Before I opened my Chevron Station in 1970, they sent me through 2 of their schools. They said the reason to warm the oil was because any metal particles would settle in the engine when cold and when warm are suspended in the hot oil and be removed with the oil. Cheers, Russ
Personally I always pre fill the oil filter before installing to cut down on the time any area has to run without full pressure. Those KN are brilliant with the bolt head at the bottom, my only worry on a bike that is going off roads is that the bolt head could catch a rock ledge and the bottom of the filter could get ripped off. By the time you found out your engine would be toast. I appreciate there is a bash plate in front but I could not count on that myself, all it takes is a dislodged rock.
I have a 2020 1200 Scrambler and I don't warm my bike up either. Im in no rush and like you said, all the oil should be down in the sump and filter so I skip the heating part.
Hi Larry, thanks for the effort and the share. Some good tips. Awesome stuff. I doubt if this will change your mind. Old dog new tricks. I was taught the reason is not to heat up oil by bike standing/ idling. One should ride the crap out of it to mix all the carbon with oil. It's the carbon that went to lay in the nook and crannies. The carbon then drain with oil. Will you get it all. Nope. Will you get more than normal, most likely.
Main thing I don't like is having to use corrugated, flexible oil fill tube. Keeping dust and dirt from collecting in the ridges is almost impossible. I store mine in a clean plastic bag but like a smooth funnel best since I can run a clean cloth through it before the oil goes in.
Great video thanks! Only thing I would do differently is to fill the new filter with oil so there’s less time to prime the oiling system. Looking forward to your trip, will you be vlogging any of it?
@@ManCaveMayhem Awesome! Based off your recommendations I ordered and received the Unit Garage pannier racks and I added the Atlas top cases and side cases and they are super sturdy. They hold a helmet in the left case and top case. For passenger comfort, they sell a 3” thick back pad for the top case to add some back support for a passenger.
I would run the engine prior to the change personally , debris (fine metal wear particles and carbon) that have settled out of the oil during days of standing end up sitting on the floor of the oil pan , these will become suspended in the oil again when the engine is run and then hopefully be drawn out with the oil as it drains, doing it your way could allow an ever increasing amount of debris to be left sitting in the pan at every consecutive oil change and be suspended and sent around the engine at the next start up, that’s my theory and at the end of the day it’s what the manufacturer tells you to do, they tend to know best in my experience 🙂👍
Since it was the first service. How did you reset the maintenance “wrench”. How about warranty since it won’t be plugged into to get a proper diagnostic. Appreciate the video and thanks in advance. Cheers mate
Have to say they were a little upset when I brought the bike in to trade it in as I never had it plugged in with them. There is however ways to turn off the service light with a proper OBD 2 plug in tool in app. Hope this helps ride safe my friend keep the rubber side down!
I see a lot of different methods n the comments. I’ll add my two cents 😂 I have from time to time warmed the engine, drained the oil, and drained the oil from the filter. Filled the old filter with cheap new oil, reinstall the old filter with cheap new oil, fill the engine with cheap new oil, run the engine for a minute or two. Then do the oil change with new filter and quality oil. I did this on an older car, and motorcycle to flush out any stubborn metal debris. I suppose it wouldn’t hurt to do this on newer vehicles. Time consuming and a little more expensive but we love our machines. Especially motorcycles ! I would think if your motorcycle is in a warm garage you probably don’t have to warm the engine. The fact that we change the oil is significant.
Another great video. I really enjoy your videos. You are a good teacher also. I hope you are doing good sir. I was also wondering how is Wes doing? Haven’t seen him in a video in a while.
Wes is doing great! He moved to Utah and is retired. But you will see him in more videos as time goes by👍🏻 we were planning some more trips possibly in the future. Thanks again for the kind words and thanks for watching🇺🇸
@@ManCaveMayhem Thank you for replying sir. I’m glad Wes and you are doing good. I also wanted to say the Triumph is a really good looking bike. I’d love to have one one day in the future. Right now I have a 86 Honda Shadow VT1100c it’s a good riding bike.
I think common sense would dictate that heated oil will flow faster. Just leave a quart of your oil outside in 10/20 degree weather , then have another quart warmed up to operating temp, take a guess what’s gonna flow better. 🤔🙄 it’s not as simple as your 2 Cent theory.
Before I opened my Chevron Station in 1970, they sent me through 2 of their schools. They said the reason to warm the oil was because any metal particles would settle in the engine when cold and when warm are suspended in the hot oil and be removed with the oil. Cheers, Russ
That is a very good solid point. And you are probably right.👍🏻 Thanks for the input brother🇺🇸
Personally I always pre fill the oil filter before installing to cut down on the time any area has to run without full pressure. Those KN are brilliant with the bolt head at the bottom, my only worry on a bike that is going off roads is that the bolt head could catch a rock ledge and the bottom of the filter could get ripped off. By the time you found out your engine would be toast. I appreciate there is a bash plate in front but I could not count on that myself, all it takes is a dislodged rock.
Thanks for sharing ride safe my friend👍🏻
I have a 2020 1200 Scrambler and I don't warm my bike up either. Im in no rush and like you said, all the oil should be down in the sump and filter so I skip the heating part.
I’m probably wrong but it works for me. I live in a pretty warm climate anyway 👍🏻
Thanks for the video. How do you reset the service wrench?
It looks like you have to go to the dealership to have that done👎🏻 but I’m not sure.
Hi Larry, thanks for the effort and the share. Some good tips. Awesome stuff.
I doubt if this will change your mind. Old dog new tricks. I was taught the reason is not to heat up oil by bike standing/ idling. One should ride the crap out of it to mix all the carbon with oil. It's the carbon that went to lay in the nook and crannies. The carbon then drain with oil. Will you get it all. Nope. Will you get more than normal, most likely.
I would have to agree with you get it hot and drain it.
I change mine hot, after a ride. Let it drain overnight and finish it the next day 🍻
I think that’s probably the best way to do it👍🏻
Like yourself Larry, I am never in a hurry at oil change. I have even pulled the plug and let it set overnight. Keeps posted with likes and dislikes.
Thanks my friend. Ride safe👍🏻
Poke a hole in the filter to let it drain before removal and ride the bike b4 ya start to suspend particles that have settled to bottom of cases.
That sounds like a good way to do it👍🏻 ride safe my friend and thanks for the input.
Main thing I don't like is having to use corrugated, flexible oil fill tube. Keeping dust and dirt from collecting in the ridges is almost impossible. I store mine in a clean plastic bag but like a smooth funnel best since I can run a clean cloth through it before the oil goes in.
Great video thanks! Only thing I would do differently is to fill the new filter with oil so there’s less time to prime the oiling system. Looking forward to your trip, will you be vlogging any of it?
Yes I usually do fill the oil filter with oil and forgot to on this change. We will for sure be vlogging that trip👍🏻
@@ManCaveMayhem Awesome!
Based off your recommendations I ordered and received the Unit Garage pannier racks and I added the Atlas top cases and side cases and they are super sturdy. They hold a helmet in the left case and top case. For passenger comfort, they sell a 3” thick back pad for the top case to add some back support for a passenger.
@@Jmort93 Yeah they’re a little pricey but the quality is very good. Ride safe and hopefully they work out well for you👍🏻
I would run the engine prior to the change personally , debris (fine metal wear particles and carbon) that have settled out of the oil during days of standing end up sitting on the floor of the oil pan , these will become suspended in the oil again when the engine is run and then hopefully be drawn out with the oil as it drains, doing it your way could allow an ever increasing amount of debris to be left sitting in the pan at every consecutive oil change and be suspended and sent around the engine at the next start up, that’s my theory and at the end of the day it’s what the manufacturer tells you to do, they tend to know best in my experience 🙂👍
I would have to say you’re correct on that. Gets everything thats yucky stirred up.
Since it was the first service. How did you reset the maintenance “wrench”. How about warranty since it won’t be plugged into to get a proper diagnostic. Appreciate the video and thanks in advance. Cheers mate
Have to say they were a little upset when I brought the bike in to trade it in as I never had it plugged in with them. There is however ways to turn off the service light with a proper OBD 2 plug in tool in app. Hope this helps ride safe my friend keep the rubber side down!
I see a lot of different methods n the comments.
I’ll add my two cents 😂
I have from time to time warmed the engine, drained the oil, and drained the oil from the filter.
Filled the old filter with cheap new oil, reinstall the old filter with cheap new oil, fill the engine with cheap new oil, run the engine for a minute or two.
Then do the oil change with new filter and quality oil.
I did this on an older car, and motorcycle to flush out any stubborn metal debris.
I suppose it wouldn’t hurt to do this on newer vehicles.
Time consuming and a little more expensive but we love our machines.
Especially motorcycles !
I would think if your motorcycle is in a warm garage you probably don’t have to warm the engine. The fact that we change the oil is significant.
Another great video. I really enjoy your videos. You are a good teacher also. I hope you are doing good sir. I was also wondering how is Wes doing? Haven’t seen him in a video in a while.
Wes is doing great! He moved to Utah and is retired. But you will see him in more videos as time goes by👍🏻 we were planning some more trips possibly in the future. Thanks again for the kind words and thanks for watching🇺🇸
@@ManCaveMayhem Thank you for replying sir. I’m glad Wes and you are doing good. I also wanted to say the Triumph is a really good looking bike. I’d love to have one one day in the future. Right now I have a 86 Honda Shadow VT1100c it’s a good riding bike.
@@robertw31968 You can’t beat a Honda for reliability and just good riding characteristics.
Any tips on how to reset the service light?
You have to do it through the computer on the OBD 2 system.
Most sites say that the K&N 204-1 is NOT compatible with a 2020 Triumph Scrambler 1200 xe. What are your thoughts?? What should I use?
That’s a filter I used it seemed to work fine
did ya prefill the filter?
I usually do but I forgot on this oil change.
Where you got the panniers for the laugage?
A store called Unit Garage I believe they are in Italy! Hope this helps. Ride safe my friend.👍🏻
Are you serous that cold oil is thinner than hot oil haha
It isn’t? 🤣🤣
I think common sense would dictate that heated oil will flow faster.
Just leave a quart of your oil outside in 10/20 degree weather , then have another quart warmed up to operating temp, take a guess what’s gonna flow better. 🤔🙄 it’s not as simple as your 2 Cent theory.
Very true thanks for your two cents👍🏻
The epitome of loud Americans. 🔊
Loud for sure🇺🇸so sorry I offended you 👍🏻 ride safe friend.