@johntylerbrowning4331 Why does it require that he be "honest" ? He is likely playing a character, which a lot of people in media, musicians included are playing characters, we just give artists the benifit of the doubt that they are creating "art" rather they are characters creating a product.
I stopped watching him years ago cuz I thought his views were idk… vapid? Too focused on success and money instead of music. But I thought we’ll agree to disagree. I’m glad I stopped. So glad he’s out. He doesn’t need to ruin music for the rest of us.
Genuinely couldn't believe that he said he wasn't really into any of the music he made videos on and I still don't believe it. You're telling me there's not a single artist he likes that he's made a video on. I call complete bullshit he's hiding something.
@quietdoesmusic4029 I'm sure he had interest at some point and he is into some of the bands he talked about but a lot of the bands he talked about he's said he doesn't like such as SOAD and Deftones
Well to me Finn seems like a guy that listens to mostly Hardcore, some Death Metal, some 90’s Pop Punk, some old Metalcore stuff, and was liking some of the modern Trap/Emo Rap stuff. Like Finn’s playlist probably goes from Blink 182 to Black Flag to some obscure Death Metal stuff to Converge to Suicideboys. I would assume that’s probably Finn’s playlist But he was mostly making videos on Nu-Metal, Butt Rock/Post Grunge, 90’s Grunge, Alternative Rock, and 2000’s Emo. Because those videos would get him the most views, as Finn was mostly about the money, every time he talked about Hardcore or the modern Trap stuff he wouldn’t get many views, but every time he talked about Limp Bizkit, Nickelback or Paramore he would get more views, so Finn catered to the Nostalgic Millennials wanting you hear about the stuff they listen to. Finn just wanted the money and views, but yet I feel deep down it wasn’t pleasing him.
I never cared for his videos, he always seemed like he was going through the motions. Dude was like luke warm cup of water in terms of energy. No idea how he got so popular.
@@90s267 Finn is far from the worst youtuber but it's not too different from most other slop channels; baity, pandering, and acts like he's some sort of authority on music
@@90s267him not being popular is irrelevant to his viewpoint and opinion. Odhomminem attacks are used when one does not know how to create a logical argument yet disagrees with the viewpoint.
I had never heard of this dude before but I'm damn glad you're speaking up now. It's not gatekeeping to say people who make videos on a topic should actually care about that topic.
People who like prog and metal are all virginal elitists. Rock died in the 90’s but trap music will live forever.” “What makes you say that?” “Idk, I don’t like music. I read it on Wikipedia. Now shut up and pay me.” -The Punk Rock PMS’s career in a nutshell
He got it right now and then but I knew he wasn’t as smart as he thought when he did that video about prog and kept showing footage of, of all artists. . . . Yngwie.
I wouldn't go so far as to call him a poser, I think he just aged out of the scene, he was genuinely passionate if you go back and watch his old videos, but I think he just got turned off when he tried to branch out and his audience revolted, hes stated than any video he made that wasnt about millenial guitar nostalgia, it bombed, that must suck. Couple of things on the video, constructive criticism, please dont take it the wrong way: 1) This isn't 2008 dude, get a mic, a stand, and a tripod, it'll cost you like seventy five bucks and you can jerry rig good lighting in your room. Da Vinci Resolve is free too, download it and watch some tutorials. 2) Coming from an aged punk myself, flinging 'poser' around and calling each other posers is just emblematic of how nonsense the whole idea of being a nonconformist is. Being a 'punk' or a 'metalhead' is about challenging norms and being yourself, not who has the most patches on their battle vest. You shouldn't have to avoid things because they're popular or take a vow of poverty to be part of the scene. If youre against the 'mainstream' just because its whats popular, youre just as beholden to trends as a 'normie.' Give up on the whole poser thing and spread the love of the music.
@staidenofanarchy I normally don't call anyone a poser but in this case I believe he is and I am thinking about investing in a tripod. I only just started RUclips 6 months ago I mostly do this as a hobby. But I appreciate the criticism thank you
@@johntylerbrowning4331 No worries man, I just found your channel and I'm excited to see your takes going forward. Honestly hit me up if you need any advice, I've done sound editing professionally in the past, I'm happy to lend any two cents.
The thing is with Finn is that he always advocated for like selling out and making money, he was a straight capitalist so it's not that surprising to me. I think he didn't really have his heart in it and got burnt out at some point.
Exactly! Anybody who said this guy was left leaning obviously never heard any of his political views on his second channel. Seriously when i started watching those videos I realized he was a straight up neolib and dipped
I had to jump to create a video on this as well. It is such an interesting situation. He goes from soft quitting to taking a huge dump on his reputation. It is the weirded thing. I def want to see that video about ur top concerts of the year.
Okay I am here for this... I really enjoyed his breakdowns of genre's he used to do years ago... then he became absolutely insufferable. Had no idea he "quit" pretty sad he only did it for the money, I get it, but it's sad. He worked the business model well... got a wife and a kid out of it.... hope she doesn't leave him
And youtube doesn't have guard rails in place to protect you. I think that he should give all that money.He made from the channel back because he made it under false pretenses.And that is a crime.
I got offput from him misrepresenting songs just on a single song line with what the song is about. I always hated him saying "what killed _ genre". Instead of talking about music he liked, he had to say all genres are dead. Like bro. Metal has NEVER been mainstream. Even in the 90's with Pantera. Sure. It was more popular in the 90's and 00's. But in terms of mainstream FM? Pantera gets played on 98Rock in Baltimore at around 2am. It's never been radio music, even IF KoRn, System and Bizkit got radio play way back when, while making radio friendly versions with the label so that they could gain popularity. Actual heavy stuff never gets FM. It's on Octane, Liquid Metal or in your Discover Weekly on Spotify in an algorithm based on your listening history. You'll never get mainstream media playing Bodom or Liiva/Gossow eras of Arch Enemy in their movies and shows. Only mainstream show that even played Bodom was Viva La Bam in the 00's. Metal draws the most crowds when it comes to festivals. It sells out concert halls depending on the city. And it's ALL through word of mouth. Finn truly never understood metal. Metal has ALWAYS had edge. And because of this unless you're making a clean version for FM, you're GOING TO go under the mainstream radar. It's sad. I'm going on 35 and been a metalhead for going on 20 years since buying See You On The Other Side from KoRn, 40 Seasons from Skid Row, Madhouse from Anthrax and a few Metallica CD's from Sony BMG, as well as Rob Zombie's Educated Horses album and I'm somehow more in touch with what metal is and how it's never been popular enough on FM to be able to be killed. Stupid sellout grifter looking to make money from edge while not understanding the edge.
I think most of his videos make it easy to sus out he was into a lot of the stuff then it fell off for him. Now he is cashing into all he knew from it.
Him saying "I don't care about music" is akin to "well, I didn't want to go on a date with you anyway!"
@@RTheWalkerOfGreenB Nailed it
What if no longer cares about music anymore though?
@@hossbonaventure_ceo6693 Which would be fine if he was honest in the first place as it's been going on for awhile
@johntylerbrowning4331 Why does it require that he be "honest" ? He is likely playing a character, which a lot of people in media, musicians included are playing characters, we just give artists the benifit of the doubt that they are creating "art" rather they are characters creating a product.
@hossbonaventure_ceo6693 you do have a point
I stopped watching him years ago cuz I thought his views were idk… vapid? Too focused on success and money instead of music. But I thought we’ll agree to disagree. I’m glad I stopped. So glad he’s out. He doesn’t need to ruin music for the rest of us.
@@DavidJacobo Amen
Genuinely couldn't believe that he said he wasn't really into any of the music he made videos on and I still don't believe it. You're telling me there's not a single artist he likes that he's made a video on. I call complete bullshit he's hiding something.
@quietdoesmusic4029 I'm sure he had interest at some point and he is into some of the bands he talked about but a lot of the bands he talked about he's said he doesn't like such as SOAD and Deftones
Sounded like "sour grapes" to me.
probably his teen girlfriend turned wife situation
Well to me Finn seems like a guy that listens to mostly Hardcore, some Death Metal, some 90’s Pop Punk, some old Metalcore stuff, and was liking some of the modern Trap/Emo Rap stuff.
Like Finn’s playlist probably goes from Blink 182 to Black Flag to some obscure Death Metal stuff to Converge to Suicideboys.
I would assume that’s probably Finn’s playlist
But he was mostly making videos on Nu-Metal, Butt Rock/Post Grunge, 90’s Grunge, Alternative Rock, and 2000’s Emo.
Because those videos would get him the most views, as Finn was mostly about the money, every time he talked about Hardcore or the modern Trap stuff he wouldn’t get many views, but every time he talked about Limp Bizkit, Nickelback or Paramore he would get more views, so Finn catered to the Nostalgic Millennials wanting you hear about the stuff they listen to.
Finn just wanted the money and views, but yet I feel deep down it wasn’t pleasing him.
@NuMetalfan1996 Exactly
I never cared for his videos, he always seemed like he was going through the motions. Dude was like luke warm cup of water in terms of energy. No idea how he got so popular.
Interesting take considering you aren’t nearly as popular. People like him 🤷♂️ make your own videos and see if people feel the same about you
@@90s267 Finn is far from the worst youtuber but it's not too different from most other slop channels; baity, pandering, and acts like he's some sort of authority on music
@@90s267 We do make our own videos, friend! We're a gaming channel. You don't need to be a world class chef to know when someone's overcooked a steak.
@@90s267him not being popular is irrelevant to his viewpoint and opinion. Odhomminem attacks are used when one does not know how to create a logical argument yet disagrees with the viewpoint.
I had never heard of this dude before but I'm damn glad you're speaking up now. It's not gatekeeping to say people who make videos on a topic should actually care about that topic.
@@HonkeyKongLive Exactly
People who like prog and metal are all virginal elitists. Rock died in the 90’s but trap music will live forever.”
“What makes you say that?”
“Idk, I don’t like music. I read it on Wikipedia. Now shut up and pay me.”
-The Punk Rock PMS’s career in a nutshell
@@harvesterofstorms4932 Exactly
He got it right now and then but I knew he wasn’t as smart as he thought when he did that video about prog and kept showing footage of, of all artists. . . . Yngwie.
@harvesterofstorms4932 I did not notice that....fucking moron
I wouldn't go so far as to call him a poser, I think he just aged out of the scene, he was genuinely passionate if you go back and watch his old videos, but I think he just got turned off when he tried to branch out and his audience revolted, hes stated than any video he made that wasnt about millenial guitar nostalgia, it bombed, that must suck.
Couple of things on the video, constructive criticism, please dont take it the wrong way:
1) This isn't 2008 dude, get a mic, a stand, and a tripod, it'll cost you like seventy five bucks and you can jerry rig good lighting in your room. Da Vinci Resolve is free too, download it and watch some tutorials.
2) Coming from an aged punk myself, flinging 'poser' around and calling each other posers is just emblematic of how nonsense the whole idea of being a nonconformist is. Being a 'punk' or a 'metalhead' is about challenging norms and being yourself, not who has the most patches on their battle vest. You shouldn't have to avoid things because they're popular or take a vow of poverty to be part of the scene. If youre against the 'mainstream' just because its whats popular, youre just as beholden to trends as a 'normie.' Give up on the whole poser thing and spread the love of the music.
@staidenofanarchy I normally don't call anyone a poser but in this case I believe he is and I am thinking about investing in a tripod. I only just started RUclips 6 months ago I mostly do this as a hobby. But I appreciate the criticism thank you
@@johntylerbrowning4331 No worries man, I just found your channel and I'm excited to see your takes going forward. Honestly hit me up if you need any advice, I've done sound editing professionally in the past, I'm happy to lend any two cents.
@@staidenofanarchy Thanks for the feedback
I honestly wished I stopped watching him 2 years ago
@@EncoreASMR Same
Think his grooming of high school girls had nothing to do with this? Deflection!
@@Lammo666 i never even mentioned this
He groomed his wife when he was 30 and she was under 18
He did? What happened?
@Kazuma_kiryu311 Allegedly they started talking when Finn was in his 30s and the girl was 17
@@johntylerbrowning4331 I didn't know that, thank you for letting me know
The thing is with Finn is that he always advocated for like selling out and making money, he was a straight capitalist so it's not that surprising to me. I think he didn't really have his heart in it and got burnt out at some point.
@@freal That could definitely be the case
Finn always been phony but there’s nothing wrong with making money doing what you love.
@Ghoulikmusik Exactly i just hate people who have no passion and only do it for money
Exactly! Anybody who said this guy was left leaning obviously never heard any of his political views on his second channel. Seriously when i started watching those videos I realized he was a straight up neolib and dipped
@PretzelBoi726 why does his political leanings have anything to do with his music taste? He could be far Right and like a leftist bands music.
If I sell a product on ebay and I am dishonest about the item i'm selling i'm gonna lose money. Doesn't seem to happen on youtube when you lie.
@@fkat1666 Ikr like double standards
“poser” with a temu anarchy flag on your window (dont say im wrong you can google it)🤣
@wormfvcker Look I've had that for years cut me some slack
@ well dont dish out if you cant take some brotha
How does an temu anarchy flag make you a poser? @wormfvcker
I had to jump to create a video on this as well. It is such an interesting situation. He goes from soft quitting to taking a huge dump on his reputation. It is the weirded thing. I def want to see that video about ur top concerts of the year.
@ThePeachGirlDiaries I just uploaded the top concerts video today if you wanna check it out
hes not a "poser" lmao spazz literally wrote songs about him
Like you’d expect some redditor with a Walmart anarchy flag in his goon dungeon to know what he’s talking about 😂
Okay I am here for this... I really enjoyed his breakdowns of genre's he used to do years ago... then he became absolutely insufferable. Had no idea he "quit"
pretty sad he only did it for the money, I get it, but it's sad. He worked the business model well... got a wife and a kid out of it.... hope she doesn't leave him
@raymond_sycamore Yeah let's hope that doesn't happen at least
And youtube doesn't have guard rails in place to protect you. I think that he should give all that money.He made from the channel back because he made it under false pretenses.And that is a crime.
@fkat1666 Unfortunately that's not the world we live in
Finn is just saying that because he’s sick of stupid people hating on him all the time.
This has been a big shock for me
Downfall? He did his thing, achieved his goals and peaced out.
That's actual grown folks stuff, not a "downfall" lmao.
Clickbait
Word!
Finn McMoron
@@Jasonv078 Finn Mcgrifter
@johntylerbrowning4331 What is a Grifter?
@Jasonv078 someone who panders to an audience for money
Damn i would have never expected that tbh
@emmakara8907 Yep he's fake
Him trying to talk about death metal was just absolutely pathetic. He doesn’t know Jack shit about music.
@@sethputnamsghost Ikr
It's a far fall from Finn to this guy
@@bisaillion Ikr
I got offput from him misrepresenting songs just on a single song line with what the song is about. I always hated him saying "what killed _ genre". Instead of talking about music he liked, he had to say all genres are dead. Like bro. Metal has NEVER been mainstream. Even in the 90's with Pantera. Sure. It was more popular in the 90's and 00's. But in terms of mainstream FM? Pantera gets played on 98Rock in Baltimore at around 2am. It's never been radio music, even IF KoRn, System and Bizkit got radio play way back when, while making radio friendly versions with the label so that they could gain popularity. Actual heavy stuff never gets FM. It's on Octane, Liquid Metal or in your Discover Weekly on Spotify in an algorithm based on your listening history. You'll never get mainstream media playing Bodom or Liiva/Gossow eras of Arch Enemy in their movies and shows. Only mainstream show that even played Bodom was Viva La Bam in the 00's. Metal draws the most crowds when it comes to festivals. It sells out concert halls depending on the city. And it's ALL through word of mouth. Finn truly never understood metal. Metal has ALWAYS had edge. And because of this unless you're making a clean version for FM, you're GOING TO go under the mainstream radar. It's sad. I'm going on 35 and been a metalhead for going on 20 years since buying See You On The Other Side from KoRn, 40 Seasons from Skid Row, Madhouse from Anthrax and a few Metallica CD's from Sony BMG, as well as Rob Zombie's Educated Horses album and I'm somehow more in touch with what metal is and how it's never been popular enough on FM to be able to be killed. Stupid sellout grifter looking to make money from edge while not understanding the edge.
@V8-69RebelWitch Yeah it's always been niche
Well... I haven't seen how he said these words (context matters), but it seems like he has made enough money to blow up his fanbase & move on.
He sucks im so pissed that I wasted my time watching his trash channel. I've never unsubscribed so fast
@@drewskkiiii Same
Sameeee
He's a ripoff jipoff poser sellout
@@Hubert69 Agreed
He seemed genuine
@TheDominicKellmanPodcast ikr but nope
@ I don’t believe what he’s saying I think he’s going through a rough time or something
@TheDominicKellmanPodcast Who knows 🤷♂️
And Where's the Downfall of Finn's? He fullfilled his goals, He made the ammount of money he wanted. The Dude is a Genius Troll But not a Poser
Yall styled like how we grew up is fvcking hilarious
Bro get your Stuff together. There's a lot going on your wall. That's my advice.
lol did he lose his chic to someone in a band or something🤣
I think most of his videos make it easy to sus out he was into a lot of the stuff then it fell off for him. Now he is cashing into all he knew from it.
@@katlynklassen809 Oh for sure
Wall of long hair. Zero women.🤔
@@WrestleKrysti 😂😂😂 keep trolling buddy