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Horses and Archery
Добавлен 8 фев 2015
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Repairing Self Bows “Compression Fractures”
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Repairing Self Bows “Compression Fractures”
Comanche Bow and Arrow Length I Prefer
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Comanche Bow and Arrow Length I Prefer
Practicing Comanche Style Horse Archery part 2
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Practicing Comanche Style Horse Archery part 2
Comanche Style Quiver from Deer to Finish part 3
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Comanche Style Quiver from Deer to Finish part 3
Comanche Style Quiver from deer to Finish Part 2
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Comanche Style Quiver from deer to Finish Part 2
Comanche Style Quiver From Deer to Finish Part 1
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Comanche Style Quiver From Deer to Finish Part 1
Easy cheep field points for wood arrows
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Easy cheep field points for wood arrows
Part 3 Building Competition Grade Dogwood Arrows
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Part 3 Building Competition Grade Dogwood Arrows
Part 2 Building Competition Grade Dogwood Arrows
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Part 2 Building Competition Grade Dogwood Arrows
Part 1 Buildings Competition Grade Dogwood Arrows
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Part 1 Buildings Competition Grade Dogwood Arrows
Extending the life of a natural string
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Extending the life of a natural string
Using Native American arrow quiver in Mounted Archery
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Using Native American arrow quiver in Mounted Archery
Better than banding material which I used to use, if you have a sawmill around where you are, go there and ask for some broken band saw blades and they will usually give you some... Those are a tiny bit thicker than the banding but only a small fraction... They are also a high carbon spring steel material... Also they hold up a lot better...
I’ve use them before and they make good knife blades also. Skill saw blades work well also. But I prefer the banding material because is easier to match the weight and balance of each individual broad-head. But the saw blades make a much tougher and longer lasting broad head especially if you like the longer style of head. Thanks for sharing!
Forgive me but isn't this the back of the bow, not the belly? It sure looks like compression fractures but the other side of the bow seems to look like a 'D' profile, so I'd assume that was the belly. Very unusual to have a D on the back of a bow isn't it? I'm only asking as I currently have an Engligh long bow with a significant compression split on the belly and it has split right through the belly laminate to the middle laminate. I have done a very similar fix to yours here. I didn't add in material, I just sanded flush, soaked in epoxy and then overlaid fiberglass cloth and then whipped with cord. Hopefully it does the job as my bow is 130lb @28" anmd I definitely don't want that blowing in my face. Thanks for the content. Always appreciated to see folks helping others fix their archery issues on the more traditional gear.
Ive looked for this info. For years In libraries. On the internet . Youre right. There is nothing written on it. I had given up looking for it. Just recently stumbled onto your videos. This is very valuable information. You are very generous & a very nice man to share this. A commanche probably wouldnt. Just like california vaqueros didnt share their knowledge. Only one wrote a book with that info. & he wants $300 for the book. Can i buy a quiver from you? My arrows are 21". I have a 46" commanche osage bow.
Is it possible to buy a quiver from you?
Currently starting quiver and bowcase project using cowhide (with hair), your videos have been very useful, and interesting, TY. 👍
Good stuff man 😎👍🔥💯🏹
I hope you don't get splinters from them carbon arrows. I've heard they can't get them out .
This is what I was wanting. Thank you!
What breeding is that paint? Do you sell those quivers?
I can't understand what you are saying
When I see you walk up to your horse & he automatically puts down his head so you can put the reigns over his head, I know I want to learn from you
What is your name? I lose your videos _ can't find them because I don't know your name
Use transcript
Have you ever been doing that half draw, quarter draw snap shooting and an anoint middle aged self appointed instructor tell you that's not how to shoot....
Yes. Then when we shoot and demonstrate the advantages of that style of shooting and why people have been using that style for thousands of years they realize how silly they actually sound. Not that modern styles are bad but modern sites are very lacking in less than perfect conditions.
I guess you may have read it, but your channel reminds me of a book "The Byerley Turk" about a horse and his keeper, who is an archer
Glad I found your channel. I cut a point from a barrel band this morning - ended up using a roto-zip (jumbo dremel) with a cutting wheel - I will try snips next time. Curious of your point weight and total arrow weight, and I guess typical bow poundage for when you hunt?
Very cool! I shoot a Korean traditional bow. I use carbon but really want some wood or bamboo arrows. I like the way they shoot, different. I would rather build when I can afford to. So if I can save money AND get better performance, I'm ALL IN! New sub! Thank you, sir!
Drawing a selfbow that is 48" to 20" isn't stressing the bow. I draw my white wood bows 1.25-2" under half its length. For a 48" bow I'd draw that easy 22". 4" under half its length is being nice on the bow.
Looking at the style of Lars Anderson in his video about Comanche style archery, my question is about shooting bison. It appears the bow was held lower and didn't use the line of sight as shown here for shooting higher targets. I understand you had to be very close to bison to shoot the arrow into the right spot, which would mean a downward angle with the bow. Any insight on how that was done on horseback? Thank you for making this great video.
Nothing changes from ground to horse back the bow will shoot exactly the same and the arrow will travel the same. They would normally shoot a bison through the liver so you only need to get close enough to shoot through the small of the back. Myself and lots of others world wide are able to shoot a 5” circle at a full gallop a 45 yards. Although not an easy shot archers do it all the time. A nine to seven meter shot in a 5” circle at a full gallop is extremely common. So no you don’t have to be extremely close and while shooting through the liver you are not hitting any bone upon entry just soft tissue so an arrow with a sharp broadhead shot through even a moderately heavy bow would be able to get deep penetration and in some cases a complete pass through. I hope this answer your question. FYI I normally shoot a 50#-60# bow of this type and quite often get complete passthroughs on deer and some hogs. I hope this helps!
nice arrows.
Thanks!
Very interesting! Thank you!
I know nothing of horse training, but I love animal training videos (and animal training). It is curious how the same principles seem to apply across so many species. I love the fact you stop when you get success, rather than risk souring the session by trying to repeat the success a bunch of times. I also love the fact you've spotted the previous, unintentional, conditioning that is unhelpful. It is so easy to train the wrong thing, and then get frustrated with an animal that is simply responding according to the conditioning that has been put in place. You did a great job of trying different options to get the animal to succeed. If I had the land, the time and the money, these videos would have me going to get a horse.
Thanks
Pretty awesome stuff man that’s funny I just finish this bow. It’s a Comanche inspired recurve. It’s 46 inches knock knock got multiple layers of sinew on the back and I covered it with a diamondback rattlesnakes game that’s got Osage tip overlays the bow itself is Ironwood he draws 40 pounds at 21 inches. It’s pretty sweet little bow you’re interested in something like that let me know or I’ll be posting it on eBay and probably on my Etsy shop Deadstreambows looks like you constructed your own. That’s awesome bought maybe your kids might like this or something I just figured I’d offer it up because you’re the only person I’ve seen doing this kind of stuff on video for the most part and your kids are doing it that’s awesome anyway stay safe man and keep up the tradition.
how many pounds of pull and at what draw length
How many pounds draw at 22 inches?
I agree with you 100 percent .
Hi, very intresting Chanel you have. I have no doubt that the eyewitnesses were telling the truth. The Comanches could well practice every day from childhood pretty moch . MVH Peter, sweden
Genius.. Well done
Very informative and specific material. Thank you. I think you may be right about the arrow fletching. Have you talked to any Comanches about this? Your words seem to make sense. Additionally, the fletchings of Comanche arrows appear to be relatively low, which may also be an adaptation for rapid shooting. They are more convenient to operate and are probably not as susceptible to destruction during this type of shooting as they would be if they were taller.
Some of the best instruction I have heard yet! I like the way you get away from the grid field archery attitudes as well as the super spiritual Japanese formality. You can’t criticize success. Thanks for showing different techniques. Sounds by you speech patterns and accent you probably come from a place and background similar to mine. I come from: “ If’n it ain’t broke don’t fix it.”
What are the competitons called that you compete in? Thanks
Ok🤝👍
Why you shooting on the right sight?
I shoot on both sides it just depends on what I’m doing. In this video I was building arrows to use in a horse archery competition. I can shoot fractions of a second faster on the left which allows me to get more arrow on target in a particular run. If I have more time to shoot and need more pin point accuracy like in ground archery I will shoot on the left hand side. That being said I’m only talking about .25 seconds in between shots and about one inch in grouping. Doesn’t seem like much but it makes a lot of difference in a competition.
Were the ancient people on metric or standard?
No they just eyeballed it. It’s possible for the human eye to pick up on a one hundredth of an inch difference so a person with good vision can make a matched set of barreled arrows very easily. I just gave measurements so a person with very little experience can make a good set of arrows the first time. The exact shape and size that will work best shot from each individual bow will come from experience and experimentation but I think the measurements here in this video is a good place to start.
That’s perfect 👍🏻
Great video. I'm n the process of making a osage orange Comanche bow. Let the stave cure for two years. Have made 75 arrows. I'm ready
sorry- i appreciate the effort, and i'm extremely interested in the topic, but the audio problem makes it absolutely impossible to follow the content. i assume, the reason is the constantly changing, but in general too big distance to the microphone. Maybe you could improve this? Thank you
I got to see a goose flock on a lake30 years ago,,there must have been a million ......
Makes sence,,,different tools for different jobs
I shoot ASL and I watched your video, I shot with my thumb up on my bow. For what ever reason I shoot more consistent. I was already shooting with my string hand thumb up because of my Scandinavian high cheek bone. So I am a thumbs up shooter 👍 thanks brother!
After I watched this, I know how your draw hand works. I even know there are so many ways to draw an arrow. Very instructional. Thanks for sharing the valuable experiences. Now I know why your arrows have at least 4 inches from the end of feather to the end of nocks.
Very good. Now I have learned the Khatra shooting and will practice on this. But your draw hand (right hand) is hard to see. I notice you do not use anything but your own finger. Other Asiatic archery use Thumb ring. So what is your method to draw bow string?
Idk why European people think that they are the smartest people on this planet. It is looking like they are the scourge of this planet. Instead of living in harmony with the earth they are trying to kill our planet and tell us that our best bet is to get to mars , we are only going to destroy that planet also
Yea, i dont think of them as backwards in any sense. Highly skilled in working with what was found in nature. From their surroundings. When it comes to europian goods, its pretty much what did in most nations of the time. Except nations like the Comanches who held on to the bow and arrows until the end of that period of history.
From dead center of your arrows, how far forward is your balance point from dead center?
I usually like it about 1” but that may change with application and shooting style.
@@horsesandarchery8798 thanks. That's what I've been doing as well. Since string is offset on bow because of nock style and shooting their style of shooting ,spine becomes not very important other than it don't bend too much. Much more important that arrows are close in length and balance. I.e. arrow travels up, then down rather than around the bow when shot. At least this is what I've found anyhow.
Yes and if you put pressure in your thumb while shooting (the pump should be slightly off center to the right if right handed) it will cause the bow to roll down and to the right eliminating the archers paradox even more. If your arrows are kicking up and down you may need to raise your knock or lower your grip.
Not much, it will very with each individual. For me the center of my thumb is about 2/3 to the right of center
Any reason that you mentioned the two longer bows on the right will only last a year or two?
They are self bows meaning that they are all wood. The two on the left are composite bows made out of wood horn and sinew. The sinew helps keep the back of the bow from expanding and breaking and the horn helps keep the belly from compressing and breaking, making the bow much more durable and very hard to break. Most people only shoot two or three dozen arrows a few days a weak under that type of use these self bows will last for many years maybe a life time. But when I’m complete or training horses I will very easily shoot around 600 arrows a day 5 day a week. That’s 12,000 shots a month vs most people 400. So these bows may be shot as many times in one week as most bows are shot in a year. Six months to a year for these two bows is the equivalent to a life time of shooting for most.
@@horsesandarchery8798 Is it too late for adding the horn now so these two bows can extend its life expectancy?
No you can add horn and sinew anytime as long as you can clean the wood. Keep in mind if you add horn you need to add sinew also (unless it already has sinew) or the wood won’t take the stress. 1/8 horn may add 30# or so to your bow.
@@horsesandarchery8798 Great knowledge and I learn a lot. Thanks to explain in such details.
@@horsesandarchery8798 I have never shoot a horse bow before so want to explore this Asiatic bow But I have some difficulties. Just wondering if you can extend some helps? What is best and proper way to draw an horse or Asiatic bow? I recently bought a PMZ Korean bow and have problems with how to draw this bow. I tried using 3 under and place the arrow on the left side of the bow shaft, just like the style how I shoot my long bow and other recurve. But when I try to place the arrow on the right side of the bow and use 3 under, the arrows consistently fly further away to the right. What is the best and proper way to shoot an Asiatic or Korean bow and why?
I live in Houston tx. Are there any gatherings or competitions near me?
Nice thanks.
nice bows
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