One of the more sensible reviews I have come across. All doubts that a regular buyer would have or should have, addressed most sensibly without unnecessary slang and yo language. Nice, smooth and too the point...fast. This is how reviews should be. Didnt even miss the actual ride video, so well structured. Cheers to you!
Great overview !! Thanks Vikrant for that. Two Question .. 1. How is the boot space in strong Hybrid? Do you think is it good enough for a Airport drop and pickup for a family? I saw it in the dealership.. but couldn’t guess on it bcz of huge crowd and rush!!. One of the Showroom exe said in strong hybrid its 260 lts . Did Maruti Mentioned anything? 2. Driver seating position I bit felt awkward as my head was touching the side of the frame. I am just 5ft 8 inches . How did you feel for your height?
Thanks Vikrant Sir. What's the point of launching a vehicle on 1st July and 20th July respectively for the Hyryder and GV when there isn't any real test review and no pricing yet after 50 days? What's your rough idea of the bootspace for the strong hybrid? Lastly if you could compare cabin space and bootspace vs Brezza. Thanks
The cars were not launched but unveiled on the mentioned dates. Unveioijgbthebcsrs and then opening bookings for them gives the car maker an idea about the sort of demand they can expect for the model and they can then plan their production and deliveries accordingly, instead of a burdening the dealers with surplus stock.
Very nice & informative review which will certainly help in decision making, thanks Can you give some inputs about the boot space of mild hybrid version? How is it compared to that of newly launched Brezza?
Very nice review, and good thing you mentioned about its rolling on corners. We will decide after watching your latest review after first drive experience.
Thanks much for the insights. Had a query on the issue up the incline with manual mild hybrid variant - 1) Did you have similar issue with the automatic mild hybrid and/or the strong hybrid on the incline? 2) Could activating Sports Mode in All Grip Manual assist on the steep incline? Be nice to know. Thanks in advance.
No issue with the automatic. And even with the manual its a function of the clutch bite point. Once you spend enough time driving the car, it should be easy to figure out.
Hi Sir, I got to know that headroom is worst in top most variants. Same problem will be there in Zeta variant too? Cas Zeta is without sunroof. Pls guide me to select the best variant sir.. I am looking for mild hybrid and budget is max 15l.
Sir, I am planning to buy Brezza ZXI + it costs 17.5 lakh in Bangalore. I want your suggestions shall I wait for Grand Vitara or go with Brezza. I think I will get basic model for grand vitara, what will be your suggestion.
Vikrant sir how was the cabin insulation in strong hybrid setup and at what speed the engine noise creeps in and at what speed the strong hybrid cruises relaxed??
Cabin insulation up to 100kmoh is very good. And if you don't get a on the accelerator hard but drive it with a light foot, it doesn't get noisy. It sinky choose I 120kmph does the wind noise become properly audible. However, if you get on the throttle hard then it's noisy even at 30kmph because the 1.5, 3cyl, isn't exactly a quiet engine.
Wonderful detailed Review. liked the way its explained though team did not had real video to put up..!! One question to ask, how did you feel about the Build Quality of the Car in Real world..
Build quality is good. It matches that of the creta and seltos, if not better. Only a few bits and pieces feel cheap, but otherwise it's pretty well put together. .
I am comparing mild hybrid vitara to 1.5 diesel creta to buy Please suggest a car for city and mountain roads , considering the future of Diesel cars in India
Very nice and crisp video. I visited showroom to see this car. Overall cabin from inside looks compact and specially head room and leg space because of rear A/C vent. Can you comment if you experienced the same?
We are driving the Grand Vitara very soon and we will be able to answer this question better after that. Though we don't expect it to be too different to the Hyryder strong-hybrid variant - you can see the relevant section of the review here: ruclips.net/video/iWqvcGnTeXU/видео.html
Its my first time on your chameel owesome explanations only my questions is it 1.5 ltr mild hybrid engine feel even less power and punchy then breeza .?? Xl6 zeta have more specification in 11.29 ex shoeroom so it may be less than 10.5 lkh i guess
Very good summary - please give some more explanation on Strong Hybrid engine - is is similar to how the Honda HEv city or different. Also this does not have electronic hand brake and light colour upholstery
Yes, the first functioning is the same as the City - motor power, engine power, or a combo of both power the car depending on the situation and how heavy or light you are on the throttle.
Please review AWD. We would like to know how it feels to drive in rain, off-road and mud area. Will it handle mild off roading etc. Thanks for your review.
Sir, i am thinking of booking strong hybrid, but being a 3cylinder engine and with mild acceleration whether the engine noise is heard inside the cabin..or the insulation is too good to be heard even outside. Also what about the vibrations sir.
No real vibrations. Insulation is good. It's only when you drive it hard that the eCVT keeps the engine at a high rpm for extended period of time to extract the best possible acceleration. And it is then does the car get noisy. Otherwise, it's a quiet performer.
The "S" in SUV stands for "Sports." This is just a spruced up Ertiga that probably has better suspension from the ladder-frame and that mild AWD. It will affect sales of Creta and Seltos in the same way as the Ciaz does to the City and Verna (it will bite off maybe 20% of the sales is all).
Did the vehicle you tested have UV cut/green glass. They are not in the GV specs put out though Hyryder specs mention them . Any indications that the final production vehicles may have some tweaks.
@@vikrantsingh6916 Really hope so. Not getting UV cut glass in a prospective flagship vehicle with the kind of pricing being floated around would be unforgivable.
The top models with panaromic sunroof will surely be a problem for little tall people..i saw the car at the dealership. Rear seat roof clearance is really a fail. Also the interiors are not as competitive as seltos. It lacks that luxury. Maruti has reached this level it's commendable as far as their standards ..but where they reach from here is what will define them. It's a good 1st attempt but lacking a lot still..
Great Calm review. I am disappointed that this is not a replacement of the old Grand Vitara. True Offroader with epic power. This is just another shopping SUV. Fingers crossed on an off road hybrid version.
Understandably, the automatic is slower than the manual SH when used in the auto mode. How much is the difference between the MT and AT when you use paddle shifters? Do the accn. times then approach that of the manual? Asking you this for overtake maneuvers or stoplight takeoffs.
When are you reviewing Toyota Hyryder? Can’t wait to see how it compares with its rival. I am hoping Toyota must’ve taken care of freeway drivability. Looking forward to seeing a review for Toyota as well.
Booked Grand Vitara Sigma Variant!! Value for money proposition!! 9.5 lakhs ex-showroom steel deal. Only Music System and Camera I will install from outside or showroom itself.
Thanks for the review. 👌💯 I have few questions for you. Does the manual smart hybrid version feel slow and sluggish? Or underpowered? Is it capable of handling steep slopes easily? What about the body role?
Body roll is there, but not pronounced. And like we said in the video, it's stable, but it does I liked to pushed hard. As for it feeling sluggish, it's not fast if that's what you are asking. But no, it doesn't feel slow or sluggish either. And yes We would have liked a clearer bite point forthe clutch to make setting off on an incline better.
I think the downside is the 3 cy engine. its more stress on the engine with 3 cy rather than 4. hence its a let down in that matter, i'd imagine that engine is going to give some trouble in the long run. same with the vw polo 3cy engines which was a failure.
The 3-cylinder engine is always assisted by the electric motor in the hybrid variant, so it is not as stressed as it would have been in a standalone setup.
Like I said, it's not a car that you will enjoy of you want to drive quickly or with enthusiasm. So the n that sense, yes, you do feel it could do with more performance. But for everyday driving or even doing 120kmph on the highway when you don't rush it, it feels fine. No real challenge there.
Too early to say. Till the time we actually drive the Vitara in the real world, do your fuel and performance testing, and interior measurements, we can't honestly tell you which one would make for a better buy.
Will it come with a 6 seater option? What would be the difference between the all new Breeza and this all new GV? Both seem to have same engine. Hence a 6 seater option would be great for a 3 generation family
On the road, it feels like a regular 2WD. And we didn't try it out on any slippery surfacesI order to feel how the awd kicks in. We will try that early next month when we drive the car again.
Can I expect the hard-core suv with 7 seat from maruti suzuki under feel good futures under 10 lakhs the common man budget rather than rental triber turbo cvt
Ive been driving my Grnad Vitara from 2017 and ws waitig for something new to mak ethe swap..but Maruti killed the real sense of a 4x4 when they moved from the original platform to the hybrid...sadly i mnot having a Suzuki anymore...
16 sec to 0 to 100 in 2022 from nearly 20L suv cannot be justified..guy who invest 20L doesn't really care about 10 per drop in mileage for increased performance
If you have any queries which we missed in the video, comment below!
One of the more sensible reviews I have come across. All doubts that a regular buyer would have or should have, addressed most sensibly without unnecessary slang and yo language. Nice, smooth and too the point...fast. This is how reviews should be. Didnt even miss the actual ride video, so well structured. Cheers to you!
If I had to do Engineering all over again, I would definitely love to have Vikrant as my professor. Won't be bunking his classes for anything.
Thanks for that Siddharth!
+1
Yaa, he explains like best ...but I'm not interested in doing engineering again🙂🙂😂
@@vikrantsingh6916 Indeed sir. It's a pleasure to watch your videos, especially the lucid manner in which you explain things....
loved the calmness!
Thanks Sarthak!
What about the cabin noise, engine vibrations, road and wind noise, overall engine refinement???
Vikrant can be a brand ambassador for Byjus , USTRAA & GLENFIDDICH simultaneously 😎
hahaha. thanks for that Mrinal.
what is the main difference between mild hybrid and strong hybrid can we go for mild hybrid if this is the main criteria
This channel is a class apart ...... very well explained ....👍
Thank you!
Great overview !! Thanks Vikrant for that. Two Question .. 1. How is the boot space in strong Hybrid? Do you think is it good enough for a Airport drop and pickup for a family? I saw it in the dealership.. but couldn’t guess on it bcz of huge crowd and rush!!. One of the Showroom exe said in strong hybrid its 260 lts . Did Maruti Mentioned anything? 2. Driver seating position I bit felt awkward as my head was touching the side of the frame. I am just 5ft 8 inches . How did you feel for your height?
interested to know
What is the ground clearance pls?
Classy review as usual !
Thank you Jimmy!
Nice, liked the part about handling and damper and how they react under various loading conditions
Thanks Dasharath.
Thanks Vikrant Sir. What's the point of launching a vehicle on 1st July and 20th July respectively for the Hyryder and GV when there isn't any real test review and no pricing yet after 50 days? What's your rough idea of the bootspace for the strong hybrid? Lastly if you could compare cabin space and bootspace vs Brezza. Thanks
The cars were not launched but unveiled on the mentioned dates. Unveioijgbthebcsrs and then opening bookings for them gives the car maker an idea about the sort of demand they can expect for the model and they can then plan their production and deliveries accordingly, instead of a burdening the dealers with surplus stock.
Very nice & informative review which will certainly help in decision making, thanks
Can you give some inputs about the boot space of mild hybrid version? How is it compared to that of newly launched Brezza?
Very nice review, and good thing you mentioned about its rolling on corners. We will decide after watching your latest review after first drive experience.
Review will be live on the 28th of August, 12PM. Stay tuned!
Thanks much for the insights. Had a query on the issue up the incline with manual mild hybrid variant -
1) Did you have similar issue with the automatic mild hybrid and/or the strong hybrid on the incline?
2) Could activating Sports Mode in All Grip Manual assist on the steep incline?
Be nice to know. Thanks in advance.
No issue with the automatic. And even with the manual its a function of the clutch bite point. Once you spend enough time driving the car, it should be easy to figure out.
Great content!!What is the NCAP rating?
Very nice, detailed and insightful review. Eagerly looking forward to the real world test drive and review.
Thanks Sanketh.
Hi Sir, I got to know that headroom is worst in top most variants. Same problem will be there in Zeta variant too? Cas Zeta is without sunroof. Pls guide me to select the best variant sir.. I am looking for mild hybrid and budget is max 15l.
Variant without sunroof should not have an issue. And even for variants with sunroof, only if you are over six feet you might face an issue.
@@vikrantsingh6916 thank you for your reply Sir.
Seems honest review not skewed toward the manufacturer
Thanks Sanjiv.
unfortunate that it has got just 128k subscribers ,by far the most professional presentation.
Please share the video and the channel to help us grow. Thank You!
Thanks for the review. If its 12 to 20 lakhs , is it worth to book that too for a non tested vehicle, no NCAP rating etc. Please suggest.
GNCAP will be four stars at least given it shares it's platform with the Brezza. And yes, it is worth booking. It's quite well sorted as a family car.
Sir, I am planning to buy Brezza ZXI + it costs 17.5 lakh in Bangalore.
I want your suggestions shall I wait for Grand Vitara or go with Brezza.
I think I will get basic model for grand vitara, what will be your suggestion.
Nice Review Vikrant Sir...Is it comfortable (shoulder room) for 3 medium sized adults in 2nd Row as compared with Creta and Carens?
Vikrant sir how was the cabin insulation in strong hybrid setup and at what speed the engine noise creeps in and at what speed the strong hybrid cruises relaxed??
Cabin insulation up to 100kmoh is very good. And if you don't get a on the accelerator hard but drive it with a light foot, it doesn't get noisy. It sinky choose I 120kmph does the wind noise become properly audible. However, if you get on the throttle hard then it's noisy even at 30kmph because the 1.5, 3cyl, isn't exactly a quiet engine.
Wonderful detailed Review. liked the way its explained though team did not had real video to put up..!! One question to ask, how did you feel about the Build Quality of the Car in Real world..
Build quality is good. It matches that of the creta and seltos, if not better. Only a few bits and pieces feel cheap, but otherwise it's pretty well put together. .
@@vikrantsingh6916 Thank you so much your response.
I am comparing mild hybrid vitara to 1.5 diesel creta to buy
Please suggest a car for city and mountain roads , considering the future of Diesel cars in India
Very nice and crisp video. I visited showroom to see this car. Overall cabin from inside looks compact and specially head room and leg space because of rear A/C vent. Can you comment if you experienced the same?
We are driving the Grand Vitara very soon and we will be able to answer this question better after that. Though we don't expect it to be too different to the Hyryder strong-hybrid variant - you can see the relevant section of the review here: ruclips.net/video/iWqvcGnTeXU/видео.html
Sir, I'm planning buy Creta. Would you suggest waiting for Grand Vitara to launch?
Its my first time on your chameel owesome explanations only my questions is it 1.5 ltr mild hybrid engine feel even less power and punchy then breeza .?? Xl6 zeta have more specification in 11.29 ex shoeroom so it may be less than 10.5 lkh i guess
I'm looking forward for Toyota Hyrider "S" variant with strong hybrid should I consider it ?
How is the pickup of a strong hybrid compared to creata or seltos diesel , is less or very less or more
Good job Very clearly explained. But expected price 12 lakh to 20 lakh? I thought it was 9.5 lakh to 18 lakh...
It could be cheaper like you are suggesting. But 12-20 are the indications we have received.
Very nice and complete informative car review done
Very good summary - please give some more explanation on Strong Hybrid engine - is is similar to how the Honda HEv city or different. Also this does not have electronic hand brake and light colour upholstery
Yes, the first functioning is the same as the City - motor power, engine power, or a combo of both power the car depending on the situation and how heavy or light you are on the throttle.
boot space and ground clearance in strong hybrid version ?
Please review AWD. We would like to know how it feels to drive in rain, off-road and mud area. Will it handle mild off roading etc. Thanks for your review.
With no fog lamps and projector LED headlamps will this not be a problem in foggy conditions ?
Thanks, clean review, Road, wind noise at high speed, cabin silence, sound insulation
The car is pretty quiet till 100kmph. Post this one can hear a bit of wind noise seeping into the cabin. But it's not loud.
@@vikrantsingh6916 Thanks Vikrant, is either of these engine by any chance E20 compatible!
Sir, i am thinking of booking strong hybrid, but being a 3cylinder engine and with mild acceleration whether the engine noise is heard inside the cabin..or the insulation is too good to be heard even outside. Also what about the vibrations sir.
No real vibrations. Insulation is good. It's only when you drive it hard that the eCVT keeps the engine at a high rpm for extended period of time to extract the best possible acceleration. And it is then does the car get noisy. Otherwise, it's a quiet performer.
@@vikrantsingh6916 Thank you sir. So one more doubt is that at high rpm the car gets noisy even inside the cabin sir?
The "S" in SUV stands for "Sports."
This is just a spruced up Ertiga that probably has better suspension from the ladder-frame and that mild AWD. It will affect sales of Creta and Seltos in the same way as the Ciaz does to the City and Verna (it will bite off maybe 20% of the sales is all).
What would be maintenance cost of the strong hybrid variant will it go up compared to ICE engine only car or stay same as them ?
Shouldnt be very different when it comes to daily running costs and regular maintenance, besides the advantage of better fuel efficiency.
@vikrant Please review VW Virtus 1.0Litre TSI . We are waiting for it.
Video coming soon... with a twist! Stay tuned
Did the vehicle you tested have UV cut/green glass.
They are not in the GV specs put out though Hyryder specs mention them .
Any indications that the final production vehicles may have some tweaks.
Tweaks in the final production version are likely, yes. But not significant ones. And yes I think the GV will get tinted glass.
Alpha definitely has UV cut glasses,considering all variants of Hyryder get it. Atleast Zeta and Alpha should get UV cut glasses.
@@vikrantsingh6916 Really hope so.
Not getting UV cut glass in a prospective flagship vehicle with the kind of pricing being floated around would be unforgivable.
Toyota hyryder ke price kab ayege..koi sahi nhi bta rha... official price kb ayega
End of the month tak aana chaiye.
Any updates on the launch date and pricing ?
Vikrant ji, another excellent, to the point review.
Thanks Deepak.
The top models with panaromic sunroof will surely be a problem for little tall people..i saw the car at the dealership. Rear seat roof clearance is really a fail. Also the interiors are not as competitive as seltos. It lacks that luxury. Maruti has reached this level it's commendable as far as their standards ..but where they reach from here is what will define them. It's a good 1st attempt but lacking a lot still..
Great Calm review. I am disappointed that this is not a replacement of the old Grand Vitara. True Offroader with epic power. This is just another shopping SUV. Fingers crossed on an off road hybrid version.
I would like to see the review of Scorpio -N by you
Sure Gaurav. Will try and do something around it.
Thinking to book this car delta version. The car looks good in paper. Just waiting for prices to come out. Good review though. ❤️
Thank you!
Sir...
Can we use the boot and rear seat folded to make a room for placing a camper bed in the toyota or grand vitara strong hybrid ....??
I dont think so. The boot is raised to accommodate batteries compared to the smart hybrid versions.
Understandably, the automatic is slower than the manual SH when used in the auto mode. How much is the difference between the MT and AT when you use paddle shifters? Do the accn. times then approach that of the manual? Asking you this for overtake maneuvers or stoplight takeoffs.
Sorry, I meant the Mild Hybrid version.
Is Grand vitara will reach 5 star in global nacp ?
Four stars for sure. Five stars, maybe.
When are you reviewing Toyota Hyryder? Can’t wait to see how it compares with its rival. I am hoping Toyota must’ve taken care of freeway drivability. Looking forward to seeing a review for Toyota as well.
Review will be live on the 28th of August, 12PM. Stay tuned!
Thats amazing car, thats will have wide market if have 7 seater variant...
Booked Grand Vitara Sigma Variant!! Value for money proposition!! 9.5 lakhs ex-showroom steel deal. Only Music System and Camera I will install from outside or showroom itself.
Congratulations.
@@vikrantsingh6916 thanks for your explanation. Next level 👌👌
Thanks for the review. 👌💯 I have few questions for you.
Does the manual smart hybrid version feel slow and sluggish? Or underpowered?
Is it capable of handling steep slopes easily?
What about the body role?
Body roll*
Body roll is there, but not pronounced. And like we said in the video, it's stable, but it does I liked to pushed hard. As for it feeling sluggish, it's not fast if that's what you are asking. But no, it doesn't feel slow or sluggish either. And yes We would have liked a clearer bite point forthe clutch to make setting off on an incline better.
@@vikrantsingh6916 Thank you 😊
@@vikrantsingh6916 by slow and sluggish I meant will it struggle to overtake other vehicles on highway or city.
Interested in Allgrip, plz bring the detailed drive review of all drive modes asap 🤗
I got to view a well balanced review of a car, after a pretty long time! Thank you.
you are welcome Venu.
if possible
Please make a video on Sigma model
Is it have cooled glove box, plz reply
No, the glove box is not cooled. There is a handy light inside it though, on all variants except the base Sigma.
I think the downside is the 3 cy engine. its more stress on the engine with 3 cy rather than 4. hence its a let down in that matter, i'd imagine that engine is going to give some trouble in the long run. same with the vw polo 3cy engines which was a failure.
The 3-cylinder engine is always assisted by the electric motor in the hybrid variant, so it is not as stressed as it would have been in a standalone setup.
Is strong hybrid variant a good choice for highway rides?
yes, its fine on the highway. though its better suited for city driving.
Looks like it’s under powered ! How you felt while driving ?
Like I said, it's not a car that you will enjoy of you want to drive quickly or with enthusiasm. So the n that sense, yes, you do feel it could do with more performance. But for everyday driving or even doing 120kmph on the highway when you don't rush it, it feels fine. No real challenge there.
@@vikrantsingh6916 Is strong hybrid underpowered like the mild hybrid? Can we expect 11-12 sec 0-100 for strong hybrid?
Hey Vikrant.Seltos HtX AT petrol or Grand Vitara AT?Is it worth waiting for?
Too early to say. Till the time we actually drive the Vitara in the real world, do your fuel and performance testing, and interior measurements, we can't honestly tell you which one would make for a better buy.
@@vikrantsingh6916 When is the review coming?Sep 1st week?
Increse length up to 4735mm towards back
7-speed auto transmission with paddle shift
anyupdate on Ncap rating ?
how about the suspension , stiffer or soft?
more soft than stiff for sure.
@@vikrantsingh6916 so hope cornering will have more body roll inside cabin.
Will it come with a 6 seater option?
What would be the difference between the all new Breeza and this all new GV? Both seem to have same engine. Hence a 6 seater option would be great for a 3 generation family
For 6 seater, they have the xl6 in the same segment..
Maybe higher segment 7 seater suv possible in future as per reports
No three row seating on this one. This will remain a five seater.
6 seater with that engine, it would be a complete joke.
@@gcscr then XL6 also should be a joke... They both seem to have similar engine
Does the price list got released?
No yet. Early next month
@@vikrantsingh6916okay.
Are components same as Vitara allgrip sold abroad?
No. This is a different car. But the all grip functioning is nearly the same.
How about the Sunroof curtain, it seems the cabin will get more bright during day.
It didn't seem to be an issue even through the afternoon.
How do you compare the gv hybrid vs Honda city hybrid...
Same technology. Similar functioning. But of course different drive feel.
@@vikrantsingh6916 which among the two you would rate as a better driving machine ?
How was the fuel efficiency??
We only drove it inside the R&D centre. Didn't do any fuel run. Will donone once we get the car next month.
How does the AWD feel like while driving?
On the road, it feels like a regular 2WD. And we didn't try it out on any slippery surfacesI order to feel how the awd kicks in. We will try that early next month when we drive the car again.
*is this uk & europian s cross modified to india and renamed it vitaara??*
No. Not the same platform
Same brezza engine & Base model cant be so much costly ..
Pls update this car in your app
Can I expect the hard-core suv with 7 seat from maruti suzuki under feel good futures under 10 lakhs the common man budget rather than rental triber turbo cvt
Nope. That isn't happening any time soon.
price n trims ??
The price and trim details will be revealed early next month.
Maruti and Toyota have seriously been under heavy intoxication while making the variants
Why don’t they include a powerful turbo petrol as well as diesel.
It's a cost thing. And what majority of consumers are demanding and willing to pay for.
Any idea of Ground clearance and boot space in Smart Hybrid
No, not yet.
Is the engine E20 compatible??
Not sure. Didn't ask. But I think it should be.
Ive been driving my Grnad Vitara from 2017 and ws waitig for something new to mak ethe swap..but Maruti killed the real sense of a 4x4 when they moved from the original platform to the hybrid...sadly i mnot having a Suzuki anymore...
Would ask you to try out the new 4x4 system once before dismissing the car
Panoramic sunroof is a bad idea in a hot and sunny country like India.
16 sec to 0 to 100 in 2022 from nearly 20L suv cannot be justified..guy who invest 20L doesn't really care about 10 per drop in mileage for increased performance
Not everyone thinks the same
@@CarWale exactly this is what i think my opinion not everyone's
It should have been a plug in as on daily basis people drive around 30-35 kms for office purposes, great miss from maruti toyota
Plug-in hybrids are expensive. And don't make a business case at this price point.
It's a good joke from Maruti , using hatchback engine in a SUV , things can't get worse than this !!!
Its not hatch back engine waise its was used in s cross same segment engine but surely its underpowrred no doubt
@@physicsabhinav1082 that indeed is embedded in my sarcasm!!!