just torque. I have a 250w class 1 ebike that can literally climb any hill that I am capable of keeping friction and balance on. That's because it's a mid drive motor that takes advantage of the gearing to get more torque. Power is wasted if it's not geared effectively. Hub motors are fine for cruising on flat ground
6:54 I dont have one but i want one, but I would recomend the Segway Dirt bike.
I'd love to get one but Super 73 has bumped the price across all their bikes. Since this initial review they've bumped the S2 price up by about $300 making it $3,000 from $2,695 👎👎
dude the negative space is why I bought one. incredible work super73!
Great video! I purchased one April 20th 2020 got the white one love it but I love the black one more wish I would have gotten black! Finding it hard to find time to ride thinking about selling it less than 60 miles on it all just residential neighborhood riding on a neat freak and always kept it spotless I'm in Nebraska and it's just sitting in the garage waiting to be ridden always keep the battery in the house anyone interested?
How much ?
@@giasamuel7822 2000
still selling?
Sure
Hey plz tell me what color is this? Obsidian or galaxy black?? I want to buy this for real.
Great review !
Great review. Informative, objective and fun to view. Many thanks
6:38 thank u for the honest review
Has anyone used it as a two-seater? It looks like it can comfortably be used with a second person on the back
It can
@@ZLR8331 does it have some place to put their feet?
@@Warg00 you have to buy the pegs off their store, but there are holes there for them
@@ZLR8331 thanks
The negative space is great to hang some hiking shoes for when there’s an incline and you need to walk the bike uphill.
Would LOVE to see an Onyx RCR review.
They just shut down unfortunately :/
Can you link the gear upgrade, I would be interested in swaping/upgrading them. I didn’t find it on there website. I’m currently looking at the Indian motorcycle edition which is only available on Indian website.
That gap in the middle could take a nicely shaped fibre compartment for storage
I like that unobtrusive display, it's a cool looking bike just too expensive
Did they ever get the battery charging problem fixed? Or the accelerating problem fixed
I like the look of the super 73 but I wish it had the battery design of zooz (under the seat) wish they would find a way to put the battery under the seat for a clean look on the frame. Makes it look a lot like a motorcycle more than a bike. But overall it seems like a solid design, love it. I'm possibly looking to purchase one soon.
There’s a model that’s like that if you want
I personally like the battery on top look
Nice review,
But I think the bike is overpriced and under powered and no suspension at the back either.
$2,700 plus another $235 for the 10-speed kit. There are plenty of other bikes out there that have multi-gears and standard accessories (like rear racks, for instance), better pedaling ergonomics, etc., at way better prices.
Neg space is functional Not exactly pretty but what would you add …other than more weight limited range …imagine it’s good for storage mods. But as you said it’s already relatively underpowered
6-7hr charge…what’s way faster…?
Hey! Is the gas trigger included?
Hmm. All this time, I never realized forever was actually 15 seconds. Who knew?
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I'd love something like this, but with a more powerful motor and better pedaling ergonomics to get up hills more easily. Any suggestions?
I love the design. You have space for storage.
In unlimited mode, how does it do on the hills?
How much Xtra battery's cost ?
I live in San Francisco and was concerned about hills. I think a Mid-Drive motor is probably needed here.
no rear suspension or extra battery makes it a tough choice. but its a beautiful bike, love the retro look
Rear suspension kills efficiency and power delivery on any bike.
@@larryhouse3776 the griz seems to do alright. Two motors is the answer
GOOD REVIEW FROM AN HONEST GUY ! THE BIKES A LITTLE SLUGISH . "" SWEETEST SONG I KNOW,ARMOR ""
Still have my Honda mini trail 70
any way to charge this directly from 12v or solar? How is this on soft sand?
Best review !
Can you put foot pegs on the rear for a second passenger ?
Anyone know how tall Evan is? I want an e-ped so bad but I'm 6'2" and 220 lbs and not sure if I'd really fit on one. I had a little 50cc Tomos Targa 10 years ago and loved it, but just always felt a little big for it. I think that also topped out at 25-30 MPH.... but I believe it also got 80-90 miles per gallon too.
1:07 "negative space in the frame" 100% correct. I couldn't stand that look and went with Juiced HyperScrambler2 bike. The fake gas tank battery setup screams "I wish this was a real motorcycle"
Wants a motorcyle? Get a real one. But e-Bikes must proudly remain.... e-Bike.
Given that motorcycles began their humble beginnings as a bicycle with a motor attached to it, I am not sure if I agree 100% with this. If anything, what we are witnessing is the rebirth of the moped/motorcycle. Just my 2 cents.
I'd get one if a 4 stroke bike add on would work with it
Can I ask how tall you are? I'm 6'5" and don't think it'll fit my frame but...
5'10". It might be an uncomfortable ride for you. I'd definitely test one out first.
love this bike. its so cool. but i know if i had one it be stolen where i live.
So wait, I won’t go up steak hills at all or only in peddle mode
I wouldnt buy it...its a single speed. So no, it wont really go up really steep hills.
how can I ship one to a non supported region?
That ramp reminded me of Napoleon and Pedro
He got like 3 feet of air.
I like the negative space. It is an attention grabber, and makes anyone looking at it start to speculate about using that space.
Payload capacity? A basic thin pouch for carrying misc crap?
For this money...that seat should have more cushion.
That's great and all but why does it cost almost as much as New entry level motorbike, or a used car
Because the tech involved
Nice review.
Just bought my s2 because of you
Glad I saw this before purchasing my first ebike. Definitely not the bike for me, so far the Yamee XL is looking like a better fit so far. Don’t have the space for a bike like this one.
I live in very hilly area, I am looking to loose weight, but I don't want to get stuck out somewhere and I can't handle the large hills. The big thing here is I weigh 500lbs (down from 535) so I need a heavy duty bike, trike, or quad. Any Ideas?
Bro just go to the gym or if u don’t have any, do pushups, biking won’t do much, it will just help ur legs, do things like sit-ups, crunches, and pushups or go to your nearest gym
@@elusha3926 It is getting outside and being mobile and riding with my son and wife. I am having a hard time with motivation so biking will help alot.
I'm having trouble deciding on this or the Ariel Rider D class I like the power in the D class from what I can see but I like the body better in the super 73
S2 looks great but Ariel rider makes way better bikes - and they look great and cost less too so I think it’s kind of a no brainer
Good review Dude.
They could use the negative space at a storage add on feature
What kind of body types would this style more suit, I'm 5'11" 250ish so would it get me around okay
weight limit is 325 and should feel comfortable from people who are 5’1 to 6’2 but you can check on the official website :)
How fast did you go
Awesome review
Get a custom-built luggage bag for the negative space so you can carry everything
Why wouldn’t they make a storage accessory for the negative space?
cool video! check out th e EU spec S2-RX, they go up hills easy!
Looks amazing but, no carrying capability. At least not indicated here. So that's half its potential utility gone. Also, custom battery shapes etc, will they even still support this after 7 years?
These bikes r since but underpowered I can kinda c why they r purposely trying to straddle fence between a bicycle and a .moto bike I think in some ways its perfect for what there wanting it to be.
works great in the hills
Is it street legal in California?
How the hell are you going to call the bike capable when it can't even go up a hill
That's where I stopped watching the video
he didn't say it can't go up hills. he says some hills.
@@imperfekt7905 He mentions the options you can do for more capacity although the same power.
lol honda trail 70 was my first motorcycle too....
In OFFROAD (4) mode, does it have enough power for a hill?
The negative space is cool change. Get a rukus if you don’t like it .
I have this bike and the Z1 fun bikes to mess around on the streets or a park
With a power rating of 750W nominal with a 2 KW peak, I see no reason why it should struggle on any hill short of lacking tire traction (which can happen to any bike). Single-speed only limits your own input power since you don't get the torque multiplication, but the motor shouldn't be too affected by that since it's a hub-drive. If it was a mid-drive, that would be a different story.
Side note -- saved 16 minutes on a 12-mile commute in SF ... is that comparing this e-bike to a regular bike or the e-bike to some other mode of transit? I did an 11-mile commute back in the day, and it also included that same run up Embarcadero and the Marina trail and into the Presidio that was seen in the video... and that was on a regular folding bike, and it saved me more like 40 minutes versus taking the MUNI.
It has something to do with the controller cause the motor is very powerfull
This Make the Sondors Madmod a steal
Is better then the super73 rx?
how tall are you? I'm 6'3 what do you think about size?
It looks so beautiful!!
Should have went to the top of the GGB. Then across to Sausalito. Test that hill going down to Sausalito.
Seems like you could use that negative space to hold MUCH more battery!