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As a collegiate track coach that has trained people to lower their 40 yard dash times before their NFL combine and Pro Day, I disagree that track doesn’t make people faster. The fastest NFL players typically ran track too. It seems that best high school football programs are linked to good track programs.
My coach for track was a distance runner. He had a team meeting once. He told everyone that "god made sprinters, i make distance runners." Statement was so true
@@97ejohnsonhad a coach line that. Never spent time developing sprinters. It was not just until years after high school that I found out he was a distance runner in college.
Lots of NFL stars and legends ran track at the highest levels. Bob Hayes, O.J. Simpson, Deion Sanders, Bo Jackson, Darrell Green, Herschel Walker, Willie Gault, Ollie Matson, James Jett, Ed Reed, Johnny Lam Jones, Ron Brown. The list goes on and on.
Tyreke Hill, Lamar Jackson and Christian McCaffrey were voted as the three best players in the NFL - all ran track in high school. WTF is this dude talking about???
@jb44448 sometimes I have to wonder. How in the hell did deion Sr. run a 4.2 and all his kids are slow compared to dad. I don't even think shilo runs a 4.5. I heard a track coach say God makes sprinters. I believe that. Either you got speed or you don't
@@ceejay7803 Both sons are taller and stockier than their father so you have to factor those attributes into possibly limiting their speed relative to his. Deion had a rare ability to get near max extension on his knee drive and incredible ground force strike on each stride. He was extremely flexible. Not sure if he did certain exercises growing up or naturally gifted
Mr. Brown, math is not your friend. If an 11 second 100m runner gets better by 5%, that would result in 10.45 second 100m. That good runner is now fighting for a state title. 23 second runner who gets better by 5% is now a 21.85 second 200m runner. A 50 second 400m runner would become a 47.50 second 400m runner. Even a 4.50 40 yard dash runner becomes a 4.275 40 yard sprinter. Mr. Brown, a 5% improvement is significant.
5% is a great improvement. You ignored the first thing he said though. Speed is something you either have or you don't. It can be improved, which I think is true, but it can't be taught, which is the debate. His son's aren't fast though, so in that regard I think he made the right decision. I'll build your bodies so you're ready for your sport of choice, instead of spending time in an area that ultimately won't help you.
@@mavs4life248 The father took a position on an issue and I countered the words he used. I did what I was suppose to do in showing that 5% is a big deal. By profession, I am an attorney and words matter. I also ran track in high school and early in college. My 15 year old twin sons both qualified for the 2024 Junior Olympics in Greensboro, NC. I defend track and you are free to take a position of your choice. But, once again, words matter.
This all i have to say .. The glory days of The U , FSU and USC Football ( I could be missing other Schools) half of team were are on Track and Field . The U one year had Moss , Johnson , Buchannon , Portis , Davenport , McGee , Reed ( I cant confirm if he did the Field or both) all ran . It was benefits for sure
Tyreek was a juco national champ, big 12 champ, a WORLD junior bronze medalist in the 200 and a WORLD jr gold medalist in the relay... he was serious on the track
I kind of disagree, you can train in other sports to help you out in your current sport. For example: my daughter is a softball player but i put her in track for 2 years to help her with her running mechanics. Now she’s a beast running bases! Jerry rice took ballet lessons to help him with his route running and some amazing catches the way he torqued his body Hakeem olajuwon had GREAT footwork in the NBA because he had a soccer background
I have coached track for 33 years. My thoughts are that any athlete should start and learn track and field, build a foundation. As I tell all of my athletes and parents. There is no silver bullet for speed but I have had 10 year olds that have run since 5-6 and they will beat most high school athletes and especially in football. I don’t believe that athletes should play football till their bodies are more mature, late middle school or high school. Football speed is not track speed. This isn’t just about speed but the fundamentals of running period. Mr. Brown and football coaches are much of the reason why kids don’t want to run track.
Bob Hayes won 2 sprint gold medals at the '64 Tokyo Olympics. His speed at WR for the Cowboys brought on the advent of zone defense in the NFL. And he's got a SB ring, '71. O.J. Simpson played football and ran track at USC. In '67, his 4x110 yard relay team set a world record of 38.6 sec. If his family was better off financially, he would have had a shot at making the '68 U.S. Olympic Track team, went pro instead. First to rush for 2K in a season, did it in 14 games. Both in the HOF. I think Jerry Rice is the best example of what football speed looked like. Coach Walsh was wise to enhance the West Coast offense to take advantage of his skill set.
Bob Hayes was legit. His 9.9 in the 100m would be near world class today. And today he would have better training, better gear, and better running surfaces. So, he would likely be a world class sprinter today.
What he's not explaining right is football is quickness and explosiveness like soccer. While track is pure speed, which distance vs time it takes you to get there.
Never seen a 280 lb man of pure muscle tackle Usain Bolt and give him a concussion either. There are many advantages of being in track over football. Protecting your brain is one of the big ones.
@@pglanville Its not. It even happens at lower levels of D1 track. I ran track with Dominique Rodgers Cromartie. He was a 1st rd draft pick at CB. He ran track, but only came to meets and he won the conference 60 meters at indoors.
Don't let this distract you from the the fact that in 1966, Al Bundy scored four touchdowns in a single game while playing for the Polk High School Panthers in the 1966 city championship game versus Andrew Johnson High School, including the game-winning touchdown in the final seconds against his old nemesis, Bubba "Spare Tire" Dixon.
Agreed. However by running track I was able to learn the proper way to run and therefore save turnovers made by my team from being a touchdown because I was effective at chasing down the return
Areynold let’s break it down for them because no football player can beat 17 year high school Christian Miller!!! because no football player can beat 16 year-old Quincy Wilson football players are slower than track runners naturally
Cali=Qbs & WRs, from time to time a RB. TX is all around they produce every position, but he is right in South FLA they use make the kids chase chickens and jack rabbits so alot of skill players come that area.
Running track is beneficial for all kids including kids playing football. It's good to train in more than one discipline. Many great football players ran track as kids and in HS.
New age of speed development is upon us. Old-school track coaches meant well, but didn’t have the same level of nuance and speed development understanding. Today is a much better time for football players to run track.
I’m a HS football and track coach and that’s terrible advice. Recruiters always ask the skill position guys do they run track because they want to know they are working on their speed. A recruiter told our WR/DB he is power 5 if he had better top in speed. Also you used the opinion of Mr. Brown to make this point but what about all the skill guys in the league who did run track in high school. The hard part about track for football kids is getting uncomfortable. Some of them look fast on the field but the clock don’t lie. Good athletes aren’t scared to get uncomfortable and be challenged at something hard.
He has a point but I totally disagree with him. I ran track and played football in high school in the 80’s. Our track coach was the football coach. He didn’t have much of a track coach background but we did go to state and won a lot of races. You do have to be talented to do either one. I agree with that as well. I would add if the individual wants to run track let him do so. Thank you for keeping track alive for us old dual sports guys! 🏃🏾♂️🏈😜👊🏾❤️
Totally agree with the point the coach makes about training in the of season. I am a track guy who never played organized football. I also I was a sprinter who ran cross country as well. However I will add this. I lifted weights all year round. When I got to college I would have football players tell me to try a walk on when we would be in the weight room. Great topic 👍
As a 20 year vet sprint coach in track I completely agree. Run track if you like running track. I watched Christian McCaffrey play football, basketball, and run track. He did it because he enjoys sports and competition. If you want to work on football you have to work on football.
Speed training and weight lifting don't need to be separate. You do both. Speed training is different than running fast. You need to run 95% to 100% with lots of rest. But in football you need to be fast and be able to decelerate. Track builds top end speed foundation great for young athletes
I can watch a high school football game and can tell who runs track and who doesn't. Track/football players look effortless when they run. Regular football players look like they struggle running during conditioning
Great advice for the 0.001 percent of football players who will have a career in football. For everyone else who wants to explore their abilities without the threat of CTE, and maybe want to learn to relate to people outside of the football community, play a second sport. When you don’t make the NFL, and you have to go into sales, law, teaching, et cetera, that broader perspective is way more valuable.
The Ivy League shows bro. You handled that. When I was deep in MA, I would run, work technique but when an event comes up by the second round of the fight the gorilla on my back had me questioning being a champ. I am going to make it through because I am good but whatever I am doing is gas guzzling. Respect for the 12 round stamina people. Memebrr Jack Johnson's era 100's of rounds....
I remember I went to go try track and quit you realize the speed is different and running on the track is different from the field speed is a gift but football you can use 🧠
I ran sprints in HS. We would lift weights at 6am before school 3x during the week, track after school. Always felt good, and felt like I was still getting effective work in. Track taught me how to run, 37 years old, still a runner. Football specific training was in the weight room and summer workouts, but running track built my mechanics and running engine.
I played football, wrestled, ran cross country, and was on the track team. Football camp is typically during school break. Track season is right before summer. There is no conflict in time. There is no overlap and track athletes do work out in addition to conditioning depending on the events. A lot of assistant coaches from the football teams coach track. There is no incentive for an NFL player to run track. There is no money in it and why risk their bodies. The football players that have any kind of draft stock aren't running track. Skilled positions are the only players that have the speed for track. They also tend to have the shortest shelf life. Putting extra wear on the knees and ankles is a risk. Deon Sanders career was shortened by a turf toe injury. It just doesn't make sense to run track for a football player.
Without Olympic Gold there's no living to be made in track. Even then endorsing companies only care about gold medal speedsters. The rest get regular jobs.
Maybe football players don't run track these days, mainly due to specialization, but back in my day it was like the two went hand-in-hand. In my home state of Texas, former NFL first rounders such as Curtis Dickey, Johnny "Lam" Jones, & Eric Dickerson were all former high school sprint champions. Dickey, who was a star running back @ Texas A&M, also won 3 consecutive NCAA 60-yard dash titles & finished 2nd in the NCAA 100-meter finals in '79. OJ Simpson, Cliff Branch, Darrell Green, Herschel Walker, Willie Guaut, Bo Jackson, et al, were all prominent track athletes as well as great football players. And NEVER forget "Bullet" Bob Hayes, who held the title of the "world's fastest man" after winning the gold medal in the 100-meters @ the '64 Tokyo Olympics and who later went on to a HOF career w/the Dallas Cowboys. I think the "over emphasis" on year-round football training has had a HUGE impact on the football/track star.
I would say for young athletes having a year of track in your background is definitely good same as any fighting discipline makes you a well-rounded athlete to have more skills but at the pros unless you're freaking nature you have to specialize in the sport you're playing
Your breakdown of your first track meet is hilarious and at the end when you done you done 😂. My belief is there is no one system that works for everyone, track brings out character and toughness that many kids that only play football will never have, track brings out that never quit mentality, it also shows that over the course of time with training and discipline you can become great On the other hand some kids not made for track, so training most the year for football and adding strength training at the correct time with the correct fundamentals can sometimes be more beneficial, but you can get great results both ways, no system is better than the other some kids will succeed in both and some kids will flame out without great results in either system You can say you think working out for football only is better system, but you will remember for the rest of your life, we best in the nation 4x400 and set a national record, that alone he should realize the greatness of what you accomplished By the way you still made it to the NFL and had a decent career as well.
I always prefer that the football players not run track. Track should be reserved for the serious athletes that specialize in track. Football players tend to run track to stay busy in the spring and it’s usually the football coaches forcing them to run track. There is plenty of football speed camps these days that can make the football players faster without interrupting the track teams.
I agree. When 7 on 7 was introduced I was a summer track coach. The older children were usually worn out once they arrived. 7 on 7 killed summer track.
@@wilburhoffman5510 Long time sprint coach here, I agree. Soccer, Football, Volleyball are playing nearly year around between club & school teams and skills camp. I focus on people who want to track and let others be. If you want to run track you will and if your other sport coach discourages it oh well. I've not witnessed track creating deficiencies in football athletes but have seen quite a few athletes have their careers decline or end over football injuries. Coaches play a big role in steering athletes away from track for fear of losing them, ego or thinking I need more time to develop this person. Anyway, have fun coaching those wanting to be coached by you.
Michael Bates won a 200m bronze in Barcelona and went on to have a all-pro career on special teams. He was already a thick guy, even on a long sprint....he easily made the transition to the NFL. His speed and muscle (and toughness) is why he was a success
I love track, but if there's no defense involved, it ain't sport to me, it's competition. If we compete at different times, if I can't impede your progress, or I have to look at a board to see if I won, we're just comparing notes. Track, golf, weight lifting, swimming etc don't count to me
I will say track was a great supplementary sport. I wouldn’t run in the meets but I definitely would show up for practice. My ability to maintain my top end speed improved drastically.
@@dirtmike6258yea, but they play receiver, most of the times they are like 200lbs. u dont need to be that heavy to play receiver, but technique and speed are vital
You are one of the four fastest 10-year-olds LOL I love that he's so proud of that my little brother just sent me a message that said I still hold all the weightlifting records in my high school and it made me smile so big
Bob Hayes, Florida A&M football, gold medalist Olympic champ. OJ helped set a 4x880 record on the USC track team back in the 60s. Lyn Swann also USC could long jump 26.0' facts..
I would say that being sport specific in your training and focusing on being specifically fast twitch in the movements of your position is not wrong. BUT being so sport specific in your teenage growing years and through high school is part of the reason why we have so many non-contact injuries and much more muscle pulls and cramping. Cross training and working different muscle groups in other sports makes for a better healthier athlete able to adapt to situations that you did not necessarily train for.
NFL players or NFL prospects should train for track in football uniform…pretty simple. Do the exercises and training with the pads and ball in hand…don’t run to beat time, run to catch the ball. Get a coach, Get one of those machines that toss a ball to an exact spot on the field and keep trying to reach where that ball is going.
He was somewhat correct in saying that the coach and trainer will not make you significantly faster. But the slightest edge is what we are talking about. We are not talking about dropping 2 seconds off of a 100m. It’s .02 and the Olympic final proved that .02 was significant in that race.
100 percent agree out of high school I was a 10.3 runner I got that fast because I could always get rides to practice for track cause I had natural speed but football is so competitive u can’t outwork the athletes that put all their resources into ball
Most football players quit because the training can be brutal but you have to have love for it. In Az I would train at 4am to beat the heat. Never missed a workout
Before I became an OU football player, I tried to run track in HS. The bad thing about that was that my HS was renowned around the country and literally recruited kids out of the West Indies to run for us. We were winning Penn Relays and all sorts of games in the 80s. I decided to join the track team. I lasted two weeks. I simply couldn't take all of the running required of us at practice. It just wasn't possible for me. I knew there was a complete difference between football and track at that point. lol
After a committed football and wrestling season track season sucked so bad for me I only did it one year and I said F this I need a little time to myself. Wrestling season I wouldn't see a Saturday Sun until the season was over it, it was brutal but I love the s*** out of it
A 5% improvement for someone that runs a 4.7 is a 4.46. That is the difference between someone who is playing JV their junior year, and someone who starting on varsity their junior year. That’s the difference between being a 2/3 🌟 recruit, and a 0 ⭐️ recruit.
Cross Training is just fine If you want to increase Top End Speed and Straight Line Acceleration get on the Track If you want to increase explosive Football speed get on the football field It’s beneficial for track workouts to be a PART of your football training routine but it shouldn’t dominate your routine To be better at swimming, swim more To be better at baseball, baseball more So on and so forth
Facts, the dude that holds a lot of state records when I was in high school is from my school and he’s bigger than me now and I played Dline in college
When I was coaching track we had a running back on my team. He told me he was quitting track so he could work in his 40 time and play 7 on 7. I asked him what his 40 time last year before he started running track. He said 4.9. Then I asked him what his time was now. He said 4.6. I looked at him and asked, where do you think that 0.3 improvement came from? I shook my head and walked away from him.
It’s because anyone who can make money in track can make 10x more in football. You can get a gold medal and sponsors and only make as much as practice squad players
My 9, soon to be 10 year old has been running track and wrestling since he was 6… he’ll be better than the majority of his peers when he starts playing football in middle school… track develops the body. Period
Ran track and Played football in college. Track practice WACK ASF. All that damn running all to travel to a meet to run 10 and 20 seconds. 😑 then i realized D1 track is year round training. Nah im out, ill stick to football ✌
Two a days and sometimes 3 a day football practice is very demanding on the body and even more so pending on the position played. I play both sports and I can say without hesitation TRACK was tougher. Can't take a play off on track and expect to win. It's mental and physical conditioning.
i disagree and their a differences between athlete and as far a football goes positions. in position that demand acceleration and holding onto speed for a significant amount of time track and field is a great place to learn that. learning frontside mechanics, speed maintenance and just over all fitness nothing beats track and field training thus why guys who have a background in track are always much faster and can maintain that speed over all 4 quarters of a football game. the answers is yes you can teach someone to run faster ask Usian Bolt, although genetics play a role on how high that ceiling is.
Great origin story for track, it is an organic outbreak of human performance. Now do a similar story on the origin of football, a sport that was invented by guys who couldn’t keep up with the track athletes. Slow guy: “ok, we’ll race to the line, but I get seven guys to block for me and three more fast guys on my team so I don’t have to race their fastest guy. And we can throw it over them if we start losing.” Football is first an organizational game, with general managers and coaches playing as big a role as the athletes. That organization is part of the beauty of football, but it also takes away from it being a purely athletic sport like track and field.
Yea but like he said how much faster have u gotten in that time … u can get faster but ur not going to turn a 4 cylinder to a v8 lol n I think that’s his point
@@seantaylor6565right. But even a little bit of improvement can still make a huge difference. And you'd be surprised how much someone can improve. I've seen football guys run track and get their 40 from a 5.0 to 4.7. And seen some guys go from 4.6 to 4.4. Sure you won't make the Olympics, but that could be the difference between getting a scholarship and not even making a roster.
Yes, you are disrespectful to your first love! And i cant believe you are saying that given you ran for the Jets. I coached track for 30 years and football for 20 years, but i have to say, learning HOW TO run is a skill that is learned through participating in track and field. Learning how to run efficiently is a skill that has to be learned. Running fast is technical. I remember Steve Spurrier saying to me one time, Coach, we want them fast, not big. We cannot build speed, you can. And please don't forget, track athletes lift also. Shout out to FASST Track and Field Club. Home of Olympic 100m hurdle champion, Masai Russell. AND several NFL players.
Running track is beneficial for all youth athletes. If you become a Division 1 prospect I can see specializing your training for that sport. Even then you can do both, college will force you to do sport specific skill training only.
The Rest aspect is valid to a point. But the truth is a bit more complex. Track and Field develops more than speed, track (at the bigger meets) develops the competitor in athletes. How bad does the athlete want it. That translates to wanting it in the 4th Quarter. But put some Respect on Track and Field Athletes at all levels and events. Higher Graduation Rates, fewer social challenges longer seasons. If you know of a Collegiate All American in Track and Field that honor was earned by performance not based on a sports writers perspective.
Wouldn't it be better to have all American track and football on your resume than 7 on 7 title for college. What if a person can't afford a personal trainer or one on one coaching
I feel like my biggest mistake as a Hs football player was not training with sprinters. If you want to run faster you must run. If you want to jump higher you must jump. Not everyone becomes an Olympian. That’s genetic +work. But let’s not pretend a guy can’t run track, lift, and get skill work. We can go down the line if NFL guys who were state champion sprinters. Three legends of Bo Jackson, Prime to AD, D Jack, Bush all the way to Hill etc. Nothing wrong with multi sport athletes just because some guys didn’t/don’t run.
Some of the elite runningbacks Wideouts and defensive backs in the game ran track. Bo Jackson Deion sanders Christian Mc Caffrey DK Metcalf Calvin Johnson Terrell Owens Odell Beckham Devon Allen and least ran at this high school level and excelled at state championships while many others ran track even at the college level.
I disagree 100%. It’s not about making world class sprinters. It’s about becoming faster, learning how to run and control your speed. I’m a football player that ran track. The best thing I did. You should especially run track if are offensive/defensive backs.
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Different views there are levels of knowledge, When I played Football up till college you had to run track but 2 things can be true.
@marcelluswileydatdude just saw the LA Jets in regionals and Jr Olympics. They represented well but not like the Las Vegas Heat🔥🔥🔥🔥
As a collegiate track coach that has trained people to lower their 40 yard dash times before their NFL combine and Pro Day, I disagree that track doesn’t make people faster. The fastest NFL players typically ran track too. It seems that best high school football programs are linked to good track programs.
That's a fact
100% agree
You just contradicted yourself so hard in this comment 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@stevenmanson2490 How’d I contradict myself?
My coach for track was a distance runner. He had a team meeting once. He told everyone that "god made sprinters, i make distance runners." Statement was so true
Haha. I love that 💯😂
@@marcelluswileydatdude right? That’s spot on! 😅
Your coach is a truth teller
It’s actually false. He just didn’t know how to develop speed
@@97ejohnsonhad a coach line that. Never spent time developing sprinters. It was not just until years after high school that I found out he was a distance runner in college.
Lots of NFL stars and legends ran track at the highest levels. Bob Hayes, O.J. Simpson, Deion Sanders, Bo Jackson, Darrell Green, Herschel Walker, Willie Gault, Ollie Matson, James Jett, Ed Reed, Johnny Lam Jones, Ron Brown. The list goes on and on.
Tyreke Hill, Lamar Jackson and Christian McCaffrey were voted as the three best players in the NFL - all ran track in high school. WTF is this dude talking about???
.. and OJ Simpson and Earl McCullough ran a leg on the 440 relay team at USC that set the worldvrecord
@chrisgriffin9443 so did deion sanders. He won't recruit you at a skill position if you didn't
@@ceejay7803Shedeur must have been the exception. Dude is slow as molasses
@jb44448 sometimes I have to wonder. How in the hell did deion Sr. run a 4.2 and all his kids are slow compared to dad. I don't even think shilo runs a 4.5. I heard a track coach say God makes sprinters. I believe that. Either you got speed or you don't
@@ceejay7803 Both sons are taller and stockier than their father so you have to factor those attributes into possibly limiting their speed relative to his. Deion had a rare ability to get near max extension on his knee drive and incredible ground force strike on each stride. He was extremely flexible. Not sure if he did certain exercises growing up or naturally gifted
Mr. Brown, math is not your friend. If an 11 second 100m runner gets better by 5%, that would result in 10.45 second 100m. That good runner is now fighting for a state title. 23 second runner who gets better by 5% is now a 21.85 second 200m runner. A 50 second 400m runner would become a 47.50 second 400m runner. Even a 4.50 40 yard dash runner becomes a 4.275 40 yard sprinter. Mr. Brown, a 5% improvement is significant.
I think you took that too literally.
@@mavs4life248right lmao
5% is a great improvement. You ignored the first thing he said though. Speed is something you either have or you don't. It can be improved, which I think is true, but it can't be taught, which is the debate. His son's aren't fast though, so in that regard I think he made the right decision. I'll build your bodies so you're ready for your sport of choice, instead of spending time in an area that ultimately won't help you.
What state? Our girls run 11s
@@mavs4life248 The father took a position on an issue and I countered the words he used. I did what I was suppose to do in showing that 5% is a big deal. By profession, I am an attorney and words matter. I also ran track in high school and early in college. My 15 year old twin sons both qualified for the 2024 Junior Olympics in Greensboro, NC. I defend track and you are free to take a position of your choice. But, once again, words matter.
This all i have to say .. The glory days of The U , FSU and USC Football ( I could be missing other Schools) half of team were are on Track and Field . The U one year had Moss , Johnson , Buchannon , Portis , Davenport , McGee , Reed ( I cant confirm if he did the Field or both) all ran . It was benefits for sure
"student" athletes especially football probably takes up all their time, an seasons overlap. Coach not letting you don't either.
Facts!
Tyreek was a juco national champ, big 12 champ, a WORLD junior bronze medalist in the 200 and a WORLD jr gold medalist in the relay... he was serious on the track
I kind of disagree, you can train in other sports to help you out in your current sport. For example: my daughter is a softball player but i put her in track for 2 years to help her with her running mechanics. Now she’s a beast running bases!
Jerry rice took ballet lessons to help him with his route running and some amazing catches the way he torqued his body
Hakeem olajuwon had GREAT footwork in the NBA because he had a soccer background
I have coached track for 33 years. My thoughts are that any athlete should start and learn track and field, build a foundation. As I tell all of my athletes and parents. There is no silver bullet for speed but I have had 10 year olds that have run since 5-6 and they will beat most high school athletes and especially in football. I don’t believe that athletes should play football till their bodies are more mature, late middle school or high school. Football speed is not track speed. This isn’t just about speed but the fundamentals of running period. Mr. Brown and football coaches are much of the reason why kids don’t want to run track.
Bob Hayes won 2 sprint gold medals at the '64 Tokyo Olympics. His speed at WR for the Cowboys brought on the advent of zone defense in the NFL. And he's got a SB ring, '71. O.J. Simpson played football and ran track at USC. In '67, his 4x110 yard relay team set a world record of 38.6 sec. If his family was better off financially, he would have had a shot at making the '68 U.S. Olympic Track team, went pro instead. First to rush for 2K in a season, did it in 14 games. Both in the HOF. I think Jerry Rice is the best example of what football speed looked like. Coach Walsh was wise to enhance the West Coast offense to take advantage of his skill set.
Bob Hayes was legit. His 9.9 in the 100m would be near world class today. And today he would have better training, better gear, and better running surfaces. So, he would likely be a world class sprinter today.
What he's not explaining right is football is quickness and explosiveness like soccer. While track is pure speed, which distance vs time it takes you to get there.
Big facts.💯
No money in track. Simple.
Them niggas don't be track fast. They be HS track fast college somewhat track fast.
You become elite in track you will be a better athlete ... Make more money
@@jboogs49There is much more $$$ in NBA, NFL, Golf and Tennis not even close!!!!
Never seen a 280 lb man of pure muscle tackle Usain Bolt and give him a concussion either. There are many advantages of being in track over football. Protecting your brain is one of the big ones.
@@jboogs49Yeap guys like Deion Reggie bush etc
I ran track in high school and played football. I knew football players that ran track but they would only show up to meets and would win
😂😂😂 So true
This is cap.
Everyone must have been slow or white
@@pglanville Its not. It even happens at lower levels of D1 track. I ran track with Dominique Rodgers Cromartie. He was a 1st rd draft pick at CB. He ran track, but only came to meets and he won the conference 60 meters at indoors.
Don't let this distract you from the the fact that in 1966, Al Bundy scored four touchdowns in a single game while playing for the Polk High School Panthers in the 1966 city championship game versus Andrew Johnson High School, including the game-winning touchdown in the final seconds against his old nemesis, Bubba "Spare Tire" Dixon.
Football speed and track speed are not the same. He makes a good point.
Agreed. However by running track I was able to learn the proper way to run and therefore save turnovers made by my team from being a touchdown because I was effective at chasing down the return
@@KevinDumas-m2d cmac Reggie bush Ted ginn
@@KevinDumas-m2dyupp I can agree u hawked ppl down with ease wirh correct runnin mechanics
Areynold let’s break it down for them because no football player can beat 17 year high school Christian Miller!!! because no football player can beat 16 year-old Quincy Wilson football players are slower than track runners naturally
While different, track will make you faster.
I disagree I'm from South Florida and all the skill players run track in highschool and we produce more D1 and NFL players than anywhere else .
Texas is #1. Bigger state. More talent.
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It debatable between Texas, Cali and Florida. I think Florida produces the most skill players.
Cali=Qbs & WRs, from time to time a RB. TX is all around they produce every position, but he is right in South FLA they use make the kids chase chickens and jack rabbits so alot of skill players come that area.
Running track is beneficial for all kids including kids playing football. It's good to train in more than one discipline. Many great football players ran track as kids and in HS.
Speed is genetic. You can’t create speed out of thin air, but you can build a better football player.
New age of speed development is upon us. Old-school track coaches meant well, but didn’t have the same level of nuance and speed development understanding. Today is a much better time for football players to run track.
As a “new school” head track coach , this is the most accurate comment!
I’m a HS football and track coach and that’s terrible advice. Recruiters always ask the skill position guys do they run track because they want to know they are working on their speed. A recruiter told our WR/DB he is power 5 if he had better top in speed.
Also you used the opinion of Mr. Brown to make this point but what about all the skill guys in the league who did run track in high school. The hard part about track for football kids is getting uncomfortable. Some of them look fast on the field but the clock don’t lie. Good athletes aren’t scared to get uncomfortable and be challenged at something hard.
In the old days, you would play all sports, including track,your speed can enhaned.Track makes you depend on yourself and focus
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He has a point but I totally disagree with him. I ran track and played football in high school in the 80’s. Our track coach was the football coach. He didn’t have much of a track coach background but we did go to state and won a lot of races. You do have to be talented to do either one. I agree with that as well. I would add if the individual wants to run track let him do so. Thank you for keeping track alive for us old dual sports guys! 🏃🏾♂️🏈😜👊🏾❤️
I love both, like you. But I see his point as well.
Totally agree with the point the coach makes about training in the of season. I am a track guy who never played organized football. I also I was a sprinter who ran cross country as well. However I will add this. I lifted weights all year round. When I got to college I would have football players tell me to try a walk on when we would be in the weight room.
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As a 20 year vet sprint coach in track I completely agree. Run track if you like running track. I watched Christian McCaffrey play football, basketball, and run track. He did it because he enjoys sports and competition. If you want to work on football you have to work on football.
Is John brown right? No… is there some truth to what he said? Yes
Speed training and weight lifting don't need to be separate. You do both. Speed training is different than running fast. You need to run 95% to 100% with lots of rest. But in football you need to be fast and be able to decelerate. Track builds top end speed foundation great for young athletes
I can watch a high school football game and can tell who runs track and who doesn't. Track/football players look effortless when they run. Regular football players look like they struggle running during conditioning
Track and Field doesn't generate as much money as the NFL. Thats why. Even the elite track athletes arent making as much as mid tier football players
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Absolutely. Coming from a track runner
Well. Track teams here are full of football players. We have the most D1 football players
Track training will make you fast and protect them hamstrings from injuries
Great advice for the 0.001 percent of football players who will have a career in football. For everyone else who wants to explore their abilities without the threat of CTE, and maybe want to learn to relate to people outside of the football community, play a second sport. When you don’t make the NFL, and you have to go into sales, law, teaching, et cetera, that broader perspective is way more valuable.
theres only one reason, they're not fast enough and im pretty sure people were wrestling before they were racing
The Ivy League shows bro. You handled that.
When I was deep in MA, I would run, work technique but when an event comes up by the second round of the fight the gorilla on my back had me questioning being a champ. I am going to make it through because I am good but whatever I am doing is gas guzzling.
Respect for the 12 round stamina people.
Memebrr Jack Johnson's era 100's of rounds....
I remember I went to go try track and quit you realize the speed is different and running on the track is different from the field speed is a gift but football you can use 🧠
I ran sprints in HS. We would lift weights at 6am before school 3x during the week, track after school. Always felt good, and felt like I was still getting effective work in. Track taught me how to run, 37 years old, still a runner. Football specific training was in the weight room and summer workouts, but running track built my mechanics and running engine.
I played football, wrestled, ran cross country, and was on the track team. Football camp is typically during school break. Track season is right before summer. There is no conflict in time. There is no overlap and track athletes do work out in addition to conditioning depending on the events. A lot of assistant coaches from the football teams coach track. There is no incentive for an NFL player to run track. There is no money in it and why risk their bodies. The football players that have any kind of draft stock aren't running track. Skilled positions are the only players that have the speed for track. They also tend to have the shortest shelf life. Putting extra wear on the knees and ankles is a risk. Deon Sanders career was shortened by a turf toe injury. It just doesn't make sense to run track for a football player.
Without Olympic Gold there's no living to be made in track. Even then endorsing companies only care about gold medal speedsters. The rest get regular jobs.
Maybe football players don't run track these days, mainly due to specialization, but back in my day it was like the two went hand-in-hand. In my home state of Texas, former NFL first rounders such as Curtis Dickey, Johnny "Lam" Jones, & Eric Dickerson were all former high school sprint champions. Dickey, who was a star running back @ Texas A&M, also won 3 consecutive NCAA 60-yard dash titles & finished 2nd in the NCAA 100-meter finals in '79. OJ Simpson, Cliff Branch, Darrell Green, Herschel Walker, Willie Guaut, Bo Jackson, et al, were all prominent track athletes as well as great football players. And NEVER forget "Bullet" Bob Hayes, who held the title of the "world's fastest man" after winning the gold medal in the 100-meters @ the '64 Tokyo Olympics and who later went on to a HOF career w/the Dallas Cowboys. I think the "over emphasis" on year-round football training has had a HUGE impact on the football/track star.
I would say for young athletes having a year of track in your background is definitely good same as any fighting discipline makes you a well-rounded athlete to have more skills but at the pros unless you're freaking nature you have to specialize in the sport you're playing
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The NFL should reboot The Fastest Man Competition with Marcellus Wiley host 🏈🏃🏾♂️
These guys are too scared for that. They rather have Twitter Fingers.
Facts.
If you want your kid to have cte you know what sport to pick
Your breakdown of your first track meet is hilarious and at the end when you done you done 😂.
My belief is there is no one system that works for everyone, track brings out character and toughness that many kids that only play football will never have, track brings out that never quit mentality, it also shows that over the course of time with training and discipline you can become great
On the other hand some kids not made for track, so training most the year for football and adding strength training at the correct time with the correct fundamentals can sometimes be more beneficial, but you can get great results both ways, no system is better than the other some kids will succeed in both and some kids will flame out without great results in either system
You can say you think working out for football only is better system, but you will remember for the rest of your life, we best in the nation 4x400 and set a national record, that alone he should realize the greatness of what you accomplished
By the way you still made it to the NFL and had a decent career as well.
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NGL I had stopped watching your videos for a while bc I didn’t think it was your channel at first glance. The new thumbnail style is a MAJOR upgrade!
I always prefer that the football players not run track. Track should be reserved for the serious athletes that specialize in track. Football players tend to run track to stay busy in the spring and it’s usually the football coaches forcing them to run track. There is plenty of football speed camps these days that can make the football players faster without interrupting the track teams.
I agree. When 7 on 7 was introduced I was a summer track coach. The older children were usually worn out once they arrived. 7 on 7 killed summer track.
@@wilburhoffman5510 Long time sprint coach here, I agree. Soccer, Football, Volleyball are playing nearly year around between club & school teams and skills camp. I focus on people who want to track and let others be. If you want to run track you will and if your other sport coach discourages it oh well. I've not witnessed track creating deficiencies in football athletes but have seen quite a few athletes have their careers decline or end over football injuries. Coaches play a big role in steering athletes away from track for fear of losing them, ego or thinking I need more time to develop this person. Anyway, have fun coaching those wanting to be coached by you.
Michael Bates won a 200m bronze in Barcelona and went on to have a all-pro career on special teams. He was already a thick guy, even on a long sprint....he easily made the transition to the NFL. His speed and muscle (and toughness) is why he was a success
First time ive heard someone talk about how scarce and precious time when training for sport.
I love track, but if there's no defense involved, it ain't sport to me, it's competition. If we compete at different times, if I can't impede your progress, or I have to look at a board to see if I won, we're just comparing notes. Track, golf, weight lifting, swimming etc don't count to me
Great breakdown!!! 👏🏿
It made perfect sense on what he said
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I will say track was a great supplementary sport. I wouldn’t run in the meets but I definitely would show up for practice. My ability to maintain my top end speed improved drastically.
You nailed it! All the speeders I knew put on a ton of weight and the parents at the Summer league track meets are huge
It all depends on what position you play in football. He has a bodybuilder background. They really don’t believe in speed, flexibility and reflexes.
his sons have speed, flexibility, and reflexes ... he wants them to get bigger and stronger which will help them with their professional careers
@@dirtmike6258yea, but they play receiver, most of the times they are like 200lbs. u dont need to be that heavy to play receiver, but technique and speed are vital
My MS basketball Coach made us run track. Best thing ever. I ran with the cross country guys and it has blessed me my entire life.
You are one of the four fastest 10-year-olds LOL
I love that he's so proud of that my little brother just sent me a message that said I still hold all the weightlifting records in my high school and it made me smile so big
Bob Hayes, Florida A&M football, gold medalist Olympic champ. OJ helped set a 4x880 record on the USC track team back in the 60s. Lyn Swann also USC could long jump 26.0' facts..
I would say that being sport specific in your training and focusing on being specifically fast twitch in the movements of your position is not wrong. BUT being so sport specific in your teenage growing years and through high school is part of the reason why we have so many non-contact injuries and much more muscle pulls and cramping. Cross training and working different muscle groups in other sports makes for a better healthier athlete able to adapt to situations that you did not necessarily train for.
Track definitely helps with overall speed and athleticism for all sports
NFL players or NFL prospects should train for track in football uniform…pretty simple. Do the exercises and training with the pads and ball in hand…don’t run to beat time, run to catch the ball. Get a coach, Get one of those machines that toss a ball to an exact spot on the field and keep trying to reach where that ball is going.
He was somewhat correct in saying that the coach and trainer will not make you significantly faster. But the slightest edge is what we are talking about. We are not talking about dropping 2 seconds off of a 100m.
It’s .02 and the Olympic final proved that .02 was significant in that race.
100 percent agree out of high school I was a 10.3 runner I got that fast because I could always get rides to practice for track cause I had natural speed but football is so competitive u can’t outwork the athletes that put all their resources into ball
Most football players quit because the training can be brutal but you have to have love for it. In Az I would train at 4am to beat the heat. Never missed a workout
Before I became an OU football player, I tried to run track in HS. The bad thing about that was that my HS was renowned around the country and literally recruited kids out of the West Indies to run for us. We were winning Penn Relays and all sorts of games in the 80s. I decided to join the track team. I lasted two weeks. I simply couldn't take all of the running required of us at practice. It just wasn't possible for me. I knew there was a complete difference between football and track at that point. lol
Marcellus, you need to do voice-over for National Geographic or something lol
😩😩😩what!!!
@marcelluswileydatdude I meant in the beginning the way you were expaling the neatherdals running, it was hilarious, no disrespect!
After a committed football and wrestling season track season sucked so bad for me I only did it one year and I said F this I need a little time to myself. Wrestling season I wouldn't see a Saturday Sun until the season was over it, it was brutal but I love the s*** out of it
A 5% improvement for someone that runs a 4.7 is a 4.46. That is the difference between someone who is playing JV their junior year, and someone who starting on varsity their junior year.
That’s the difference between being a 2/3 🌟 recruit, and a 0 ⭐️ recruit.
Cross Training is just fine
If you want to increase Top End Speed and Straight Line Acceleration get on the Track
If you want to increase explosive Football speed get on the football field
It’s beneficial for track workouts to be a PART of your football training routine but it shouldn’t dominate your routine
To be better at swimming, swim more
To be better at baseball, baseball more
So on and so forth
Facts, the dude that holds a lot of state records when I was in high school is from my school and he’s bigger than me now and I played Dline in college
When I was coaching track we had a running back on my team. He told me he was quitting track so he could work in his 40 time and play 7 on 7. I asked him what his 40 time last year before he started running track. He said 4.9. Then I asked him what his time was now. He said 4.6. I looked at him and asked, where do you think that 0.3 improvement came from? I shook my head and walked away from him.
Port City Track Club.. skills do translate. Just got back from AAU T&F JO.. long days in that brutal heat 😅
My LA Jets were at Texas A&M too! Great job, making it there
So true
It’s because anyone who can make money in track can make 10x more in football. You can get a gold medal and sponsors and only make as much as practice squad players
Track can be used a a method for cross-training or general fitness for non-track athletes.
My 9, soon to be 10 year old has been running track and wrestling since he was 6… he’ll be better than the majority of his peers when he starts playing football in middle school… track develops the body. Period
Mr. Brown is correct!!!!! But track is the king!!!!!
Ran track and Played football in college. Track practice WACK ASF. All that damn running all to travel to a meet to run 10 and 20 seconds. 😑 then i realized D1 track is year round training. Nah im out, ill stick to football ✌
And you sucked at both, now get back to working before your boss fires you
True
I'm from Florida. I remember the LA Jets at Nationals. That red and white... Y'all definitely had some burners. Houston had fast cats too.
Two a days and sometimes 3 a day football practice is very demanding on the body and even more so pending on the position played. I play both sports and I can say without hesitation TRACK was tougher. Can't take a play off on track and expect to win. It's mental and physical conditioning.
i disagree and their a differences between athlete and as far a football goes positions. in position that demand acceleration and holding onto speed for a significant amount of time track and field is a great place to learn that. learning frontside mechanics, speed maintenance and just over all fitness nothing beats track and field training thus why guys who have a background in track are always much faster and can maintain that speed over all 4 quarters of a football game. the answers is yes you can teach someone to run faster ask Usian Bolt, although genetics play a role on how high that ceiling is.
Great origin story for track, it is an organic outbreak of human performance.
Now do a similar story on the origin of football, a sport that was invented by guys who couldn’t keep up with the track athletes.
Slow guy: “ok, we’ll race to the line, but I get seven guys to block for me and three more fast guys on my team so I don’t have to race their fastest guy. And we can throw it over them if we start losing.”
Football is first an organizational game, with general managers and coaches playing as big a role as the athletes. That organization is part of the beauty of football, but it also takes away from it being a purely athletic sport like track and field.
It’s false that you’re only born with it. You can focus on strength training and work on body mechanics/flexibility to increase your speed.
Yea but like he said how much faster have u gotten in that time … u can get faster but ur not going to turn a 4 cylinder to a v8 lol n I think that’s his point
@@seantaylor6565right. But even a little bit of improvement can still make a huge difference. And you'd be surprised how much someone can improve. I've seen football guys run track and get their 40 from a 5.0 to 4.7. And seen some guys go from 4.6 to 4.4.
Sure you won't make the Olympics, but that could be the difference between getting a scholarship and not even making a roster.
Let's get after it. Fast twitch and slow twitch muscles. Nuff said
Yes, you are disrespectful to your first love! And i cant believe you are saying that given you ran for the Jets. I coached track for 30 years and football for 20 years, but i have to say, learning HOW TO run is a skill that is learned through participating in track and field. Learning how to run efficiently is a skill that has to be learned. Running fast is technical. I remember Steve Spurrier saying to me one time, Coach, we want them fast, not big. We cannot build speed, you can. And please don't forget, track athletes lift also. Shout out to FASST Track and Field Club. Home of Olympic 100m hurdle champion, Masai Russell. AND several NFL players.
Respect big dog. I feel ya.
No disagreement, just preference
All this Trues .. but not for wide receiver and safety… here in Florida we do both .. depend on the position.. Deon Sanders .. Earnest Givens ..
Running track is beneficial for all youth athletes. If you become a Division 1 prospect I can see specializing your training for that sport.
Even then you can do both, college will force you to do sport specific skill training only.
The Rest aspect is valid to a point. But the truth is a bit more complex. Track and Field develops more than speed, track (at the bigger meets) develops the competitor in athletes. How bad does the athlete want it. That translates to wanting it in the 4th Quarter. But put some Respect on Track and Field Athletes at all levels and events. Higher Graduation Rates, fewer social challenges longer seasons. If you know of a Collegiate All American in Track and Field that honor was earned by performance not based on a sports writers perspective.
Wouldn't it be better to have all American track and football on your resume than 7 on 7 title for college. What if a person can't afford a personal trainer or one on one coaching
I feel like my biggest mistake as a Hs football player was not training with sprinters. If you want to run faster you must run. If you want to jump higher you must jump. Not everyone becomes an Olympian. That’s genetic +work. But let’s not pretend a guy can’t run track, lift, and get skill work. We can go down the line if NFL guys who were state champion sprinters. Three legends of Bo Jackson, Prime to AD, D Jack, Bush all the way to Hill etc.
Nothing wrong with multi sport athletes just because some guys didn’t/don’t run.
Excellent argument, but i would have to disagree. That 40 time just may be the difference in those D1 offers
Some of the elite runningbacks Wideouts and defensive backs in the game ran track. Bo Jackson Deion sanders Christian Mc Caffrey DK Metcalf Calvin Johnson Terrell Owens Odell Beckham Devon Allen and least ran at this high school level and excelled at state championships while many others ran track even at the college level.
True! And many more didn’t run track!
Keep the main thing, the main thing… everything is like an accessory that may enhance the main thing.
Bottom line; you can work to improve sprint mechanics/speed in track & field or with someone who knows outside of it.
Two different sports, train different. What are we talking about. Some guys want to run track, some guys want to play football. Do you!
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Marcellus makes sense, but I'm sticking with track on this one.
I loved Track and Field game back in the day.
I disagree 100%. It’s not about making world class sprinters. It’s about becoming faster, learning how to run and control your speed. I’m a football player that ran track. The best thing I did. You should especially run track if are offensive/defensive backs.
He is 100% correct.