@@newcityenzo "just master a few" mastering any can be quite the endeavor, those who master multiple martial arts are literally the legends and future legends of the sport [mma.] Dedicated their lives to it. Your comment makes it sound simple, but really it's the incredible dedication and commitment that we admire in pro fighters from any discipline.
@@jinspence697 see bro once you know the basic you can adapt to others more quickly... if u are a black belt in bjj learning judo won't take as long as it would have taken if u were a complete beginner and then wrestling.. so boxing,muay thai,bjj,judo and wrestling seems good
@@legendrysuperman Yah but those two are alike. If you could learn BJJ and judo it would make sense because they are similar. But Muay Thai, wrestling and BJJ are all different so it would be difficult to learn all of them and still be good at all 3
1) Boxing: best foot work of all sports and fastest and strongest punches (works the best against multiple opponents and most people on the street dont know how to grapple or kick, also the chances of fighting someone who actually knows how to use any of those are pretty low) also fights usually start face to face you can get a knock out) also know how to use your reach and maintain distance, they work the best with everyday clothes such as jeans as the legs are used for footwork and not kicking, also (in my opinion) works the best agaisnt multiple opponents because of footwork and mobility, also more speed and power on their punches than other combatants from different arts. Weaknesses: If you can get through the jab,uppercut, and cross and somehow close distance and neutralize his punches and take him to the ground you probably got this fight, leg kicks also work very effective if you dont let them come in and make you use your hands also the way their feet are placed could be destroyed by leg kicks causing them not be able to put weight on their legs losing mobility and power on their punches, their punches are more powerful than their hand could handle so if they hit a too hard spot like the forhead they could break their knuckles 2)Muay Thai: Best leg kicks, knees, and elbows but most importantly the clinch, muay thai fighters can use their whole body as a weapon. Weaknesses: Feet too close together, although good for blocking kicks they are open for takedowns and would have a harder time sprawling (wrestling defensive takedown move) than a boxer, also less mobility, foot work and punches than a boxer (however their hands are still better than your average Joe),the fact that you might have too tight pants on which would be harder for you to kick. 3)Wrestling/BJJ: Best ground game, they are good at take downs and submissions. Weaknesses: Using jeans could interfere with your grappling ability, you could get hurt from grappling on hard floor, the chances of there being more than 1 opponent are too high, you could get picked up and slammed on the top of your head ( if you have them on a submission with their face facing towards you and their legs are free). My thoughts: Practice any sport you like because if you choose a sport that you dont like you could be really bad at it and could be unmotivated causing you to get beat up in a streetfight, when it comes to these 4 sports there is no best or worst however each have their on weaknesses and strengths, try to be open minded and lets say if you love boxing try to learn the MT clinch, leg kicks and elbows and some grappling techniques (although you wont be nearly as good as someone who trains you can still be better than the average Joe). Have a good day and plz leave your opinion I want to hear it :) Edit: Lol I had completely forgotten about this comment and never thought I would get this amount of feedback. Now that I've re-read it I would like to point out a couple things: 1) Please excuse my last yt name. I made this account when I was like 12-13😅 2) My opinion was mostly based on the more technical and theoretical side of things. Of course most of these martial arts' particular styles can be changed from situation to situation to wtv you feel like fits the best. But at the same time the basics and fundamentals are always there. 3) Remember this is a street fight scenario we're talking about. Which I admit I failed to actually analyze to its full extent. Living in a somewhat rougher neighborhood and seen some things. What a person would do in a street fight is not that predictable. When going into a street fight remember just that, this is the streets. Keep an open mind and always prioritize your safety over winning the fight. Safe up yall✊
Totally agree. Further to above, I think you should have a solution for every range the street fight is in. For me: Outside range: Defensive footwork/intimidation/stance changes/asses situation, front kick, teep. Inside kicking range: Head movement/boxing footwork, counter punches, roundhouses to body/legs (head kicks only if the situation is very dire and you need to drop him right away or you have a lot of space). Punching range: Straight punches, Thai clinch w/knees & elbows, throws, takedowns. On the floor: BJJ/get the fuck up.... If it's 1v1 bjj all the way, every time. If you're in a crowd; either get up or go for a last ditch back-take, sink in a RNC and yell "i'll break his neck!" as loud as you can (so his friends back off.)
I love this comment and i respect your opinion but there's different muay thai styles. I'm a muay thai fighter i have a little wider fight stand but when in clinch my legs are next to each other so i can move them in any direction without losing balance. and actually muay thai is better in a street fight and me and alot of my friends tried it, when you're close a punch is so fuckin good but dude nothing hurts more than an elbow on close range i swear I've seen guys with their face slashed like if someone attacked them with a knife because of elbows. Check my Instagram account and you'll see what I'm talking about it's yahya_namrouqa. Ps I'm not asking you to follow me or like my content
Haha the second. Bauchnabel mit Bart means belly button with beard in german xD And yes I know there is no beard I just didn't wanted to see a "beard" every time I go on youtube^^
In mma, imo Jiu jitsu is a must, you have to at least know the basics otherwise you're going to get raped on the ground. So, an overall skilled fighter would have to be decent in boxing, kickboxing (or muay thay), and Jiu jitsu. Boxing may not sound important if you already know kickboxing, but the footwork you get from boxing is unmatched, plus the fist speed and combos you learn are much more superior then any other martial art.
Lazu Gheorghe valid points EXCEPT for your assertion of boxing being superior to all other martial arts. Without getting into being really technical right away, I'll first submit this: why would you limit yourself to only using half of your available weapons/techniques? It's all too easy to make an uninformed argument like kicking techniques not working in actual fighting (history disagrees), and it's plain to see why this line of logic developed, as most practitioners tend to throw high kicks that are easy to see coming, but to then broadly assume that kicking techniques in general don't work based on a single form of application is simply foolhardy. Any martial art(ist) of worthy repute will make great use of low-level kicking techniques that attack the legs as well. Just look at Muay Thai as a simple example, with their ONE low kicking technique that they use heavily, but vary application, and excel in the finer nuances of the technique, is one of the things that make Muay Thai such a fearsome and respected style. To reiterate, they only really use a single low kick technique, but refine it to the point of being devastating. So what's to stop styles of Kung Fu, karate and tae kwon do from using their kicking techniques to attack legs, and achieving similar results? More poignantly perhaps in light of your assertion of boxing being superior to other martial arts, is this simple question: what defense does boxing offer against such attacks? I'll allow that they can be avoided in some circumstances through the use of footwork, which you so lovingly espouse, though without a more robust defense against such tactics, you're pretty much setting yourself up for failure, as, though good it may be, the footwork in boxing is not without flaw. Additionally, your point of boxing's footwork being unrivaled, also bears some scrutiny. What measure is this claim made by? If you're saying this based solely on personal belief, then I would suggest you more deeply study the advanced footwork of traditional martial arts, much of which can actually be learned from Bruce Lee's writings. It's true he drew heavy inspiration from boxing, but he also drew equally heavily from traditional martial arts. While Bruce Lee decries traditional martial arts for their rigidity, you'll find that with deep study from properly qualified instructors, that many of the same principals of footwork also exist in traditional styles. If you don't see that in a given style or school, than they aren't properly adhering to their own tradition, which is sadly the. case in the majority of marital schools these days. In any case, don't be so dismissive of combative systems that have been in use for over a lifetime, and certainly not without doing proper research.
This man is also world class in his art and was raised in a village in "crazy mountains". He got that technique, work strength, and overall crazy Russian durability
I'm from Argentina. Yeah, we do a lot of techniques, even when the class is over my trainer teach us how to defend against a takedown and useful techniques. I'm better at boxing, footwork and kicks though. Don't know anything about grappling... yet!
The most important thing in a fight is your MIND. Before you brush my comment off as an unfounded and vaguely spiritual non-statement, hear me out please: Look at a guy like Jon Jones; he obviously has good techniques and natural body mechanics that allow him to do many of the incredible things that he does, but, most importantly he has a primitive, savage, animal-like focus when he fights. A technique can always be perfected and the point of doing so is to have, for example, a straight punch that is as fast and as powerful as possible while expending the least energy possible, this is all well and good and absolutely essential for a fighter.. a savage with no technique will never beat a trained fighter. Anyway, technique is just an asset, like speed and power, it doesn't allow you to find a way to win, to read your opponent and absorb his intentions, to adapt to his new game-plan or to flow between other techniques to make you less predictable. Look at how cats fight; it's pure instinct, when on its' back, feet on the hips, always controlling posture, always clawing to do as much damage as possible and ALWAYS moving perfectly from the hips. Fighting is a creative process, an art, not a skill! Most people won't read this but I really wanted to sum up what I've learned during a lifetime of trying that finally led me to an understanding. This sounds stupid, but try to play a medieval fighting game such as Mount & Blade and you'll soon realise that even in an environment as simple as that one, winning is not about technique, it's about focus. Great video, Shane, as always!!! Sincere Regards
You made some very insightful points. like you have realized those things as well but it didn't take me that long tbh. Not that its a race or anything but like you I can look past the physical side of things and get down to the root of it all. Buried in the mind. I love what you said man. Very profound
ayeGARY I didn't just realize it after a lifetime and decide to make a comment, badly formulated.. I meant that I've confirmed that belief over and over again having been training in martial arts and other sports for a very long time. Thanks for your reply brother!
Gray Kin Dutch style Muay thai is a beast. Normal traditional Muay thai is just Ok. They punch, but they just send out little jabs to measure distance and such. That's pretty much the only boxing technique they know, as well a simple Jab+cross. I never see them use more combo's involving more than 5 attacks. Most people who use Muay thai in MMA put in more footwork, more of a boxing stance for hands and use head work. THAT IS NOT THOUGHT IN TRADITIONAL MUAY THAI! A real Street fight is going to be fucking fast! No putting high guard, little movement stances with no headwords and only throwing roundhouse kicks to the body. Although, Muay thai is good with upper body wrestling, elbows and knees.
I wish the ufc was like how it originally started It would be cook to see one person strictly work on one martial vs another like golden glove boxrr vs a black belt
Good rant. :) MMA evolved and seemingly plateaued at MT/Boxing + Wrestling + BJJ, but I'm glad athletes are experimenting with introducing elements of other styles and implementing stuff that works for them. I remember back in the early days of MMA, that head kicks were denounced as ineffective. It's exciting to witness the evolution.
They're fundamental. MT/Boxing/Wrestling/BJJ are the 4 most effective combat styles. Adding other elements from other styles are great. But these 4 will forever be the Pillar of MMA. Btw, any source for that "head kicks were denounced as ineffective in MMA early days" ???
Basing this purely on the UFC, most fighters with wrestling backgrounds and good stand up are at the top of their divisions. I personally like boxing + wrestling with defensive bjj
I run a boxing/jiu jitsu split but honestly I feel like the best split would be Muay Thai with wrestling and bjj, Muay Thai = overpowered standup and if you are even just somewhat competent in bjj and wrestling you’ll have mean ground game.
That combination would be trash, replace boxing with Muay Thai and replace wrestling with judo, and don’t just learn BJJ for defense use it to its full capacity
You make a solid point, and I agree, there is no such thing as a perfect martial art ratio because people are imperfect, and their individual aptitudes catalyze each art differently. The closest we can come to our own best is through experimentation, and eventually getting a feel for what works best in regards to the individual. Despite saying that, if there was one art that would reign as the best to learn for a practical 1 on 1 situation, it would probably be jujutsu.
Going off that part where you mentioned we're in a transition stage, I agree. I think in the early days, fighters came in with their specialty, in which MMA evolved into having mainly Muay Thai + Wrestling + BJJ. From 2012 and on, I noticed fighters were starting to cherry pick aspects of other martial arts outside of the three, like the front kicks and side kicks you mentions (from Taekwondo). What I would really like to see is more of Kung Fu or Capoeira incorporated into MMA. People like Dana White make fun of those styles, saying they would never work and it's all just for a fancy show, but I think there are some techniques that could be effective.
What I tend to tell people who want to learn what MMA is. I usually say this. The base martial arts everyone has to learn is Jiu-Jitsu, Wrestling, Boxing. Then on top of that you have other martial arts that add more depth to your skills. Such as kick boxing, muay thai, greko roman and so on. And certain guys are so good at one of the bases that they use that as their main tool to win fights. Like Damian Maia, a world class BJJ guy. He's going to want to take it to the ground as he 99.9% of the time has the advantage.
I like learning more than one martial art because I can correlate their many aspects and incorporate what I learn into each of them, MMA in a nutshell.
Zabit Magomedsharipov and Valentina Shevchenko are examples of great versatile fighters who strongly incorporate traditional martial arts (Wushu and Taekwondo respectively) into their fighting styles. Both incredible well-rounded fighters!
The predominant branch. Go Wrestling-BJJ Boxing- Muay Thai. First, get the fundamentals of fighting. Then for styles, Wrestling is the most important. Then boxing. Then you can move to the more nuanced cousins enabled by the skills of wrestling and boxing, which will set the threshold between street effective and an amateur MMA amateur. These would be BJJ and Muay Thai, respectively. In the ultimate guide, I’d go; -Learn to get scrappy (basic strikes, takedowns, awareness) -Greco-Roman wrestling -Boxing -BJJ -Muay Thai You will then have a solid foundation that can keep you afloat in a fight if you ever attempt some crazy kung fu shit that fails or backfires. Don’t attempt to master everything like you master the basics and these core four, otherwise your fight awareness and strategy becomes diluted. As a man whom you might just know once said, “I don’t fear the fighter who has learned 1000 kicks, but the fighter who has practiced a kick 10000 times.”
Great video! I first encountered the feint-roundhouse to front kick in kung fu class. Really tricky move! Chinese martial arts use a lot of those and so do Karate and Silat. Well, we are all limited to two arms and two legs, so our fighting styles are bound to be quite similar, right? 😊
The front kick, side kick, jumping front kick are also in Karate along with Taekwondo. You can see more and more of Karate & Taekwondo in MMA in stances. People like Sage Northcut uses that stance where he is angled & not squared off on the hips like in Muay Thai.
I don't believe their is one perfect ratio for MMA, I do however believe that their is a martial art for every single body type, and that certain techniques work better for certain people, I for one have a 36-7 inch leg reach at 5'8 so I'm not going to be throwing and Andy Hug axe kicks. it does mean however I have a mean vertical side kick to the face though from a range most wouldn't expect it from.
+fightTIPS What about catch wrestling? I've heard people say it's great for mma. People like josh Barnett and kazushi sakaraba have done really well in mma using catch wrestling.
+Marcus Hagey Yes exactly bro, catch wrestler prefer the top position and are crazy skilled with submissions. I once read they really have an infinite amount of submissions!
I’ve never practiced martial arts, but I’ve been looking into it a lot. I’ve been thinking of taking Brazilian Jiu Jitsu for self defense and also I’ve been hearing a lot it is the best to learn for grappling. Then later learning Muay Thai because for one I’ve always wanted to learn it since I first saw Ong Bak, and two it looks devastating and I know it incorporates a lot of striking and clenching.
Hey Shane, love your vids; but I was wondering if you could do another boxing video that can show us how to use the "Dempsey Roll" by Jack Dempsey & how it can be used properly in the right moment.
@@ItsAstie Although i agree, if you take 1 practitioner of every martial art the jiu jitsu guy almost always wins. But yeah, the best thing is to know MMA. Become a boxing beast and have a black belt in jiu jitsu. Then you are almost untouchable. ALMOST. You will always have a chance of losing
@@Jake-cy7to boxing def helps with dodges and footwork as well, but in the long term muay thai is better. it teaches to strike with punches, kicks, elbows and knees, besides the good clinching techniques it may offer. if a person practices muay thai right, they wont be too square and will have the proper technique to attack, defend and counter. I would say muay thai + BJJ is a great combo, although other fighting styles can be mixed in to help even more, such as a bit of wrestling, boxing, etc.
@@volted_blitz8230 muay thai is amazing, i trained it and i loved it. However is a bit lacking in the defensive deppartment footwork and headmovement wise. But using kicks, knees and elbows and also clinch positions is amazing in a fight and something everyone should know. Definately
@@Hatingonyall2023 I agreed punch is the most effective weapone in street fight why? because without the glove the punch can go very fast and very hard to block also the elbow and knee
@@Candyyycoatedliesno cause with kicks you have the distance and the time to hit so. Also I'm black belt taekwondo and 1 month ago I fucked up 2 kickboxers with 2 kicks on their heads while they were coming to hit me so that's why the distance is very important
In MMA I learned boxing, bjj and wrestling, but also techniques that are specific to MMA. For examples when practicing bjj we learned how to defend from punches and ground & pound. So I think MMA is not simply a addition of different sports and martial arts but a sport of its own because the mix of differents sports can't be done without adaptations and news techniques.
ive been studying wing chun, aikido, mma, muay thai, boxing, dk yoo, systema, bjj, judo, wrestling, a little silat, and a few others. they all have something useful to offer, what makes it effective in the ring or on the street is your own ability to flow, your own timing and your own creativeness. train the skill not the technique and itll be just like sending signals to your body to strike or grapple or sweep or break or lock. its all useful in its own time and place.
I've said it many times: It's crucial for you to find your own fighting style amidst the traditional. I've learned to create something out of training for years in Muay Thai, Judo and TKD. For my strikes, I use a mix of good old fashioned pugilism and powerful kicks. For close encounters, I hit with elbows and knees. For grappling, I specialize in submission holds, throws and sweeps. My weakness is groundwork - namely because I kind of think BJJ is a bit overrated. If I ever get the chance to, I'd like to learn Kajukenbo - and eventually teach it.
I’m 14 and I currently practice Muay Thai , wrestling and BJJ and from what I’ve seen in the UFC that’s pretty much all that is needed and people tell me that , but it’s not about the martial art is about the fighter
And bruce wayne . Mastered boxing, savate français, judo, aikido, all the forma of karate, muay thai, taekwando, hapkido, krav maga, jui jitsu, wrestling, all fight displines of ninjutsu, wing chun, jeet kun do, kali and silat and even capoeira.
To be honest. A fun way of seeing how each art has value (Even arts you don't really see in the mma setting), I recommend a manga book called "all rounder meguru". That book is insanely technical in the martial arts topic with Muay Thai, Wrestling, Boxing, Karate, etc. It just gives each art a spotlight of their own while maintaining a great story. Overall, I agree with Shane in this vid.
I would add BJJ, with judo you have unstoppable takedowns but you don't have as good of a ground game as bjj. And also boxing. Muay Thai is awesome but it lacks a bit of footwork, mixing it with boxing really makes you waaay better.
Salion Yoda dont you learn enough takedowns in BJJ? if you arent learning takedowns in bjj or just a few her and there then its a good idea to have a weekly class of judo maybe
I do like some blocking moves from Karate and Kung Fu, but my main focus is Muay Thai, Boxing and Jiu-Jitsu, I would love to practice Karate or Aikido during summer since I train for free at school. And I think that moves like front kicks, side kicks and some throwing techniques are way too common to be classified as part of an specific martial art
I liked ur vid very much, keep up the good work =).. allow me pls to say some stuff abou wing chun.. No serious Wing Chun Fighter would ever use the posture u demontrated as an example.. already by looking at it one can see that its dmn weak for attacks around the sides, be it high kicks spinning back fists or just some left or right hocks.. In wingchun one is standing with the shoulders down and the chest pushed forward while the chin is pulled as far back as possible.. The hand position looks similar to a wing chun style position but for me it looks like u are intendig to block this way.. In Wing chun how ever this is not a blocking poition. The idea is to put ur hands in a position from witch u intercept & deflect incoming strikes, while starting ur counter attack. where for u have to put ur shoulders down in a relaxed mode to give ur arms max mobility and swiftness... Interesting is that u talk about attacks throu the center, since wing chun is all about those. Turning slightly to avoid central attacks is a central theme of wing chun exercise as well. Talking about leg positioning: a problem many mma fighters who use a boxing stance have is they are exposing their front leg to low kicks and stop kicks to the lower leg or knee. In wing chun one favours having all the wight on the leg wich is more far away from the oponent. This allows to relocate ur frontleg swiftly in case it is attacked by kicks. There for i think good wing chun would be an enrichment for every mma fighter. But could an all wing chun fighter go in the octagon and succede? Most likely not. For in wing chun there is neither taked down defence nor groundfighting.. As well a wing chun fighter would face big problems with the rule set. Wing Chun is not a sport but a fighting system... this means all effective attacks can be used. may it be small scale leverage, or attacking of vital points like eyes, groin, etc. As well as kicking an oponent on the ground or delivering blows to the neck or back of the head. All these attacks are forbiden for good reason. Nobody wants the athletes to suffer severe injury. But this should demonstrate why Wing chun does not fit into the octagon.. while its used in military and police close combat training. I think nobody will read this long comment in case you did.. thank u very much.. As i stated earlier great video =)
Yeah, it's still in it's infancy in international MMA, but it's there. Cung Le was the biggest fighter, but there are others, but sadly most of the others are undercard fighters.
I always wonder, been practicing Sanda for more than 2 years now, the striking is the same but the way you apply the force is different than any other martial arts out there.
Owen Wu Yeah I think that we'll be seeing it more and more in MMA. Especially since MMA is on the rise here in China and in places like Malaysia and Singapore. Keep it up on your end too!
In the beginning of MMA, Gracie Jiu-Jitsu and BJJ who had great groundwork but atrocious striking and takedowns dominated. Then came the Muay Thai and Kickboxers who crossed trained In GJJ/BJJ as well as wrestling like The Chute boxe guys and Chuck Lidell. They could keep the fight standing by neutralizing GJJ/BJJ's groundwork and finish their opponents standing. Then came the wrestlers who learned that if you can just take them down and smuther them you can win. George St. Pierre and Matt Hughes are two examples. Then BJJ started improving their game by learning striking and takedowns and they started doing better. Then dynamic fighters who use a lot of improvising and movement like Dominick Cruz, Demetrious Johnson and TJ Dillashaw started showing a whole new game .Now big punchers with a good wrestling and good anti Jiu jitsu game like Tyrone Woodley and Stipe Miocic are the top of the food chain. And then there are guys like Demian Maia who has unreal MMA Jiu jitsu is tying everybody up in knots. You gotta love MMA and the UFC. Always evolving.
I agree with this man entirely. I'm primarily a Shootfighter with a Taekwondo background but I've done some Judo and BJJ, some catch-wrestling, Savate and JKD, boxing and Muay Thai, I've also learned some wrestling from others and did some Shotokan Karate. I respect ALL styles. I think it's more about how you train than the style. If you like in the HISTORY of most martial arts, many of them came from a combat background and had a degree of striking, takedowns and ground work (though clearly more of some than the other). The issue is mostly the sparring style, which teaches you bad habits. Grab some Taekwondo or Karate guys, trained in the TRADITIONAL methods, not just the strikes and blocks, but the self-defesne techniques that incorporate some takedowns/throws/legsweeps and some groundwork. Have them spar under MMA rules. You'll see notable improvement.
Krav Maga is like MMA, it literally takes moves from other martial arts and brings them together. So yeah, if a krav maga guy and and mma guy have a fight to the death, my money is on the mma guy. While you are worried about eye gouging the mma guy is putting you in an armbar and taking your arm home with him.
Not true Muay thai can self defense too. you don't know true power in muay thai Pro muay thai can knockout you in 1 hit or you need style like krav maga you can watch Muay lert rit modern of muay boran. You know. why you not know it because you is in coconut shell. you never see world wide.
You should learn Boxing, Muay Thai, Karate, And Taekwondo for striking (Muay Thai also has insanely good clinch fighting) Judo, Wrestling, BJJ, and Sambo for Grappling/takedowns/takedown defense and maybe do some Krav Maga and Kali on the side if your focus is more for self defense🤷♂️. If you're going absolutely for the all out approach doing everything I suggested and then adding Wing Chun, Mcmap, Kendo,Fencing, Savate, and extensive firearms training would suit your needs🤷♂️
Self defense is a mentality. Not an art. The best art is learning to NOT get in a fight. "Does ___ work in a fight" cannot be judged based on what works in the ring. You never know what someone else has or knows. Avoid the fight and if forced: win at all costs and cheat if necessary.
I like how you're hiding your real thoughts even though they're obvious. Trust me man, let go of all of your notions of beating a trained fighter in a fight. The only way you're doing that is with a gun, distance, and an element of surprise. And Thats no longer a self defend situation Thats murder.
Universal Martial Arts Center I enjoy your assumptions my friend. The point of the video was to figure out what was the best mix for mma but I dont see how self defense comes into it Trust me when I say that I'm of the same opinion when it comes to self defense but personally I feel the only way to be comfortable in walking away from a fight is being as prepared as you can, only those who are afraid they will lose get into fights as they feel they have something to prove. You'll have to take my word for it (which has no value to you as I dont know you) when I say I'v done karate (an essentially bullshit martial art if I'm honest but a martial art nonetheless) for many years and quite to take up mma just so you know Im not a bullshiter on the internet. Also could you make clear what point you were trying to get across ? Its obvious you're not as unstable as have the commenters on fighting orientated videos
My opinion about effect martial arts - boxing for pure power in punches; taewkondo and Muay Thai for standing versatility; bjj for ground combat; capoeira for movement training, spatial awareness, and unorthodox fighting stances; and judo/Hapkido for getting close and having takedowns when clinched or tussling.
Max Mark alright do boxing then, just saying it’s pretty time consuming to do all of them at once might as well focus on Muay Thai instead of boxing since there’s more in Muay Thai and is much better for MMA
Wrestling conquered the UFC it's the most dominant in all of MMA Daniel Cormier, Jon Jones, Tyron Woodley, TJ Dillashaw, Dan Henderson, Cain Velasquez, Luke Rockhold, Chris Weidman, Khabib Nurmagomedov, Georges Saint-Pierre, Chad Mendes, Dominick Cruz, Henry Cejudo, Brock Lesnar, Dan Severan, Cheal Sonnen, Randy Couture, Mark Coleman, Rashad Evans, Quinton Rampage Jackson, Anthony Johnson, Tim Sylvia... The Names speak for them selves No other Style has these many Stars/Champions so it's a fact... Wrestling is superior.
@Alistair Mercer it doesn't really matter, the styles of wrestling mostly are the same the differences are the rules how to win a match the same is identical. The training of wrestling is very similar to MMA and in wrestling there is also a weightcut wich in other Martial Arts isn't as important. Also the strength taught in wrestling is unmatched and gives a big Advantage in the octagon. Wrestling in general teaches taking someone down from a standing position or defend from a takedown or throw and ground controll and work/throws from the clinch. when those skills are transferred in MMA you dominate most of the skills in MMA
@Alistair Mercer the different style are just stronger in specific things like Greco Roman Wrestling in the clinch or Freestyle Wrestling in double leg or other takedowns they still all teach the same skills
@Gas Mercer Although they would run over the UFC I think those Russian guys have an edge over the mongolians nothing can stop sadulaev right now and they seem to get better everytime they fight they definitely have a bright future in front of them
the best base to have for MMA is wrestling and boxing. BJJ can be nullified easily with good takedown defense and kickboxing is highly overrated. the boxing defense of kickboxers and thai is awful see: Nate Diaz vs Cerrone Cro Cop vs Gonzaga 1 Edson barbosa vs Jamie Varner Ernesto Hoost vs Bob Sapp Jose Aldo vs Conor Mcgregor Overeem vs everyone Joanna Jędrzejczyk is a muay thai world champion and she got rocked in the hands department in her last 2 fights.
Guard Passer first of all if a Wrestler or anyone does a takedown on Bjj they will be in serious trouble; they will get caught and trapped. Say what you want about Joanna (muay Thai) but she's defeated everyone she's faced. Include BJJ, fighters from the "hands drpartment", Wrestlers etc
Guard Passer kickboxing not overrated and boxing defense in muay thai and kick boxing is not horrible. You haven't seen good examples of mma fighters who are primarily muay thai and kickboxers. Anderson Silva has amazing head movement and boxing defense and he a muay thai striker. And two former muay thai champs that beat Holly who is a boxer and they got good defense and jose aldo got good head movement. Can't go by the fight with conor. Aldo bull rushed conor out of anger cuz conor got in his head. Overeem vs everyone? You must have not seen all his fights especially the one against junior dos Santos(who is one of the best boxers in the ufc) and overeem beat him. And edson barboza has good defense and he showed it many times notably against ross Pearson who is primarily a boxer and he beat him. And guys with great take down defense have been taken down before and submitted....
well you didnt mention Jon Jones, arguably the best fighter ever, he ktfo'd cormier with his muay thai. anyways i agree, boxing and wrestling is the most safe combination to go for mma since you can dictate where the fight goes
I'm a boxer and I'm going to start bjj soon, I want to be a pro boxer but I think bjj is good to have for street fights because you are in a world of trouble if you don't know what you are doing on the ground, I can stand with anyone time to get my ground game up💪🏻Lets goooo
thats an over exaggeration. he actual said *"maybe wing chun isnt going to work predominately, but if you lets say you knock someone out with a kung fu backfist, you cant argue it doesnt work."* i hear your sentiment though. i have trained in wing chun but my teacher was actual street fighter so we NEVER did the shit that he knew didnt work in regular combat.
The perfect answer for this video is: "Be Water my friends"
+Thats Cute No water = no humanity = no mma
+Depth Julz
But they are not water
+Sacciuiguai that man was ahead of his time, MMA before the term even existed.
cubandarknez
Yes he was a crazy mofo indeed, but MMA is a different game, you dont know how good bruce lee was in a street fight.
you probably doesnt even know what it means
I hate when people call mma ufc
I have done that I am sorry.
I do too
i hate when people call ufc mma
you cant train a championship as a sport
Luke Martindale boii shut yo ass up
Bruce Lee's philosophy
Absorb what is useful
Discard what is useless
And add what is uniquely your own
Correct 💯
Just master a few martial art and form your own
@@newcityenzo "just master a few" mastering any can be quite the endeavor, those who master multiple martial arts are literally the legends and future legends of the sport [mma.] Dedicated their lives to it. Your comment makes it sound simple, but really it's the incredible dedication and commitment that we admire in pro fighters from any discipline.
You missed the first step. It's
"Research your own material"
Hence every standing style in the world becoming to look like Muay Thai lmfao
“Absorb what is useful, Discard what is not, Add what is uniquely your own.” - Bruce Lee
Gabriel Blas 👍💪
Jdk is fun and I like it because it’s designed for creative styles and building upon what’s already there the way Bruce lee wanted it ;)
@@gavinallison3635 I thought I'm the only one who replies to comments that are years old
💯 percent true
@@sub2pewdeadpie nope
Muay Thai for striking, Wrestling for takedowns and BJJ for the ground
Agree
Nah Muay Thai + judo or Kung Fu BJJ you can't learn 3 different martial arts you won't be good at any of them. 2 works best in my opinion
@@jinspence697 see bro once you know the basic you can adapt to others more quickly... if u are a black belt in bjj learning judo won't take as long as it would have taken if u were a complete beginner and then wrestling.. so boxing,muay thai,bjj,judo and wrestling seems good
@@legendrysuperman Yah but those two are alike. If you could learn BJJ and judo it would make sense because they are similar. But Muay Thai, wrestling and BJJ are all different so it would be difficult to learn all of them and still be good at all 3
do sanda and bjj.the best martial arts
Just go 90% Judo and 10% Crazy and you can dominate the women's divison
I think BJJ, Boxing and TKD and you can dominate any division
Chrizzle94 aka ronda rousey
Chrizzle94 that's a great way to get knocked out once you start fighting good fighters
I SAW IT, as the great robert downey jr quote: NOT A GREAT PLAN...
Chrizzle94 talk to Rhonda Rousey after she get over that headache she has👽👍
1) Boxing: best foot work of all sports and fastest and strongest punches (works the best against multiple opponents and most people on the street dont know how to grapple or kick, also the chances of fighting someone who actually knows how to use any of those are pretty low) also fights usually start face to face you can get a knock out) also know how to use your reach and maintain distance, they work the best with everyday clothes such as jeans as the legs are used for footwork and not kicking, also (in my opinion) works the best agaisnt multiple opponents because of footwork and mobility, also more speed and power on their punches than other combatants from different arts.
Weaknesses: If you can get through the jab,uppercut, and cross and somehow close distance and neutralize his punches and take him to the ground you probably got this fight, leg kicks also work very effective if you dont let them come in and make you use your hands also the way their feet are placed could be destroyed by leg kicks causing them not be able to put weight on their legs losing mobility and power on their punches, their punches are more powerful than their hand could handle so if they hit a too hard spot like the forhead they could break their knuckles
2)Muay Thai: Best leg kicks, knees, and elbows but most importantly the clinch, muay thai fighters can use their whole body as a weapon.
Weaknesses: Feet too close together, although good for blocking kicks they are open for takedowns and would have a harder time sprawling (wrestling defensive takedown move) than a boxer, also less mobility, foot work and punches than a boxer (however their hands are still better than your average Joe),the fact that you might have too tight pants on which would be harder for you to kick.
3)Wrestling/BJJ: Best ground game, they are good at take downs and submissions.
Weaknesses: Using jeans could interfere with your grappling ability, you could get hurt from grappling on hard floor, the chances of there being more than 1 opponent are too high, you could get picked up and slammed on the top of your head ( if you have them on a submission with their face facing towards you and their legs are free).
My thoughts: Practice any sport you like because if you choose a sport that you dont like you could be really bad at it and could be unmotivated causing you to get beat up in a streetfight, when it comes to these 4 sports there is no best or worst however each have their on weaknesses and strengths, try to be open minded and lets say if you love boxing try to learn the MT clinch, leg kicks and elbows and some grappling techniques (although you wont be nearly as good as someone who trains you can still be better than the average Joe).
Have a good day and plz leave your opinion I want to hear it :)
Edit: Lol I had completely forgotten about this comment and never thought I would get this amount of feedback. Now that I've re-read it I would like to point out a couple things:
1) Please excuse my last yt name. I made this account when I was like 12-13😅
2) My opinion was mostly based on the more technical and theoretical side of things. Of course most of these martial arts' particular styles can be changed from situation to situation to wtv you feel like fits the best. But at the same time the basics and fundamentals are always there.
3) Remember this is a street fight scenario we're talking about. Which I admit I failed to actually analyze to its full extent. Living in a somewhat rougher neighborhood and seen some things. What a person would do in a street fight is not that predictable. When going into a street fight remember just that, this is the streets. Keep an open mind and always prioritize your safety over winning the fight. Safe up yall✊
I like turtles!
Totally agree. Further to above, I think you should have a solution for every range the street fight is in. For me: Outside range: Defensive footwork/intimidation/stance changes/asses situation, front kick, teep. Inside kicking range: Head movement/boxing footwork, counter punches, roundhouses to body/legs (head kicks only if the situation is very dire and you need to drop him right away or you have a lot of space). Punching range: Straight punches, Thai clinch w/knees & elbows, throws, takedowns. On the floor: BJJ/get the fuck up.... If it's 1v1 bjj all the way, every time. If you're in a crowd; either get up or go for a last ditch back-take, sink in a RNC and yell "i'll break his neck!" as loud as you can (so his friends back off.)
You have way too few likes. At last a comment that is worth reading.
I love this comment and i respect your opinion but there's different muay thai styles. I'm a muay thai fighter i have a little wider fight stand but when in clinch my legs are next to each other so i can move them in any direction without losing balance. and actually muay thai is better in a street fight and me and alot of my friends tried it, when you're close a punch is so fuckin good but dude nothing hurts more than an elbow on close range i swear I've seen guys with their face slashed like if someone attacked them with a knife because of elbows. Check my Instagram account and you'll see what I'm talking about it's yahya_namrouqa.
Ps I'm not asking you to follow me or like my content
100 percent bro
"The best martial art is the sport you practise with joy for the rest of your life."
That's fucking wholesome right there
Until somebody tries to beat your fuckin ass and you think you're a badass with a bullshido black belt.
XD
@@revealtherock what if you got a bjj black belt and a bullshido one tho :O
Respectable quote. But that depends
The best martial art? There is no such a thing like that, fighting is not about which martial art is the best.. it is more about WHO is the best.
The best martial art is mixed lol
Kung Fu only works in Hong Kong movies they also can fly
@@ryanmcdonald5944 yeah, like GSP did, Karate, Kick Boxing, Wrestling and BJJ
No every martial arts works if it is adapted enough just look at wonder boy
Dog GSP did Tkd
The best Martial art is the one you enjoy the most.
D K9 True. Then you'll enjoy practicing and therefore excel.
Robert Roberts A
Then you can enjoy getting the shit beaten out of you.
Yes. Depends on the scenario. Your footwork might help but so long as you bring your weapon of choice ;) you should be ok
just b urself
The most effective martial art is - running.
I agree... if you run directly into your oponents fist you have to feel only a single punch
+Bauchnabel mit Bart is your pic a donut or a belly button
Haha the second. Bauchnabel mit Bart means belly button with beard in german xD And yes I know there is no beard I just didn't wanted to see a "beard" every time I go on youtube^^
what if you can't run
+wildbestia parkour?
In mma, imo Jiu jitsu is a must, you have to at least know the basics otherwise you're going to get raped on the ground. So, an overall skilled fighter would have to be decent in boxing, kickboxing (or muay thay), and Jiu jitsu. Boxing may not sound important if you already know kickboxing, but the footwork you get from boxing is unmatched, plus the fist speed and combos you learn are much more superior then any other martial art.
Agree. I train Boxing and BJJ as I don't plan on doing MMA in a ring. I wouldn't dare kick in a street fight, so don't bother with Muay Thai
Lazu Gheorghe valid points EXCEPT for your assertion of boxing being superior to all other martial arts. Without getting into being really technical right away, I'll first submit this: why would you limit yourself to only using half of your available weapons/techniques? It's all too easy to make an uninformed argument like kicking techniques not working in actual fighting (history disagrees), and it's plain to see why this line of logic developed, as most practitioners tend to throw high kicks that are easy to see coming, but to then broadly assume that kicking techniques in general don't work based on a single form of application is simply foolhardy. Any martial art(ist) of worthy repute will make great use of low-level kicking techniques that attack the legs as well. Just look at Muay Thai as a simple example, with their ONE low kicking technique that they use heavily, but vary application, and excel in the finer nuances of the technique, is one of the things that make Muay Thai such a fearsome and respected style. To reiterate, they only really use a single low kick technique, but refine it to the point of being devastating. So what's to stop styles of Kung Fu, karate and tae kwon do from using their kicking techniques to attack legs, and achieving similar results? More poignantly perhaps in light of your assertion of boxing being superior to other martial arts, is this simple question: what defense does boxing offer against such attacks? I'll allow that they can be avoided in some circumstances through the use of footwork, which you so lovingly espouse, though without a more robust defense against such tactics, you're pretty much setting yourself up for failure, as, though good it may be, the footwork in boxing is not without flaw. Additionally, your point of boxing's footwork being unrivaled, also bears some scrutiny. What measure is this claim made by? If you're saying this based solely on personal belief, then I would suggest you more deeply study the advanced footwork of traditional martial arts, much of which can actually be learned from Bruce Lee's writings. It's true he drew heavy inspiration from boxing, but he also drew equally heavily from traditional martial arts. While Bruce Lee decries traditional martial arts for their rigidity, you'll find that with deep study from properly qualified instructors, that many of the same principals of footwork also exist in traditional styles. If you don't see that in a given style or school, than they aren't properly adhering to their own tradition, which is sadly the. case in the majority of marital schools these days. In any case, don't be so dismissive of combative systems that have been in use for over a lifetime, and certainly not without doing proper research.
false. takedown defense is a must.
Guard Passer this is also true. though I'm unclear, is your response to me, or OP?
Shotgun Zombie OP.
Wrestlers have learned that good Sub defense and TDD they can negate bjj
Does MMA work in kung fu?
+Micah Hepler The real question, haha.
+Kevin Ouellet I'd say that's a good general summary.
I practise kung fu, in the kung fu there are punches, kicks and a bit of knees and elbows,so it can works.
No
+Carlos Cadiz you're Wrong Kung fu is shit your going to get knocked out
Dude on the thumbnail looks like he's about to hit somebody with the meanest Raging Demon lol.
I didn't know akuma took in students
+Fearious Mcclary Nah, that's straight Satsui No Hado.
+Fearious Mcclary Nah, that's straight Satsui No Hado.
Man I need to learn that
Metsu!
Apparently predominantly wrestling means you can go 27-0 tho
Now 28-0 but that's not because of his martial art, it is because of his dedication to that martial art
This man is also world class in his art and was raised in a village in "crazy mountains". He got that technique, work strength, and overall crazy Russian durability
Are you talking about khabib
Sumair Ebrahim
No
29-0
My Muay Thai gym incorporates some Taekwondo elements into some lessons and it helps a lot
+SpooklordNito Yup, I do Kick-boxing and we incorporate Taekwondo and elbow/knee techniques from Muay Thai.
I'm from Argentina. Yeah, we do a lot of techniques, even when the class is over my trainer teach us how to defend against a takedown and useful techniques. I'm better at boxing, footwork and kicks though. Don't know anything about grappling... yet!
Lol! Someday we will learn grappling, my friend, someday!
February 18, my friend! We are almost there!
sweet my tkd school incorporates some muay Thai style low kicks and elbows
3:03 Woah chill man just got beaten up that’s why i’m watching this vid
😂 😂 😂
If an Ameridote practitioner competes in MMA, he would own everyone, including the referee.
But they'd also get disqualified, or end up killing everyone watching from home through killface! :(
Mouldy CPU "I'm master Ken. and today we are going to talk, about why MMA IS BULLSHIT!"
ranga pubes fucking love that channel
The most important thing in a fight is your MIND. Before you brush my comment off as an unfounded and vaguely spiritual non-statement, hear me out please:
Look at a guy like Jon Jones; he obviously has good techniques and natural body mechanics that allow him to do many of the incredible things that he does, but, most importantly he has a primitive, savage, animal-like focus when he fights. A technique can always be perfected and the point of doing so is to have, for example, a straight punch that is as fast and as powerful as possible while expending the least energy possible, this is all well and good and absolutely essential for a fighter.. a savage with no technique will never beat a trained fighter.
Anyway, technique is just an asset, like speed and power, it doesn't allow you to find a way to win, to read your opponent and absorb his intentions, to adapt to his new game-plan or to flow between other techniques to make you less predictable.
Look at how cats fight; it's pure instinct, when on its' back, feet on the hips, always controlling posture, always clawing to do as much damage as possible and ALWAYS moving perfectly from the hips. Fighting is a creative process, an art, not a skill!
Most people won't read this but I really wanted to sum up what I've learned during a lifetime of trying that finally led me to an understanding. This sounds stupid, but try to play a medieval fighting game such as Mount & Blade and you'll soon realise that even in an environment as simple as that one, winning is not about technique, it's about focus.
Great video, Shane, as always!!!
Sincere Regards
You made some very insightful points. like you have realized those things as well but it didn't take me that long tbh. Not that its a race or anything but like you I can look past the physical side of things and get down to the root of it all. Buried in the mind. I love what you said man. Very profound
ayeGARY I didn't just realize it after a lifetime and decide to make a comment, badly formulated.. I meant that I've confirmed that belief over and over again having been training in martial arts and other sports for a very long time.
Thanks for your reply brother!
Agreed. Without the RIGHT type of focus, skill is nothing. That is how Royce Gracie beat Kemo who was 60 lbs heavier then him.
TLDR
best combination for MMA
1.Muay Thai
2.BJJ
3.Wrestling
Sanātana Dharma that's already mma 😂 how bout karate it's a good standup art, judo is a good grappling art
Sanātana Dharma no boxing?
Muay Thai , BJJ or any other. Boxing is always the sweetest of them all . . caz it is the way it is .
+Gray Kin Muay thai lacks movement, head movement, punches, combinations and poor footwork. They only have good kicks.
Gray Kin Dutch style Muay thai is a beast. Normal traditional Muay thai is just Ok.
They punch, but they just send out little jabs to measure distance and such. That's pretty much the only boxing technique they know, as well a simple Jab+cross. I never see them use more combo's involving more than 5 attacks.
Most people who use Muay thai in MMA put in more footwork, more of a boxing stance for hands and use head work. THAT IS NOT THOUGHT IN TRADITIONAL MUAY THAI!
A real Street fight is going to be fucking fast! No putting high guard, little movement stances with no headwords and only throwing roundhouse kicks to the body. Although, Muay thai is good with upper body wrestling, elbows and knees.
I wish the ufc was like how it originally started It would be cook to see one person strictly work on one martial vs another like golden glove boxrr vs a black belt
yeah it would have been so much fun , ahhh well...
That’s facts
You'll just see the sport evolve to the way it is now when people start adapting to each others styles.
Well then it wouldn't be mma
The Martial Art which Khabib Nurmagomedov,Rustom Khabilov practise,Sambo something I forgot is also pretty legit.
its a form of wrestling basically
Fedor also..
Robert C. Christian I'll watch it
Robert C. Christian Yeah I looked up on mmaversus and youtube but it's on neither of them
Robert C. Christian Hey thanks a lot
Good rant. :)
MMA evolved and seemingly plateaued at MT/Boxing + Wrestling + BJJ, but I'm glad athletes are experimenting with introducing elements of other styles and implementing stuff that works for them. I remember back in the early days of MMA, that head kicks were denounced as ineffective. It's exciting to witness the evolution.
It is exciting, I agree! Thanks for the comment :)
+fightTIPS I think mma gyms should teach some karate I believe it could prepare fighters for opponents who were previously traditional martial artists
They're fundamental. MT/Boxing/Wrestling/BJJ are the 4 most effective combat styles. Adding other elements from other styles are great. But these 4 will forever be the Pillar of MMA.
Btw, any source for that "head kicks were denounced as ineffective in MMA early days" ???
Aoaoos
+Brock McClain head kicks weren't infective ever.
Basing this purely on the UFC, most fighters with wrestling backgrounds and good stand up are at the top of their divisions. I personally like boxing + wrestling with defensive bjj
But then you don't know how to kick
Kick boxing/ Muay Thai + wrestling/ bjj?
I run a boxing/jiu jitsu split but honestly I feel like the best split would be Muay Thai with wrestling and bjj, Muay Thai = overpowered standup and if you are even just somewhat competent in bjj and wrestling you’ll have mean ground game.
That combination would be trash, replace boxing with Muay Thai and replace wrestling with judo, and don’t just learn BJJ for defense use it to its full capacity
@@Histgyph bruh
You make a solid point, and I agree, there is no such thing as a perfect martial art ratio because people are imperfect, and their individual aptitudes catalyze each art differently. The closest we can come to our own best is through experimentation, and eventually getting a feel for what works best in regards to the individual. Despite saying that, if there was one art that would reign as the best to learn for a practical 1 on 1 situation, it would probably be jujutsu.
Going off that part where you mentioned we're in a transition stage, I agree. I think in the early days, fighters came in with their specialty, in which MMA evolved into having mainly Muay Thai + Wrestling + BJJ. From 2012 and on, I noticed fighters were starting to cherry pick aspects of other martial arts outside of the three, like the front kicks and side kicks you mentions (from Taekwondo).
What I would really like to see is more of Kung Fu or Capoeira incorporated into MMA. People like Dana White make fun of those styles, saying they would never work and it's all just for a fancy show, but I think there are some techniques that could be effective.
My god..... He said jifs
So does the creator of gifs. www.cnn.com/2013/05/22/tech/web/pronounce-gif/
Obviously that's how u pronounce it
Yeah obviously. It comes from Jraphics Interchange Format.
Even if the creator is dumb, you don't have to be.
How do you pronounce Giraffe?
+Crispen Leblanc jiraffe
What I tend to tell people who want to learn what MMA is. I usually say this. The base martial arts everyone has to learn is Jiu-Jitsu, Wrestling, Boxing. Then on top of that you have other martial arts that add more depth to your skills. Such as kick boxing, muay thai, greko roman and so on. And certain guys are so good at one of the bases that they use that as their main tool to win fights. Like Damian Maia, a world class BJJ guy. He's going to want to take it to the ground as he 99.9% of the time has the advantage.
I like learning more than one martial art because I can correlate their many aspects and incorporate what I learn into each of them, MMA in a nutshell.
Dude on the thumbnail looks like he's about to hit somebody with the meanest Raging Demon.
Yeah but he is a journeyman
+Keith corrigan Yeah from myself nigga.
+IccyTheOne umm..what
He had just done it
I've seen that episode of TUF. He KO'd someone with a spinning kick to the face
Zabit Magomedsharipov and Valentina Shevchenko are examples of great versatile fighters who strongly incorporate traditional martial arts (Wushu and Taekwondo respectively) into their fighting styles. Both incredible well-rounded fighters!
Wushu and sanda made zabit magomedsharipov's kicks great,not taekwondo
The predominant branch.
Go
Wrestling-BJJ
Boxing- Muay Thai.
First, get the fundamentals of fighting. Then for styles, Wrestling is the most important. Then boxing. Then you can move to the more nuanced cousins enabled by the skills of wrestling and boxing, which will set the threshold between street effective and an amateur MMA amateur. These would be BJJ and Muay Thai, respectively.
In the ultimate guide, I’d go;
-Learn to get scrappy (basic strikes, takedowns, awareness)
-Greco-Roman wrestling
-Boxing
-BJJ
-Muay Thai
You will then have a solid foundation that can keep you afloat in a fight if you ever attempt some crazy kung fu shit that fails or backfires. Don’t attempt to master everything like you master the basics and these core four, otherwise your fight awareness and strategy becomes diluted. As a man whom you might just know once said,
“I don’t fear the fighter who has learned 1000 kicks, but the fighter who has practiced a kick 10000 times.”
Great video! I first encountered the feint-roundhouse to front kick in kung fu class. Really tricky move! Chinese martial arts use a lot of those and so do Karate and Silat. Well, we are all limited to two arms and two legs, so our fighting styles are bound to be quite similar, right? 😊
Wrestling mixed with jiu jitsu is the best you take the least amount of damage and you give the most damage kind of like Demian Maia's style
*What damage does Maia do?*
*Didn't see any damage.*
+J Junior *Still didn't see much damage.*
+J Junior *Fight me*
+Keyboard Warrior well your name explains your attitude... lol
The front kick, side kick, jumping front kick are also in Karate along with Taekwondo. You can see more and more of Karate & Taekwondo in MMA in stances. People like Sage Northcut uses that stance where he is angled & not squared off on the hips like in Muay Thai.
I don't believe their is one perfect ratio for MMA, I do however believe that their is a martial art for every single body type, and that certain techniques work better for certain people, I for one have a 36-7 inch leg reach at 5'8 so I'm not going to be throwing and Andy Hug axe kicks. it does mean however I have a mean vertical side kick to the face though from a range most wouldn't expect it from.
Best ratio is 100% aikido
Seagal bless
+Marcus Hagey Exactly, that's what I was trying to say the whole time.
+fightTIPS What about catch wrestling? I've heard people say it's great for mma. People like josh Barnett and kazushi sakaraba have done really well in mma using catch wrestling.
+Solitaryfitness I've looked into catch wrestling and schools are scarce. I think it's basically submission over position compared to BJJ.
+Solitaryfitness I've looked into catch wrestling and schools are scarce. I think it's basically submission over position compared to BJJ.
+Marcus Hagey Yes exactly bro, catch wrestler prefer the top position and are crazy skilled with submissions. I once read they really have an infinite amount of submissions!
Just got my Shodan in karate super excited to start MMA and Bjj now!
Awesome!!! Congrats!
The best martial art is the one "I" am doing.
It doesnt matter which martial art do You do, but how Well you can it ~ DK Yoo
yes it does the question they are asking is if I put x amount of time/energy into a martial art which will leave me the most capable
I used to watch you back in like 2010 about street fight tips, stumbled across this, glad you're doing your thing and some
I’ve never practiced martial arts, but I’ve been looking into it a lot. I’ve been thinking of taking Brazilian Jiu Jitsu for self defense and also I’ve been hearing a lot it is the best to learn for grappling. Then later learning Muay Thai because for one I’ve always wanted to learn it since I first saw Ong Bak, and two it looks devastating and I know it incorporates a lot of striking and clenching.
Muay Thai first for self defence.
Hey Shane, love your vids; but I was wondering if you could do another boxing video that can show us how to use the "Dempsey Roll" by Jack Dempsey & how it can be used properly in the right moment.
Watch the anime "Hajime no Ippo". You'll be a boxing champ in no time. :D
Juan Martinez you watched hajime no ippo :v?
It is good to hear someone talking about martial arts with no nonsense theory.
it doesn't exist...every martial art have his weak points that can be exploited in order to defeat the opponent
MA cant be exploited if you use it in correct way
That's the reason mma exists.
Balance a martial art's weakness by adding a different one
@@ItsAstie Although i agree, if you take 1 practitioner of every martial art the jiu jitsu guy almost always wins. But yeah, the best thing is to know MMA. Become a boxing beast and have a black belt in jiu jitsu. Then you are almost untouchable. ALMOST. You will always have a chance of losing
@@Jake-cy7to boxing def helps with dodges and footwork as well, but in the long term muay thai is better. it teaches to strike with punches, kicks, elbows and knees, besides the good clinching techniques it may offer. if a person practices muay thai right, they wont be too square and will have the proper technique to attack, defend and counter. I would say muay thai + BJJ is a great combo, although other fighting styles can be mixed in to help even more, such as a bit of wrestling, boxing, etc.
@@volted_blitz8230 muay thai is amazing, i trained it and i loved it. However is a bit lacking in the defensive deppartment footwork and headmovement wise. But using kicks, knees and elbows and also clinch positions is amazing in a fight and something everyone should know. Definately
Best Martial Arts forma MMA: Jiu-Jitsu, Taekwondo, Karate, Muay Thai and Wrestling
Boxing>TKD in my opinion but too each his own
@@Hatingonyall2023 I agreed punch is the most effective weapone in street fight why? because without the glove the punch can go very fast and very hard to block also the elbow and knee
@@Candyyycoatedliesno cause with kicks you have the distance and the time to hit so. Also I'm black belt taekwondo and 1 month ago I fucked up 2 kickboxers with 2 kicks on their heads while they were coming to hit me so that's why the distance is very important
No??? MMA best martial arts r: 1. muay thai 2. bjj 3. Sambo/Combat Sambo *for sure) 4. Wrestling and probably in top 10 kung fu.
@@Мартин654 your opinion but everyone use taekwondo kicks in mma or ufc
In MMA I learned boxing, bjj and wrestling, but also techniques that are specific to MMA. For examples when practicing bjj we learned how to defend from punches and ground & pound. So I think MMA is not simply a addition of different sports and martial arts but a sport of its own because the mix of differents sports can't be done without adaptations and news techniques.
ive been studying wing chun, aikido, mma, muay thai, boxing, dk yoo, systema, bjj, judo, wrestling, a little silat, and a few others. they all have something useful to offer, what makes it effective in the ring or on the street is your own ability to flow, your own timing and your own creativeness.
train the skill not the technique and itll be just like sending signals to your body to strike or grapple or sweep or break or lock. its all useful in its own time and place.
I've said it many times: It's crucial for you to find your own fighting style amidst the traditional. I've learned to create something out of training for years in Muay Thai, Judo and TKD.
For my strikes, I use a mix of good old fashioned pugilism and powerful kicks. For close encounters, I hit with elbows and knees. For grappling, I specialize in submission holds, throws and sweeps.
My weakness is groundwork - namely because I kind of think BJJ is a bit overrated.
If I ever get the chance to, I'd like to learn Kajukenbo - and eventually teach it.
Your wrong bjj is the most important skill on the ground you could ever learn but a close runner up is wrestling
I’m 14 and I currently practice Muay Thai , wrestling and BJJ and from what I’ve seen in the UFC that’s pretty much all that is needed and people tell me that , but it’s not about the martial art is about the fighter
The problem is that people think that if they practice bjj,or muay thay, they automatically assume that they are pro fighters.
And bruce wayne . Mastered boxing, savate français, judo, aikido, all the forma of karate, muay thai, taekwando, hapkido, krav maga, jui jitsu, wrestling, all fight displines of ninjutsu, wing chun, jeet kun do, kali and silat and even capoeira.
The best combo for MMA
BJJ
Taekwondo
Muay Thai
Judo
To be honest. A fun way of seeing how each art has value (Even arts you don't really see in the mma setting), I recommend a manga book called "all rounder meguru". That book is insanely technical in the martial arts topic with Muay Thai, Wrestling, Boxing, Karate, etc. It just gives each art a spotlight of their own while maintaining a great story. Overall, I agree with Shane in this vid.
40% takedowns40% submissions20% boxing
Muay Thai for Standup
Judo for Ground (Takedowns and NEWAZA)
Then you're good to go.
I would add BJJ, with judo you have unstoppable takedowns but you don't have as good of a ground game as bjj. And also boxing. Muay Thai is awesome but it lacks a bit of footwork, mixing it with boxing really makes you waaay better.
Salion Yoda dont you learn enough takedowns in BJJ? if you arent learning takedowns in bjj or just a few her and there then its a good idea to have a weekly class of judo maybe
@@haltdieklappe7972 But Judo has better takedowns doesn't it?
Salion Yoda BJJ actually uses some judo takedowns but yeah judo has much more amd better takedowms
I do like some blocking moves from Karate and Kung Fu, but my main focus is Muay Thai, Boxing and Jiu-Jitsu, I would love to practice Karate or Aikido during summer since I train for free at school. And I think that moves like front kicks, side kicks and some throwing techniques are way too common to be classified as part of an specific martial art
I think a good combination would be Muay Thai, BJJ, judo and TKD
@victor campos. Add boxing and wrestling to that list and I would say you have covered the meat and potatoes.
@@unknownanonymous289 i would say that boxing is kind of covered by Muay Thai and wrestling is covered by bjj
In my point of view the best combination for MMA is:
Taekwondo
Muay thai
BJJ
Box
Add some wrestling to it
I'd argue you need a solid foundation in wrestling too unless you wanna get Khabib'd on the ground
Muay Thai and BJJ with a bit of wrestling
jifs?
That's how to inventor of gifs says it.
They should have told him peanut butter already took it!
i turned it off when i heard that
nonononononononononononononononono
Lautaro Fonz ah remember Jif, that Lemon shit? 😀
I liked ur vid very much, keep up the good work =).. allow me pls to say some stuff abou wing chun.. No serious Wing Chun Fighter would ever use the posture u demontrated as an example.. already by looking at it one can see that its dmn weak for attacks around the sides, be it high kicks spinning back fists or just some left or right hocks.. In wingchun one is standing with the shoulders down and the chest pushed forward while the chin is pulled as far back as possible.. The hand position looks similar to a wing chun style position but for me it looks like u are intendig to block this way.. In Wing chun how ever this is not a blocking poition. The idea is to put ur hands in a position from witch u intercept & deflect incoming strikes, while starting ur counter attack. where for u have to put ur shoulders down in a relaxed mode to give ur arms max mobility and swiftness... Interesting is that u talk about attacks throu the center, since wing chun is all about those. Turning slightly to avoid central attacks is a central theme of wing chun exercise as well. Talking about leg positioning: a problem many mma fighters who use a boxing stance have is they are exposing their front leg to low kicks and stop kicks to the lower leg or knee. In wing chun one favours having all the wight on the leg wich is more far away from the oponent. This allows to relocate ur frontleg swiftly in case it is attacked by kicks.
There for i think good wing chun would be an enrichment for every mma fighter.
But could an all wing chun fighter go in the octagon and succede? Most likely not. For in wing chun there is neither taked down defence nor groundfighting..
As well a wing chun fighter would face big problems with the rule set. Wing Chun is not a sport but a fighting system... this means all effective attacks can be used. may it be small scale leverage, or attacking of vital points like eyes, groin, etc. As well as kicking an oponent on the ground or delivering blows to the neck or back of the head.
All these attacks are forbiden for good reason. Nobody wants the athletes to suffer severe injury.
But this should demonstrate why Wing chun does not fit into the octagon.. while its used in military and police close combat training.
I think nobody will read this long comment in case you did.. thank u very much.. As i stated earlier great video =)
JCVD said use any technique that works never limit yourself to one style or one way of doing things and keep an open mind...
My best combination for MMA
- Karate
- Boxing
- Kyokushin
- Jujitsu
- Wrestle
Isn't KyoKushin a type of Karate?
And there was no actual ratio for what is good in MMA.
Taekwondo
Muay Thai
Boxing
Wrestling
Honourable mention: BBJ
I love you shane and you taught me a lot.
BUT ITS PRONOUNCED GIF. NOT JIF
Creator of gifs says jifs
taekwondo itf?
This is some of the most comprehensive stuff I've seen in a long time regarding the Martial Arts, well done!
What's Bruce Lee's favorite drink? WATAAAAA
Has Sanda Sanshou made it into MMA yet? It looks brutal and has some great throws.
Yeah, it's still in it's infancy in international MMA, but it's there. Cung Le was the biggest fighter, but there are others, but sadly most of the others are undercard fighters.
I always wonder, been practicing Sanda for more than 2 years now, the striking is the same but the way you apply the force is different than any other martial arts out there.
Yeah I've been practicing Sanda for the last two years (roughly) as well. It's interesting how similar yet distinct it is from other styles.
Michael Harris
Good to hear, as MMA evolve I am sure Sanda is going to become more popular. Keep it up buddy!
Owen Wu Yeah I think that we'll be seeing it more and more in MMA. Especially since MMA is on the rise here in China and in places like Malaysia and Singapore.
Keep it up on your end too!
In the beginning of MMA, Gracie Jiu-Jitsu and BJJ who had great groundwork but atrocious striking and takedowns dominated.
Then came the Muay Thai and Kickboxers who crossed trained In GJJ/BJJ as well as wrestling like The Chute boxe guys and Chuck Lidell. They could keep the fight standing by neutralizing GJJ/BJJ's groundwork and finish their opponents standing.
Then came the wrestlers who learned that if you can just take them down and smuther them you can win. George St. Pierre and Matt Hughes are two examples.
Then BJJ started improving their game by learning striking and takedowns and they started doing better.
Then dynamic fighters who use a lot of improvising and movement like Dominick Cruz, Demetrious Johnson and TJ Dillashaw started showing a whole new game
.Now big punchers with a good wrestling and good anti Jiu jitsu game like Tyrone Woodley and Stipe Miocic are the top of the food chain.
And then there are guys like Demian Maia who has unreal MMA Jiu jitsu is tying everybody up in knots. You gotta love MMA and the UFC. Always evolving.
1:02 Getting ready for the raging demon
Isshun Sengeki! 👹
Muay thai with boxing footwork
Svetlin Sofiev and basics from bjj
I agree with this man entirely. I'm primarily a Shootfighter with a Taekwondo background but I've done some Judo and BJJ, some catch-wrestling, Savate and JKD, boxing and Muay Thai, I've also learned some wrestling from others and did some Shotokan Karate. I respect ALL styles. I think it's more about how you train than the style. If you like in the HISTORY of most martial arts, many of them came from a combat background and had a degree of striking, takedowns and ground work (though clearly more of some than the other). The issue is mostly the sparring style, which teaches you bad habits. Grab some Taekwondo or Karate guys, trained in the TRADITIONAL methods, not just the strikes and blocks, but the self-defesne techniques that incorporate some takedowns/throws/legsweeps and some groundwork. Have them spar under MMA rules. You'll see notable improvement.
If MMA isn't a martial art then Krav Maga isn't one either.
Krav maga never was a Martial Art it's a 2 week army self defence class for the israeli military
MMA isn't in fact a single martial art, it's essentially the use of two or more of all the existing ones.
Muay Thai, Kyokushin Karate, Boxing, BJJ, Wrestling- For ring fight for championship.
Krav Maga- for killing/self defense only.
Krav Maga is like MMA, it literally takes moves from other martial arts and brings them together. So yeah, if a krav maga guy and and mma guy have a fight to the death, my money is on the mma guy. While you are worried about eye gouging the mma guy is putting you in an armbar and taking your arm home with him.
Michael Townley killing 😭. You might want to check your head if you really hoping to kill someone
Michael Townley what about shotokan
Not true Muay thai can self defense too. you don't know true power in muay thai Pro muay thai can knockout you in 1 hit or you need style like krav maga you can watch Muay lert rit modern of muay boran. You know. why you not know it because you is in coconut shell. you never see world wide.
You should learn Boxing, Muay Thai, Karate, And Taekwondo for striking (Muay Thai also has insanely good clinch fighting) Judo, Wrestling, BJJ, and Sambo for Grappling/takedowns/takedown defense and maybe do some Krav Maga and Kali on the side if your focus is more for self defense🤷♂️. If you're going absolutely for the all out approach doing everything I suggested and then adding Wing Chun, Mcmap, Kendo,Fencing, Savate, and extensive firearms training would suit your needs🤷♂️
1.Boxing
2. Muay Thai
3.bjj/wrestling/judo
4. Create your own hybrid of what works for you.
Self defense is a mentality. Not an art. The best art is learning to NOT get in a fight. "Does ___ work in a fight" cannot be judged based on what works in the ring. You never know what someone else has or knows. Avoid the fight and if forced: win at all costs and cheat if necessary.
I think you missed the point of the video
I like how you're hiding your real thoughts even though they're obvious.
Trust me man, let go of all of your notions of beating a trained fighter in a fight. The only way you're doing that is with a gun, distance, and an element of surprise. And Thats no longer a self defend situation Thats murder.
Universal Martial Arts Center I enjoy your assumptions my friend.
The point of the video was to figure out what was the best mix for mma but I dont see how self defense comes into it
Trust me when I say that I'm of the same opinion when it comes to self defense but personally I feel the only way to be comfortable in walking away from a fight is being as prepared as you can, only those who are afraid they will lose get into fights as they feel they have something to prove. You'll have to take my word for it (which has no value to you as I dont know you) when I say I'v done karate (an essentially bullshit martial art if I'm honest but a martial art nonetheless) for many years and quite to take up mma just so you know Im not a bullshiter on the internet.
Also could you make clear what point you were trying to get across ? Its obvious you're not as unstable as have the commenters on fighting orientated videos
I wasn't speaking to you I was speaking to the OP.
+Ross Mc He made it obvious he was commenting to the other guy, you didn't have to respond with a paragraph wether or not he did reply to you though.
I do mainly MMA but i love seeing other Martial arts discussing if they work and how good they are, 👍🏼 very interesting
I love to eat chocolate. My Style is Toblerone. This is the sweetest Style ever. If i do a Toblerone Move, then every Girl jumps into my bed!!!
Genious comment
@@ChristheCEO1 your comment is more GENIUS than his lmao
@@jimmyconway5169 XD
I train in taekwondo
My opinion about effect martial arts - boxing for pure power in punches; taewkondo and Muay Thai for standing versatility; bjj for ground combat; capoeira for movement training, spatial awareness, and unorthodox fighting stances; and judo/Hapkido for getting close and having takedowns when clinched or tussling.
4:51 your welcome
Where are my taekwondo practitioners at?
Some RUclips User always here!!!!
lol stfu
TAEKWON-DO FOR LIFE
Me
Edzon AllAboard Barboza 10 years
You have to be well rounded. Wrestling is key, if you aren't scared of getting taken down you can utilize kicks even more.
Most effective martial art-flamethrowers and assault rifles
lol you are stupid
search assault weapon on google
someone doesnt get it
I'm 5'10 220, have nearly the exact body measurements as Mike Tyson.. And have never been in a fight in my damn life. I'm a damn teddy bear 😂
+godfather1857 damn.. Never thought about it like that..
+Kevin Ouellet I'd like to, but I do t live anywhere near a serious gym (hence why I don't box to begin with)
You're overweight
Tall and thin fighters:
Striking:
Boxing: 30% • Kickboxing: 30%
Grappling:
Wrestling: 20% • Jiu-Jitsu: 20%
Short and strong fighters:
Striking:
Boxing: 20% • Kickboxing: 20%
Grappling:
Wrestling: 35% • Jiu-Jitsu: 25%
The 3 martial arts you need for MMA:
1) Muay Thai
2) judo
3) bjj
And a little wrestling
idunno 65 boxing?
Jdeckles YT there’s boxing in Muay Thai
@@idunno6548 but not the same skill as boxing
Max Mark alright do boxing then, just saying it’s pretty time consuming to do all of them at once might as well focus on Muay Thai instead of boxing since there’s more in Muay Thai and is much better for MMA
@@idunno6548 im not said that its better then any martial arts. im saying that just punches are better in box, because its only focusing on hands
I excel in my kick boxing
and muay thai
I'm OK with a bit of Tai chi, straight chi kung solidifies my moves
Wing Chun here
Mythical Jackass I excel in watching fight tips videos
Mythical Jackass actually no I don't
Training Kung fu and Muay Thai fucked me up when I tried to follow my Muay Thai curriculum
Wrestling conquered the UFC it's the most dominant in all of MMA
Daniel Cormier, Jon Jones, Tyron Woodley, TJ Dillashaw, Dan Henderson, Cain Velasquez, Luke Rockhold, Chris Weidman, Khabib Nurmagomedov, Georges Saint-Pierre, Chad Mendes, Dominick Cruz, Henry Cejudo, Brock Lesnar, Dan Severan, Cheal Sonnen, Randy Couture, Mark Coleman, Rashad Evans, Quinton Rampage Jackson, Anthony Johnson, Tim Sylvia...
The Names speak for them selves No other Style has these many Stars/Champions so it's a fact...
Wrestling is superior.
@Alistair Mercer it doesn't really matter, the styles of wrestling mostly are the same the differences are the rules how to win a match the same is identical. The training of wrestling is very similar to MMA and in wrestling there is also a weightcut wich in other Martial Arts isn't as important. Also the strength taught in wrestling is unmatched and gives a big Advantage in the octagon. Wrestling in general teaches taking someone down from a standing position or defend from a takedown or throw and ground controll and work/throws from the clinch. when those skills are transferred in MMA you dominate most of the skills in MMA
@Alistair Mercer the different style are just stronger in specific things like Greco Roman Wrestling in the clinch or Freestyle Wrestling in double leg or other takedowns they still all teach the same skills
Some of these names are misleading, old guys and new guys mixed together.
And others, like Jon Jones, practice other martial arts like BJJ.
@@memysurname7521 like it makes a difference when these guys fought...and Jon Jones started of in wrestling and wrestled in college.
@Gas Mercer Although they would run over the UFC I think those Russian guys have an edge over the mongolians nothing can stop sadulaev right now and they seem to get better everytime they fight they definitely have a bright future in front of them
karate and tkd for a nice and strong kicks..like stephen thomson
zed 00 Taekwondo is the best for Kicks
Distance shooter but stephen do karate..is better than tkd
This is so true sir. Please keep informing people.
the best base to have for MMA is wrestling and boxing. BJJ can be nullified easily with good takedown defense and kickboxing is highly overrated. the boxing defense of kickboxers and thai is awful
see: Nate Diaz vs Cerrone
Cro Cop vs Gonzaga 1
Edson barbosa vs Jamie Varner
Ernesto Hoost vs Bob Sapp
Jose Aldo vs Conor Mcgregor
Overeem vs everyone
Joanna Jędrzejczyk is a muay thai world champion and she got rocked in the hands department in her last 2 fights.
Guard Passer first of all if a Wrestler or anyone does a takedown on Bjj they will be in serious trouble; they will get caught and trapped. Say what you want about Joanna (muay Thai) but she's defeated everyone she's faced. Include BJJ, fighters from the "hands drpartment", Wrestlers etc
Guard Passer kickboxing not overrated and boxing defense in muay thai and kick boxing is not horrible. You haven't seen good examples of mma fighters who are primarily muay thai and kickboxers. Anderson Silva has amazing head movement and boxing defense and he a muay thai striker. And two former muay thai champs that beat Holly who is a boxer and they got good defense and jose aldo got good head movement. Can't go by the fight with conor. Aldo bull rushed conor out of anger cuz conor got in his head. Overeem vs everyone? You must have not seen all his fights especially the one against junior dos Santos(who is one of the best boxers in the ufc) and overeem beat him. And edson barboza has good defense and he showed it many times notably against ross Pearson who is primarily a boxer and he beat him. And guys with great take down defense have been taken down before and submitted....
well you didnt mention Jon Jones, arguably the best fighter ever, he ktfo'd cormier with his muay thai. anyways i agree, boxing and wrestling is the most safe combination to go for mma since you can dictate where the fight goes
@FraggingBard bla bla bla, you guys really need to forget bjj and focus on you own Martial Art sucess.
Envy is ugly ...
Wrestling/BJJ is absolutely essential. Any idiot can learn to punch but it takes a master to roll on the ground and submit fools.
Adam01 Oh god.. Are you serious? Have you ever trained? 90% of the scrubs you watch in UFC have no idea how to punch.
Marco Rosales hard to stand up when you’re KO’ed
I'm a boxer and I'm going to start bjj soon, I want to be a pro boxer but I think bjj is good to have for street fights because you are in a world of trouble if you don't know what you are doing on the ground, I can stand with anyone time to get my ground game up💪🏻Lets goooo
50% jujitsu, 50% boxing.
Elvathar Wrestling? Judo?
Elvathar Taekwondo, muay thai?
@5:00 He shits on Wing Chun. Wing Chun is the correct way to incorrectly practice Martial Arts
thats an over exaggeration. he actual said *"maybe wing chun isnt going to work predominately, but if you lets say you knock someone out with a kung fu backfist, you cant argue it doesnt work."* i hear your sentiment though. i have trained in wing chun but my teacher was actual street fighter so we NEVER did the shit that he knew didnt work in regular combat.
wing chun these days is way too much a Hollywood tv-martial arts, opposed to what it used to be
It's for the children of soccer moms. No sparring or contact. No training on how to take a hit. C'mon dude
NuEnque from the moment I got my yellow belt I had to learn sparring during lessons
Yellow belt in what?