Suzuki is a better value proposition. Toyota version only make sense if you are nowhere near a Suzuki dealer. Suzuki is less of a theft/hijack risk and insurance is more than likely cheaper too.
@91mrbrooks it's not about absolute speed, rather it's about how well it gathers speed for lane changes, uphill driving and overtaking. For context, a VW Polo 1.6i is plenty fast enough but a Nissan Juke CVT isn't - the polo isn't a GTI.
All these countless Toyota rebadges prove that Toyota's success means nothing about how good their products actually are. It just means people buy something that says "Toyota" on it without even considering that the competition might be better.
In Europe Toyota defends itself on the market actually only because of the best hybrid powertrains. Except for that, these cars are horribly outdated inside, not-user-friendly, covered with cheap paint, with naked plastic in the boot, overpriced + aggresive marketing makes it even more disgusting. Without hybrid powertrain, truly can't understand what makes people buy this corporate crap overseas.
Agreed. This is absolutely not a quality product. You’re doing yourself a disservice parting with your hard earned money on this without at least looking at the used market or competitors at the same price point (if you desperately want a brand new car)
@@Geebvs I agree that in cases where there is rebadging it is generally better to get the Suzuki because it often offers more for a lower price and I also agree that Toyota is kind of overpriced, but they are good cars though. They're reliable and easier to fix than German cars and they are user-friendly I can't think of anything that is not user-friendly about Toyota and I've never known their paint to be bad we've had a Toyota Camry for almost 20 years now and the paint still looks good despite my dad neglecting that car quite badly over the years.
Absolutely loved this review! The editor does an amazing job with the videos and the music 📹. I'd go for the Suzuki Grand Vitara, it's much more premium. Please review the new Toyota Vitz... 🙏 and the new Toyota GR Supra Manual when it comes for test. I'm dying for that video review so much 🤌😭
@@maplez470 Glx comes with leather seats, sunroof, wireless charging (useless when your phone is not compatible with wireless charging) , 360° camera and head up display. All this comes with a price tag of +-R60000
Love Ashley's reviews. He uses a language level that sounds like two car guys talking to each other, no marketing talk. Great review. Weirdly this time round, I like both the Suzuki and Toyota's styling.. Can't decide between them on looks.
Both companies are winning in this partnership, not just in this market but worldwide. While it would be good if you got the Suzuki directly youre still getting into a Suzuki with this car on the front end.
Nope, it just shows the ignorance of people that a blindly brand loyal. Suzuki is winning either way. Brand loyalists are losing on warranty/service plan
You gave an amazing review 👏 you just managed to speak about 2 cars so good that after the video the memory of both cars did not fade. You gave both a fair chance of time coverage and a clear side by side contrast, allowing every car to stand out and show case what it has got. I know you ate an incredible driver, but I didn't know you can elaborate with finest detail. Well done and thanks for this review. You aced it. Both car brands will be proud 👏
The fact there is alot of swifts and starlets and urban cruisers prove that suzuki is still the deal. Whether its a toyota suzuki or the original, Middle class owners cannot afford home loans let alone expensive cars. This is a growing sevement and will continue to grow.
come on suzuki put the 1.4 turbo engine from previous gen that will greatly improve the fuel economy. i would take the Suzuki if I was looking in this segment.
@@pieterrossouw8596 A few reasons because there is a premium to getting the Cross (the top end Grand Vitara has better specs in general and is similarly prices to the entry level Cross we got). It came down to the Cross feeling more solid, more planted and the engine having a bit more grunt (the CVT blunts that a bit though). We used to have a 2013 Qashqai 1.6 and that had more power than the Urban Cruiser/Grand Vitara. I think they are great options in town but for my while she commutes between Cape Town and Stellenbosch and the 1.5 is an OK engine but honestly not enough. Basically we dropped bells and whistles for better ride and what feels to be a more solid package. Funny enough I noticed the tyres, Cross comes with Bridgestones and the UC those Apollo ones.
Man that Vitara is a performance step down from the 2006-2011 models. The 2.7/3.2 V6 Grand Vitaras are so damn hardcore. I’ve had my 2.7 for 16 years now, never want to drive another car ever again.
GREAT JOB ! GREAT comparrison ! The Suzuki for me any day ! Although, even the Suzuki here is over priced looking at the under powered baby "Brezza" - engine...😮 it got.. I truly DON'T understand what that is about ??!! Not making any sense at all. I think both these models (Toy & Suzi) will not sell well because of this. Better value in abundance elsewhere 😉 Great work, as always 👍✨
@@DavetheCarGuy Now that is EXACTLY CORRECT ! It is in fact literally only the "facelift Brezza" - 100% correct 👍! I still like the Actual Vitara (4×4) much more, even in the eighing format today 👍✨ Best 👍✨
@@DavetheCarGuy this car is 2 segments up in terms of size and features to the Brezza, that isnt facelift territory. It has a slightly different engine and the gearbox is the same at the lower trims. Thats where the similarities end, heck it even has more boot space.
Keep the price down. A lot of spec has been omitted from the Cruiser over the Vitara for this reason, otherwise the pricing would have clashed with the Corolla Cross.
@@gazg00 Like really, ommitting a rear windscreen wiper? How costly can that be? It is standard spec on the cheapest of cars. Even a Renault Kwid has one.
@@matthysdb true........but when you manufacture thousands of cars, it adds up as a extra cost to the manufacturer. It sounds crazy, but that's how it is.
I like the Grand Vitara Hybrid Allgrip. it makes economic sense, I will buy it and keep it forever. With this car, I can travel anywhere urban and off-road.
I think you were being very kind regarding the performance from the 1,5 engine. The power output is abysmal, especially up here Joburg where you lose 18% of available power at the coast. This means you have to constantly be changing gears to keep up with traffic on the freeways as 137nm torque is simply puny. It's a great car (I tested the Suzuki) , well packaged and for me the best looking in its segment but it needs an engine that matches the rest of the car. Suzuki has a brilliant 1 l turbo....
We took the grand Vitara to Kruger Park last month. We were loaded up to full capacity. Car had sufficient power, overtaking wasn’t an issue. Drove on cruise control most of the way and averaged 16.5km/l
@@neilwza I suppose it all depends on your expectations. For the entry models it's a lot of car for the money. But I won't be paying for the top of range model with that engine.
On behalf of those who, like me, adore manual transmissions I appreciate Suzuki's consideration of user experience. Personally, I would choose the Vitara. 😅
I test drove the previous Gen with the 4 speed auto. In that smaller car it was dangerously slow. I can't imagine in this larger car. I'd rather look at turbo cars from Chery and Haval at this price.
The Toyota? I cant fault you for looking at the Chineese competition. The only downside is the fuel economy isnt as good as the Suzuki/Toyota because those cars are heavier.
@@mindfreeze0838 Both yes. I couldn't believe that when I accelerated it's like nothing was happening. The needle barely moved from the speed but the noise went up.
Turbo is only really needed when overtaking at High Speeds ,unless you are a Formula 1 driver and Speed hungry ,this cars are not SLOW at all. TURBO cars also DO NOT last longer the Natural aspirated Engine Cars!!!.
@@knowledgembeuserua3407 No it isn't. Even when driving city speeds, it is dangerous. Also, many south Africans drive these cars on the highway and between provinces. Even at 80kph it struggles which will make overtaking very dangerous. It was slow with 2 people in the car. I can't imagine it loaded with passengers and their luggage. They can offer South Africans more but refuse to and give us junk engines instead because we accept it. The Chinese cars cost the same or less and are turbo charged and less hazardous. And turbo engines can last as long. If you think they don't last long, then tell that to the million km taxis in Europe with European turbo engines.
Cabin noise and suspension stiffness is quite high on my list of things. I suppose I would need to test drive both to check cabin noise. Isnt there a different way that you can guys can measure cabin noise? Like with a sound meter, cause my ears arent the same as yours (lol) 😁
In India, Toyota Urban Cruiser is a rebadged version of Maruti Suzuki Brezza. The Brezza is a different league altogether compared to the Suzuki Grand Vitara in that it’s a smaller car however both the cars share the global C platform.
Dont know why Toyota SA spec their cars so poorly. If you look at Toyotas overseas they have such amazing features, oh, and a sunroof 🥲😂😂which Toyota SA don't do for some reason. Amazing how much difference a badge makes...
@@mindfreeze0838 My mother has the Corolla Cross, sure it has some nice features, but if you look at a review of the Corolla Cross in Australia you'll be mind blown with what it comes with😂
Im thinking to buy the Toyota, but i live i hot area, reach in the summer around 50 degrees with humidity. Is the airconditing working fine with this weather?? Please i want feed back
It's basically the same vehicle. Toyota decided downgrade it (as they usually do). I actually don't think Toyota is worried about the Chinese products which are throwing in all the features with no extras to pay for. 🤔
Urban Cruiser is the equivalent of the Suzuki Brezza, not the Grand Vitara which is actually a higher model. So while it was a good video, not really a great comparison.
7.1L/100km isn't that bad My 2006 Toyota Avanza (daihatsu engine) was a 1.3, and that managed 7.8L/100km at best. So Toyota now has 6 Suzukis in its line up???
Why does the dealer network matter? If something goes wrong and there's only a Toyota dealership, Toyota can fix it since it's the same car and vice versa.
@@Deckard717 I'm saying if something goes majorly wrong. Which it won't. I'm sure they have considered that and have a deal in the case where something major does goes wrong. The parts are the same anyway.
A turbo would be nice but turbo engines are not reliable. This 1.5L engine uses lighter pistons , low tension rings and requires a very light oil specification which is 0w-16. Add a turbo to that and you'll end up with excessive oil consumption and a dead engine in no time. This is the plague of the decade. I am glad there are still naturally aspirated engines available out there and with a reliable manual transmission. I am definitely getting one of these before they are no more made. I am going with the Suzuki Grand Vitara because I find it better looking and more robust inside and out, and cheaper.
The piston and connecting rods are different part numbers on Turbo. That means they are using strengthened components. This is not your typical home-boi turbo swap .
The two cars are not equivalent. Toyota doesn't have an Urban Cruiser at the same trim level. To compare prices is moot. The XR is more like a Suzuki GL automatic. They should have compared those rather. You'll see that the Suzuki is actually R10 000 cheaper, while still offering more features and a better warranty and service plan.
R50 000, is R50 000. Less Maintenance when you have the Auto-Box. Little Inch here and a Bootlight there.. Not sure if this Toyota/Suzuki Twins are Good for the Market. As Ash mentioned, Dealer Network with Toyota, Service Levels vs Suzuki, normally part of a Multi-Franchise Circus Setup. The Extra Warranty is not a Deal-Breaker, as these cars are not Problamatic ( if it was German, it would be another story ). a Extra Year or Two Extension on Service Plan for Toyota, will cost you less than R20/30 000.
I love both these cars, but I feel its actually overpriced. Why would one go for these if you can get an automatic Toyota Cross Xi for R350k. The cross is a bigger car and more powerful. What am I missing?
The Urban Cruiser is the Toyota equivalent of the Suzuki Brezza, not the Grand Vitara, which is a different model. Unfortunately the new Brezza won't be coming to SA, or so I'm told.
Ah, eish, I don't know. 1.5L, naturally aspirated in such a large(ish) car... I have a Ciaz, same engine, and I have to time my overtakes carefully. I love Suzuji cars, but I just don't know about this one.
Great SUV for south african family only thing just a big suv 1.4 77 kilowatts a bit sluggish meh. Wish it had a little turbo at least then it would be perfect.
Toyota did the face better than the Suzuki IMO. That 4-Speed is terrible. Drove the UC from PTA to PLK and it was noisy and consumes a lot of fuel. While it jumps off the line it soon runs out of steam and whines.. and as for the Urban Cruiser infotainment, WTF?
@lungelosikobi6980 when i look at a crossover I just want to sleep. I don't understand why people buy these. Get a proper SUV. Sedans at this price usually have more space and safety anyways
I prefer sedans, but now buy crossovers / suv's as this seems to be the trend of all vehicle brands. Sedans seem to be classed as old school and may have much lower trade in values compared to SUV's and Crossovers. 😮
Coming from a Ford Ecosport titanium, I am disappointed. The ford has lots of nice frills compared to the GV. I miss the 1 litre 3 turbo boost and 6th dear and reverse, heated seats, automatic rain wipers, 2 usb plugs in the front, and most import in a country where car hijacking is high, I cannot understand why there is not auto locking of the doors after a few metres? What I like, the ground height clearance of 210, and the comfortable seats and most import the big boot space. The GV unfortunately needs to work on the finer details of future technology if it wants to have a bigger market advantage on new technolo 14:30 gy cars.
Toyota disappoints on specs. That screen should not be in at that price point. At least start with a nice 8 inch screen. Would have to use the compare tool to get more fine details as to the differences and the prices. I'll take the Suzuki if it's more value for money (ie: more tech).
In Europe, is the Gran Vitara called the S Cross? It's confusing 😮 because the 4th Gen Vitara last the Grand name and is now a watered down pathetic Crossover.
Still no proper middle seat in the second row. Lack of back support and lack of foot space. Not many 5 seater cars caters for a family of 5. Annoying!!
Terrible and outdated drivetrain. In 2023 these cars have 77kw/138Nm? What a joke. I drive the Vitara Turbo GLX with a 1.4T and a 6 speed gearbox. Excellent drive that 1.4T is and I easily average less than 5L/100km on short and long distance trips
Unpopular opinion: Toyota is the Nintendo od the car world. Heavily overpriced for what you get. We can all debate reliability etc but times have changed compared to the 90's and 2000's where Toyota reliability was king. There are plenty brands that have great reliability. So that really doesn't stand out for me anymore as a reason to buy a Toyota.
Suzuki is a better value proposition. Toyota version only make sense if you are nowhere near a Suzuki dealer. Suzuki is less of a theft/hijack risk and insurance is more than likely cheaper too.
I chose the Grand Vitara GLX AT, excellent deal with the warranty/service plan, and just feels so nice to drive
How slow is it?
@@tungstencarbide7255 not a single person in this market is thinking about speed. We're talking about family cars... Not GTI's.
@91mrbrooks it's not about absolute speed, rather it's about how well it gathers speed for lane changes, uphill driving and overtaking. For context, a VW Polo 1.6i is plenty fast enough but a Nissan Juke CVT isn't - the polo isn't a GTI.
All these countless Toyota rebadges prove that Toyota's success means nothing about how good their products actually are. It just means people buy something that says "Toyota" on it without even considering that the competition might be better.
In Europe Toyota defends itself on the market actually only because of the best hybrid powertrains. Except for that, these cars are horribly outdated inside, not-user-friendly, covered with cheap paint, with naked plastic in the boot, overpriced + aggresive marketing makes it even more disgusting. Without hybrid powertrain, truly can't understand what makes people buy this corporate crap overseas.
So true.
@@Geebvs I live in South Africa and still wonder why people buy Toyota over better competition. Agreed.
Agreed. This is absolutely not a quality product. You’re doing yourself a disservice parting with your hard earned money on this without at least looking at the used market or competitors at the same price point (if you desperately want a brand new car)
@@Geebvs I agree that in cases where there is rebadging it is generally better to get the Suzuki because it often offers more for a lower price and I also agree that Toyota is kind of overpriced, but they are good cars though. They're reliable and easier to fix than German cars and they are user-friendly I can't think of anything that is not user-friendly about Toyota and I've never known their paint to be bad we've had a Toyota Camry for almost 20 years now and the paint still looks good despite my dad neglecting that car quite badly over the years.
Absolutely loved this review! The editor does an amazing job with the videos and the music 📹. I'd go for the Suzuki Grand Vitara, it's much more premium. Please review the new Toyota Vitz... 🙏 and the new Toyota GR Supra Manual when it comes for test. I'm dying for that video review so much 🤌😭
Appreciate the "to the facts" presentation. Good job - Ashley.
Suzuki seems like value for money it’ll definitely be the pick of the 2
I bought a Grand Vitara GL , it's a nice car . Very comfortable especially when you are driving around town. It feels more premium around town
Hi. Do you mind sharing the actual fuel consumption of the car? Is it the same as the claimed fuek consumption?
@@esihlephindilehlongwane6728 16.3km/l now
For town driving that's my average currently
What's the difference between GL n GLX
@@maplez470 Glx comes with leather seats, sunroof, wireless charging (useless when your phone is not compatible with wireless charging) , 360° camera and head up display. All this comes with a price tag of +-R60000
Love Ashley's reviews. He uses a language level that sounds like two car guys talking to each other, no marketing talk. Great review. Weirdly this time round, I like both the Suzuki and Toyota's styling.. Can't decide between them on looks.
Do you think Suzuki should be upset that its products with a Toyota badge are more popular?
Nope.
No
Both companies are winning in this partnership, not just in this market but worldwide. While it would be good if you got the Suzuki directly youre still getting into a Suzuki with this car on the front end.
Nope, it just shows the ignorance of people that a blindly brand loyal. Suzuki is winning either way. Brand loyalists are losing on warranty/service plan
Am i the only one who feels like this question is very ambiguous 😆🥲?
Loving my grand vitara... It comes with a 6yr 90k plan.... Not 4yrs
You gave an amazing review 👏 you just managed to speak about 2 cars so good that after the video the memory of both cars did not fade. You gave both a fair chance of time coverage and a clear side by side contrast, allowing every car to stand out and show case what it has got. I know you ate an incredible driver, but I didn't know you can elaborate with finest detail. Well done and thanks for this review. You aced it. Both car brands will be proud 👏
The fact there is alot of swifts and starlets and urban cruisers prove that suzuki is still the deal. Whether its a toyota suzuki or the original, Middle class owners cannot afford home loans let alone expensive cars. This is a growing sevement and will continue to grow.
I like it when The Sti- err Ash does the car reviews, a welcomed experience indeed.
😂😂😂
I'm here cause I like the SA accent😅. Greeting from Australia. PS, can you show us going through a red light at night. Lol
come on suzuki put the 1.4 turbo engine from previous gen that will greatly improve the fuel economy. i would take the Suzuki if I was looking in this segment.
We did a test drive and opted for the Corolla Cross.
Not actually in the market for either but curious why?
@@pieterrossouw8596 A few reasons because there is a premium to getting the Cross (the top end Grand Vitara has better specs in general and is similarly prices to the entry level Cross we got). It came down to the Cross feeling more solid, more planted and the engine having a bit more grunt (the CVT blunts that a bit though). We used to have a 2013 Qashqai 1.6 and that had more power than the Urban Cruiser/Grand Vitara. I think they are great options in town but for my while she commutes between Cape Town and Stellenbosch and the 1.5 is an OK engine but honestly not enough. Basically we dropped bells and whistles for better ride and what feels to be a more solid package. Funny enough I noticed the tyres, Cross comes with Bridgestones and the UC those Apollo ones.
Man that Vitara is a performance step down from the 2006-2011 models. The 2.7/3.2 V6 Grand Vitaras are so damn hardcore. I’ve had my 2.7 for 16 years now, never want to drive another car ever again.
GREAT JOB !
GREAT comparrison !
The Suzuki for me any day !
Although, even the Suzuki here is over priced looking at the under powered baby "Brezza" - engine...😮 it got..
I truly DON'T understand what that is about ??!!
Not making any sense at all.
I think both these models (Toy & Suzi) will not sell well because of this.
Better value in abundance elsewhere 😉
Great work, as always 👍✨
It is a Grand Vitara in name only, should have been called the new-gen Brezza.
@@DavetheCarGuy Now that is EXACTLY CORRECT ! It is in fact literally only the "facelift Brezza" - 100% correct 👍!
I still like the Actual Vitara (4×4) much more, even in the eighing format today 👍✨
Best 👍✨
@@CobusDerrenberg you know the top spec has a 6speed auto, AllGrip and a Hybrid right?
@@DavetheCarGuy this car is 2 segments up in terms of size and features to the Brezza, that isnt facelift territory. It has a slightly different engine and the gearbox is the same at the lower trims. Thats where the similarities end, heck it even has more boot space.
These Toyzukis are nice.
What is up with the Toyota not having a rear window wiper? I think that would have been worth a mention in the review.
Agreed. Why doesn't it have a rear wiper? I feel like it's an important safety issue.
@@MoniquevanderLinde-b6c its available on top-end models like hybrid specs
Keep the price down. A lot of spec has been omitted from the Cruiser over the Vitara for this reason, otherwise the pricing would have clashed with the Corolla Cross.
@@gazg00 Like really, ommitting a rear windscreen wiper? How costly can that be? It is standard spec on the cheapest of cars. Even a Renault Kwid has one.
@@matthysdb true........but when you manufacture thousands of cars, it adds up as a extra cost to the manufacturer. It sounds crazy, but that's how it is.
Great useful review on stuff buyers really care about.
Keep up good work!
I like the Grand Vitara Hybrid Allgrip. it makes economic sense, I will buy it and keep it forever. With this car, I can travel anywhere urban and off-road.
I think you were being very kind regarding the performance from the 1,5 engine. The power output is abysmal, especially up here Joburg where you lose 18% of available power at the coast. This means you have to constantly be changing gears to keep up with traffic on the freeways as 137nm torque is simply puny. It's a great car (I tested the Suzuki) , well packaged and for me the best looking in its segment but it needs an engine that matches the rest of the car. Suzuki has a brilliant 1 l turbo....
My concern as well. Family of 5 with luggage on the open road.... overtaking will be a labourous task and I don't want to sukkel
We took the grand Vitara to Kruger Park last month. We were loaded up to full capacity. Car had sufficient power, overtaking wasn’t an issue. Drove on cruise control most of the way and averaged 16.5km/l
@@neilwza I suppose it all depends on your expectations. For the entry models it's a lot of car for the money. But I won't be paying for the top of range model with that engine.
I bought a red Grand Vitara, the lighting from front and rear looks so sleek
On behalf of those who, like me, adore manual transmissions I appreciate Suzuki's consideration of user experience. Personally, I would choose the Vitara. 😅
I will definitely buy a Suzuki, it is well put together and looks solid and beautiful. But South Africans, Toyota will sell more units.
I choose Suzuki it looks better than toyota both front and back even inside the screen looks good
I test drove the previous Gen with the 4 speed auto. In that smaller car it was dangerously slow. I can't imagine in this larger car. I'd rather look at turbo cars from Chery and Haval at this price.
The Toyota? I cant fault you for looking at the Chineese competition. The only downside is the fuel economy isnt as good as the Suzuki/Toyota because those cars are heavier.
@@mindfreeze0838 Both yes. I couldn't believe that when I accelerated it's like nothing was happening. The needle barely moved from the speed but the noise went up.
Turbo is only really needed when overtaking at High Speeds ,unless you are a Formula 1 driver and Speed hungry ,this cars are not SLOW at all. TURBO cars also DO NOT last longer the Natural aspirated Engine Cars!!!.
@@knowledgembeuserua3407 No it isn't. Even when driving city speeds, it is dangerous. Also, many south Africans drive these cars on the highway and between provinces. Even at 80kph it struggles which will make overtaking very dangerous. It was slow with 2 people in the car. I can't imagine it loaded with passengers and their luggage. They can offer South Africans more but refuse to and give us junk engines instead because we accept it. The Chinese cars cost the same or less and are turbo charged and less hazardous. And turbo engines can last as long. If you think they don't last long, then tell that to the million km taxis in Europe with European turbo engines.
@@SDav21❤
great review, relatable and informative...
Can you please do a comparison between the Suzuki Grand Vitara and a Toyota Corolla Cross?
Cabin noise and suspension stiffness is quite high on my list of things. I suppose I would need to test drive both to check cabin noise. Isnt there a different way that you can guys can measure cabin noise? Like with a sound meter, cause my ears arent the same as yours (lol) 😁
It is too loud and really avg cars. i prefer the refinement of the Honda BRV.
Look at all the Ford Ranger owners in the comments section player hating on the Toyota brand.. All those repairs bills got you grumpy.
In India, Toyota Urban Cruiser is a rebadged version of Maruti Suzuki Brezza. The Brezza is a different league altogether compared to the Suzuki Grand Vitara in that it’s a smaller car however both the cars share the global C platform.
We had the same here in 🇿🇦 with our first version of Urban Cruiser, based on the Brezza.
Dont know why Toyota SA spec their cars so poorly. If you look at Toyotas overseas they have such amazing features, oh, and a sunroof 🥲😂😂which Toyota SA don't do for some reason. Amazing how much difference a badge makes...
This car is priced too close to the Corolla Cross which has a bigger stake in SA, hence why it doesnt get the bells and whistles.
@@mindfreeze0838 My mother has the Corolla Cross, sure it has some nice features, but if you look at a review of the Corolla Cross in Australia you'll be mind blown with what it comes with😂
@@korvinpillay1002spot on , Toyota’s in SA poorly specced compared to overseas
Hello, please do a review on the Suzuki Fronx😁
What are the revs at a 100-120kph on the 4 speed auto?
Any honest recommendation between grand vitara and kia sonet EX 1.5 manual please help?
Im thinking to buy the Toyota, but i live i hot area, reach in the summer around 50 degrees with humidity.
Is the airconditing working fine with this weather??
Please i want feed back
Yes, the air-conditioning is good. We are in a hot climate here as well.
Please 🙏🏽 review the fronx when it comes out Ashley
Is this the top variant of Urban cruiser available in SA market?
what about fuel consumption? per 100 Kms?
6.0/100km
Will you guys be reviewing the Sizuki Fronx anytime soon? Was launched sometime IN August.
If it had a turbo, I would consider one. Here at the reef, cars struggle without a turbo.
It's basically the same vehicle. Toyota decided downgrade it (as they usually do). I actually don't think Toyota is worried about the Chinese products which are throwing in all the features with no extras to pay for. 🤔
Urban Cruiser is the equivalent of the Suzuki Brezza, not the Grand Vitara which is actually a higher model. So while it was a good video, not really a great comparison.
7.1L/100km isn't that bad My 2006 Toyota Avanza (daihatsu engine) was a 1.3, and that managed 7.8L/100km at best. So Toyota now has 6 Suzukis in its line up???
Not a fan of the rear indicator cluster at all, i must admit.
They are selling urban cruiser hyryder by the name of urban cruiser is SA 🤔
Is the strong hybrid variant available there?
No hybrid here
@@ronz91 not much practical though, the added cost would take years to compensate for the fuel you can save with the petrol+electric hybrid.
Grand vitara vs the Kia Sonet Which one is the better buy?.
Why does the dealer network matter? If something goes wrong and there's only a Toyota dealership, Toyota can fix it since it's the same car and vice versa.
@@Deckard717 I'm saying if something goes majorly wrong. Which it won't. I'm sure they have considered that and have a deal in the case where something major does goes wrong. The parts are the same anyway.
Because if you have a Suzuki badge, Toyota will not honour your warrantee/service plan. Vice versa.
@@weetbix2083A lawyer found that Toyota's warranty isn't a warranty. I experienced that in practice. I'd buy the Sooz.
A turbo would be nice but turbo engines are not reliable. This 1.5L engine uses lighter pistons , low tension rings and requires a very light oil specification which is 0w-16. Add a turbo to that and you'll end up with excessive oil consumption and a dead engine in no time. This is the plague of the decade. I am glad there are still naturally aspirated engines available out there and with a reliable manual transmission. I am definitely getting one of these before they are no more made. I am going with the Suzuki Grand Vitara because I find it better looking and more robust inside and out, and cheaper.
The piston and connecting rods are different part numbers on Turbo. That means they are using strengthened components. This is not your typical home-boi turbo swap .
The two cars are not equivalent. Toyota doesn't have an Urban Cruiser at the same trim level. To compare prices is moot. The XR is more like a Suzuki GL automatic. They should have compared those rather. You'll see that the Suzuki is actually R10 000 cheaper, while still offering more features and a better warranty and service plan.
love your videos. wish the engine was a bit bigger. i guess rav4 is the way.
😂😂Mr Oldfield is a race car driver to the bone, he didn't approve of the standard tyre
Can you please compare the Toyota urban cruiser with a Toyota starlet cross
3:40 that means if you service that transmission on time it would out last those CVT and smother than a DCT
No automatic cabin lights when opening the front door and locking of the doors on take off in the Urban Cruiser. I recently got the latest spec.
There is- look above the rear passenger doors and click them
It’s a yes from me 🎉 I jus enjoy watching this Japanese engineering collaboration
R50 000, is R50 000.
Less Maintenance when you have the Auto-Box.
Little Inch here and a Bootlight there..
Not sure if this Toyota/Suzuki Twins are Good for the Market.
As Ash mentioned, Dealer Network with Toyota, Service Levels vs Suzuki, normally part of a Multi-Franchise Circus Setup.
The Extra Warranty is not a Deal-Breaker, as these cars are not Problamatic ( if it was German, it would be another story ).
a Extra Year or Two Extension on Service Plan for Toyota, will cost you less than R20/30 000.
Less than 10k to extent the service plan.
@@lesediseemela9856 even Better then..😉
I love both these cars, but I feel its actually overpriced. Why would one go for these if you can get an automatic Toyota Cross Xi for R350k. The cross is a bigger car and more powerful. What am I missing?
My biggest problem with these cars is that I don't fit at all. they are not made for tall people.
Is thé the same size as the Creta or Venue?
Toyota urban cursier is the best car for resale value
True. That's another thing to consider
Will we be seeing a Toyota hillux GR review👀
Grand vitara is less photogenic but in real life it looks way better than the toyota
The plumblink reference is funny 🤣🤣🤣
The Urban Cruiser is the Toyota equivalent of the Suzuki Brezza, not the Grand Vitara, which is a different model. Unfortunately the new Brezza won't be coming to SA, or so I'm told.
True.
Urban Cruiser = Brezza
Urban Cruiser Hyryder = Grand Vitara
For such a high specced car, I cant believe RDS is nowhere to be seen in the car, or any of the other Suzuki offerings. Why?
Ah, eish, I don't know. 1.5L, naturally aspirated in such a large(ish) car... I have a Ciaz, same engine, and I have to time my overtakes carefully. I love Suzuji cars, but I just don't know about this one.
Is it better than mitsubishi expander
Suzota at it again. Win
Grand vitara all the way. 😎
Great SUV for south african family only thing just a big suv 1.4 77 kilowatts a bit sluggish meh. Wish it had a little turbo at least then it would be perfect.
Thats not happening as these are made in India and they dont have the 1.4L Boosterjet there and to import them is a bomb.
@@mindfreeze0838 its pity because then like the old vitara boosterjet engine this would be an awesome .
Suzuki does look better
Wait maruti suzuki sells their cars in south africa also ?!!!😮
Lol yes we have Suzuki here too
Toyota did the face better than the Suzuki IMO. That 4-Speed is terrible. Drove the UC from PTA to PLK and it was noisy and consumes a lot of fuel. While it jumps off the line it soon runs out of steam and whines.. and as for the Urban Cruiser infotainment, WTF?
Both cars have Suzuki's hardware,that's worth to mention
Nice
The Toyota looks nicer but the Suzuki seems like a better car
Gostei do Suzuki, mas eu ainda prefiro o Toyota por várias razões
Logic? Both are Suzuki's. Don't let fanboyism cloud your logic.
Hands on the steering wheel pls
Chery and Haval >
No boot light in the Urban Cruiser again thats disappointing
Crossovers are so depressing. We need sedans back
please share more, depressing how?😅 I just want to know more about this thought
@lungelosikobi6980 when i look at a crossover I just want to sleep. I don't understand why people buy these. Get a proper SUV. Sedans at this price usually have more space and safety anyways
I prefer sedans, but now buy crossovers / suv's as this seems to be the trend of all vehicle brands. Sedans seem to be classed as old school and may have much lower trade in values compared to SUV's and Crossovers. 😮
@cjacobsza yeah they do have lower trade in value unfortunately
Maybe we can get sedans back again when we get our roads back again!
Coming from a Ford Ecosport titanium, I am disappointed.
The ford has lots of nice frills compared to the GV. I miss the 1 litre 3 turbo boost and 6th dear and reverse, heated seats, automatic rain wipers, 2 usb plugs in the front, and most import in a country where car hijacking is high, I cannot understand why there is not auto locking of the doors after a few metres?
What I like, the ground height clearance of 210, and the comfortable seats and most import the big boot space. The GV unfortunately needs to work on the finer details of future technology if it wants to have a bigger market advantage on new technolo 14:30 gy cars.
Grant Vitara for me...
Me too,in the process of buying the glx,maybe slow but reliable
Toyota disappoints on specs. That screen should not be in at that price point. At least start with a nice 8 inch screen.
Would have to use the compare tool to get more fine details as to the differences and the prices. I'll take the Suzuki if it's more value for money (ie: more tech).
In Europe, is the Gran Vitara called the S Cross? It's confusing 😮 because the 4th Gen Vitara last the Grand name and is now a watered down pathetic Crossover.
Vitara best car
The 4 speed Gearbox is horrible
GV Strong hybrid!
Service plan is 4 yrs / 60 000 kms, not 3 yrs!
Wrong.. 6yr 90k
Still no proper middle seat in the second row.
Lack of back support and lack of foot space.
Not many 5 seater cars caters for a family of 5.
Annoying!!
77kw for over R350k 😂 these cars are a farce as family cars.
The Suzuki better
Terrible and outdated drivetrain. In 2023 these cars have 77kw/138Nm? What a joke. I drive the Vitara Turbo GLX with a 1.4T and a 6 speed gearbox. Excellent drive that 1.4T is and I easily average less than 5L/100km on short and long distance trips
Urban Cruiser
Just fit a Rotrexc entrifugal supercharger.
Unpopular opinion: Toyota is the Nintendo od the car world. Heavily overpriced for what you get. We can all debate reliability etc but times have changed compared to the 90's and 2000's where Toyota reliability was king. There are plenty brands that have great reliability. So that really doesn't stand out for me anymore as a reason to buy a Toyota.
The next tata wil have a toyota badge
man your music is too loud