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Preach on brother, I love running old cheap equipment. I see guys running nice new shit then all of a sudden, you don't see them making hay because the bank got thier equipment back.
I know an old boy that runs a Ford 5000 and a New Holland 479 Haybine, and has for 40 years. Has a couple parts haybines he's picked up over the years. Had roughly 25 beef cows, but now just sells his hay. Older equipment was built back when people cared about their product.
"Tell us how you REALLY feel",. ChuckE.....ROFL. Luv the straight-forward tales of woe with the new Chinesium crap, compared to the old iron. I use Gravely equipment, old school, and my Ford 8N and old John Deere (made in USA stuff). Planned obsolescence/failure with the cheapest metal known to man, just won't do it if you farm or depend on the equipment.
yes, love my Gehl 1465 baler, 479 haybine and Kuhn rake(older model) but parts are getting ridiculously expensive to the point where I think they are trying to get this equipment out of circulation.
I bought a 1470 gehl baler for 650 a 489 haybine for 700 and both perform perfectly. The gehl baler makes a nice tight bale and I can run it with my 35 horse power Massey Ferguson. The baler was missing it's monitor it has electric twine tie. I hooked it up to my harbor freight remote control winch controller that is on my tractor and it works great
I had a 846 with that hand tie knob deal. When I got a tractor with a cab. New Holland dealer had a used. hydraulic tie that I retrofitted to my baler. So I could use it with cabbed tractor
I agree 💯 with everything you said in this video. I’ve been watching you since you started as a kid and I’m glad I found you again man . Thanks for all your videos. I’m also a welder fabricator and also farmed as long as I could afford it lol . I appreciate your honesty man . Keep up the good work. Oh I also bought a lock n lube because of your video and I love it
Those old NH chain balers would bale concrete blocks if they went up the pickup. They don’t roll tight bales though. The springs get stretched and lose tension.
Chuck very sorry that you had such a rough time lately. Hopefully things will go smoother in the next little bit here. Don't be too hard on yourself it's hard not to vent sometimes and try to Just Produce good content. All the Best from Surrey BC Canada
Clearly you never used anything, maybe except from Zetor, made in Europe. In here NH is not considered as quality brand. As for baler my favorite is old Krone KR130 or KR150 preferably with 1,4m pickup and net wrapping. It's simply build, takes whatever you go trough with it, weirdest thing I was balling with it were black currant branches, grease, if I remember correctly, around 6 points it would be nice to do it daily and it's ready to go. New ones still work great and are faster but this one I could use with 47hp tractor in field and between currant rows.
Yes they are tuff and reliable. You will hate it when it chews that apron chain up though. There are so many models of balers out there in between these and electronics that make so much nicer rolls and have very few issues.
I use a vertemer 605 h same no computer just 2 sets of hydraulics and a pto and uses belt not chain those chain can be hell if they ever get bent or broken to fix
@@ernielucas6544 yes its been reliable for me and has no electronics and its simmer to a older one we still use since new a 605 F there is only minor differences in them the most i found is 2 baring on one roller are different and that's about it manically they still make ever part for the things too i have never not been able to not find parts tho some parts are cheaper to have made than bought
My dad had a chain bailer like that when he was still able to work years ago. I hated that thing because it always worked. The only thing I liked about it was it meant I did have to tote square bales anymore. He would tell me to wait for 45 minutes to an hour and then bring the baler because I usually caught up to him raking and would have to stop and wait. 😂
I love my old equipment but the production just isn’t there those old balers are slow and would take forever to make my 3k bales a year. We use a 605n and make half dry and half silage bales.
There is some really great newer equipment that has stepped away from a lot of the electronics but the price is still ridiculous. Square balers can be the bane of existence but are super simple Chuck. You buy a used square baler and make SURE the knotter parts are new an its timed correct and they will run forever.
I looked at few chain balers. Every single one I looked out was ran hard and put up wet. Every sprocket was shot, and the chains were always trash. I ended up buying an open chamber New Idea.
New equipment is designed on a computer to be light weight and functional. Problem is light weight in farm equipment equals failure. New Holland was fighting to keep its reputation as quality farm equipment. New equipment makes there money with volume production and $3000.00 pto shafts.
The chain balers were great as long as you aren't making haylage. Great if you are selling by the bale too. They are so loose compared to a modern baler. I love old equipment but there are tradeoffs. Trust me there is alot of testing on new equipment.
Equipment failures follow a 'bathtub' chart: many early problems like you had and then as the equipment ages many late problems. Some designs have a narrow bathtub trough just big enough to toss a cat in while the best has a hippo or elephant sized basin to splash around in for decades before any real issues. Store this baler inside, even if you need to just throw up a carport with bent lumber and second hand tin.
Something like a baler should not have no need for electronics. Manufacturers put electronics on everything. Maybe notebooks will have electronics. lol.
One of the biggest mistakes people make with farm equipment is leaving it out in the weather!!! Never pressure wash a baler; only blower or air compressor.
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New Holland made a name building good hay equipment. They got bought by Ford and they were ok then but once Fiat bought New Holland they went down hill.
Chain balers are literally the biggest pile of $$$$$ ever conceived. In light windrows it will literally grind the bale down to where the bale actually gets smaller while baling.
I really wish you would quit beating around the bush and tell us what you REALLY think LOL If it ain't broke don't fix it, won't sell many new machines LOL. Cheers from Tokyo!
Man, while I do agree that stuff isn't made like it used to be, I'm glad it isn't. Honestly, when you are pushing 4-8 thousand bales per year, its impossible to run one of those. Between operator fatigue, parts scarcity, and the bales that are so loose you could stick a 2ft tree trunk in them, you would make no money with one of those. Plus on top of this, I've never seen a round baler that was over 10 years old put up hay like our baler will. As an aside, when you are trashing other equipment, show both pieces. If you only show one, you are creating a fallacy and not allowing viewers to develop their own opinion.
What's the difference? About 10 yrs of abuse? Nope, cheap engineering. And, since you hate carbonates so much, you would really like steam, I know you hang out with Steve and them around all those steam engines, or, better yet, safer, and more modern turnkey and go without waiting is a diesel turned HHO, water seperated into hydrogen and oxygen then drawn into the intake. Simple system, a bit of stainless, an extra water tank, a bit of electrolytes, at most, an extra alternator and battery, but, other than the initial exspenses, FUEL for the cost of the electrolytes.
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Preach on brother, I love running old cheap equipment. I see guys running nice new shit then all of a sudden, you don't see them making hay because the bank got thier equipment back.
I know an old boy that runs a Ford 5000 and a New Holland 479 Haybine, and has for 40 years. Has a couple parts haybines he's picked up over the years. Had roughly 25 beef cows, but now just sells his hay. Older equipment was built back when people cared about their product.
I'm not use to you dropping the F-bombs Chucky! Totally caught me off guard. Ha ha
I glad the $500 Baler fu••ing works. Love it.
Couldn't agree more. I only have 2 pieces of equipment newer than 30 years old. Nothing beats the quality of old iron. Good video's.
"Tell us how you REALLY feel",. ChuckE.....ROFL. Luv the straight-forward tales of woe with the new Chinesium crap, compared to the old iron. I use Gravely equipment, old school, and my Ford 8N and old John Deere (made in USA stuff). Planned obsolescence/failure with the cheapest metal known to man, just won't do it if you farm or depend on the equipment.
My dad and his buddy use to bale with the exact sample baler. They are loud but flat out work
yes, love my Gehl 1465 baler, 479 haybine and Kuhn rake(older model) but parts are getting ridiculously expensive to the point where I think they are trying to get this equipment out of circulation.
That is the plan.
I bought a 1470 gehl baler for 650 a 489 haybine for 700 and both perform perfectly. The gehl baler makes a nice tight bale and I can run it with my 35 horse power Massey Ferguson. The baler was missing it's monitor it has electric twine tie. I hooked it up to my harbor freight remote control winch controller that is on my tractor and it works great
And it helps if the equipment sat in yard is something you like looking at because it works 🤗
I had a 846 with that hand tie knob deal. When I got a tractor with a cab. New Holland dealer had a used. hydraulic tie that I retrofitted to my baler. So I could use it with cabbed tractor
We put a satellite dish arm on our twine arm. Works great. just a 3 way switch we throw in the cab, plug it in to the trailer plug.
We bought the same one 10 years ago.
200$
Still works won’t quit
I agree 💯 with everything you said in this video. I’ve been watching you since you started as a kid and I’m glad I found you again man . Thanks for all your videos. I’m also a welder fabricator and also farmed as long as I could afford it lol . I appreciate your honesty man . Keep up the good work. Oh I also bought a lock n lube because of your video and I love it
Those old NH chain balers would bale concrete blocks if they went up the pickup. They don’t roll tight bales though. The springs get stretched and lose tension.
I believe it works !
Chuck is getting radical in his old days but he is right on
Just remember the more complicated the machine the easier it is to brake
we had all sperry NH equipment . and David Brown and massy tractors. late 70s early 80s , it was built to last.
Chuck very sorry that you had such a rough time lately. Hopefully things will go smoother in the next little bit here. Don't be too hard on yourself it's hard not to vent sometimes and try to Just Produce good content.
All the Best from Surrey BC Canada
IF FARMING WAS EASY, EVERYBODY BE DOING IT...
Sounds like the heats getting to you. Take a break, before you blow a gasket. 😂😂😂
I would add the hydraulic twine arm if you could find one used. They work well no electronics.
Excellent
Clearly you never used anything, maybe except from Zetor, made in Europe. In here NH is not considered as quality brand. As for baler my favorite is old Krone KR130 or KR150 preferably with 1,4m pickup and net wrapping. It's simply build, takes whatever you go trough with it, weirdest thing I was balling with it were black currant branches, grease, if I remember correctly, around 6 points it would be nice to do it daily and it's ready to go. New ones still work great and are faster but this one I could use with 47hp tractor in field and between currant rows.
What’s the curse word he bleeps out? Fu-*-king? Those bleeps are so effective I can’t understand the cursing. 😂
they are perfect bleeps......just enough to say he tried and maybe keep the youtube ai overlord confused
@@kazzxtrismus True. I still find them funny.
Mine was not bleeped out, must be in the settings somewhere.
you do know that its your job to control that right?@@ronaldchurch6356
Yes they are tuff and reliable. You will hate it when it chews that apron chain up though. There are so many models of balers out there in between these and electronics that make so much nicer rolls and have very few issues.
Don't pressure wash it, leaf blower or air compressor only on a baler.
This is great advice. Thanks.
Awesome video ! You on point.. that's why I drive an old 7.3 and use old IH 966, IH 584, King disc, JD B Grain Drill etc.. Enjoy your videos!!
Hi Chuck. What happened to the Vermeer baler? Did you return it to the dealer and get your money back?
Damn right, new equipment is made to fail. I have older John Deere tractors with no computers and no problems as well as implements.
I use a vertemer 605 h same no computer just 2 sets of hydraulics and a pto and uses belt not chain those chain can be hell if they ever get bent or broken to fix
You like that 605H? Was looking at one the other day
@@ernielucas6544 yes its been reliable for me and has no electronics and its simmer to a older one we still use since new a 605 F there is only minor differences in them the most i found is 2 baring on one roller are different and that's about it manically they still make ever part for the things too i have never not been able to not find parts tho some parts are cheaper to have made than bought
My dad had a chain bailer like that when he was still able to work years ago. I hated that thing because it always worked. The only thing I liked about it was it meant I did have to tote square bales anymore. He would tell me to wait for 45 minutes to an hour and then bring the baler because I usually caught up to him raking and would have to stop and wait. 😂
I love my old equipment but the production just isn’t there those old balers are slow and would take forever to make my 3k bales a year. We use a 605n and make half dry and half silage bales.
There is some really great newer equipment that has stepped away from a lot of the electronics but the price is still ridiculous. Square balers can be the bane of existence but are super simple Chuck. You buy a used square baler and make SURE the knotter parts are new an its timed correct and they will run forever.
I looked at few chain balers. Every single one I looked out was ran hard and put up wet. Every sprocket was shot, and the chains were always trash. I ended up buying an open chamber New Idea.
New equipment is designed on a computer to be light weight and functional. Problem is light weight in farm equipment equals failure. New Holland was fighting to keep its reputation as quality farm equipment. New equipment makes there money with volume production and $3000.00 pto shafts.
Sometimes you gotta use 1 tire on all implements
The chain balers were great as long as you aren't making haylage. Great if you are selling by the bale too. They are so loose compared to a modern baler. I love old equipment but there are tradeoffs. Trust me there is alot of testing on new equipment.
Equipment failures follow a 'bathtub' chart: many early problems like you had and then as the equipment ages many late problems. Some designs have a narrow bathtub trough just big enough to toss a cat in while the best has a hippo or elephant sized basin to splash around in for decades before any real issues. Store this baler inside, even if you need to just throw up a carport with bent lumber and second hand tin.
The f---ing beep is off by just a f----ing tad 🤣
moar farming with stretch
Something like a baler should not have no need for electronics. Manufacturers put electronics on everything. Maybe notebooks will have electronics. lol.
One of the biggest mistakes people make with farm equipment is leaving it out in the weather!!! Never pressure wash a baler; only blower or air compressor.
Fukin right dawgy
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F-bombs for everyone! 😂😂😂
Good content. 👍
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New Holland made a name building good hay equipment. They got bought by Ford and they were ok then but once Fiat bought New Holland they went down hill.
I love this video so much
Chain balers are literally the biggest pile of $$$$$ ever conceived. In light windrows it will literally grind the bale down to where the bale actually gets smaller while baling.
I really wish you would quit beating around the bush and tell us what you REALLY think LOL
If it ain't broke don't fix it, won't sell many new machines LOL.
Cheers from Tokyo!
Why all the F-Bombs? I got kids running around, couldn't finish watching. Ole well enjoy folks, I will wait for the next one.
Man, while I do agree that stuff isn't made like it used to be, I'm glad it isn't. Honestly, when you are pushing 4-8 thousand bales per year, its impossible to run one of those. Between operator fatigue, parts scarcity, and the bales that are so loose you could stick a 2ft tree trunk in them, you would make no money with one of those.
Plus on top of this, I've never seen a round baler that was over 10 years old put up hay like our baler will.
As an aside, when you are trashing other equipment, show both pieces. If you only show one, you are creating a fallacy and not allowing viewers to develop their own opinion.
What's the difference? About 10 yrs of abuse? Nope, cheap engineering. And, since you hate carbonates so much, you would really like steam, I know you hang out with Steve and them around all those steam engines, or, better yet, safer, and more modern turnkey and go without waiting is a diesel turned HHO, water seperated into hydrogen and oxygen then drawn into the intake. Simple system, a bit of stainless, an extra water tank, a bit of electrolytes, at most, an extra alternator and battery, but, other than the initial exspenses, FUEL for the cost of the electrolytes.