Guiding 2 Hunters
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- ATTENTION: For those wondering why Randy didn't use 6.5 Creemoor or some other cartridges being mentioned in the comments: These events took place in the 1960's when Randy was a teen!
Randy relates two different stories of hunters he guided as a young man. His family owned and operated Blackwater Lodge, which is east of Yellowstone National Park and west of Cody, WY.
One story is of two elk hunters he guided, a father and son duo. The other story is of a moose hunter.
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I could sit around the fire and listen to these stories for the rest of the week; they're pure gold!
Great video!! Love Randy's stories!!
Man I could listen to these kinda stories for days and days reminds me of home
I love hearing about real stories. I'm all ears when you speak. I learn every time, and am fed by your real experiences. I listen to all of your videos. Thank you
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I appreciate hearing from you and for you following my videos. We are watching the convoy, etc up in Canada and so proud of the movement to say NO!
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Thanks Randy. Keep'm coming
I think u should do a lot more of these hunting guide stories it reminds me of sitting around my grandparents home had a fireplace and grandpa behunin would tell us about guides he did as a young man when my dad was just a little kid I loved spending time listening to them stories now I'm 40 years old wish we would have been able to record it
I absolutely love your hunting stories! I grew up listening to stories like this from my elders. They become a part of who we are.
Thanks for your stories.., you just brought back all my memories of my dad who told stories time after time in the same way. Definitely could listen to more. You are very much appreciated. Enjoy and let’s do this again👍♥️🇺🇸🙏🏻
You’re a good man, Mr. Randy. And wise. I’m glad technology allows us to visit.
Great stories sir thanks for sharing with us GOD BLESS y’all Amen 🙏
Thanks Randy, as a new hunter I enjoy the stories. Currently working up loads in my 280ai for next deer season Any videos on helping find game would be greatly appreciated. I didn't grow up in a gun and hunting family and lack the knowledge.
I remember, in my first NZDA Branch, that every guy who had upgraded to a 7mm Remington Magnum, in order to shoot a trophy bull tahr down in the South Island; would later buy a .243 Winchester for all his bush hunting. The guy who bought himself a 7x57 or a .270 Winchester would be set for life.
Wonderful stories! That was fun and entertaining to listen to. Please consider doing a series of these types of stories, I know you must have treasure troves of them. God bless you all.
Great stories Randy! I wish you would tell more of your adventures! It would also be interesting to hear about problems you came across gunsmithing. Not many would have taken the time to help that hunter with his shooting problem but you did.
Thank you!
I'm really enjoying your stories. Thanks for all your work, Randy and Cathy!
I could listen to Randy all day..Wealth of knowledge.
I love listening to you. You have changed my whole perspective on cartridges and bullets for hunting. This year I’ve changed bullets I reload with and cartridges. Went with the old faithful cartridges instead of these new hard to find latest and greatest.
Another great video!! A 6mm Rem was always my favorite Pennsylvania whitetail rifle, and a .220 swift was my 2nd favorite. My uncle used a .222 for years. We never shot at running game or in thick brush, we relied on precision and the small calibers didn't ruin a bunch of meat. Most every deer we ever killed ran less than 20 yards and the majority dropped in their tracks. I've never hunted anything the size of elk and would probably want a larger caliber for them, but you've shown that with proper shot placement there is never any need for a caliber capable of stopping a truck. I wouldn't recommend being so conservative if hunting dangerous game though. Love to hear all your stories Randy, brings back memories of being a farm kid and hunting and shooting was all I lived for. I see all these kids today living on their phones and video games and realize how lucky I was and what a wonderful childhood I had. Boy I wish I could go back to those days when the most important things in life were having .22 shells and shotgun shells, snuff or chewing tobacco, and gas for my Frankenstein motorcycles pieced together from 3-4 different brands.
Hey Randy,
Thanks for sharing this with us and all the other down to earth videos. I am a flat lander now residing in Idaho and I'm used to chasing whitetail and have had some issues finding the prime spots for Elk. I'm not looking for the secret spot or anything but is there any advice you can provide about the different forage that the elk prefer as the year progresses. I have no problem finding elk in the off season but have had no luck finding them after season opener. So I'm thinking that I need to find their food source to be more successful. What do you think? Thanks for all the advice you have given with your videos on reloading I have alot if them saved as references as I need them. Keep up the good work. Best regards, Paul
I don't know what part of ID you live in. So their food source and location [especially during season] will depend a lot of that. The best people to ask are some of the old timers in your area.
Good shooting!
Now, I really enjoyed those tales, absolutely fantastic, as you know I'm on the other side of the pond Randy, listening to you reminds me of tales from some of the old boys I used to hunt with as a Yong lad, I will no doubt be recounting tales in this fashion when I'm your age, it's so important to pass these things down, the old skills and knowledge before they pass from memory, these are the things that the anti hunting freternity will never take from us, thank you Randy.
I love my 7mm rem mag and 300wsm but if it's life or death my 30-06 or 270 is my go to rifle.
Those are great stories! Please keep sharing them Mr. Selby.
Happy Easter to you and your Family
Randy thanks for sharing your hunts.
I really enjoy hearing about the things that you know and have done! Real treasure these videos are!
Outstanding! Thank you for sharing!
would love to hear more of these Randy!
Great stories Randy, thanks for sharing!🇺🇸🇨🇦
Terrific stories. Thank you.
Thanks for sharing your videos and keep them coming please.
Great stories. Thanks for sharing 👍
God Bless you Randy. I inhale your knowledge. I understand youre not a young man anymore, but if ya can, More hunting stories please. Love this channel!!
Thanks for sharing
Great stories, glad to hear them.
Thanks for sharing.
Great video sounds like you taught some people some valuable lessons.
You dictate, I'll write, we'll dig up your pics, sounds like a great book!
Thank you Randy for the video a cool stories.keep up the good work and God bless
Need more of these please
Keep em coming. I love a good story. Maybe tell us one about that squatch, lol.
Love the hunt stories.
I really like the 6mm remington.
I have used bigger rifles alot. But I never had a problem using the light rifle.
Yep. That reminded me of the first elk i took with my dad and i am 64
Sir.please WRITE A BOOK .LEAVE AS MANY MEMORIES. AS YOU CAN
Great fireside talks.
I love hunting stories.
You did that man a tremendous favor.
I got A REM. 6mm love it! Love your stories 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏😎😎
Hey Randy sir and hey to your lovely wife to.
Magnum rifle cartridges can cause a flinch but I don’t know that I ever saw anyone turn their head, but I haven’t interacted with near as many people as a guide would.
Great story! Proves you don't need a large caliber magnum cartridge to kill large game.
I witnessed a person scared of his 300 Weatherby Magnum rifle in hunting North Dakota. He shot a standing broadside deer at 200 yards and hit it in the hind quarter. We tracked that deer 2 miles down a ravine to finish it off and had to hold its antlers from dragging while it was winched out. Horrible waste of meat.
I love my Savage 111 in 25-06.
I really enjoy the story's.
I pulled into the access parking lot and saw a BMW Z3 parked there. Surely it must be a hiker’s car. Nope. Guy still had the instruction manual zip tied to his rifle. He asked me if he could hunt deer there. I said yes and sent him up the trail in the opposite direction I was heading for small game.
Yikes!
Randy just write a book on reloading and you life story as Elmer Keith wrote Hell I was there. Time may be short but that's OK. Go for itMAN
These are great stories. The only better way to learn about hunting is to hunt yourself.
I have NEVER been on any guided big game hunt where the guide shoots my rifle! ????? Maybe you mis spoke? Great story though. Love hearing these hunting stories.
I did not misspeak. Back in the day, 50 some years ago, when our hunters came to the lodge, before the hunt, either my Granddad or I would sight in their rifles, as we'd found that "my rifle is sighted in" was not always accurate. A lot of the time, then we'd have the hunter shoot his rifle, and on this hunt, for reasons forgotten over time, Granddad and I didn't have this hunter shoot his rifle after it had been zeroed in. If so, one or both of us would have seen him turning his head away before squeezing the trigger.
Also, understand, besides passage of time, there are people all over who do things differently than others. That was my Granddad's choice as it was his business.
Thanks for watching.
You probably helped out that guy with the 300 for the rest of his hunting life. I suspect that rifle gave him a little scope scar above his eye once before at the range that he couldn’t forget about. Little voice in the back of his head saying “remember the time you were bleeding all over the place after pulling that trigger.”
Tell more stories about guns and calibers.
I was looking at getting a backup rife. I own a 338mag but the ammo is getting hard to come by. I found a good deal on 270win 150gr cor-lockt bullets. I hunted moose for years using a 303british 180gr bullets 2400fps. Killed many moose and Caribou out to 250yrds. I was wondering if a 270win would be a good moose caliber out to 250yards. Or should I buy. 30.06? I don't need another Magnum.
30-06 gets my vote.
.270, 150 gr cor-lockt bullets would be fine for moose. Good hunting and thanks for watching.
Yea tell some more man they are interesting.
My grandfather had problems with people coming to his camp in south Texas with the ultra mags or 7mm stw and others. and they ether couldn’t control the rifle or they was shooting a match style bullet and they style of hunting we did shots would normally be 60-80 yards off of shooting sticks. And people would get fighting mad when he would tell them they couldn’t shoot their gun or their bullets. We had a list of bullets and cartridges that wasn’t aloud when they called to book a hunt
So 25-06 is good for moose? Probably only pushing 115-120gn bullets though huh
Properly placed shots will kill a moose but it is not, per se, a moose rifle.
Thanks for watching.
@@TheRealGunsmith So heart and lungs is what you’re saying, or head shots?
@@308dad8 head shots are never a good idea. A small target that is often moving and a lot of area that will not immediately kill the animal. A bullet striking the the jaw, snout, eye, etc will result in a slow agonizing death. Just behind the shoulder, armpit as Randy called it, that will hit either the heart or BOTH lungs will kill any animal that walks the earth. You may have to patiently wait for that "broad side" shot. Good luck to you and have fun.
I am confused. I agree with you that 6.5 cm is marginal for elk. Why was using 6 mm rem a good choice. Was it do to the recoil mostly.
That would be my assumption.
Hunters that hire a guide are generally paying big dollars to get an animal. Most guides live off a good portion of that money for the remainder of the year.
If I had to guess, Mr. Selby was in one heck of a tough spot. He probably really wanted that gentleman to fill his tag and maybe come back the following year. I doubt the 6mm was his 1st choice. But when a guy is in a tough spot, sometimes exceptions need to be made.
I know of a few hunters that hunt elk with a 243 every year and are mostly successful. Personally, I think a 243 or a 6mm Rem are marginal, at best. But if the hunter is accurate with the shot, those calibers can get the job done in the right set of circumstances.
I think he said this wasn't all that far of a shot and i don't think he ever expected it to be. One of his main arguments on the 6.5 is the fact people want to shoot 7 and 800 yards and at that distance the ft pounds just aren't there anymore. I could kill whitetails all day long with a 22lr but i don't advise people go around trying to do it. Also how the bullet is constructed matters a ton. Notice he said it was a flat base bullet and i imagine not a very rapid expanding one but probably more controlled.
@Trever Thompson he is correct the 6.5 cm is marginal for elk. You should read other people who commented
@@nohillforahighstepper very true also randy always said if your going to spend lots money on life time hunt. Why would you go with a marginal caliber
You didn't listen! The 6.5 Creedmoor wasn't even a thought when these events occurred. Randy was a teen, guiding hunters from his family's business. These two stories took place in the mid-1960's!!
One issue I have is that any fool can go into a gun shop and purchase a big game hunting rifle . Ready to go out and wound some animals. There is no competency requirements for handling and putting rounds where they should accurately go. My camp has a individual that is legally blind he cannot operate any motor vehicle but he hunts. One year he even got a shot off at something first time in 25 years. I’ve been handed guns to sight in for people with no safeties . When I mention this they get pissed off. I mentioned competency testing at my club decade’s ago and I just about got tarred feather and run out of town.
Still not sure how you can say the 6mm Remington out preforms the 6.5CM the numbers simply don’t add up. Using your 6mm Remington using a 100gr pill at 3200 fps has 2274 ft-lbs of energy at the muzzle. A 6.5CM also using a 100gr pill can push it to 3300 fps (per published load data) resulting in 2418 ft-lbs of energy at the muzzle. My load for for a 6.5CM using a 143gr pill moves at 2808 fps has 2504 ft-lbs of energy at the muzzle. Being the muzzle energy for both bullet weights for the 6.5CM is above the 6mm Remington I don’t think I need to list the energy advantages of the 6.5CM over the 6mm Remington at any other distances.
I’m not sure if you simply don’t like the cartridges that Hornady has put out or what, which is fine. We don’t all have to like the same thing, that would be boring. However please don’t try to tell me how one cartridge is so inferior compared to another when they are fairly close in performance.
I also have no problem with you touting a particular minimum caliber or cartridge for certain game. But if you have a hard line stance on your current opinion and you want to share an old story from your youth that hi lights a successful hunt using what you consider today to be a substandard caliber perhaps start with a disclaimer.
But ultimately the takeaway for me in this story is guaranteed shot placement into the vitals by the hunter who has confidence in the rifle is far more important vs. a must have caliber.
If he said the 6mm Rem is superior to the 6.5 CM , I didn't hear it!
What kind of EXCUSE FOR A HUMAN would turn their head when they pull the trigger!!!!?? Some of this guy's stories ain't even equal to what a 4 year old kid would tell...
I'm really liking the 6x284 these days. Bought it for my daughter to kill elk with.
So let me make sure I understand you, 6.5CM is not an appropriate elk cartridge loaded with 120gr. pills at 2900+ FPS (or heavier) but a 6mm Remington loaded with 100gr pills at 2900 FPS is good for elk. Super confused.
@@nohillforahighstepper
Mmm, try again. A 6.5CM with a 123gr pill with a MV of 3000FPS (using published load data) has around 2100FPS & 1230ft-lbs. at 500. Now step that 6.5 pill up to a 143gr with a MV of 2808FPS, you have about 2100FPS & 1400ft-lbs at 500. Not sure what ballistics program you are using but it’s probably time to upgrade.
I never said the 6mm was good for elk. However, a 6mm Rem with a 100 gr Sierra does kill elk, shot in the arm pit. 3200 fps beats a 6.5 CM with a 143 gr at 2700 fps and a higher velocity. 120 kills better from a CM. This was in the 1960's when I was a teen. I gave him the 6mm because it doesn't kick like a .300 Wby, which he was afraid of, so it worked.
@@TheRealGunsmith
Who is this Randy and how is it he is advocating shooting Elk with the tinny little 6mm with puny cup and core bullet no less. Give us back our real Randy and ditch this imposter !!!! Otherwise this Randy had some good stories.
From Cathy: Did you listen? These stories are from when he was a teen. And he is recounting his experiences guiding hunters from his families business, Blackwater Lodge.