I think it's obscene that a thrill killer like Charles 'Tex' Watson is allowed to marry and have children when he deprived Sharron Tate of that very same privilege. Where's the justice in that?
Agreed. Thank the democrats for that. They were all supposed to be max security until put to death. Then the libs came n got rid of the death penalty, let them have lives with the outside world n gave them parole hearings. Unbelievable. Imagine how scared linda was...knowing one of em might get out n still be wacked n come for u via direct order from charlie.
Either you bring him to death or you lock him up, but then treat him like a human being. If you don't, you're not better than them who killed Sharon Tate and all the others.
Life for murderers is bullshit. & the judges meed to do their damn jobs . start putting them down like the dogs they all. Are. Then the rest if the people who want to murder wont do it ..see how fast this murdering n rapes stops..if you dont agree with me .too damn bad.
Sara communism is an economic theory. Countries like the former Soviet Union used the theory to seize power from the aristocracy. In other words they replaced one dictatorship with another and the common person wasn’t any better off. That isn’t liberalism. What that is is more right wing thuggery.
I have lived in LA my entire 63 year life. My dad was an LAPD homicide detective during this time, and I can tell you, only 3 crimes that I can remember caused actual fear to the average person in Los Angeles. The Hillside Stranglers (1977-1978), The Night Stalker (Richard Ramirez) 1985 and Manson. In todays world, this might be a one day news story. In 1969 this was unheard of. It was the day Los Angeles lost whatever innocence it may have had.
I hear what your saying Phil and 99% agree. The murders you mentioned were up close & personal & savage. I'm 62, my dad was also a sheriff..what I see now is the obvious gun issue. Columbine, a Florida gay club, a Las Vegas outdoor concert, a Colorado movie theater ect...the easy way to obtain firearms so some mentally I'll person can slaughter people is insane.
LA didn't ever have much innocence. I grew up in California and spent my time with my dads family in Hollywood. And there were many things to fear there. But he didn't do it. Read Tom O Neil's book
Fear and loathing, the high water mark, the acid wave finally broke, with the right kind of eyes you can see the high water mark on the hillside of Vegas
Sorry but I totally agree with the statement read Charlie’s real life story not the bull shit psychology cack! It’s no wonder he went crazy he’s a product of his environment
@@chriscorvin5077 YES ! Exactly these people don’t realize that it’s the government people love to think that one person can control so many nope MK Ultra . This show is a BS to try to explain to simpletons what’s really going on.
It's really sad with Steven Parent as he was the youngest adult killed up there, yet is usually never even mentioned since he was just an average kid from a middle class family.
It's especially sad because of the fact that Steven Parent had absolutely nothing to do with Manson or his cult. He was just in the wrong place at the wrong time.
I agree that Steven Parent gets overlooked. I also think Sharon’s baby should be counted. The baby was full term and could have survived if he was born early. That makes the count 8 people died.
Talk about absolute bad luck. Meets the caretaker less than 48 hrs, gets an invitation to visit, and has an untimely death. That poor young man. Much sadness for those that loved him.
I rode a Triumph 650 Bonneville through the canyons of L.A. through Hollywood and Beverly Hills at that time. Wish I could go back in time via a time machine.
Such blanket statements are usually uttered by stupid people. What do they do for intelligent people? I have found psychedelic drugs have been a way to engage with the world, not disengage.
@Jesse Your initial statement can easily be interpreted as saying that anyone who uses drugs or booze is stupid and that the use of said drugs, even if fun at the time, makes those stupid people more stupid, leading to guilt and regret. I am pleased you did not intend for it to be read that way.
@Std Disclaimer, you need to learn how to read. He didn't say he was a victim of mind control. He said he might have been a victim of mind control which is true.
I was 15 years old. I almost ran away from home in Everett Washington to go to Woodstock. What he influenced was the opposite of the direction society was going in.
My college roommate turned 15 in spring, 69. His family lived off Beverly Glen and one morning he woke up and his little brother (maybe 7 or 8) was in his bed. Kid said he had woken up because people were in the house. Being scared he went to his brother's room. They checked but nothing was missing although a back door had been left unlocked. They thought nothing more of it until much later when at the Tate LaBianca trial it came out that the Family had creepy crawled through people's houses late at night.
I remember this like it was yesterday, I was 9 years old and my mom wouldn't let me out of the yard, no playing outside until the street lights came on ! I remember being scared but not because of what happened because I don't think I really understood any of it yet . No I was scared because my mom and Aunt were scared, at night my mom wouldn't go sleep in her bedroom, she was a divorcee raising me, and it was just my Mom and I, so anyway she would sleep on the couch with a very large butcher knife in her hand, and that's what scared me the most !! What really took hold of me and I started to really understand was the trial I think every house in Los Angeles county was glued to the TV, waiting to see whatever they could. The big wake up call for me was learning where the found Charlie hiding, he was a little man and they found him hiding in the cupboards of the Barker Ranch, the lady I called Aunt, (wasn't by blood) was my Mom's best friend and her Daughter was mine, still is to this day, and their last name is Barker, her uncle owned the Ranch, and we used to go there in the summer. There were hippie's hanging around with a lot of small children and I remember having the best time !! We didn't really go their after that, but I will never forget !!
This happened with weekend of my 10th birthday which was August 10th! While I was young I totally grasped the awfulness of what had happened. I was already well aware of Sharon Tate's popularity and had seen Valley of the Dolls. I've probably watched Once Upon A Time In Hollywood 25 times because I can't stop wishing that is how that night would have ended.
That was a fantastic movie, we all wish was true. Definitely worth seeing a time or two! My parents let me watch or read whatever was around. Looking back I think, yeah that's cool but some boundaries would've suited me much better. The 70s was a magical time in many ways yet it hurt a lot of us too. Kids need structure and rules first.
its funny i was ten yrs old that summer also but i don't remember a god damn thing about this asshole or the killings, of course i grew up on the east coast
If Manson really wanted to sing, he should've kept on knocking on doors instead of going out on a killing spree. Many big time artists struggled very much before they got their first opportunity.
He lived in the world of Drugs total rebellion against the establishment and was not crazy he played people and dogged all responsibility..He played everyone in the interviews. He was honest when he said I'm nobody
I too grew up there in Canoga Park. In fact, when I was a kid I'd ride my bike to the Alpha Beta market at Woodlake and Saticoy and I saw some of the Manson girls dumpster diving behind the market. When I rode my bike past the girls were nice, said "hi", etc. My Mom used to also play Yahtzee at our next door neighbors house once or twice a month and they'd play all night. So one night they're playing and my Mom was facing the sliding glass door and said she saw a girls face peering in at them. She looked at her friend, starting telling her "there's a girl in your back yard" but when she looked back the face was gone. They went to the sliding glass door (the neighbor had a gun) and my Mom said dogs were barking in the block walled back yards and then they heard giggling. My Mom always thought it may have been some of the Manson girls out "creepy crawling" as they said they did at night sometimes.
Magic is evil.its all connected.the dark arts the beatles manson melcher tate polanski child sacrifice !!!!##rosemarys baby..!#!# helllloooooo.the beatles wete followers of who ???? Alistar crowley .the beast
Manson Was a Clear in Scientology... Possibly Even Part of an Offshoot Called The Process Church & They're Rumored to be Heavily Involved in The Son of Sam an Smiley Face Killings
That's the secret of brain washing giving people what they want to hear once he said what their were thinking and feeling they choose to follow him for that reason.
no it wasnt, look around you today. legalization of drugs, "free love" everywhere, extreme left equality and "love" measures. the 60s is what began it all. It just looked more tame then, because it was kids who had been brought up by a generation that had espoused christianity. Its more out of control now because Christianity continues to fade, like a dying ember.
Lol if you feed people enough of it they will eventually start questioning reality and this guy was sober giving them suggestion that there is no wrong or right that we are gods and I know plenty of people who would fall for that kind of mind set all of them dope heads drugs is witchcraft I've seen people use peyote and play a Ouija board and start telling me things about my life that no body could know so you think what you want but all of that crap opens doors to the spiritual realm and all that come through is demonic influences
Pharmacy in greek means witchcraft, poison, drugs I'm not saying all medicines are witchcraft but I've seen alot of drugs destroy people's life and hallucinogens used in rituals for witchcraft. you dont believe me because you havent experienced it but hey I've been around I know what I'm talking about.
@@99WingedTigers I have experienced the "spiritual" on drugs, dude. It was because I was fuckin high. I've done peyote, acid, salvia, mushroom. I do know what you mean, just because I'm not drinking the paranormal Kool-Aid as the explanation doesn't mean I don't get it. Just because you can't explain an experience on drugs, doesn't mean it's a paranormal experience. Your friend could tell you things about yourself because sometimes you're more insightful and thoughtful on drugs. I already knew that's what "pharmacy" means and it's because pharmaceuticals come from alchemy. Doesn't mean it's witchcraft.
Charlie Mason is the result of a society that failed to treat the most outcast, not because of the "peace and love" generation. Ever since elementary school Manson got in trouble with truancy and petty theft, which progressed to robbery. He was sent to 3 different boys schools (including Boys Town in Neb), but never for the psychiatric or psychological and social help he desperately needed.
I agree with you, but I can't say that played a part in his actions. He knew right from wrong. He felt like the world owed him something and that's not true. The world don't owe anyone anything. We have to make our own way, it's up to us what kind of life we have.
You do know that Manson wasn’t crazy and I was just an act he was weird and he was a manipulating piece of shit but he wasn’t crazy even them people part of his family said he just plays that crazy Charlie stuff to get out of stuff been doing it since he was a little kid didn’t work this time so yeah he may be a victim at one point but he became the predator
There are lots of cults like this. Manson wasn't supposed to get caught. The cops did all they could to avoid catching him. It took one of the girls confessing and then the authorities had no choice.
I’m confused I read Tex’s book online (it’s free) and he said HE carved the words war on LaBianca’s stomach. If you’re interested in these crimes read Tex’s book. Goes into detail about a lot of what happened. How Rosemary fought back, swinging the lamp at the girls which held them back until Tex entered the room 🙄. The interaction between his victims and himself. How Frykowski fought like a lion to survive. Sharon’s interaction with him. Very sad and it gives you a real insight into how bad it was.
@@P.E.G.E.80 - The title of Tex’s book is Will You Die for Me? It’s in audiobook format on RUclips. Just go to RUclips and search the title. It may be divided with certain chapters together instead of all together in one. If it’s divided it’ll tell you which chapters are covered in each section and you’ll have to look for all the sections. There are other Charlie related books available in the same way on RUclips.
This video isn't about Los Angeles during the time Manson was first in the city. This is about Manson himself. Why not have the title simply state this?
no one who has any knowledge of how newsrooms work would ever say "fake news". but it's not your fault, they don't teach it in school. but here's a brief explanation: the world is a complicated place, and newsrooms have people in them who, believe it or not, are doing their level set to tell the truth. they don't always succeed, but they always try. any time i hear the words "fake news" you know the person who said it is an idiot, a liar, or just has no idea what they're talking about. do the reading and grow up. you're part of the problem.
Danielle Rush sorry, i remember those days: that weekend of the murders, La Bianca's were over the hill from us. i remember LA was in a transition state and the pivot was that hot August weekend.
I don’t think I get why it’s such a big deal still. Obviously the murders were reprehensible but there’s gang shot callers ordering hits on a daily basis with kids and innocents getting caught in crossfire. Are people mesmerised by Manson still?
I was born on August 19, 1969. Paul, and I would be the same age. These senseless murders were horrendous. None of them saw through CM, for what her really was. I feel so sad for all their families. Not of them deserved what happened to them. Sharon Tate, was so beautiful.
Because mind control is just one of the many things that you “learn in prison”... These people have no sense of reality at all. What type of prison has she dreamed up, some type of CIA “re-education camp”? Also, that race war that Manson was talking about, and warning you about that was so bizarre to you that you didn’t bother paying any attention to, I’ve got four numbers for you, 2, 0, 2, and 0, the year the entire world turned into an endless nightmare. Music stolen from him by a very famous band, and put on their album titled 2020 of all things (not to mention the name of the song stolen), a producer screwing him around instead of getting him with some producer that COULD utilize his talent.. and then thrown in prison and left to rot for multiple murders of people that he was nowhere around at the time they were killed. All of these things happened to Manson because of the people around him. Am I saying he was a great upstanding citizen? Not at all. I am saying that he was not the mind controlling utterly evil psychopath that the people demonized him into being. If this guy could capture the minds of young people, and then proceed to control their minds and get them to do his will, so far as to murdering people, dont you think the Intelligence Agency would be all over such a guy? Think Operation Paperclip. He was given the death penalty, only to have a halt put on executions a year later, and he manages to live right up before all of this 2020 madness. Is something not off about all of this? I will part ways with this.. I try to see things through the eyes of both/all sides, and shy away from the ones that just don’t add up. What an unbelievable hand to be dealt. If you’ve read this far, congratulations! You’re an intellectual, with a great attention span. Take care!
Manson didn't have " mind control ", he was a master manipulator. Plus his "family" were mostly a group of drugged out young, naive, and easily fooled, lost kids. A perfect storm.
Has anyone wondered how Manson continued to violate his parole with numerous arrests and multiple felonies but never got violated during the months prior to tate labianca??????
@@SilverWolf89936Negative. Manson knew that record producer Terry Melcher no longer lived at the Cielo address. Not only that....but Manson knew exactly where Melcher had moved to. According to Melcher's girlfriend at the time, the actress Candace Bergen, Manson left a note at the beach house in Malibu where Terry and Candace were living at. That beach house was owned by Terry:s mother, Doris Day. Candace Bergen wrote this in her auto-bio book, Knock Wood.
so much of this story has been about the weasel & his gutless followers & not enough about the wonderful people & baby that had their lives stolen from them. this didn't just kill those innocent people in the house that night it killed their entire families. the love story of Sharon Tate & Jay Sebring has been lost in all of this. they truly loved each other & he died trying to protect her. it's still to this day the most brutal, senseless act of violence in our nations history. Tex Watson is still alive unfortunately. he's on his way to hell
I’m not sure anyone can fairly classify it as a “love story” between Jay and Sharon. They broke up, but remained friends. There was speculation he wanted to get back together with her, but he was also seeing other women. Sharon was married to Roman and she was pregnant, obviously. Who really knows what would have happened with these relationships had the murders never happened. But yes he apparently did die in the process of stepping in to get between Sharon and Tex.
Baby boomers are the most me anybody can get. My mom really told me the other day that if she doesn’t frequent a restaurant that they would close down.
Read Dave McGowan's "Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon" and Adam Gorightly's " The Shadow Over Santa Susana: Black Magic, Mind Control And The Manson Family Mythos" to gain a different perspective of this crime.
as a born n bred English UK native lived in a rural south Oxfordshire typical English village the lifestyle and entire cultural diffrence of my interpretation of L.A. is a world away from life in an English UK village! love to visit cali but I have limited means and no valid passport 😐
I was cheering because at my house they wouldn’t stand a chance! My two half Great Dane half huskies would keep them busy holding their balls while I grab my AR10 or my glock (in that day my deer rifle) and that little pea shooter they had would be a joke!
The Manson case shows how easily it is to manipulate young people especially women. Sad. Any Dad from the WWII generation would have spotted Charlie from a mile away.
In a big way he was part of the whole scene. It's interesting how things have played out and how many musicians have been inspired by him yet wont admit it. Currently American teens doing mass shootings...he spoke of the teens having this anger in them because of the parents negligence.
Yes, there's something to what you said. The narratives that were on Manson's mind are also in the minds of many today. Take Columbine for example, that's just one.
He talked about how they distracted the media with him (using him as their Jesus Christ on the cross) and it did exactly that. They ignored the LGBTQ riots in the news and the Mexican protests against the Vietnam war. And then during the trial for the Manson family the leader of the Mexican protests was killed. Then incited the zebra wars nobody wants to admit to or talk about. When the black Panthers rose and race wars began to increase more than usual in the us. Then the American Indian movement started to crumble . And now 52 something years later LOOK AT US. LOOK AT THE US. ITS STILL HAPPENING AND IT DID GET WORSE.
The kids on the outside were of pure at heart Manson was created by the system from boys school to prison he was institutionalised,jealous of other parents love for there kids .
Money, drugs and satanism. They are out trying to cashin whist as members of a satanic sub-culture of satanists on as many drugs as they can get they identify with their mad insane guru fellow satanist Mr. Fellon Charles Madson. They are of a related clothe. Likely members of the same satanic underworld subcultue as Satan's Slaves who Mr. Fellon Charles Madson tried to join and wanted to use as his criminal army. They are not Red Cross as the Red Cross organisation started a law suit against them for the use of their name so they changed their name to Redd Kross. You may need to know that the Communist Reds were a very active part in sixties California with subversive offices to fan the flames of subversive activity and anything anti-establishment. Of similar subversive cloth they likely see Madson as one of them selves or at least a subversive punk as them selves. Basically they desended the same subversive rabbit hole as Madson and believe if it is smells like shit and people buy shit. Then shit must be good or at least good subversive shit. So they can get away with trying to make money by publishing shit.
I visited LA shortly after the trial of Manson to see relatives, I’m from UK. I had read Helter Skelter which was terrifying. I couldn’t wait to get back to UK.as all in Beverly Hills were in lockdown for fear of rest of his cult were still free. I was sorry he was not put to death because over the years he became a celebrities. Please stop blaming Beatles.
The Beatles were not generally blamed by any one for the actual murders or for being the cause of those murders. But yes there has been a lot of focus on the Beatles part as Mr. Insane Charles Madson was influenced by their music, songs and lyrics. But it is clearly identified by authorities and respected people that the schizophenic crazed drugged Mason was who interpreted or misinterpreted the words to have a personal messge to himself and to his ideological racial war agenda. Clearly when two of the principle slogans written in the victims blood on walls or doors at the murder scene were from the Beatle's White Album. Then of course detectives, pyschologists and meda are going to look for the meaning or what is behind such use of Beatle lyrics (Helter Skelter & Piggies (Political Piggies')). There was a clear 'influence' of the thinking of Madson as he was an aspiring musician at a time when The Beatles were reputedly one of the world's most prestigious preformers of popular music. Millions of people arond the world bought, played and listened to Beatle music. But millions did not interpret the lyrics as some personal spritual message telling them of a pending race war and to rise up and start murdering celebrities to blame the murders on coloured people so as to lick start the mass genocidal apocalyptic war. So the mass majority of sane people today and since the sixties do not blame The Beatles. Madson had his own insane drug fueled agenda. The rise of the Black Panthers and racial inequalities in sixties USA also pre-date the release of The Beatles White Album. So any influence the White Album may have had was just an influence and not the motivation or direct cause. A breath of wind may influence a burning flame but itself is not the flame. The flames and seeds of revolutionary change in the USA sixties were already well entrenched with Californians believing they were at the forefront of the Hippy -Counter-culture movement. So millions of people were also at the same time influencing each other. But he mass majority as well as the Beatles were about Peace and ending the War in Vietnam. They were not about starting a war starting in California. So it was not the Beatles. They were just like an Icon. Not the cause but something those who would mis represent the peace movement's ideology would carry about and use as if it endorssed something which it clearly did not.
@@MikeGreenwood51 I still wonder if he hasn't acted crazy for his own enjoyment and in reality isn't crazy at all. Or at least not as much as he pretends to be.
They had something in common; they were both lazy and thought artistic skill & success comes easily. Then when it didn't, they sought blame to answer for the anger & powerlessness they felt, instead of digging deep within themselves to become better in what they desired to achieve.
I'm a lifelong Seattle resident but I was in LA for a month in 1969. I was 13. My mothers cousin was married to the guy who founded KRACO tape decks and they lived right behind universal studios. We watched them filming TV shows like gun smoke and ironsides. I yelled at raymond Burr ( RAYMOND BURR IS A PHONEY ) because he stood up from his wheelchair. He looked up at the balcony I was standing on.
Listening to these testimonies, I can’t help but notice each person’s level of self-importance. For instance, the journalists “Rona” talks about receiving death threats. The other journalists talks about being “a pretty good starer.” Also, the level that they hype the amount of “danger” as if hundreds of murders had been committed. I’m assuming this is to make it seem as though their job was that much more significant.
@Thomas Hancock There were 127 homicides in LA County in 1969. Of those, the Manson Family was responsible for 7. Manson was captured in October, 3 months after the La Bianca murders, on a grand theft auto charge. There were 143 homicides in LA County in 1970. So, 1970 was clearly a more dangerous year than 1969. But, how can that be? These journalists would have you believe that Manson was evil enough that he was responsible for all of the homicides in LA. They would also have you believe that they were in Manson’s crosshairs, when in reality, Manson was targeting celebrities and couldn’t have cared less about the media covering the killings. The fact is that these killings involved an actress in Sharon Tate, a rich coffee heiress in Abigail Folger, and a famous movie director in Roman Polanski. If Manson’s people had only killed the La Bianca’s, this case would’ve never made the national news. Journalists from this era latched on to this story for the notoriety. They never believed they were in any danger, and a majority of the public at large didn’t believe they were in any more danger than previous years. If you don’t believe that journalists exaggerate their participation in events like this to raise their stature and make themselves seem more important than they actually are, then you are the gullible audience they are looking for.
Terry Melcher"s death from cancer,Nov.!9th 2004 at 62,same day as my mother,I remember reading my moms obit and seeing his,so surreal,so sad for his mom Doris Day,her only child,but at least he didn"t get murdered by Charles Manson,and was able to have a son of his own.
One other observation from all the interviews from the participants in the murders is that other the days, weeks, months, years & decades they have all evolved as people. They have changed from who they were in 1969. From 20 year old kids to old people. They changed. All, except Charlie.
@@clarkewi Amazing...a great time to be a young adult. The sixties is often referred to as the best of times and the worst of times. I hate that I missed out on it all being that I was born in 1967. I'm glad that I can read about that special era in time. And I still can enjoy the music and documentaries.💯❤️👍
That's incredible, I graduated from high school in 2017 😅 I'm writing something very loosely inspired by it right now and just watching stuff for research but to have been there must have been surreal, I cant imagine how L.A must feel now compared to what is was like then.. what a life you have lived!
He had a raw talent that a producer like Melchner wasn't going to bother with. The way to get your music out back then was on a grass roots level. You play in the clubs, coffee shops, wherever. You let it spread organically by the people, if they dig it. It's also how you hone your craft, and hopefully, get noticed.
@husq48 - Charlie was his own worst enemy when it came to his music. He auditioned a few times and recorded in the recording studio a few times. His biggest obstacle was that he would not accept criticism constructive or otherwise. He insisted that his music be recorded exactly as he wrote it and would not allow any changes to it. He didn’t understand the process and he didn’t want to understand or participate in the process. He took his music and went home.
@@cmm2145 I agree with all that and I will add that he was lazy. This is all just my opinion but I think there’s no way he could have ever stepped up and engaged with the kind of discipline it would have taken to get a real music career going and keep it going. It was one thing to organize some harmonies with the girls around a campfire. What the industry would have demanded of him in terms of dedication, sticking to a schedule, producing material, would have been outside his abilities and his will..
He did have a raw talent watch the video on here about Charlie’s music, but he was lazy as you said, and had no understanding about the business, that being said, Dennis Wilson bought one of his songs, and changed the lyrics when they recorded it, and that made Charlie even more angry🤪
It's the easiest thing in the world to con and manipulate people. The tough thing is to be so heartless and soulless as to take advantage of that fact. Manson was one of them.
At 18, I hitchhiked from Ohio to Los Angeles at the end of 1968. I very clearly remember the Cielo Drive murders. Let me tell you, it put an end to the view of hippies (which I fancied myself at the time) as flower children, peace-loving fruitcakes. Everyone in LA was terrified.
my dad as a boy went to the manson Spahn ranch when the family was there to buy one of their horses with his dad (my grandpa). The horse was not healthy and it was emaciated and my dad said the hippy chicks were extremely dirty like they hadn't bathed in a week or 2. Crazy world (and i didn't know this but they also were robert blake's neighbors) in hidden hills
Married at in 66 and missed the whole thing (thank goodness) But l had to go to work, l lost many friends to drugs. Many who survived never really survived. It was all so sad.
These photos sure bring back memories. I grew up only a few miles from the Sunset Strip, even getting arrested in front of the Pandora's Box night club when I was only 16-years old, the subject of the big sixties protest song, "For What It's Worth," by the Buffalo Springfield, who later went on to form Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young. I had the opportunity to watch the highly touted film by Quentin Tarantino, "Once Upon A Time In Hollywood, and although he did manage to capture the "feeling" of those days quite well, I was extremely angry about how he interjected his film characters into the actual murder of Sharon Tate. To me, by trying to change history, he totally distorted the entire memory of Tate and the others who died so tragically. This horrific event was no Hollywood fairytale, it was an actual event, and I doubt if the families of these many innocent victims would have liked how he turned their deaths into a Hollywood film script. Extremely bad form, in my opinion.
You must not watch many Tarantino films. It’s essentially a running gag in many of his films to have a big turn of events whenever he’s producing a movie based off of historical incidences. It was never meant to be a documentary.
@@chriscrux4556 You missed my point. *There was no stuntman present at the Manson killings!!* My brother's friend's parents were MURDERED by the Manson gang. They left a knife sticking out of Leno LaBianca's chest. This was no minor "historical coincidence," it was Tarantino COMPLETELY changing the facts of the most heinous crime scene in LA history. If you don't know the difference, you have a very big problem.
Dennis Wilson dated Christine Mcvie of Fleetwood Mac from 77 to 80. He was Charles Mansons best friend once. I wonder if he told her stories about Charlie.
@@andrewb9708 it may be that way because people gravitate to where they can be homeless. you have to put in an effort to make something of yourself, not just hang out and do drugs until you are too old to change. Los Angeles has a THRIVING middle class, largely of immigrants who work hard and have made it for themselves. Its not just the downtown and strip areas - its a huge city with varying neighborhoods.
My friend and I saw Manson and two topless girls wearing blue jeans dancing on the end of a jetty just south of Temescal Canyon in Pacific Palisades, CA . in the late 60's. I can still see it because we saw the topless girls and as teenagers got as close as we could to them, they were dancing around Manson with their arms above their heads, looked cool at the time. At that point we did not know it was Manson for sure but a few days later confirmed it when we came across 40-50 dead and sacrificed animals on the beach, some headless some with their throats slit. There were many birds, a few goats and other animals I don't remember what they were. It was weird and a bit frightening to say the least. When I got home I told my mother, she called the cops so there may be a record of it.
You are sooooo full of shit. It’s widely known that while the Family had no regard for human life, they had a no harm to animals policy. Everyone wants to be a part of this case in the worst way. I find it humorous. Get a life!
Did you need to take drugs to form this opinion? Are you naturally this way? Are you on medications to help? Are you aware there are medications available to help? Do you even want help? Crisis line, dude.... Crisis line.....(You,too, 12 thumbs up)
Come on everyone knows Manson was an mk ultra agent. Huge part of mk ultra was to see if they could create soldiers that could kill with no remorse or fear, so they sent Charlie at, when he was able to get 20 year hippie girls to kill pregnant women with no remorse it was a huge ✔️ for the programme. they also say Saddam had weapons of mass destruction n Anna Nicole married for love. The jfk job was a really bad one to take, the boys who did that were dead n buried in the desert 6 hours later. STILL GOT THE SHOVEL.
I feel like this publicity contributed to the Beatles breakup which happened just a few months later. Also interesting is that Bad Moon Rising was a song also on the charts at the time of the murders
@@shadowwolf7622 I don't believe Helter Skelter was the main motive-i think it was a thread that ran through Charlie's sermons to the family that Bugliosi picked up on so he could get the press to pump the circus up and eventually sell millions of books. As far as percentages of truth goes, Tex was definitely there (most unfortunately) and he has nothing to gain by stating this so i'm gonna go with what he says on this particular matter,
@@out99990 I agree with you on the Helter Skelter idea. It was way over blown by the State. I've went down a lot of rabbit holes studying Manson and the family. I believe the killings on both nights were over drugs. I think Watson was on a mission to steal drugs to get money, to bail Bobby out of jail. From my studies, the Tate house was the families main drug connection. And the LaBiancas were their dealers. I believe it started out as a robbery, not murder. But, no drugs were found at Tate's, and Watson went off on a speed induced frenzy. I also believe some were left alive, tied up. After returning back and telling Manson of the circumstances, Manson returned back with Watson and finished off the survivors and altered the scene.
and soon followed the heyday of serial killers, 1974 was when the term was coined. before dna and cameras were everywhere serial killers could go for decades without being caught, you had to have a survivor, eyewitness, or catch them in the act. idk how much of that sickness was inspired by the manson family.
These women rhapsodizing about the '60's. None of then received a draft notice at the end of 1969, like I did. For a Southeast Asian vacation-all expenses paid. Terry Melcher. What a life. Only remembered as the son of Doris Day, and being the tenant Charlie was really looking for at the Altobelli house.
I appreciate and respect your service. Mr. Altobelli really turned out to be a stand up guy. Sharons father Paul Tate had to clean up all the gore and mess left following the murders and subsequent investigation. Altobelli had his lawyer threaten them with legal action of some sort very shortly after they were buried. So a father was forced to clean up his daughter's blood...and Jays...and Voyteks...and Abigails.
Jesus these wemon need to suffer for what they did. Stop blaming Manson. No one can make someone do something. If that was the case everyone would murder after a compliment. Those wemon should pay too
Manson killed the 60's and he is dead and he is probbaly dancing with the devil right about now! Charles Manson was a sicko and so were his followers. The 60's were groovy but he killed it. Sharon Tate was the last to die! She had such a promising career. So sad she died. I liked her in Dance Of The Vampires, Valley Of The Dolls, So much has changed and Sharon Tate's house is no longer there! RIP SHARON TATE!
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I think it's obscene that a thrill killer like Charles 'Tex' Watson is allowed to marry and have children when he deprived Sharron Tate of that very same privilege. Where's the justice in that?
Agreed. Thank the democrats for that. They were all supposed to be max security until put to death. Then the libs came n got rid of the death penalty, let them have lives with the outside world n gave them parole hearings. Unbelievable. Imagine how scared linda was...knowing one of em might get out n still be wacked n come for u via direct order from charlie.
Wait he went to a cali prison though right? Even though he was in texas ...i forgot
Either you bring him to death or you lock him up, but then treat him like a human being. If you don't, you're not better than them who killed Sharon Tate and all the others.
Life for murderers is bullshit. & the judges meed to do their damn jobs . start putting them down like the dogs they all. Are. Then the rest if the people who want to murder wont do it ..see how fast this murdering n rapes stops..if you dont agree with me
.too damn bad.
@@erichgrunberg8396 what if it was your family members slaughtered & a baby too..thats what i thought..
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*1969* ‘So much weird going on. So much weird’.
*2020* Same
At least the hippies are gone.
Samael Azazel someone need to take Economy 101. I gather you don’t know what communism is.
Sara you don’t know what either liberalism or communism is if you conflate the two.
Sara communism is an economic theory. Countries like the former Soviet Union used the theory to seize power from the aristocracy. In other words they replaced one dictatorship with another and the common person wasn’t any better off. That isn’t liberalism. What that is is more right wing thuggery.
Yea but now people are too self absorbed with their phones, no real connection, no spirit
nothing more potentially dangerous than a poorly raised child.
So true , I observed it so many times when I was growing up.
Yip
And the CIA running their mind control experiments MK Ultra
Yes yes
Well said. Society pays for that on a daily basis.
LOOK HOW CLEAN THE PEOPLE AND THE CITY WAS. NOW, JUST A GIANT GARBAGE DUMP.
Maybe you should go clean it up.☯️
Democratic cities tend to get run down
ooooh garbage dump ooooh garbage dump
The air resembled Beijing back then.
Nobby Barnes it’s reliably true though
Thanks for putting out this great piece of journalism.
I have lived in LA my entire 63 year life. My dad was an LAPD homicide detective during this time, and I can tell you, only 3 crimes that I can remember caused actual fear to the average person in Los Angeles. The Hillside Stranglers (1977-1978), The Night Stalker (Richard Ramirez) 1985 and Manson. In todays world, this might be a one day news story. In 1969 this was unheard of. It was the day Los Angeles lost whatever innocence it may have had.
I hear what your saying Phil and 99% agree. The murders you mentioned were up close & personal & savage. I'm 62, my dad was also a sheriff..what I see now is the obvious gun issue. Columbine, a Florida gay club, a Las Vegas outdoor concert, a Colorado movie theater ect...the easy way to obtain firearms so some mentally I'll person can slaughter people is insane.
I do not think these would merely be a 1 day news story in todays world. Fewer crimes before yes but we haven't become desensitized.
LA didn't ever have much innocence. I grew up in California and spent my time with my dads family in Hollywood. And there were many things to fear there. But he didn't do it. Read Tom O Neil's book
@@carolynnmarie5716 Aaaaand koo koo for Cocao Puffs time has entered the discussion. Read Tome O'Niels book? lmao hahahaha
Fear and loathing, the high water mark, the acid wave finally broke, with the right kind of eyes you can see the high water mark on the hillside of Vegas
A lot of these shots of young folk partying, were actually filmed at a Rolling Stones free concert in 1969 in Hyde park, London. A long way from LA...
Thats actually wicked annoying 💀 wtf
@@lindsayhall5285 no shit
WHO CARES
You mean this film is full of lies??? Nooooo, cant fathom that perception being fruitful
Ever heard of Woodstock?
Manson was just a product of the American penal system, those were his values, he was never a hippie.
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Sorry but I totally agree with the statement read Charlie’s real life story not the bull shit psychology cack! It’s no wonder he went crazy he’s a product of his environment
@@MrChezlor Listen to what family members have to say. Charlie was never right. Its why he was put into institutions. No one could handle him.
Used the hippie movement to create a group (family) like a cult to do crazy and terrible acts. Manson was a crazy sick criminal.
@@chriscorvin5077 YES ! Exactly these people don’t realize that it’s the government people love to think that one person can control so many nope MK Ultra . This show is a BS to try to explain to simpletons what’s really going on.
We felt the same way in 79, we knew everything and now I realize we new nothing
Happy to hear that!!
Same will be in 2029 ...
Young people know nothing every decade.
It's really sad with Steven Parent as he was the youngest adult killed up there, yet is usually never even mentioned since he was just an average kid from a middle class family.
It's especially sad because of the fact that Steven Parent had absolutely nothing to do with Manson or his cult. He was just in the wrong place at the wrong time.
they were all young
I agree, if that my was son I'd be upset. He had a life to and was just as important! Poor kid, wrong place wrong time.
I agree that Steven Parent gets overlooked. I also think Sharon’s baby should be counted. The baby was full term and could have survived if he was born early. That makes the count 8 people died.
Talk about absolute bad luck. Meets the caretaker less than 48 hrs, gets an invitation to visit, and has an untimely death. That poor young man. Much sadness for those that loved him.
I rode a Triumph 650 Bonneville through the canyons of L.A. through Hollywood and Beverly Hills at that time. Wish I could go back in time via a time machine.
You have a time machine. Use it anytime you want.
How wonderfully cool
if time machine was there we could revive all of those victims
Drugs may not be the answer but they do make the question more interesting.
Such blanket statements are usually uttered by stupid people.
What do they do for intelligent people?
I have found psychedelic drugs have been a way to engage with the world, not disengage.
@Jesse well thats because booze *is* a drug
@Jesse but the legality is irrelevant to what you were saying. unless im a fuckin idiot and there's something obvious im missing lol
@Jesse Your initial statement can easily be interpreted as saying that anyone who uses drugs or booze is stupid and that the use of said drugs, even if fun at the time, makes those stupid people more stupid, leading to guilt and regret.
I am pleased you did not intend for it to be read that way.
This is the best comment nicely done
I don’t know why some people thought Charlie was so charming and smart. He seemed like a nut case to me.
i all ways thought he was a clever guy with his quick fire answers . but that dosnt mean a cool guy. tex and suzi though were complete fokin nuts.
Jail made him like that. Institutions, man
@@lynnjackson8367 that’s exactly how he would say it🤣
He might have been a victim of the MK-Ultra program
@Std Disclaimer, you need to learn how to read. He didn't say he was a victim of mind control.
He said he might have been a victim of mind control which is true.
I was 15 years old. I almost ran away from home in Everett Washington to go to Woodstock. What he influenced was the opposite of the direction society was going in.
can you tell us more about your experience? I'd love to know more. I'm reading the book Chaos by Tom O'Neill
My college roommate turned 15 in spring, 69. His family lived off Beverly Glen and one morning he woke up and his little brother (maybe 7 or 8) was in his bed. Kid said he had woken up because people were in the house. Being scared he went to his brother's room. They checked but nothing was missing although a back door had been left unlocked. They thought nothing more of it until much later when at the Tate LaBianca trial it came out that the Family had creepy crawled through people's houses late at night.
That is weird. People left doors unlocked back then.
Riiiiight. Everybody wants there 15 minutes…
Scary...indeed.
Apparently the Manson family would sneak into people's houses and rearrange the furniture and leave. Creepy
@@Ashes_Unto_Roses Crawling.
I remember this like it was yesterday, I was 9 years old and my mom wouldn't let me out of the yard, no playing outside until the street lights came on ! I remember being scared but not because of what happened because I don't think I really understood any of it yet . No I was scared because my mom and Aunt were scared, at night my mom wouldn't go sleep in her bedroom, she was a divorcee raising me, and it was just my Mom and I, so anyway she would sleep on the couch with a very large butcher knife in her hand, and that's what scared me the most !! What really took hold of me and I started to really understand was the trial I think every house in Los Angeles county was glued to the TV, waiting to see whatever they could. The big wake up call for me was learning where the found Charlie hiding, he was a little man and they found him hiding in the cupboards of the Barker Ranch, the lady I called Aunt, (wasn't by blood) was my Mom's best friend and her Daughter was mine, still is to this day, and their last name is Barker, her uncle owned the Ranch, and we used to go there in the summer. There were hippie's hanging around with a lot of small children and I remember having the best time !! We didn't really go their after that, but I will never forget !!
Naw.
Right
Woah. Did your visits to Spahn ranch coincide with the years the family were there?
@@thethrowawaythatstayed7055 He said Barker Ranch. Different places. Manson and his followers went there after the murders.
Marcia Young ‘and her daughter was mine’. What age were you? You come across as a bit of a psycho, my friend.
This happened with weekend of my 10th birthday which was August 10th! While I was young I totally grasped the awfulness of what had happened. I was already well aware of Sharon Tate's popularity and had seen Valley of the Dolls. I've probably watched Once Upon A Time In Hollywood 25 times because I can't stop wishing that is how that night would have ended.
I am in awe of you for having seen Valley of the Dolls by ten. Your mom must have been cool!
Gyty
Every time I watch Once Upon A Time In Hollywood I always cry at the ending, because I think to myself, if only it had happened that way in real life.
That was a fantastic movie, we all wish was true. Definitely worth seeing a time or two!
My parents let me watch or read whatever was around. Looking back I think, yeah that's cool but some boundaries would've suited me much better.
The 70s was a magical time in many ways yet it hurt a lot of us too. Kids need structure and rules first.
its funny i was ten yrs old that summer also but i don't remember a god damn thing about this asshole or the killings, of course i grew up on the east coast
If Manson really wanted to sing, he should've kept on knocking on doors instead of going out on a killing spree. Many big time artists struggled very much before they got their first opportunity.
Narcissism. He couldnt let his ego seem stepped on in front of the family. Pure sociopathic retaliation.
Like adolf
He couldn't sing....
@@alicetee7020 and didn't kill
He just wanted to be famous right he didn't care how
This is well done. Talented editing.
He lived in the world of Drugs total rebellion against the establishment and was not crazy he played people and dogged all responsibility..He played everyone in the interviews. He was honest when he said I'm nobody
he came from prison, he was already of the anti establishment mindset lmao.
Great documentary. I grew up in So Cal in the 60s. LA was a magical place. And the music was a big part of the magic.
Now theres homeless and poop everywhere. I wonder what happened.
I too grew up there in Canoga Park. In fact, when I was a kid I'd ride my bike to the Alpha Beta market at Woodlake and Saticoy and I saw some of the Manson girls dumpster diving behind the market. When I rode my bike past the girls were nice, said "hi", etc.
My Mom used to also play Yahtzee at our next door neighbors house once or twice a month and they'd play all night. So one night they're playing and my Mom was facing the sliding glass door and said she saw a girls face peering in at them. She looked at her friend, starting telling her "there's a girl in your back yard" but when she looked back the face was gone. They went to the sliding glass door (the neighbor had a gun) and my Mom said dogs were barking in the block walled back yards and then they heard giggling. My Mom always thought it may have been some of the Manson girls out "creepy crawling" as they said they did at night sometimes.
@@laurabell09 wow, you could have joined the gang.
Magic is evil.its all connected.the dark arts the beatles manson melcher tate polanski child sacrifice !!!!##rosemarys baby..!#!# helllloooooo.the beatles wete followers of who ???? Alistar crowley .the beast
KRLA Ruled!
He simply told ppl what they wanted to hear ...
Manson Was a Clear in Scientology... Possibly Even Part of an Offshoot Called The Process Church & They're Rumored to be Heavily Involved in The Son of Sam an Smiley Face Killings
The CIA does lol --- Tom O'Neill and Joe Rogan. Enjoy it.
@@CelticBadBoyPoet7 whew you aint right in the head
That's how they do it.
That's the secret of brain washing giving people what they want to hear once he said what their were thinking and feeling they choose to follow him for that reason.
00:04 dude just ran a red light (and reeeally slowly too! :)
I saw that also. Straight up RAN IT. Dude rolled up while it was yellow, than after it went red he rolled on thru. No cops around....luck!
Bob Dobalina/I didn't notice that until you pointed it out. What kind of car was that...very cool!!!
God the world has become retarded
Nowadays he would be getting a ticket through the mail lol
No cop no stop 🤷🏻♂️
I graduated Taft high school near Topanga Canyon 1969 and saw it all go down.
For me it is impossible to separate the Manson story and the Altamont concert. They were 4 months apart and it was the end of an era.
Both based in race issues at it's heart
no it wasnt, look around you today. legalization of drugs, "free love" everywhere, extreme left equality and "love" measures. the 60s is what began it all. It just looked more tame then, because it was kids who had been brought up by a generation that had espoused christianity. Its more out of control now because Christianity continues to fade, like a dying ember.
@@markfrost2707 ...no, both based selfishness and pride
Just your friendly reminder that acid doesn't cause people to do this 👀
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Lol if you feed people enough of it they will eventually start questioning reality and this guy was sober giving them suggestion that there is no wrong or right that we are gods and I know plenty of people who would fall for that kind of mind set all of them dope heads drugs is witchcraft I've seen people use peyote and play a Ouija board and start telling me things about my life that no body could know so you think what you want but all of that crap opens doors to the spiritual realm and all that come through is demonic influences
@@99WingedTigers lmao I'm wrong but drugs are witchcraft? Lmao
Pharmacy in greek means witchcraft, poison, drugs I'm not saying all medicines are witchcraft but I've seen alot of drugs destroy people's life and hallucinogens used in rituals for witchcraft. you dont believe me because you havent experienced it but hey I've been around I know what I'm talking about.
@@99WingedTigers I have experienced the "spiritual" on drugs, dude. It was because I was fuckin high. I've done peyote, acid, salvia, mushroom. I do know what you mean, just because I'm not drinking the paranormal Kool-Aid as the explanation doesn't mean I don't get it. Just because you can't explain an experience on drugs, doesn't mean it's a paranormal experience. Your friend could tell you things about yourself because sometimes you're more insightful and thoughtful on drugs. I already knew that's what "pharmacy" means and it's because pharmaceuticals come from alchemy. Doesn't mean it's witchcraft.
Charlie Mason is the result of a society that failed to treat the most outcast, not because of the "peace and love" generation. Ever since elementary school Manson got in trouble with truancy and petty theft, which progressed to robbery. He was sent to 3 different boys schools (including Boys Town in Neb), but never for the psychiatric or psychological and social help he desperately needed.
I agree with you, but I can't say that played a part in his actions. He knew right from wrong. He felt like the world owed him something and that's not true. The world don't owe anyone anything. We have to make our own way, it's up to us what kind of life we have.
he was bad news
Yesss he's a victim
You do know that Manson wasn’t crazy and I was just an act he was weird and he was a manipulating piece of shit but he wasn’t crazy even them people part of his family said he just plays that crazy Charlie stuff to get out of stuff been doing it since he was a little kid didn’t work this time so yeah he may be a victim at one point but he became the predator
Once upon time in Hollywood brought me here
Jack Sparrow . Watch the movie Charlie says.
@@flyingbob297 why?
That movie sucked ass
@@shermigz It was such a gem 😌
There are lots of cults like this. Manson wasn't supposed to get caught. The cops did all they could to avoid catching him. It took one of the girls confessing and then the authorities had no choice.
True
I’m confused I read Tex’s book online (it’s free) and he said HE carved the words war on LaBianca’s stomach. If you’re interested in these crimes read Tex’s book. Goes into detail about a lot of what happened. How Rosemary fought back, swinging the lamp at the girls which held them back until Tex entered the room 🙄. The interaction between his victims and himself. How Frykowski fought like a lion to survive. Sharon’s interaction with him. Very sad and it gives you a real insight into how bad it was.
How Awful. 😕
How awful did meow🤔
Yeah theirs a lot of bs in this
How can I find that book on Google??
@@P.E.G.E.80 - The title of Tex’s book is Will You Die for Me? It’s in audiobook format on RUclips. Just go to RUclips and search the title. It may be divided with certain chapters together instead of all together in one. If it’s divided it’ll tell you which chapters are covered in each section and you’ll have to look for all the sections. There are other Charlie related books available in the same way on RUclips.
Note: "The White Album" is kind of a nickname for the album. It's actually named "The Beatles."
Just like the black album with metallica who is just "Metallica"
This video isn't about Los Angeles during the time Manson was first in the city. This is about Manson himself. Why not have the title simply state this?
Because it’s the L.A. Times which usually means Fake News!!!
no one who has any knowledge of how newsrooms work would ever say "fake news". but it's not your fault, they don't teach it in school. but here's a brief explanation: the world is a complicated place, and newsrooms have people in them who, believe it or not, are doing their level set to tell the truth. they don't always succeed, but they always try. any time i hear the words "fake news" you know the person who said it is an idiot, a liar, or just has no idea what they're talking about. do the reading and grow up. you're part of the problem.
Not the first time. Come on they want to mislead you. MEDIA. FEAR AND CONSUME THAT'S THEIR THING
Danielle Rush sorry, i remember those days: that weekend of the murders, La Bianca's were over the hill from us. i remember LA was in a transition state and the pivot was that hot August weekend.
LA is the backdrop. It's where Manson pursued his music career, failed, became homeless, started his cult, and began his infamous murder spree at.
Well done documentary
Sober retrospective.
It barely skimmed the surface; but, what'd you expect in half an hour?
I don’t think I get why it’s such a big deal still. Obviously the murders were reprehensible but there’s gang shot callers ordering hits on a daily basis with kids and innocents getting caught in crossfire. Are people mesmerised by Manson still?
I was born on August 19, 1969. Paul, and I would be the same age. These senseless murders were horrendous. None of them saw through CM, for what her really was. I feel so sad for all their families. Not of them deserved what happened to them. Sharon Tate, was so beautiful.
Charlie was a pimp.
thanks
Charles Manson lmao
@@charlesmanson4686 ha
he was a simp too
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Because mind control is just one of the many things that you “learn in prison”... These people have no sense of reality at all. What type of prison has she dreamed up, some type of CIA “re-education camp”?
Also, that race war that Manson was talking about, and warning you about that was so bizarre to you that you didn’t bother paying any attention to, I’ve got four numbers for you, 2, 0, 2, and 0, the year the entire world turned into an endless nightmare.
Music stolen from him by a very famous band, and put on their album titled 2020 of all things (not to mention the name of the song stolen), a producer screwing him around instead of getting him with some producer that COULD utilize his talent.. and then thrown in prison and left to rot for multiple murders of people that he was nowhere around at the time they were killed. All of these things happened to Manson because of the people around him. Am I saying he was a great upstanding citizen? Not at all. I am saying that he was not the mind controlling utterly evil psychopath that the people demonized him into being. If this guy could capture the minds of young people, and then proceed to control their minds and get them to do his will, so far as to murdering people, dont you think the Intelligence Agency would be all over such a guy? Think Operation Paperclip. He was given the death penalty, only to have a halt put on executions a year later, and he manages to live right up before all of this 2020 madness. Is something not off about all of this?
I will part ways with this.. I try to see things through the eyes of both/all sides, and shy away from the ones that just don’t add up. What an unbelievable hand to be dealt.
If you’ve read this far, congratulations! You’re an intellectual, with a great attention span. Take care!
Manson didn't have " mind control ", he was a master manipulator. Plus his "family" were mostly a group of drugged out young, naive, and easily fooled, lost kids. A perfect storm.
That was well written. Bless you.
Has anyone wondered how Manson continued to violate his parole with numerous arrests and multiple felonies but never got violated during the months prior to tate labianca??????
Guy Saccardo watch the joe Rogan podcast with Tom O’Neill
Yes! Who was he really? What program was Manson a part of? Who was this Reeve Whitson? Many questions
He lost his mind when he wasn’t offered a record deal.
This. I also think that he, for some reason, thought the producer who refused him would be in Tate’s home that night.
@@SilverWolf89936Negative. Manson knew that record producer Terry Melcher no longer lived at the Cielo address. Not only that....but Manson knew exactly where Melcher had moved to.
According to Melcher's girlfriend at the time, the actress Candace Bergen, Manson left a note at the beach house in Malibu where Terry and Candace were living at. That beach house was owned by Terry:s mother, Doris Day.
Candace Bergen wrote this in her auto-bio book, Knock Wood.
so much of this story has been about the weasel & his gutless followers & not enough about the wonderful people & baby that had their lives stolen from them. this didn't just kill those innocent people in the house that night it killed their entire families. the love story of Sharon Tate & Jay Sebring has been lost in all of this. they truly loved each other & he died trying to protect her. it's still to this day the most brutal, senseless act of violence in our nations history. Tex Watson is still alive unfortunately. he's on his way to hell
I thought she was married to a film maker out of town? But she loves Jay S.,?
How do you know what God will do? You have to leave it to God re:Texas W. Or anybody else.
there is a special place n in the depths of hell waiting for him. Jesus can't even save him
I’m not sure anyone can fairly classify it as a “love story” between Jay and Sharon. They broke up, but remained friends. There was speculation he wanted to get back together with her, but he was also seeing other women. Sharon was married to Roman and she was pregnant, obviously. Who really knows what would have happened with these relationships had the murders never happened. But yes he apparently did die in the process of stepping in to get between Sharon and Tex.
Yeah they were great people Roman Polanski is a pedophile
I used to think millennials were the me me generation but the baby boomers started the me me
Don't you think it's an aspect of human nature everyone has it in them?
Baby boomers are the most me anybody can get. My mom really told me the other day that if she doesn’t frequent a restaurant that they would close down.
Hi, everybody. A bonafide GenXer here. Anyways, we're just as self-centered as the rest of you
@@MayorMcCheeseStalker LOL stop
@Sicarri ! Yesiree
Who in hell are the two creeps on the couch who keep putting their two sense in thru this video!?! Freaky weird!!
Read Dave McGowan's "Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon" and Adam Gorightly's " The Shadow Over Santa Susana: Black Magic, Mind Control And The Manson Family Mythos" to gain a different perspective of this crime.
you might have named your video, "LA in The Time of Sharon Tate".
as a born n bred English UK native lived in a rural south Oxfordshire typical English village the lifestyle and entire cultural diffrence of my interpretation of L.A. is a world away from life in an English UK village! love to visit cali but I have limited means and no valid passport 😐
The video starts with someone running a red light 😂😂
Too bad it didn't turn out like once upon a time in Hollywood man that would have been great.
What happened? I haven’t saw it yet
@@sorethumbs379 opposite of what really happens … and they’re is a pit bull and a flamethrower
I was cheering because at my house they wouldn’t stand a chance! My two half Great Dane half huskies would keep them busy holding their balls while I grab my AR10 or my glock (in that day my deer rifle) and that little pea shooter they had would be a joke!
Much more insightful watching interview of Manson than the people that are pontificating about him.
Until watching this I was lucky never to have been exposed to Red Kross. I am now determined to avoid them in the future.
Why??
What if there is an emergency like a flood or an earthquake wouldn't feel safe knowing they were there to help you and your loves ones?
Listen to Jimmy's Fantasy, it's a really good rock song.
That woman never could've imagined how much that record would be someday. STRAIGHT From the range itself.
21:29 its always sad, spooky and strangely sweet to hear the girls talk, particularly Nancy
The Manson case shows how easily it is to manipulate young people especially women. Sad. Any Dad from the WWII generation would have spotted Charlie from a mile away.
In a big way he was part of the whole scene.
It's interesting how things have played out and how many musicians have been inspired by him yet wont admit it. Currently American teens doing mass shootings...he spoke of the teens having this anger in them because of the parents negligence.
Yes, there's something to what you said. The narratives that were on Manson's mind are also in the minds of many today. Take Columbine for example, that's just one.
@@rollydoucet8909 exactly bullying accepted in society eventually speaks in radical ways.
He talked about how they distracted the media with him (using him as their Jesus Christ on the cross) and it did exactly that. They ignored the LGBTQ riots in the news and the Mexican protests against the Vietnam war. And then during the trial for the Manson family the leader of the Mexican protests was killed. Then incited the zebra wars nobody wants to admit to or talk about. When the black Panthers rose and race wars began to increase more than usual in the us. Then the American Indian movement started to crumble . And now 52 something years later LOOK AT US. LOOK AT THE US. ITS STILL HAPPENING AND IT DID GET WORSE.
The kids on the outside were of pure at heart Manson was created by the system from boys school to prison he was institutionalised,jealous of other parents love for there kids .
@@barryscotland250 there has been an anger brewing with youth. No pure of heart youth will do any sort of murder much less mass murder.
What does Red Cross have to do with the story? Because they covered Charlie’s $hit and exploited his image?
Money, drugs and satanism. They are out trying to cashin whist as members of a satanic sub-culture of satanists on as many drugs as they can get they identify with their mad insane guru fellow satanist Mr. Fellon Charles Madson. They are of a related clothe. Likely members of the same satanic underworld subcultue as Satan's Slaves who Mr. Fellon Charles Madson tried to join and wanted to use as his criminal army. They are not Red Cross as the Red Cross organisation started a law suit against them for the use of their name so they changed their name to Redd Kross.
You may need to know that the Communist Reds were a very active part in sixties California with subversive offices to fan the flames of subversive activity and anything anti-establishment. Of similar subversive cloth they likely see Madson as one of them selves or at least a subversive punk as them selves. Basically they desended the same subversive rabbit hole as Madson and believe if it is smells like shit and people buy shit. Then shit must be good or at least good subversive shit. So they can get away with trying to make money by publishing shit.
no.i dont dig what youre saying!!!
I visited LA shortly after the trial of Manson to see relatives, I’m from UK. I had read Helter Skelter which was terrifying. I couldn’t wait to get back to UK.as all in Beverly Hills were in lockdown for fear of rest of his cult were still free. I was sorry he was not put to death because over the years he became a celebrities. Please stop blaming Beatles.
🤦♂️literally no one blames The Beatles.😂
The Beatles were not generally blamed by any one for the actual murders or for being the cause of those murders. But yes there has been a lot of focus on the Beatles part as Mr. Insane Charles Madson was influenced by their music, songs and lyrics. But it is clearly identified by authorities and respected people that the schizophenic crazed drugged Mason was who interpreted or misinterpreted the words to have a personal messge to himself and to his ideological racial war agenda. Clearly when two of the principle slogans written in the victims blood on walls or doors at the murder scene were from the Beatle's White Album. Then of course detectives, pyschologists and meda are going to look for the meaning or what is behind such use of Beatle lyrics (Helter Skelter & Piggies (Political Piggies')). There was a clear 'influence' of the thinking of Madson as he was an aspiring musician at a time when The Beatles were reputedly one of the world's most prestigious preformers of popular music. Millions of people arond the world bought, played and listened to Beatle music. But millions did not interpret the lyrics as some personal spritual message telling them of a pending race war and to rise up and start murdering celebrities to blame the murders on coloured people so as to lick start the mass genocidal apocalyptic war.
So the mass majority of sane people today and since the sixties do not blame The Beatles. Madson had his own insane drug fueled agenda. The rise of the Black Panthers and racial inequalities in sixties USA also pre-date the release of The Beatles White Album. So any influence the White Album may have had was just an influence and not the motivation or direct cause. A breath of wind may influence a burning flame but itself is not the flame. The flames and seeds of revolutionary change in the USA sixties were already well entrenched with Californians believing they were at the forefront of the Hippy -Counter-culture movement. So millions of people were also at the same time influencing each other. But he mass majority as well as the Beatles were about Peace and ending the War in Vietnam. They were not about starting a war starting in California. So it was not the Beatles. They were just like an Icon. Not the cause but something those who would mis represent the peace movement's ideology would carry about and use as if it endorssed something which it clearly did not.
he was schizophrenic??
@@MikeGreenwood51 I still wonder if he hasn't acted crazy for his own enjoyment and in reality isn't crazy at all. Or at least not as much as he pretends to be.
the Beatles suck. and the beach boys too.
Damn I went down a rabbit hole googling the guy missing an ear in this video
UPDATE: Missing ear guy reportedly was used my Manson to listen to his "great music"
AAANNNDDDD? no update?
C'mon sis fill us innnn
He was in the church of Satan. Think he was married to Zeena lavey for a while. Anton laveys daughter.
he's a white supremacist and manson apologetic. bleh
And then Altamont put the final nail in the coffin of the hippy movement.
It was already the beginning of the end 50 yrs ago.
Being a failed musician really drove him crazy
maybe similar to Hitler being a failed artist; was not accepted into art school in Vienna
They had something in common; they were both lazy and thought artistic skill & success comes easily. Then when it didn't, they sought blame to answer for the anger & powerlessness they felt, instead of digging deep within themselves to become better in what they desired to achieve.
@@PraiseMedusa Very well said.
yeah, and you formed a cult and "made" a bunch of people commit murder..
Ha ha! Twat and talentless! Cheers! X
I'm a lifelong Seattle resident but I was in LA for a month in 1969. I was 13. My mothers cousin was married to the guy who founded KRACO tape decks and they lived right behind universal studios. We watched them filming TV shows like gun smoke and ironsides. I yelled at raymond Burr ( RAYMOND BURR IS A PHONEY ) because he stood up from his wheelchair. He looked up at the balcony I was standing on.
The guy was a cult leader no mistake, he brainwashed his followers.
Listening to these testimonies, I can’t help but notice each person’s level of self-importance. For instance, the journalists “Rona” talks about receiving death threats. The other journalists talks about being “a pretty good starer.” Also, the level that they hype the amount of “danger” as if hundreds of murders had been committed. I’m assuming this is to make it seem as though their job was that much more significant.
We get it. You hate confident women.
Lol ikr. "I think i was the first journalist up there" oooo look at me 🙄😑
@@sammavacaist nah man they are really seriously showing off
@Thomas Hancock I have. And not one time did I see where any journalists were in danger or close to the criminals.
@Thomas Hancock There were 127 homicides in LA County in 1969. Of those, the Manson Family was responsible for 7. Manson was captured in October, 3 months after the La Bianca murders, on a grand theft auto charge. There were 143 homicides in LA County in 1970. So, 1970 was clearly a more dangerous year than 1969. But, how can that be? These journalists would have you believe that Manson was evil enough that he was responsible for all of the homicides in LA. They would also have you believe that they were in Manson’s crosshairs, when in reality, Manson was targeting celebrities and couldn’t have cared less about the media covering the killings.
The fact is that these killings involved an actress in Sharon Tate, a rich coffee heiress in Abigail Folger, and a famous movie director in Roman Polanski. If Manson’s people had only killed the La Bianca’s, this case would’ve never made the national news. Journalists from this era latched on to this story for the notoriety. They never believed they were in any danger, and a majority of the public at large didn’t believe they were in any more danger than previous years. If you don’t believe that journalists exaggerate their participation in events like this to raise their stature and make themselves seem more important than they actually are, then you are the gullible audience they are looking for.
Charles Manson had a severe case of short mans disease also known as Naploeanic complex.
ManSon Rising you must be short 😬
The weirdest part of this whole thing is that all these people are so excited to be a part of it all these years later.
No your not listening people are telling truth on this terrible story. Its how it is .
$$$$
Terry Melcher"s death from cancer,Nov.!9th 2004 at 62,same day as my mother,I remember reading my moms obit and seeing his,so surreal,so sad for his mom Doris Day,her only child,but at least he didn"t get murdered by Charles Manson,and was able to have a son of his own.
One other observation from all the interviews from the participants in the murders is that other the days, weeks, months, years & decades they have all evolved as people. They have changed from who they were in 1969. From 20 year old kids to old people. They changed. All, except Charlie.
Jean Stapleton the journalist was my journalist teacher at ELAC. She said her first job as a journalist was interviewing Manson.
Funny. She doesn’t look like Edith Bunker.
I graduated high school in LA 1969. Saw all this go down up close and personal.
Wow. You were there.👍
@@soso8824 Yes. Sleeping in my VW van in Topanga Canyon. Hot night.
@@clarkewi Amazing...a great time to be a young adult.
The sixties is often referred to as the best of times and the worst of times.
I hate that I missed out on it all being that I was born in 1967.
I'm glad that I can read about that special era in time. And I still can enjoy the music and documentaries.💯❤️👍
@@soso8824 What's the Chinese curse: "May you be born in interesting times...." I guess I was....
That's incredible, I graduated from high school in 2017 😅
I'm writing something very loosely inspired by it right now and just watching stuff for research but to have been there must have been surreal, I cant imagine how L.A must feel now compared to what is was like then.. what a life you have lived!
He had a raw talent that a producer like Melchner wasn't going to bother with. The way to get your music out back then was on a grass roots level. You play in the clubs, coffee shops, wherever. You let it spread organically by the people, if they dig it. It's also how you hone your craft, and hopefully, get noticed.
@husq48 - Charlie was his own worst enemy when it came to his music. He auditioned a few times and recorded in the recording studio a few times. His biggest obstacle was that he would not accept criticism constructive or otherwise. He insisted that his music be recorded exactly as he wrote it and would not allow any changes to it. He didn’t understand the process and he didn’t want to understand or participate in the process. He took his music and went home.
@@cmm2145 I agree with all that and I will add that he was lazy. This is all just my opinion but I think there’s no way he could have ever stepped up and engaged with the kind of discipline it would have taken to get a real music career going and keep it going. It was one thing to organize some harmonies with the girls around a campfire. What the industry would have demanded of him in terms of dedication, sticking to a schedule, producing material, would have been outside his abilities and his will..
@@EastSide-qc5oy - I completely agree.
He did have a raw talent watch the video on here about Charlie’s music, but he was lazy as you said, and had no understanding about the business, that being said, Dennis Wilson bought one of his songs, and changed the lyrics when they recorded it, and that made Charlie even more angry🤪
It's the easiest thing in the world to con and manipulate people. The tough thing is to be so heartless and soulless as to take advantage of that fact. Manson was one of them.
Its easy if your a sociopath. Its the easiest part. N for the narcissist, the most enjoyable.
Anyone ever hear of..........Tom O'Neil?
Bro he got me hella interested in this
Book is pre-ordered
Literally brought me into this whole craziness
This video is ironic because the LA Times was complicit in the CIA invlovement with the Mansons
Anyone heard Nikolas Schreck?
Whatever happened to Elf?
At 18, I hitchhiked from Ohio to Los Angeles at the end of 1968. I very clearly remember the Cielo Drive murders. Let me tell you, it put an end to the view of hippies (which I fancied myself at the time) as flower children, peace-loving fruitcakes. Everyone in LA was terrified.
Very interesting.. thank you.
What’s the music playing in the beginning ?
He didn’t “sleep” with them...he screwed their brains out!
Remember kids, Charlie Loves u
my dad as a boy went to the manson Spahn ranch when the family was there to buy one of their horses with his dad (my grandpa). The horse was not healthy and it was emaciated and my dad said the hippy chicks were extremely dirty like they hadn't bathed in a week or 2. Crazy world (and i didn't know this but they also were robert blake's neighbors) in hidden hills
Yah hippies were always dirty. The real ones. Been there in the 70s.
Married at in 66 and missed the whole thing (thank goodness)
But l had to go to work, l lost many
friends to drugs. Many who survived never really survived. It was all so sad.
These photos sure bring back memories. I grew up only a few miles from the Sunset Strip, even getting arrested in front of the Pandora's Box night club when I was only 16-years old, the subject of the big sixties protest song, "For What It's Worth," by the Buffalo Springfield, who later went on to form Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young.
I had the opportunity to watch the highly touted film by Quentin Tarantino, "Once Upon A Time In Hollywood, and although he did manage to capture the "feeling" of those days quite well, I was extremely angry about how he interjected his film characters into the actual murder of Sharon Tate. To me, by trying to change history, he totally distorted the entire memory of Tate and the others who died so tragically. This horrific event was no Hollywood fairytale, it was an actual event, and I doubt if the families of these many innocent victims would have liked how he turned their deaths into a Hollywood film script. Extremely bad form, in my opinion.
You must not watch many Tarantino films. It’s essentially a running gag in many of his films to have a big turn of events whenever he’s producing a movie based off of historical incidences. It was never meant to be a documentary.
@@chriscrux4556
You missed my point. *There was no stuntman present at the Manson killings!!* My brother's friend's parents were MURDERED by the Manson gang. They left a knife sticking out of Leno LaBianca's chest. This was no minor "historical coincidence," it was Tarantino COMPLETELY changing the facts of the most heinous crime scene in LA history. If you don't know the difference, you have a very big problem.
Free love is what we're paying for now.
Moon Dancer the 80s my generation killed it selfish bastards now we are paying for it every generation blames the one before it’s that simple
@LAFOLLETTER maybe you could house them.☯️
Moon Dancer I don't pay them. They pay me.✡️
Dennis Wilson dated Christine Mcvie of Fleetwood Mac from 77 to 80. He was Charles Mansons best friend once. I wonder if he told her stories about Charlie.
Those very people out there in L.A. were clueless then and they're all even more clueless now
Sure do make a lot money for being "clueless."
You sound like a square dude.
@@westcoastdude4777 Most people in LA don't make much money and struggle. It's a highly stratified city full of homelessness and crime.
@@andrewb9708 it may be that way because people gravitate to where they can be homeless. you have to put in an effort to make something of yourself, not just hang out and do drugs until you are too old to change. Los Angeles has a THRIVING middle class, largely of immigrants who work hard and have made it for themselves. Its not just the downtown and strip areas - its a huge city with varying neighborhoods.
8:35
I have a PhD in Mind Control. Where did I learn such a thing you say? Well the prestigious and highly regarded San Quentin of course.
Bingo
MK ULTRA
When Charlie talks he sounds like a politician, daddy Bush & son.
A product of the US gvt.
“I generally tell people what they wanna hear.” CM
amazing footage and storytelling.
Lies !!! Except Charlie's excerpts.
My friend and I saw Manson and two topless girls wearing blue jeans dancing on the end of a jetty just south of Temescal Canyon in Pacific Palisades, CA . in the late 60's. I can still see it because we saw the topless girls and as teenagers got as close as we could to them, they were dancing around Manson with their arms above their heads, looked cool at the time. At that point we did not know it was Manson for sure but a few days later confirmed it when we came across 40-50 dead and sacrificed animals on the beach, some headless some with their throats slit. There were many birds, a few goats and other animals I don't remember what they were. It was weird and a bit frightening to say the least. When I got home I told my mother, she called the cops so there may be a record of it.
That's pretty interesting. Thank you for sharing.
You are sooooo full of shit. It’s widely known that while the Family had no regard for human life, they had a no harm to animals policy. Everyone wants to be a part of this case in the worst way. I find it humorous. Get a life!
mk ultra mission demonize hippies altamont too
Did you need to take drugs to form this opinion? Are you naturally this way? Are you on medications to help? Are you aware there are medications available to help? Do you even want help? Crisis line, dude.... Crisis line.....(You,too, 12 thumbs up)
@@johnshilling2221 is your fragile sense of adequacy threatened?
Well that worked
Come on everyone knows Manson was an mk ultra agent. Huge part of mk ultra was to see if they could create soldiers that could kill with no remorse or fear, so they sent Charlie at, when he was able to get 20 year hippie girls to kill pregnant women with no remorse it was a huge ✔️ for the programme. they also say Saddam had weapons of mass destruction n Anna Nicole married for love. The jfk job was a really bad one to take, the boys who did that were dead n buried in the desert 6 hours later.
STILL GOT THE SHOVEL.
Aaron Dill
How come I’ve still got it. U musta got the wrong John Doe
I wonder where the baby named "Elf" is now or if he's even still alive?
If he is? I’m sure he changed that ridiculous name.
@@georginaohara5666 lol probably
@@danielblake1537 I do hope he grew up with anonymity with a loving family. Poor lil poppet.
@@georginaohara5666 if it was good enough for will ferall
Elf lives in Singapore. I know!!
I feel like this publicity contributed to the Beatles breakup which happened just a few months later. Also interesting is that Bad Moon Rising was a song also on the charts at the time of the murders
The real truth is much different than the official story.
Mainly in the field of motive. Even Tex said that Bugliosi's book was "85% true".
@@out99990 I could never believe it was 85 percent true.
@@shadowwolf7622 I don't believe Helter Skelter was the main motive-i think it was a thread that ran through Charlie's sermons to the family that Bugliosi picked up on so he could get the press to pump the circus up and eventually sell millions of books. As far as percentages of truth goes, Tex was definitely there (most unfortunately) and he has nothing to gain by stating this so i'm gonna go with what he says on this particular matter,
@@out99990 I agree with you on the Helter Skelter idea. It was way over blown by the State. I've went down a lot of rabbit holes studying Manson and the family. I believe the killings on both nights were over drugs. I think Watson was on a mission to steal drugs to get money, to bail Bobby out of jail. From my studies, the Tate house was the families main drug connection. And the LaBiancas were their dealers. I believe it started out as a robbery, not murder. But, no drugs were found at Tate's, and Watson went off on a speed induced frenzy. I also believe some were left alive, tied up. After returning back and telling Manson of the circumstances, Manson returned back with Watson and finished off the survivors and altered the scene.
@Greg A Why? For not believing the official-B.S. story?
So. Whatever happened to "elf"?. Curious.
He got took buy social service I think I read in some were
@@scottrobertson5610 And they changed his name?
@@jamesb.9155 they changed his name to elfredo.
Changed his name, gave him a new life. And a Hollywood career. Jim Carrey is Elf.
I cant believe these people are referring to this monster as “Charlie”........
Charles was his name, they could have called him that or his middle name Milles, I guess............
and soon followed the heyday of serial killers, 1974 was when the term was coined. before dna and cameras were everywhere serial killers could go for decades without being caught, you had to have a survivor, eyewitness, or catch them in the act. idk how much of that sickness was inspired by the manson family.
What's the difference between a hockey player and a hippie chick???
A hockey player takes a shower after 3 periods😁💯
These women rhapsodizing about the '60's. None of then received a draft notice at the end of 1969, like I did. For a Southeast Asian vacation-all expenses paid. Terry Melcher. What a life. Only remembered as the son of Doris Day, and being the tenant Charlie was really looking for at the Altobelli house.
I'm sure you didn't want to go, but , thank you for your service.
I appreciate and respect your service. Mr. Altobelli really turned out to be a stand up guy. Sharons father Paul Tate had to clean up all the gore and mess left following the murders and subsequent investigation. Altobelli had his lawyer threaten them with legal action of some sort very shortly after they were buried. So a father was forced to clean up his daughter's blood...and Jays...and Voyteks...and Abigails.
Jesus these wemon need to suffer for what they did. Stop blaming Manson. No one can make someone do something. If that was the case everyone would murder after a compliment.
Those wemon should pay too
Manson killed the 60's and he is dead and he is probbaly dancing with the devil right about now! Charles Manson was a sicko
and so were his followers. The 60's were groovy but he killed it. Sharon Tate was the last to die! She had such a promising career. So sad she died. I liked her in Dance Of The Vampires, Valley Of The Dolls, So much has changed and Sharon Tate's house is no longer there! RIP SHARON TATE!
Greg Jacobson- Always wondered what happened to the third member of the "Golden Penetrators" along with Terry Melcher and Dennis Wilson.
Seeing the 60's in color and so clear it makes it feel more real when usually pictures and most film back in the 60's was black and white