Harbor Freight Bauer 9 Amp Surface Conditioning Tool Review! {Drum VS Strip Disc}
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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
- Review of the Bauer drum sander. Using it for just under 4 hours and it busted! Going back to the store and returning it for a new one, not off to a good start...
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You missed something very critical though...you looked at the surface reconditioner as a metal working tool only. That's where it outperforms others the most is the fact that it can also be great for wood, fiberglass, and plastics....stuff that can easily be destroyed by an angle grinder.
It would probably work great for that stuff. Thanks for watching!
@@IronHorseGarage Also, one other thing to take into consideration...the angle grinder strip disc only did one job....stripping. The surface conditioner did 2 jobs at once....stripping, PLUS a clean ready-to-go finish. No real metal worker is going to call a job complete with angle grinder streaks and stripes all over a project. So the time you clocked on the angle grinder would literally be 2-4 times longer after finishing passes to make it match the conditioner surface...unless we're just talking about something the size of a welding coupon or something small like that.
All depends on what you're going for.
The drum sander shines for removing mill scale from metal. Real useful for welders.
Thank you very much for watching!!
Agreed. Welders best friend for rusty or outdoor welding
Exactly! This is probably the best $160 I’ve spent at HF
This is the comment I was looking for! As a 41 year-old, completely new welder (never too old to learn a new skill) I’m already tired of cleaning mill scale from drop with my angle grinder.
Honestly I think the drum has a better finish, on thin flat surfaces, pretty useless on most other surfaces, the disc is a lot more versatile for any surface, great video thanks, all the best to yous and your loved ones
Yeah that's about the just of it. It does have its place. Thank you very much my friend!! We appreciate your support!
I’m a woodworker who uses mine restoring old tools. I like the scratch pattern better with the SCT (for example, on vintage handsaws, where you see the scratch pattern long term).
As you guys show though, angle grinder is still very versatile and plenty for many (most?) applications.
I hear ya, we appreciate the input! Thank you very much for watching!
So it’s literally called a Surface conditioning tool. Not a paint stripper.
It can do both, but it’s for a different application imho. I want one for cleaning up metal and giving a smooth satin look. Not gonna be stripping paint.
Nice video, guys. I love the commentary and music!
Yep, that's correct. It does have its purpose. Thank you very much for watching!!
I use this to remove deep scratches from stainless steel tables at work. Great tool!
Awesome! Thank you for watching!
My first and most likely my only Harbor Freight power tool. I use it not to strip paint but to polish and grain stainless steel pipes, tubing and panels. Does a nice job putting or restoring grain
Awesome, thank you for sharing, and thanks for watching!
Thanks for posting the comparison. At retail, I'd say it's definitely not a winner, but on sale, I could see adding it to my collection of tools. While I do work with metal, I also work with wood and could see this being helpful in some situations.
Any recommendations on good strip discs? I don't think I saw a link to them in your affiliate links.
We usually buy the blue strip discs from Walmart or Amazon. You can usually get a 10 pack for about 30 bucks. We appreciate you watching!
just bought the drum sander at HF for 109 bucks. did a test spot on a car frame and it is working incredibly. Fast and very clean. Very impressed. I cant see anyone buying the eastwood unit at 3x the price.
Awesome! Yeah you can't beat the price.
True, but the Eastwood one goes on sale quite often, I think currently it's on sale for around $120.
I like the finished look of the metal with the drum , if there was no other body work to be done I think some Apoxy Primer could go on and be ready for paint .
Each has their own strengths, thank you for watching!
Great comparison, I could see the use of both if you are running a body shop or have several body work projects . But for the weekend warrior I would go with the grinder and disc just to save money on more tools. Great video!
Yes sir!! Thank you very much Duddie!!
Me personal I bought it for one purpose and that is to use it on furniture repair and restoration, I haven’t had any problems using it on wood, I have other grinders for metal stripping, Etc. Thanks for the review
I'm glad you guys made this comparison video. I actually considered buying a drum sander from Eastwood. They Are heavier than the 4 inch grinder and don't appear to be that much faster.
Yep that's our determination. Thanks for watching sir!!
The Bauer surface conditioning tool is 50% off today only. $75.
Not bad!
I think you're missing the purpose of the drum style machine, it's to achieve consistent inline abrasions like satin finished stainless steel or aluminum, but can also strip paint as a plus.
That is not how it's marketed. Eastwoods version is marketed for stripping rust and paint. In our industry you don't want smooth shiny steel to lay paint over so that type of purpose is of no use to us.
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Hi friend, it doesn't surprise me that they market it to the public that way, he'll they market grinding disc's for drills...lol.
like I said "it can also strip paint as a plus", but its original design is for burnishing metals, my personal machine is a $1200.00 Metabo burnishing machine, but in the past I've also owned stationary machines for burnishing large panels.
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Nice review. The harbor freight is priced kinda high. 90 day warranty for $150. Eastwood is $189, but there is a 10% coupon right now bringing it to $171 and has 3 year warranty. But eastwood only includes 120 grit drum.
Wow, that sounds like the way to go! Thank you very much!
That was a great comparison. Can you imagine how slow it would be if it wasn’t the great Jason using it?!?! I think they both have their place. It would be interesting to test it on a horizon surface where the weight helps you and doesn’t fight you. You guys are awesome. It’s great to see Aaron in front of the camera more.
Yes sir Bill!! Thank you very much sir!!
Well that answered my question. Thx guys. Jason will always be my winner winner 😅
Thank you sir. He can cook you a chicken dinner!
the conditioner leaves a smoother more even finish over the flap disc
Depending on what drum you use. Also, you don't always want an extremely smooth finish to paint over. Plus, that thing isn't very durable.
Hey Horsemen. Good video. I just tried the strip disc to remove paint from my canoe and it works great. Thanks for the tip.👍👍🍻🍻
Awesome Andy, glad we could help!! Thank you very much my friend!!
You are totally right. Looks fancy. Even a 6 inches velcro pad with 80 grit sandpaper work better and faster in most of the paints. Thanks for your demostration. Hope help others to make a good decision.
Thank you very much for watching, we appreciate it!
I think thats an apples to oranges comparison. Each tool is used for different purposes. And the RPMs are different.
Both of these are marketed for stripping metal. That's why we tried them in this environment. Thank you for watching!
Thanks for the video as I am debating on almost what you used but I will be knocking down heavy surface rust (not scale). Well, I could by one, use it and return it if I dont like it. Then go back when they have their sidewalk sale and buy it at a cheaper price.....lol. Thanks again.
Hahaha, they do have their place. Thank you for watching!
They really do have a good return process!
Probably the best honestly. No questions, no problems. Thank you sir!!
You need both. Each tool has a purpose.
Very true. Thanks for watching!
I bolt both but like surface conditioner better than anything I tried.
Thanks for watching!
I bought the Eastwood one about a year or so back. was not impressed at all. major waste of money on my part and time. at least i can get the drums at Harbor Freight cheaper for it. thanks for the video now I'm just a bit more depressed than i was to begin with about buying it..lol
Hahaha, you don't know until you try it out. Thank you very much for watching!!
Or you could buy a drum sander attachment from Temu that fits your angle grinder and is only $36.
Whoa, cool.
Very fair comparison. How about comfort longevity? If you used one for 30 minutes each, is one more or less exhausting?
Well what I can say is the drum sander is double the weight and you get pretty tired after awhile of using it. We appreciate you watching!!
Just compare the drum to the disc, that’s all I’m saying. The disc u can get 2/3 of it to work on material, MAX. The drum is about 8 discs combined, you do the math on the time it will take u to change out 8 discs compared to one drum
Great analogy, but it doesn't actually work that way. The disc is faster.
Pretty cool video guys, I guess it probably not bad to own both units, both have there strengths.
That's true. Thank you very much for watching sir!!
Contours on cars maybe the SCT might advantage in time and scratch patterns
Thanks for the review. I have a 16 foot livestock trialer to do. no way i could work that 8 lb tool for days on end. Would be good for small jobs.
Glad we could help!! Thank you very much for watching!!
The drum is smoother and better less gouging nd deep cuts leaves it leveled nd smooth
No gouging with the strip disc either. They are not a hard material.
Looks like both have advantages and disadvantages and both would work good together stripping a car to bare metal for example. It's seems to me that the angle grinder leaves a less consistent and uneven surface compared to the Bauer tool in my opinion and I wouldn't use it for the large flat areas.
Yep, different tools for different types of work. Thank you very much for watching!
Awesome review brothers. Harbor Freight has some good stuff and some awful stuff. Strictly depends on what you get. Thanks for sharing. Keep the content coming. Hope you have an incredible weekend. Stay cool. Much love and RESPECT
Thanks for all your support Tim!! We appreciate it sir!!
I would be curious to know how much heat is generated by each of them. Get one of those thermal guns and do a heat measurement while each of those things are stripping. 😉
Yeah great idea! Thank you very much Mike!!
@@IronHorseGarage curse of the fabricator. Always thinking about heat. 😂😂
Would have liked to see you both swap tools and do it again. Looked like drumb tool was really only using the weight of the tool vs grinder really getting in there with a push. Curious about fatigue if you actually did the whole bed. Those grinder strip discs can work really well. Not a good sign the drums sander died so quick. I got it for I think 109 or 119 on coupon a month ago. I guess I better use it a bit to see if it will fail. I think both types will have a place. Thanks for the review!
Thank you very much for watching!
they do have the handle mounted backwards which also lessens the force applied by the Bauer
Is it enough to make a difference? You can also push it to a stop.
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Awesome! Thank you very much for watching!
If the only thing you use it for is pant removal then yes but if you want to prep metal, polish it or even redo you stainless steel sink so it looks brand new then the surface drum sander is the way to go. Remember if every problem looks like a nail then the only tool you need is a hammer.
Thanks for watching!
Good comparison. I think I would stick with the Metabo. It's a better value than the $60 Hercules from H.F..
We're very happy with the Metabo. Thank you very much Matt!!!
The cheaper product gets the job done but if you're trying to have a more even smoother surface I'd go with the bit more pricey tool especially if it's for a profession. You get what you pay for. And if you sacrifice quality for quantity you get a lower valued product
Absolutely! Thank you for watching!
Saw a review of the drum grinder using 40 grit and it ate right through the paint and rust instantly. Just saying. Its only a different way to grind is all. Plus the drum grinder has several speeds.
Thank you very much for watching!
Nice, comparison🙉🙈🙊
Thnx👍💪🍻🦅🦅🦅🦅
Thank you very much sir!!
Nampa Harbor tools. Where’s the shop?
We are in Caldwell Idaho.
What if you used the machine weight to your advantage and did it on a horizontal panel just an idea may need to watch the heat at that point as well
Yep, we probably should have done that, it could have an advantage in that aspect, but there will be more testing for sure!! Thank you very much for watching!
I’m restoring and old rusty utility trailer will this work on heavier rust or just like most surface thinner rust??
I have been using a a wire wheel on a angle grinder but it’s taking forever
I think it would probably work fine for that. Only one way to find out!
What a fun comparison video! More expensive isn't always better. Great Video!!
Thank you sir! Just a gimmick as far as I see!!
I'm so sick of surface preparation buying this buying that using muriatic acid or putting it in a sand blast cabinet.
I saw what the dustless blaster can do and I will be done with all this it's expensive but so much time saved
I hear ya. Sounds like the route to go. Thanks for watching
I see both having their use! The SCT seems to flat rip off paint rust U name it...yrs worth...and at warp speed on flat surfaces like hoods cab tops roof tops trunks etc....But the grinder is gonna do better on like the side of the vehicle I think or in tons of spots where the big gaulky one ain't gonna ever fit!!
But the SCT one is pretty awesome when u can bare dn on it put ur weight on it dn on top of it on any surface like I said such as hoods cab tops trunk lids...nice large curves on older antique cars etc!?
But again the grinder with the rt grit?? Etc...is smaller!!! MUCH more LW!!! Easier to hold move around...get into much better much smaller places...
And I MEAN U CAN GET A PERFECTLY GOOD BAUER GRINDER LIKE I JUST DID FOR 19.99!!! AND ANY WAY U SLICE IT THAT PRICE IS PRETTY GD HARD TO FN BEAT!!!!😮😊
19.99+1.40T+8 for 2yr War!! So under 30 w a great 2 yr on it!! U just can't beat that!!!
And Metabos runs like 39.99+ with a 3YR WAR?? AND LIKE 6 WHEELS!!! GREAT QUALITY FOR AROUND 40!?
FOR SAME PRICE AS THE METABO U CAN PICK UP A.LITTLE BIGGER BETTER GRINDER WITH THE NICE TAIL AND TIGGER ON IT BY BAUER! CM MAKES ONE AROUND THE SAME PRICE!?
And the Herc wheels r pretty damned good! Though I do with HF would carry and sell a lot of stripper pads with the Grits on them like the rollers on the SCT!
SO WHERE DID U GET THOSE PADS AND HOW MUCH NOW?? LOVEEE THOSE BLUE ONES U GOT ON UR METABO!!! I NEED THOSE AND OTHERS LIKE THEM FOR MY NEW 19.99 BAUER GRINDER SO I CAN BEGAN STRIPPIN DN MY OLDDDD 88 CHEVY SILVERADO K2500!!?? MAN O MAN DOES IT LOOK LIKE SHIT!!! TONS OF RUST AND MULTIOL COLOR ETC.... WANTING TO FINALLY DO SOMETHING WITH THE CRAPPY BODY SHIT AND PUT SOME KINDA PAINT ON IT JUST TO MAKE IT A NICE COLOR AND GIVE IT A NICE NEWER NICER LOOK AND SOME UNIFORMITY!!??
CAN I PLEASE FIND OUT ABOUT THE NICE BLUE PADS UR USING ON UR METABO?? THANKS GUYS!!!😊😊❤❤
Thank you very much for watching and commenting! We get the blue pads from Walmart.com or Amazon, but the Walmart ones seem to last longer and are cheaper.
Good review brotha!
Thank you very much amigo!!
@@IronHorseGarage of course brotha!
Man I've been waiting for you guys to get your greasy hoves on that machine again much like the manual tire changer finesse eludes you....#1 measure the temp of the metal both methods produced the temperature is important as to not warp thin sheet metal!.... #2 they make a variety of wheels for the HFT/Eastwood machine in all widths and types of material...... Obviously Jason is the smartest one of the group!..... Never have I been so scared than when you said strip! And those two guys were standing there!!!😂😁😝🇺🇸
Hahaha haha!! We took an unofficial hand feel temperature and it was about the same. I'm sure there's lots of other drums that can be used which we will be looking into. Thank you again my friend!!
the drum sander wont warp the metal in body work
Great point. Just like anything the longer you hold something in place the more heat it generates. The stripping discs won't warp the steel as long as you keep them moving. Thank you very much for watching!
@@IronHorseGarage true...me being a novice whose learning thru youtube I think it would be better for me to start out with the drum sander. Its best for my skill level..I really liked your vid and Im glad youre the type who to respond to your comments...keep up the good work
No problem at all! We appreciate you watching!
Hmmmm? It works but over time I think the cost and the loss of time loose!
Yes sir I believe so!! Thanks amigo!!
I think maybe it might do better if you used a better quality drum
Very possible. Thanks for watching!
Where do you get the grinder strip discs? They are so expensive
The regular strip disc's I buy on Walmart.Com. They are about 40 bucks for 10.
I think if you have the test in my garage on my car Jason might win because it's only 70°🤔
Hahaha, sounds very nice!!
Ibought one few months To strip the inside roof of barracuda I reviewed. Several videos I payed around one hundred bucks on sale Istill use aircraft striper when I can flapperdisk burri g tools fourinch grinders Da sanders And sandblaster I put Restorer tool in with my aresnal of tools Works fine Would by one again I give it five star
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My old mustang has, no joke, 7 layers of paint! Car from Mexico where things are done cheap. I'm screwed!
Wow...it would be interesting to see what's underneath.
@@IronHorseGarage I don't want to know! I'm dreading stripping it all! This video was just 1 layer, right?
Yes it was.
its an interesting tool but too expensive and i would prefer cordless
Thanks for watching!
Let’s go Jason!
He couldn't pull it off.
Just chemically strip it and use the tool to finish the surface.
Done that before. Actually takes longer.
Thanks & well done. I appreciate that you start the video with almost obligatory return of the defective HF tool. I like tools that just work right out of the box and keep on working. I also hate Communists and what they're doing to our country.
Those Eastwood drums are spendy compared to the discs. I do like the brushed finish of the drums better for exposed stainless.
I've looked at the Makita 9741 Wheel Sander, but at $700 +$240+ per drum, it's WAY out of my price-point. It's a specialty tool, for sure.
I hear ya, sometimes it's difficult to know what to do. Thank you for watching.
Jason also has groves and grinder marks
Yes indeed
How hot is the angle grinder disc getting the metal? In certain conditions it can warp.
Not very hot, but yes it can warp the steel no matter which tool you're using. You have to be careful and keep it moving so it's not in one area too long.
Does anyone know if they make sanding flaps for the baurer conditioning tool?
Not really sure. Thank you for watching.
Yes.
Four hour lifespan. Not good.
Not good at all.
I will stick to a grinder.
Yep that's the way I see it. Thanks Glen!
Clearly the strip disc
You know it!!
Jason is to cool to wear a mask? Lol 😆 i cant believe that thing already died 😡
That’s not a mask???
Safety third for him...yep the switch or something burnt up!
The Bauer operator was not working the tool right better get a person that knows how to work with tools.
The commenter always has something to say, but usually has zero experience. The Bauer is a piece of garbage and this style of grinder is a gimmick.
Take that grinder and come strip prep my wood deck. I want it ready to stain after you're done. 🤣
Also would love to see the quality paint job you get on that streaky surface after the grinder.
Would also be fun watching you prep some fiberglass or plastic with the grinder.
See we can all sh-t on various tools. Doesn't necessarily make it a bad tool. You tried it on one very specific application. Didn't really even prove the point, cause you'd still have to go over and smooth the finish with a bunch of passes if you want to lay a quality paint job down. So all depends on the use case. The drum sander/resurfacing tool is great for certain jobs. Also...who pays full retail at HF? They have sales every day of the week...
Thanks for watching!
Jason is the only one with any real brains.
Hahaha! You should try working with him! And this tool is garbage.
Swap users and repeat.
I’m glad you showed us that drum sanders are a waste, of money.
Nothing but a gimmick.
Not first
The first step is admitting you have a problem!
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Hahaha haha!!
The production value of your videos is getting too high. I don't like it, might have to unsubscribe. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
What....hahaha!! We are still far away! Thank you for watching my friend!
@@IronHorseGarage gotta support the local guys! 👍
Yee Haw!! Thanks again sir!!