Except it's not all good especially for most people who he would like to bang. Also I bet this same guy wouldn't date a fat fuck like himself because he also has preferences which he cannot control... of all people I'd expect gays to know this.
Dark what is up with u white dudes? You have no desire to have part of the community have anything be better for everyone. Be like you or get out right? That’s what it sounds like and that’s douchey!!!
LOL I love it how SJWs like you say "don't body shame" and what not, but then you turn around and you're racist by unnecessarily naming the color of my skin (while you don't even know my ethnicity) while blaming me for your problems. You're also saying only white people have standards which isn't true, so that is ironic racism against other races... I never said you have to change anything you can't control, like your skin, the fact you're gay or your dating preferences, all of that is fine, but weight can be controlled by not stuffing your piehole with pie and moving your ass. There are so many benefits of not being lazy and therefore fat, including not dying by age of 40, or perhaps death is body shaming too?
Dark Did you seriously just compare sexual orientation (something you can’t help) with beauty ideals/preferences, something that has been conditioned and programmed into all of us? 🤔
Dark no u just want an excuse to be a bigoted prick. Someday when they open the history book their gonna laugh at ppl like you. You don’t resemble progress and your cool with that. Evolution needs a weak link I guess.
Except it's not all good especially for most people who he would like to bang. Also I bet this same guy wouldn't date a fat fuck like himself because he also has preferences which he cannot control... of all people I'd expect gays to know this.
Whaaaat? He actually cares about his body because otherwise he doesn't get laid... well good any reason that prevents guys to be fat unhealthy fucks is a good reason.
They honestly couldn’t have found an actual fat guy? Talk about body shaming. You take a cute guy with an average body and cast him as “the fat guy”. Really queen? NO.
ml, I acknowledge that editing might have something to do with it, but his statement as a whole doesn't really make sense. Why was he mentioning taking drugs in the context of looking physically attractive on Grindr? Fat, skinny, tall, short, etc. some people take drugs, so what. That's a different issue. Lastly, looking fat doesn't necessarily mean having health problems; nor looking ripped with a 6-pack means you're healthy. For example, 6-pack abs people can also get high cholesterol.
The "unfit" guy is so hot!! He's got great arms, nice shoulders, and he is very handsome. He looks fit to me. He's sexy. I would *never, ever* think that he would have any issues meeting men. It just goes to show that you never know anyone else's life and how the world treats them.
Tanuki Ikr, I hate it when people who have great bodies play the victim just because it's not what the media considers "right", it makes those of us who truly have a terrible body feel worse. Like "ok, if that's supposed to be an ugly body, what does that make me? a fucking toad?"
Tanuki literally said, 'you never know anyone else's life and how the world treats them' and you just completely proved it. Those people with 'great' bodies in YOUR eyes may not actually feel like and feel like the world is expecting them to look a certain way and that they're not allowed to feel out of place like you've just proven. Dick head. If you're allowed to 'play victim' about your body, then so can anybody.
Martin Menendez Are they meeting on a visual platform? Is the episode about body type? Was the premise of the episode to demonstrate how different body types are treated on the dating/hookup app? Were responses to the physical features of each man discussed? My comment is appropriate. And, lawd have mercy: can we give someone who receives negative comments an honest compliment without it being an indictment of the (that portion) of the gay community?
grindr is for thirst queens, if you are looking for something more than a fix for your sex addiction its really not where you go. the straight "dating" apps aren't any better, people are shallow.
I find it pretty scary that a lot of the street interviews were all like "Yeah, gays are obsessed, but it's necessary to go to the gym and look this way". "Your value is how you look" "If you don't have a six pack, you're not getting laid" "If I had a choice, i would just rather stay in my bed" They all seem to feel like they don't have a choice. I don't know how much of that is sarcasm, but not a single one of those guys actually seemed to be promoting loving yourself however you are. Very depressing.
xaosyn I mean in my experience, they're all right. If you want to be valuable to other gay men, you have to fit their fantasy. And most of the times that fantasy is "fuckin ripped dude."
The most disgusting part is that they pretend that it's about health. When really you can be heavier and be doing everything you can to be healthy and not look the way they want you to. Like it or not, aside from genetics and some people just not being able to lose weight that easily . . . some people can be eating better than a skinny person, exercising more and have a screwed up thyroid or have to take a medication that makes them gain anyway and there might not be a substitute or way that they can get the substitute. ( health insurance might not pay for it, allergies, it might not work for them, it might give them different symptoms. Etc. ) But while there are heavy people TRYING to better themselves we're beating them down and some wannabe fitness junky who is eating on a fad diet or eating the same stuff with a faster metabolism is judging when his body is actually getting as wrecked if not more.
If you love yourself and your body you go to gym. it's not a hard concept. he only cares about his body because otherwise he doesn't get laid? Well good any reason that prevents guys to be fat unhealthy fucks is a good reason. Any man who puts effort to look fit and attractive loves himself more than all the lazy fat libtards in the "fat acceptance" movement. Now if that movement actually moved, it wouldn't be a thing.
Interesting, that they avoided speaking about the "fit" guys experience being the "fat" guy..... I'll take it he did not get a positive response as he usually does.
xcrunner trackrunner what narrative is that? There’s documented proof that overweight men have a much more difficult time not being insulted or harassed on Grindr compared to fit men who go to the gym 7 hours a day.
The "unfit" guy was way hotter than the "fit" guy, though tbh I'm not sure what the major difference was. A pooch? Did the "unfit" guy even have a belly? Or was he just short? Kinda vague there.
Lifewithbri The fit guy is not ugly, but that hairstyle he wears is just stupid. You can't be attractive with that hairstyle, no matter how perfect your body is. Fact.
That wouldn't help to push agenda and virtue signal because about everyone would be disgusted in comments and wouldn't want to have sex with the that fat guy even lefties with their sjw beliefs that people owe you sex somehow. Also it's a non issue, dating is biased by nature. We can't control our preferences. You're gay you should that better than anyone else.
Whats funny is that the 'bigger' guy in the video isn't even big....i would guess a 34 inch waist. Stupid video. Important subject....executed terribly!
So can abs. Bring on the Twinkies! And so can fat! Bring on the twinks! Oh wait, no twinks "grind" on "fat" guys... Yay! Judgy Judy in the house! 📜 What's on _your_ laundry list of requirements in a man?
It’s hard to be confident with your body when you see men with the “perfect” body getting celebrated everywhere you look and they get whatever they want. Society tells us “look like this” and then you have things like this that are all about body positivity. As long as society keeps celebrating that perfect body there will be no body positivity and there will be body shaming by others and by your own self.
Society is hard on women as sexual figures they need to abide by a certain standard that is often appropriated and only made more intense and strict by other women. --- As gay men, we're attracted to eachother and do this to ourselves and it's unfortunate and disgusting... Everyone wants a pay on the back for being semi-relatable or human by being like " Oh, I care about more than someone's body. I care about a great personality and face too. " ---- When it's accompanied by a great body, therefor negating the first half of the statement. Like, people say that shit like it makes them better but they literally are saying " You don't have to give me $10k, I'll also accept $20k "
Thats wby I envy straight men sooo much, they dont worry about this stuff obsessively, women also love them for other things and also sometimes more if theyre not that hot because they know that a family man should be a normal man not a calvin klein model
Yea straight people have that "normal" to fall back on. But that's looking on the outside in. On the inside, some men feel that women are "crazy" and feel that women are manipulative and they'll just be that way. So men get in these relationships with controlling women and be feeling miserable. For women, they think "Oh he's just had a bad life, that's why he's always mad" when referring to men who got anger issues. Straight men don't give themselves much privilege to be emotional since it's considered "gay" for a man to be emotional. So it's not all that great being straight. I mean some straight men are the way they are because they have no reason to be otherwise. Gay people have the privilege to be whoever we want and we can say "we're expressing ourselves from being oppressed". Probably why straight people get called "boring" or "vanilla". LoL!!
summeroflove Of course they might desire them in a physical way but trust me, most women if not all want their husbands NOT to look that attractive so that they wont drag attention from other women. I had friends that forbid their boyfriends going to gym etc And in a way, thats kinda a win win situation since men wont have to be so self conscious about themselves as much as when they were single, unlike gay world where you are expected to look good until the end.
InfiniteBeach34 The overwhelming majority of my friends are straight women, and they all care about their boyfriends/husbands appearence quite a lot actually. They encourage them to manscape, work out etc. I think its a misnomer that women dont care that much about appearence.
Sam Dude Well I think you live in a big cosmopolitan city, majority of suburban couples with childfen and people in more rural areas are like that, if they put on some weight, their wife will just laught it off at dinner time and he will say he is proud of his tummy. But God forbid same thing happens in an urban gay couple, the fat dude will probably be dumped or worse, cheated on.
Oh my god I'm not obese or skinny and I exercise 5 days a week but I've been told that I was fat by gay standards. I can only imagine how much worse it is in America.
I think they hit the spot in this body episode by picking cute chubbier guy and not so cute ripped guy showing that sometimes its all about the body. Cmon lets be real the ripped guy doesnt have much on the face department.
True I care alot about face too and personality, but still preferences are preferences and those who want abs it's fine. Personally no abs is fine to me as long he is still fit and has little to no stomach, but I would never date someone who is fat, it's just me being naturally attracted to healthy people like about everyone else, wouldn't bang a landwhale.
+Daikamaitachi One of what? One of guys who prefer healthy guys over landwhales? What's wrong with that? If you really love your body, stop SJWing lose some weight and even if that doesn't help you getting a boyfriend because you're still ugly, you will be healthy and your body will thank you.
I just wish they picked someone who was maybe actually overweight. People have different body structures and the same weight doesn't look the same on everyone even if they're the same height. He could lose 20 lbs and still look a little thicc but he is far from even being chubby. This was like " Oh, we're going to tackle an issue " and then didn't tackle it and probably couldn't because there was a miscast
A wise individual once said, "Sometimes, your type is the reason why you're single." Sure, being fit/hot may get you laid a lot more, but how many of them are engaging in healthy relationships?
Reginald Finally someone gets it. People complain about bodyshaming, and then you get a comments section cluttered by dumbasses "face-shaming" a guy who happens to be not ugly at all.
Uh.....social media,the internet DOES mirror,reflect, what’s going on in the “real world.” HELLO!? Most gay men are obsessed with how they look AND how others look at them. ESPECIALLY those that are into working out. And the blatant disrespect,discrimination,body shaming comes from those same gay men. Rarely do these guys,step “out of the box” to even consider dating,”whatever “ anyone who doesn’t look like them. Is this what community is about?
regguyftl65 Don Umm... no? Why do people expect everyone to adhere to the so-called "community" and its non written rules and act with fraternization just because we have a random trait in common? Every individual is different and have their own thoughts and ideals, you can't expect every gay in the world to be kind to other gay guys just because we share the same sexual orientation. "Community" means you're living with many different people, with very different views about everything. Yes, there are rude and disrespectful people. Just don't blame a group because of them and move on to someone who is more worthy of your time, and never take it personally for your own sake.
regguyftl65 Don Buddy, this is an issue for straight people as well. The problem is, there are only 100,000,000 gay people meanwhile there are 7 billion straight people. Since the population is small, certain issues are more prevalent. Seriously, you should know why girls only date certain guys.
Maybe build real, valuable and fulfilling relationships instead of permanently look for hookups? It's just sad seeing the emotional vaccum and shallowness in the gay community. Ah, males...
I go though this everyday because im a bigger guy nobody wants to talk to me why does everything have to be about looks so i get called ugly all the time
You shouldn't be called ugly just for existing so that's wrong but the reality is that most men care about looks and it's just the way it is. This isn't to say that all guys are into the same Muscular/Gym-fit bodies, it's a matter of finding the guys who are into - insert body here - You should try bear dating circles.
Idk what the “chubby” guy is complaining about he’s fine as fuck. I think if they wanted to do this “experiment” they should of done 2 extremely opposite body types. They went from a fit guy to a slightly thicker fit guy.... yup diversity.
it does not mean you have a great body you are 100% healthy... steroids steroids steroids is not healthy remember???? lol... i even know people who got nice bodies who ended up in the hospital due to illness...
Tf i dont even into that kinda absy person, you want your beef thick and tender, not fucking hard to eat 👀 Ps: that guy you use to representing ‘fat’ guy, aint even fat
2:24 I will say this it's easy to give that type of advice standing in a glass house... especially after he even made comments himself about being "obsessed" with himself....
I love how the "heavy" guy is anything but. Even when gay men attempt to point out their discrimination within our own subculture they do it in an offensive way. There will always be someone bigger than you and smaller than you, richer than you and poorer than you. Embrace who you are and love yourself, if you don't, you can't expect anyone else to.
I don't have a ripped body and my sex life is just fine. Thing is I don't chase gym rats because I'm not one. I don't work out obsessively and I wouldn't want to be with someone who does because it doesn't interest me. So of course anyone who's ripped is going to want to be with someone else that is ripped because they both spend a huge chunk of their time in the gym. But that's what media focuses on because its nice eye candy. My interests are elsewhere. Hell me and my boyfriend will sit back at a bar or a club and talk about the hot bodies walking around. But when we go home we're sleeping with each other, not them. :)
I don't buy this, your average doesn't work out guy next door type can do well and get plenty of interest. I think a lot of this "body shaming" idea comes from guys who aren't confident, and not being confident is for many the real problem. Without confidence guys act and talk very differently, this really affects the conversations they have.
This is so myopic and pointless. I'm middle-aged fat guy and there are people out there who are way into it. You don't have to be a gym bunny to get laid anymore thanks to the internet. We can all connect to each other so easily now that the stereotypes are crumbling. Tastes are actually as diverse and colorful as the rainbow, really!
The gay community has a lot to work on. Whoever finds love within it can feel like they won the lottery for it is extremely hard to do so; especially since it is all based on looks.
the pressure to have a good body, although very present in the gay community, is also present everywhere in society. not every gay goes to the gym. This also needs to be thought about contextually. are most people on grindr looking for a long term relationship or are they looking for a spicy hook up? of course it's better to hook up with someone with whom you can connect to emotionally, beyond physical appearance. that's what healthy relationships are all about, personality and common interests. it all boils down to intention. i think that when u have people looking for casual hook ups and people looking for something more committed on the same platform, is when all these crazy standards and expectations are created
I feel so good knowing that I can never be a subject to all this judgment and expectations because I don't do grindr or any hookup apps or meet people or even make an effort and step out of my house for a date. I am too pre-occupied with my single self and too proud to let some guy judge me and worse reject me. I love the way I am and won't let myself be an option to some random person on an app.
No, not EVERYBODY has a specific type. I have been skinny, I've had the fit body, I'm been overweight, and now I'm a little chubby. I had one thing in common after all of those pant sizes, a horrible sense of confidence and self-esteem. After taking a step back and really looking at myself, I'm pretty content to staying healthy (mentally and physically) without becoming vain and self-indulgent. That's the place I'd rather be! I've had more success with men actually...who knew!
Aunt Jemima literally. i started working out after my break up because i wanted a change. plus at the time, my “happy weight” got me to 185 which was very heavy for my body frame (5’8, 24 y/o at the time). fast forward to now (2 years later) i’ve learned to love myself, and the avenue to get here for me is to be healthy and fit. but tbh, id rather staying in bed watching shows too.
People have preferences, saying “you don’t have to adhere to those specific things” is ignorant. If people don’t want to fuck you because you’re fat then they don’t have to. You don’t get to tell people to change themselves or what they like because you find them attractive.
So what's the point of this video because it didn't seem to dive very deep into this real issue affecting the community? As someone else mentioned, they didn't even talk about the messages the "non-fit" guy got. So much missed opportunity to start real dialog here.
Most people are saying you have to be fit or muscular or have a 6pack to be "good enough," but few if any are clarifying "good enough" for what? Good enough to be a one night stand? Sure. Good enough to be a boyfriend? Maybe. Good enough to just hangout? Absolutely not. It's when these physical preferences (body type AND I'll throw in RACE while i'm here) start getting in the way of non-physical things that they become problematic.
Ummm I think the point is.... why are we trying to impress guys who are on grindr. It’s grindr!!! The bottom of the barrel, obviously hiding behind their six pack.
I lost 150 lbs and I’m still not considered fit. I’m considered fat. I’m a size 36. It’s average in straight world but in gay world? I’m a fat pig. I’ve been told that lol it hurts but eh, I just keep it loving.
The « not ripped » guy is more attractive and has a nicer personality. I actually don’t like ripped guys, I prefer beefy guys that look natural. I find these so called perfect bodies suspicious. 🤔
I'm not sure what point this video is trying to make. Are they saying that handsome guys should feel morally obligated to have charity sex with ugly guys so as not to hurt their feelings? If you can't handle rejection, stay away from Grind or any hook-up app.
Here's a thought: People also have preferences. I will not sleep with someone who is fat. I do not find obesity attractive. Call me whatever you want. No, you don't need a ripped beach body, but take care of yourself? I don't find it attractive.
It's simple really. Self confidence to me is SOOO much more sexy than a tight bod. I don't fuck with people who are that shallow to begin with. Never be afraid to message people! If they don't fuck with you because of this or that they are missing out!
As a "cubby" guy, I am more in line with the bear community. I am all fine if a "fit muscle hunk" does not want me.. But I've had some experiences on grindr where Bears are just too picky.. I am either not fat enough, or bearish enough.. That makes me feel hopeless to find love or a date..
it's not body shaming it's dating which is biased by nature and since you're gay you should know that better than anyone else. Nobody owes you sex. get over yourself and stop SJWing.
"if u dont have sixpack you will never getting laid" honey i dont even have abs, and i already got laid since i was 19 with someone that i called my Man till this day, gurl wyd?😩🤔🤔
I'm a french guy living in Paris, i'm a bit fat and hairy, and i'm really surprised when i read all those comments because even with my body type i never got any problem to get laid, and guys who work 5hour a day to have "the perfect body" don't please me more than the others (a bit less in fact). I think you have to embrace what you are, accept that you can't please to everybody anyway, and be confident with iyour body, because confidence is the sexyest thing, more than muscles.
Never changed your body for they Gay community because someone one love. You they way your are not for having muscles six pack wherever. One day you get older that hard work. You have. Gonna gonna be flaccid so. Just learned in the time time i love they way I’m love the way looks. Don’t need to transform to another guy who I don’t feel the same way. So I’m proud to to be otter Latino and hairy.
Love the guys that bullshit themselves into thinking that because they have a six pack they are healthy.... lolol it means you have strong abdominal muscles and a low percentage of body fat in your torso... you could still have a host of major problems. And before someone jumps in the other guy is not considered “fit” but do you think he is unhealthy?!
Maaannn, what's hot tho? It's really different from person to person. But what is broadly true is that dudes are gross and are fucking whatever is around them. Do what you want to with your body just make sure you're honest about what is actually healthy for you.
How about people be happy with themselves and not constantly seek validation from other people. The whole "seeing people with nice bodies makes me insecure" is so tired. #growup #stopworryingaboutthenextbitch
I don't agree with that "if you don't have a six pack, you won't get laid" comment. I could care less if they have abs, as long as they're not overly hairy and watch their weight at least a little, then I'm fine.
that one guy who was like "it's all good" is all that matters
Except it's not all good especially for most people who he would like to bang. Also I bet this same guy wouldn't date a fat fuck like himself because he also has preferences which he cannot control... of all people I'd expect gays to know this.
Dark what is up with u white dudes? You have no desire to have part of the community have anything be better for everyone. Be like you or get out right? That’s what it sounds like and that’s douchey!!!
LOL I love it how SJWs like you say "don't body shame" and what not, but then you turn around and you're racist by unnecessarily naming the color of my skin (while you don't even know my ethnicity) while blaming me for your problems. You're also saying only white people have standards which isn't true, so that is ironic racism against other races...
I never said you have to change anything you can't control, like your skin, the fact you're gay or your dating preferences, all of that is fine, but weight can be controlled by not stuffing your piehole with pie and moving your ass. There are so many benefits of not being lazy and therefore fat, including not dying by age of 40, or perhaps death is body shaming too?
Dark Did you seriously just compare sexual orientation (something you can’t help) with beauty ideals/preferences, something that has been conditioned and programmed into all of us? 🤔
Dark no u just want an excuse to be a bigoted prick. Someday when they open the history book their gonna laugh at ppl like you. You don’t resemble progress and your cool with that. Evolution needs a weak link I guess.
I dont care about abs, i care about the face
I am more interested in face than body.
The unfit guy is far from be unfit
The black guy that lift his shirt up like " is all gud" is actually my new best friend. Love him 💛
Except it's not all good especially for most people who he would like to bang. Also I bet this same guy wouldn't date a fat fuck like himself because he also has preferences which he cannot control... of all people I'd expect gays to know this.
The guy that said " rather stay in bed and watch movies all night " ME TOO
but he obviously doesn't lol
Whaaaat? He actually cares about his body because otherwise he doesn't get laid... well good any reason that prevents guys to be fat unhealthy fucks is a good reason.
Lol that's what I do
i bet you're fat
They honestly couldn’t have found an actual fat guy? Talk about body shaming. You take a cute guy with an average body and cast him as “the fat guy”. Really queen? NO.
Kandy Kane
I'd say he's above average. He has thick arms and shoulders and a very beatiful body hair pattern.
That's LA for you!
that's kinda the community though
if you don't have a six pack with big arms, youre considered fat
Being average is almost as "bad" as a really fat guy in the gays eyes.
😂😂😂
The ""unfit"" guy is waaaaay more attractive than the other one.
1:40 Ikr. He calls fat guys "sick." Who the hell does he think he is? He's everyone's doctor now?
I was so going to post that lmao. WAAAAAAY more attractive indeed.
Goofy Emoji watch it again, he was saying taking G and coke all the time is unhealthy
ml, I acknowledge that editing might have something to do with it, but his statement as a whole doesn't really make sense. Why was he mentioning taking drugs in the context of looking physically attractive on Grindr? Fat, skinny, tall, short, etc. some people take drugs, so what. That's a different issue. Lastly, looking fat doesn't necessarily mean having health problems; nor looking ripped with a 6-pack means you're healthy. For example, 6-pack abs people can also get high cholesterol.
Honestly, true.
Why are they acting like the thicc guy is obese? Cuz he's not at all.
He's gaybese
I like him!! He's so hot for me ;)
The "unfit" guy is so hot!! He's got great arms, nice shoulders, and he is very handsome. He looks fit to me. He's sexy. I would *never, ever* think that he would have any issues meeting men. It just goes to show that you never know anyone else's life and how the world treats them.
Tanuki
Ikr, I hate it when people who have great bodies play the victim just because it's not what the media considers "right", it makes those of us who truly have a terrible body feel worse. Like "ok, if that's supposed to be an ugly body, what does that make me? a fucking toad?"
Tanuki literally said, 'you never know anyone else's life and how the world treats them' and you just completely proved it. Those people with 'great' bodies in YOUR eyes may not actually feel like and feel like the world is expecting them to look a certain way and that they're not allowed to feel out of place like you've just proven. Dick head. If you're allowed to 'play victim' about your body, then so can anybody.
Craig Robinson I assume you meant that comment towards someone else. Just my name was referenced.
Martin Menendez Are they meeting on a visual platform? Is the episode about body type? Was the premise of the episode to demonstrate how different body types are treated on the dating/hookup app? Were responses to the physical features of each man discussed? My comment is appropriate. And, lawd have mercy: can we give someone who receives negative comments an honest compliment without it being an indictment of the (that portion) of the gay community?
grindr is for thirst queens, if you are looking for something more than a fix for your sex addiction its really not where you go. the straight "dating" apps aren't any better, people are shallow.
I find it pretty scary that a lot of the street interviews were all like "Yeah, gays are obsessed, but it's necessary to go to the gym and look this way".
"Your value is how you look"
"If you don't have a six pack, you're not getting laid"
"If I had a choice, i would just rather stay in my bed"
They all seem to feel like they don't have a choice. I don't know how much of that is sarcasm, but not a single one of those guys actually seemed to be promoting loving yourself however you are.
Very depressing.
xaosyn I mean in my experience, they're all right. If you want to be valuable to other gay men, you have to fit their fantasy. And most of the times that fantasy is "fuckin ripped dude."
The most disgusting part is that they pretend that it's about health.
When really you can be heavier and be doing everything you can to be healthy and not look the way they want you to.
Like it or not, aside from genetics and some people just not being able to lose weight that easily . . . some people can be eating better than a skinny person, exercising more and have a screwed up thyroid or have to take a medication that makes them gain anyway and there might not be a substitute or way that they can get the substitute. ( health insurance might not pay for it, allergies, it might not work for them, it might give them different symptoms. Etc. )
But while there are heavy people TRYING to better themselves we're beating them down and some wannabe fitness junky who is eating on a fad diet or eating the same stuff with a faster metabolism is judging when his body is actually getting as wrecked if not more.
Gay life is depressing
If you love yourself and your body you go to gym. it's not a hard concept. he only cares about his body because otherwise he doesn't get laid? Well good any reason that prevents guys to be fat unhealthy fucks is a good reason. Any man who puts effort to look fit and attractive loves himself more than all the lazy fat libtards in the "fat acceptance" movement. Now if that movement actually moved, it wouldn't be a thing.
Dark You're very uneducated. Try again sweetart
The “unfit” guy isn’t even unfit they should’ve choose a really more thicc/chubby guy that would’ve been more of a better demographic
Well, that's because there's fat and there's gay fat :)
@@nathanliteroy9835 This.. people trying to act like there isn't a distinction in the community.
Interesting, that they avoided speaking about the "fit" guys experience being the "fat" guy..... I'll take it he did not get a positive response as he usually does.
Maybe he did get a positive response and they didn't show it because it doesn't fit the narrative they're trying to spin.
xcrunner trackrunner what narrative is that? There’s documented proof that overweight men have a much more difficult time not being insulted or harassed on Grindr compared to fit men who go to the gym 7 hours a day.
The narrative that only toned men get positive responses on grindr.
xcrunner trackrunner that isn’t the narrative displayed. It does occur. It occurs a fraction of the time compared to men who are gym-fit or toned.
Yes the narrative they're trying to display is that is somehow wrong that fit guys get more positive responses.
“I’m gonna head out to West Hollywood and destroy people’s lives!” - love that.
The "unfit" guy was way hotter than the "fit" guy, though tbh I'm not sure what the major difference was. A pooch? Did the "unfit" guy even have a belly? Or was he just short? Kinda vague there.
xoanwahn he's definitely better looking, but if you don't live in the gym, some gymrats think you're not good enough
Make these longer pleasee
For real. You can't really get much info in 3+ minutes. I don't think the viewers would mind if the video was like 6-8 minutes.
Wow that asian dude at 1:14 😋
The guy at 1:14 is so cute and the “unfit” guy is way cuter and the fit guy is ugly tbh 😗
everyone has there own insecurities, maybe that's why he decided to be "fit"
Agreed!
eww this is homophobic
Lifewithbri
The fit guy is not ugly, but that hairstyle he wears is just stupid. You can't be attractive with that hairstyle, no matter how perfect your body is. Fact.
GOD HES SO MY TYPE THAT ASIAN GUY OMG
Number one the "not ripped guy" has a normal body, if they want really to tackle the issue they should've had a chubby guy
Boring
That wouldn't help to push agenda and virtue signal because about everyone would be disgusted in comments and wouldn't want to have sex with the that fat guy even lefties with their sjw beliefs that people owe you sex somehow.
Also it's a non issue, dating is biased by nature. We can't control our preferences. You're gay you should that better than anyone else.
Whats funny is that the 'bigger' guy in the video isn't even big....i would guess a 34 inch waist. Stupid video. Important subject....executed terribly!
We all know that there is "fat" and "fat" in the gay community
And what did we learn?
Brain cells can be lost without the need for alcohol.
So can abs. Bring on the Twinkies!
And so can fat! Bring on the twinks!
Oh wait, no twinks "grind" on "fat" guys...
Yay! Judgy Judy in the house! 📜 What's on _your_ laundry list of requirements in a man?
I'm sorry but the "fit" guy was not the more attractive guy, I would take the other one any day
That´s why We should not compare people at all. Everybody has different ideals.
luisdiegors yeah I don’t like escorts/ pornstars
Love the host. Makeup - check. Attitude - check. DRESS - check. Mmm gorge!!
Grindr has taught me that shallowness is really important! I have met such a jerks in that app!!!!
It’s hard to be confident with your body when you see men with the “perfect” body getting celebrated everywhere you look and they get whatever they want. Society tells us “look like this” and then you have things like this that are all about body positivity. As long as society keeps celebrating that perfect body there will be no body positivity and there will be body shaming by others and by your own self.
Kandy Kane Exactly!!
What you're describing is known as "The Halo Effect" if anyone wants to research it. It's a psychological effect.
I have to agree with that.
True
Society is hard on women as sexual figures they need to abide by a certain standard that is often appropriated and only made more intense and strict by other women. --- As gay men, we're attracted to eachother and do this to ourselves and it's unfortunate and disgusting...
Everyone wants a pay on the back for being semi-relatable or human by being like " Oh, I care about more than someone's body. I care about a great personality and face too. " ---- When it's accompanied by a great body, therefor negating the first half of the statement. Like, people say that shit like it makes them better but they literally are saying " You don't have to give me $10k, I'll also accept $20k "
"Let it go" says the guy who works out and goes to the gym. Uhm sure.
Thats wby I envy straight men sooo much, they dont worry about this stuff obsessively, women also love them for other things and also sometimes more if theyre not that hot because they know that a family man should be a normal man not a calvin klein model
but they secretly thirst for Calvin Klien models!
Yea straight people have that "normal" to fall back on. But that's looking on the outside in. On the inside, some men feel that women are "crazy" and feel that women are manipulative and they'll just be that way. So men get in these relationships with controlling women and be feeling miserable.
For women, they think "Oh he's just had a bad life, that's why he's always mad" when referring to men who got anger issues. Straight men don't give themselves much privilege to be emotional since it's considered "gay" for a man to be emotional.
So it's not all that great being straight. I mean some straight men are the way they are because they have no reason to be otherwise. Gay people have the privilege to be whoever we want and we can say "we're expressing ourselves from being oppressed". Probably why straight people get called "boring" or "vanilla". LoL!!
summeroflove Of course they might desire them in a physical way but trust me, most women if not all want their husbands NOT to look that attractive so that they wont drag attention from other women. I had friends that forbid their boyfriends going to gym etc And in a way, thats kinda a win win situation since men wont have to be so self conscious about themselves as much as when they were single, unlike gay world where you are expected to look good until the end.
InfiniteBeach34 The overwhelming majority of my friends are straight women, and they all care about their boyfriends/husbands appearence quite a lot actually. They encourage them to manscape, work out etc. I think its a misnomer that women dont care that much about appearence.
Sam Dude Well I think you live in a big cosmopolitan city, majority of suburban couples with childfen and people in more rural areas are like that, if they put on some weight, their wife will just laught it off at dinner time and he will say he is proud of his tummy. But God forbid same thing happens in an urban gay couple, the fat dude will probably be dumped or worse, cheated on.
Oh my god I'm not obese or skinny and I exercise 5 days a week but I've been told that I was fat by gay standards. I can only imagine how much worse it is in America.
Oh it’s so much worse...
I love beefy guys
mrrayzor1995 marry me then!😂😂😂
I think they hit the spot in this body episode by picking cute chubbier guy and not so cute ripped guy showing that sometimes its all about the body. Cmon lets be real the ripped guy doesnt have much on the face department.
Rainando Or personality.
True I care alot about face too and personality, but still preferences are preferences and those who want abs it's fine. Personally no abs is fine to me as long he is still fit and has little to no stomach, but I would never date someone who is fat, it's just me being naturally attracted to healthy people like about everyone else, wouldn't bang a landwhale.
@@harshnemesis Oh. You're one of those.
+Daikamaitachi One of what? One of guys who prefer healthy guys over landwhales? What's wrong with that? If you really love your body, stop SJWing lose some weight and even if that doesn't help you getting a boyfriend because you're still ugly, you will be healthy and your body will thank you.
I just wish they picked someone who was maybe actually overweight. People have different body structures and the same weight doesn't look the same on everyone even if they're the same height. He could lose 20 lbs and still look a little thicc but he is far from even being chubby. This was like " Oh, we're going to tackle an issue " and then didn't tackle it and probably couldn't because there was a miscast
A wise individual once said,
"Sometimes, your type is the reason why you're single."
Sure, being fit/hot may get you laid a lot more, but how many of them are engaging in healthy relationships?
wow, True!!!
Thank you for bringing this up. As a muscular homosexual, I prefer the same type as long as that person has a healthy personality and behavior.
I feel like I got nowhere watching this. And everyone saying the guy with the abs is ugly is literally the definition of hypocrisy
Both guys were fine to be honest. I feel that the only reason the fit guy is getting those kinds of comments is because he has a fit body.
Or I would say preferences. Not all men that got abs are attractive to some people. Again, you can't always please everybody.
Reginald
Finally someone gets it. People complain about bodyshaming, and then you get a comments section cluttered by dumbasses "face-shaming" a guy who happens to be not ugly at all.
Reginald you can fix a body u can’t fix a face.
the abs guy face is not attractive... sorry but its the truth. He has a great chest, but not a face...
“I love my life sometimes” Girl you deserve to ALWAYS love your life!
Uh.....social media,the internet DOES mirror,reflect, what’s going on in the “real world.” HELLO!? Most gay men are obsessed with how they look AND how others look at them. ESPECIALLY those that are into working out. And the blatant disrespect,discrimination,body shaming comes from those same gay men. Rarely do these guys,step “out of the box” to even consider dating,”whatever “ anyone who doesn’t look like them. Is this what community is about?
regguyftl65 Don salty fatty
Pretty much yes.
regguyftl65 Don
Umm... no? Why do people expect everyone to adhere to the so-called "community" and its non written rules and act with fraternization just because we have a random trait in common? Every individual is different and have their own thoughts and ideals, you can't expect every gay in the world to be kind to other gay guys just because we share the same sexual orientation.
"Community" means you're living with many different people, with very different views about everything. Yes, there are rude and disrespectful people. Just don't blame a group because of them and move on to someone who is more worthy of your time, and never take it personally for your own sake.
regguyftl65 Don
Buddy, this is an issue for straight people as well. The problem is, there are only 100,000,000 gay people meanwhile there are 7 billion straight people. Since the population is small, certain issues are more prevalent. Seriously, you should know why girls only date certain guys.
I hope one day We will be a real community and not a competition. That´s infantile.
Maybe build real, valuable and fulfilling relationships instead of permanently look for hookups? It's just sad seeing the emotional vaccum and shallowness in the gay community. Ah, males...
Okay but let's swap a white persons profile with a POC's profile. That'll give you some perspective.
#TeamGayFat
But seriously, it's just Grindr. Nothing personal.
I go though this everyday because im a bigger guy nobody wants to talk to me why does everything have to be about looks so i get called ugly all the time
You shouldn't be called ugly just for existing so that's wrong but the reality is that most men care about looks and it's just the way it is. This isn't to say that all guys are into the same Muscular/Gym-fit bodies, it's a matter of finding the guys who are into - insert body here - You should try bear dating circles.
Idk what the “chubby” guy is complaining about he’s fine as fuck. I think if they wanted to do this “experiment” they should of done 2 extremely opposite body types. They went from a fit guy to a slightly thicker fit guy.... yup diversity.
it does not mean you have a great body you are 100% healthy... steroids steroids steroids is not healthy remember???? lol... i even know people who got nice bodies who ended up in the hospital due to illness...
Tf i dont even into that kinda absy person, you want your beef thick and tender, not fucking hard to eat 👀
Ps: that guy you use to representing ‘fat’ guy, aint even fat
2:24 I will say this it's easy to give that type of advice standing in a glass house... especially after he even made comments himself about being "obsessed" with himself....
Fit doesn't mean healthy.
You can be healthy being skinny, average or fat.
I love how the "heavy" guy is anything but. Even when gay men attempt to point out their discrimination within our own subculture they do it in an offensive way. There will always be someone bigger than you and smaller than you, richer than you and poorer than you. Embrace who you are and love yourself, if you don't, you can't expect anyone else to.
Longer videos ...........
Please 😁😁
Having a six pack and being "healthy" are completely different things
I don't have a ripped body and my sex life is just fine. Thing is I don't chase gym rats because I'm not one. I don't work out obsessively and I wouldn't want to be with someone who does because it doesn't interest me. So of course anyone who's ripped is going to want to be with someone else that is ripped because they both spend a huge chunk of their time in the gym. But that's what media focuses on because its nice eye candy. My interests are elsewhere. Hell me and my boyfriend will sit back at a bar or a club and talk about the hot bodies walking around. But when we go home we're sleeping with each other, not them. :)
0:57 not true but okay
I’m still here waiting to see the “unfit” guy show up in this video! Seems like The person who picked the cast also needs a reality check!
I don't buy this, your average doesn't work out guy next door type can do well and get plenty of interest. I think a lot of this "body shaming" idea comes from guys who aren't confident, and not being confident is for many the real problem. Without confidence guys act and talk very differently, this really affects the conversations they have.
This is so myopic and pointless. I'm middle-aged fat guy and there are people out there who are way into it. You don't have to be a gym bunny to get laid anymore thanks to the internet. We can all connect to each other so easily now that the stereotypes are crumbling. Tastes are actually as diverse and colorful as the rainbow, really!
Exactly! Some people are SO quick to victimize themselves... It's really strange.
Pariah Carey yeah insecure victims are easy prey, create a video that taps into it and you have instant ckickbait! Hooray for asshole!
BUEAU yeah or just find someone who has your body type so you don’t feel insecure
I like the cuter guys, and the chubby one in the video is definitely cute, my dudes.
both guys are actually skinny and attractive..... great job what the flip
I’ll take Average and love handles with chemistry over a perfect body any day!
The gay community has a lot to work on. Whoever finds love within it can feel like they won the lottery for it is extremely hard to do so; especially since it is all based on looks.
the pressure to have a good body, although very present in the gay community, is also present everywhere in society. not every gay goes to the gym.
This also needs to be thought about contextually. are most people on grindr looking for a long term relationship or are they looking for a spicy hook up? of course it's better to hook up with someone with whom you can connect to emotionally, beyond physical appearance. that's what healthy relationships are all about, personality and common interests.
it all boils down to intention. i think that when u have people looking for casual hook ups and people looking for something more committed on the same platform, is when all these crazy standards and expectations are created
Beauty fades, dumb is forever.
Awwww!!! The "unfit" guy was cute too :3 I wanna date him 😍
I feel so good knowing that I can never be a subject to all this judgment and expectations because I don't do grindr or any hookup apps or meet people or even make an effort and step out of my house for a date. I am too pre-occupied with my single self and too proud to let some guy judge me and worse reject me. I love the way I am and won't let myself be an option to some random person on an app.
No one is on Grindr for love, it is just lust & everyone is in search of a better option
@HiteshPunjabi Dang that was hard to here but you probably right 😔
No, not EVERYBODY has a specific type. I have been skinny, I've had the fit body, I'm been overweight, and now I'm a little chubby. I had one thing in common after all of those pant sizes, a horrible sense of confidence and self-esteem. After taking a step back and really looking at myself, I'm pretty content to staying healthy (mentally and physically) without becoming vain and self-indulgent. That's the place I'd rather be! I've had more success with men actually...who knew!
The asian man talking about rather staying in bed. Same sis.
Aunt Jemima literally. i started working out after my break up because i wanted a change. plus at the time, my “happy weight” got me to 185 which was very heavy for my body frame (5’8, 24 y/o at the time). fast forward to now (2 years later) i’ve learned to love myself, and the avenue to get here for me is to be healthy and fit.
but tbh, id rather staying in bed watching shows too.
That asian guy at 0:58 is hot af... anyone got his insta?
Tyler Woods
I feel you, I thought you were Tiger Woods 😐
Lmaoo, I've had that as a nickname, but I'm not named after the golfer.
Someone find his insta please lol
Ay3weiwei. You’re welcome.
People have preferences, saying “you don’t have to adhere to those specific things” is ignorant. If people don’t want to fuck you because you’re fat then they don’t have to. You don’t get to tell people to change themselves or what they like because you find them attractive.
So what's the point of this video because it didn't seem to dive very deep into this real issue affecting the community? As someone else mentioned, they didn't even talk about the messages the "non-fit" guy got. So much missed opportunity to start real dialog here.
Omg Ben “the unfit one” is sooo cute.
but the "unfit" dude is waaaay more my type lmao like? He's hella cute tf.
Personality is more important then look if you are looking for your future husband.
Why was this in my recommended? 😂
Thats so stupid, everybody is different and everybody has different ideals. STOP COMPARING, everybody is beautiful, no matter what race, size, shape.
Most people are saying you have to be fit or muscular or have a 6pack to be "good enough," but few if any are clarifying "good enough" for what?
Good enough to be a one night stand? Sure. Good enough to be a boyfriend? Maybe. Good enough to just hangout? Absolutely not. It's when these physical preferences (body type AND I'll throw in RACE while i'm here) start getting in the way of non-physical things that they become problematic.
1:43 call me! 😍🐻
1:14 this guy😍 ugh
ig: ay3weiwei
I didn’t know what I was looking at in the thumbnail
Just wanna point out these shallow excuses of human beings don't represent the majority of the gay community... hedonism, smh.
I'm confused because the "unfit" guy isn't even big, fat, or overweight...He's just an average-sized guy
two white, cisgender, gay slim/fit guys swap accounts isnt groundbreaking, if you're account is called "Into More," then show ~more~
Maybe you'll consider that "body shaming" too, but the "fit guy" isn't even that fit... :)
Ummm I think the point is.... why are we trying to impress guys who are on grindr. It’s grindr!!! The bottom of the barrel, obviously hiding behind their six pack.
I lost 150 lbs and I’m still not considered fit. I’m considered fat. I’m a size 36. It’s average in straight world but in gay world? I’m a fat pig. I’ve been told that lol it hurts but eh, I just keep it loving.
I love how you got 2 guys and said it was
“2 different body types”
Yet they look the fucking same 😂🤷🏻♂️
First one was better. I mean better produced. This one is a bit sloppy and not to put shade one the talent here but I kinda feel they fell short.
The « not ripped » guy is more attractive and has a nicer personality. I actually don’t like ripped guys, I prefer beefy guys that look natural. I find these so called perfect bodies suspicious. 🤔
Anyone else check their phone when they reached the title card at the end of the video?
Lol.... I still think the fit guy looks better than unfit guy. Seem like I can own the fit guy alone here. Hahaha....
I'm not sure what point this video is trying to make. Are they saying that handsome guys should feel morally obligated to have charity sex with ugly guys so as not to hurt their feelings? If you can't handle rejection, stay away from Grind or any hook-up app.
The funny part is that the "big" guy is more clasically attractive. You can always get a 6-pack, but busted is forever #buttershaming
Here's a thought: People also have preferences. I will not sleep with someone who is fat. I do not find obesity attractive. Call me whatever you want. No, you don't need a ripped beach body, but take care of yourself? I don't find it attractive.
It's simple really. Self confidence to me is SOOO much more sexy than a tight bod. I don't fuck with people who are that shallow to begin with. Never be afraid to message people! If they don't fuck with you because of this or that they are missing out!
This hypocrisy of this topic and comments. And folks wonder why they have issues getting to know people and dating.
As a "cubby" guy, I am more in line with the bear community. I am all fine if a "fit muscle hunk" does not want me.. But I've had some experiences on grindr where Bears are just too picky.. I am either not fat enough, or bearish enough.. That makes me feel hopeless to find love or a date..
it's not body shaming it's dating which is biased by nature and since you're gay you should know that better than anyone else. Nobody owes you sex. get over yourself and stop SJWing.
It's ok if you are unfit as long as you are also looking for unfit, but if you want something more, you'll need something more...
"if u dont have sixpack you will never getting laid" honey i dont even have abs, and i already got laid since i was 19 with someone that i called my Man till this day, gurl wyd?😩🤔🤔
I'm a french guy living in Paris, i'm a bit fat and hairy, and i'm really surprised when i read all those comments because even with my body type i never got any problem to get laid, and guys who work 5hour a day to have "the perfect body" don't please me more than the others (a bit less in fact). I think you have to embrace what you are, accept that you can't please to everybody anyway, and be confident with iyour body, because confidence is the sexyest thing, more than muscles.
Never changed your body for they Gay community because someone one love. You they way your are not for having muscles six pack wherever. One day you get older that hard work. You have. Gonna gonna be flaccid so. Just learned in the time time i love they way I’m love the way looks. Don’t need to transform to another guy who I don’t feel the same way. So I’m proud to to be otter Latino and hairy.
Love the guys that bullshit themselves into thinking that because they have a six pack they are healthy.... lolol it means you have strong abdominal muscles and a low percentage of body fat in your torso... you could still have a host of major problems. And before someone jumps in the other guy is not considered “fit” but do you think he is unhealthy?!
Maaannn, what's hot tho? It's really different from person to person. But what is broadly true is that dudes are gross and are fucking whatever is around them. Do what you want to with your body just make sure you're honest about what is actually healthy for you.
How about people be happy with themselves and not constantly seek validation from other people. The whole "seeing people with nice bodies makes me insecure" is so tired. #growup #stopworryingaboutthenextbitch
I don't agree with that "if you don't have a six pack, you won't get laid" comment. I could care less if they have abs, as long as they're not overly hairy and watch their weight at least a little, then I'm fine.
Both of the guys you used are fit. You could have used an actual fat guy, but you went the easy way out.