TNT Podcast | Oliver Anthony - Rich Men North of Richmond Lyric Discussion
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My family had food stamps at one time back in the seventies blind mother with five kids and hubby left. You could not purchase junk food or prepared at that time. No chips, cookies,pop,lunch meat etc.. they were for milk, eggs,fruits, veggies,meat, oatmeal, non sugary cereal etc...
Yup. Nestle and their ilk had to lobby their way into it to fuck over Americans even more.
I grew up on welfare as a kid in NY. was homeless at 15...live in Georgia with my own construction business now, would rather have opportunity than be content with the crumbs...be surprised how many willing to sign their souls over to the government for various reasons...for crumbs
We need to go back to that
He made a video in which he clarified the welfare statement about obese and fudge rounds. He was watching a news segment about how welfare money is spent on average. The percentage of that money being spent on junk food instead of healthy food was extreme. And that's what those lines are about. He has nothing against welfare itself. It's the welfare system that allows that to happen that he doesn't like
Ever priced out “healthy” diet options vs Kraft dinner? Ever had to feed healthy food to 2 or 3 kids plus yourself on a welfare income?
@@dongangeI hear you, healthy food is expensive and that's the problem.
I mean, people on welfare often lack education (because that is even more expensive in the US) and therefore awareness. And as already said, healthy food is also quite expensive. It is fucked up but (solely) blaming them won’t solve anything. The problem is much more profound. It just sucks being way done on the social ladder/gradient in the US. That must change.
To begin with, I don't buy that he is that naïve that he didn't know how that would be taken: he just didn't expect to get that much attention for it.
The problem is not that food stamps shouldn't cover fudge rounds: poor children deserve to have snacks in their packed lunches, too, for crying out loud. The problem is the way that the government subsidizes agriculture for a narrow selection of foods that benefit a few massive corporations, while allowing those corporations to gouge the actual farmers. The current system makes it impossible for farmers to make a living selling directly to grocery stores. It makes us rely on niche farmers and farms overseas for anything except for a handful of cash crops that are used for feed, meal, and exports, which benefit big corporations yet again.
My family came from coal country and the use of scrip is very real. This was a way to keep the miners in a form of slavery. The song Sixteen Tons documents that very well. Everything in this song is about keeping people in some form of economic slavery in one way or another.
Thank you for highlighting the frightening level of suicide among young men. Far too many people gloss over that line in the song. This song touches so many people. The main thing about it is that it is uniting people worldwide.
Nobody speaks of the Battle of Blair Mountain.
Tennessee Ernie Ford. I owe my soul to the company store.
Just keep doing what your doing if some people are upset about that song that's their problem.
Record companies would never let that song out. They say what songs are allowed
Or not just company money, they allowed the miners to run up credit at the "company store", which is what Tennessee Ernie Ford sang about in "16 Tons". I owe my soul to the Company Store. Can't leave the company, can't quit working, because you owe the company too much.
I live in Indiana and I worked at a coal mine for 20 years and then went back after 2 years to a different mine...the last year at my first job I made 89K working in the warehouse of the coal mine. Its great money and great benefits...dont know about Virginia but everywhere around here and southern Illinois pays great...I think what he is talking about is the NWO and how they are taking over DC and basically trying to take over our country and our politicians...and hes right...if we dont stop it...they will take us over. and hes tired of all the BS
This song is resonating worldwide. I have watched reaction videos to the song from people from Canada, England, India, Africa, Pakistan, and Australia. They express the same sentiments. And they are breaking down into tears. It is relatable to everyone, because no matter our systems of government, our government have taken a stance of rulership as opposed to representation.
Exactly....tyranny😢
Thank you for coming back and listening to “The Words”!!!! But this man is REAL
His decision wasn't "8 million or remain where he was" -- because since the song has blown up he's been making 40k every day. If I were making 40k every day without a label, I'd easily reject the record label offer. Even if it meant still having less.
If you're referring to $40k/day RUclips money (IDK how this system works, just taking a WAG), YT can demonetize Oliver the very second he steps over whatever political line in the sand they have in mind. If I'm clueless, educate me. That's why we all complain about government being in bed with social media, and shutting us down when we speak truth.
I don't think the line about "taxes ought not to be used for bags of fudge rounds" is a shot against the obese as much as it is a shot against the system that has been put in place. It is estimated that about 30% of food stamp money (over $15 billion per year) is spent on unhealthy junk food like soda, chips, candy, etc,, which then feeds the out-of-control medical industry.
In the song 16-tons, by Tennessee Ernie Ford. He talks about working for the company, getting paid in their money and having to shop at the company store. They lived in company houses. He says "I sold my soul to the company store."
T. You and tasha should listen to this suggestion. Tennessee Ernie Ford. 16 Tons
He is saying the quiet part out loud. Yes these rich men no matter where, politicians, record labels, TV executives, movie executives, basically all media want to control our thoughts and ideas. And if you haven't you should read 1984. He is predicted this kind of control back in 1948. I hope that Oliver keeps it up. And from my understanding he has several other songs that are along this line.
As for the company store thing, "16 Tons" by Tennessee Ernie Ford. Is a good song for the coal mines.
I don't know how much he's making from RUclips and Spotify, but I suspect it's a big number. And he doesn't have to answer to a record label. And he is the very definition of an influencer.
$40,000 per day streaming @ #1....approximate
I fell like we are watching “Oh Brother Where Art Though” playing out in real time. This guy Oliver dropped a new sound on the world and the masses are responding. It’s only a matter of time before the controllers want to use him and his sound to their advantage. I pray Oliver stays true to his cause.
Great commentary.
Oliver Anthony released a lengthy statement on why he didn't take the record deal. It's because he didn't set out to be professional artist with a fleet of tour busses or planes and all that. He doesn't view himself a being a real talented singer or guitar player, just a guy who plays his guitar in his yard and puts it on RUclips. He has struggled with poverty and alcohol, so he's just singing what he knows. He isn't driven by by success in the music industry.
The reason why this resonates with so many is like you said, we ask feel it, but also because the way he songs it. The emotion in his imperfect voice hits so many nerves. Like Kurt Cobain and Layne Stayley's did.
Tasha, you're right it's about what people are really feeling - not just something they imagined. Not all people, but a LOT of people. And "T" you're right about owing the record company so many songs for the upfront money - you hit the nail on the head.
In the classic song "Sixteen Tons" by Tennessee Ernie Ford he sings this line: I load 16 tons and and what do I get? Another day older and deeper in debt. St. Peter don't you call me 'cause I can't go. I owe my soul to the company store." Exactly what you were talking about referring to the money the miners made having to be spent only in the store owned and operated by the mining company.
we gotta emphasize that choosing to flip burgers at McDonalds your whole life without a goal of promotions to management or higher is not something that deserves a "living wage". Burger flipping at McDonalds is a starter job and that is all it is supposed to be. We can be mad at the pay of it but it is up to the individual to work hard, get promoted and acquire higher paid positions. There are people who believe that everyone, regardless of job deserve a living wage and that isn't how it is supposed to work. We are a meritocracy. You gotta earn the higher pay.
Why is "flipping burgers" at McDonalds a starter job? Working for a $207 Billion dollar corporation isn't good enough? What is a "living wage" and why shouldn't someone be able to make that wage making your food?
Actually America is a Plutocracy.
@@gabemoore2840 people say a "living wage" is enough money for someone to be able to support a reasonable lifestyle. Enough to pay for food, rent, ac, internet, etc. This is nonsense. NOBODY deserves a living wage. NOBODY deserves to just start making good money from their first job. People must EARN good money. Nobody is entitled to it. Yes, there are "starter jobs" for a reason. Working fast food is a starter job and not intended to be a career unless you work hard, get promoted and choose to stay in the food industry as a manager or general manager, etc. Once you reach those ranks then yes, your income should improve. The amount of money that McDonalds makes has absolutely nothing to do with anything. They EARNED that 207 billion by starting a business and growing it. They are not obligated to pay anyone a living wage until that person has worked hard and earned it.
@@p8triotmode "People say" What people? No this isn't nonsense because McDonald didn't "earn" a dime. They like other companies under pay and over work their employees to create a profit for their share holders while selling a sub par product to a consumer all too happy to gobble up a $2 sandwich. And yes if someone works for a 207 billion dollar company they DESERVE a living wage and yes the amount of profit Mcdonalds makes vs what they pay DOES MATTER. I'm curious to know what you consider not a "starter job" or what you consider a job worth enough value for someone to earn their right to exist? Because traditional "Living wage" jobs are vanishing quicker then your 20 piece nugget box.
@@gabemoore2840 nobody "deserves" a living wage. You sound like a commie.
you cant get americans to do anything. they get angry online then do nothing in real life. the rich men have moved to maui on cheap land, the new epstein island. Tom McDonald and Adam Calhoun are the only rappers that get to talk shit cuz they are indepedent. got a bunch of hits in the charts. lots of vets like them. American Flags ,dope song. my vet cousin offed himself in 2010. so it's all relatable
We love the two of you!
Agree, loyalty is a one way street. Got laid off because I was over 50 years old and with the company for over 20 years. I ended up with a better job!
So I’ve been at my current job for 10 years , I hate it but with being there so long my pay is decent I reckon at least with retail , no other retail that I see hiring is starting any where near it . And I don’t know what else I could do , once your in retail it’s hard to get out lol . I do be tired and just need to relax when I get home either reading my book or watching reactions , it’s always nice when I see my girl Tasha uploaded a supernatural reaction it’s always something to look forward too lol.
We could all go on strike like the writers but not sure that would go well lol .
Subsidizing food is the least offensive thing for taxes to subsidize. But I have thought the same thing standing in line at the grocery store and seeing people use EBT for sugary crap. I get it. I’m with Oliver. Still though, way at the bottom of my worries. If a month ago he was offered 8 million (before he went viral) who would have blamed him? He’s in a different game now though. He did right.
The real problem with the welfare state is that it destroys community and family and replaces it with an uncaring brutal state that dehumanizes people and traps them in a form of slavery.
Sugary crap is cheaper
The loyalty issue has been going on for decades. The only places I ever worked that cared about their employees and appreciated them, were independent businesses. ( Mom and Pop shops etc.)
Your mother probably understands that, and her argument might be similar to mine. I know my problem is that the younger folks come to work, but don't do their job... then older broken down folks, like myself, get stuck doing twice as much because of it. I am now disabled due to these circumstances. As we age our bodies break down. When you get stuck working twice as hard, our bodies break down faster.
Life isn't easy,and we are fed up,and we're tired of working so hard to support people who flat out manipulate the system so they don't have to, and for the government to rob us and mismanage our money through endless taxation. Y'all are obviously learning about the struggle, from what you said about your 401k.
Trust me though Gen x,and boomers have been dealing with this their whole working lives too! All you can do is vote and hope it helps to change things. If it doesn't, then something else will probably eventually have to happen. If you know, you know.
I think the welfare line needs to be taken in totality of the song. He starts off talking about BS pay and high taxes. Part of those taxes go to those who abuse the system - and all colors of people abuse the system. I see as not fair that he can’t enjoy the fruits of his labor - but others can.
You guys are awesome..God bless you guys
Absolutely touched me awesome song !!
Sharing love for this movement 💜
New sub I love you two! I feel like I’ve known y’all forever and you have great taste.
I’m a meat cutter at a local grocery store and I would say more than half our staff are over 65. My market manager is 60 our cashiers baggers produce people are all near are over 65. The rest are teenagers and the only people my age (43) are just a handful of us.
This was a nice change of format, I enjoyed it. I appreciate your take on it
Read "The Road To Wigan Pier" .My ancestors came from hardscrabble poverty. and are still mean af when confronted by something. This translates into very lovey until you cross them. Then hell breaks loose. I have the same trait I suppress
A lesson from the cabal.
The secret lies in sowing so much confusion on your enemy
To where they cannot Phantom your intent
T ...I went to our GM conference ...one person from our board of directors said and I quote ... your tenure means nothing. I don't care how long you have been around. look around some won't be here next year either by their choice or my choice . .. Won't name the company of course but that hit home with me .. Big Business doesn't give 2 craps about anyone .. come work on tuesday nights ...we have fun
WOW! Omg!😳
Yea, I was lookn for you Thursday. I had to settle for Deja.
I am a severely underemployed obese worker, just like my grandfather (a coal miner) was during The Great Depression.
Although I LOVE Little Debbie Fudge Rounds, I would rather have spaghetti/macaroni, rice, canned pasta, canned chili with beans, loaves of bread, 16-ounce cans of cooked ham, SPAM pork luncheon meat, canned tuna fish, canned sardines (is canned salmon or mackerel a luxury item?), canned peaches, canned pineapple, peanut butter, apple butter, orange marmalade (at $1.50 for a 16-ounce jar, that is a good deal), canned soup, beef and chicken ramen noodle soup, chicken stuffing mix, canned corn, carrots, peas, white hominy, and beets, hot dogs/franks (are they a luxury item?), butter, milk, and apple juice (orange juice and grape juice are luxury items), cheese slices, saltine crackers, black pepper, garlic powder, hot pepper sauce, and Worcestershire sauce. I would appreciate it if the state could help me to get these food items on a weekly basis.
He addressed the welfare lyric. A large percentage of food assistance is spent on junk food.
I'm 5'2" and weigh 350. BUT I pay for my own fudge rounds. I don't know if y'all don't know, welfare used to be paper coupons of various amounts. You were supposed to use the smallest denomination that would pay for your groceries so you would get very little cash back. People would send their kids in with a $10 or $20 coupon to pay for a little bit of groceries so they would get enough cash back to pay for their cigarettes.
Deicide- This Hell we're in.
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I recently heard a statement from Toby Keith. He said is no longer writing songs because he said the stuff he writes wouldn't be played on the radio anymore. He started his own production company years ago, cause he didn't like the direction the big companies were going. He would also produce up and coming artists so they wouldn't be tied to the big record companies.
He said he wants a music ministry not a music career.
I work as an engineer for defense companies - when I started there were retirement plans that the company paid for and the benefits were almost entirely paid by the employer - today there are no pension plans, our benefits cost a serious portion of our salary, and our taxes are way higher. There are more people living in the same space, so why are our taxes higher when there are more people paying for the same roads and such? It is simple - companies do not take care of us - the government wants more of our paycheck - and then we are taxed twice or more on a dollar - so how are things not worse???? A house and car payment has raised multiple times more than our salaries. It is a simple joke! Anyone that thinks things are not bad are stupid young people that have no basis of thier understanding.
I totally agree
I grew up on food stamps with a disabled single mother, i fully agree people do need it, BUT hes right. If youre 500 lbs and mooching off welfare because you cant move you did it to yourself, you made the CHOICE to get that big and destroy your own body. I totally get it because my best friend killed himself after they declined his disability claim for depression yet my aunt made that food choice and gets it because her knees are shot now, shit pisses me off to no end!
here's another music artist that a little over a decade ago was producing great music about issues we were facing then that we still face today. @rebelincmusic created music for a revolution. My favorite "No Song", also "Police State", "Killing the Future", "Broken Man", "Burn", "Let It Go" & many more. You should really check then out. As a reaction or not. Best I can compare them to style wise would be Rage Against the Machine
I find it funny there are Republican and some Democrat politicians latch onto the song without acknowledging they are part of the rich men north of Richmond
Politicians of all stripes are quick to pander. With a few rare exceptions, that’s all they ever do.
I never want to go back to the corporate world...the rules only protected the people that didn't actually work!
Tasha said the politicking was enough for her.
Great discussion and thoughts
Let me tell you something I think was sorta scary and shady ! I worked for a company that asked you to get a life insurance policy the company would pay the monthly premiums and they would have you make them your beneficiary. This was a company that was not loyal to you but they wanted your loyalty and the money off of your death ! Whatcha think about that ?
He is doing very well as a independent like Tom Mcdonald. America First. I've heard that somewhere else. Hmmm.
well, ANOTHER obvious reason from a BUSINESS perspective that taking an $8Mil contract would have been a JOKE, is that in 6 days his song had over 14Mil views. If every one of those views would have been a dollar donated............well, their $8Mil contract and it's "obligations" would seem insulting :)
Yeah the welfare line isn't something that I would say is "technically wrong" -- but I felt it didn't belong in a song with "heavy hitter" issues like high male suicide rate, the dollar not being worth anything and Epstein child trafficking. It was also bound to offend (rightly so or not) a certain segment of the population when the songs intent was to bring people together.
My only criticism of the song, as I still really liked it a lot and didn't even necessarily disagree with those specific statements.
Crazy that people actually got mad about this song
I am no longer watching for signs I'm waiting for the 🎺's to sound.
Love ya both, yeah i know i say it alot, but its truth.
The story on Elon Musk is that he told the powers that be to give him facts about hunger and they never did❤❤❤❤
Lol
Record companies control what you can record. 8 million dollars would just shut him up. Look at Tom MacDonald, he's doing great without the corporate stooges.
He is just venting about the plight of the country as a whole. If someone takes it personally, that's their problem. People have been too pampered.
Thank you!
I would have taken the money. I am not a moral person but I want to be. I hope that makes sense. Maybe I could use part of the 8 million to do good enough?
8 million dollars is not enough for selling one's soul
Interesting comments but this man is singing from his soul, I hope he turned down the 8M for his own integrity. Stay independent and sing it brother and I will support you.
He is referring to minors as in children, yes. The kids on that Island. Not minors working in a mine. With fudge rounds comment he's talking about how the government helps people eat themselves to death...referring to bad health.
In the lyrics he specifically said “miners”.
When you say take care of Americans first , they call you fascist…. I say Americans first..
Oliver Anthony is the man , true talk, unfortunately it's obvious one of the only people in the world to speak the truth, have the balls to fight for the right, to have at least a chance in this corrupt world. Anyway you two reading his song and talking about it, wow, you must not be hurting for money, if people are ignorant enough to not know then screw them. But you guys are boring and get stuff together before you pretend you're some kind of professional reactor, sorry.😢. I can read also, but thanks guys. You cleared so much stuff up for the world 😅.
Those that condemned this song are still asleep
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Riches and those who hold them are not a problem. We all strive to obtain them and according to Dr. Thomas Sowell only 3% are stuck in their class they are born in 97% move within the income brackets throughout their lives. Jesus said
The Love of money is the root of evil. Money and guns are not problems People who do evil are the issue.
The wisest man who ever lived according to Jesus claimed you have no problems money won't fix
Sin is the original ish
They are maD DJT told us years ago
What Musk said when they ask him for billions for the poor ,he ask if they could guarantee that all the money would get to the poor. And you know the rest of the story .
Sure thing like Musk would actually do something to help
And then you got Oprah, what's a millionaire? Oh, excuse me, a billionaire, and then you got the rock. What is a millionaire asking us? Poor broke people for donations.
John 14:6 Jesus said," I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.🙌🙌🙏🙏
Talk to a Vietnam Veteran, if you can find one that's still alive.m
Welfare should ONLY pay for foods like veggies meats and milk tea and sugar salt pepper flower and such not chocolate fudge or any candies, of course clothing and things needed not comfort foods.
The govt blows so much money on useless spending it makes the welfare budget look like a drop in a bucket. How bout we stop supporting welfare countries and keep the money for Americans. Who cares what Americans buy at the grocery store with welfare. That’s a benefit of being an American. The politicians will have you at odds with other Americans while they pilfer the budget in front of your face.
Love y’all. Unite us. Don’t divide us. 🫶🏻🫶🏻
Welfare is complete BS. Why should the working class pay for the lazy? People with disabilities should be the only ones getting help. If you can work you should be working
Review Richmans gold Oliver Anthony omg it’s Beautiful
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bible calls them rich merchants and by the way they using our money to do these things to those kids not to mention to us
Play the song and react.....
We did it’s on the channel
I think he may be a psyop for rural, blue collar, and conservative Americans.
His lyrics say he's selling his soul by working hard. He is normalizing suicide, drinking, etc.
He has 90 acres, no southern accent during interviews, etc.
He is being highly promoted by mainstream media and right wing operatuves.
His rhetoric is designed to whip the right into rage. We work hard to succeed, not whine and get angry.
Just my opinion.
You need to have your tinfoil hat adjusted. It's turned up to the delusional setting. When this song broke he still owed $60,000 on his land and is living in a 20 foot camper trailer he bought for $750. Sit down and shutup.
Virginia Is 4 Lovers, etc; ***MAGA3***
Typical conservative music
Oh Yea, just gloss over the rampant child trafficking subject. That is what THEY want You to do and You complied for fear of getting a strike or what ever. Do You really think We don’t see through this ? Oh, You didn’t really know about that. Really ? Disgusting and Cowardly in My book.
Take your meds Brian
@@Peopleofthesun386 👍🥰
First and foremost,I sincerely apologize for being so harsh, and I enjoyed Your response about the meds. That was a good one, though I’m 64, been in coal mining for 45 years and take no meds whatsoever, legal or illegal. You did touch on the subject I referred to , but neither of You seem to realize how bad it is. It is not just the Epstein debacle, it is rampant and the elite powers that be in DC, on both sides, and most of the upper echelon of Hollyweird are in it up to their ears. Have You heard of the Sound of Freedom documentary? I really wish You would take the time to see it, You might thank Me, and possibly understand Why this is a bit of a sore spot for me when People sidestep the issue. And just for fun, as You mentioned some coal mining history, do You know where the “redneck” thing came from? I respect both of You and figured I owed You an explanation for My somewhat harshness. Sorry.