High Elves v s Vampire Counts Warhammer Fantasy Batle Report - Old World Wars Ep 77
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- Опубликовано: 19 сен 2024
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Josh plays a Vampire Counts scream list, against Steve's High Elves.
invocation is rolled for each unit seperate ;)
Infantry gain D6 plus the caster's level in Wounds (roll for each unit); other troop types gain 1 plus the caster's level in Wounds. However Vampiric, Ethereal and Large Target regain only 1 Wound. Wounds gained are distributed as described in Resurrecting Fallen Warriors.
Awesome, it's such a joy to watch your battle reports, Steve. In the past it was not so nice watching nicely painted armies completely mess up the rules. You fixed that. Good job!
Finally! Was waiting a while for some old world battles.
PS: you wrote "Batle" report :P
Michael Chazoule AGREED! I was so excited when I saw this
Well done steve after long time we see new lists from miniwargaming staff....it will be great if you try everytime to change your lists as much you can
Always strikes first allows you to reroll failed to hit if you have an initiative equal to or higher then your opponants Page 66
At 19:06 when attempting to do a swift reform, you do the reform first then take the leadership test to see if you can move. This is important as you might reform differently if you fail the test. It is described in the summary section of the BRB.
Nice high elf list nice to see not the normal list. The vampire list looked rather tame to me but both Armies looked nice
Good game. Fluffy or themed lists are really enjoyable to watch.
Steve! Important ruling for you! Page 143 of the rule book, "When Age of Sigmar is released, DO NOT PLAY IT."
Love how that high elf player didn't take any fear tests...
He actually did make fear tests, a lot of them. Did you even watch the video?
Lol he missed them quite a few times in crucial parts of the game
Terrorgheists can only death shriek into combat when the terrorghiest itself is in combat with the target unit
AzureRathsFury Not accurate, this is FAQ'd. First entry - www.blacklibrary.com/Downloads/Product/PDF/Warhammer/Vampire-Counts.pdf.
Ah, well, as I have 2 terrorgheists, that's pretty good for me, lol, thanks :)
a pretty common error here : when you cast invocation of nehek you roll 1 dice for each unit that is affected by it, what i ve seen a lot of players do (and you also did) is just roll 1 dice and aply that result to every unit affected by it which is incorrect, also the invocation has three levels of difficulty and you allways have to say which one you are attempting to cast before doing so, this is very crucial since the basic level of the invocation only affects units in 6 um
that necromancer list looks fun.
6:25 Depend from rules ETC rule: Large Targets can't claim cover for obstacles, ruins and interfering units, unless interfering unit is also a Large Target. Large Targets which shoot don't suffer any penalties for interfering units, unless interfering unit is also a Large Target.
7:50 overrun was stupid idea.
11:55 Should have charged 2 dragon princes to terrorgheist. 5 attacks hit on 3 with rerolls and wound on 5 have good chances to do enough damage plus bonus from charge and banner. And terrorheis hit 4 attacks on 4, wound on 2. DP need at least 4+ 6++ save.
14:10 fear test
14:24 need LD test if not want to overrun
25:10 Move fleeing units p.17 p.25 Only fleeing unit move through other units. Otherwise they folow basic moving rules such as 1" rule etc p.70 Flyers always move on the ground when attempting to flee or pursue
Flyers always move on the ground.
35:00 skeletons failed LD test and they not steadfast (4 ranks fr skeletons and 4 for spearmen, just as on picture on p.54 BRB) therefore should not be able to reform
35:36, 39:54 horses WS3 hit skeletons WS2 on 3 so both hit
39:10 archers still steadfast
C0unt Overrun was better than having them get stuck in with zombie/skellies.
C0unt Overrun was better than having them get stuck in with zombie/skellies.
Yes! a good vampire counts player! although I prefer armies centered around grave guard/ crypt horrors rather than scream lists just for flavor but this was still enjoyable.
Will Ash ever be doing these again? No offense Steve, I think you do a decent job, Ash just used to add a bit more flavor and commentary to his battle reports.
I got some laughs out of the host with the elves going "oH!" after seeing the undead guy roll.
Great batreps as allways Steve, thanks and keep up the good work! =)
Also your horses were hitting on 3's in the Silver Helm combat, as Skellies have WS2 and elven steeds have WS3.
Quick note -@35:12 you need to test on the leadership after combat res to reform. In that case the skeletons would have been LD3 since they lost by 7 and were not Steadfast. BRB pg 55.
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The vampire counts save rolls. Geebuz
Some of the last Warhammer Fantasy battles before Age of Sigmar completely takes the game to pieces. What a shame.... Keep on playing 8th Steve!
Looks cool! Parry saves for the skeletons missing @ 35:00
Damn, your armies always look great
I hope to see someone that will play beastmen, it is not yet a battle report with them.
25:00 I think you couldn't declare a charge on archers in the first place because of other units blocking your line of charge - and it was impossible to move around them.
he can fly so it works
I have a question. How come the terrorgheist can scream into combat? It just seems odd to me seeing as otherwise you can't interfere with melee combat. No shooting, no spell casting. Just feels weird to me.
25:00 if your TG would have rolled (6) e.g. enough to reach an enemy unit, it must've declared charge against it (pg. 58 "Pursuit into a new enemy")
Actually, it was enough to charge the silver helms, because you rolled a total of 9 (5+4+1).
i dont think i ever see a spearman high elf list win lol
Its because he's using the wrong Lore
Love old world wars :)
miniwargaming what willhappen with old world wars after the 11.july?
Where do you get those corner angles to help find charge arcs
Good stuff but knowing your going to face two terrors keep bolt throwers in my list.
Needing suggestions from people that play warhammer. Im looking into collection and wanting suggestions on either Vampire counts or high elves. I cannot decide which to make as my first army.
Rules are getting a lot better, it is nice to see. Still, other intervening models count as heavy cover, and it seems like you only had them count as soft cover (Page 41 of the BRB). You often made this mistake in this game..
Nice Game, Vampires beating my most hated foes :D
101kuji Upset that Mannfred blew up the world?
Ouch... poor elves
Steve you had such bad dice in this game, I sympathise. But I reckon you made quite a few tactical errors. I would be wary of blaming this on an unoptimised list! Also any unit that has a rank (including the front rank) of five models or more will be steadfast against a monster, so those archers would have been steadfast against the Terrorgheist.
Banner of the world dragon would have rendered the terrorgheists useless :(
Are you playing the silly end times rules where you can take whatever you want basically? Otherwise he has way too many lord points.
Vamp lord with red fury and quickblood is 300 with no other gear and a lvl 4 necro 200. On top of that he has a ton of magic items on the vamp lord and a scroll.
Also the most important error. Has been said but can't be missed. Terrorgheist can only scream into a combat if he is part of it.
You did more than what could be expected from an high elf army with almost only core against a cheesed out VC army :) Will we ever get to see you go hardtry mode?
lddn It's not end times for 50% Lords/Heroes, that got FAQ'd into the main rulebook.
Also, the Terrorgheist can scream into any combat, however if he is part of a combat he can only scream into the one he is part of. This is the very first FAQ entry - www.blacklibrary.com/Downloads/Product/PDF/Warhammer/Vampire-Counts.pdf.
My bad on the terrorgheist. My group still views it as end times ridiculousness since that's when it got changed and it's just a stunt to make people able to play with the new models. Has nothing to do with balance imo.
No argument there, but it changed things up a bit which was nice :P
rerolling for "always strikes first"? is there any rule i missed?
Tobias B ok, found it in the rulebook, seems i really missed this rule ...
Tobias B if you have always strikes first and would have normally gone before them anyway because of initiative then you get to reroll all missed attacks once.
Thanks :-)
Are terrogeihsts able to 'shoot' into cc?
+Felix Corba Yeah, screaming ignores cc. It happens in the shooting phase, but it's not a shooting attack.
Nate Biese thanks :)
Nice batrep, but zoom out a bit yo :p
He really wasted his archers. They shouldn't have been wasting turns shooting at something they had next to no chance of killing.
They actually had a really good chance of killing at least one, or almost as importantly, reducing its wounds and hence the scream damage. Steve just got insanely unlucky dice rolls. Given that those screams killed pretty much all of his cavalry it was a sensible decision, frustrated by bad dice.
+epokzero Diden't he forgot to add +1 to hit because of terrorgeists are large targets?
not bad
03:01
You mispronounce macabre. The R is silent. Ma'cobb pronunciation
terrorgiest..are just a broken unit.....the fact u do damage with a LD and able to shoot into close combat is just silly. I hate playing against these things.
WHFB is still the best. ;-)
So many mistakes... it's hard to keep up :(
please stop playing meeting engagement. its completely unfair to vampire counts. Havent seen who wins yet but its unfair regardless.
did i just really watch this? lol
hey I'm high elves I don't need bolt throwers just a bunch of shit archers >.> STOP USING THEM THEY NEVER DO ANYTHINGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Can't believe people actually pay to watch these bullshit battles
Steve is such a rubbish High Elves player. Never seen him winning with anything less than the Alarielle cheese fest.