Comic Book Media Want To Murder Superhero Comics
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- Опубликовано: 8 май 2024
- The more ideas the comic book media offer to help fix Marvel and DC the more it becomes clear they want to murder superhero comics. This week CBR suggested DC go all-in on slice -of-life comics. Despite all the evidence that DC and Marvel fans don't buy them. CBR writer David Harth claims the strong reaction to the Trinity backup stories in Wonder Woman are proof superhero fans want more slice-of-life. The problem is nobody is talking about those stories and nobody is buying Wonder Woman to read them. Harth even points to several past slice-of-life comics as proof we need more. Too bad all of them were cancelled early due to low sales. Wes and Aaron discuss the latest stupid take from David Harth and CBR and set the record straight. Comic book media want to murder superhero comics.
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Our boi Zack said it best about bisexual heroes. Bi today, gay tomorrow.
I just read an article that explained at length why comic books and superhero movies need more female representation, I kid you not. I double-checked to make sure it wasn't written in 2015 but no, it was new. Had to be a Disney plant.
They can't even define what is woman. So it would be really just more dudes.
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Let me guess. There needs to be more women in comics because there isn't enough of women in comics. I could write a long list of comic books with plenty of women in them!
@milestrombley1466 Especially at this point. I collect a lot of back issues, and there have always been a ton of female representation in comics. Whoever says this argument needs to be called out as ignorant.
@@PrivateCitizen84dudes with small boobs.
That's the thing these writers don't get. I remember a Slice of Life moment in Sensational She-Hulk. There's an issue where Jen's going shopping. But guess what. That is only a few pages long. And it goes right back to the story problem. In cases her losing the clothes she just bought. Because she was attacked. It has never been the main plot of a single issue. Till writers like Tamaki.
I do often wonder how a man can write an article like this and put it out for all to see. Geez, some people just don’t feel shame.
How is CBR still in business?
@@teastrainer3604 Yea I’ve no idea how them & all of these similar companies are still open, Kotaku, Wired, IGN are all exactly the same & I don’t know how they’re still going.
Good job men are not a monolith. Imagine all of us being that guy? RIP human race.
Escapism is the key ingredient. You can be a boring person and still write interesting stories, as long as you have imagination. In comics, you can easily pick out all the writers who lack imagination by looking for the blatant author inserts.
Not to mention the slice of life stuff in Manga is much better written and far more entertaining (sometimes with fantastical elements) than the crap made by Marvel/DC/western comics
Because slice of life mangas are based in the real life and not in a fantastic world.
Once upon a time Comics covered many genres, Heroes was just the most popular that many comic companys went under, but horror comics were still popular. but the 80s was the rise of indie/alternative comics, it's said the comic that helped this rise was Love & Rockets, a punk rock comic.
@@EvandroACruzBecause slice of life manga are (a) written for people that actually like slice of life and (b) written by competent people. Superheroes isn’t a slice of life genre to begin with and its core audience doesn’t want slice of life, but it really dies, when talent less hacks are sold as writers.
CBR just said, "Hold my beer! Let us help you drive those final nails into the coffin of the comic industry!"
*bud light
'...don't involve fighting villains'? Sounds more like don't involve actual sales.
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I really enjoyed David Michelinie run on the ASM he created Venom. I loved Peter and Mary Jane interaction during his run, I wish would come back
He was a terrible writer and was the first person to drive me from Amazing Spider-Man, or as I called it under his run, Stutter-Man. Spider-Man was stuttering like Shaggy to the point he was even stuttering in his thought bubbles, which were very excessive even for the era. I don’t even give him credit for Venom as I hate derivative characters that have the same powers as the hero, it just dilutes the hero. I hate Spider-themed villains like Venom as well as spider-themed sidekicks like Silk, Miles, Ben Reilly, etc. I think SJW writers are worse than even Michelinie but I don’t want him back either.
One of my favorite episodes of Dragon Ball Z ever, is a slice of Life episode where Goku and Piccolo try to get their driver's license but what makes it work is that it's a quirky episode in between two massive serious arcs the Android and cell sagas. If all DBZ was, was episodes like the driver's license episode I probably wouldn't watch it
And to be fair, the original manga was very quirky and lots of comedy at the start, Akira Toriyama was imo really good at comedy. But let’s better not compare some hack writers at DC with a legend like him.
@@davidgantenbein9362 he could also tell people were showing up for action. And pivoted as needed.
BASED Aaron Sparrow is best Aaron Sparrow. That was the best argument for "climate change" as a thing in comics I've ever heard.
The next big marvel event should be everyone facing off against Dr Climate, who has the power to change the temperature in the atmosphere 0.1 degree every hundred years. Will they find him in time???
Super-Hero comic books is escapism. Accent on E-s-c-a-p-i-s-m.
Yes and modern writers don't understand this.
You are right. We need a little slice of life peppered into the story. That enhances the story. Garnishes to the main course.
In manga, slice of life stories either have a genre dedicated to them or they're just filler episodes in an action anime.
You know what? Aaron is correct. We definitely need more robots and death rays. I find zero falsehoods here.
Peter didnt date during Michilinie's run.
...and sales keep falling. Morons run the comic book industry. Readers turn to comics for adventure, fantasy, and escapism. I blame writing classes especially college level writing classes...aspiring writers are told they have to write about what they know and their own lives to reach a level of sincerity that connects with the reader...modern writing instructors do not appreciate fantasy or genre concepts. It's been this way for a long time. They were teaching this when I was in school back in the 1990s. For a creative writing class, I wrote a horror short story...got it back and it said..."Well written, but genre junk..B-.
No we don’t. I wanna see Batman being Batman. Downtime/slice of life storytelling should be told at the end of the arc with three or four pages. The same fail writers just keep failing because leadership doesn’t want to admit they fail.
The funniest thing is, Batman is his life. He works in business all day, then fights crime all night. He developed techniques so he could sleep less.
The best "slice of life" style book that did it right was JLI era. For anlong time theynhad a very good blend of action and slice of life.
But thats why it was special, you had a incredible team working on it. Writers and artists. You cannot maintain that over an entire line of books. If everyone is doing the "bwahaha" then it dilutes it.
Tell me A good story and get rid of Jon Kent.
How can someone who is so RIGHT about Comics be so WRONG about Wrestling ? Just to clarify , I'm not talking about Wes 😁
Dc comics are dead. Marvel comics are dead. Indie comics are a hit or miss... Manga is the only thing that people can really relate to. Even fanfiction is better than the actual market itself. And this is a joke that I would make up on the fly. Thank God for anime and manga. As a long-time Superman fan, this is heartbreaking to me...
They're either lying or stupid.
Modern DC/Marvel is utterly incapable of doing Manga-style slice of life; titles like K-ON or Flying Witch, the fandom's nickname for it is "cute girls doing cute things", there's no butch women in a half-shave complaining about the difficulties of being "queer", it's all attractive women being feminine while doing whatever it is they do. And they hate that even more than they do superheroics.
"Her older brothers"
No. They're grooming Jon and Damian to be two daddies.
Online independent comic writers portray slice-of-life integrated into SMASH BOOM POW action. They are not mutually exclusive.
The comic industry as a whole is atrocious. I walked away and have no desire to return. Will only read old comics from the 60s to the 90s. You guys covering the comic news is the only connection I have to current comics. Classic anime and video games fill the void and that is sad as I love comics, or used to until the modern hacks got hold of it
I don’t know, I think there’s a decent amount of buzz over the Ghost Machine books right now, but it’s entirely possible it’s only in my own little bubble. It’s really too bad, cuz all three were great, and Rook was prolly the best #1 issue I’ve read in a while.
Do You think DC comics should keep slice of life on non cannon graphic novels or webtoons. It’s good to be a breather comic or issue, but not for an entire issue of slice of life.
It's like they purposely, and out of spite, refuse to understand the genre they are working on and the primary audience that likes reading them.
I liked the moments of seeing the xmen play baseball or doing normal things like hanging out in New York in those brief moments when their lives weren't in danger.
You guys need to invite these "journalists" on the channel to discuss comics. Let's see if a) they have the balls to do it, and b) to find out what knowledge they have of comics.
They absolutely will not do it. I'm sure they have done it with some of these writers. They are not going to engage in dialogue with who they consider the "other side".
I'm glad I dropped Tom King's Wonder Woman after issue #5, and that's because the main story sucked. However, slice of life backup story, that's a double nope for me spending $4.99 per issue.
If I wanted a majority of slice of life stories I wouldn't be looking for them in sci-fi & fantasy worlds. Plenty of stories of that kind in other genres.
They are already doing a bang-up job helping the pros destroy the industry. They've already wrecked the heroes.
I wouldn't really classify Lois Lane or Jimmy Olsen as slice of life stories, they're more wacky silver age adventures.
Evil: I create Nothing! I only Destroy!
Good: Evil has nothing of value to offer an Honest Man!
Corrupt: I can’t gain Anything except through DISHONESTY.
Steve Ditko: Make your choice! No one can do it for you! You either uphold the Good or you join the Evil!
-Mr. A.
Reading a 2017 comic run set in future. The overarching story about a corrupt corporation is fun. Though the slice of life parts are dated cringe in 2024.
Slice of life can work in an action comic, it’s just the slice of life needs to be interesting. Both Bakemonogatari & Call of the Night both have heavy slice of life elements in their story and both are in my top 10 favourite manga.
The problem is the people they’re hiring to write the slice of life are just terrible and can’t do it.
Frieren too!
@@AL-ws5yi Oh yea, I should have mentioned Frieren too, such a great story.
There's some good slice of life stuff in The Boys books, like Herogasm is just powered people hanging out.
The Wayne Family Chronicles was readable actually, unlike some of the other showings DC has put on their. Also, there's a large number of Slice of Life comics on there, so there's already a built in audience there. I think some of the Korean comics on there do make pretty good money with their paid for comics, the team on a webtoon comic though is lean compared to an American comic.
TBH, it's entertaining to see a fussy, career-driven person with Damian Wayne's personality driven straight up a wall, just like we know he's done to his parents. Even a "slice of life" story requires narrative conflicts that powers cannot insta-solve.
Edit: Also, the vibe I get from the small backup stories is that either the writer of the main story is desperate to stretch things out, or cover for the fact that the team can't finish a complete book within their deadlines.
Slice of life moments in comic book stories can help to build characters, but they can never be the focuse, super heros are action stories. Slice of life, in manga, does work cause they're a complete separate genre of stories, wich generally normal characters doing they're daily stuff.
I wonder how much comics gonna start doing what the manga/japanese comics do, with an editorial can have shonen for boys, shoujo for girls, seinen for adults males and josei for adult women. And probably for LGBT like yuri and yaoi.
And everybody happy. Not superheroes aimed to adult women with cats, with yaoi stories and boring, actionless stories.
Japan probably makes better slice-of-life stories, but I prefer bad ass action stuff without boring ass soap opera.
Kenneth Rocafort Groken background I'm lovin it.
Looking for this comment, it is superb.
Love Aaron's take on this.
On the 'webtoon' front, I'd also be willing to guess that the demographic who 'don't usually read big 2 comics' might have been natives to the south east who generally have Slice of Life as a genre in their own industry
Slice of life stories are based in our real world not in a fictional fantastic universe full of super powered people. This just don't work the superhero genre. Slice of Life mangas are great because the mangakas understand this.
Like i said Mariko tamaki is worst writer, she did She-Hulk way worse period back in later half of previous decade but at least in this decade Rainbow Rowell, Roge Antonio and their team restored She-Hulk's look and personality back to her former glory with sexy leotard and everything
It's like Wes said: slice of life Manga is popular, with people that read slice of life Manga. The focus of superhero comics should be superheroes. Flesh out the characters by all means, but even that Webtoons thing only has popularity as it's supplemental TO the character of Batman, who has been a popular character for longer than my Nan has been alive.
The best balance for a comic, maybe an arc, I think Stan said this, was 2 parts action, 1 part personal (Slice of Life). But Hollywood doesn't understand that.
The only thing I would say is that The Spirit and Astro City did a lot of slice of life stories, and did so in a masterful way.
Aaron is more interesting than all of Marvel and DC’s line.
Awesome work guys
I feel like the reason comics has taken such a downturn is because we lack varieties in categories horror action fantasy and stories that continue not rebooted everytime we get involved in characters .
On any long on going story, I can see slice of life working as small breaks in between adventures and events. But it should be in small doses, as even anime/manga does it a lot, but those are either small chapters or like a beach or hot spring special. Other than that, its usually high adventure and exploration depending on story.
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Thanks Cosmo, i mean, Aaron
I don't mind brief slice of life moments in an issue, but the action should always be king.
So I will give example of how right Wes is when it comes to DC's YA books. We would order them at NEC, but we would order them through the book distributor we had an account with. Why? That allowed for us to return them for credit, as opposed to not being able to with Diamond. It also allowed us to take a bit more risk in the number ordered with the returnability. Usually what would happen is you'd get terrible sales on them...sell maybe 20% of what was ordered. Then the remaining 80% would go back for credit. I can tell you for a fact if we didn't have returnability on the books we would barely have ordered them at all. Why? They don't sell to comic fans, and the people that do want them do not shop in comic shops. Basically I don't see how DC makes any money with them as the interest is just so low. Slice of life works in American comics when it's done in the right places, and by people know how to present it. But nobody wants it 24/7 in their books. I like a good slice of life issue....but an issue...maybe 2 throught a 12 issue run in the year. But not all the time. It's not what I am looking for. WTF20.
If anything, I might like to see how a villain's day goes. When Doctor Doom's feet hit the ground from waking is his first thought world domination, a new machine, defeating Reed Richards, dealing with one of his subject's problems, negotiating a treaty with a neighbor country??? Sorry, but reading about Clark Kent or Peter Parker navigating a news story or dealing with soap-opera relationship drama just doesn't compare.
They're not the only ones. So does everyone in the current Comic Book industry. They've been running it into the ground for years now without any sign of stopping.
Ur right. Geiger, Redcoat, and Rook Exodus are fantastic and yet theirs like Zero Buzz about any of those books. I hope that changes bcuz they're really good books
I feel like the industry should stick to what it knows best. If it tries to adapt in line with manga, they need to realize that manga is almost a different medium. They can do slice of life more interestingly, because it is cheaper to make, and they write more pages. Full color, expensive pages made slowly and monthly doesn't really work for the slice of life genre.
Aaron is my favorite guest you have on your channel
The YA DC/Marvel books are so bad! They're killing future comic fans, I'm fighting them by showing kids Ditko ASM.
"Someone editor at Marvel basically saw the Anime 'Food Wars' and said to themselves HEY! I CAN DO THAT TOO! {Marvel's Test Kitchen Comic Book Series} No Marvel. No You Cant."
-The Fourth Age
I have no idea who you guys are but every video I see you are laying down the truth. Comics were fun for me for decades. Marvel and DC are dying faster than I ever thought possible. At !east there is a back stock I missed while during my busiest working years. Subbed.
What is that drawing in the background behind Aaron sparrow?
Kneel Before Doomface
Look I am suffering through this stupid Wonder Woman Tom King run okay I promise the audience of mines that I was going to review Wonder Woman because everybody knows I'm one woman fan but them Trinity backup stories are boring They are waste of time they don't add nothing to the story and it's the slice of life that I just do not care about. Like you said slice of life stories belong in the genre but it's like time and a place know when it's okay to do slice of life know when it's not and like you said before with manga they have their own genre They don't take Dragon Ball Z and be like hey let's make it slice of life You know what I'm saying or my hero academia They might have one chapter and that's it maybe other than that they're not going to dedicate the entire story to slice of life and another thing too is they're not going to change a lot of the characters to LGBT and think that that's going to make people want to read their books again all of that is niche and if you want to do that that's great but understand it's for an each audience not a mainstream audience
OMG those Trinity stories are terrible. I skim it because it is barely readable. I don't know why we need a backup in WW to begin with.
"Slice of Life"???
I don't need a "Slice of Life".
I don't need someone, who can't get off their Cell Phones, to tell me about life.
I don't have a Twitter/X account, I have a life.
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Are they f*ing kidding? The so called "slice of life" parts on Superhero comics in the past was there usually to build the characters a d their relationships, but ideally never occupying most of the issue, or if so, (and it wasn't always welcome by readers) would be like in Clairmont era X-men as a "filler issue" between two major sagas. Today, it became a joke thanks to fanfic Tumblr writers' infiltration. We don't need more of that!
When will DC open up the gates so people with good stories can bring their material in? :'
If I want a slice-of-life manga, I can go read "Frieren: Beyond Journey's End", it's about an immortal Elf that defeated the Demon King going on a journey of discovery, to learn about humans, we follow her, her apprentice Fern, and Stark the warrior as they travel from town to town, learn about each other, the world and periodically fight monsters and demons along the way to go to Heaven. It's considered one of the best anime of 2023 and the manga is popping off, that's my slice of life, not whatever DC and Marvel's trying to write
I think DC is better than marvel right now but I'm still done with both.
Agreed.
"Isn't Tom King very entertaining?"
Yes I am purposely being a jackass
While slice of life stuff can be done well and add to a character, it should not be the main focus of a superhero comic. For instance, a lot of Spider-Man stories and Robin stories (either Dick Grayson or Tim Drake) have had slice of life stuff, but there were still plenty of superhero elements (battling villains, investigating crimes, etc.). It’s one thing to have a change of pace issue showing what the heroes do on their “day off” and another to have the slice of life stuff take up more than 50% of each issue of what is supposed to be an action series.
I don't really like this purposeless mixing of genres, you mix genres when you have a unique idea and not because some idiots don't want to see action stories in SUPER HEROES.
They've completely lost the plot at CBR, haven't they? Or at least this Harth guy has. Did he ever even talk with a person that likes superhero comics? And I don't mean some Twitter/X weirdo, but an actual person who buys and reads those comics. Because the utter nonsense he writes in that article (if you can even call it that) makes me think that he never interacted with one.
Is that Kenneth Rocafort's art behind Aaron?
To be fair that Tom King story was probably the best stuff hes done in years. Because his Wonder Woman run has been dog $#!@.
I actually like slice of life when they are just a small fraction of the main story that help building a character’s personality. In a superheroes story the main focus should be always on action and/or adventure.
I used to read superheroes comics for escapism. What happened recently?
All that they have to do to fix DC Comics is to have a story that that brings back the pre-Crisis DC Universe and Multiverse, but which also brings back the post-Zero Hour DC Universe and Multiverse.
All that they have to do to fix Marvel Comics is to have a story that brings back the pre-Age Of Apocalypse Marvel Universe and Multiverse, but which also brings back the pre-One More Day Marvel Universe and Multiverse.
That will undo all of the bad and stupid stories in DC and Marvel from 1995 to the present. All it takes is for the Presence, a.k.a. the Source to magically alter reality and for the One Above All to cosmically alter reality and both respective comic book universes and multiverses.
A DC Universe where the Crisis On Infinite Earths never happened and a Marvel Universe where the Age Of Apocalypse and One More Day never happened. That would undo Infinite Crisis and Final Crisis, and Countdown, and that would also undo Civil War, Civil War II and House Of X/Powers Of X. It's not perfect, but it's a start.
Growing up we had an obviously sexist statement we would make as young boys: "girls ruin everything.
Sorry ladies, we DID shortly grow out of it .. we of course changed our opinions over time, but what we really meant was, every single time parents and teachers demanded we let girls play, little sisters, classmates, with whatever we were doing, the rules had to change, often the entire activity, to accomodate them. Sure we were throwing dirt clods at each other, but the next thing it was literally a tea party?... Not cool.
Of course, once they started to hit puberty, they got priority in baseball because they got the height and development and coukd kick ass, and ultimately we learned to respect that, but the situation changed again, persisting in our hobbies, or when girls discovered boys, turning to ostracization in, or due to our hobbies..
We learned in a more nuanced sense that there are those boys and girls who want to play, those who liked the activity as it is, from D& D to stick fighting, and amongst those, those rare, oft misunderstood visionaries who saw the potential for even greater games or saw a chance to add to it, and of course, there were those who didn't like it as is, wanting various changes to the rules, some of them unpopular some necessary but buzz kills, and finally, those dreaded induviduals who wanted everybody to play an entirrly different game or activity andvtried to force it. There were also those who crticised you for playing it at all.
It wasn't "girls ruin everything" at all, it was "not all activities are for everybody, and shouldn't be." or more colloquially, "stay out of our stuff".
Sure it was gatekeeping, but really can you blame us? For the rest of my life I've seen niche activities destroyed upon the mainstream altar of "more popularity is good" even if it was unrecognizeable in the end, and an entirely different audience that attacked us for not being true fans becaysecwecdidn't like the new better version that they now liked (when they had been criticising it and us before)..
The curse is similar to "may you live in interesting times" but it has become "May the niche thing you love go mainstream"
They know the model Manga uses when it comes to the different genres they just don’t want to try it. They need established IPs and characters to get attention and have those fans to blame when they fail. Anything they do original will not sell. Oh yeah, they also don’t have the ability to be that creative. Lol
Goes to show you King’s WW is so bad that the basic bitch back up story Tom wrote stands out as superior. When in reality it is the most vanilla entry level story telling.
I really think if marvel would allow Peter and MJ back togheter amazing spider-man would pick up in sales.
Its only a smal part but its grounding the hero, make him more relatable.
Pleas don't attack me..its only an opinion.
You are absolutely correct. Do not be afraid to have an opinion. Always speak your mind in a courteous manner. People should always be open to civil discussion.
@@O_G_HELLBOY i feel i need to put a disclaimer every time i adress the topic.
My last post i made on the subject did not go over so well with certain people.
They felt like i was trying to take away from the hero..
I only want what is best for our hero.
@@user-tc7gd5fq1r How is it taking away? Supporting characters are necessary in order to tell a good story. MJ and Aunt May are two of the best examples. Both of them are important to Peter in all the right ways. They are his family and ground him as you stated. Not every character can be the main character and this is what the current writers do not understand.
Slice of Life, oh God now I'm getting a bad feeling about why they've been aging Damian Wayne so fast. They want to catch him up to John as quickly as they can so then he can come out as bisexual to and they start dating each other soon after and when John dumps his current boyfriend Jay Nakamura because of reasons Damian and John will celebrate by blowing each other on the first issue of their new ongoing title Romantic Super Sons
My hero academia has more than 100 million copies in circulation across 40 volumes. It is the top superhero comic in the world at the moment. It does have some slice minor slice of life alements, the main focus are people trying to become heroes. The best xmen books probably can't even get a tenth of its market and that is marvel/dc core audience.
Slice of life already has its own following and they don't care about the day to day live of a superhero and it will be about superheroes if it's marvel and dc
Just the other day I was saying.yuno comics might come back from the dead if only wr had more sitting around and talking ...if only I could get 12 issues of Peter sitting in a cool cofee shop just venting ... those old back issues were just non stop heroics.... the industry needs to be more "soap opera" we don't want action packed good versus evil we want general hospital /days of our lives in comic form .. 🙄🙄🙄🙄
The Recipe 😀..
Write that part down
those back ups are SUPERRRRRRRRRRRR TRASH we cant read this Book and then get in the back of this ... if you like that wonder woman run you do not check this back up and Aaron smokes once again!
The thing is superman can cure climate change all on his own, carrying a sign isnt heroic he could use his cold breath
Siempre he dicho siempre diré que DC es una empresa estúpida ellos tuvieron a tierra 2 donde los hijos de la Trinidad estaba haciendo un gran trabajo como héroe y a parte de éso tenía una gran popularidad cazadora la hija Batman y selina y la hija de WW y Steven eran la futura Trinidad (y si las feminista radicales estaría feliz porque eran 2 mujeres claro faltaba el hijo de Superman), pero era concepto genial y no se sentía forzado como esta nueva "Trinidad", dc perdio a tierra 2 por codia por seguir explotando a los héroes principales, pero claro ahorita se dan cuenta que no evolucionar los estan matando
people would be ok with slice of life comics if these writers could ya know actually write interesting slice of life comics
Slice of life has almost no place in comics.
Wrong on alot of things, but I'm just gonna point out "Superman's Girlfriend Lois Lane" sold very well, and you know what most of it is still entertaining because it's well written. Is there some really stupid issues once in awhile, yes and those issues are very stupid, But for the most part the stories are fun, funny, entertaining and well written. You can fight me on that (and climate change), but one thing we can agree on Superhero Comics should be action based comics first.
Do you know what ‘slice of life,’ stories are?
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i agreed w aaron until he said climate change is fiction. i live in the equator and i feel its effects everyday. don't tell me it's fiction just because u disagree w 90% of climate scientists.
Except the scientists have lied repeatedly, lied about lying and refused to release their methodology. It is such a reality former presidents are.selling their island properties. Oh wait, they preach rising ocean levels while spending millions on island properties. Is the potential harm inflated for perceived political advantage? Yes. Climate change as popularized is not real.
When spice life stories are just about hanging out at Starbucks but with only poc or alphabet characters proliferating the place they are not spice of life but agenda driven.....at best the spice of life was the breather story between adventures not the focus of being lazy and slothful and how the world upsets the writer but a story that brought characters together then bam something bad happens like lois dieing in lex's earthquake and Superman feels for that moment weak like he was kicked in the balls....for we the reader know what he lost and is feeling since it was built up right ..