Yep! After Vince left Tony can’t keep up with HHH and WWE. The company is now a failure and it all started after Cody Rhodes left and it got worse when they released the All In footage
@@themexicanwolverine You mean about to debut on MAX next month ? On their way to sell their first US Stadium show ? Don't believe everything that your Twitter echo chamber tells you.
@@FranklinDBluth see living in your own delusion is good but you can't change the fact how Bucks made the tag team division relevant and Hangman helped cm junk getting thrown out of company also best feud & heel of the year in 2024 too.
@josecarlosramolete6109 True, but I mean Aew will NEVER reach that level of threat WCW had. WCW was beating WWFs ratings, they were beating their main show in viewers for 83 straight weeks.
Let's be real, they HAD the opportunity at their first year due to how hot and fresh they were (and Vince was still on his ultra senile mode), but Tony didn't capitalize it and instead he was slowly changing it into his personalized collect-all-wrestlers toy box and that was pretty much the end of the opportunity. Unlike his dad, Tony, unfortunately, isn't a really good businessman even when there's a gold mine standing in front of him.
Dave Meltzer is just a loser that can't get a job in mainstream wrestling company that only can do BS on the internet and worship by another big bunch of internet losers.
Sorry that is not for the "general audience", bro Not everything produced on TV ever has to appeal to the "general audience", pipe down the entitlement and let fans enjoy what they want to enjoy.
Cody Rhodes too had the biggest & most important role in the overall and successful organization of ALL IN, by both, financially and in terms of promoting it to the masses and fetching in so many great wrestlers. He's the one who revolutionized the wrestling in the latter half of last decade. Today, he is the biggest name in the world of pro wrestling.
Exactly. He was who lead the organization of the first All In, Bucks were like his EVPs in it-(something they might have become bitter about), TK joined after the PPV.
@@ricardoman8018 jade Cargill is the worst wrestler ever! Even worse than Becky cringe & Seth Rollins imagine supporting her lmao and cm punk buried himself in AEW 💯
AEW needs storyline continuity, and they need to recognize and display their top stars who have previously won the world championship which are Chris Jericho, Adam Page, Jon Moxley, MJF, Samoa Joe and Swerve Strickland. Those are AEWs' top stars based on the decision of them being former world Champs in AEW and still being active. Tony Khan needs to keep it simple and not have complex storylines. Wrestling is simple. Everyone wants the belt to potentially create a lasting legacy. For the future stars they should have to go through those six to become a main eventer within AEW. Regardless of if they are an Ex wwe star or indy, they need to go through those six to be classified as a maineventer within AEW.
@@kevinkthedj its not contructive when it completely misses the point and only puts the wwe fanboy fanboy of view, we dont want to be like wwe, if they need to change its stop hiring wwe fails and be more like new japan, aew exists because of dumb wwe storylines that make zero sense and a portion of the audience actually want wrestling,
@@Mintycomenter6000 This.... surprisingly makes good sense. Especially that "Wrestling is simple" part. Perfection. Wrestling doesn't need to be the wannabe MCU, it doesn't have to pretend to be Emmy Award material.. *Wrestling Is Simple*
@@Mintycomenter6000 This.... surprisingly makes good sense. Especially that "Wrestling is simple" part. Perfection. Wrestling doesn't need to be the wannabe MCU, it doesn't have to pretend to be Emmy Award material.. *Wrestling Is Simple*
For sure. They need to hire a creative team already to create good storylines. Wrestling is more than what goes on in the ring and AEW needs to understand that if they want to grow. Or in this case: survive.
Things that made me personally stopped watching -Lost focus with roster. Everything felt interconnected early on -Too many belts. Why is there a continental title and an international title? -Dream matches for the sake of dream matches -Jericho. Don't hate him but some time off would be nice -Women's division is the worst it's ever been -Too much use of blood. It loses it's impact when you see it on every show -This one is a bit niche but getting rid of AEW Dark shows, we literally got 2 free shows weekly and got to see some talent grow like The Acclaimed I hope it bounces back, AEW needs to exist so that other companies stay on their feets
i have tried numerous times to get into aew. every time they had some random wrestler just show up and is now in the mix of an angle. then excalibur or schivone expects me as a fan to be knowledgeable of the ongoings of the Santa Fe indie scene. im out.
You're only making an excuse, bro. You're an adult (at least I do hope), you're more than capable of catching up by yourself, don't expect the show to hold your hand or feed you like a baby 🍼
@@YourProfessional-Gachagamer he’s not wrong though. How can you expect to attract a newer target audience and treat them like they’re just supposed to know automatically who the wrestlers are? That’s why they’ll always be a small wrestling promotion because it only targets a certain audience.
there are three pivotal moments which killed aew's momentum. cm punk's brawl out presser-he showed how the sausage was made. he showed there was no leadership. the leadership that was in place were indie jag offs who only had a indie mindset and only wanted to play with their friends. cody rhodes' departure-he co-founded aew. he promised to take wrestling in a new direction. he wanted to revolutionize the entire industry. he was mr.aew. HE LEFT!!! vince's ouster- the main drawing power of aew was it wasnt vince's stale, out of touch, poop joked filled, and very inconsistent wwe. Well that guy was given the boot. there is nothing aew can rebel against as the big bad boogy man was shown the door.
Completely agree, just couple Vince's ousting with Papa H taking control of creative. While he hasn't been perfect, for the most part, he's had some amazing stories and booking. He really exposed how out of touch Vince was and just how much Vince mishandled stories, characters and matches etc etc. Fans were tired of the ridiculous and whack stories and how their favorite wrestlers were booked. Triple H has completely turned that all the way around.
Back when WWE and WCW were rivals, WWE had to think of something new to stay ahead of the competition And so, the Attitude Era came about. AEW has to think of something never been seen in the wrestling world to be noticed. They’re literally competing with a billion-dollar industry
The real reason why Attitude Era was inaugurated it was because WWE was able to see a LOOPHOLE on WCW: NWO storyline. NWO storyline got many WCW fans sick and tired of the same faction storyline over and over again. The straw that broke the camel's back was Sting joining NWO Wolfpac (red and black faction).
Disagree about the roster. They literally have a best roster in any wrestling promotion. They just suck at creating new storyline (from past 2 years atleast)
I strongly criticize Tony's booking but I don't think that they have a bad roster. IMO AEW has a lot of the best wrestlers under contract. Tony just has no idea what to do with them. RoH for example is filled with great talent who are breaking their bodies in front of no audience.
@@कृतार्थयादव and then you look at their ratings. Oh sorry, we only can focus on AEW's, right ? We never talk about WWE really not growing as much as you all pretend it is...
Nah, he also watched NJPW, All Japan, and various territories that were available through tape trading. I disagree with the limitations you placed on his "research", but I'm stealing the nickname. It's perfect.
I think it can be a competitor again but Tony needs to hire actual creative/executive teams and stop treating the promotion like it’s a toy and be a leader.
The fact Punk was willing to put his personal feelings aside and work with the Elite says a lot. Especially since they declined. It shows who put the product and good of the company before themselves and who didn't. Look at how great it has been with Punk in WWE. He has been a veteran and mentor for a lot of NXT talent and is apparently a model citizen backstage. The Elite put the Elite before AEW and they always have.
It amazed me watching Survivor Series and the following Raw that the way Punk was booked was a masterclass of what AEW could have done with him and the Elite. Money was there to be made and the Bucks blew it all away for their own petty egos.
Here is what AEW needs to do: Take the book from Tony Khan. Remove any executive status from any active wrestlers backstage. Rehire CM Punks ex best friend CM Punk
A lot of their feuds are one-and-done. Literally after having a championship on a PPV, each competitor move on to something new. They're not letting their shit breathe.
I can't believe AEW still havent done a brand split. Their roster is way too big and they have 2 one hour shows nobody cares about in Rampage and Collision. Combine those 2 shows into one show with an official brand split with its own champions and storylines.
I would argue that most of the problems caused by the Elite where simply just Matt and Nick + Adam Page talking shit. I really don't believe Kenny is likely to do any of that stuff, besides he was mostly injured and out during most of the drama after the All Out Brawl.
They tried putting Toni Storms return match against the whole of Saturday Nights Main Event. Toni was on top of the fucking globe, but in her absence everyone saw just how god awful Tony is at booking and checked out. Despite all the ex-WWE guys he’s been buying up, people aren’t interested because the audience knows they’ll never hit the highs they should if they aren’t friends with Hogan and the rest of the NWO- I mean The Young Bucks and The Elite. Toni like MJF and Swerve Strickland should be instant ratings but are the golden sails on a sinking ship
@@HighWoody No one was poached. WWE is many wrestlers' goal. Everyone knows Jordyn Grace will end up in WWE. It gave TNA some much needed exposure and for the fans, matches they never would have seen otherwise. It was far from a mistake.
Too many storylines that stall out, and too many things like the Young Bucks heel authority gimmick look like they came from early 2010s WWE. Also with all of the backstage attacks hospitalization, literal robbery, arson and murder fakeout you train the audience not to really pay attention to everything because "it's just a wrestling angle" and you can't suspend disbelief.
One problem i have notice with aew is that when a wrestler is getting a push we dont see them again for weeks on end like hook and certain storylines just get dropped and we never hear it again like the adam cole turning heel and mjf turning face. They dont know how to make new stars
As per Undertaker said at Smackdown vs RAW 2007 season mode, *"You got no one to blame but yourself"* + as per Snitsky said during his days on WWE, "It Wasn't My Fault"* because it's mostly Tony's own fault when he knows that he's the one who need to blame when his Wrestling Promotions goes bankruptcy. It's suck for them when all of them realise that AEW Dynamite constantly being beaten by WWE's Development Brands in terms of everything
wasn't that the "if you insist on making this mistake, then your grieving family will have no one else to blame but you when the inevetable occurs" segment?
@ YES EXACTLY BUT FROM OCTOBER 1996 UNTIL DECEMBER 2024 I FAILED MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY BUT FROM JANUARY 2025 ONWARDS FOR THE FIRST AND LAST TIME I WILL DRASTICALLY CHANGE MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY AND YOU CAN BELIEVE OR NOT RESPECT MY OPINIONS OR NOT FAIR ENOUGH. NOW WORDS FLIES AND FACTS STAYS GOODBYE.
Timeout Kenny did a interview some months back and said him and punk been on good terms and was down to do a storyline but it was the bucks and hangman that didn't
Pros: - Solid roster Cons: - Inconsistent storylines/no pay off - Sporadic appearances by wrestlers. Can't build a Stone Cold Steve Austin if they only show up every other week. - PPV cost - Too much creative freedom. It's similar to having a movie with a lineup of A-list actors and a very loose storyline that's mostly dependent on improv. You might see a wide range of acting ability, but it's not going to make sense in the overall scheme of things. - TK needs to stop pulling McMahon moves. If AEW isn't going to use a wrestler, and that wrestler wants to leave, let them go. It's obviously bad for the wrestlers, but it's also bad for the industry at large. Wasting someone's potential because you're petty isn't a good look. - Too many belts. Scarcity provides value. Future improvements: - Cheaper PPVs - HBO Max deal - The return of Kenny Omega
After Cody Rhodes left that was a huge sign AEW was headed towards its downfall. Once CM Punk came back to WWE and exposed AEW that’s when things completely fell apart. AEW will ever recover from the All In backstage footage. Tony should’ve just ignored CM Punk when he did that interview but he decided to act like a child and cry about it saying “my life was in danger”
Wow, killing a program that is battling a WWE that has a multi-million dollar company. Also, so-called news outlets like yourself are trying to only highlight negative news. Don't forget an unprofessional CM Punk. Also, people like Konan and Eric are always underming AEW. Konan coming out and saying he advised Penta not to resign with AEW. Penta totally forgetting that it was AEW who took a chance on him and his ungrateful brother
Hating on AEW is "cool", you see ? These people never wanted an alternative, they just wanted WWE to "become good" again even though they were saying that it was good back when they were competing. New toy syndrome, as these folks themselves say.
Dont let wrestlers run a company, cuz they have massive egos, get proper booker, promoter. You have to have balls to be a boss, have to understant that you cant please everyone and be everyones friend.. Ofcourse a lot of downfall was influenced by zVince leaving wwe and product getting way better for them
Better booking mainly. And they need to pick their top stars better. The guys that look like they'd be threats to the top WWE stars are hidden while much smaller, less charismatic guys like Yuta, Garcia, Cassidy, and Perry take up all the screen time. The only small guy in AEW that's believable as a top star is Darby and that's because he's equal parts Jeff Hardy, Rey Mysterio, and Mick Foley. He legitimately has something special right now and they're squandering it. The other guys need about 5-10 more years of ring, promo, and character work and at least 50 more pounds to be in the positions they're currently in. Watching Orange Cassidy the world beater run through half the roster undefeated when he looks like the guy selling me my Insignia TV at Best Buy is not a good look for him, the talent putting him over, or AEW as a whole. Orange Cassidy is not believable and he only would be if AEW were based inside of an anime. That's the only way he should be knocking guys out with his power of friendship punch.
The counterpoint to that is didn't Moxley get publicly beat by a burger flipper 50 pounds lighter than him at the bjj white belt level? The bigger tougher looking guy isn't always going to be the guy that wins in a real fight. People know that, so why think it should apply to a predetermined match when it doesn't apply in real life? Yes, the booking needs to be better, but trying to push guys that weren't already WWE stars isn't the problem. Inconsistent booking and stories that go nowhere or are dropped with no explanation is.
@@FailedBard It just needs to be guys more believable than Yuta, Garcia, Cassidy, and Perry. I gave Darby as an example already, he's basically a human missle that believably punches above his pay grade. Another is Jay White. The ideal would be Malakai Black. He's not the biggest guy but he's lean and looks like a fighter same with Hook. Out of the pack I listed, Yuta and Garcia have some potential, but Perry and OC are almost lost causes at this point without major character work, psychology changes or about 30 more pounds of muscle at least and even then they shouldn't be used when you have a perfectly good Pac, Buddy Matthews, and Claudio in the mix. These guys already have the look and star power.
@@arnav_verma619 WWE mentioned AEW like 5 times, one directly and couple insider jokes, AEW on the other hand had periods where they had to take open shots at WWE multiple times per show. Triple H didn't even mention Ospreay, he just said some people aren't willing to put on grind to work in WWE.
AEW put their whole identity on “being better than WWE”. And then WWE got better, so what the hell is their identity now? The answer is “Khan becoming Vince McMahon 2.0.”
So funny because the fans and media actually thought that AEW was going to be huge. When in fact, they ruined themselves in the end. All that hype and here we are 5 years later. Low ratings, low attendance and consistent backstage drama
I just wish they would throw the title on mjf & ride him into prosperity. Like how wwe did with stone cold in the attitude era. Stone cold saved wwe back than. I feel mjf can do the same. Just ride with your biggest star. We all love mjf
AEW over expanded too quickly. Way too many hours of TV that weren't needed. Way too many wrestlers signed that aren't needed. They bought another promotion in ROH which completely derailed and distracted from AEW's growth.
It started with the Bucks "Victory lap" after CM Punk left. And it's been going downhill ever since. Because that also coincided with WWE's improvement and then a few months later it's return to boom period.
One of the main reasons why AEW won those first 3 years against WWE was because 2019, 2020, and 2021 were some of the worst years in WWE history. Raw, SmackDown, and even NXT were putting on some terrible segments and episodes they have ever done. Vince McMahon was out of touch with what the fans wanted, so it's no wonder why AEW overshadow WWE during those years. However, as Kevin said in this video above, 2022 was where things started to shift in the favor of WWE. Once Triple H took over after Vince McMahon stepped down, this was where the REAL competition began. Ever since then, AEW has been following behind WWE when it comes to putting on great shows. It's one thing to go up against a boss [Vince McMahon] who did not know what the fans wanted. It was another thing to go up against a new boss [Triple H] who knew how to keep the fans' interest. Like what other people are saying in this comment section, it doesn't help when Tony Khan keeps taking pot shots at WWE, even when AEW loses viewership throughout the year. Not to mention when Smarks and some wrestling journalists(looking at you, Dave Meltzer) keep deflecting any form of criticism away from AEW and trying to say that it is akin to hate. Let's just say that makes things worse for them. Could AEW recover? Yes, never say never in wrestling. But they have to be careful. Instead of knocking WWE ever now and then, they need to focus on making themselves better. This way, they will be the alternative that the fans were always asking for.
It took you guys 13mins to even mention the main reason behind WWE'S failure in this "War" from 2019-2021 Vince McMahon! Once he was ousted it spelled doom for AEW
The Punk footage killed them. Ratings crashed once they saw the footage and realised Khan had no reason to fire him. Tony Khan lost whatever goodwill he had with fans that night.
That footage would have come out at some point anyway. Without the footage, AEW's smear campaign against Punk bordered on defamation, and I expected there to be litigation against AEW in the near future. However, after the footage came out, the Punker was vindicated and he no longer needed to defend himself. It was all out there.
Aew should be it's own thing, referencing stuff that happened in another company or stuff from 20 years ago is bad a brand that's supposed to be the new thing.
I've read the comments and ya'll crack me up. AEW has some great long term stories (Swerve/Page, MJF/Cole and Mox/Danielson),all intertwined. WWE has some good long term stories too, errm the Bloodine and Cody or Cody and KO. None of them involve Punk though, he's a grifter, but all of them involve an AEW original. Just saying lol
Holding on ex wwe guys Tony khan as a one man show as president, head of creative ect ect The Elite and Jack Perry incident Firing cm punk .... the list of my opinions for the fall of aew is felt endless 😅
Except few matches, in broad sense Denialson and Edge failed to pull eyeballs and ratings. Its good they are getting big money with less work, may that was their goal, so they are happy and we are happy for them.
If i was Running AEW I'd fire the Young Bucks and Jungle boy Sell RoH Run smaller arenas instead of tarping or just jamming what little crowds show up to hard cam side and set limits to creative control what i mean by that is i think WWE and AEW are the opposite ends of the extreme in that wrestlers should have creative freedom because they know their strengths, weaknesses and what they can do but there needs to be a voice of authority to make choices that work or else the whole roster just pulls a Hogan "that doesn't work for me brother" and thats how you get these bi polar storylines AEW has on the flip WWE (may have gotten better under Triple H i havent been able to watch alot lately) is that they hire writers which is fine for building the frame of the story but making the wrestlers read the script word for word at best makes everyone sound the same and at worst makes the fans go "why would he/she say/do that" Austin 3:16 was an improvised promo because he had heard Jake Roberts do a religious bit before the match that simply wouldn't have happened in WWE now or at least would have been buried because god forbid someone takes it apon themselves to get themselves over. There needs to be a middle ground there Another problem with AEW not every feud needs to end with a blood and guts death match where even the fans are leaving injured why should i ve worried about someone getting jumped with a chair when last week i saw him on PPV do a 30 minute match where he got hit with chairs 30 times set on fire twice jabbed with a needle with a concentrated strain of Super AIDS then still kick out at 2 after geting hit with his opponents finisher 5 times in a row It just leaves the fans going "what are they going to do next month just shoot the fucking guy?"
TNA actually went to head with RAW but in the end TNA lost and did more in the numbers than AEW. There is something missed here, Cody worked with AEW for months without a contract. Cody was the key figure in creating AEW and was pushed out of the company he not oly started but gave some of AEW's greatest matches. WWE said thank you and put him to run parell with the Bloodlines Story line. Also check out the segment unedited, Hangman did say somehting to Punk that upset Punk. Hangman has been caught on camera saying he does not need to hear any advice from anyone. A dumb thing to say unless you reach mega star status a something no AEW wrestler has achieved yet. Cabana was moved to Ring of Honor to keep him and punk seperated. Punk nor Cabana had any issues so Hangman was completely in the wrong and Punk has shown on NXT that he is happy to work with young talent and works with WWE to cement his legacy. Also to be fair John Cena and the Undertaker are major star but so are the ones featured in AEW. So to claim AEW lost to NXT due to major stars is bullshit. AEW has various exWWE stars, AEW lost to NXT due to the fans getting tired of AEW's video game matches. When you get dropped on your head you do not get up one second later. Getting dropped on your head is a move stronger than an exposed elbow to the back of the head with a fansy name but in reality fails to be anything other than an elbow to the back of the head a pathetic move that does as much devestating damage as the People's Elbow, in dress shoes.
23:17 ...I always forget about that NXT Alumni episode, the one 'taker, Cena, and Cody all came back for one night only to their old stomping grounds... I always thought it was nice of those old NXT graduates to come back and give the rub to the new generation.
I’ll start by having less OC and wheeler yuta they are good but come on them having tv time over guys like Starks, Hobbs, Golden Elite just recently Jay White is getting involved into the scene more which I’m glad, you have mjf doing the same thing still, wardlow is in a constant cycle of booking hell, just get rid of tk and the bucks maybe it’ll be alright 😂
The Bucks don't get enough credit for ruining aew
Being ratings poison doesn’t help.
If you blame. Yes they deserve the blame
bucks are what created aew and it always felt like it was more about them. Even all in 2018 they hogged the main event spot. they even ran out of time
Ding ding ding the right answer
fr, Kenny was willing to bury the hatchet and work with Punk but they weren't.
AEW's whole identity was "WWE sucks, come watch us instead"
I'd say it was doomed to fail as soon as WWE started getting good again
Exactly. To think Paul Levesque's statement about being "not a sprint but a marathon" came out so true it turned into a mic drop of its own
Yep! After Vince left Tony can’t keep up with HHH and WWE. The company is now a failure and it all started after Cody Rhodes left and it got worse when they released the All In footage
It was always a being the elite vortex universe mode built off the youtube channel. The company is pretty much named after the faction
Once the evil Vince McMahon was gone, AEW had no identity. They had to get good. Instead AEW's identity is "For the Sickos."
Bingo!!! 😂 lol it was never good outside cm punk era & peak MJF
"this is a marathon not a one night sprint"
Look at where AEW is now.
Yeah look. More PPVs. More partnership. TV deal. Going to Max. Life's good, WWE is better but AEW is earning. Life's better for wrestlers.
@@themexicanwolverine You mean about to debut on MAX next month ? On their way to sell their first US Stadium show ?
Don't believe everything that your Twitter echo chamber tells you.
What destroyed AEW?
The Bucks, Hangman and Tony. That’s who killed AEW.
Dave Meltzer too.
@@FranklinDBluth see living in your own delusion is good but you can't change the fact how Bucks made the tag team division relevant and Hangman helped cm junk getting thrown out of company also best feud & heel of the year in 2024 too.
@@Avg_Joe_001 lmao not even in the company 🤣🤣🤣
most importantly Dave Meltzer n all those hardcore fans who never criticized AEW!!
@@arnav_verma619 yeah so relevant that they can't even beat the developmental of WWE😂
keep coping buddy
AEW will never reach the colossal level of threat that WCW was to WWF.
Even TNA. TNA was able to draw 2 million viewers (before Dixie Carter came in).
@josecarlosramolete6109 True, but I mean Aew will NEVER reach that level of threat WCW had. WCW was beating WWFs ratings, they were beating their main show in viewers for 83 straight weeks.
Let's be real, they HAD the opportunity at their first year due to how hot and fresh they were (and Vince was still on his ultra senile mode), but Tony didn't capitalize it and instead he was slowly changing it into his personalized collect-all-wrestlers toy box and that was pretty much the end of the opportunity. Unlike his dad, Tony, unfortunately, isn't a really good businessman even when there's a gold mine standing in front of him.
@@kuncorotri5217Not really, the show was the most popular/successful during 2021-2023
@@phoenixfirebird4221 nice joke it's like someone saying WWE is the best company of 2024
Booking show off of Dave Meltzer's forum fantasy booking will not appeal with general public, only with niche internet audience
Come on, Marko Stunt wasn't mainstream I ain't buying it he was "fun size"
Dave Meltzer is just a loser that can't get a job in mainstream wrestling company that only can do BS on the internet and worship by another big bunch of internet losers.
Sorry that is not for the "general audience", bro
Not everything produced on TV ever has to appeal to the "general audience", pipe down the entitlement and let fans enjoy what they want to enjoy.
“You could ask me anything, you could of asked me about AEW 😮”- Sami Zayn
Sammy Zayn's "pipebomb" moment
Cody Rhodes too had the biggest & most important role in the overall and successful organization of ALL IN, by both, financially and in terms of promoting it to the masses and fetching in so many great wrestlers. He's the one who revolutionized the wrestling in the latter half of last decade. Today, he is the biggest name in the world of pro wrestling.
After Cody left, AEW doesn't went sour. Heck they lost chance to use Nightmare Factory school.
Exactly. He was who lead the organization of the first All In, Bucks were like his EVPs in it-(something they might have become bitter about), TK joined after the PPV.
@@कृतार्थयादव but the fans turned on him bc he wouldn't go heel and do the homelander gimmick
The downfall started when Cody left that company
And now Cody is in his own downfall he failed as WWE champion that crowd started chanting him he deserves it etc.
Plus dropping the ball with jade cargill and cm punk plus the rey Fenix situation and that weird fued with mjf and Adam cole
@@arnav_verma619lmao, what a response, how old are you buddy?
@@ricardoman8018 jade Cargill is the worst wrestler ever! Even worse than Becky cringe & Seth Rollins imagine supporting her lmao and cm punk buried himself in AEW 💯
@@patoillumi 15th sep 2006
AEW needs storyline continuity, and they need to recognize and display their top stars who have previously won the world championship which are Chris Jericho, Adam Page, Jon Moxley, MJF, Samoa Joe and Swerve Strickland. Those are AEWs' top stars based on the decision of them being former world Champs in AEW and still being active. Tony Khan needs to keep it simple and not have complex storylines. Wrestling is simple. Everyone wants the belt to potentially create a lasting legacy. For the future stars they should have to go through those six to become a main eventer within AEW. Regardless of if they are an Ex wwe star or indy, they need to go through those six to be classified as a maineventer within AEW.
I love how the most constructive effort-present comment gets 4 likes and one sentence shit-posting gets 40 likes. Raise your bar, people.
@@kevinkthedj its not contructive when it completely misses the point and only puts the wwe fanboy fanboy of view, we dont want to be like wwe, if they need to change its stop hiring wwe fails and be more like new japan, aew exists because of dumb wwe storylines that make zero sense and a portion of the audience actually want wrestling,
@@Mintycomenter6000 This.... surprisingly makes good sense.
Especially that "Wrestling is simple" part. Perfection. Wrestling doesn't need to be the wannabe MCU, it doesn't have to pretend to be Emmy Award material..
*Wrestling Is Simple*
@@Mintycomenter6000 This.... surprisingly makes good sense.
Especially that "Wrestling is simple" part. Perfection. Wrestling doesn't need to be the wannabe MCU, it doesn't have to pretend to be Emmy Award material..
*Wrestling Is Simple*
Maybe I’m wrong, but I feel like if they get a better booker and get Tony off of social media, AEW could make some sort of comeback
For sure. They need to hire a creative team already to create good storylines. Wrestling is more than what goes on in the ring and AEW needs to understand that if they want to grow. Or in this case: survive.
100 %, but TK sadly will never step down.
I don't think you're wrong, its just that they won't do that.
AEW needs Shane McMahon as the face of the company
@gggmmm7204 And what changes that for the aew product? The product is bad, the booker has to change.
Things that made me personally stopped watching
-Lost focus with roster. Everything felt interconnected early on
-Too many belts. Why is there a continental title and an international title?
-Dream matches for the sake of dream matches
-Jericho. Don't hate him but some time off would be nice
-Women's division is the worst it's ever been
-Too much use of blood. It loses it's impact when you see it on every show
-This one is a bit niche but getting rid of AEW Dark shows, we literally got 2 free shows weekly and got to see some talent grow like The Acclaimed
I hope it bounces back, AEW needs to exist so that other companies stay on their feets
How many belts does WWE have?
i have tried numerous times to get into aew.
every time they had some random wrestler just show up and is now in the mix of an angle. then excalibur or schivone expects me as a fan to be knowledgeable of the ongoings of the Santa Fe indie scene. im out.
Same people that mark out when they see a QR code for yet another failed Wyatt angle, btw.
You're only making an excuse, bro.
You're an adult (at least I do hope), you're more than capable of catching up by yourself, don't expect the show to hold your hand or feed you like a baby 🍼
@@YourProfessional-Gachagamer he’s not wrong though. How can you expect to attract a newer target audience and treat them like they’re just supposed to know automatically who the wrestlers are? That’s why they’ll always be a small wrestling promotion because it only targets a certain audience.
there are three pivotal moments which killed aew's momentum.
cm punk's brawl out presser-he showed how the sausage was made. he showed there was no leadership. the leadership that was in place were indie jag offs who only had a indie mindset and only wanted to play with their friends.
cody rhodes' departure-he co-founded aew. he promised to take wrestling in a new direction. he wanted to revolutionize the entire industry. he was mr.aew. HE LEFT!!!
vince's ouster- the main drawing power of aew was it wasnt vince's stale, out of touch, poop joked filled, and very inconsistent wwe. Well that guy was given the boot. there is nothing aew can rebel against as the big bad boogy man was shown the door.
Completely agree, just couple Vince's ousting with Papa H taking control of creative. While he hasn't been perfect, for the most part, he's had some amazing stories and booking. He really exposed how out of touch Vince was and just how much Vince mishandled stories, characters and matches etc etc. Fans were tired of the ridiculous and whack stories and how their favorite wrestlers were booked. Triple H has completely turned that all the way around.
Back when WWE and WCW were rivals, WWE had to think of something new to stay ahead of the competition
And so, the Attitude Era came about. AEW has to think of something never been seen in the wrestling world to be noticed. They’re literally competing with a billion-dollar industry
The real reason why Attitude Era was inaugurated it was because WWE was able to see a LOOPHOLE on WCW: NWO storyline. NWO storyline got many WCW fans sick and tired of the same faction storyline over and over again. The straw that broke the camel's back was Sting joining NWO Wolfpac (red and black faction).
this is what happens when you book your show to please dave meltzer and not the casual audience
@@dnice712 The casual audience doesn't care about dudes yelling about MUH RATINGS or MUH ATTENDANCE on a daily basis, but here you are.
It's always been indie show to me atleast that was it sold to me when watching it.
It’s an Indie WWE
B rate roster and storylines that disappear or make little to no sense
Disagree about the roster. They literally have a best roster in any wrestling promotion. They just suck at creating new storyline (from past 2 years atleast)
I strongly criticize Tony's booking but I don't think that they have a bad roster. IMO AEW has a lot of the best wrestlers under contract. Tony just has no idea what to do with them. RoH for example is filled with great talent who are breaking their bodies in front of no audience.
Give me the top 15 wrestlers in the aew roster and ill tell you how they don't have the best roster@BollyToHolly
The thing that the WWE has drawn back the lost fans and chunks of audience, is not any speculation but straight, visual and obvious fact.
@@कृतार्थयादव and then you look at their ratings.
Oh sorry, we only can focus on AEW's, right ? We never talk about WWE really not growing as much as you all pretend it is...
Tiny Kahn only learned from watching WCW and ECW. Can you tell?
Nah, he also watched NJPW, All Japan, and various territories that were available through tape trading. I disagree with the limitations you placed on his "research", but I'm stealing the nickname. It's perfect.
There are two types of AEW haters: 1) they think aew is currently bad but want it to succeed 2) they think aew is currently bad but want aew to fail.
I think it can be a competitor again but Tony needs to hire actual creative/executive teams and stop treating the promotion like it’s a toy and be a leader.
@StoneOcean24 ya, but it is a toy to him and always will be.
Man, I would never seen this topic from WrestleTalk, would I?
I think their version is called who killed whoever. And they like AEW, they wont burry AEW like that 😂
The fact Punk was willing to put his personal feelings aside and work with the Elite says a lot. Especially since they declined. It shows who put the product and good of the company before themselves and who didn't. Look at how great it has been with Punk in WWE. He has been a veteran and mentor for a lot of NXT talent and is apparently a model citizen backstage. The Elite put the Elite before AEW and they always have.
It amazed me watching Survivor Series and the following Raw that the way Punk was booked was a masterclass of what AEW could have done with him and the Elite. Money was there to be made and the Bucks blew it all away for their own petty egos.
Here is what AEW needs to do: Take the book from Tony Khan. Remove any executive status from any active wrestlers backstage. Rehire CM Punks ex best friend CM Punk
AEW is where the best wrestle and wrestle!
Especially inside the locker room!
No doubt 💯
Only bad times it gone through was All out 2022-Revolution 2023
A lot of their feuds are one-and-done. Literally after having a championship on a PPV, each competitor move on to something new. They're not letting their shit breathe.
I don’t like how the editor uses clips that anachronistically don’t match up to what is being explained.
There are a lot of reasons, but for me, they constantly push people who are not over. Hook, Yuta, Ishii...etc.
I can't believe AEW still havent done a brand split. Their roster is way too big and they have 2 one hour shows nobody cares about in Rampage and Collision. Combine those 2 shows into one show with an official brand split with its own champions and storylines.
I would argue that most of the problems caused by the Elite where simply just Matt and Nick + Adam Page talking shit.
I really don't believe Kenny is likely to do any of that stuff, besides he was mostly injured and out during most of the drama after the All Out Brawl.
Kenny buried the hatchet with Punk in private. Says a lot if he couldn't convince the Bucks to do the same for the good of the company.
AEW loves bringing in talent no one outside of the internet wrestling community knows and acting like everyone should magically know who they are.
They tried putting Toni Storms return match against the whole of Saturday Nights Main Event.
Toni was on top of the fucking globe, but in her absence everyone saw just how god awful Tony is at booking and checked out.
Despite all the ex-WWE guys he’s been buying up, people aren’t interested because the audience knows they’ll never hit the highs they should if they aren’t friends with Hogan and the rest of the NWO- I mean The Young Bucks and The Elite.
Toni like MJF and Swerve Strickland should be instant ratings but are the golden sails on a sinking ship
If Tony Khan cannot salvage AEW, 2 things likely to happen (IMO):
1. TK needs to step down as a booker
2. TNA should purchase AEW
Are you serious bro?
😂😂😂
Aew got a hbo max deal compared to tna
Lmfao what? TNA already has it’s own problems coming soon 😂
@@mattpryokra2245 their biggest mistake was working with wwe and letting their talents get poached.
@@HighWoody No one was poached. WWE is many wrestlers' goal. Everyone knows Jordyn Grace will end up in WWE. It gave TNA some much needed exposure and for the fans, matches they never would have seen otherwise. It was far from a mistake.
If I was in charge of AEW……#1 priority: Hire Bully Ray to run creative. #2 Fire every current wrestler from EVP positions. #3 Replace Excalibur.
AEW is still amazing :) Been watching it since day 1 and will continue to do so until the end :)
There will be a day when Triple H show up on AEW, get into the ring and said, "Game over. The fate of AEW is in my hands."
@@dvd2909 only if he wants to be as cringe as you all are by imagining something like this.
Bro, you're a grown adult, act like one.
CM Punk is the only wrestler to draw in ROH, AEW, WWE, UFC, TNA, AND ECW
Tony Khan doomed AEW by deciding to be the booker and take advice from Dave Meltzer.
Too many storylines that stall out, and too many things like the Young Bucks heel authority gimmick look like they came from early 2010s WWE. Also with all of the backstage attacks hospitalization, literal robbery, arson and murder fakeout you train the audience not to really pay attention to everything because "it's just a wrestling angle" and you can't suspend disbelief.
One problem i have notice with aew is that when a wrestler is getting a push we dont see them again for weeks on end like hook and certain storylines just get dropped and we never hear it again like the adam cole turning heel and mjf turning face. They dont know how to make new stars
I swear I see a new raise and fall mini doc of aew every week
Hating on AEW gets clicks, you see ?
AEW died the day Cm Punk left
As per Undertaker said at Smackdown vs RAW 2007 season mode, *"You got no one to blame but yourself"* + as per Snitsky said during his days on WWE, "It Wasn't My Fault"* because it's mostly Tony's own fault when he knows that he's the one who need to blame when his Wrestling Promotions goes bankruptcy. It's suck for them when all of them realise that AEW Dynamite constantly being beaten by WWE's Development Brands in terms of everything
wasn't that the "if you insist on making this mistake, then your grieving family will have no one else to blame but you when the inevetable occurs" segment?
Santana and Ortiz never being the AEW tag-team champions still makes me angry.
FOR ME EVERY WRESTLING COMPANIES ARE PHENOMENAL OKAY? CHANGE MY MIND BUT I ALWAYS RESPECTED EVERYONE’S OPINION
The type of dude to say '"I enjoy all wrestling" 🤓
@ YES EXACTLY BUT FROM OCTOBER 1996 UNTIL DECEMBER 2024 I FAILED MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY BUT FROM JANUARY 2025 ONWARDS FOR THE FIRST AND LAST TIME I WILL DRASTICALLY CHANGE MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY AND YOU CAN BELIEVE OR NOT RESPECT MY OPINIONS OR NOT FAIR ENOUGH. NOW WORDS FLIES AND FACTS STAYS GOODBYE.
TK is only responsible for the fall of his company
Nice joke it's like someone saying WWE is the best company
@@arnav_verma619 they are
@@arnav_verma619 It is the best wrestling company right now. Keep coping lmao.
Kenny Omega choosing to go to New Japan while AEW ratings are collapsing in freefall is very telling.
25:21 Ahhhh yes, I was one of those 800k curious about the footage. I loved it, felt like watching Russo TNA again for one night only
Aew is not going anywhere they will be around for a long while
This is what happens when you book for 1 person. Regular people don't even know who Meltzer is or his imaginary rating system.
Timeout Kenny did a interview some months back and said him and punk been on good terms and was down to do a storyline but it was the bucks and hangman that didn't
Punk was all about business, and Kenny understood that.
Pros:
- Solid roster
Cons:
- Inconsistent storylines/no pay off
- Sporadic appearances by wrestlers. Can't build a Stone Cold Steve Austin if they only show up every other week.
- PPV cost
- Too much creative freedom. It's similar to having a movie with a lineup of A-list actors and a very loose storyline that's mostly dependent on improv. You might see a wide range of acting ability, but it's not going to make sense in the overall scheme of things.
- TK needs to stop pulling McMahon moves. If AEW isn't going to use a wrestler, and that wrestler wants to leave, let them go. It's obviously bad for the wrestlers, but it's also bad for the industry at large. Wasting someone's potential because you're petty isn't a good look.
- Too many belts. Scarcity provides value.
Future improvements:
- Cheaper PPVs
- HBO Max deal
- The return of Kenny Omega
No. The Jericho/MJF musical number was not iconic or charismatic. It was cringe. And embarrassing. Stop it.
Neither was the debut of the inner circle it seemed never ending
After Cody Rhodes left that was a huge sign AEW was headed towards its downfall. Once CM Punk came back to WWE and exposed AEW that’s when things completely fell apart. AEW will ever recover from the All In backstage footage. Tony should’ve just ignored CM Punk when he did that interview but he decided to act like a child and cry about it saying “my life was in danger”
Wow, killing a program that is battling a WWE that has a multi-million dollar company. Also, so-called news outlets like yourself are trying to only highlight negative news. Don't forget an unprofessional CM Punk. Also, people like Konan and Eric are always underming AEW. Konan coming out and saying he advised Penta not to resign with AEW. Penta totally forgetting that it was AEW who took a chance on him and his ungrateful brother
Hating on AEW is "cool", you see ? These people never wanted an alternative, they just wanted WWE to "become good" again even though they were saying that it was good back when they were competing.
New toy syndrome, as these folks themselves say.
I wonder if there will be an up charge for PPV events on MAX or if it will be included at the higher tiers.
I get the feeling TNA never cared about competing with WWE and just got on with it, AEW on the other hand couldn’t help themselves
What's insane to me is that AEW beat WWE's DEVELOPMENTAL 3rd brand and everyone thought AEW had a chance...
The thing is tony said aew would be the alternative to wwe, but it felt like a cheaper version of the wwe
Dont let wrestlers run a company, cuz they have massive egos, get proper booker, promoter. You have to have balls to be a boss, have to understant that you cant please everyone and be everyones friend.. Ofcourse a lot of downfall was influenced by zVince leaving wwe and product getting way better for them
This is an AEW fluff piece.
Better booking mainly. And they need to pick their top stars better. The guys that look like they'd be threats to the top WWE stars are hidden while much smaller, less charismatic guys like Yuta, Garcia, Cassidy, and Perry take up all the screen time. The only small guy in AEW that's believable as a top star is Darby and that's because he's equal parts Jeff Hardy, Rey Mysterio, and Mick Foley. He legitimately has something special right now and they're squandering it. The other guys need about 5-10 more years of ring, promo, and character work and at least 50 more pounds to be in the positions they're currently in. Watching Orange Cassidy the world beater run through half the roster undefeated when he looks like the guy selling me my Insignia TV at Best Buy is not a good look for him, the talent putting him over, or AEW as a whole. Orange Cassidy is not believable and he only would be if AEW were based inside of an anime. That's the only way he should be knocking guys out with his power of friendship punch.
The counterpoint to that is didn't Moxley get publicly beat by a burger flipper 50 pounds lighter than him at the bjj white belt level? The bigger tougher looking guy isn't always going to be the guy that wins in a real fight. People know that, so why think it should apply to a predetermined match when it doesn't apply in real life?
Yes, the booking needs to be better, but trying to push guys that weren't already WWE stars isn't the problem. Inconsistent booking and stories that go nowhere or are dropped with no explanation is.
@@FailedBard It just needs to be guys more believable than Yuta, Garcia, Cassidy, and Perry. I gave Darby as an example already, he's basically a human missle that believably punches above his pay grade. Another is Jay White. The ideal would be Malakai Black. He's not the biggest guy but he's lean and looks like a fighter same with Hook. Out of the pack I listed, Yuta and Garcia have some potential, but Perry and OC are almost lost causes at this point without major character work, psychology changes or about 30 more pounds of muscle at least and even then they shouldn't be used when you have a perfectly good Pac, Buddy Matthews, and Claudio in the mix. These guys already have the look and star power.
1. Let go of anyone. And wait 3 months later.
2. Run small arena.
AEW have very good roster but the problem is, they are focused on wwe rather than themselves
What about punk every time mentioning AEW to be relevant in WWE?
@@arnav_verma619 Yeah bro Punk isn't my favorite either but there is a difference between 1 wrestler and a whole damn company.
@@HarshilTHEHASEMPIREAnand what about Triple L mentioning Ospreay without reason before WM and that one joker Gay son Waller I think
@@arnav_verma619 WWE mentioned AEW like 5 times, one directly and couple insider jokes, AEW on the other hand had periods where they had to take open shots at WWE multiple times per show.
Triple H didn't even mention Ospreay, he just said some people aren't willing to put on grind to work in WWE.
AEW put their whole identity on “being better than WWE”. And then WWE got better, so what the hell is their identity now?
The answer is “Khan becoming Vince McMahon 2.0.”
So funny because the fans and media actually thought that AEW was going to be huge. When in fact, they ruined themselves in the end. All that hype and here we are 5 years later. Low ratings, low attendance and consistent backstage drama
How I wish I could go back to October 2 19
Cant wait to see the dark side of the ring the downfall of aew in a couple of years
Thank you Jack Perry and the bucks!
The Rise was because of Cody entering, the fall was because of Cody leaving
You're talking like it's already over really?
The ratings have dropped so much that its now basically at the same level as TNA/Impact. Its over.
Oye vey... Slow news day
May I ask the name of the background music? So catchy.
I just wish they would throw the title on mjf & ride him into prosperity. Like how wwe did with stone cold in the attitude era. Stone cold saved wwe back than. I feel mjf can do the same. Just ride with your biggest star. We all love mjf
The fault of AEW is that khan is making active wrestlers as executives.
AEW over expanded too quickly. Way too many hours of TV that weren't needed. Way too many wrestlers signed that aren't needed. They bought another promotion in ROH which completely derailed and distracted from AEW's growth.
WWE>>>AEW
A basket of fruit > AEW
In terms of boreness 💯💯💯
Even WWE fans will agree to this
@arnav_verma619 Every single WWE fan I know dropped AEW years ago, and despite trying still can't be bothered to try seeing the same problems
@@bashamd96 ok obsessed guy lol
It started with the Bucks "Victory lap" after CM Punk left. And it's been going downhill ever since. Because that also coincided with WWE's improvement and then a few months later it's return to boom period.
When Tony took the reigns from Cody is when the quality started to tank.
One of the main reasons why AEW won those first 3 years against WWE was because 2019, 2020, and 2021 were some of the worst years in WWE history. Raw, SmackDown, and even NXT were putting on some terrible segments and episodes they have ever done. Vince McMahon was out of touch with what the fans wanted, so it's no wonder why AEW overshadow WWE during those years.
However, as Kevin said in this video above, 2022 was where things started to shift in the favor of WWE. Once Triple H took over after Vince McMahon stepped down, this was where the REAL competition began. Ever since then, AEW has been following behind WWE when it comes to putting on great shows. It's one thing to go up against a boss [Vince McMahon] who did not know what the fans wanted. It was another thing to go up against a new boss [Triple H] who knew how to keep the fans' interest.
Like what other people are saying in this comment section, it doesn't help when Tony Khan keeps taking pot shots at WWE, even when AEW loses viewership throughout the year. Not to mention when Smarks and some wrestling journalists(looking at you, Dave Meltzer) keep deflecting any form of criticism away from AEW and trying to say that it is akin to hate. Let's just say that makes things worse for them.
Could AEW recover? Yes, never say never in wrestling. But they have to be careful. Instead of knocking WWE ever now and then, they need to focus on making themselves better. This way, they will be the alternative that the fans were always asking for.
It took you guys 13mins to even mention the main reason behind WWE'S failure in this "War" from 2019-2021 Vince McMahon! Once he was ousted it spelled doom for AEW
Nxt ..never RAW
The Punk footage killed them. Ratings crashed once they saw the footage and realised Khan had no reason to fire him. Tony Khan lost whatever goodwill he had with fans that night.
That footage would have come out at some point anyway. Without the footage, AEW's smear campaign against Punk bordered on defamation, and I expected there to be litigation against AEW in the near future. However, after the footage came out, the Punker was vindicated and he no longer needed to defend himself. It was all out there.
AEW needs their version of Stone Cold.
It’s fell of because of Cody leaving the first blow I honestly believe he was the glue.
Aew should be it's own thing, referencing stuff that happened in another company or stuff from 20 years ago is bad a brand that's supposed to be the new thing.
I've read the comments and ya'll crack me up. AEW has some great long term stories (Swerve/Page, MJF/Cole and Mox/Danielson),all intertwined. WWE has some good long term stories too, errm the Bloodine and Cody or Cody and KO. None of them involve Punk though, he's a grifter, but all of them involve an AEW original. Just saying lol
There is still time. he should immediately make JJ n Danielson the head booker/s.
Holding on ex wwe guys
Tony khan as a one man show as president, head of creative ect ect
The Elite and Jack Perry incident
Firing cm punk .... the list of my opinions for the fall of aew is felt endless 😅
Tony Khan should've snagged Gedo from NJPW instead of relying on himself. Imagine if all had to listen to Gedo.
NJPW would have NEVER let Tony have their booker
Except few matches, in broad sense Denialson and Edge failed to pull eyeballs and ratings.
Its good they are getting big money with less work, may that was their goal, so they are happy and we are happy for them.
The narrator sounds exactly like Joe Rogan lol
If i was Running AEW
I'd fire the Young Bucks and Jungle boy
Sell RoH
Run smaller arenas instead of tarping or just jamming what little crowds show up to hard cam side and set limits to creative control what i mean by that is i think WWE and AEW are the opposite ends of the extreme in that wrestlers should have creative freedom because they know their strengths, weaknesses and what they can do but there needs to be a voice of authority to make choices that work or else the whole roster just pulls a Hogan "that doesn't work for me brother" and thats how you get these bi polar storylines AEW has on the flip WWE (may have gotten better under Triple H i havent been able to watch alot lately) is that they hire writers which is fine for building the frame of the story but making the wrestlers read the script word for word at best makes everyone sound the same and at worst makes the fans go "why would he/she say/do that" Austin 3:16 was an improvised promo because he had heard Jake Roberts do a religious bit before the match that simply wouldn't have happened in WWE now or at least would have been buried because god forbid someone takes it apon themselves to get themselves over. There needs to be a middle ground there
Another problem with AEW not every feud needs to end with a blood and guts death match where even the fans are leaving injured why should i ve worried about someone getting jumped with a chair when last week i saw him on PPV do a 30 minute match where he got hit with chairs 30 times set on fire twice jabbed with a needle with a concentrated strain of Super AIDS then still kick out at 2 after geting hit with his opponents finisher 5 times in a row
It just leaves the fans going "what are they going to do next month just shoot the fucking guy?"
TNA existed as competition before AEW came into be
Orange Cassidy is a parody of a main eventer and yet Tony chooses to push him as a actual star.
Iam an aew guy but when dynamite launched couldnt u only see nxt on the streaming service
TNA actually went to head with RAW but in the end TNA lost and did more in the numbers than AEW. There is something missed here, Cody worked with AEW for months without a contract. Cody was the key figure in creating AEW and was pushed out of the company he not oly started but gave some of AEW's greatest matches. WWE said thank you and put him to run parell with the Bloodlines Story line. Also check out the segment unedited, Hangman did say somehting to Punk that upset Punk. Hangman has been caught on camera saying he does not need to hear any advice from anyone. A dumb thing to say unless you reach mega star status a something no AEW wrestler has achieved yet. Cabana was moved to Ring of Honor to keep him and punk seperated. Punk nor Cabana had any issues so Hangman was completely in the wrong and Punk has shown on NXT that he is happy to work with young talent and works with WWE to cement his legacy. Also to be fair John Cena and the Undertaker are major star but so are the ones featured in AEW. So to claim AEW lost to NXT due to major stars is bullshit. AEW has various exWWE stars, AEW lost to NXT due to the fans getting tired of AEW's video game matches. When you get dropped on your head you do not get up one second later. Getting dropped on your head is a move stronger than an exposed elbow to the back of the head with a fansy name but in reality fails to be anything other than an elbow to the back of the head a pathetic move that does as much devestating damage as the People's Elbow, in dress shoes.
The bucks are like those kids, who think they're funny, but just beat sh!t into the ground.
Darby Allen not getting his title shot
23:17 ...I always forget about that NXT Alumni episode, the one 'taker, Cena, and Cody all came back for one night only to their old stomping grounds...
I always thought it was nice of those old NXT graduates to come back and give the rub to the new generation.
I am hoping that is sarcasm, as 'Taker, Cena, and Cody were never in NXT
I’ll start by having less OC and wheeler yuta they are good but come on them having tv time over guys like Starks, Hobbs, Golden Elite just recently Jay White is getting involved into the scene more which I’m glad, you have mjf doing the same thing still, wardlow is in a constant cycle of booking hell, just get rid of tk and the bucks maybe it’ll be alright 😂