I have a MYOG tarp with the same dimensions, really small but fun to use. My go to is a combination of your flying diamond (20:30) in the head end, but with a traditional A-frame in the back. That way my lower body is really protected, at the same time a good bit more headroom to sit up and look around just like you showed. All my sleeping bags and bivies have the zipper on the left side, so the top of the diamond is on that side, easy to get in. These tarps are great as they force one to develop location and setup skills - just like my old car; can't just use pure power during overtakings, one needs to plan it miles in advance, know the landscape, the turns of the road, pick up speed, preferably downhill, a thing of beauty to see true experts work. :D
@whereisthemessiah I have a couple of things on my channel that might help. Here's a video showing everything getting packed with my tarp in my Pa'lante Joey: ruclips.net/video/K4MWngVV6Nc/видео.html. I also have a few pictures up on the community section from a couple months back showing an internal look at everything packed in my Pa'lante Joey pack with my tarp and bivy included. Most of the time I fold, roll, and store my tarp loosely in my pack these days. On occasion, I might still use a stuff sack as shown in the video.
@@martindonaldson5433 It has held up well, but I also haven’t been using it as much as my DCF tarp or other DCF shelters lately so there is that. When using it, I’ve found the fabric to be very stable due to the lack of bias stretch and it’s been great in the rain too. In the end it is still heavier than DCF though, has the same bulk, and has similar caveats with packing it up each morning. I haven’t had any major issues with durability when using it or any signs of delamination, but I have had to patch a couple of small pinholes (not anything too different from using DCF). I’m still happy that the fabric exists and hope it gets some updates in the future. Thanks for following along. I greatly appreciate it!
@markgreen6437 Thanks so much! I’m happy you enjoyed my video. The panel tie-outs did come with the MLD Monk tarp. They’re on both sides which has been great if I’m using a bivy with the tarp too.
oh what that's legit! I was thinking about adding a couple more tie outs to my tarp I have the 5 x 8.5ft etowah outfitters tarp and it could use another one. I wonder if the zpacks stick on ones wouldn’t pop off hmmm @@matjobin
@@markgreen7479 Nice! I don’t see why not. Especially since you don’t want as much tension on the side panels as you do with the other tie-outs. You could always add a small shock cord loop to the stick on loop too. I have had some of those stick-on loops on my 7x9 tarp for a few years and they’ve held up really well so far. I use them with my Borah Gear cuben bivy or my Yama Mountain Gear bug canopy on occasion with my pack compression straps.
@AndyShepard Thanks! BPL is awesome! I haven't personally used the Slingfin NFT so I can't give feedback on that one. The MLD tarp in my video is probably as minimal as I would be comfortable going with a tarp. It definitely has it's limitations and requires a little more thought and skill with setups when being used. Most of the time I find my Zpacks 7x9 tarp to be plenty, and the one that I pack and prefer overall. The MLD tarp is fun to have for trips when I'm trying to be as light and fast as possible. Lots of great tarp options out there for all of us.
@@IAMGWH1 It might be a tight fit and tricky with not having the outer panel tie-outs, but should be able to get things fairly close. Good luck with the setups!
I just started tarp camping recently. I mostly use an asymmetrical Holden with my alpkit rig 3.5. Or Gunyah with my rig 7. I would like to see your opinion on the Gunyah setup. Also do you have an affordable big tent recommendation that can work with various tarp configurations? Most nice ones I see are designed for specific shelters. Also awesome channel.
Hi Mat, I recently purchased the Monk Flat Tarp and have started experimenting with it after watching this video numerous times (thanks!). Wonder if you can share your guyline lengths for all the tie-outs for this tarp? My apology if you have already shared this info somewhere (somehow I can't find it). Thanks again.
@@mo-pr5uf Nice! I’m happy my video has helped and hope you enjoy the tarp! For this tarp (and my other tarps) I’ve never really found that I need more than 50’ of line so I usually carry just that. For this tarp I use two 8’ pieces for the ridgeline ends of the tarp, four 6’ pieces for the four corners, and two 5’ sections for additional tie-outs. If I need more length on one tie-out then I’ll use a surgeon’s knot or Albright knot to tie two of those lines together.
Nice video but this small tarp is way too small to me! on the first pitch, I guess your footbox would touch the tarp? the abode will be a palace compared to this tarp :D. Even though I purchased it, I hope you'll release a video about it. I sure will when I find the time to go out more.
@slicesofhikes Thank you! Yes, it is very minimal as I mentioned and isn’t going to be a tarp for everyone. More often, I’ll use my 7x9 tarp. I like the one in this video for certain pursuits though. The first pitch can be close to the footbox if the additional side panel isn’t tied out, but with it tied out I actually have plenty of room without touching the tarp. I’m excited for the Abode and can’t wait to get it out on a trip. I’m planning to release a video on it 🙂. That shelter will be for very specific hikes too. Though it won’t have the modularity of a tarp bivy combo, it will certainly be a bit lighter. It will be nice to have something more suitable for my hiking style too since I prefer to be on trail all day and spend little time at camp when I am solo.
What do you think of fast deploy ridge lines for use with a tarp? Seems like they’d provide more room inside and avoid hassle of having a stick or pole get in the way. But I never see ultralight guys with videos on ridgelines for their tarps. Am I missing something here?
@RC-qf3mp I haven't personally used them with my flat tarps, but I have used one in the past with a hammock system. I like the versatility and simplicity that a flat tarp provides and haven't ever found that I've needed a ridgeline with my UL tarps. My campsite selection and surroundings will influence this greatly though too. If I found I was only setting up an A-frame or I was setting up in areas with a little more exposure to wind then I might consider a ridgeline with my tarp, or using a shaped catenary cut tarp.
@mikecunningham2384 Nice! I’ve used the other setups you mentioned. I’m not sure about the Tyvek actually. I don’t think it’s the 1443 though. I purchased it from SMD a few years ago and it’s still going strong. I pre-washed it a couple of times before I first used it which definitely made it softer and quieter.
thanks Mat for a educational video. i've been using a 7x9 Yama Mt. Gear as my primary shelter. i generally use a standard A-frame pitch. i'm thinking of buying a MLD Cricket tarp. what's your opinion on shaped tarps vs flat tarps? ..TIA.
@surfandstreamfisher5749 Thank you! 🙏 Nice! I have some Yama stuff that I’ve been very happy with. Shaped tarps can be great! The only possible drawback would be that they don’t have much flexibility for different setups like a flat tarp does. If the limited pitch options doesn’t apply they can still offer a similar and enjoyable experience.
With such small tarps, at least one end beak is really nice, and provides that much more rain protection at little extra weight. Yes, you do lose some flexibility, but if one has ever been out in driving, sideways rain with a small tarp, it's not so fun. With that said, when the weather is nice and I'm just doing a weekend trip or the like, I often don't even bring a tarp, and just bring a bivy and cowboy camp.
For such small tarps like this, I prefer ones that are preshaped--that have at least one beak. I don't mind small tarps as long as I have a very good and water resistant bivy with me (like SOL escape bivy), but with driving rain, they can still be a bit miserable. I went through an UL to SUL phase many years back, and yeah, I no longer obsessively count grams. It's an interesting challenge, and possibly worthwhile to go through, but there is too much attachment involved ironically enough. I don't want to be focused on gear 24/7. Granted, the longest hikes I've ever done were 500 mile ones. If I ever could do the CDT or the like, I probably would have to get a bit obsessive about it again to figure out the lightest within reason. (Durability has become one of my focuses).
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I have a MYOG tarp with the same dimensions, really small but fun to use.
My go to is a combination of your flying diamond (20:30) in the head end, but with a traditional A-frame in the back. That way my lower body is really protected, at the same time a good bit more headroom to sit up and look around just like you showed.
All my sleeping bags and bivies have the zipper on the left side, so the top of the diamond is on that side, easy to get in.
These tarps are great as they force one to develop location and setup skills - just like my old car; can't just use pure power during overtakings, one needs to plan it miles in advance, know the landscape, the turns of the road, pick up speed, preferably downhill, a thing of beauty to see true experts work. :D
@thorsten888 Nice! Such a small tarp is a lot of fun to use and it definitely requires things to be more dialed. Thanks for watching! 🙏
Nice video. Great ways to set up a tarp 👍
Thanks @NorwayHikesTrails! 👍
Can you make a video on how you fold and store your tarp in your pack?
@whereisthemessiah I have a couple of things on my channel that might help. Here's a video showing everything getting packed with my tarp in my Pa'lante Joey: ruclips.net/video/K4MWngVV6Nc/видео.html. I also have a few pictures up on the community section from a couple months back showing an internal look at everything packed in my Pa'lante Joey pack with my tarp and bivy included. Most of the time I fold, roll, and store my tarp loosely in my pack these days. On occasion, I might still use a stuff sack as shown in the video.
@@matjobin thanks I'll check it out!
Great vid, brother!
@drytool Thank you! 🙂
@@matjobin I'm super inspired by your gear talks and trip reports.
@@drytool I really appreciate that! Thank you 🙏. Much more in the works! 🙂
Hi Matt! How has the Ultra TNT tarp been holding up for you? Any durability issues? Thanks for all the great videos!
@@martindonaldson5433 It has held up well, but I also haven’t been using it as much as my DCF tarp or other DCF shelters lately so there is that. When using it, I’ve found the fabric to be very stable due to the lack of bias stretch and it’s been great in the rain too. In the end it is still heavier than DCF though, has the same bulk, and has similar caveats with packing it up each morning. I haven’t had any major issues with durability when using it or any signs of delamination, but I have had to patch a couple of small pinholes (not anything too different from using DCF). I’m still happy that the fabric exists and hope it gets some updates in the future. Thanks for following along. I greatly appreciate it!
Love these types of videos. 🎉 did the panel tie outs come on that tarp?
@markgreen6437 Thanks so much! I’m happy you enjoyed my video. The panel tie-outs did come with the MLD Monk tarp. They’re on both sides which has been great if I’m using a bivy with the tarp too.
oh what that's legit! I was thinking about adding a couple more tie outs to my tarp I have the 5 x 8.5ft etowah outfitters tarp and it could use another one. I wonder if the zpacks stick on ones wouldn’t pop off hmmm @@matjobin
@@markgreen7479 Nice! I don’t see why not. Especially since you don’t want as much tension on the side panels as you do with the other tie-outs. You could always add a small shock cord loop to the stick on loop too. I have had some of those stick-on loops on my 7x9 tarp for a few years and they’ve held up really well so far. I use them with my Borah Gear cuben bivy or my Yama Mountain Gear bug canopy on occasion with my pack compression straps.
Oh man I love that idea shock cord to reduce the tension… genious. Thanks man I’ll try it!
Nice tarpin' dude. That fella at BPL almost had me sold on a Slingfin NFT, but i just feel like that's more tarp than i need.
@AndyShepard Thanks! BPL is awesome! I haven't personally used the Slingfin NFT so I can't give feedback on that one. The MLD tarp in my video is probably as minimal as I would be comfortable going with a tarp. It definitely has it's limitations and requires a little more thought and skill with setups when being used. Most of the time I find my Zpacks 7x9 tarp to be plenty, and the one that I pack and prefer overall. The MLD tarp is fun to have for trips when I'm trying to be as light and fast as possible. Lots of great tarp options out there for all of us.
@@matjobinI’m wondering if I can use these ideas on my ETOWAH 5x8 MUST with only 12 tie out tabs?
I guess I’ll put it to the test right?
@@IAMGWH1 It might be a tight fit and tricky with not having the outer panel tie-outs, but should be able to get things fairly close. Good luck with the setups!
I just started tarp camping recently. I mostly use an asymmetrical Holden with my alpkit rig 3.5. Or Gunyah with my rig 7. I would like to see your opinion on the Gunyah setup. Also do you have an affordable big tent recommendation that can work with various tarp configurations? Most nice ones I see are designed for specific shelters. Also awesome channel.
Hi Mat, I recently purchased the Monk Flat Tarp and have started experimenting with it after watching this video numerous times (thanks!). Wonder if you can share your guyline lengths for all the tie-outs for this tarp? My apology if you have already shared this info somewhere (somehow I can't find it). Thanks again.
@@mo-pr5uf Nice! I’m happy my video has helped and hope you enjoy the tarp! For this tarp (and my other tarps) I’ve never really found that I need more than 50’ of line so I usually carry just that. For this tarp I use two 8’ pieces for the ridgeline ends of the tarp, four 6’ pieces for the four corners, and two 5’ sections for additional tie-outs. If I need more length on one tie-out then I’ll use a surgeon’s knot or Albright knot to tie two of those lines together.
@@matjobin Awesome. Thank you for the info, Mat!
Nice video but this small tarp is way too small to me! on the first pitch, I guess your footbox would touch the tarp? the abode will be a palace compared to this tarp :D. Even though I purchased it, I hope you'll release a video about it. I sure will when I find the time to go out more.
@slicesofhikes Thank you! Yes, it is very minimal as I mentioned and isn’t going to be a tarp for everyone. More often, I’ll use my 7x9 tarp. I like the one in this video for certain pursuits though. The first pitch can be close to the footbox if the additional side panel isn’t tied out, but with it tied out I actually have plenty of room without touching the tarp. I’m excited for the Abode and can’t wait to get it out on a trip. I’m planning to release a video on it 🙂. That shelter will be for very specific hikes too. Though it won’t have the modularity of a tarp bivy combo, it will certainly be a bit lighter. It will be nice to have something more suitable for my hiking style too since I prefer to be on trail all day and spend little time at camp when I am solo.
What do you think of fast deploy ridge lines for use with a tarp? Seems like they’d provide more room inside and avoid hassle of having a stick or pole get in the way. But I never see ultralight guys with videos on ridgelines for their tarps. Am I missing something here?
@RC-qf3mp I haven't personally used them with my flat tarps, but I have used one in the past with a hammock system. I like the versatility and simplicity that a flat tarp provides and haven't ever found that I've needed a ridgeline with my UL tarps. My campsite selection and surroundings will influence this greatly though too. If I found I was only setting up an A-frame or I was setting up in areas with a little more exposure to wind then I might consider a ridgeline with my tarp, or using a shaped catenary cut tarp.
I typically use a Holden, asymmetrical Holden or lean to. Is that type 1443r tyvek?
@mikecunningham2384 Nice! I’ve used the other setups you mentioned. I’m not sure about the Tyvek actually. I don’t think it’s the 1443 though. I purchased it from SMD a few years ago and it’s still going strong. I pre-washed it a couple of times before I first used it which definitely made it softer and quieter.
thanks Mat for a educational video. i've been using a 7x9 Yama Mt. Gear as my primary shelter. i generally use a standard A-frame pitch. i'm thinking of buying a MLD Cricket tarp. what's your opinion on shaped tarps vs flat tarps? ..TIA.
@surfandstreamfisher5749 Thank you! 🙏 Nice! I have some Yama stuff that I’ve been very happy with. Shaped tarps can be great! The only possible drawback would be that they don’t have much flexibility for different setups like a flat tarp does. If the limited pitch options doesn’t apply they can still offer a similar and enjoyable experience.
With such small tarps, at least one end beak is really nice, and provides that much more rain protection at little extra weight. Yes, you do lose some flexibility, but if one has ever been out in driving, sideways rain with a small tarp, it's not so fun. With that said, when the weather is nice and I'm just doing a weekend trip or the like, I often don't even bring a tarp, and just bring a bivy and cowboy camp.
What size tarp are you using & the brand, material type?
Thanks!
@IAMGWH1 I mentioned the dimensions and tarp around 2:13. It's made out of .5 oz DCF.
@@matjobin
Thanks
9’x3’ it’s not much smaller than my 8’x5’ silnylon tarp so I’ll try what you’ve shown and it should help!
Like that mid pitch.
@jamesfielden7561 Me too! It’s a favorite of mine and fun to setup. Works well too.
For such small tarps like this, I prefer ones that are preshaped--that have at least one beak. I don't mind small tarps as long as I have a very good and water resistant bivy with me (like SOL escape bivy), but with driving rain, they can still be a bit miserable.
I went through an UL to SUL phase many years back, and yeah, I no longer obsessively count grams. It's an interesting challenge, and possibly worthwhile to go through, but there is too much attachment involved ironically enough. I don't want to be focused on gear 24/7. Granted, the longest hikes I've ever done were 500 mile ones. If I ever could do the CDT or the like, I probably would have to get a bit obsessive about it again to figure out the lightest within reason. (Durability has become one of my focuses).