Professional Genealogist Reacts - Is Pokimane Asian? I take a DNA test!
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- In this Professional Genealogist Reacts I watch "Is Pokimane Asian? I take a DNA test!" by Pokimane. Pokimane takes a DNA test with 23andMe and shows her ethnicity admixture results.
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People from Mediterranean countries being surprised that they have DNA from other Mediterranean countries makes me want to bang my head against a wall 🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻 Like bro just because it’s technically a different continent doesn’t mean they aren’t interconnected !!! Hell, Europe and Asia and Africa are all part of the same landmass!
Yeah lol, people still think there country existed for ever.
I mean they're american. Most Americans probably don't even know that Asia and Europe are connected
@@Deborah5000 Asia isn’t an island?
You can pretty much see Spain from some Moroccan northern coasts, it's crazy that they find it crazy XD
@@Deborah5000 Pokimane isn't American. She's Moroccan-Canadian.
Poki lives/d in the same house as several asian-americans, hence the "I belong in this house!" :)
When the moors were kicked out of Spain they mostly went to Morocco. When the moors originally arrived in Spain they mixed with the native Spanish women as they did not bring female moors so by blood they were very mixed Iberian. Which was brought back to Morocco.
You also have jewish spanish who fled from spain to avoid spanish inquisition 🤷♀️
@Carpe Diem the fuck bro, it's not mentioned anywhere
@@TheGrandy123 And Germanic tribes who traveled from Iberia to North Africa before that.
That's correct but not only morocoo also algeria I'm from algeria and DNA results show's 25% iberian 3% germanic and the rest is north african and something like 0.3% Nigerian but these low percentages tend to fade
or just Iberians who converted to islam, at one point, there was more than 5million muslims in iberia
I have a general maybe dumb question. My sister took a test, I was wondering if that would mean mine would or should be the same? Hers showed that we are part Japanese, other Asian and European.
They will likely be similar but they won't be the same. Siblings inherit different portions of DNA from their parents, so even though your sister has Japanese readings you may not have inherited those same blocks of DNA. In genealogy we even use the term evil twin to reference the idea that if you had a sibling who inherited all the DNA from your parents that you did not inherit.
@@GeneaVlogger interesting thanks. We do look a lot different. So I guess I need to find some money and do my own.
@@BruceChastain DNA kits sometimes go on sale during different parts of the year, so that helps.
I know this was an older question and it's already been answered I thought I'd add to that if anyone in the future needs more explanation. My brother and I have some similarities but also some big differences, my mum has 30% Swedish, my bro got like 22-24% of that from her, whereas I only inherited about 10-12% (I don't know how much of that is the same as his or different, obviously a mix but to what extent 🤷♀️).
As a way to visualise what is happening, think of two bowls of fruit with all kinds of different fruit in them:
Bowl A = 3 apples, 3 oranges, 2 plums, and 2 bananas;
Bowl B = 1 orange, 2 peaches, 3 kiwi, 3 strawberries, and 1 grape.
You both pick from the same available fruit 5 from bowl A and 5 from bowl B,
You get = 2 apples, 1 orange , 2 plums, 2 peach, and 3 kiwi.
Sister gets = 4 oranges, 2 bananas, 3 strawberries and a grape.
You've both taken 5 from each bowl but your fruit mix is very different (and the variety of combinations are many), some you picked are the same pieces of fruit, while in some cases one has all the fruit of one kind and the other sibling has maybe only one or none of that fruit.
Now imagine that the bowls are your parents and the fruit is their dna (each item of fruit is equal to 10% dna therefore 5 fruit from each gives you 100% of your dna), this is how two siblings can end up looking very different both physically and when it comes to genetic ancestry. This is also why sometimes it can be difficult to tell how far back a "full" ancestor might be, because if you inherited almost all of the dna of one type from your parent (like my bro with the swedish) as a standalone result it could appear that he had a fully Swedish grandparent (or perhaps two half Swedish great grandparents), when actually it's believed, from the work I've done on the tree, that his great grandparent who is fully swedish...on top of that, I have some Iberian peeping through (I think it was about 5%) that neither he or mum have; mine and my bro's results tell two different stories, so more info means you can hopefully get a fuller picture.
It's why I personally found it important to test both my bro and myself, and also my mum & her brother (I'd have done their half-sister too but she said no), because in our case, the siblings helped fill-in some of the blanks we have by not having both parents (my dad died before testing became viable and it was important to try and narrow down which side what comes from, but also we wanted to know both our maternal & paternal haplogroups). So, it's not essential to test all siblings, but it can really help but only if you can afford to do it (although I would say if you're financially able and both parents are around & willing then it might be better to do theirs instead - but only if the geographic ancestry/matching is the goal rather than what your own specific make up is, that is).
@@BruceChastain DNA tests are incredibly unreliable anyway lol
I don’t really understand why people assume it’s all from one person 🤷🏻
Lack of education
@@marcusolsson9541 that's a understatement
i dont know why people told her she was asian, she definitely doesnt look like one, it must have been because of the makeup.
Nope she doesn't look Asian. And the thing is, when people comment that one looks Asian, they mean East Asian features. They need to specify the region because Asia is a huge continent. Plus smallish eyes are not inclusive to East Asians alone.
She really doesn't. I come from an Arabian family and she looks like my friggin sister.
She does look kinda asian. Asia is not just Japan, korea and China.
People assume having small eyes makes you Asian
she looks wasian
Morocco is just on the other side.. and they actually conquered each other; actually there is a bit of Morocco that is.still in control of Spain.
Gibraltar? I dont remember le name...
@@TheGrandy123 Ceuta
@@TheGrandy123 And Melilla
@@TheGrandy123 nah Gibraltar is under British rule
You don't except a Zoomer to know history.
A large number of the Iberian Muslims were expelled to North Africa(along with Sephardi Jews) in the 16th Century. These were ethnic Europeans, who had converted to Islam in the early Middle Ages.
Most people don't know, but the Iberian DNA most likely are Iberians who converted to Islam, while living in Muslim Iberia and then were expelled by the Christian Kingdoms. And lots of Iberians, including myself, have Moroccan DNA due to the presence of Berbers during that Muslim Spain era. They most likely stayed and converted after the Christian Kingdoms conquered the whole Peninsula.
Yh I actually heard somewhere that the last Iberian Muslims were expelled in the late 1800s
Morocco was also a major center of the Islamic slave trade.
watching this on the 29th and congrats on almost 20k already! This is an awesome channel and I look forward to watching it grow!
Thank you!
Not a genealogist, but I get asked about my interest in my ancestry all the time by friends and family.. I just find it cool!
Also my results kept changing since I got my results in 2018. My trace region of South Asian disappeared lol
She is basically an Arab/Berber with a bit of Iberian admixture most likely from the moors.
Arabs are not the same as berber. She is an arabized bebrer
Not really arab no
She isn’t Arab. She Berber. There’s a big difference
I just got my results today and I'm 98.2% Iranian which was kinda expected lmao, but it also says I'm 1.8% Pakistani/Northern Indian (it doesn't say that it is traced or anything). I was wondering what does that really mean. Does 2% really mean anything or is it completely meaningless.
Welcome You're officially a desi
Iranian and middel eastern have not had studies and population samples taken in great numbers like European or some asian places, sooo I would take them results with a grain of salt, waste of Money and time for a non European to take this test for now
Haha, 98% one group seems disappointingly mundane. Since Pakistan is a neighbouring country, there's a lot of common ancestry and geneflow. Surprising that it was so low, especially given the history of Iran.
Probably because of the Silk Road.
Lots of travellers on the Silk Road! A Pakistani friend said his paternal grandfather was Iranian.
Which DNA test would you recommend for tracing Asian geneology?
I think there's one called We Gene (or WeGene) (?)
For those in the comments, B*rber is not an accepted term to northern Africans. Their real ethnicity would be Amazigh. The B-word was given to them by the Arabians I believe.
yup thank you!
no berber was given by British.
Yeah you're right except for what the name came from, it came from Romans actually, and thanks for spreading awareness
You appear with probably "Tizi ouzou" genes ! cousine ! Welcome in Amazigh family 8:33 😉
Every Northern African is Amazigh, are you even familiar with North Africa ? Lmao.
Ta9baylit ?
I just found out I have 5% North African DNA and they found a location in Casablanca, Morocco for me and Marrakech for my mom. most of my results were Spanish, second Native American, and third n.african because my family is from Mexico. Would that mean I have a great great grandparent that was full Moroccan given most of Spanish dna and the mixing with Moroccans?
you should search for andalous
Moors colonized Spain for 800 years until 1492 so it's normal for Spaniards to have moroccan blood and vice versa
One common one with genealogy is "let them dead people lie!" My grandmother even said it but then went and tested LOL
When I took the test, I received a Southern Asian result that neither of my parents had. A year later, it was gone.
Most people who take this kind of test in Portugal get around 10% north African, so it's normal that north Africans get 10% south European. Apparently, some tests can now indicate if it is from Portugal or from Spain.
It's not about how easy it is to get ur dna if they want it, it's the idea of a fully ID'd DNA bank that I think we need to all think hard about lol
why would anyone think she's asian?
Its the most frustrating thing for people to not know that nation states are modern- and that ppl have traded, traveled, and warred forever. If you’re Mediterranean then you’re a mix and everyone who knows their region’s history should know that. I’m from Calabria, Italy and I know my area’s history and so wouldn’t be shocked to be told I’m near anything
So interesting.
My dad and I both had our DNA work up done. Initially, he showed a tiny bit Jewish, but it disappeared with updates.
I showed a tiny bit Swedish. That dropped off during one update and came back much higher during another update. I never showed any Jewish ancestry.
Worrying about someone stealing a used fork and worrying about companies that harvest and likely store DNA information are two drastically different things. Haha
I laughed way too hard at this.
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Came here to say exactly this!!
23andme were for ages showing me as being 0.1% Yakut, even had it on my timeline, same later with Broadly Central & Southern Asian, of course I consider and then generally dismiss such results, entertaining but probably no more informative than when sometimes unassigned pops up, have to say I was sceptical, it disappeared after a few years, I get Spanish & Portuguese/Southern European quite frequently in results at usually 1% or so, though AncestryDNA initially showed me at 5% and some of other ones have showed me at much higher levels, I assume it's either misidentifying similar looking DNA of West Eurasian origin from Iron Age or Bronze Age, more recently 23me was showing me as having 1.2% Greek and Balkans, odd how where there are DNA mapping it's noticeable how these are frequently on different chromosomes or different places on saje chromosome, so it's frequently not a case of it being one bit that is consistently showing from same region, so it's probably noise or similar, I had French & German and Scandinavian in my results and then those disappeared, more recently 0.2% Finnish on 23andme and 1% Norway on AncestryDNA, in fact only consistent results are ones showing North West of Scotland and North of England, especially West Riding, Lancashire to a lesser extent all to be expected Ireland pops up sometimes, mainly west coast and Dublin.
Greater London us top on genetic communities in 23andme, but it is pretty much certain that this is because so many relatives of ancestors have moved to London that it reflects elements of the North of England and of Scotland, Ireland and Wales.
I'm not a genealogist but I'm interested in family trees, family research, DNA and I'm always asked why am I so interested lol
You are Bantu tribe
Wow, as an asian that can usually tell the difference pretty well between other asians like japanese, chinese, korean, etc, i totally thought she was half asian/caucasian... 🤯
She looks Latina to me. I'm Korean.
she just looks like a regular moroccan girl with a very asian style, a lot of her friends are asian as well
It's her heavy makeup that makes it hard to tell.
I like the t-shirt he chose for this video
During the French protectorate in Morocco, European Christians formed almost half the population of the city of Casablanca.
North Africans conquered Iberia, and Iberians have conquered North Africa, so it really isn't surprising that their is a mix of DNA from over 1000 years of trade, war, and settlement.
DNA tests themselves have nothing to do with genealogy, but the results and ancestry are. just for the record
I remember going to Gibraltar and it had a significant minority Moroccan population. I wouldn't be surprised if the same happened in Spain and Italy.
I have traveled in Morocco and the local Berber guide told me that the ancestors of Berbers came from Asia....I don't know if he's telling the truth or not...
by asia he meant middle eastern, not east asia.
moroccans are the oldest people in the world. the oldest homo sapien skeletons have been found there. they're 316,500 years old. so the ancestors of asians and everyone else came from berbers.
No it’s not true its only a theory. We originated from east africa
No, the Berbers originally existed in North Africa
The Muslim people who Ruled Southern Spain/Portugal for centuries, were from the northern part of africa, so makes perfect sense
I've had .1% Native American at 23&Me since I was first tested around 2007. At that time, I had .1% Subsaharan African as well. Since then the African trace has disappeared. Now, my dad has .2% Native American, and the segment is on the same chromosome. He has an additional segment on another chromosome. None of the other companies I've tested with have detected that Native American trace. I did some math once, and calculated that a full-blooded native ancestor probably would have lived 500 years ago.
Given my dad's double dose and the fact that we have ancestry in New England that goes back to the first colonists, I think this is legitimate. It also comes up in the origins tools at Gedmatch. It is quite possible that we had a Native American ancestor who lived in the early 1600s.
My mother is from the south with ancestry back to early colonial Virginia and many surnames associated with descendants of Pocahontas. I haven't proven a line back to her, and my mother didn't have a DNA test, so I don't know about her origins from testing.
I just wanted to share to address the question of trace ancestral origins.
Le façon d’elle a dit “DNA” à sa mère francophone plutôt de “ADN” me rendre à mourir de rire… sa mère lui regarde comme une folle!
Actually she and her mom have a very typical Moroccan features. It just depends on what people think "Moroccans" look like. She is probably "Berber". All the one I have met or seen online have these sort of squinty eyes. Some deny being non-Arab because of Arabization and religion.
Americans who are not aware of what north Africa is would think North "Africa" means she should have the stereotypical African American features.
Also, non Moroccan Arabs refuse to admit that Many Moroccans are not actually Arab or even mixed Arab x Berner because of religious fanatisms mentality.
Pokimane = African American... cool
Man i really should take a test like this in the future.. i expect my dna to be all over the place though.. my dad is from the carribean wich already adds african and native american. Then there is also defenitely european and i know that there is something asian on my mums side.. my great grandmother (mums mums mum) was most likely from indonesia.. (we’re not sure though could be the phillipines as well for all i know) and i know that my great grandfather (mums fathers father) was also pretty dark and was quite hairy.. we think that might be some indian or pakistani.. i say this because when i compare our features to people from certain parts of the world those line up the most.. only ones i know for sure is African, native american and european
Can make a video about Cardi b’s ethnicity?
11:35 Regarding this, I've heard that it's possible to tell roughly how many generations back the admixture happened by how clustered different ancestries are on your chromosomes. Eg if you're a first-generation mix, say a Japanese parent and an African parent, each chromosome will have entirely ancestry from one ethnic background and none of the other, since you get one copy of each chromosome from each parent. If you're the child of two first-generation Japanese/African mixed parents, you'll have Japanese and African ancestry on the same chromosome (since you inherited both ancestries from the same parent) but it'll be in large chunks, since during meiosis there's only a few crossovers where the two homologous chromosomes exchange DNA. The more generations back you go, the smaller each individual chunk will be since there'll have been more and more crossover points.
23andme lets you walk through your chromosomes segment by segment and see them color-coded by ancestry, and this theory seems to broadly hold true for my results. My father's ancestry comes from Belgium and my mother's from Britain, and for the most part each chromosome either has French & German *or* British & Irish ancestry but not both. (The exceptions are explained by those two countries being basically across the channel and therefore no doubt having older admixture as well - although even those exceptions are decently large chunks.)
Meanwhile, my 2% Neanderthal ancestry would be consistent with having a pure Neanderthal ancestor 6-7 generations back, but obviously that can't be true since pure Neanderthals died out more like 1600 generations back. And when I look at which places in my genome have Neanderthal segments, instead of large chunks, I have tiny little snippets sorta evenly spread throughout my genome, on chromosomes from both parents. Which is consistent with many generations of people with a little bit of Neanderthal ancestry reproducing with other people with a little bit of Neanderthal ancestry.
Now for inexplicable reasons I really want to, out of the blue, take one of these tests. lol
i had trace amounts of italian and spanish but from an update it disappeared... meanwhile my sister got more so like cool but dang
Salut de France J’adore vos vidéo! Vous avez peu de vidéo commentant les Kabyles d’Afrique du Nord c’est dommage!
I read this as "geologist" instead and was really confused for a sec
Sardinia is not typical of Italy and it's because many Vandals settled there. During the Vandal kingdom, they ruled north Africa. So that's most likely where that part of her DNA came from.
What? Sardinians are just Sardinians. Vandals settle there briefly and dind't leave anything expecially their DNA.
lol sardinians arnt vandals
I would put her as mostly Berber or Amazigh. With a bit arabic, west-asia. The european part maybe from the Berber in Spain for some centuries.
but what if I didn't leave a like on either channel >.>
It didn't surprise me in the slightest that she is part Portuguese and Spanish because of the trade routes between them countries and Morocco. I've always wanted to do one of these tests to see what I am. But I will most probably be 100 percent British.
You might find some French & German ancestry, because of the Saxons and Normans and so forth.
My cousins and I are fond of saying that our ancestors are in Witness Protection. Because some don’t want to be found.
Can a genealogist search for information about people just based of one photo?
It's certainly possible but extremely difficult. There would need to be enough clues in the photo to figure it out. At the very least there are photo detectives who can give you an estimate of what year the photo was taken and possible ties to certain cultures or ethnic groups (often based on clothing).
@@GeneaVlogger that's kind of a bummer. I stumbled upon two interesting portraits of people but there are little to no clues only their faces, but they look so interesting, well thank you anyway 😊📷
If you have the physical portrait then look on the back or consider taking them out of the frame to look at the edge and sides. You can also consider finding a professional to help with this if the portraits are very fragile.
9 times out of 10 people can't pronounce Caucasus.
I think I've accumulated my 20% Norwegian result from my mother's 11% from her great grandfather, and my dad's Shetlandic ancestry. pokimanes results like mine, are not very surprising knowing her Moroccan ancestry.
she is asian shes vietnamese
The Moors, muslims people from Marocco, ruled over southern Spain and Portugal for 600 years.. she could have gotten the Iberian dna from that.. people mix and migrate during 600 years..
My Brothers and Sisters, just curious, how old does Poki look?
Nah she's 100% makeup
Well she may pass as Filipino. A Spanish mestiza, that is.
Most Filipinos are not even of Spanish descent
ADN in French
They're funny!
i grew up with her in Canada, shes not Asian. shes Moroccan. her parents speak Arabic and French. i get why people think shes asian but yeah, shes technically middle eastern.
Bro whattttgg? Middle eastern??? She’s moroccan and morocco is not in the middle east dumbasss. He literally explained that she is a berber or a native north african lollll
middle east is part of asia,everyone knows except americans.
But i do get your point you mean east asia.
middle east and caucausus = west asia.
North African not middle eastern, Morocco is in North Africa
North Africans are Amazigh and not the same as middle easterners
Ohhhh genealogist. I read that completely wrong.
She has a European/hispanic background look. She doesnt look asian at all...
only 10 percent,but mainly northern african
Pokimane is more black than she is east Asian aka oriental.
I took a test. I have percentage. But based on that, how can I know when the mixed was done? 😥Example: My parents are both from Algeria. I have 8% of ashkénaze. I dont know where it comes from. Maybe through some sefarad Ancester I dont know about ? 🤷♀️ My mother has no % of ashkénaze. I suppose it comes from my dad side. But he is dead. How Can I calculate from which génération this ashkénaze ancester poped up? 😋
The best way is actual genealogy research! 8% equates to somewhere between a great grandparent and 2nd great grandparent (assuming it is all coming from one recent ancestor). If your dad had any siblings or you have cousins on your dads side you can also ask them to test to see if they also get Ashkenazi. Hard to prove anything using the ethnicity admixture, it's more of a tool to help in genealogy research.
Best part of this video is I can figure out is that girl was Asian with out having to click on one of her videos. But yeah 23andme this is her updated results.
She's not Asian, though.
SHES HALF VIETNAMESE LAMAO
Poki simp right here
Tigerbelly bobby lee.
The only accurate test I have received is CRI Genetics. My grandmother is half Choctaw Indian. Her father was full and it is very recorded on Censuses and rolls ect. not to mention they look very Indian. Ancestry showed ZERO% CRI showed exactly the 1/8 I have from my 1/4 father. It didn't even show my cousin who is 30% American Indian. It said ZERO %
Her last name is ng? Isn't it vietnamese?
no, it's anys
She said when she took the test she used a fake name, the name on the test is not her real name her name is Imane Anys.
She left out west African
is Yvonne Ng her real name, isnt ng a chinese last name??
She specifically said that she used a fake name. “Ng” is a Cantonese name.
Her name is Imane Anys.
t3 subs in the chattuh
I am feeling super simpish just watching this.
moroccans are the oldest people in the world. the oldest homo sapien skeletons have been found there. they're 316,500 years old. so the ancestors of asians and everyone else came from berbers.
6:07 sorry had to dislike for that massive strawman :)
🙂👍🙂👍🙂👍😄
the 0.1 percent is from the people she lives with maybe :p
So basically she's Egyptian
what
Tf she’s a native moroccan lol (berber/amazigh)
I mean, Egyptians are also North African, but from the other end of North Africa.
Well, you're definitely scottish or welsh, and don't try to deny it. Pokimane is definitely of a noble Granadan descent, she wouldn't have so many followers otherwise.
shes originally from morocco