Come on man, you like all your bows. Lol I like your bows too. Look a lot like my bows. Your arrows as well. If you checked out any of my bows or arrows you'd be thinking man , are you sure these aren't mine? Lol I love what you've been doing with the horse archery. It wasn't long ago that folks would look at ya sideways if you said you could shoot bows like that accurately.
Awesome video man I was wondering how do you keep the long 8inch fletchings from getting scraped up and messed up against the bow wen you pull it back and shoot it? Also wen your making the old fashion Comanche style arrows how do you keep the fletching’s against the shaft and not pulling up without any glue?
You can’t do a whole lot about wearing out the fletching that is why I prefer tying on instead of gluing , it makes the fletching easier to change and without damaging the arrows , I’ve even started tying on my carbon arrows but a narrow fletching (1/4 in or less) lasts a lot longer than a wider fletching (3/8 or more). If I am tying just the front and back I leave the spine of the fletching thicker after splitting just smoothing the rough edges off then youse the natural curve of the fletching to make the helical. This helps with the effects humidity has on expanding and contracting of the spine. I prefer to thin out the spin a little making it more flexible then tying it all the way up the length of the spine holding it down flat on the shaft. Both ways work well and both are historically accurate its just preference.
I also use a little glue coating over the sinew or string on the front wrapping and back wrapping on both methods this helps with ware on the binding and holding the fletching in place. Hide glue, super glue or wood glue is what I use.
I use hide glue and water Buffalo horn on these bows I have also use cow horn mainly because of availability ( don’t boil cow horn to shape it or it may delaminate use direct heat and you should not have a problem) historically they have found composite bows (wood core with horn and sinew) made with thin elk horn and years ago I’ve seen one with caribou horn. I’ve seen the one with elk horn this year in a post not personally I just don’t have a source for elk horn suitable for this ( long straight spike horn if you know ware I can get some) or that is what I would use. Note composite bows (sinew horn; wood sinew; or wood, horn, sinew is not typically Comanche) Comanche bows were mainly self bows. They had a endless supply of Osage and could easily replace a bow at any time. So for them the need to take the time to build a composite bow was almost nonexistent when you could replace a self bow in hours.
Any bow that you feel comfortable with, keeping in mind in mounted archery your bow can’t have an arrow rest or sights you must shoot off the hand. Any length of bow is allowed but 56”and shorter is easier to shoot horse back,I prefer 52” and shorter. The cheapest way to go if you can’t make one yourself is to buy a cheep fiberglass one with the little plastic handle with the arrow rest built into the handle, from somewhere like Walmart and cut the plastic handle off. If you want to buy a little nicer bow I would get a Turkish Short a good one will start at around $350 and up. Any weight you are comfortable with will do. Draw length is personal preference according to your shooting style. I hope this helps. Thanks!
I make all of my self bows. sinew backed bows and horn bows. I would strongly suggest you make your own. It is satisfying beyond words to youse equipment you’ve made your self, at least it is for me. Anyone if capable of making a good self bow. There is a tone of visions on making Native American self bows.
They are self bows meaning that they are all wood. The two on the left are composite bows made out of wood horn and sinew. The sinew helps keep the back of the bow from expanding and breaking and the horn helps keep the belly from compressing and breaking, making the bow much more durable and very hard to break. Most people only shoot two or three dozen arrows a few days a weak under that type of use these self bows will last for many years maybe a life time. But when I’m complete or training horses I will very easily shoot around 600 arrows a day 5 day a week. That’s 12,000 shots a month vs most people 400. So these bows may be shot as many times in one week as most bows are shot in a year. Six months to a year for these two bows is the equivalent to a life time of shooting for most.
No you can add horn and sinew anytime as long as you can clean the wood. Keep in mind if you add horn you need to add sinew also (unless it already has sinew) or the wood won’t take the stress. 1/8 horn may add 30# or so to your bow.
@@horsesandarchery8798 I have never shoot a horse bow before so want to explore this Asiatic bow But I have some difficulties. Just wondering if you can extend some helps? What is best and proper way to draw an horse or Asiatic bow? I recently bought a PMZ Korean bow and have problems with how to draw this bow. I tried using 3 under and place the arrow on the left side of the bow shaft, just like the style how I shoot my long bow and other recurve. But when I try to place the arrow on the right side of the bow and use 3 under, the arrows consistently fly further away to the right. What is the best and proper way to shoot an Asiatic or Korean bow and why?
They all are different I really don’t pay a lot of attention to specific arrow weight or bow weight. Although I do test my bows from time to time (1 or 2 years) just to see what I’m shooting, I mainly just go by feel. Most of the ones I like shooting the best seem to be around 48” long and about 45#-50# at 20”-22” and will shoot a 375gr arrow about 150fps when drawn to a full 22”. (My draw length varies from 18”-23” depending on distance and target scenario). My accuracy seems to go down if the bow shoots faster than 155fps or slower than 138fps at 22” draw. Arrow weight or spine seems to matter less for me at 138fps to 157fps. That is were i like my bows to shoot. Although arrow speed can be drastically changed by tillering style and bow weight, for me these Comanche style bows seem to last the longest and are the most forgiving at this weight and length and shooting a 300gr-450gr total weight arrow.
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Very Interesting. I really like to see and hear about the different types of Indian Bows used by different Tribes. Good video, Thank You.
Come on man, you like all your bows. Lol I like your bows too. Look a lot like my bows. Your arrows as well. If you checked out any of my bows or arrows you'd be thinking man , are you sure these aren't mine? Lol I love what you've been doing with the horse archery. It wasn't long ago that folks would look at ya sideways if you said you could shoot bows like that accurately.
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Awesome video man I was wondering how do you keep the long 8inch fletchings from getting scraped up and messed up against the bow wen you pull it back and shoot it? Also wen your making the old fashion Comanche style arrows how do you keep the fletching’s against the shaft and not pulling up without any glue?
You can’t do a whole lot about wearing out the fletching that is why I prefer tying on instead of gluing , it makes the fletching easier to change and without damaging the arrows , I’ve even started tying on my carbon arrows but a narrow fletching (1/4 in or less) lasts a lot longer than a wider fletching (3/8 or more). If I am tying just the front and back I leave the spine of the fletching thicker after splitting just smoothing the rough edges off then youse the natural curve of the fletching to make the helical. This helps with the effects humidity has on expanding and contracting of the spine. I prefer to thin out the spin a little making it more flexible then tying it all the way up the length of the spine holding it down flat on the shaft. Both ways work well and both are historically accurate its just preference.
I also use a little glue coating over the sinew or string on the front wrapping and back wrapping on both methods this helps with ware on the binding and holding the fletching in place. Hide glue, super glue or wood glue is what I use.
Very instructive thank you. How can you fletch the carbon arrow?
Was that the Lars shooting method on horse? Arrows in right hand? Thanks
I live in Houston tx. Are there any gatherings or competitions near me?
What are the competitons called that you compete in? Thanks
nice bows
This is very cool! How did you attach the horn to the belly? Also why type of horn is you use? Thanks!
I use hide glue and water Buffalo horn on these bows I have also use cow horn mainly because of availability ( don’t boil cow horn to shape it or it may delaminate use direct heat and you should not have a problem) historically they have found composite bows (wood core with horn and sinew) made with thin elk horn and years ago I’ve seen one with caribou horn. I’ve seen the one with elk horn this year in a post not personally I just don’t have a source for elk horn suitable for this ( long straight spike horn if you know ware I can get some) or that is what I would use. Note composite bows (sinew horn; wood sinew; or wood, horn, sinew is not typically Comanche) Comanche bows were mainly self bows. They had a endless supply of Osage and could easily replace a bow at any time. So for them the need to take the time to build a composite bow was almost nonexistent when you could replace a self bow in hours.
How many pounds draw at 22 inches?
What is a good starter bow for mounted archery? Should I take into consideration my height and arm length as well as draw #? Thanks! Denise
Any bow that you feel comfortable with, keeping in mind in mounted archery your bow can’t have an arrow rest or sights you must shoot off the hand. Any length of bow is allowed but 56”and shorter is easier to shoot horse back,I prefer 52” and shorter. The cheapest way to go if you can’t make one yourself is to buy a cheep fiberglass one with the little plastic handle with the arrow rest built into the handle, from somewhere like Walmart and cut the plastic handle off. If you want to buy a little nicer bow I would get a Turkish Short a good one will start at around $350 and up. Any weight you are comfortable with will do. Draw length is personal preference according to your shooting style. I hope this helps. Thanks!
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Did you make those bows or buy it? I hope i can have one
I make all of my self bows. sinew backed bows and horn bows. I would strongly suggest you make your own. It is satisfying beyond words to youse equipment you’ve made your self, at least it is for me. Anyone if capable of making a good self bow. There is a tone of visions on making Native American self bows.
How much do you charge to make a bow?
Any reason that you mentioned the two longer bows on the right will only last a year or two?
They are self bows meaning that they are all wood. The two on the left are composite bows made out of wood horn and sinew. The sinew helps keep the back of the bow from expanding and breaking and the horn helps keep the belly from compressing and breaking, making the bow much more durable and very hard to break. Most people only shoot two or three dozen arrows a few days a weak under that type of use these self bows will last for many years maybe a life time. But when I’m complete or training horses I will very easily shoot around 600 arrows a day 5 day a week. That’s 12,000 shots a month vs most people 400. So these bows may be shot as many times in one week as most bows are shot in a year. Six months to a year for these two bows is the equivalent to a life time of shooting for most.
@@horsesandarchery8798 Is it too late for adding the horn now so these two bows can extend its life expectancy?
No you can add horn and sinew anytime as long as you can clean the wood. Keep in mind if you add horn you need to add sinew also (unless it already has sinew) or the wood won’t take the stress. 1/8 horn may add 30# or so to your bow.
@@horsesandarchery8798 Great knowledge and I learn a lot. Thanks to explain in such details.
@@horsesandarchery8798 I have never shoot a horse bow before so want to explore this Asiatic bow But I have some difficulties. Just wondering if you can extend some helps?
What is best and proper way to draw an horse or Asiatic bow?
I recently bought a PMZ Korean bow and have problems with how to draw this bow. I tried using 3 under and place the arrow on the left side of the bow shaft, just like the style how I shoot my long bow and other recurve. But when I try to place the arrow on the right side of the bow and use 3 under, the arrows consistently fly further away to the right.
What is the best and proper way to shoot an Asiatic or Korean bow and why?
What is bow poundage and arrow weight and how fast it shoots
They all are different I really don’t pay a lot of attention to specific arrow weight or bow weight. Although I do test my bows from time to time (1 or 2 years) just to see what I’m shooting, I mainly just go by feel. Most of the ones I like shooting the best seem to be around 48” long and about 45#-50# at 20”-22” and will shoot a 375gr arrow about 150fps when drawn to a full 22”. (My draw length varies from 18”-23” depending on distance and target scenario). My accuracy seems to go down if the bow shoots faster than 155fps or slower than 138fps at 22” draw. Arrow weight or spine seems to matter less for me at 138fps to 157fps. That is were i like my bows to shoot. Although arrow speed can be drastically changed by tillering style and bow weight, for me these Comanche style bows seem to last the longest and are the most forgiving at this weight and length and shooting a 300gr-450gr total weight arrow.