I feel like this is what separates religions that are nearly cults (Mormonism, Catholicism if we’re being real) from healthier religions (Buddhism?, some parts of Christianity, eastern religions, I’ve never heard a bad thing about Judaism). Of course every religion has the good and bad churches and groups but I feel like there really is a significance to the looking up vs down, which could double as shame or focusing on hell rather than heaven.
@@ellabiddy4741 Any religion has potential for personal growth, as well as abuse. The trick is to (like you've noticed, and as was stated in the video) turn their teachings on yourself, not on others. History has records of Buddhists using their beliefs to justify war and oppression. Judaism is the cause of the decades long Isreal-Palestine conflict. Nothing is perfect.
@@ellabiddy4741 there has been millions of catholics who refused a comfortable life for a life of commitment, I think the problem is hypocrisy more than looking at good or evil. It is good to fight evil and it is evil to don't look for good. Picking evil in others to place hate on them is evil but if one fights evil in himself should also point it out to others in private so they can learn from it and see it doesn't come from some form of envy. That's my take on it.
@@ellabiddy4741 You haven't heard a bad thing about Judaism because it's well guarded secret that will cost your livelihood to discuss. Judaism teaches that Jesus Christ is boiling in excrement in hell and that Mary was a whore and is filled with filth like how a 3 year old girl's virginity will keep coming back to her.
@ellabiddy4741 Buddhism is certainly not all good (has problematic elements - translation for wokies). The extreme discipline with the brushing and whipping with sticks and all that side of things just does not look healthy for the mind, it's like OCD! Also did you know that Buddhist temples keep a elephant chained in them (look it up) who is really depressed because he can't go anywhere and never gets company. Temple elephants is barbaric to me
Yeah but how long do you expect that to last? Picture the life of a 2020 newborn. 1/2 the parents will teach them this SJW/BLM/Antifa bullshit, 100% of public schools now teach nothing but this bullshit, 100% of universities are obsessed with this bullshit, 100% of paper media pushes this bullshit, 95% of TV media pushes this bullshit, silicon vally is all about the bullshit, EVERY day truth tellers & opposing views are scrubbed off Facebook, Twitter, RUclips etc, & 1/2 the government has put their power towards growing this brainwashed selectively outraged disingenuous movement. Your optimism is misplaced. We. Are. Fucked.
Gospel of John, Chapter 8, Verse 7 " He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her" Andrew M. are you without sin as well for judging those who judge?
Topher Zajic that story has context and it’s even disputed as being in the earliest versions of the text. But here is some context that you missed in the story. It says she was caught in the act. So where was the man who was caught with her? Jesus in this story and during his ministry was showing the unjust way that man rules himself. The hypocrisy of enforcing the law on the woman but not the man she was caught with is problematic. He would not partake in the sharing of the hypocrisy and affirming the injustice of only punishing half the party to this condemnable sin. If this story is even true which is up for debate. It is not in the oldest texts so it may very well be an addition.
Cancel culture got tunnel vision too, almost all they do is zero in on specific faults they have the strongest grievances over, cannot see the light sides of someone else, etc.
This whole segment actually gives me anxiety. Last year I had a major argument with a friend about how all white people benefit from systemic racism, and I tried to explain to her about my poor Eastern European background, how my great-grandparents were in labor camps etc., literally had nothing to do with colonialism as far back as our records go, but she still insisted myself and my ancestors are part of a privileged class and always have been and that I was inherently racist. Because of skin colour. She was my friend for over four years and had succumbed to this religion and I couldn't bring myself to speak to her since. She was a really close friend but I just can't be friends with someone who insists I'm racist when I'm not. I am extremely hurt and enraged and genuinely offended on behalf of my ancestors whose deep struggles under Communism and Nazism doesn't "really count" because of their skin colour. Where was white privilege when they were shoved in trains and dumped in Siberian woods? Fuck.
Ah, yeah. This happened to me too where my friend for about 15 years cut me out. He got married to a sjw and I expressed my displeasure of the kneeling during our national anthem. We didn't get in that big of a fight but it did spill over into some pretty contentious text messages. Also, I been called a 'white man' by my step sister and my aunt because I didn't agree with this religion. I've heard stories of people being kicked out of their social circle because they didn't convert to an activist. Seriously, you're not alone and a lot of people have been labeled a heretic.
Is this friend US-american? They do not understand any other society dynamic than black vs white. That makes them struggle with Europe's history of diverse racisms and privileges
What we’re seeing today is a magnified expression of the “Tocqueville Paradox.” Freedom from scarcity and general improvement of social norms have given people the luxury to find increasingly trivial things to complain about.
Yeah. How many people truly care about the hot button issues like BLM or transgenderism or what pronouns are okay? A lot of people are just trying to make it day by day. Most political “activists” don’t have a day job. They don’t have the concerns of being a regular person.
This is exactly what Sweden is going through and has been for a while. Its been too good here for too long. But im afraid that's gonna change quite rapidly
I get called Racist all the time...I just laugh ...They want you to react..Thats why its so common to attack someone based on theyre race...I dont even entertain it because once you start to try proving to them your not a racist you have all ready stepped in the shit...
Yeah, its a game with rules rigged against you. Its the only game you can win by not playing, but how can you win by not playing, when those setting the rules are closing in on things you can use to escape from their insanity. We live in a time when millions of people are going mad, and so many of then have gone mad that they find someone who ISN'T mad and they say, "You are mad because you are not like us!"
We have reached the ultimate stage of absurdity where a group of people are held responsible for things that happened before they were born, while another group of people are not held responsible for what they themselves are doing today.
@Mercb3ast dont even try with these people... They already got their conclusion set even thought they're too pussy to say it clear and directly. They think black people are inherently worse than white people hust look at the original comment. Clear as day.
My friends used to have this dumb game where we’d tell somebody “I think robots are trying to take over the world. Are you a robot?” Then they’d say “no” of course. Then we would say “that sounds exactly like something a robot would say”. And it would continue so nothing they could say or do could sway us from “believing” that they were a robot. So safe to say I’ve seen this game before.
Why hasn't anyone called Trudeau out on his many, many scandals? You know, his divorce, the fact he has been hiding out in his home by himself for months under the lie of a 14 day quarantine first, then another lie after that. He shut down democracy in Canada, tried to take unlimited power, twice, bought off the media and only answers prescreened questions from "approved" reporters. If you see this comment, please, say something. We need help in Canada. We are trying to get the word out but nobody cares. He just has the 5th ethics scandal in 5 years! He ordered his attorney general to interfere in a court case against a huge liberal doner and when she refused he fired her. Three or more black face scandals. Accusing India of inviting a terrorist to a dinner on his India trip when he was the one who did it, along with the embarrassing cultural appropriation of Indian dress the whole trip. He has assaulted women, physically and sexually. Our media does not care! People refuse to hold him accountable. Canada needs help! We are tweeting away, trying to get attention to this massive problem. Spread the word please. Thank you.
The example I love, is how these devotees are tearing down historic statues - and I'm reminded of the Taliban demolishing the ancient, priceless, Buddhist statues in Afghanistan. Simply because the statues were offensive to Islam. I'm disgusted by anybody who seeks out history to destroy it.
@B Basen pretty much every single statue has a placque explaining it's existence, the art of the statue grabs your attention and then you learn from it. Saying statues teach nothing is idiotic to say the least.
"they are actually wrestling with their inner demons" "Cult-like indoctrinations....in thought processes and implementations" That is such an amazing way to explain what seems to be happening!! Absolutely spot on!!
I don't recognize this America anymore. We are all human and share the human experience regardless of what skin color we have. Thank God slavery has ended in the United States and slowly over the years equal rights have been extended to all. All of a sudden (media 2020) we are being made hyper aware that people of color are extremely different from white people, a separation narrative is happening, that we must accept their struggles and differences. My father is black, my mother is white, I am mixed. Let's continue to move forward with progression in the human race, not divide everybody out into groups.
You're mixed and your mother and father never told you stories of their different upbringing? You're mixed but speak in astonishment of the racial conflicts that play out in our world today? You're mixed, but said "All of a sudden (media 2020) we are being made hyper aware that people of color are extremely different from white people, a separation narrative is happening, that we must accept their struggles and differences." WHAT? So either you're mixed and prefer your white half over your Black half, have never spoken to your father, OR you're just a white person who's TRYNG to sound neutral in fear of your comment coming off as bias or one-sided.. Hmmm
"I don't recognize this America anymore." So you're old enough to remember what America WAS like during another era/time? Can you tell me what that America was like for people of color? I'll wait. Should be interesting to read you going back in time reminiscing of the great ways colored people were depicted, viewed, and treated. And the further your stories date back, the better the situations were for people of color, correct? I'll wait on this answer as well.
@@thebakery3996 Perhaps similarly to those who are the most homophobic turning out themselves to be homosexual. The lady doth protest too much me thinks after all.
There's an old saying here in Spain "Dime de qué presumes y te diré de qué careces", which roughly translates as "Tell me what you brag about and I'll tell you what you lack". It means, more often than not, the thing people brag about is precisely the thing they either lack or feel insecure about. You brag about your confidence? Odds are you aren't that confident. You brag about being a badass? Odds are you are anything but. You brag about how tolerant you are? Odds are you're the most intolerant asshole anyone could come across.
My Spanish teacher in HS told us about that saying. It comes to mind often when I scroll through facebook. It's one of those things that stuck with me throughout the years.
Also, don't forget about the phenomenom called "furor del converso". In Spanish Inquisition times, the most vicious Christians persecuting Jews and Muslims usually had Jewish and Moorish ancestry. Once you change boats, you have to be most radical in order to convince your new friends. So many of those obnoxious male feminists are that way because they used to be creeps who harrassed women and now they pretend all men are like they used to be, they need to compensate their past. Girls, if you meet an over the top male feminist, run.
@@steamedclam1 What's happening here is a critique of the irony that is op's comment. Clearly Op has embraced 'social media' to be posting comments on Joe Rogan.
:44 "Retro-cancellation" might be a result of social media. Before this tech, a kid's transition to high school or college was a chance to grow, shed an old identity, and actualize other aspects of their personality. Social media anchors a person's self-concept within a specific group of peers and makes it more difficult to grow beyond old friendships and to transcend past identifications. The extension of the person's early social groups through social media fixes their identity over time. Just a theory.
I'm an atheist and I can assure you: religion isn't the problem, ideology is. Those fundamentalists types are exactly the ones who are ideological about religion. And in politics it's the same.
Absolutely. If you treat politics or religion like a sports team, in the sense that yours is the best and everyone else sucks, and your "team" can do no wrong and you will ignore or defend any wrongdoings of your "team", you're part of the problem.
It’s all about the ideology of collectivism vs individualism and its manifesting as this problem now. But its been 99% vs 1%, blacks vs non blacks, our team vs your team, etc
6:12 My black friend once told me that there is "invisible racism" that he personally has never experienced but he KNOWS is there. It was the most idiodic thing Ive ever heard
Like there isn’t “invisible racism” with white people. Lol walk into china town, you know what I’m talking about. But we only think people are being racist against us, when for the most part they probably aren’t.
Everyone stereotypes and everyone has a bias. It's just a human condition to recognize patterns or trends. But I certainly do not think that translates to racism. Today, everyone is throwing that word around like it's nothing.
My parents grew up in the Soviet Union, it's very eerie how similar it all is to their stories. What you're seeing now is a prelude to something infinitely worse. The only thing that has any chance at stopping it is if normal people continue to openly discuss its blatant logical fallacies and abuses. But these people realize that, which is why the thing they attack first and foremost is all freedoms of expression. Whatever you fuckin do, DO NOT STOP TALKING ABOUT THIS SHIT. Be precise in your speech, but do not shy away from it or it'll get worse than you can imagine.
You want to get real controversial? This sort of political religious indoctrination/interrogation didn't start around race. It started around sexual orientation.
@@DoomSausage1 No, he's talking about the gay acceptance movement in the late 80's and early 90's, where certain myths like sexual orientation is exclusively a hardware issue and that the gay community does not account for a massively disproportionate amount of HIV cases became dogmas that cannot be questioned even today, doing so would get you to be de factoed labeled a homophobe. Gender dysphoria is the same movement (LGBTQ) but in a later stage, and curiously it is beginning to turn unto itself gnaw at its own tail quickly becoming aggressively anti-gay. Should be a warning to all these loons that are touting the BLM movement, because the fact this starts as a pro-black movement does not mean that's how it will end up when it's all said and done.
Adrian Arenas How could sexual orientation be a software issue? Are you referring to stuff such as “Trauma with A -> I am now exclusively attracted to B” or am I missing the point?
This is whats truly scary about this kind of thought. It requires complicity to avoid persecution and at the same time defines any criticism as evil. Its impossible to argue against effectively.
Herein lies the sad paradox that they may never realise: In psychology and in buddhism the way forward is about forms of acceptance. The premise of this movement is based on rejection. The more you try to squash something the harder it bounces back, like a spring. Sadly they may end up fuelling the very thing they fear the most. The reactionary movements may be worse than what we are seeing now. Hugging the "demon" with compassion is what lessens it's power. Fight the demon and it grows stronger and stronger. Sad times.
Reminds me of this folk tale but there's no shame at the end: "Old woman!" A boy called. "Come and show us how wise you are!" Holding a bird behind his back so no one could see what was in his hands, he walked triumphantly to the wise woman's home. He would ask the woman whether the bird was alive or dead. If the woman replied, "alive," he would crush it with his hands and prove her wrong. If she answered, "dead," on the other hand, he would pull the living bird from behind his back and allow it to fly away. Either way he would prove his point and the wise woman would be discredited. The boy called. "Is the bird I am holding alive or dead?" The wise woman paused for a long moment while the boy waited with anticipation for his opportunity to prove her wrong. Again the woman spoke calmly, "The answer, my young friend, is in your hands. The answer is in your hands." The boy realized that the wise woman had once again spoken correctly and truthfully. The answer was indeed in his own hands. Feeling the bird feebly moving in his hands as it tried to escape his grasp, he felt suddenly very ashamed. Slowly and gently he brought his hands to the front of his body. Looking into the eyes of the delicate bird he apologized, "I am sorry little one," and he opened his hands to let her go free.
Absolutely. China is the role model we will be rebuilt into, it's been planned for a long time. Then eventually reduced to a hunger games society of absolute poverty for everyone except the elites. Get ready for universal basic income which will be a poverty level amount. Food will be rationed in a so called effort to reduce greenhouse gasses...we will be given a daily caloric amount....not kidding. Listen to Rosa Koire talk about Agenda 2030 and sustainable development....she has read all of their documents and spells it out in black and white. Terrifying stuff
As a firm catholic, this guy is absolutely correct. In the Catholic Church these huge variation on individuals and how they view sin. The ones who’re always focusing too much on their sins can turn on their own brethren and become like the Pharisees. As many church fathers have pointed out, it’s important to cleanse ourselves of sin. Be free from its clutches, but at the same time, Our focus should be on Christ and his loving redemption and his infinite mercy. A core tenant of our faith is that EVERYONE can be redeemed IF they choose the path of righteousness. We also aren’t supposed to judge others as not everyone is on the same “level” as you. Not everyone is born a saint. In fact many saints were at first great sinners.
I was also raised as a Jehovah’s Witness and resonate with this HARD CORE. When the BLM stuff first started happening I went to hang out with my progressive friends in LA and they literally used the same arguments and tactics that JW’s used when I was in the church. It was scary af.
Unfortunately, Thomas Sowell is quite old. As brilliant as he is, and as much as a 50, 60, or even 70 year old Thomas Sowell could have helped in this situation - he's 90 now. We should leave the man alone.
This guy is smart. He sees through the whole thing, he even sees their motivations, like they’re struggling with their own racism and they project it on everyone else. I hadn’t seen it that way until now and it’s a powerful revelation
Dude, I’ve said exactly the same thing for years! Morons obviously wield that word like it’s the most powerful weapon that they can use against white people, and you can see white people getting defensive about it and squirming in a weak way. Just say “don’t care.”
I think it is time to turn 'racist' into a good word. It is like being a 'specialist' in races. "Hell yes I'm a racist! I love all races! I love them so much I have a keen interest in them having amazing lives full of love and happiness.'
As an ex-witness myself, I agree fully. I've been drawing comparisons for people since all this started. I'm also baffled that my sister, an ex-witness, has drunk the koolaid of SJWism completely, and sees no irony in it whatsoever. (She's also "disfellowshipped" me for not agreeing with her dogma. We haven't spoken in months.)
SeedsOfHatred That’s really sad to hear. You may have, like myself, read books on cults and how they work. The majority of people who escape a cult or high-control group typically just wind up in another one to fill that void in themselves. We have a huge mental advantage with our earned wisdom after waking up from the witnesses. Most people in the world do not have that advantage, and it’s showing unfortunately.
The “admit your racist or else. It’s only a formality” is literally the act of apostatizing like what’s portrayed in the movie Silence about the persecution of Christians in Japan, when they wanted the priests to, as a formality, publicly denounce their faith under the threat of violence to maintain a lockdown of their ideology on Japan. It’s the exact same thing.
@@FormerPessitheRobberfan I agree that all religions have historically created a lot of problems, not because religion is inherently evil, but because people are stupid and use their religious beliefs as a cover to act horribly towards other humans who don't have the same beliefs. unfortunately by its nature religion creates a conformity of thought that doesn't really match the principles of a free thinking and open society. However, a free thinking and open democratic society can be fine allowing religious people to exist, if that society is predicated on freedom and encourages different schools of thought to create a vibrant marketplace of ideas. The problem with humans and religion is that for many of us, once religious beliefs become strong enough, we're not content with allowing different schools of thought to exist, and we begin using bully tactics, mob shaming, fear of reprisal and violence to enforce our beliefs on everyone else. that's when religion becomes a problem, and for me the woke school of thought - with its cancel culture movement causing real world problems for those who think differently and its inability to understand or tolerate any different points of view - is absolutely becoming a real religious threat to our free and open society, just like Christian fundamentalism has created problems at various times in our history and Islamic fundamentalism has traditionally been a problem for women's rights. As a liberal myself I'll always be against this kind of stuff, because practicing tolerance for different viewpoints and respecting debate and exchange of ideas is a cornerstone of liberalism.
I am an ex-Jehovah’s witness and am so glad to hear Joe say this. I felt the same way about this movement, it has all of the cult hallmarks, just like the cult I was raised in! Also, yes, there are both healthy and in unhealthy religions.
What James is describing is the old Aesop's fable of the emperor's new robe. The Emperor was sold an invisible robe (systemic racism, white privilege and victimhood) by scam artists which was spun of magic gold cloth that only the wise (woke) can see. Everyone in the court wanted to please the emperor as he was a tyrant, and they also wanted to be seen as wise by other members of the court so they all lied and pretended to see the invisible robe and told the emperor it was a magnificent robe. The emperor paraded around the capitol buck naked while everyone pretended to be wise and exclaimed to him how amazing the robe was. One day a beggar came to the city and saw this parade, a naked emperor, everyone pretending he has a robe on, and the beggar laughed loud and hard and exclaimed, " the emperor is naked"! Upon this, the crowd laughed with an uproar and pointed at the emperor mocking his nudity. Point is very clear in this story. What is not clear is this, it took a bum who cared not what others thought of him to speak the truth everyone already knew. Todays society is full of yes men and court jesters who pretend they see
When he described the brown fragility part it reminded me of when I was in a race class in college. I was the only person who questioned the teacher and I almost felt like if I didn’t agree to it then the whole class would think I am just stupid. I realize now that my college took part on this cult idea.
One of my best friends is a black man from St. Lucia. Once we were in a lineup at a fast food restaurant in a mostly white town. My friend got into a very nice conversation with two random white elderly adults in front of us. He happened to need to use the washroom and they didn’t realize I was his close friend while looking like a typical white man in line. When my friend was in the washroom the white older people kept saying “You see you can’t just judge people because they are black.” It was extremely unintentionally racist, and when my friend returned and it became obvious we were friends, the elderly couple became frozen in fear in spite of literally never saying a single bad thing. Spot the problem?
This whole episode is great. James put into words the same thoughts I've been having for the last few years just much more intelligently. Glad I'm not alone
I get where you're coming from. Years ago, it struck me that Fascism was NOT a right wing movement. It didn't make any sense to say that when you looked at it closely. I thought that this just couldn't be and that I was the only one who thought this way. So, I kept learning about it and had to conclude that I'd made the proper assessment and, to my surprise, that I was NOT alone. It sure took a load off my shoulders.
The word “whore” comes from the Germanic word “khor” which means “lover.” In England when the Romans were occupying, the language was a mix of Germanic, Saxon, Gaelic, and Latin. Latin was considered high speak, for the aristocrats, and the peasants and lower echelons of life spoke Germanic and Gaelic. So when they used the German word for lover to describe your girlfriend or wife, it was most definitely an insult. Speaking of the origins of words.
You're right. Asian countries are usually the most racist. But Joe was probably using Indians in America as his reference when he said that. Indians in America are quite progressive and accepting of people regardless of caste or race.
@zx82 accepting people based on religion ? India has accepted religion of the entire world. Everyone is welcome. You won't find a more hospitable country.
@zx82 you are being fed with a lot of bullshit from BBC I suppose. I live here amongst lot of muslims .. there is no lynching. Few cases has happened in the past but it has happened on both sides.
Totally culture. The same experience if you have lived abroad. And I have lived in many nations as a woman. It is about openly expressing how you feel and your friend helping you understand. Even then it takes 6 months to a year to become integrated into the culture.
I went into this video thinking “oh god here’s another All Lives Matter white guy pretending he’s not racist and spouting all this bullshit.” After I started watching, I quickly realized that this guy is saying exactly what’s been going through my mind this whole time. I can’t believe how cult-like all this wokeness is. I’ve always been pretty against organized religion, and I think he is right on the money getting to the root of the problem, which is human nature needs that void filled with something, and indoctrination into a “Cult of Wokeness” is what we see happening now. I always considered myself a pretty liberal lefty and adamantly anti-racist, but when everyone calls you racist just because you’re white (regardless of your background and upbringing), you start to believe it no matter how “woke” you think you are. It’s a competition. It’s a religion. Holy shit it’s a disease. This is exactly what I needed. Major thanks to James and Joe for this talk!
I went into this video thinking “oh god here’s another All Lives Matter white guy pretending he’s not racist and spouting all this bullshit.” It seems the "cult of wokeness" has already worked on you. A smaller degree than others perhaps, but if at any point you allow someones color (or any other identifier), dictate how you approach a person's position before hearing it, the cult has already turned you into a bigot, towards the group the cult (in this case the woke cult) has approved.
Yeah, you’re already pretty close to being in the cult, guy. Your absurd bigotry going into the video is only partially redeemed by your change of heart after watching.
Really interesting point by James Around a person starting the concept of example 'white fragility' because they 'pdon't want to be alone' in having these thoughts. Quite similar base to the psychology 'unwanted thoughts'
Just gonna say, people haven’t become less religious and more rational without traditional religions. They’ve just started worshipping anything. At least traditional religions worship what they think is the ultimate reality of the universe. Seems a bit more worthy of worship than identity politics.
Thirty years ago, I was having a conversation with an African American co-worker who we were on pretty open-minded and friendly terms with (we didn't "hang out" outside of work--neither of us tended to mix work people into our social lives outside of it all that often--but we did have a familiarity and mutual respect that, had we known each other OUTside of work, it probably would have manifested as a friendship, if you can follow). He straight up asked me: "Do you think that you're a racist?" I replied as honestly as possible: "In sociology (at that time), a racist is defined by enacting power over someone else, determined on the basis of race. Since I have basically no power in this world, I'm probably not very racist." But I also didn't let myself off the hook. "I would follow that up by saying that pretty much all humans in society--any society--are brought up with prejudices and begin to process their attitudes based on those developed prejudices. As a white person, those prejudices we get brought up with usually take the form of some kind of bigotry. Sometimes, I can think them, but can catch myself so that I don't say or act on them. I'd say that's most of us that don't WANT to be bigots or racists, no matter what we were raised with, or what the world taught us to believe or say. Sociology (at that time) calls that 'Timid Bigotry.' So, I would say, maybe I'm not a racist, but I do recognize I could still have some bigoted tendencies, that I at least try not to act on. And I'm working on that." His response: "That..is an answer that I can accept. Because you were honest about it, and you didn't justify it. And you recognized it's a learned thing we can at least hope to learn our way past." He also found it intriguing to recognize that all of us grow up developing "group-based" prejudices (you can spot African-Americans ready to shit on whites, or latinos; whites who are ready to shit on...everybody else, right down to which religious denomination or ethnicity; and to this day at my current work-place, I watch latinos ready to shit on other latinos: Cubans who shit on Dominicans and Puerto Ricans; Puerto Ricans who talk a LOT of shit about Mexicans; Mexican-Americans born here who shit ALL OVER Mexicans who weren't and came here...) We ALL grow up developing some really fucked-up in-group exclusivity prejudices. And we all have a lot of learning and evolving to get past them. As a white person I do have the honesty to recognize this--history will still demonstrate that, as a Whitey: Whitey got some breaks sometimes, just by being Whitey. And our forefathers set up a society where the more you looked and behaved like Whitey, the more breaks you might get. Let's not lie to ourselves about that.
Thanks, and I appreciate and took the time to read your comment. I'm going to write a long reply, in agreement. I know absolutely that where I grew up in the midwest, had I had black skin and made the same idiotic choices as a teenager and young "adult" I would have had a drastically different life trajectory. All the times I was given a pass, for vandalism, drinking, weed, general mischief, given probation for minor shoplifting, etc?.?. If I was from the other side of our very segregated small town I would have been in the system as a juvenile and doomed to a permanent criminal record as a minor. All this said, cancel culture is so harmful and insane. I'm an advocate of relaxing a little and allowing people not to be perfect. I think everyone should be able to fuck up when they're young, and still have a chance at a decent life. People grow up, stop acting out, and mature. Holding anyone to a perfect standard, or a different higher standard because of skin color, is where systemic racism is perpetrated. It sets some people up to fail, because nobody is perfect, and young people are often stupid. Retroactively requiring all people to have been perfect in the past isn't the answer either. EDIT: spellin'
Actually they wouldn’t approve of Amy Schumer because she has done something called (white signaling) which is signaling to a group of non whites that the main person of importance being Amy is signaling white dominance over the other. But yea the first part you said was super funny.
I never used to think about race, now it’s on my mind a lot through the day. To an unhealthy degree. And it’s because of ID politics. I’m so sick of it.
One of the main reasons this is all coming down the pike is because the invisible "we" have so many outposts like Twitter, Facebook and RUclips to voice our opinions, right or wrong and we can hide behind a veil and never be made responsible for what we say. Some people or organizations seem better at collecting their sheep. We are so brave when we stand behind an army of invisibility.
Thats what I been doing for years if they call me a racist I agree with them. The face people make when you start agreeing with them while they try to put stereotypes on you is classic.
Alan Watts was the first thinker to introduce me to the "Double-bind". I think it was originated by somebody called Bateson who theorized that it had connections to schizophrenia. The 'damned if you do, damned if you don't" feeling would eventually explode in the victim. I was in a cult, so I know this feeling well.
Robyn Deangelo is like a fundamentalist councillor at a gay conversion camp, because she’s in denial, about being gay. Plus her names actually Karen and she wants to speak to the manager. I’m in Australia, Caucasian, I work with Aboriginal People, experiencing Mental illness, as a Registered Nurse, Specialising. I have seen so much. I understand Mental Illness in a different way now. It should not even be called an illness but a natural reaction as a product of environment. Fly me up Joe, it’s my dream to talk on your show. Awareness is knowing that melanin is one of billions chemical reactions in a humans body. How does that make anyone different? Despite the way we treat each other. Respect and Education about inter generational trauma is important.
So James Lindsey said Jonathan Edward’s preaching led to the Salem Witch trials, but those trials were before Edwards was even born 🤦♂️ Your point is well taken though in that inquisitions are part of human nature (gone awry) & not limited to outwardly organized religions!
Gandhi doesn't represent India in any way, shape or form. He was a lucky guy at a lucky time and place to fit perfectly into a propaganda that made him a hero. That's all.
"No one ever thought that indians in india are racist..." . Joe you need to go out more. There is evidence that the Indian caste system was originally based on racism. No country is impervious to racism because they are naturally tribal.
It is totally true though. Prople here in India still lookdown on people with slightly darker skin. North Indians look down on South Indians because the southies are darker in skin even though southies outperform them in everything and havemuch better metrices than them. Fairness Creams are still a billion dollar industry. You see little to none dark skinned actresses representation in Bollywood. Ironically these woke actresses who speak of equality and diverse representation are the ones who endorse fairness brands. It is still very common to reject a girl just beacuse she is slightly darker in complexion and quite common to say it to her face with no regards, it is such a passive normal thing to do. And Many Indians in India especially (maybe due to ignorance or in some cases innocense )still use the N word and says that with such disgust as if they are the nastiest to look at in vanity point of view. So, I always tell Indians to not be hypocritical when judging the west. This is not just in India though the whole of Asia thinks the same. It is intrensically in their societies. I mean look at how Korea, China and other east asian countries look down upon the darker skin tones, you can see it with in their cultural references. But I think it is not entirely their fault either. All the Asian Countries are Insular societies inhabiting their land for thousands of years and it is very difficult to challenge the views that were passed down for thousands of years in societies that live in a bubble. This is being addressed in the US and in some Westerns countries because they are much more multicultural and very inclusive societies especially the US beacuse it was a country that basically is created on meritocracy and hence it is always encouraged to challenge the views, irrespective of how old they are or how they were presented.
Most people and groups are dogmatic, but some people will use underhanded, psychological manipulation and guilt to push their dogma onto others--that's the difference.
That is terrifying... I barely notice people in general. I can't imagine noticing things like that it would drive me nuts. Maybe I'm just really self absorbed but I never notice people like that in anyway. I grew up in blackwood NJ right near south philly so there were all kinds of different people.
7:00: As an Indian male, this can't be *further* from the truth. Lol there are some people in my circle that would make Richard Spencer sound PC and blush. I've also been pressured my whole life by family and friends to date exclusively white girls and eventually marry one. And now tbh I subconsciously find myself ignoring non-white love interests in favor of white ones
I was looking for this comment. I'm black and I fuck with Indian people but I'd be lying if I said I didn't feel like I was getting looked down at. It's definitely a problem but I'm not asking anyone to go to brown fragility seminars.
@@avoidantbehavior while it's sad to hear about that, I'm glad you're conscious of this toxic mindset. For me personally though, I've developed close friendships across all races. Ironically I really don't have any close Indian friends outside of family friends I have to tolerate lol. It's just the subconscious bias I have when it comes to choices of romantic partners. I just consistently find myself dropping/avoiding girls abruptly who seem like great gf material in favor of white girls, who I find myself to have sadly low standards for. I.e. the closer in melanin level they are to Harley Quinn, it seems the less reservations I have for commitment irregardless of other factors lmao.
I love how you guys on the right totally forget about the conservative cancel culture throughout the 80s and 90s with music and video games. I'm neither liberal or conservative. Both sides are jokes and forget pretty easily of the past.
Well that crusade was led by Al and Tipper Gore so it was actually a bi-partisan effort. It really shows how much the political spectrum has shifted in 30 years. Both equally ridiculous, but the left has left a lot of us in the middle...
@@ekohsports2254 thats the thing i feel both sides are just trying to get rid of people who are in the middle and force you to pick a side. Its like thier is no such thing as a conservative liberal or a liberal conservative in thier eyes anymore. Its either your for all of our parties views or your against us.
That was the Christian right, a faction of conservatives, and they lost because back then the media and the entertainment industry resisted them. Its not even comparable to today where the BLM cancel culture is backed by corporate America and one whole half of the political class at least. It is the establishment now. And as previously pointed out there were those on the left like Gore and Clinton who tried to play into that stuff too. I swear it always seems to be a case of "the right can be wrong. Or both sides can be wrong." For some reason the left can never be wrong by itself... Odd isnt it?
@@maticlee8535 No one has had their rights violated for hundreds of years, no one lives that long. This is identity politics the morally insane idea that someone can owe a debt for something someone else did or conversely be owed a debt for something that happened to someone else.
Hearing a atheist say looking up is the best way is refreshing. I believe is something greater and looking up is growth. I never thought i would hear that from a atheist
this is something i think about a lot, in the 90's it as the christians who were trying to cancel people and get tv shows canceled by writting the network
Did they ever succeed at any of it? Was the movement that big? Did they destroy statues illegally? I played magic the gathering a card game, the have literally cancelled ten cards, there is white and black magic and some white cards a say to destroy black cards. Christians did get one card art changed and that’s it. Was there ever any time someone in 90s succeeded at anything? Look how many people get fired over old tweets, how many comedians are blacklisted cause of it. It’s not even in the same ball park.
I would like someone to talk about the language of 'I'm not comfortable' as a power play. It's a way of taking the power as your conversation partner has to stop what they're doing to 'make you comfortable'.
Freud was constantly whacked out on cocaine. His first publication was about cocaine. He liked it so much that he freely gave it out to his friends. He used it for a very very long time. This is more than enough to explain the crazy shit he theorized.
It seems the spread of secularism and atheism has the opposite effect on people. It doesn't make them "more" educated and they don't care about actual science. Neo-atheists are dragging us back to the dark ages!
Joe please consider inviting John McWhorter onto your show! he is a linguist professor at Cambridge who as of late specializes in this topic even stating his intentions to write a book on the parallels to religion. i know you would love to hear his takes he is a very interesting and articulate figure
Stop racism by hating everybody equally.
Been doing that for years....F 'em all and I'll care for who I choose
Wait Al had a kid? Lol.
The definition of racism is when you believe one group is superior to another .. so if you hate everyone equally, then it’s not racist
lmao DONE!
Didn’t expect to see someone who speak my language in the comment section! Preach that bro!!
“Some religions look up. Other religions look down.”
So powerful.
I feel like this is what separates religions that are nearly cults (Mormonism, Catholicism if we’re being real) from healthier religions (Buddhism?, some parts of Christianity, eastern religions, I’ve never heard a bad thing about Judaism). Of course every religion has the good and bad churches and groups but I feel like there really is a significance to the looking up vs down, which could double as shame or focusing on hell rather than heaven.
@@ellabiddy4741 Any religion has potential for personal growth, as well as abuse. The trick is to (like you've noticed, and as was stated in the video) turn their teachings on yourself, not on others. History has records of Buddhists using their beliefs to justify war and oppression. Judaism is the cause of the decades long Isreal-Palestine conflict. Nothing is perfect.
@@ellabiddy4741 there has been millions of catholics who refused a comfortable life for a life of commitment, I think the problem is hypocrisy more than looking at good or evil. It is good to fight evil and it is evil to don't look for good. Picking evil in others to place hate on them is evil but if one fights evil in himself should also point it out to others in private so they can learn from it and see it doesn't come from some form of envy. That's my take on it.
@@ellabiddy4741 You haven't heard a bad thing about Judaism because it's well guarded secret that will cost your livelihood to discuss. Judaism teaches that Jesus Christ is boiling in excrement in hell and that Mary was a whore and is filled with filth like how a 3 year old girl's virginity will keep coming back to her.
@ellabiddy4741 Buddhism is certainly not all good (has problematic elements - translation for wokies). The extreme discipline with the brushing and whipping with sticks and all that side of things just does not look healthy for the mind, it's like OCD! Also did you know that Buddhist temples keep a elephant chained in them (look it up) who is really depressed because he can't go anywhere and never gets company. Temple elephants is barbaric to me
It’s refreshing to see the comments & how there are actually people who see through this
Thats what they want you to believe, that common sense is the minority...while they cheat the vote.
See though the woke BS of this video ?
Yeah but how long do you expect that to last? Picture the life of a 2020 newborn. 1/2 the parents will teach them this SJW/BLM/Antifa bullshit, 100% of public schools now teach nothing but this bullshit, 100% of universities are obsessed with this bullshit, 100% of paper media pushes this bullshit, 95% of TV media pushes this bullshit, silicon vally is all about the bullshit, EVERY day truth tellers & opposing views are scrubbed off Facebook, Twitter, RUclips etc, & 1/2 the government has put their power towards growing this brainwashed selectively outraged disingenuous movement. Your optimism is misplaced. We. Are. Fucked.
Yea
@@TheFreshPeddler wtf lol that make no sense. For what vote were just talking people and their ignorance
'Let he who hasn't sinned cast the first stone' - JC
These cancel culture people think they're all flawless individuals. The arrogance is ridiculous.
For if our flaws were all you saw oh god, who could stand
Your avatar is hilarious lololol
Gospel of John, Chapter 8, Verse 7 " He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her"
Andrew M. are you without sin as well for judging those who judge?
Topher Zajic that story has context and it’s even disputed as being in the earliest versions of the text. But here is some context that you missed in the story. It says she was caught in the act. So where was the man who was caught with her? Jesus in this story and during his ministry was showing the unjust way that man rules himself. The hypocrisy of enforcing the law on the woman but not the man she was caught with is problematic. He would not partake in the sharing of the hypocrisy and affirming the injustice of only punishing half the party to this condemnable sin. If this story is even true which is up for debate. It is not in the oldest texts so it may very well be an addition.
Cancel culture got tunnel vision too, almost all they do is zero in on specific faults they have the strongest grievances over, cannot see the light sides of someone else, etc.
This whole segment actually gives me anxiety. Last year I had a major argument with a friend about how all white people benefit from systemic racism, and I tried to explain to her about my poor Eastern European background, how my great-grandparents were in labor camps etc., literally had nothing to do with colonialism as far back as our records go, but she still insisted myself and my ancestors are part of a privileged class and always have been and that I was inherently racist. Because of skin colour. She was my friend for over four years and had succumbed to this religion and I couldn't bring myself to speak to her since. She was a really close friend but I just can't be friends with someone who insists I'm racist when I'm not. I am extremely hurt and enraged and genuinely offended on behalf of my ancestors whose deep struggles under Communism and Nazism doesn't "really count" because of their skin colour. Where was white privilege when they were shoved in trains and dumped in Siberian woods? Fuck.
Ah, yeah. This happened to me too where my friend for about 15 years cut me out. He got married to a sjw and I expressed my displeasure of the kneeling during our national anthem. We didn't get in that big of a fight but it did spill over into some pretty contentious text messages. Also, I been called a 'white man' by my step sister and my aunt because I didn't agree with this religion. I've heard stories of people being kicked out of their social circle because they didn't convert to an activist. Seriously, you're not alone and a lot of people have been labeled a heretic.
Is this friend US-american? They do not understand any other society dynamic than black vs white. That makes them struggle with Europe's history of diverse racisms and privileges
What we’re seeing today is a magnified expression of the “Tocqueville Paradox.” Freedom from scarcity and general improvement of social norms have given people the luxury to find increasingly trivial things to complain about.
Good times make weak people
That make bad times
That make strong people
That make good times
Rinse and repeat
Which is why elitists are the center of this stink.
Yeah. How many people truly care about the hot button issues like BLM or transgenderism or what pronouns are okay? A lot of people are just trying to make it day by day. Most political “activists” don’t have a day job. They don’t have the concerns of being a regular person.
This is exactly what Sweden is going through and has been for a while. Its been too good here for too long. But im afraid that's gonna change quite rapidly
LEFTISM IS A CULT AND EVERY CULT END'S THE SAME WAY = LEFTISM IS A DEATH CULT
"I'm not racist."
"That's exactly what a racist would say."
That's basically their game.
It follows that the actual non racist should reply to accusations like that with - yeah, I’m racist. That’s the logic on the left.
The either want to recruit you as a hammer or mark you as a nail.
I get called Racist all the time...I just laugh ...They want you to react..Thats why its so common to attack someone based on theyre race...I dont even entertain it because once you start to try proving to them your not a racist you have all ready stepped in the shit...
I am racist, and so are you.. we all are
Yeah, its a game with rules rigged against you.
Its the only game you can win by not playing, but how can you win by not playing, when those setting the rules are closing in on things you can use to escape from their insanity.
We live in a time when millions of people are going mad, and so many of then have gone mad that they find someone who ISN'T mad and they say, "You are mad because you are not like us!"
We have reached the ultimate stage of absurdity where a group of people are held responsible for things that happened before they were born, while another group of people are not held responsible for what they themselves are doing today.
@Mercb3ast imagine if you just robbed me but nobody cared because you had the right skin color.
@Mercb3ast imagine knowing people's family history better than they do without ever reading a book.
@Mercb3ast Imagine you're Lefty who never makes his bed and never cleans-up his mess, then blames everything on everyone else.
@Mercb3ast dont even try with these people... They already got their conclusion set even thought they're too pussy to say it clear and directly. They think black people are inherently worse than white people hust look at the original comment. Clear as day.
@@Julez60 wow just being mean and nasty now.
My friends used to have this dumb game where we’d tell somebody “I think robots are trying to take over the world. Are you a robot?” Then they’d say “no” of course. Then we would say “that sounds exactly like something a robot would say”. And it would continue so nothing they could say or do could sway us from “believing” that they were a robot.
So safe to say I’ve seen this game before.
This sounds like a dumb game..
Finish the god damn story.
Was you a robot? And if so how did you change back to human?
@@ryanpotochnik1374 exactly what a robot would say.
What you've seen is first how dumb people can be second how powerful believe is. M k
Damn robots, stealing our jobs!
I honestly just think that being an extremist in anything is bad
Being left or right is retarded. It means you have a dogmatic position on the issue before you ever heard a question. I'm glad you get it.
I'm an extremist of respecting women
@@AWES0MEDEFENDER Hahaha what does that even mean???
Wow, what a hot-take!!!!
@@theoriginaltommysteward respect wahmen
It is so nice to have a level headed person on the show. This guy is so smart, and rational. We need more people like him.
Jeremey Allen, it really is a breath of fresh air. Jim’s a great dude, I’ve known him since he was a teenager.
I read this comment, nodded and agreed. Scrolled down and the recommended next video is an hour long...
*JRE on aliens (compilation)*
Jimmy Shaker the irony of your comment. Your a white Mail !!!!!!!!! lol stay woke
What scares me is people like him are being systematically kicked out of university’s
There are a lot of people like this guy, but they don't get the attention.
Love that trudeau thumbnail. Indians totally clowned on him for being fake lmao .
Didn't get him that seat on the UN security counsel.
I think hes about to eat some serious shit at some point to over this WE charity hook up he tried to give himself and a few buddies
Kevin Longan i don’t think he’s much more than a try hard drama teacher. He isn’t meant for politics but I doubt he’s some Epstein.
lol all of canada laughed at him for it also
Why hasn't anyone called Trudeau out on his many, many scandals?
You know, his divorce, the fact he has been hiding out in his home by himself for months under the lie of a 14 day quarantine first, then another lie after that.
He shut down democracy in Canada, tried to take unlimited power, twice, bought off the media and only answers prescreened questions from "approved" reporters.
If you see this comment, please, say something. We need help in Canada. We are trying to get the word out but nobody cares.
He just has the 5th ethics scandal in 5 years!
He ordered his attorney general to interfere in a court case against a huge liberal doner and when she refused he fired her.
Three or more black face scandals. Accusing India of inviting a terrorist to a dinner on his India trip when he was the one who did it, along with the embarrassing cultural appropriation of Indian dress the whole trip.
He has assaulted women, physically and sexually.
Our media does not care! People refuse to hold him accountable.
Canada needs help!
We are tweeting away, trying to get attention to this massive problem. Spread the word please.
Thank you.
We are seeing the modern equivalent of book burning. Removing media is book burning.
Mesican feminists conducted an actual book burn in 2019
The example I love, is how these devotees are tearing down historic statues - and I'm reminded of the Taliban demolishing the ancient, priceless, Buddhist statues in Afghanistan. Simply because the statues were offensive to Islam.
I'm disgusted by anybody who seeks out history to destroy it.
@B Basen do you prefer to honour men who assualt pregnant women? I don't. Kinda not sad when they die, tbh.
There's an inherent difference between going out and burning original scripts Vs media companies not wanting host certain opinions on their platforms.
@B Basen pretty much every single statue has a placque explaining it's existence, the art of the statue grabs your attention and then you learn from it. Saying statues teach nothing is idiotic to say the least.
"they are actually wrestling with their inner demons"
"Cult-like indoctrinations....in thought processes and implementations"
That is such an amazing way to explain what seems to be happening!!
Absolutely spot on!!
I don't recognize this America anymore. We are all human and share the human experience regardless of what skin color we have. Thank God slavery has ended in the United States and slowly over the years equal rights have been extended to all. All of a sudden (media 2020) we are being made hyper aware that people of color are extremely different from white people, a separation narrative is happening, that we must accept their struggles and differences. My father is black, my mother is white, I am mixed. Let's continue to move forward with progression in the human race, not divide everybody out into groups.
You're mixed and your mother and father never told you stories of their different upbringing? You're mixed but speak in astonishment of the racial conflicts that play out in our world today? You're mixed, but said "All of a sudden (media 2020) we are being made hyper aware that people of color are extremely different from white people, a separation narrative is happening, that we must accept their struggles and differences." WHAT?
So either you're mixed and prefer your white half over your Black half, have never spoken to your father, OR you're just a white person who's TRYNG to sound neutral in fear of your comment coming off as bias or one-sided.. Hmmm
"I don't recognize this America anymore."
So you're old enough to remember what America WAS like during another era/time? Can you tell me what that America was like for people of color? I'll wait.
Should be interesting to read you going back in time reminiscing of the great ways colored people were depicted, viewed, and treated. And the further your stories date back, the better the situations were for people of color, correct? I'll wait on this answer as well.
You’re absolutely right. The left wing media has created this racial divide and the democrats are encouraging it.
I know, right?
And we are all from Africa.
The premise that ultra "woke" people are just projecting their own racist thoughts is pretty interesting and makes sense.
How does calling out racism make you racist?🤣🤣
@@thebakery3996 Because what the ultra woke calls out bears no similarity to racism.
@@thebakery3996 you're hopeless. Have you ever even been to the hood?
@@thebakery3996 Perhaps similarly to those who are the most homophobic turning out themselves to be homosexual. The lady doth protest too much me thinks after all.
@@thebakery3996 the almighty racism
Justin "Idk how many times I wore blackface" Trudeau
LEFTISM IS A CULT AND EVERY CULT END'S THE SAME WAY = LEFTISM IS A DEATH CULT
@@robot336 leftism? Dude cmon.
Phix, then do something about it
@@moart87 someone will eventually.
And we re elected him too :,(
There's an old saying here in Spain "Dime de qué presumes y te diré de qué careces", which roughly translates as "Tell me what you brag about and I'll tell you what you lack". It means, more often than not, the thing people brag about is precisely the thing they either lack or feel insecure about. You brag about your confidence? Odds are you aren't that confident. You brag about being a badass? Odds are you are anything but. You brag about how tolerant you are? Odds are you're the most intolerant asshole anyone could come across.
Fantastic comment. Well typed.
My Spanish teacher in HS told us about that saying. It comes to mind often when I scroll through facebook. It's one of those things that stuck with me throughout the years.
I think this is called "projection"
Also, don't forget about the phenomenom called "furor del converso". In Spanish Inquisition times, the most vicious Christians persecuting Jews and Muslims usually had Jewish and Moorish ancestry. Once you change boats, you have to be most radical in order to convince your new friends. So many of those obnoxious male feminists are that way because they used to be creeps who harrassed women and now they pretend all men are like they used to be, they need to compensate their past.
Girls, if you meet an over the top male feminist, run.
Man I need to brush up my Spanish.
I’m so glad that I grew up in the 70’s! No social media. No cell phones.
And here you are. Barely hanging on to life and posting a comment
@@dub7088 What an ugly thing to tell someone.
@@steamedclam1 What's happening here is a critique of the irony that is op's comment. Clearly Op has embraced 'social media' to be posting comments on Joe Rogan.
And a lot more privilege at the time. 😉
Ditto
:44 "Retro-cancellation" might be a result of social media. Before this tech, a kid's transition to high school or college was a chance to grow, shed an old identity, and actualize other aspects of their personality. Social media anchors a person's self-concept within a specific group of peers and makes it more difficult to grow beyond old friendships and to transcend past identifications. The extension of the person's early social groups through social media fixes their identity over time. Just a theory.
I'm an atheist and I can assure you: religion isn't the problem, ideology is. Those fundamentalists types are exactly the ones who are ideological about religion.
And in politics it's the same.
As a evangelical I agree with you. ‘Merica is the true religion of so many evangelicals. They mold their faith to fit their true values.
Absolutely. If you treat politics or religion like a sports team, in the sense that yours is the best and everyone else sucks, and your "team" can do no wrong and you will ignore or defend any wrongdoings of your "team", you're part of the problem.
LEFTISM IS A CULT AND EVERY CULT END'S THE SAME WAY = LEFTISM IS A DEATH CULT
It’s all about the ideology of collectivism vs individualism and its manifesting as this problem now. But its been 99% vs 1%, blacks vs non blacks, our team vs your team, etc
MC's Creations Fuck dude you nailed it! Christ be with you 😂
6:12 My black friend once told me that there is "invisible racism" that he personally has never experienced but he KNOWS is there. It was the most idiodic thing Ive ever heard
Makes sense to me. Clearly u r white
@@pejpj2890 That sounds pretty racist to me. You just assuming my skin color like that
Like there isn’t “invisible racism” with white people. Lol walk into china town, you know what I’m talking about.
But we only think people are being racist against us, when for the most part they probably aren’t.
Everyone stereotypes and everyone has a bias. It's just a human condition to recognize patterns or trends. But I certainly do not think that translates to racism. Today, everyone is throwing that word around like it's nothing.
See if he wants to buy a rock that makes him impervious to tiger attacks.
My parents grew up in the Soviet Union, it's very eerie how similar it all is to their stories. What you're seeing now is a prelude to something infinitely worse.
The only thing that has any chance at stopping it is if normal people continue to openly discuss its blatant logical fallacies and abuses.
But these people realize that, which is why the thing they attack first and foremost is all freedoms of expression.
Whatever you fuckin do, DO NOT STOP TALKING ABOUT THIS SHIT. Be precise in your speech, but do not shy away from it or it'll get worse than you can imagine.
You want to get real controversial? This sort of political religious indoctrination/interrogation didn't start around race. It started around sexual orientation.
What do you mean?
Jean Claymore he’s talking about the normalizing of gender dysphoria
Doom Sausage But gender dysphoria has nothing to do with sexual orientation?
@@DoomSausage1 No, he's talking about the gay acceptance movement in the late 80's and early 90's, where certain myths like sexual orientation is exclusively a hardware issue and that the gay community does not account for a massively disproportionate amount of HIV cases became dogmas that cannot be questioned even today, doing so would get you to be de factoed labeled a homophobe. Gender dysphoria is the same movement (LGBTQ) but in a later stage, and curiously it is beginning to turn unto itself gnaw at its own tail quickly becoming aggressively anti-gay. Should be a warning to all these loons that are touting the BLM movement, because the fact this starts as a pro-black movement does not mean that's how it will end up when it's all said and done.
Adrian Arenas How could sexual orientation be a software issue? Are you referring to stuff such as “Trauma with A -> I am now exclusively attracted to B” or am I missing the point?
This is whats truly scary about this kind of thought. It requires complicity to avoid persecution and at the same time defines any criticism as evil. Its impossible to argue against effectively.
Let’s also never forget that Mr. Krabs sold Spongebob's soul for 62 cents.
Look Squidward, money
That crab supremacist
LEFTISM IS A CULT AND EVERY CULT END'S THE SAME WAY = LEFTISM IS A DEATH CULT
Epstein didn't kill himself, and Mr. Krabs sold Spongebob's soul for 62 cents. Both very important things to remember!
@@robot336 so isnt rightism it's all the same bullshit tribalism.
It's coming from kids. Kids interacting with adults on social media.
So true
Exactly they are learning " facts from places like tik tok or you tube adults"
Kids having kids used to be the prevailing theory.
Sounds about right.
Lol dumb
Herein lies the sad paradox that they may never realise: In psychology and in buddhism the way forward is about forms of acceptance. The premise of this movement is based on rejection. The more you try to squash something the harder it bounces back, like a spring. Sadly they may end up fuelling the very thing they fear the most. The reactionary movements may be worse than what we are seeing now.
Hugging the "demon" with compassion is what lessens it's power. Fight the demon and it grows stronger and stronger. Sad times.
So if I'm in a room being asked to interrogate my racism, I should say "ohhh I know this one, I studied it in Scientology!"
Dude. That's excellent!
Reminds me of this folk tale but there's no shame at the end:
"Old woman!" A boy called. "Come and show us how wise you are!" Holding a bird behind his back so no one could see what was in his hands, he walked triumphantly to the wise woman's home. He would ask the woman whether the bird was alive or dead. If the woman replied, "alive," he would crush it with his hands and prove her wrong. If she answered, "dead," on the other hand, he would pull the living bird from behind his back and allow it to fly away. Either way he would prove his point and the wise woman would be discredited.
The boy called. "Is the bird I am holding alive or dead?"
The wise woman paused for a long moment while the boy waited with anticipation for his opportunity to prove her wrong. Again the woman spoke calmly, "The answer, my young friend, is in your hands. The answer is in your hands." The boy realized that the wise woman had once again spoken correctly and truthfully. The answer was indeed in his own hands. Feeling the bird feebly moving in his hands as it tried to escape his grasp, he felt suddenly very ashamed. Slowly and gently he brought his hands to the front of his body. Looking into the eyes of the delicate bird he apologized, "I am sorry little one," and he opened his hands to let her go free.
We’re moving quickly to the Chinese social credit system...I’m scared. 😦
Absolutely. China is the role model we will be rebuilt into, it's been planned for a long time. Then eventually reduced to a hunger games society of absolute poverty for everyone except the elites. Get ready for universal basic income which will be a poverty level amount. Food will be rationed in a so called effort to reduce greenhouse gasses...we will be given a daily caloric amount....not kidding. Listen to Rosa Koire talk about Agenda 2030 and sustainable development....she has read all of their documents and spells it out in black and white. Terrifying stuff
China owns the USA. Fact. Sorry.
@@amytrumbull156
Not wrong.
@@JB-1138 I know that now.
That will be the end of freedom. It’s coming fast and is nearly inevitable unless something drastic is done.
lol this dude looks like the love child of Brett Weinstein and Tim Poole
Lmao spot on
Tim Pool?
Haha, well spotted!
From the thumbnail i thought it was Tim Poole. Put a beanie on him and they'd be twins.
Doesn’t Care skeleton! Oh common now lol
As a firm catholic, this guy is absolutely correct. In the Catholic Church these huge variation on individuals and how they view sin. The ones who’re always focusing too much on their sins can turn on their own brethren and become like the Pharisees. As many church fathers have pointed out, it’s important to cleanse ourselves of sin. Be free from its clutches, but at the same time, Our focus should be on Christ and his loving redemption and his infinite mercy. A core tenant of our faith is that EVERYONE can be redeemed IF they choose the path of righteousness. We also aren’t supposed to judge others as not everyone is on the same “level” as you. Not everyone is born a saint. In fact many saints were at first great sinners.
I'm an ex cult member and it's all extremely triggering. There's tons of overlaps to cultic psychology.
I was also raised as a Jehovah’s Witness and resonate with this HARD CORE. When the BLM stuff first started happening I went to hang out with my progressive friends in LA and they literally used the same arguments and tactics that JW’s used when I was in the church. It was scary af.
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Calm down get same things from conservatives
Glad you noticed that. Turns out BLM also was started by a ex witness. Just another cult. Look it up.
John Mcwhorter, Colenan Hughes, or Thomas Sowell, all would be amazing guests in times like these. Intelligent voices for the conversation of today
RandomMan absolutely
Or Walter Williams
Unfortunately, Thomas Sowell is quite old. As brilliant as he is, and as much as a 50, 60, or even 70 year old Thomas Sowell could have helped in this situation - he's 90 now. We should leave the man alone.
Glenn Loury would be top of my list. Shelby Steele, too.
larry elder, or jess lee peterson
Ghislaine Maxwell didn't kill herself
I respect the early prediction.
Hunter derochie Is Vegas taking bets as to thr date she will be suicided!
Not yet
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She is spreading out the orange jumpsuits around her cell first.
It's about control... It's that simple.
And therefor fear.
This guy is smart. He sees through the whole thing, he even sees their motivations, like they’re struggling with their own racism and they project it on everyone else. I hadn’t seen it that way until now and it’s a powerful revelation
The one comeback that might work in the “then you must be a racist” trap is... “I don’t care,” and repeat it to them with every counter question.
Dude, I’ve said exactly the same thing for years! Morons obviously wield that word like it’s the most powerful weapon that they can use against white people, and you can see white people getting defensive about it and squirming in a weak way. Just say “don’t care.”
See how that worked for Carl Benjamin (Sargon of Akkad).
I think it is time to turn 'racist' into a good word. It is like being a 'specialist' in races. "Hell yes I'm a racist! I love all races! I love them so much I have a keen interest in them having amazing lives full of love and happiness.'
@Mai Nyigguh 😂😂😂 comment of the day!
As a former Jehovah’s Witness I cant believe the similarities between cancel culture and disfellowshipping, AKA excommunication.
It's almost like all cults share a similar modus operandi.
Ferocious Mullet Yep. It’s called the BITE model.
Fellow exjw shoutout to you man
As an ex-witness myself, I agree fully. I've been drawing comparisons for people since all this started.
I'm also baffled that my sister, an ex-witness, has drunk the koolaid of SJWism completely, and sees no irony in it whatsoever. (She's also "disfellowshipped" me for not agreeing with her dogma. We haven't spoken in months.)
SeedsOfHatred That’s really sad to hear. You may have, like myself, read books on cults and how they work. The majority of people who escape a cult or high-control group typically just wind up in another one to fill that void in themselves. We have a huge mental advantage with our earned wisdom after waking up from the witnesses. Most people in the world do not have that advantage, and it’s showing unfortunately.
The “admit your racist or else. It’s only a formality” is literally the act of apostatizing like what’s portrayed in the movie Silence about the persecution of Christians in Japan, when they wanted the priests to, as a formality, publicly denounce their faith under the threat of violence to maintain a lockdown of their ideology on Japan. It’s the exact same thing.
Its also the same as saying, "admit you're a sinner or else. It's only a formality." Or does it not apply to *YOUR* religion?
I've never been coerced into saying something I didn't believe.
@@FormerPessitheRobberfan I agree that all religions have historically created a lot of problems, not because religion is inherently evil, but because people are stupid and use their religious beliefs as a cover to act horribly towards other humans who don't have the same beliefs.
unfortunately by its nature religion creates a conformity of thought that doesn't really match the principles of a free thinking and open society. However, a free thinking and open democratic society can be fine allowing religious people to exist, if that society is predicated on freedom and encourages different schools of thought to create a vibrant marketplace of ideas. The problem with humans and religion is that for many of us, once religious beliefs become strong enough, we're not content with allowing different schools of thought to exist, and we begin using bully tactics, mob shaming, fear of reprisal and violence to enforce our beliefs on everyone else.
that's when religion becomes a problem, and for me the woke school of thought - with its cancel culture movement causing real world problems for those who think differently and its inability to understand or tolerate any different points of view - is absolutely becoming a real religious threat to our free and open society, just like Christian fundamentalism has created problems at various times in our history and Islamic fundamentalism has traditionally been a problem for women's rights. As a liberal myself I'll always be against this kind of stuff, because practicing tolerance for different viewpoints and respecting debate and exchange of ideas is a cornerstone of liberalism.
I am an ex-Jehovah’s witness and am so glad to hear Joe say this. I felt the same way about this movement, it has all of the cult hallmarks, just like the cult I was raised in! Also, yes, there are both healthy and in unhealthy religions.
What James is describing is the old Aesop's fable of the emperor's new robe. The Emperor was sold an invisible robe (systemic racism, white privilege and victimhood) by scam artists which was spun of magic gold cloth that only the wise (woke) can see. Everyone in the court wanted to please the emperor as he was a tyrant, and they also wanted to be seen as wise by other members of the court so they all lied and pretended to see the invisible robe and told the emperor it was a magnificent robe. The emperor paraded around the capitol buck naked while everyone pretended to be wise and exclaimed to him how amazing the robe was. One day a beggar came to the city and saw this parade, a naked emperor, everyone pretending he has a robe on, and the beggar laughed loud and hard and exclaimed, " the emperor is naked"! Upon this, the crowd laughed with an uproar and pointed at the emperor mocking his nudity. Point is very clear in this story. What is not clear is this, it took a bum who cared not what others thought of him to speak the truth everyone already knew. Todays society is full of yes men and court jesters who pretend they see
When he described the brown fragility part it reminded me of when I was in a race class in college. I was the only person who questioned the teacher and I almost felt like if I didn’t agree to it then the whole class would think I am just stupid. I realize now that my college took part on this cult idea.
You took a race class in college?!
How do you like working at McDonalds today?
@@karlbjorkquist7489 ask your manager.
Yeah this guys knows whats up, its all so silly godamn
Prime sheep 🐑
Higher Frequency toxic narcissistic sheep 🐑
One of my best friends is a black man from St. Lucia. Once we were in a lineup at a fast food restaurant in a mostly white town. My friend got into a very nice conversation with two random white elderly adults in front of us. He happened to need to use the washroom and they didn’t realize I was his close friend while looking like a typical white man in line.
When my friend was in the washroom the white older people kept saying “You see you can’t just judge people because they are black.”
It was extremely unintentionally racist, and when my friend returned and it became obvious we were friends, the elderly couple became frozen in fear in spite of literally never saying a single bad thing.
Spot the problem?
Yeah, guilt for having an outstanding life changing epiphany.
This whole episode is great. James put into words the same thoughts I've been having for the last few years just much more intelligently. Glad I'm not alone
I get where you're coming from. Years ago, it struck me that Fascism was NOT a right wing movement. It didn't make any sense to say that when you looked at it closely. I thought that this just couldn't be and that I was the only one who thought this way. So, I kept learning about it and had to conclude that I'd made the proper assessment and, to my surprise, that I was NOT alone. It sure took a load off my shoulders.
I work for a big company in Canada and this has been included as part of our curriculum at work. God forbid someone disagrees
So disagree
@@Trent330iyou can’t cause you’ll get fired.
The word “whore” comes from the Germanic word “khor” which means “lover.” In England when the Romans were occupying, the language was a mix of Germanic, Saxon, Gaelic, and Latin. Latin was considered high speak, for the aristocrats, and the peasants and lower echelons of life spoke Germanic and Gaelic. So when they used the German word for lover to describe your girlfriend or wife, it was most definitely an insult.
Speaking of the origins of words.
“You never hear of racist Indians”
Jesus Christ how has joe never heard of the caste system in India smh
You're right. Asian countries are usually the most racist. But Joe was probably using Indians in America as his reference when he said that. Indians in America are quite progressive and accepting of people regardless of caste or race.
They both completely ignored it
@zx82 what about it ?
@zx82 accepting people based on religion ? India has accepted religion of the entire world. Everyone is welcome. You won't find a more hospitable country.
@zx82 you are being fed with a lot of bullshit from BBC I suppose. I live here amongst lot of muslims .. there is no lynching. Few cases has happened in the past but it has happened on both sides.
8:16, it’s exactly like that part in Animal Farm when the sheep start confessing to stuff they didn’t do and get slaughtered.
Very interesting.
Totally culture. The same experience if you have lived abroad. And I have lived in many nations as a woman. It is about openly expressing how you feel and your friend helping you understand. Even then it takes 6 months to a year to become integrated into the culture.
I went into this video thinking “oh god here’s another All Lives Matter white guy pretending he’s not racist and spouting all this bullshit.” After I started watching, I quickly realized that this guy is saying exactly what’s been going through my mind this whole time. I can’t believe how cult-like all this wokeness is. I’ve always been pretty against organized religion, and I think he is right on the money getting to the root of the problem, which is human nature needs that void filled with something, and indoctrination into a “Cult of Wokeness” is what we see happening now. I always considered myself a pretty liberal lefty and adamantly anti-racist, but when everyone calls you racist just because you’re white (regardless of your background and upbringing), you start to believe it no matter how “woke” you think you are. It’s a competition. It’s a religion. Holy shit it’s a disease.
This is exactly what I needed. Major thanks to James and Joe for this talk!
I went into this video thinking “oh god here’s another All Lives Matter white guy pretending he’s not racist and spouting all this bullshit.”
It seems the "cult of wokeness" has already worked on you. A smaller degree than others perhaps, but if at any point you allow someones color (or any other identifier), dictate how you approach a person's position before hearing it, the cult has already turned you into a bigot, towards the group the cult (in this case the woke cult) has approved.
Yeah, you’re already pretty close to being in the cult, guy. Your absurd bigotry going into the video is only partially redeemed by your change of heart after watching.
You my friend are garbage.
Girls: how do boys know so much about pointless topics
Me : *joe rogan*
aka any topic other than the tv show friends or make-up
Me: yikes
Uh this isn’t pointless pretty important and people need to put an end to it
@@SNNetwork it was a joke pipe down
you: haha look at my dumb maymay format
me: haha let's perpetuate it until every person with an online presence is a drooling idiot
It’s not even about the morality of any particular issue, it’s about the ability to use it as political currency whenever expedient.
They want to confess their own sins, but they want others to repent for them..
I love that "Looking up/looking down" comment he made.
Really interesting point by James Around a person starting the concept of example 'white fragility' because they 'pdon't want to be alone' in having these thoughts. Quite similar base to the psychology 'unwanted thoughts'
Was literally just thinking about the whole cancelled thing
“Joe really needs to get James Lindsay onto his show again...”
- Me 3 Days Ago
Joel D Jim needs his own podcast.
Did I miss where Justin trudeau was in this clip?
He wasn't, at I couldn't find him.
Just a perfect pic representing a woke sperg
@@rustyshackleford7265 that's an understatement!
If you are that disappointed.
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@@rustyshackleford7265 Love the name!
Is there some sort of place you go once you get cancelled? Bet there's a lot of interesting people there.
You become a conservative, because they're the only people nowadays willing to discuss things and give you a fair hearing
@@benjamin8459 not much of a difference tbh
Yeah. You move to a red state. To a red town. And then you keep it red.
Just gonna say, people haven’t become less religious and more rational without traditional religions. They’ve just started worshipping anything. At least traditional religions worship what they think is the ultimate reality of the universe. Seems a bit more worthy of worship than identity politics.
Thirty years ago, I was having a conversation with an African American co-worker who we were on pretty open-minded and friendly terms with (we didn't "hang out" outside of work--neither of us tended to mix work people into our social lives outside of it all that often--but we did have a familiarity and mutual respect that, had we known each other OUTside of work, it probably would have manifested as a friendship, if you can follow). He straight up asked me: "Do you think that you're a racist?" I replied as honestly as possible: "In sociology (at that time), a racist is defined by enacting power over someone else, determined on the basis of race. Since I have basically no power in this world, I'm probably not very racist." But I also didn't let myself off the hook. "I would follow that up by saying that pretty much all humans in society--any society--are brought up with prejudices and begin to process their attitudes based on those developed prejudices. As a white person, those prejudices we get brought up with usually take the form of some kind of bigotry. Sometimes, I can think them, but can catch myself so that I don't say or act on them. I'd say that's most of us that don't WANT to be bigots or racists, no matter what we were raised with, or what the world taught us to believe or say. Sociology (at that time) calls that 'Timid Bigotry.' So, I would say, maybe I'm not a racist, but I do recognize I could still have some bigoted tendencies, that I at least try not to act on. And I'm working on that."
His response: "That..is an answer that I can accept. Because you were honest about it, and you didn't justify it. And you recognized it's a learned thing we can at least hope to learn our way past." He also found it intriguing to recognize that all of us grow up developing "group-based" prejudices (you can spot African-Americans ready to shit on whites, or latinos; whites who are ready to shit on...everybody else, right down to which religious denomination or ethnicity; and to this day at my current work-place, I watch latinos ready to shit on other latinos: Cubans who shit on Dominicans and Puerto Ricans; Puerto Ricans who talk a LOT of shit about Mexicans; Mexican-Americans born here who shit ALL OVER Mexicans who weren't and came here...) We ALL grow up developing some really fucked-up in-group exclusivity prejudices. And we all have a lot of learning and evolving to get past them. As a white person I do have the honesty to recognize this--history will still demonstrate that, as a Whitey: Whitey got some breaks sometimes, just by being Whitey. And our forefathers set up a society where the more you looked and behaved like Whitey, the more breaks you might get. Let's not lie to ourselves about that.
Thanks, and I appreciate and took the time to read your comment. I'm going to write a long reply, in agreement. I know absolutely that where I grew up in the midwest, had I had black skin and made the same idiotic choices as a teenager and young "adult" I would have had a drastically different life trajectory. All the times I was given a pass, for vandalism, drinking, weed, general mischief, given probation for minor shoplifting, etc?.?. If I was from the other side of our very segregated small town I would have been in the system as a juvenile and doomed to a permanent criminal record as a minor. All this said, cancel culture is so harmful and insane. I'm an advocate of relaxing a little and allowing people not to be perfect. I think everyone should be able to fuck up when they're young, and still have a chance at a decent life. People grow up, stop acting out, and mature. Holding anyone to a perfect standard, or a different higher standard because of skin color, is where systemic racism is perpetrated. It sets some people up to fail, because nobody is perfect, and young people are often stupid. Retroactively requiring all people to have been perfect in the past isn't the answer either. EDIT: spellin'
Im not gonna read that.
So i am sorry that happens to you.
Or
I am happy for you too.
the church of wokeness would just be a bunch of lesbians wearing dungarees and watching amy schumer
And Jaden Smith posting confusing tweets
@@Duffman19370 no jaden is different, he is a philosopher
Actually they wouldn’t approve of Amy Schumer because she has done something called (white signaling) which is signaling to a group of non whites that the main person of importance being Amy is signaling white dominance over the other. But yea the first part you said was super funny.
@@amandahannoon7864 whoever it would be they wouldnt be funny
wanted to like but it was on 69 likes soooo
I never used to think about race, now it’s on my mind a lot through the day. To an unhealthy degree. And it’s because of ID politics. I’m so sick of it.
Well sorry you have to think about race. As a minority we have to think about our race all the time.your poor little mind
One of the main reasons this is all coming down the pike is because the invisible "we" have so many outposts like Twitter, Facebook and RUclips to voice our opinions, right or wrong and we can hide behind a veil and never be made responsible for what we say. Some people or organizations seem better at collecting their sheep. We are so brave when we stand behind an army of invisibility.
Thank god for brave and intelligent people like you!
Just don't play their game and there's nothing they can do.
Yep..that's my stance now. Treat their accusations of racism as you would an Evangelist knocking on your door trying to convict you of sin.
Thats what I been doing for years if they call me a racist I agree with them. The face people make when you start agreeing with them while they try to put stereotypes on you is classic.
Werideplaces “yeah im racist, just ask my black friends” is a good one
Werideplaces the word racist holds not weight anymore so when people call me racist simply for having a different opinion I just go with it
People that point fingers are deflecting attention from themselves.
people that point fingers always have three pointing back at themselves
More often than not yes
People that say “people pointing fingers are deflecting attention from themselves” are deflecting attention from themselves.
Alan Watts was the first thinker to introduce me to the "Double-bind". I think it was originated by somebody called Bateson who theorized that it had connections to schizophrenia. The 'damned if you do, damned if you don't" feeling would eventually explode in the victim.
I was in a cult, so I know this feeling well.
Thank you for that info, ended up looking up "double-bind" and it's super interesting.
One of the best but also most terrifying conversations on this channel.
Robyn Deangelo is like a fundamentalist councillor at a gay conversion camp, because she’s in denial, about being gay.
Plus her names actually Karen and she wants to speak to the manager.
I’m in Australia, Caucasian, I work with Aboriginal People, experiencing Mental illness, as a Registered Nurse, Specialising. I have seen so much. I understand Mental Illness in a different way now. It should not even be called an illness but a natural reaction as a product of environment.
Fly me up Joe, it’s my dream to talk on your show.
Awareness is knowing that melanin is one of billions chemical reactions in a humans body. How does that make anyone different? Despite the way we treat each other. Respect and Education about inter generational trauma is important.
Bump
I really thought I cracked the code equating wokeness to religion but apparently I'm not the world's first thinker
Wow, same
We must be living the same life lmao
The Inquisition is alive and well.
So James Lindsey said Jonathan Edward’s preaching led to the Salem Witch trials, but those trials were before Edwards was even born 🤦♂️ Your point is well taken though in that inquisitions are part of human nature (gone awry) & not limited to outwardly organized religions!
No-one ever thought about Indians being racist??
Read up on Ghandi’s views of Africans Joe
Gandhi doesn't represent India in any way, shape or form. He was a lucky guy at a lucky time and place to fit perfectly into a propaganda that made him a hero. That's all.
all of this is literally what Yuri Bezmenov has warned us about for SEVERAL DECADES yet only now people are starting to catch on
Putting my thoughts into words he is. Gratitude for the intelligent analysis
"No one ever thought that indians in india are racist..." . Joe you need to go out more. There is evidence that the Indian caste system was originally based on racism. No country is impervious to racism because they are naturally tribal.
Caste system was based on discrimination not racism
It is totally true though. Prople here in India still lookdown on people with slightly darker skin. North Indians look down on South Indians because the southies are darker in skin even though southies outperform them in everything and havemuch better metrices than them. Fairness Creams are still a billion dollar industry. You see little to none dark skinned actresses representation in Bollywood. Ironically these woke actresses who speak of equality and diverse representation are the ones who endorse fairness brands. It is still very common to reject a girl just beacuse she is slightly darker in complexion and quite common to say it to her face with no regards, it is such a passive normal thing to do. And Many Indians in India especially (maybe due to ignorance or in some cases innocense )still use the N word and says that with such disgust as if they are the nastiest to look at in vanity point of view. So, I always tell Indians to not be hypocritical when judging the west. This is not just in India though the whole of Asia thinks the same. It is intrensically in their societies. I mean look at how Korea, China and other east asian countries look down upon the darker skin tones, you can see it with in their cultural references. But I think it is not entirely their fault either. All the Asian Countries are Insular societies inhabiting their land for thousands of years and it is very difficult to challenge the views that were passed down for thousands of years in societies that live in a bubble. This is being addressed in the US and in some Westerns countries because they are much more multicultural and very inclusive societies especially the US beacuse it was a country that basically is created on meritocracy and hence it is always encouraged to challenge the views, irrespective of how old they are or how they were presented.
I bet his last guest would cancel anyone that questions the global warming alarmists narrative.
When ever you start a comment with "I bet" you should immediately go sit in the corner with the sjws and re-evaluate.
@@jayc5373 I think you do mate
tomorrow Florida go blup blup underwater
@@Roni24mamba and nothing of value was lost
Jay C virtue signaling
Substituting "dogmatic" for "religious" in the conversation seems to make it a bit more coherent.
Most people and groups are dogmatic, but some people will use underhanded, psychological manipulation and guilt to push their dogma onto others--that's the difference.
This is the most calm discussion I ever listen to 🤣😂
That is terrifying... I barely notice people in general. I can't imagine noticing things like that it would drive me nuts. Maybe I'm just really self absorbed but I never notice people like that in anyway. I grew up in blackwood NJ right near south philly so there were all kinds of different people.
7:00: As an Indian male, this can't be *further* from the truth. Lol there are some people in my circle that would make Richard Spencer sound PC and blush. I've also been pressured my whole life by family and friends to date exclusively white girls and eventually marry one. And now tbh I subconsciously find myself ignoring non-white love interests in favor of white ones
I was looking for this comment. I'm black and I fuck with Indian people but I'd be lying if I said I didn't feel like I was getting looked down at. It's definitely a problem but I'm not asking anyone to go to brown fragility seminars.
@@avoidantbehavior while it's sad to hear about that, I'm glad you're conscious of this toxic mindset. For me personally though, I've developed close friendships across all races. Ironically I really don't have any close Indian friends outside of family friends I have to tolerate lol.
It's just the subconscious bias I have when it comes to choices of romantic partners. I just consistently find myself dropping/avoiding girls abruptly who seem like great gf material in favor of white girls, who I find myself to have sadly low standards for. I.e. the closer in melanin level they are to Harley Quinn, it seems the less reservations I have for commitment irregardless of other factors lmao.
Not white but fair skinned. Just a correction
It's really sad that Joe's reacted with "serial killer" to someone that takes notes at church. Plenty of people do that. It's totally normal
It was also obviously a joke.
@@ktoth29 to be fair, jokes aren't Joe's strong suit.
I love how you guys on the right totally forget about the conservative cancel culture throughout the 80s and 90s with music and video games. I'm neither liberal or conservative. Both sides are jokes and forget pretty easily of the past.
Well that crusade was led by Al and Tipper Gore so it was actually a bi-partisan effort. It really shows how much the political spectrum has shifted in 30 years. Both equally ridiculous, but the left has left a lot of us in the middle...
@@ekohsports2254 thats the thing i feel both sides are just trying to get rid of people who are in the middle and force you to pick a side. Its like thier is no such thing as a conservative liberal or a liberal conservative in thier eyes anymore. Its either your for all of our parties views or your against us.
That was the Christian right, a faction of conservatives, and they lost because back then the media and the entertainment industry resisted them. Its not even comparable to today where the BLM cancel culture is backed by corporate America and one whole half of the political class at least. It is the establishment now. And as previously pointed out there were those on the left like Gore and Clinton who tried to play into that stuff too.
I swear it always seems to be a case of "the right can be wrong. Or both sides can be wrong."
For some reason the left can never be wrong by itself... Odd isnt it?
@@JDela10 Christian conservatives have ruled the US since its inception. You don't actually think Clinton and Biden are on the left, do you?
The Kafka Trap at around 6:20 is classic.
It's terrible. There is no end to this.
I don’t understand how all lives matter is racist? Why is black power not racist?
BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T HAD YOUR RIGHTS VIOLATED FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS
@@maticlee8535 No one has had their rights violated for hundreds of years, no one lives that long. This is identity politics the morally insane idea that someone can owe a debt for something someone else did or conversely be owed a debt for something that happened to someone else.
Hearing a atheist say looking up is the best way is refreshing. I believe is something greater and looking up is growth. I never thought i would hear that from a atheist
this is something i think about a lot, in the 90's it as the christians who were trying to cancel people and get tv shows canceled by writting the network
@@barbiebarbiedollclub5556 its just crazy how we are actually calling the divide "sides", Crazy times indeed.
The main difference being that 90s Christians tried to cancel Beavis and Butthead and millennials are trying to cancel racism.
The tides reversed. Neo-atheists are now society's religious fundamentalists.
Smoking Crab well they was no internet to weaponize then, writing a letter is a lot harder
Did they ever succeed at any of it? Was the movement that big? Did they destroy statues illegally? I played magic the gathering a card game, the have literally cancelled ten cards, there is white and black magic and some white cards a say to destroy black cards. Christians did get one card art changed and that’s it. Was there ever any time someone in 90s succeeded at anything? Look how many people get fired over old tweets, how many comedians are blacklisted cause of it. It’s not even in the same ball park.
I would like someone to talk about the language of 'I'm not comfortable' as a power play. It's a way of taking the power as your conversation partner has to stop what they're doing to 'make you comfortable'.
Freud was constantly whacked out on cocaine. His first publication was about cocaine. He liked it so much that he freely gave it out to his friends. He used it for a very very long time. This is more than enough to explain the crazy shit he theorized.
This is the new generation. They have nothing in their life/not focusing on themselves. Also social media is an addictive tool.
It seems the spread of secularism and atheism has the opposite effect on people. It doesn't make them "more" educated and they don't care about actual science. Neo-atheists are dragging us back to the dark ages!
Jim Jones was woke
Me : you can’t fly
Joe : humans can fly
Me : ah yess humans can fly
hi Brendan
Interesting that he brought up Freud just as an example. Jung went into depth about the issue they were discussing... PROJECTION
Joe please consider inviting John McWhorter onto your show! he is a linguist professor at Cambridge who as of late specializes in this topic even stating his intentions to write a book on the parallels to religion. i know you would love to hear his takes he is a very interesting and articulate figure