UPDATED! How to install HAOS on an Intel NUC - EASY! | 5 minute fRYEday
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2023
- In this #5minutefRYEday episode, I cover how to install HAOS onto an SSD or SD card so that you can run HAOS on whatever x86 device (or other supported hardware using the correct image) you like - all without having to mess with making a bootable Ubuntu USB stick like all the rest of the methods out there!!
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I came from one of you other videos asking about Dual-Boot. I will definitely try this and make sure i set the boot in BIOS to target my HAOS drive
Please keep making videos!
Also works like a charm with normal SSD in older NUCs. I did try the other method first, but ran into all kinds of annoying stuff. Then decided to rip the now formatted and OS-less SSD out, put int in an old docking station I still had lying around and tried this method. Works as advertised,simply genius. Thanks!
Awesome, glad to hear you guys are finding this way to be more foolproof than the other way. After how simple this was (screwdriver fears aside - real or imagined), I almost feel bad for even making that other video! LOL
Thanks for watching!
Adding a whisky/whiskey review gets a like from me!
Thanks! I've got another #5minutefRYEday coming up next. Orphan Barrel Scarlet Shade! Thanks for watching!!
Great! Thanks for the easy setup! Watched both video's and nice to see the bios part.
You're most welcome. Thanks for watching!
Many, Many, Many Thanks!!!!!!😀😀😀
I have been running HAOS on a VM on an old Mac Air and this is soooooooooooooo much better. Looking forward to going through the rest of your videos.
Awesome! Glad to hear the video was useful.
Thanks for watching, and let me know what you think of the other videos! Ignore the intro on some of the early ones.. Hadn't quite found my footing with this channel just yet, it was originally going to cover lots of topics. But, the home assistant stuff was the only thing anyone watched, so I narrowed my focus and it took off from there. I may re-edit the old ones and re-upload them one of these days, but free time is so hard to come by... Lol
Thanks for watching!
That worked perfect! Thanks for making a dreaded task super simple and easy!
But now how do I get from the command prompt to the graphic user interface?
Literally LOLed at the shirt! Dude your videos are the best for me learning this HOAS stuff. You really do make the “smart stuff easy”.
Just wish you could help with everything else like pfsense and VLANs over a netgear switch. Just top notch vids Jeff…or is it Geoff?
It's Jeff, thanks for asking!
As for "everything else".. That's how this channel started. If you watch some of the early videos, I even talk about it. "cooking, boating, home repair" and I probably mentioned some other stuff. I had a bunch of cooking videos up on here, and some other stuff - but the only thing anybody watched was the smart home stuff, so I listened to my audience. Maybe if/when this channel really takes off I'll start another one called like "Jeff Helps" or something? Lol
Yeah, sorry man, I got nothing on pfsense or netgear.. All my home stuff is ubiquiti, and my professional experience is big expensive toys like Cisco and Juniper and Checkpoint and Palo Alto and similar...
Thank you so much for all the kind words, and thanks for watching!
Thanks Pal...I had a spare NUC lying around and I was considered moving my HA os from a VM to and actual NUC...loading on HA os worked great...thanks for the video...
You're most welcome, glad to hear it worked for you. Thanks for watching!
Oh Jeff, I have everything here. I wish I would have thought of this earlier. Great FRYEDAY.
It happens to the best of us, man. At least now you know an easier way in case you ever want to move to new hardware!
Happy fRYEday, and thanks for watching!!
Well that was easy. I followed your instructions, except I am using a Dell Optiplex 3050 which had a 2.5” SSD. I happened to have a Sata usb adapter and it worked perfectly. Home assistant is booted on my tiny little PC in about 6 minutes.
Now I will check your channel for info on getting started with Home Assistant. THANK YOU.
Oh…one more thing: I prefer Bourbon to Rye, and I was sipping some Woodford as Balena Etcher did its thing, and HA initialized itself.
So I am doubly happy this was as easy as it was.
Rye is a relatively recent discovery for me, my cabinet is currently MUCH more filled with bourbon than rye. Woodford Double Oaked is one of my go-tos. That said, I couldn't find a catchy way to use "bourbon", whereas fRYEday seemed to work rather well. I'd prefer to find a way to incorporate bourbon. Perhaps "Whiskey Wednesday" or something, but then there's not the alliteration of "Five minute fRYEday". If you have any ideas, I'm all ears!!
Glad to hear you got it working, and thanks for watching. I do have a video about the "7 things you should do as soon as you install", and while it's mostly correct still, it is a bit dated as far as versioning goes. A lot of the stuff has been moved around in the interface. I should make an updated version of that video. Add it to my list, I suppose.... LOL
Useful stuff. Really helped but please put the whiskey review at the end.
No can do, comrade. Thanks for watching!
After your prior HA install video, I used this approach and worked great. The only issue I ran into was I tried using the HAOS link in the Belena Etcher and it did not work. So, downloading the file and using the download with Etcher is the way to go.
Same. I also couldn't get it to install using the URL, which is why in the video I show to download the file ahead of time and then do flash from file. SO much better!
Thanks for watching!
I'm so happy about the shirt.
Lol thank you! I thought it was hilarious and couldn't resist.
Thanks for watching!
Is it important to change the BIOS in the same manner as your previous install video?
Yes, great catch! I think I forgot to mention that in this video.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the update; I have a NUC11 PH manufactured in August of 2022. After buying an external nvme usb device and successfully installing the HAos on the drive and subsequently installing the drive into the NUC, startup of the OS fails at "462620] input: HDA Nvidia HDMI/DP, pcm=7 as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00.0/0000:01:00.1/sound/card0/input4". I have no speakers connected using the Nvidia output. After plugging in portable speaker, it fails at a different point. I've been messing around with this for a month with the only success occuring when operating HA in a VM in windows 11...
Honestly, I've had NOTHING but issues with the NUC enthusiast line. I ranted about it in the blue iris video pretty good. In addition, HA doesn't need a GPU. I'd just get a barebones NUC like this one: amzn.to/45VdQJu add the drive you have and a stick of memory and you're off to the races.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks-I'll pass this NUC off to my wife who doesn't do much more than Outlook and web searches. I may steal her old desktop and try HA on that next.
@@user-zf8sx3el3cPlease do come back and let me know how it works out for you!!
Found a n100 alderlake mini pc 12gb ddr5 and 512gb nvme wifi 6 bt 5.2. It's around $160. Is this overkill for a HA os? Was looking at older thin clients but I'm thinking new pc more reliable.
Depends what you want to do with HA. It's cheap enough that, unless you're budget-constrained, does it really matter? However - a word of caution: be careful with off-brand mini pcs. The forums are rife with posts from people who bought an off-brand device and the network cards in them are not supported. That's why I chose to play it safe and go with the NUC. Plenty of other people already successfully got them working, I don't need to be a hero. Just had to find an easier way.
Thanks for watching!
I followed all the steps for your first video and everything worked up intel it came to the Web URL for HAOS image in etcher, so is that video completely outdated now? and the web URL dose not work at all? I copied your notes exactly and even removed the extra space as stated in your notes and when it tries to flash it says "something went wrong. if it is a compressed image, please check that the archive is not corrupted. the elevated process died unexpectedly"
do you have a updated Web URL for HAOS image?
or do I have to ignore everything I did and take out the ssd?
Following the steps in this video is much easier, as long as you're OK with removing the SSD to follow this method.
A LOT of people had difficulties with that other video. There's a link in the description on this video to the Home Assistant documentation page where you can get the URL for the current HAOS image.
The problem, so near as I can tell, is if for whatever reason the download speed does not keep up with the write speed of Etcher, it will run out of data during the flashing process, which causes an error. It's hit and miss at best. Some people had success by simply re-trying the steps from the other video, and some people were never able to get it to work.
If you do use the method shown in *this* video, make sure you get the correct type of SSD enclosure. NVMe and SATA SSDs require different enclosures.
I hope you're able to get it working. Please come back and let me know how you make out!
Thanks for watching!
@@fasthowto from what I can tell a lot of people had issues with terminal and the codes you used - the spacing. People who are new to terminal will do as many spaces as you have shown and a few are wrong. You didn't mention you have to open a new terminal window, a new one just showed up in your video but it does matter that you open a new one. The most simple fix in place of a URL would be to tell people to put the ISO file on a usb, and drag it onto ubuntu desktop and grab the file in echter. So I don't fully understand why you'd even have to pull the SSD out when one can just have the IOS file on another USB and drag and drop.
Also I'd note, SD cards and the amount of read and writes logs in HA kill SD cards fast. I'd never recommend an SD to anyone for HA
As the saying goes, "I can teach you, but I can't understand it for you." The spaces were explained in the description of that video.
I didn't say I recommend SD cards, but there are some people that use them.
People do many things I don't recommend, but that's why I have the day job I have. If everyone listened to professional advice, and read documentation, nothing would ever be broken. :)
Thanks for watching!
Does your process only with with SSD's? I've just tried your process on a 1TB 2.5" Seagate HDD and etcher just simply fails after about 10 seconds. Looking at disk management, the drive goes into unknown state. I've also tried restoring the image using the ubuntu method described in the HA documentation. It does not work either.
Side note: Maybe just inform people that they need to run Etcher as , without it, etcher will fail to write the image
I've not used anything other than SSDs for primary storage for quite a number of years now, so I can't comment on the HDD question. I don't recall having to RunAs Etcher, but I suppose that depends on your OS (10? 11?), whether or not UAC is enabled, and several other variables. I can't account for everything, but I'm glad you were able to figure it out. Thanks for watching!
Can you firm with this method to install HAOS on NUC it will detect usb Sky connect too? Also in your experience what's the best way to have HAOS for long term reliability? to install HAOS in this way or via proxmox?
I don't know what you're trying to ask with your first question. In regards to what type of install is best, I already made a long video on that topic. Check it out for compare/contrast of all the pros and cons. Thanks for watching!
Thanks, sorry! I meant to ask if Sky Connect via USB can be detected by Home Assistant using the installation method you've shown in the video.
Yes, anything that is plugged into the usb ports is visible since HAOS has direct control of the hardware.
If I already had Home Assitant installed on an SD card, can I then just use that with an SD reader, or do I need to do a fresh install for home assistant?
I don't understand your question. If you already have it installed on an SD card, you're already using it, right? So what is it you're trying to do? Be more specific, please.
I had previous home assistant installed on a raspberry pi on a sd card. Can I then use that same as card to install on nuc?
Ah. Yes, you can use the same card, but you'll have to reinstall. Pi and x86 are two different images, so if you just move the card from the pi to the nuc without reinstalling, it won't work.
But also, since I don't think I've seen a nuc out there with an SD card slot in it (maybe there's one somewhere?), you'd need an SD card reader.. Better to just buy a cheap SSD at that point. You can get a small one for the same $ as an SD card reader. Not to mention an SSD will be more reliable, long-term.
@@fasthowto thanks
@@montyscott5676 You're welcome! Thanks for watching!
That is the way I did it. Unfortunately the SSD could/can not be red in my Dell Wyse5070 with 16GB chip installed so I have to leave it outside in the little box and connected to one of the USB connections. That works fine. Before I found out for sure that the SSD disk was fine after the flash I unfortunately had to go through (un nessesarely) a number of restoring and reflashing of the SSD. I learned something there too.
I am now at the state where I am trying to get something to work under Home assistant. Being a purely hardware man and this is software I have my problems but being a pentioner I have time. I am scanning videos and articles and I will go through yours too. I am sure I will get there one day if I live long enough and as I have planned to be 110 years old before I die (have no guarantie though) I do have some time. My plan is to remote controll a lot on my farm.
Did you buy the correct type of drive? The docs for the 5070 call for SATA drives, not NVMe.
Hopefully you find lots of valuable content here on my channel. Thank you for sharing your story, and thanks for watching!
@@fasthowto No. One lives and learns. It is m.2 SSD as it should be but --- NVMe. I do have a SATA (only 125Gb) as well but I haven.t tried it. I may do it later. Thanks for the answer.
Nerditry and whiskey?? I'm in.
LOL Thank you! Been a minute since I've done a 5 minute fRYEday, but I'll be getting back to them soon. Thanks for watching!!
@@fasthowto For the past week or so I've had an issue with the ZHA Zigbee integration failing in Home Assistant (and I'm not the only one) and I needed to set up a second Home Assistant install on a Nuc for testing. This was exactly what I needed to get that set up with minimal fuss. I've actually downloaded this video to keep offline for when I need to do this again. So, thank you!
@@SeattleSandroAwesome, glad I was able to help. Comments like this really make this whole endeavor worthwhile. Thank you! : )
Definitely the easiest method for HAOS installs
Right? After making this video & running through it, I'm actually angry at myself for not doing it this way the first time. Lol
Thanks for watching!
I have a feeling at least half the people watching this already have a Ventoy USB setup....
Perhaps you can explain how that's relevant?
I like the shirt
Thanks!
WHY IS IT STUCK ON BOOT? TRIED 6 TIMES!!
The actual part of the video you came here for doesn't start until @3:34.
@@seanys you know what the entire world wants to see? That is extremely useful information. Do you offer that as a service, or do you just run around randomly dropping little nuggets of gold like a modern-day superhero?