I have an early 2004 Superduty 6.0. I took it to a reputable diesel performance shop and talked to them at length about my use of the truck and asked them for their suggestions. They told me what needed to be done and informed me that I was not going to be blowing a ton of black smoke with the upgrades. That the “rolling coal” was super inefficient and was just blowing unburned fuel out the tailpipe. That was over 10 years ago and it still has ridiculous amounts of useable power and blows almost no black smoke. Everything you’ve said makes total sense. The video was humorous to watch and I hope they didn’t explode.
All they know is that a tall lift, big smoke, large attitude and wreckless driving are great to cover up a small personal effect. I am avoiding being graphic but we all know what I am talking about.
Gale, you are actually MORE fun to watch then those guys. I Feel like I could get smarter just standing in the same room with you. I learn a ton with every third word you say. Holy crap!
@@skully70 Nah because the engine and system was designed by seasoned pros. Hoonigan is just assembling what the pros told them to build. So it' more like a real seasoned pro judging people who claim to be seasoned pros.
not a single race car with his name on it winning podiums. not a single puller, not a single dragster.. only stuff with his name is some guy with a toy hauler and a diff cover and intercooler "kit".
It was like year 2000 I heard him say making smoke is not making power. Its 2020 and people still have not heard. He knows what he's talking about. Sad people don't listen
This could be it’s own segment each week, there’s so many diesel “tuners” on RUclips just going for big numbers and cutting corners. This is why I watch the Banks channel for real builds and real knowledge, thanks for the quality content and knowledge Gale.
Yes! A much needed public service announcement. With 98%of people that claim to be qualified that are in fact completely incompetent. This is a criminal act on so many levels. Hackers need to be locked up.
I see where y'all are going with this, but I'd much rather the channel be filled with informative videos instead of mixed with review/reaction vids. As Gale said at the end... Don't bother him with any more of these videos. Man has real work to do.
Hoonigan 1000% could’ve afforded to do this with Gale. Dan got 100x further than I would’ve gotten, I’ve watched him build many vehicles and for his first diesel I was super proud and inspired. Even the way Dan handled Gale’s feedback was wholesome and humble for how much Gale shit on the dyno shop 🤣
Exactly. Yea im a basic home mechanic. I can engine swap etc whatever. But techinal i cant. But i do know go to a diesel expert like gale when you have hoonigan or similars massive budget
To be fair the Hoonigan guys have said from the outset that they don't know what they are doing and that's why they went to who they thought were the 'experts'
I remember Dan saying at the beginning of the series "We dont know shit about diesels", well looks like the people that helped with the build weren't that much better either. It would have been an awesome crossover event to see a Banks/Hoonigan project but like others have said, this was apparently pretty much done months ago so Im not holding any hope that any of Gale's wisdom was used.
I said from the beginning “I get that Hoonigan had ties with edelbrock but Banks is the man when it comes to this stuff.” Ppe was heavily involved so there is some hope
The quarantine cut the project short, their last episode came out today. They will continue when they can. On the Tangents Live that just ended, Scotto said they talked to Gale and I think he's helping them sort it out. So there is hope! Can't wait to see what this engine can do when Gale is done with it!
I remember years and years ago my grandpa who worked on diesel engines for the Navy in WWII, and drove diesel trucks after the war, and he was complaining about "Kids and their rolling coal tunes" and he had the same things to say, "It's destroying the engine, and it's not making more power." It's cool seeing the diesel performance scene getting wise and maturing. Diesel engines are so overbuilt they can survive these bad tunes, so people used to working with gassers think they're not doing anything terribly wrong, since it's not blowing up their engines right away.
My father is a diesel mechanic 10 years in the army and then another 25 plus running his own shop doing fire trucks in nw Florida. And like you said he says the same thing constantly. Them boys are running those trucks like shit….and we all enjoy making fun of jacked up junk pavement princesses
I would love to see a future video (maybe even a series) with Banks power and Hoonigan on how to correct the mistakes and on how to do things right. I think many people could learn from a video like that, myself included. Sharing knowledge is one of the most valuable things anyone can do.
@@altruisticscoundrel To be fair to Dan and his crew though, most people who don't know diesel just assume that rich black smoke is a normal thing. You know... "Roll Coal" and all
@@bingbongmcgee To be fair, anyone with half a brain about engine building would know to do just a tad bit of homework. So my fair opinion of Dan and his crew is they're not as good as they want people to think.
@@brussell639 I would imagine that since they had the connections already, they thought they could rely on said people to know what advice to give them... They obviously believed that their people knew what they were doing, otherwise they wouldn't have went to them in the first place
@@brussell639 Dan is basically a driver who is handy with tools. Think along the lines of Tony Angelo. He has some basic idea, but he's relying on the 'experts' to do the homework for him. Poor Dan and the whole Hoonigan team has misplaced their faith in knowledge.
So having watched the entire Hoonigan build series on this. Dan has no idea about diesel power . He does not claim to know anything about it ether. He went and got some "professional advice" . He got bad advice. Seriously Mr. Banks you should reach out to Dan and Hoonigan and help them out. Dan is a good guy and a solid fabricator. He geeks out on all car stuff. Just watch any of the Build Bios videos. It's going to be sad to see this car destroyed. Dan really is a good guy.
I think there is some unspoken things going on here as well. Dan has said he has no idea what to do with what in the diesel world and the whole show is sponsored by edelbrock said just slap all this stuff of ours together and take it to these guys they'll show you the way. They had Cory machacha (however you spell it but big in the diesel game) helping with bits and pieces but what I find interesting is they spent an hour or so at Cory's shop setting it all up to make sure it would run and not leak at the dyno shop but somehow never found out about any of the boost leaks that are going.
Timothy Thompson definitely. Dan is a great dude from what I can observe and definitely doesn’t know much about diesel (which as you said he admitted). I thought something was up on this episode, when the filter was black, and there was Uber smoke everywhere, and when they upped boost and gas, and got less horsepower. Wild.
I had never heard of Banks until my friend bought a jeep with banks parts on it. Now i watch a lot of Mr. Banks stuff. Absolute madman and i love what hes able to do.
Posted Here By Banks: "We spoke to Dan and the team weeks ago before this episode was posted. They told us the series was taped months ago. The car has been done for quite a while. So, there was nothing for us to get involved with. Yes, they should have come to us first. We would have opened the shop to them as we do with racers, trade schools, Kory from PPEI, Jeremy Wagler and more. But this video is bad for the diesel community. When an "expert" says smoke means power, that's bad for our industry."
@TimothyReidUpNorth907 nope no longer is just the guy to go to but he is still JUST the guy to go to. This is proof of how bad some of the other guys are.
@TimothyReidUpNorth907 This is a symptom of a larger problem with our current "influencer" society. Hoonigan is doing this for ONE reason: MONEY. Having to actually pay for parts & consulting would kill that aspect. This is why I don't patron companies that whore their product out to shill influencers. The less people that do, the better any particular community will be.
@TimothyReidUpNorth907 Sorry buddy, you're a clown and don't know what you're talking about. Really, you think that Banks is a sell out? I know for a fact of a very large offer that was made for his company in the late 90's, he turned it down because he truly is passionate about what he does. As far as calling someone a troll, you're the troll here. You're the one watching videos and being negative.
In all honesty, this is not Dan's fault (he admitted his lack of knowledge) and really, he seems to look disappointed and possibly knew something was up.
@@JustinHardyisbesthardy although I agree with you this may also be the case of listening to "experts" and taking their word. Or taking knowledge from the internet. I build turbos for a living and a lot of customers that I talk to have huge misconceptions on diesel engines based on old wives tales and internet experts.
foreal. when he mentions the leaks and they act like “oh what leaks? where?” then proceed to run it again on the dyno. danger dan definitely wasn’t feeling the vibes
I didn't realize the first time I watched this. That nice pretty new yellow air filter turned straight black after the first pull from sucking in all the exhaust in the room! Lol
I’ve learned more about diesel engine performance from a handful of Gales videos than 14 years of working around diesel engines in the Maratime profession.
txchris_z06 it’s a setup that’s could easily be pushed to 1200 to the tires if wanted. They just have to figure some things out first but yeh I was disappointed as well
I actually lost a lot of faith in hoonigan just because of this.. I stopped watching about halfway through the dyno pull.. just too tragic to continue watching that trainwreck
@@evanjennings7635 I for one was having a lot of fun watching, particularly because it's not my engine, so having fun at them applies. And I have that video and the commenters there to thank for introducing me to Banks.
Mr Redstoner go through some of Banks’s video. Unabashed shjting on bad products and calling folks out for doing it wrong, then showing how to do it right. Some of them are very sales-pitchy but lots of good material to learn from
Hey Gale, I'm from Germany and I really want to thank you for your informative videos. I didn't know anything about diesels. And all the channels I watched have diesels blowing tons of black smoke out of the exhaust. Till now I really thought that this is the normal consequence of tuning a diesel to a high HP number. But I also wondered, why some of the diesel racetrucks never blow a single cloud. And you give all the answers to my questions. A lot of people say "if you don't know something, go and google it. all the informations are out there". But that is simply not true, as seen in the diesel community. People with knowledge, like you, should come up as the first result of every search in RUclips. There are so many people doing stuff wrong, but thinking they know their stuff and make videos about it. We need more people like you, thank you 👍
he wasn't wrong. smoke vs no smoke, you'll make more power with smoke. that doesn't mean you can't make power without smoke. you definitely can. but to get the last 5% or so, you'll have smoke
A breath of fresh air, literally, it's about time somebody spoke up about the horrible diesel tunes being popularised on YT. Black smoke isn't a good thing.
@@markrich3271 your comment contradicts itself. "Stoichiometry" is complete combustion. Therefore if any engine including diesels is at "stoich" there is no smoke.
@@micknumpty3783 Stoichiometry is a balanced reaction, it's not limited to combustion. Being at "stoich" will only produce no smoke if the reaction produces no smoke-like products, a diesel combustion reaction produces soot.
I was waiting for LORD BANKS to come down and release the 10 Commandments of Air Density. Thank you Gale for teaching what real diesel performance looks likes!
I enjoy your reactions to other Dyno runs. What I like the most is the common sense explanation you give on how engines work. It's more scientific than wow factor and that gets real respect.
This is basically what my dad (master technician for cummins and drag car builder) is like whenever we do a job for another shop and he has to explain how everything works because they've messed it up hardcore. And yet we would both shut up and listen to your wealth of knowledge because I learned enough just listening to your video, I can't imagine what being your apprentice would be like
sometimes the best mentors smack you upside the head and point out what a dumbass you're being. funny part is, they frequently become life long friends.
hey mate, I'm an Aussie, I actually have never heard of Gale Banks before, but, when he said he knew most of the Diesel guys helping Hoonigan, and they were doing the set-up wrong, I sat up and listened. Love the Camaro by the way ! :)
@@johnhufnagel I can attest to that, my industry mentor sadly passed away this year. He was a hard old sod at times and more than once put me straight 😂 , ended up becoming good friends. It was almost like loosing a father in some ways.
Didn't watch the video, but saw the photo of soot filling the dyno room and immediately thought that Mr. Banks would be so displeased with the setup. This current Banks Power video is the exact reason why Banks Power has a military contract that no one else has.....
Gale convinced me 29 years ago as a kid that u cool every fluid(air,water,fuel,oil fluids) as much as possible. My freaking daily driver shit box has oil,trans,power steering,I would put a break fluid cooler if there was such a thing
David Moore Fluids are designed to operate in a certain range overcooled fluids can be just as bad as hot fluids. Most cases not a problem but it cold climates it can be.
@@mr.randomvideos2928 Way back in the day, some rally and race cars used a re-circulating brake fluid system and cooled the fluid on the return, so it is sort of possible, if REALLY silly for a road car where caliper heat soak isn't a problem.
I work at an industrial liquid nitrogen plant, and the principles of air cooling/density work across the board. Not using an intercooler between compressors is unthinkable.
I don’t think this is dan’s fault, because he literally said “We don’t know sh_t about diesels” but, it’s the people falsely informing him bs knowledge.
I mean their thing is "we try stupid shit for fun and if it works it's cool" so the first thing to expect when they experiment with diesel is a TON OF PROBLEMS, wich is completely fine, we learn more by doing wrong things ^^
Totally agree, Dan was like f it we are building it and we don't know how. He consulted others with more knowledge on the subject than he has. It's a shame that his consultant was up to par. But it happens. Sometimes budget and bad advice can throw you off course before you know it.
@@Saabspeedmaniac2k6 I'm only going to allow that excuse for so long before these fools have to take some blame for being incompetent and flooding the internet with misinformation. And if you have to break things over and over in order to finally learn, you lack the basic skills of research and forethought. These guys are hack mechanics, masked by silliness and an "eh who cares, let's see what happens?!" attitude.
@@rustedratchetgarage6788 Generally that's the reason it's done on gas engines: area under the curve. On a diesel it's generally done because the top end flow (heads+manifolds) is so crappy that it takes a high PR (lots of boost) to move enough air through the engine to keep up with the amount of fuel that can be injected. Single compressors struggle at very high pressure ratios, so putting two of them in series splits the work and lets each stage operate more efficiently. The area under the curve is also a factor for diesels since they have such a narrow rev range. If you can't get one turbo to achieve your peak boost setting until ~2500rpm, you will have ~1000 rpm worth of powerband and be a complete dog under all normal circumstances. Which, frankly, is what most high power diesel builds are...
It's a 12v. They puke smoke almost no matter what you do. But it cleans up. But he wants to roll alittle coal just cause it's got a touch of cool factor there
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This guy has written the 10 commandments of diesel tuning himself. I'm all the way from Jamaica and from I was younger and was reading car magazines in 2000 area that was 6th grade. I've always seen banks and even read about his truck on bonnieville. I would love to have this knowledge about diesels like this guy.
Michael Foster banks has been in diesel since the 60ts, in 1953 he build a studebaker he took to el mirage. 184.52 mph and that’s a certified speed measurement.. Just glare over his personal Wikipedia page, it’s full of accolades and milestones he has developed in the car /boat industry. This man has forgotten more about diesel, than the guys at hoonigan combined will ever learn in their lifetimes 😂
I just got into building cars and motorcycles in my late 20s and I'm a million miles from being anywhere near knowledgable but seeing you rip these guys apart over this build definitely earned you my subscription. Thank you for calling this kind of bad behavior out; you don't build a car to hit a number once; you don't build anything for the claim of having built it. You build it to meet and surpass a goal, and you do it all the way. Everything I see from Hoonigan is about how none of their cars are complete, but they're taking breaks from them and I'm just perpetually amazed at how many followers they have; then on the other side of things you have guys like Rob Dahm that build stuff and he knows he'll never be done with any of it but he does it right and when he can't do it right he brings in guys TO do it right. I'll be watching your channel from now on; thanks for the great video.
It's great to see a true engineer at work here with the sensible critiques! We all know folks like these hacks that speak the "big numbers" and roll coal like they think thier shit is dialed in, hilarious. Gale is the legend when it comes to all things power adder!
I was hoping Gale would say something about that video. He nailed them on their issues. Watching the build is cool as is, but throughout, I'm sat here asking myself; "What would Gale say?" or "Going to have to ask Gale about that one".
Gale you're a pillar of the community diesel community, currently in the process of rebuilding my OM642 looking forward to watching all your videos so that tune day ill be ready. Great video!
THANK YOU ive been watching the hoonigan build and its nice, but the second they said "if its tuned right it'll belch black smoke" that was when I knew the dyno shop was a bunch of fools
Hey Gale you need to get with these guys, show them, and teach them how to do diesel. I built my 73 from the bottom up and I make 885 and 1366 and I don't blow smoke like that in my truck when I've got my foot on the floor with a 16' trailer behind me loaded with tools and engine parts to fix the tugboats out on the Mississippi.
I love how Gail explains the deficiencies of this set up. Great work Gail I’ll be supporting banks systems and products on my new New dura max . Great video
The one thing I noticed to was that yellow air filter wasn't yellow after the 2 test by the end it was completely black. It's using the intake to recycle the unused fuel coming out of the exhaust
@@shawnogman6535 if the tuner wanted to be safe, it would be grey smoke. Black smoke is almost completely unburnt fuel. The truck would go into fail safe if the egts are too high from the excess fuel. Not to mention gumming up your power terrain.
When Hoonigan started this series, I was very interested when Dan said he'd get help from knowledgeable people then very disapointed to no see Gale Banks in the lineup :P
I absolutely love it when am well know expert calls out the mistakes, problems or BS when so called professionals doing what they do . Gale this was way more interesting than the video you were watching. Keep up the exceptional work.
@@DaKRUSH If that shop was worth even knowing it's name, it never would have let that crap happen. Deadlines or not, you're asking to blow the customers motor right there in your shop.
@@danielnelson4881 you get that the people who watch Hoonigan watch it because they do scumbag stuff, right. It's the charm. It's in their name. Maybe it's not for everyone but it's definitely not for people looking for an honest review of a speed shop. No one watches Roadkill to learn how to fix the wife's car, either.
I absolutely love you and your knowledgeable, no nonsense way of sharing with us. I would trade my second kid (first ones my favorite), to work under your guidance. You're a treasure and thank you.
I don't claim any expertise in high end performance motor engineering, but this is a classic example of someone who truly knows versus someone who thinks they do. I know enough about fuel/air ratios for engines to know well what Banks is talking about, especially regarding Air and Fuel temperature. Getting picked apart by Banks with credible facts of major gaps in engine fuel/air delivery design puts a bad stain on your reputation for a trusted source in custom building engines. The worst of it all was the poorly ventilated Dyno room, that's just plain stupid/terrible.
967hp , whoo hoo great number , but wait there's more !! Hold her loaded and see if it would last a minute before scattering all over the place! I'm sure Mr. Banks has no problem and no fear of leaving one of his setups loaded hard as hell for hours on end.
Banks builds consumer products, not performance engines. Tractor pulling is huge in my area and hot farm tractors take tons of abuse. They run so much fuel that it burns as it's leaving the exhaust and meeting air, yet they run like that for tons of pulls without issue. Black smoke is good to an extent.
@@boostaddict_ Some do, some provide YT clips ;-) Seriously, though, Mr Banks does build performance engines that are designed to make power and last - the 'last' bit is important as, while tractor pulls last just a few seconds under full load, for a standing mile the engine will be under full load for around 25 seconds - that puts a shit-load more stress and heat into the engine and what was just surviving before will just be another reason for engine failure.
I love it when the master gives constructive criticism! I can understand why it's painful to watch them do everything wrong! When a diesel engine blows it blows your wallet to pieces!
People like Gale Banks are not understood by many, they get their respect by simply Winning on the track. When people see smoke and the turbo system flexing in the diesel they see "Kick Ass", when Mr. Banks sees Smoke he seas chaos.
I always wondered how Gale would react to how other shops do diesel. I can’t say I’m surprised at his reaction. When you’ve made data acquisition as important as horsepower and torque numbers, seeing this guesswork is confusing. The data is out there folks! It’s at Banks Performance!
Gail thank you for all you do in the diesel community I have meet you on several occasions towing vehicles into your shop in irwindale and meet you once and chatted with you at Glendora dodge when you brought the 200 mph pickup! I love all you do and hope everyone can learn something from watching this for years I have been saying rolling coal is just a huge waste of fuel!!!!
I'm new to cars and never seen this guy before i expected this to be more delicate like the older people i know but he was pretty rad. He talks good shit and it's perfect.
That's like saying you never heard of Kobe Bryant. Or Frank Sinatra, but for diesel. Next time you see a bumper or sticker window that says Banks Power. You will feel cool for getting it.
I'm pretty new into this whole world of diesel and gas engines. I always assume when I see black smoke on diesels trucks, that the engine is burning more fuel inefficiently and just wasting fuel. I guess I was right by banks statement
Ismael A. I’m guessing it’s because of incomplete combustion. With too much fuel and not enough air you’ll get smoke and it doesn’t all get burned; too little fuel and too much air, and you’re not gonna make enough power; but when you get just enough fuel and just enough air, you’re not going to get smoke, because you’re burning it all and getting max power out of that bit of fuel. Hence why no smoke is the best.
Fuel dumping for second before the turbo catches up is normal with large diesels. Especially the ones over 10L. These guys rolling coal are fucking up their engines. Carbon deposits and hurting the injectors. The airfilters on diesels are 4x the size compared to gas engines to allow the extra airflow. They need a lot of air. These guys are using a airfilter from my motorcycle lol. So much dumb. And a intercooler from a turbo car. Way too small.
"I'm probably not as fun as these guys" Dude you made me die XD It was great and I really hope that the guys will see this and learn... There was something that wasn't feeling right to me really...
Honnigan guys: Wow our roll coal tune is sick!
Gale Banks: That Dyno run reminds me of my dog eating it’s own shit in the backyard.
Thou shalt make a diesel engine Bear Grylls its exhaust
HAHAHAHAHAHA
I loved that part, it was a straight burn for the hoons 😬 lol
Hey, that's what the Gov makes all new diesel engines do. Eat their own shit, i.e. egr.
Did you see the air filter was yellow when they put it on and the end of the first run it was black? That’s some serious coal rollin’
I love how he starts as a nice old man then just progressively lets loose on these guys
He tries to be nice.
Tries.
It's hard to be nice sometimes.
Nothing to be nice to these knuckle heads about lol
He did it before the cool
@jet guy And to think that these clowns used to work for Banks! Jesus.
Soon as banks said “ahh shit cmon guy!” This whole video got interesting 😂
11:05 "My only question is..." ⌚💥... sumbith!😎🤣
I have an early 2004 Superduty 6.0. I took it to a reputable diesel performance shop and talked to them at length about my use of the truck and asked them for their suggestions. They told me what needed to be done and informed me that I was not going to be blowing a ton of black smoke with the upgrades. That the “rolling coal” was super inefficient and was just blowing unburned fuel out the tailpipe. That was over 10 years ago and it still has ridiculous amounts of useable power and blows almost no black smoke. Everything you’ve said makes total sense. The video was humorous to watch and I hope they didn’t explode.
I could get behind a "Banks Reacts" series.
Absolutely, his reaction was priceless....🤣
Yes, I would be behind it too.
Yuppppppp
No shit.
Old Gale Banks is the real version of some thought-up Clint Eastwood character.
His technical expertise is just badass!!
Only if he uses the word “chickenshit” at least twice.
what the internet totally needs is Gale Banks roasting youtube wankers
100% AGREED
Exactly! 💯
I'd buy a Patreon subscription for that!
It wouldn't matter, they have so much hate for Mr. Banks. He shows them how it should be done.
All the diesel kids gunna be butthurt hearing that smoke doesnt equal power lol
They know. They have switches to roll coal that changes a/f mixture and bypasses any filtration.
@mark robertson You sir win the comment of the decade award!
All it takes is having a turbo quit on u if ur running guages and u find out real fast how bad the piles of smoke r.
All they know is that a tall lift, big smoke, large attitude and wreckless driving are great to cover up a small personal effect. I am avoiding being graphic but we all know what I am talking about.
Saabspeedmaniac2k6 sounds like you’re speaking from EXPERIENCE!! lol jkjk
Gale, you are actually MORE fun to watch then those guys. I Feel like I could get smarter just standing in the same room with you. I learn a ton with every third word you say. Holy crap!
Its like a young person watching an old person using the internet, but backwards.
🤣
Perfect analogy 🤣
Also like a seasoned pro judging an amateur/enthusiast.
@@skully70 Nah because the engine and system was designed by seasoned pros. Hoonigan is just assembling what the pros told them to build. So it' more like a real seasoned pro judging people who claim to be seasoned pros.
Haha omg you win the Internet today.
Love this guy. True engineer. Calls it as he sees it based on decades of building huge, reliable power.
Yeah man, that's the main issue. "Reliable power" over looked my many tubers/tuners.
And science.
Way. to go,Gale!!!!!!!
"Huge", "Reliable". Everything he builds has nitrous on it. A monkey can make a race diesel smoke free with enough N2o
not a single race car with his name on it winning podiums. not a single puller, not a single dragster.. only stuff with his name is some guy with a toy hauler and a diff cover and intercooler "kit".
This is like having Jesus watch your church sermon And commenting
shawn sullivan 😂😂😂
rofl
"Uh, no. Breh! That's not how Christianity works." 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Dead
hahahaha XD
Banks definitely knows what he's talking about i love hearing him react to this kind of stuff cuz he's right 🤣
"Till I'm in the ground" I teared up, there's one in a million people as passionate about their work as gale
I all but stood up an saluted.
Farts
If that isn’t the truth. Good comment brother.
It was like year 2000 I heard him say making smoke is not making power. Its 2020 and people still have not heard. He knows what he's talking about. Sad people don't listen
Gale is a strait LEGEND🏆
We need more Gale reactions this was hilarious. The sheer amount of disgust was comical.
This was great, I was smiling the whole time.
This could be it’s own segment each week, there’s so many diesel “tuners” on RUclips just going for big numbers and cutting corners. This is why I watch the Banks channel for real builds and real knowledge, thanks for the quality content and knowledge Gale.
Yes! A much needed public service announcement. With 98%of people that claim to be qualified that are in fact completely incompetent. This is a criminal act on so many levels. Hackers need to be locked up.
Gotta love Gale flaming these guys!!!! 😂😂😂
I see where y'all are going with this, but I'd much rather the channel be filled with informative videos instead of mixed with review/reaction vids.
As Gale said at the end... Don't bother him with any more of these videos. Man has real work to do.
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he might have a heart attack if he reviews any of the youtube tuners
Hoonigan 1000% could’ve afforded to do this with Gale. Dan got 100x further than I would’ve gotten, I’ve watched him build many vehicles and for his first diesel I was super proud and inspired. Even the way Dan handled Gale’s feedback was wholesome and humble for how much Gale shit on the dyno shop 🤣
Exactly. Yea im a basic home mechanic. I can engine swap etc whatever. But techinal i cant. But i do know go to a diesel expert like gale when you have hoonigan or similars massive budget
When Gale said " that little chicken shit air filter" I freaking laughed out loud!
It's the kind of filter that belongs on a 300HP hot hatch not a 1000HP diesel.
@@mathieulevasseur4082 man the fact that multiple diesel "experts" in the room thought that was OK is sad
It started out yellow and got BLACK right away.
I've got a bigger filter on my 1.6L VW Class 11 car.
I did too, then i read your comment lmao
Hoonigan: Let's put these parts together.
Gale: Don't wake me up for amateur hour again.
To be fair the Hoonigan guys have said from the outset that they don't know what they are doing and that's why they went to who they thought were the 'experts'
Rofl
@@bradd5112 they also don't know how to find an expert. Too high on themselves.
@@SCOOPFREE the diesel experts they are looking for probably cost to much haha.
R - You obviously don't know Hoonigan then.
I remember Dan saying at the beginning of the series "We dont know shit about diesels", well looks like the people that helped with the build weren't that much better either. It would have been an awesome crossover event to see a Banks/Hoonigan project but like others have said, this was apparently pretty much done months ago so Im not holding any hope that any of Gale's wisdom was used.
The engine is done. But the whole car itself is no where near finished. Quarantine caught up with the them.
I said from the beginning “I get that Hoonigan had ties with edelbrock but Banks is the man when it comes to this stuff.” Ppe was heavily involved so there is some hope
Yeap they are drift guys not diesel
The quarantine cut the project short, their last episode came out today. They will continue when they can. On the Tangents Live that just ended, Scotto said they talked to Gale and I think he's helping them sort it out. So there is hope! Can't wait to see what this engine can do when Gale is done with it!
I remember years and years ago my grandpa who worked on diesel engines for the Navy in WWII, and drove diesel trucks after the war, and he was complaining about "Kids and their rolling coal tunes" and he had the same things to say, "It's destroying the engine, and it's not making more power." It's cool seeing the diesel performance scene getting wise and maturing. Diesel engines are so overbuilt they can survive these bad tunes, so people used to working with gassers think they're not doing anything terribly wrong, since it's not blowing up their engines right away.
If it's blowing black smoke, it's either broken or a waste of fuel.
My father is a diesel mechanic 10 years in the army and then another 25 plus running his own shop doing fire trucks in nw Florida. And like you said he says the same thing constantly. Them boys are running those trucks like shit….and we all enjoy making fun of jacked up junk pavement princesses
Pay attention to the color of the air filter. Starts out yellow, turns black in short order. And I THOROUGHLY loved your take on the mayhem.
I missed that, well spotted - it was getting choked before that, after...?
That looks to be a completely different filter the second time you see it. It’s longer.
I noticed that directly after the first run as well.
yeah i was watching hoonigans video thinking exactaly that
Tbh I was expecting that think to get sucked inside out on the first pull
Banks is the best, wow he's pissed hopefully he will help hoonigan to make the best power!
I hope hoonigan watches this and sees how liytle they know about diesels
He'd have to start from scratch!
@@dougsavery5442 Their new video they give a nod to Gale as a legend and guru for diesels. Kinda shitty on his part to rip them and not offer to help.
@@andyvoytko his help was making this video lol
@@mase002 fr
“That little chicken sh!t air filter!” 😂
I would love to see a future video (maybe even a series) with Banks power and Hoonigan on how to correct the mistakes and on how to do things right. I think many people could learn from a video like that, myself included. Sharing knowledge is one of the most valuable things anyone can do.
Apparently Hoonigan is going to work with him on fixing some things later.
Dan admits he doesnt know diesel, clearly he's being mislead
You'd think the YELLOW air filter turning BROWN would be a big clue...
@@altruisticscoundrel To be fair to Dan and his crew though, most people who don't know diesel just assume that rich black smoke is a normal thing. You know... "Roll Coal" and all
@@bingbongmcgee
To be fair, anyone with half a brain about engine building would know to do just a tad bit of homework. So my fair opinion of Dan and his crew is they're not as good as they want people to think.
@@brussell639 I would imagine that since they had the connections already, they thought they could rely on said people to know what advice to give them... They obviously believed that their people knew what they were doing, otherwise they wouldn't have went to them in the first place
@@brussell639 Dan is basically a driver who is handy with tools. Think along the lines of Tony Angelo. He has some basic idea, but he's relying on the 'experts' to do the homework for him. Poor Dan and the whole Hoonigan team has misplaced their faith in knowledge.
Angry Gale is great.
I kept saying while watching the actual Hoonigan video: “Gale would be pissed with this build...”
When I saw them slap that Air Filter on it I knew it was doomed.
Shit I was pissed and I've never built a diesel engine I've just done engineering school and have taken classes regarding engine design
So having watched the entire Hoonigan build series on this. Dan has no idea about diesel power . He does not claim to know anything about it ether. He went and got some "professional advice" . He got bad advice. Seriously Mr. Banks you should reach out to Dan and Hoonigan and help them out. Dan is a good guy and a solid fabricator. He geeks out on all car stuff. Just watch any of the Build Bios videos. It's going to be sad to see this car destroyed. Dan really is a good guy.
We've spoken with Dan at length. He's a great guy and wants to do the right thing.
Another Hoonigan Fail...so what's new.
@@rorydottin7143 anyone would think that hoonigan are a production company rather than a speed shop.
I think there is some unspoken things going on here as well. Dan has said he has no idea what to do with what in the diesel world and the whole show is sponsored by edelbrock said just slap all this stuff of ours together and take it to these guys they'll show you the way. They had Cory machacha (however you spell it but big in the diesel game) helping with bits and pieces but what I find interesting is they spent an hour or so at Cory's shop setting it all up to make sure it would run and not leak at the dyno shop but somehow never found out about any of the boost leaks that are going.
Timothy Thompson definitely. Dan is a great dude from what I can observe and definitely doesn’t know much about diesel (which as you said he admitted). I thought something was up on this episode, when the filter was black, and there was Uber smoke everywhere, and when they upped boost and gas, and got less horsepower. Wild.
I had never heard of Banks until my friend bought a jeep with banks parts on it. Now i watch a lot of Mr. Banks stuff. Absolute madman and i love what hes able to do.
Posted Here By Banks: "We spoke to Dan and the team weeks ago before this episode was posted. They told us the series was taped months ago. The car has been done for quite a while. So, there was nothing for us to get involved with. Yes, they should have come to us first. We would have opened the shop to them as we do with racers, trade schools, Kory from PPEI, Jeremy Wagler and more. But this video is bad for the diesel community. When an "expert" says smoke means power, that's bad for our industry."
Wagler wouldn't piss on Gale if he was on fire
@TimothyReidUpNorth907 nope no longer is just the guy to go to but he is still JUST the guy to go to. This is proof of how bad some of the other guys are.
@TimothyReidUpNorth907 This is a symptom of a larger problem with our current "influencer" society. Hoonigan is doing this for ONE reason: MONEY. Having to actually pay for parts & consulting would kill that aspect.
This is why I don't patron companies that whore their product out to shill influencers. The less people that do, the better any particular community will be.
This ain’t true. Don’t go around spreading stuff that’s not true. That car ain’t done yet.
@TimothyReidUpNorth907 Sorry buddy, you're a clown and don't know what you're talking about. Really, you think that Banks is a sell out? I know for a fact of a very large offer that was made for his company in the late 90's, he turned it down because he truly is passionate about what he does.
As far as calling someone a troll, you're the troll here. You're the one watching videos and being negative.
Gale: I taught those boys, They should know better.
maxforce how disappointed would you feel being him? These guys had the best teacher there is and throw it back in his face like this.
Those damn kids never listen to their elders
In all honesty, this is not Dan's fault (he admitted his lack of knowledge) and really, he seems to look disappointed and possibly knew something was up.
Asylum Ville agreed. I believe this is Hoonigan’s first actual diesel-anything build.
The problem here isn't Dan, it's the guys at the dyno table.
It doesn't take a diesel guy to know that you need airflow across an intercooler, or that you shouldn't be belching smoke into the dyno room.
@@JustinHardyisbesthardy although I agree with you this may also be the case of listening to "experts" and taking their word. Or taking knowledge from the internet. I build turbos for a living and a lot of customers that I talk to have huge misconceptions on diesel engines based on old wives tales and internet experts.
foreal. when he mentions the leaks and they act like “oh what leaks? where?” then proceed to run it again on the dyno. danger dan definitely wasn’t feeling the vibes
Don’t know what we would do without you Gale you are the best thing ever! Nothing beats a clean running diesel!
I didn't realize the first time I watched this. That nice pretty new yellow air filter turned straight black after the first pull from sucking in all the exhaust in the room! Lol
Right! Shit!
I was wondering if he was going to say something about that. Lol
5:45 - 6:15
I’m surprised it didn’t suck in the tin inner cap glued to the inside of that filter or completely accordion the filter element
@@nolan9101 9:53 it's jet black
It’s nice to hear Gale cut up “professional tuners” that need to go back to school.
Especially when one used to work for him.
Ya they should know better
You mean start school, right?
I hope you're joking. Guy Tripp has put more Duramax trucks sub-10 than almost anyone else on the planet.
@@next2talljones how many have run as fast as Gale's
Need a "hoonigan reacts, to gale banks reaction to hoonigan."
I second that
Yesss! Lmaoooo
Lmao yes
They will never do it way to big of egos
they did respond and said they are going to work with banks
I’ve learned more about diesel engine performance from a handful of Gales videos than 14 years of working around diesel engines in the Maratime profession.
This why we love you Gale.
Yaa...Gale good teacher. Always shared with the facts.
I was seriously unimpressed with their numbers, for the amount of complexity involved. Good to see that it didnt go unnoticed by others.
txchris_z06 it’s a setup that’s could easily be pushed to 1200 to the tires if wanted. They just have to figure some things out first but yeh I was disappointed as well
I actually lost a lot of faith in hoonigan just because of this.. I stopped watching about halfway through the dyno pull.. just too tragic to continue watching that trainwreck
@@evanjennings7635 I for one was having a lot of fun watching, particularly because it's not my engine, so having fun at them applies. And I have that video and the commenters there to thank for introducing me to Banks.
Mr Redstoner go through some of Banks’s video. Unabashed shjting on bad products and calling folks out for doing it wrong, then showing how to do it right. Some of them are very sales-pitchy but lots of good material to learn from
They choked the engine twice
Hey Gale, I'm from Germany and I really want to thank you for your informative videos. I didn't know anything about diesels. And all the channels I watched have diesels blowing tons of black smoke out of the exhaust. Till now I really thought that this is the normal consequence of tuning a diesel to a high HP number. But I also wondered, why some of the diesel racetrucks never blow a single cloud. And you give all the answers to my questions. A lot of people say "if you don't know something, go and google it. all the informations are out there". But that is simply not true, as seen in the diesel community. People with knowledge, like you, should come up as the first result of every search in RUclips. There are so many people doing stuff wrong, but thinking they know their stuff and make videos about it. We need more people like you, thank you 👍
Black smoke = unburnt fuel, incomplete combustion = inefficient.
You never disappoint, you're an automotive God!! So much knowledge in one person, you're amazing.
I was screaming at the TV when Guy Tripp said black smoke means that the engine is making the most power
😂
HahaHaha me too man funny thing I thought of gale banks from the good old spike TV days but then today up on my feed here this pops up!
he wasn't wrong. smoke vs no smoke, you'll make more power with smoke. that doesn't mean you can't make power without smoke. you definitely can. but to get the last 5% or so, you'll have smoke
@@aleks138 Not really because at the end of the day smoke is unburned fuel and unburned fuel is wasted potential.
Right ? It's the most clear sign that the engine isn't burning fuel efficently lol
A breath of fresh air, literally, it's about time somebody spoke up about the horrible diesel tunes being popularised on YT. Black smoke isn't a good thing.
@@markrich3271 your comment contradicts itself. "Stoichiometry" is complete combustion. Therefore if any engine including diesels is at "stoich" there is no smoke.
Rolling coal raisies your egts as well
@@markrich3271 exhausr flow spins turbos high egt= bad= cracked manifold or turbo
@@markrich3271 my bad didnt mean to offend you ive seen cracked stock manifolds from extremely high egts
@@micknumpty3783 Stoichiometry is a balanced reaction, it's not limited to combustion. Being at "stoich" will only produce no smoke if the reaction produces no smoke-like products, a diesel combustion reaction produces soot.
I was waiting for LORD BANKS to come down and release the 10 Commandments of Air Density. Thank you Gale for teaching what real diesel performance looks likes!
Yes!
“The 10 Commandments of Air Density”
Brilliant
1st gale verse 1.. let the air density match fuel density
I enjoy your reactions to other Dyno runs. What I like the most is the common sense explanation you give on how engines work. It's more scientific than wow factor and that gets real respect.
The best part of the video is at the end when he takes his glasses off and sighs.
Like a disappointed father, a disgusted school teacher...etc.
This is basically what my dad (master technician for cummins and drag car builder) is like whenever we do a job for another shop and he has to explain how everything works because they've messed it up hardcore.
And yet we would both shut up and listen to your wealth of knowledge because I learned enough just listening to your video, I can't imagine what being your apprentice would be like
Gale is a gentleman of the best kind...NOT afraid to cuss a BONEHEAD tho...
They messed up not coming to Banks
I was smiling from ear to ear while watching this video. I’m totally a stranger here but you seem like a pro! Thx for your time. I enjoyed then laugh.
Glad you enjoyed it!
One thing is for sure, Gale didnt make any friends today. But, he tells it like it is.
sometimes the best mentors smack you upside the head and point out what a dumbass you're being.
funny part is, they frequently become life long friends.
hey mate, I'm an Aussie, I actually have never heard of Gale Banks before, but, when he said he knew most of the Diesel guys helping Hoonigan, and they were doing the set-up wrong, I sat up and listened. Love the Camaro by the way ! :)
@@johnhufnagel I can attest to that, my industry mentor sadly passed away this year. He was a hard old sod at times and more than once put me straight 😂 , ended up becoming good friends. It was almost like loosing a father in some ways.
What friends would he have made...he surely doesn't need new ones unless they are coming to him for "Re-education".
@@andrewmurray6772 I was wondering about those guys ay, I don't know much about diesel, but even I knew they were stoogin it up
Hoonigans need to see this, I’m actually surprised they didn’t even talk to gale first he would have been the best resource.
They have seen it, it's the pinned comment on todays video
Prob all about sponsors.
They went to chuckles garage for the turbo set up and intercooler. The guy who built old smokey f1. The winner of the pikes hill climb in its class.
Didn't watch the video, but saw the photo of soot filling the dyno room and immediately thought that Mr. Banks would be so displeased with the setup. This current Banks Power video is the exact reason why Banks Power has a military contract that no one else has.....
Gale convinced me 29 years ago as a kid that u cool every fluid(air,water,fuel,oil fluids) as much as possible. My freaking daily driver shit box has oil,trans,power steering,I would put a break fluid cooler if there was such a thing
David Moore Fluids are designed to operate in a certain range overcooled fluids can be just as bad as hot fluids. Most cases not a problem but it cold climates it can be.
David Moore when you said brake fluid cooler you lost any and all credibility.
@@mr.randomvideos2928 Way back in the day, some rally and race cars used a re-circulating brake fluid system and cooled the fluid on the return, so it is sort of possible, if REALLY silly for a road car where caliper heat soak isn't a problem.
I work at an industrial liquid nitrogen plant, and the principles of air cooling/density work across the board. Not using an intercooler between compressors is unthinkable.
I don’t think this is dan’s fault, because he literally said “We don’t know sh_t about diesels” but, it’s the people falsely informing him bs knowledge.
I mean their thing is "we try stupid shit for fun and if it works it's cool" so the first thing to expect when they experiment with diesel is a TON OF PROBLEMS, wich is completely fine, we learn more by doing wrong things ^^
Totally agree, Dan was like f it we are building it and we don't know how. He consulted others with more knowledge on the subject than he has. It's a shame that his consultant was up to par. But it happens. Sometimes budget and bad advice can throw you off course before you know it.
Wasn't*
@@Saabspeedmaniac2k6 I'm only going to allow that excuse for so long before these fools have to take some blame for being incompetent and flooding the internet with misinformation. And if you have to break things over and over in order to finally learn, you lack the basic skills of research and forethought. These guys are hack mechanics, masked by silliness and an "eh who cares, let's see what happens?!" attitude.
Lol it's like a grandfather roasting his son an and grandchild.
"I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed in you.."
I"d love to see gale banks version of this engine setup with compound turbos. And see how much more power he could make than them.
He'll make over 1200 like the guy that thrashed the burnyard with his compound turbo diesel
He makes the same power with a single no need for compounds lol
@@daltonb1618 do compounds spool quicker because the small turbo comes on first?
It must be done - this week
@@rustedratchetgarage6788 Generally that's the reason it's done on gas engines: area under the curve. On a diesel it's generally done because the top end flow (heads+manifolds) is so crappy that it takes a high PR (lots of boost) to move enough air through the engine to keep up with the amount of fuel that can be injected. Single compressors struggle at very high pressure ratios, so putting two of them in series splits the work and lets each stage operate more efficiently. The area under the curve is also a factor for diesels since they have such a narrow rev range. If you can't get one turbo to achieve your peak boost setting until ~2500rpm, you will have ~1000 rpm worth of powerband and be a complete dog under all normal circumstances. Which, frankly, is what most high power diesel builds are...
he built a 1000 hp duramax with stock internals. I trust this old man
When I first saw that video I said I'd like to see Gail's opinion on that mess! Well Gail, you didn't disappoint!
And when you're showing the Hoonigan folks, also show Cleetus for the sake of his Galaxie.
12v mechanical engine is a lot different than a computer controlled new style duramax
I think Cleetus and the boys also know the galaxie is slightly ghetto.
the smoke goes once the nitrous kicks in
Numinous I think cleetus and his friends know the galaxie is kinda ratchet. Their real race cars are built right.
It's a 12v. They puke smoke almost no matter what you do. But it cleans up. But he wants to roll alittle coal just cause it's got a touch of cool factor there
and this is why I love Banks. knows what he's talking about not afraid to tell it how it is. MAKE POWER WITHOUT SMOKE.
This is the first time i heard him speak. I love his take on this. Very cool commentary. U tell it like it is .
Thanks for watching, we love hearing from new fans. If you want check out our other series:
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Oh you want to put a diesel in a Camaro and go 200.... Hold my beer.. We put a Cummins 6 in a truck in 2001 and went 222mph lol
Class is in session
He didn't even mention the time back in the '80's when he put a twin turbo v8 in a firebird and ran 247.
Eric Archer he’s legend lol
222mph in a standing mile?
Lmao !! Why didn't they do more research?
The filter goes from bright yellow, to SOLID black in 3 pulls.
Nice.
Oh wow, I thought you exaggerated.
Holy fuck you aren't kidding I didn't even notice. You can't even tell it was yellow to begin with.
@@sergeantspeed5941 It's a different filter they put a larger one on it. But it's still taking in it's own shit.
"It's eating its own waste product!" Hahahahhahahhahahha
Yes it is.
ya you can watch the hoonigan video and see that air filter actually twist and compress under the suction power gasping for air.
The filter started yellow @ 4:47, after the first pull it was black @ 6:50.
I was thinking about this video the other day and had to come back for another laugh. So worth it!
😂😂
Gale: These young whooper snappers need to do their homework!!
Just goes to show, don't be fooled by some blingy expensive parts and some technical jargon.
whipper snappers.. you Burger Brain
@@MrGTO-ze7vb I stand corrected haha
This guy has written the 10 commandments of diesel tuning himself. I'm all the way from Jamaica and from I was younger and was reading car magazines in 2000 area that was 6th grade. I've always seen banks and even read about his truck on bonnieville. I would love to have this knowledge about diesels like this guy.
Michael Foster banks has been in diesel since the 60ts, in 1953 he build a studebaker he took to el mirage. 184.52 mph and that’s a certified speed measurement..
Just glare over his personal Wikipedia page, it’s full of accolades and milestones he has developed in the car /boat industry.
This man has forgotten more about diesel, than the guys at hoonigan combined will ever learn in their lifetimes 😂
11:06
Gale: "Do you have a time delay on that hand granade?"
Me: *flashing images of the ZD30*
Ahahha loves it
Hahaha! :)
Oi !! Leave my zd alone 😂😂😂
Some NADS and it will delay longer lol (mine's not blown up. Yet.)
Another Proud zd30 owner here, oz oz oz
I just got into building cars and motorcycles in my late 20s and I'm a million miles from being anywhere near knowledgable but seeing you rip these guys apart over this build definitely earned you my subscription. Thank you for calling this kind of bad behavior out; you don't build a car to hit a number once; you don't build anything for the claim of having built it. You build it to meet and surpass a goal, and you do it all the way. Everything I see from Hoonigan is about how none of their cars are complete, but they're taking breaks from them and I'm just perpetually amazed at how many followers they have; then on the other side of things you have guys like Rob Dahm that build stuff and he knows he'll never be done with any of it but he does it right and when he can't do it right he brings in guys TO do it right.
I'll be watching your channel from now on; thanks for the great video.
It's great to see a true engineer at work here with the sensible critiques! We all know folks like these hacks that speak the "big numbers" and roll coal like they think thier shit is dialed in, hilarious. Gale is the legend when it comes to all things power adder!
This is why GALE IS THE GOAT. His products are expensive for a reason. They are refined and they work.
This is freakin fantastic. Banks science VS the alternative. It's great to see/hear Gail tell it like it is.
I was hoping Gale would say something about that video. He nailed them on their issues.
Watching the build is cool as is, but throughout, I'm sat here asking myself; "What would Gale say?" or "Going to have to ask Gale about that one".
I was thinking this may happen while I was watching Hoonigan. Would love for Gale get this Camaro for about a week.
Gale you're a pillar of the community diesel community, currently in the process of rebuilding my OM642 looking forward to watching all your videos so that tune day ill be ready. Great video!
THANK YOU
ive been watching the hoonigan build and its nice, but the second they said "if its tuned right it'll belch black smoke" that was when I knew the dyno shop was a bunch of fools
Hoonigans never showed much knowledge. So they get what they deserv.
Hey Gale you need to get with these guys, show them, and teach them how to do diesel. I built my 73 from the bottom up and I make 885 and 1366 and I don't blow smoke like that in my truck when I've got my foot on the floor with a 16' trailer behind me loaded with tools and engine parts to fix the tugboats out on the Mississippi.
Maybe over a internet video call but not in person until a cure for covid is made.
I have a 7.3L and maybe a little smokey during a grunt but when the turbo is going, it clears out good so I would agree!
Gale is the OG , this poor guys didn't think he would get wind of this
It's the internet. Nobody is safe.
I love how Gail explains the deficiencies of this set up. Great work Gail I’ll be supporting banks systems and products on my new New dura max . Great video
When I saw the title of this video I was OH SNAP THIS IS GONNA BE GOOD!!!!
John V 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻😂😂😂
I knew it was coming and I yelled ‘it’s here!!!’ Lol
Clearly Hoonigan has the wrong guys involved with this project.
Great commentary Banks!
Meh, it's a sponsored build, so they are constrained by what their sponsors want them to do and say.
@@steelbluesleepR Should have went to Banks
Gale also didnt see that they're using part of a stock LBZ downpipe with that hard 90° bend on the small turbo.
By then, Mr. Banks already found 500 things they were doing wrong.
Ironically Gale found 60hp by simply fixing bends and such exactly like you mention.
To be fair, they had to do that for clearance to the firewall. I doubt they'd keep that if they had more room.
I guess you didn't see that they had to do it to clear the firewall
aleks138 it’s a race car they can chop the firewall
The one thing I noticed to was that yellow air filter wasn't yellow after the 2 test by the end it was completely black. It's using the intake to recycle the unused fuel coming out of the exhaust
there's more to learn here watching Banks review this video than any tuning video I've seen on RUclips in the last year
You’d think that they would’ve come to the grandmaster of diesel in the first place.
You mean Guy Tripp? They did. Apparently you’ve never heard of SoCal, they build badass stuff, go look them up
Well he clearly knows s.f.a about diesel and definitely should go back to school on tuning.. dont even have proper software for crying out loud
and they are only like 45 minutes away from each other
Evan Jennings Guy forgets more on a day to day basis about Duramax engines then you will ever know lol
Lassi Kinnunen SoCal is definitely 100% a diesel shop and they build literally the best Duramax stuff on the market.
This is like my dad commenting on literally any car video I send him.
So... Did you send this one to him???
I love how Banks is always against smoke.. not really a diesel guy but always see big power diesels smoking like nuts..then learn from him it's stupid
if you see black smoke, that just the tuner being safe...
that an easy 50-100hp wasted, not to mention heat.
Watch closer. Good high horsepower diesels will smoke till the turbo catches up, then go clear. Then make power.
Yeah whenever I see serious professionals running diesels they're not very smokey.
@@shawnogman6535 if the tuner wanted to be safe, it would be grey smoke. Black smoke is almost completely unburnt fuel. The truck would go into fail safe if the egts are too high from the excess fuel. Not to mention gumming up your power terrain.
@@mrmedium7984 if you look it does turn grey once the turbos kick in (y)
When Hoonigan started this series, I was very interested when Dan said he'd get help from knowledgeable people then very disapointed to no see Gale Banks in the lineup :P
I absolutely love it when am well know expert calls out the mistakes, problems or BS when so called professionals doing what they do . Gale this was way more interesting than the video you were watching. Keep up the exceptional work.
lesson: don't dyno your engine at this place.
I mean it is a hoonogan video with production deadlines. Probably not the best place to get your research on a shop.
@@DaKRUSH If that shop was worth even knowing it's name, it never would have let that crap happen. Deadlines or not, you're asking to blow the customers motor right there in your shop.
@@danielnelson4881 you get that the people who watch Hoonigan watch it because they do scumbag stuff, right. It's the charm. It's in their name.
Maybe it's not for everyone but it's definitely not for people looking for an honest review of a speed shop. No one watches Roadkill to learn how to fix the wife's car, either.
I absolutely love you and your knowledgeable, no nonsense way of sharing with us. I would trade my second kid (first ones my favorite), to work under your guidance. You're a treasure and thank you.
I don't claim any expertise in high end performance motor engineering, but this is a classic example of someone who truly knows versus someone who thinks they do.
I know enough about fuel/air ratios for engines to know well what Banks is talking about, especially regarding Air and Fuel temperature.
Getting picked apart by Banks with credible facts of major gaps in engine fuel/air delivery design puts a bad stain on your reputation for a trusted source in custom building engines.
The worst of it all was the poorly ventilated Dyno room, that's just plain stupid/terrible.
967hp , whoo hoo great number , but wait there's more !!
Hold her loaded and see if it would last a minute before scattering all over the place!
I'm sure Mr. Banks has no problem and no fear of leaving one of his setups loaded hard as hell for hours on end.
Heck, that's part of the process he uses before signing off on his products.
Banks builds consumer products, not performance engines. Tractor pulling is huge in my area and hot farm tractors take tons of abuse. They run so much fuel that it burns as it's leaving the exhaust and meeting air, yet they run like that for tons of pulls without issue. Black smoke is good to an extent.
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Some do, some provide YT clips ;-)
Seriously, though, Mr Banks does build performance engines that are designed to make power and last - the 'last' bit is important as, while tractor pulls last just a few seconds under full load, for a standing mile the engine will be under full load for around 25 seconds - that puts a shit-load more stress and heat into the engine and what was just surviving before will just be another reason for engine failure.
I love it when the master gives constructive criticism! I can understand why it's painful to watch them do everything wrong! When a diesel engine blows it blows your wallet to pieces!
It's like watching Freiburger and Finnegan fuck up over and over and over and THEN finally get it right. Has to be annoying! LOL
Especially what there are guys around that learned from him and should have known better before they went there
Subscribed. This is honestly a little MORE fun to watch 😂😂😂
People like Gale Banks are not understood by many, they get their respect by simply Winning on the track. When people see smoke and the turbo system flexing in the diesel they see "Kick Ass", when Mr. Banks sees Smoke he seas chaos.
Anything above a light haze is just wasted fuel
When was the last Gale won at the track?
I always wondered how Gale would react to how other shops do diesel. I can’t say I’m surprised at his reaction. When you’ve made data acquisition as important as horsepower and torque numbers, seeing this guesswork is confusing. The data is out there folks! It’s at Banks Performance!
Gail thank you for all you do in the diesel community I have meet you on several occasions towing vehicles into your shop in irwindale and meet you once and chatted with you at Glendora dodge when you brought the 200 mph pickup! I love all you do and hope everyone can learn something from watching this for years I have been saying rolling coal is just a huge waste of fuel!!!!
I'm new to cars and never seen this guy before i expected this to be more delicate like the older people i know but he was pretty rad. He talks good shit and it's perfect.
That's like saying you never heard of Kobe Bryant. Or Frank Sinatra, but for diesel. Next time you see a bumper or sticker window that says Banks Power. You will feel cool for getting it.
“Eating it’s own waste”😂
I'm pretty new into this whole world of diesel and gas engines. I always assume when I see black smoke on diesels trucks, that the engine is burning more fuel inefficiently and just wasting fuel. I guess I was right by banks statement
Ismael A. I’m guessing it’s because of incomplete combustion. With too much fuel and not enough air you’ll get smoke and it doesn’t all get burned; too little fuel and too much air, and you’re not gonna make enough power; but when you get just enough fuel and just enough air, you’re not going to get smoke, because you’re burning it all and getting max power out of that bit of fuel. Hence why no smoke is the best.
My thought exactly: black smoke = too rich
Fuel dumping for second before the turbo catches up is normal with large diesels. Especially the ones over 10L. These guys rolling coal are fucking up their engines. Carbon deposits and hurting the injectors. The airfilters on diesels are 4x the size compared to gas engines to allow the extra airflow. They need a lot of air. These guys are using a airfilter from my motorcycle lol. So much dumb. And a intercooler from a turbo car. Way too small.
Exactly. Rolling Coal looks cool but leaves carbon everywhere.
@@rpatrick2 Bad for the environment and bad for your wallet (with fuel costs, engine wear and fines if you're in a country that punishes polluters).
"I'm probably not as fun as these guys"
Dude you made me die XD It was great and I really hope that the guys will see this and learn...
There was something that wasn't feeling right to me really...
This was so awesome watching the master critique this.