"IOWA is the heaviest album ever made"
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
- Is Sipknot "Iowa" the heaviest album ever made? I react to your hot takes from Twitter!
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Bro you cant say Pantera didnt release an album as heavy as Slipknot's Iowa? Great Southern Trendkill was savagely heavy.
Iowa is unhinged, raw, dark, heavy and unapologetically primal.
You have yet to discover infant annihilator
@@dontdodrugs8538AMEN 🙏🏼
@@dontdodrugs8538no, you have yet to discover Damaar
@@surutaeyaisutsu9904 more recommendations please
@@dontdodrugs8538 To be honest, I don't find anything 'primal' about Infant Annihilator because it's very technical. To me a music is primal when it makes me want to punch the biggest dude in the pit. That's why I find hardcore related bands 'heavier' than any of those technical shenanigans.
I don’t know if Iowa is the heaviest, but it sure kept me awake on an 8-hour night drive home from Houston.
Try Meticolous Butchery
Heaviness is subjective. To a die hard brutal death metal fan it’s “meh”, but if I play it to my grandma it’ll blow her mind 🤷🏻♂️
Dude it just kept me awake driving overnight from Buffalo (I live 6 hours from there)
Wait, did u just have Iowa on an 8 hour repeat? Respect
@@LinktoSonic I went between that and Machine Head’s “The Burning Red” because screw fumbling with a CD wallet at night driving 80MPH (this was 2003 coming home from a Radiohead concert of all things).
Its crazy but Sweden is packed full of musical talent. Imminence, In Flames, Meshuggah, At The Gates, and Opeth to name a few.
They really have some badass music.
You don't need to argue for European metal, obviously its legacy is unquestionable, Finn is joking.
Abba is great
Great songwriters-yes.
Great taste in music-yes (see ABBA, The Hives, Refused etc).
Great taste in metal-no (see Sabaton, Yngwie Malmsteen, Arch Enemy, Hammerfall etc).
Jotun was the first In Flames song I heard. He was immediately hooked!
Them playing “The Heretic Anthem” on Conan has to be the hardest performance in Late Night Talk Show History.
8, 7, 6, 6, 6...
Was that the same episode that introduced the Slipnutz?
@@dustywaynemusic6297naw, they played Wait and Bleed a year before. The second time around, the cameras were even headbanging. The performance was so tight. It gives me chills every time I watch it.
I still have a 58 MB 320x240 MPG of that performance that I got on some early p2p filesharing network.
Slayer performed Rain in Blood on Fallon once
IOWA is definitely one of the most important albums in metal history. A timeless classic, to this day it doesn't sound outdated.
it was already redundant the day it was released.
@@Jerry_Galloyou make absolutely no sense. Go back in your box.
I didn’t realize people=shit hit number 3. That’s absolutely insane
Middle school and high school era was lit if you lived through it. It was the last time rock and metal were really mainstream.
Even bangers I went to school with liked Slipknot and soad. It was the last time rock and metal wasn't for grown ppl and niche white guys.
I wanna go back I loved the emo rap and south Florida wave but I miss instrumentation
Legendary tune. So fricking cathartic! Crazy Iowa hit #3 on Billboard with literal Death Metal instrumentals
lol the Richard cheese version is hilarious
Richie Queso is GOAted for some of his swing covers! @@robertsylvester3542
@@robertsylvester3542 Richie Queso the GOAT!
Mr. Mckenty discusses Iowa from 5:21-6:53
"The black album is in fact the best metal album ever made"
10 minutes later
"Why am I overhated"
1:44 coming from the dude that just some videos ago talked how he used to fart in front of girls. And his friend was like “dude wtf are you doing” and you kept doing it. You Finn. Are a European power rocker in the core
Learn from my mistakes 😇
I wanna see that clip now 😂
I think what makes Iowa so heavy is the pure hate, anger and pain that went into it. Like yeah something such as Infant Annihilator is heavier, but they don't actually feel and mean what they're saying.
It's the authenticity that makes Iowa such a powerful, heavy album
i fucking LOVE the little details like corey's intense breathing at the start of the heretic anthem, and its shit you understand if you've ever been extremely pissed off. you cant just manufacture an album like iowa or try and make it to fit an "aesthetic" or "style" its straight from the core authentic, these are actually fucked up people making music that channels their hatred. i love death metal, hardcore, deathcore but nothing hits quite as hard as iowa. plus the production really adds to the emotional weight.
its also the delivery of corey taylor. its cool hearing core bands pull off wicked pig squeals and low gutturals but corey's style and delivery is more relatable and feels like the way you scream in your car when you're pissed off, and thats heavier to me imo
Probably the closest thing to country being accepted by rock was when Johnny Cash covered Hurt.
Iowa is what every deathcore bands wants to do but can't
You're welcome. - From an Iowan
The best is when people add the “‘s” on a word that adds an extra syllable. I’m in Pennsylvania, and love when people say they’re “goin down to Sheetz’s”
Down South, people often say mine’s instead of mine.
Holy shit. I’m from PA too and it’s so prevalent. “Heading over to Costcos”
Kroger has always been Krogers
In PA as well. I always found "yous" instead of "you guys" amusing. "Wooder" instead of water. "Crick" instead of creek.
Ah yes, the " text-iss" people.
" Hey I just saw your text-iss"
' what do you mean I have tetanus?"
"Europe is humanities blooper reel" is an amazing hot take tbh. It's gonna take a while for I recover from that.
I'll admit to not being a huge fan of Slipknot (well, Corey Taylor specifically), but Disasterpiece from Iowa is incredible. It's catchy as fuck, heavy, and is just a well made song all around.
Plus the lyrics are absolutely unhinged.
True... lyrics too are sensational
I always considered Crowbars 2001's sonic excess in it's purest form, to be one of the heaviest albums ever made💁♂️
Odd Fellows Rest has to be in the top 3 heaviest for me. When I think heavy, I think low and slow.
@@strychenI've always kinda thought that to.
Crowbar is heavy on so many levels; musically, emotionally, lyrically.. love that band.. ❤️
@@RIB1998 yes Anon it does🫤
50 Cent In Da Club was hip hops glam metal phase.
I would argue your trial was rigged when you use Feuerschwanz as exhibit. 😂
exactly, its like In Flames, At the Gates, and Amon Amarth would have been way better examples
@@jaredwilkins4938 or Gojira, Opeth, Kreator, Spidergawd, etc. But I presume that Finn knows that Feuerschwanz is not the apex of European metal.
@@Schmiddelwutz2000The equivalent American metal exhibit would be Design the Skyline or Psychosexual.
Wait until you hear music they don't play on the radio 😱
Got em 😎 epic
It is not definitely the heaviest metal album, but a heavy one indeed.
I rarely agree with Finn’s takes but I always tune in. I think it’s nice to hear someone express their opinion and elevate their views without having to trash something else in the process or call people dumb.
As a Michigander I feel targeted by the Kroger’s comment
I used to live there, and I remember everyone saying Meijer's
> "There's plenty of albums heavier than Iowa"
> Names death metal lmao
Shihad's FVEY is heavier than Suffocation, and its not even "metal".
If there's an album that *sometimes* is as heavy as Iowa or heavier, it might be Evangelion by Behemoth, from which something like Daimonos might be heavier than many of the songs on Iowa, but is Evangelion heavier than Iowa? No, lol, no.
Iowa is the heaviest album ever created not because it has blast beats or extreme metal elements, it's the heaviest album ever created because it brings pain through its each facet and fiber.
As insane as IOWA is, the heaviest album I've ever heard was you will never be one of us by nails.
13:45 Absolutely. My cat would probably just die with me out of heartbreak.i love that cat as much as she loves me and we're bonded.
When i leave my parents house she sits outside my room and cries for me :(( constantly looking for where i went. We spent every minute of the day together usually, she'd cuddle with me under my blanket on top my chest with her head on the pillow and it was the best thing ever. I am that cats' whole world and shes most of mine.
Iowa is practically pop music compared to literally anything by Primitive Man
Corey's voice alone makes any slipknot song a prime contestant to any other heavy one. Its an instrument from hell
Taking Feuerschwanz and rammstein as an example for european metal is like taking Nickelback for american metal.
Metallica Black Album, an F1 car could pass at 233 mph playing it, and you would be able to say "That guy is listening to the Black Album" just by that amazing hi-hat sound (and overall drum sound)... best production ever... imho
W.A.P. was the last mainstream hip hop song that caught my attention, both in good way and bad way. Doja Cat maybe had some interesting ones, but not nearly as impactful and omnipresent as W.A.P.
Or IDK, was Old Town Road after or before W.A.P.? Idk about the chronology, but this was definitelly the last “era” of hip hop that was interesting to me, if nothing else, at least it was funny.
When I'm having any issues I'm come to Papa Finn for advice
Sorry to hear that 🤨. Good luck. 😂
Papa Finn is daddy!
Maybe a hot takeout I don't think Slipknot are that heavy. I don't consider speed to equal heavy.
The Killdozer band that inspired the grunge bands to go record with Butch Vig is heavier than anything Slipknot ever released.
But ultimately, my vote goes to doom bands like Monolord, Cough, and Windhand for heaviest.
About the criticism on Europe’s tastes: dear Americans, don’t you realize this is all dead music that stopped reflecting the times we live?
I’m talking about heavy music played with instruments.
Electronic music at the other side is quite only European. North America seems like child tastes about it, with all that EDM or fucking Skrillex and zero authentic events.
Have you even listened to serious electronic stuff? It’s even heavier than al this 90’s heavy music revival…
And it is something ALIVE, not the repetition of the same formulas already extra heard.
Unfortunately there are political/social obstacles that could allow the development of a proper electronic music scene, but at least try to discover something to listen to that tries to be innovative!
(First ever long comment ahah)
Bilmuri is so so good. I’ve been a big fan of Johnny Franck since his Attack Attack! days.
"Dogs are simps and its great!"😂😂😂
I absolutely agree about toy dogs!
The heaviest albums i can think of aren’t even metal albums. Filth by Swans and You Won’t Get What You Want by Daughters are the first that come to mind.
Is it really that surprising that people take your criticism personally when so much of your criticism of bands revolves around projecting negative personality traits onto their fans?
Behemoth - Evangelion is the heavest album imo.
Iowa is definitely the heaviest mainstream album of all time. would definitely be top 5 overall.
iowa may not be the ""heaviest"" album but it is certainly the most "angry sounding" album of all time imo. it perfectly sonically encapsulates that feeling of being so unbelievably mad that you just wanna scream for hours and punch a wall. like, for example, when you need to pace around the room because you're so angry you physically cannot sit still.
that feeling is what iowa SOUNDS like
Its not anything revolutionary but what Peelingflesh is doing is just satisfying to listen to. They seem to be trying to merge hip hop and slamming death metal at least to a degree. They arent the only ones doing this but none of the other bands sound as good.
American metal is so boring. Ok Manowar and Manilla Road are great but bands like Pantera or Slipknot are not metal. No dragons, no long hair, no historical battles means no metal.
I just want to throw in The Downward Spiral by Nine Inch Nails into the mix of heaviest albums.
The Great Southern Trendkill is the best heavy album ever
Came here to say this. Album fucked me up when I first heard it. One of the darkest, heaviest albums.
@@markshadows3667 I never listened to the album up until a few years ago. wtf did I miss the last 25 years 🤦🏽♂️
Ooohhh, true a smoky indeed! Great, angry album. Although I still laugh when listening to TGST/first song when it's just angry angry as fuck then inexplicably goes into an extended blues boogie jam to end the song😂 I love it but!
Strapping Young Lad are the best band to come out of Canada. City and Alien are probably both heavier than Iowa too
Reign in blood. Nuff said.
Every time you play that Trump - Kid Rock AMV as Metallica’s best song, I giggle
You can equate rap music these days as Reality Tv with music playing in the background.
Måsstaden Under Vatten makes Iowa sound like Jack Johnson
Hell come to Oklahoma, the yall-ternative stuff is big in southern states lol. We listen to Knocked Loose and Koe Wetzel over here 😂
If this isn’t desperate clickbait garbage… than you can call me Dave Mustaine
There really was before the black album and after the black album regarding how metal music was perceived. Prior to this album only stoners and misfits listened to metal.
Yep
the word "yallternative" made my stomach turn.
I'd love to know your thoughts on hyphy.
Mac Dre, The Pack, Team Knoc, Keak da Sneak, The Jacka, Mistah FAB, etc.
You wanna talk about rap as a cultural movement... there is no genre of rap more innovative or influential to a regional culture than hyphy.
It was cool! Also loved jerkin
Canadians are fiercely protective of their own when it comes to a musical artists. It's actually a law in Canada that Canadian radio stations have to play x amount of Canadian musical artists during their broadcasts. Not quite sure what that number is but it exists
Favorite Danzig story- I'm at a Danzig show when their tour bus pulls up. Danzig had them rope off the area like they were the freakin Beatles. Mind you, they are playing an 800 capacity venue and probably about 600 were there to see Hatebreed. That little munchkin is walking down the stairs to get out of the bus and falls flat on his face in front of hundreds. There is a roar of laughter from the crowd. He got up and kept walking like nothing happen, with his mean mug and muscles showing. And a bloody lip to boot. But you could tell that he was embarrassed and his ego took a hit being laughed at.
The only club show I've ever been to that wouldn't allow cell phones with cameras inside, and this was when iphones were still relatively new
@@dustywaynemusic6297 HAHA wow. Glen didn't want any freebie pics out there that wouldn't profit him.
Far Beyond Driven is waaayyyy heavier than Iowa.
Korn debut album is just important as the black album facts
I like cats better because they make you work for it
I love you Finn but that country song was ass
What you said about the end, about emotional regulation and how we let music or sport be our identity, is super important for people to hear.
I'm a father of two, both grown, and one of the things I really wanted to teach them was resiliency. You're gonna meet people you hate, for whatever dumb reason, or they have opinions you don't like, we all have someone like that in our lives. the point is, what are you going to do about it? Be resilient, be able to move on.
I love your channel because you are very opinionated and entertaining. Some of the stuff you say, if I don't agree, I just toss it aside. That's how it should be about everything. Take the stuff you like, leave the stuff you don't. It's pretty simple to build resiliency.
Well said
None of you have ever heard Cryptopsy's None so Vile, and it shows
An interesting point about Canadian music: their government has told radio stations and television broadcasts to prioritize artists from their own country. Canadians talk about canadian music because it’s what the media is being forced to promote and everyone there is being exposed to it.
Amon Amarth
In Flames
Dark Tranquillity
At the Gates
Nightrage
Nightwish
Amaranthe
Entombed
The Halo Effect
Epica
Arch Enemy
Scar Symmetry
Solution .45
Miseration
Insomnium
Kalmah
Opeth
European metal is fantastic.
I have never heard an angrier album than Iowa. Corey Taylor's childhood was sickening. He was subjected to sexual and physical abuse, his "friends" threw him into a dumpster when he overdosed and they thought he died, and he was relentlessly bullied.
All the pain, hatred, and misery he felt was poured into every song on that album. There's "heavier" albums (like Meshuggah's Koloss has heavier sounding instruments) or more punishing albums like with any grindcore or death metal album, but I truly believe this is the heaviest, angriest album ever made.
I will say that Sending you strength by the band Means is one of the best hardcore albums out of Canadia...
How dare Finn bag on small dogs! I’m unsubscribing!
Bro, I made a comment on the danframpton video about you, not even really defending, just stating something you had said yourself about the Punk Rock MBA channel, and people are losing their shit. I lose a little more faith in humanity every day.
Insane
rap has been in the glam metal era for years now! much like hair bands - it used to have HUGE songs that fucking dominated the charts! now it's about lifestyles and soon-to-be legacy artists. it was more than just glam but everything was very 80s anyways. loved the trap era quite a bit but it's dying hardd rn and you can tell.
I just wanna say: Bleed from Within man.. They hit different. Great metalcore band
before I get past 0:00001, just wanna say, ACKKKSHUUALLLLY 😡😖😡😖😡😖😡 *adjusts glasses and scratches neckbeard dandruf*
Can’t wait to listen and see the comments to this one
I wouldnt say that all rock/metal fans hate country. I like both country and metal... Johnny Cash, Waylon Jennings, Dolly Parton, Reba, Garth Brooks. I also like some pop like Michael Jackson and Bruno Mars.
You gotta remember how much influence country had on grunge and rock in the 90s too.
Yeah, old school grandpa country is somewhat accepted by rock fans
THANK YOU FINN IVE SAID THIS SINCE 04 and yup i hate 97.2% country and only about 87% of rap
Iowa is absolutely the heaviest album of all time. Regardless of the current state of the band or whatever else has been made by anyone else, nothing will ever top the pure sincere rage and cathartic vitriol that is just bleeding out of that album. They somehow channeled ALL of the very intense negative emotions that they were feeling at the time into one dark cohesive portrait. It’s akin to witnessing an exorcism. Iowa is the GOAT. Full stop.
Also, Dogs are and will always be better. They have the moniker of “Man’s Best Friend” for a damn good reason. And it’s not even close.
No way it's heavier than pure Death Metal or Deathcore (2 awful genres) but def agreed when it comes to heaviest Nu Metal or Mainstream album.
Every Deathcore band has it beat, and Knocked Loose + Kublai Khan’s entire discography have it beat as well.
Give a listen to Dillinger Escape Plan’s Calculating Infinity
Heaviest in terms of how many notes they cram into it lol but ya, I think Master Of Puppets is def heavier.
Ive been on a Celtic Frost kick lately, and their first couple albums, esp Morbid Tales, was some seriously heavy shit! Sure, it was arguably a Motörhead/Venom ripoff but they took it to a much heavier level
How DARE you besmirch the good name of chihuahuas!!!! I"M SO ANGRY!!!!!
12:50 Nothing beats the experience of a Ragdoll Cat.
It's Cats>Dogs>>>Ragdoll Cats.
- Fluff
- Cute
- Purrs
- Knows no agresssion, will never hurt you.
- Loves you and can't live without you.
Peak animal. Whoever bred them should get a Nobel Peace prize. This cat will melt your heart and I don't care who you are.
The thing about Iowa is that the songs open with these super aggressive, actually good sounding death metal riffs and blast beats.....then just devolves into this shitty alternative rock BS with cringe inducing vocals. Ive tried getting into it but nah.
I would say Far Beyond Driven is the heaviest album I’ve ever heard. Then maybe IOWA. Although I think Slipknot ST is better
Nile - Amongst the Catacombs of Nephren-Ka
But you’re opinion about band-maid is wrong. While I’ll agree the video I seen you were critiquing was Thrill and it is a pretty basic song, but that was one of their first songs that made it big, they are a 10 year old band now and have gotten vastly superior and for me they have revitalized rock/hard rock.
hahaha! I can also specially select every shitty band from the USA! But seriously, Insomnium , Swallow The Sun,Evadne is better than any American band! and there are many such examples!
Canadian Music? Cryptopsy, Kataklysm, Archspire, AngelMaker,Despised Icon, Gorguts, Beyond Creation shall I keep going?
As a German I'm proud to say that we have no good bands*. Heaven Shall Burn on a good day maybe. Maybe.
German Thrash metal was amazing in the 80's but that's basically it.
Last major rap song was Hot in Herrreee from Nelly 20 years ago lololol
What you said about Rap is EXACTLY whats going on with radio friendly Country
Okay you're talking about rappers but you're talking about The Mainstream don't forget about. Run the jewels,jid, Danny brown, Benny the Butcher, Conway the machine, Freddy gibbs,j.cole, Joyner lucas,cordae, Isaiah Rashad, Vince staples, Currency,boldy james,big k.r.i.t, earth game, flatbush zombies,cozy, Joey badass,... And that's just to name a few
Far beyond driven didn't GO to number one... It PREMIERED at number 1. Only metal record to ever do that.
The biggest thing Europe has over american metal is that european metal bands still know how to be fun. American metal isn't. It's all so self serious and moody.
Sleep Token, Spiritbox, Bad Omens, all that stuff. No fun allowed, just seriousness and brooding. Boring and lame.
NAKE METAL FUN AGAIN!
The issue is... They never topped IOWA... It's been downhill ever since...
Haven't enjoyed this band since IOWA
I will say… Canadian prog techdeath is next level.
There are many german/european Bands. Check out Blind guardian (Germany), Heaven shall burn (Germany), Opeth (Sweden), Caliban (Germany) or Sabaton (Sweden) and don't fordert about the old Masters of british heavy metal...
Other than Iowa, the closest we got to having truly heavy metal go mainstream was Dimmu Borgir's In Sorte Diaboli. Topping at #43 in the US, it was also the first time since a-ha with "Take On Me" that a Norwegian band cracked the top 50 in the US. Otherwise, yes, Iowa is the heaviest album to go properly mainstream. Which is totally (sic). I'm pretty excited to see them on the 27th, NGL...
Black Album is not even Metallica’s best album, let alone THE best metal album of all time. It’s crazy to me that someone would rank the Black Album higher than Master of Puppets, Ride The Lightning, Kill ‘em All, And Justice For All, or even Death Magnetic.
Sure, the Black Album is Metallica’s most commercially successful album by a long shot, but that doesn’t mean it’s their BEST album.
Idk...huge slipknot fan here...but top bands im listening to at the moment are
Orbit Culture,Gojira,Parkway Drive,Slaughter to Prevail...none of which are american but really hoping an american metal band will pick up the torch so to say from slipknot,mudvayne,Pantera,etc...with the bloodlines maybe Vended will be that band.. lol
I disagree with the first hot take. You can cherry pick bad bands all day, fam, but you can't tell me with a straight face MGK, Psychosexual, and Six Feet Under are worth defending. Meshuggah, In Flames, Archspire, In Flames all came from Canada/Europe. I don't think dude had a hot take at all. He's right.
Not heaviest at all, since heavy is about groove too and headbang-ability. It is the most angry album I've ever heard, though. Like genuine hatred.
The term "Heavy" with regards to Metal is so completely subjective to each person. Personaly I don't find speed as what makes a song "heavy" to me, I don't find how "dark" as in Black Metal as whats "heavy to me" I don't find how psychotically angry and aggressive as in Death Metal as "Heavy". For me "heavy" is a combination of Riff, mix, guitar tone and feel. Korn has some of the "Heaviest" Riffs Ive heard to date combining all of those things IMO. Slaughter to Preveil have some fuckn awesome groove heavy stuff going on with the last few albums and the production absolutely complements that too. Cradle of Filth, specifically Nymphetamine, the chorus on that song IMO is heavy AF and exactly what I'm talking about with Korn who regularly do the same kind of 20Tonne of slow moving weight in the guitar tone and Riff.