Professional Genealogist Reacts to NFKRZ DNA Results
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The thing is, Russia is such a huge country and there are SO MANY nationalities inside of it and all these companies just....ignore every single one of them for some reason.
Many nationalities were invented during the USSR.
@@radziwill7193 actually most of nationalities joined Russia in the times of Ivan the Terrible when Siberia became part of Russia. Most of nations who were part of USSR are now independent countries(excluding nationalities who were in Russia before USSR)
Tatars do have their own category among many other ethnic minorities in Russia on 23andme, myheritage is just lazy
@@radziwill7193 And are there proofs for this claim other than some conspiracy theories?
I think you don't get what DNA tests are. Nationalities are pretty much made up thing. There are many nationalities in Russia but they all are just East Slav, Finougor and Turk-Mongol blood lines with no unique DNA in them. These "15% Fins" in video are not ethnically fins, they are dozen of Finougor ethnicities who live in Russia and have languages remotely related to Finnish, so they were listed as Fins.
Your best line, "DNA doesn't care about borders."
It does
becuase it can say that you are from Germany but in reality you might be from a German minority in a different country
@@stateofconstatinopole8316 Or it might mean one of your parents is Polish, the other one French. ;)
Sorry, population history for the territories of the German Kaiserreich is complicated, even more so if you add the Austrian Kaiserreich. In the East, you have lots of Germanized Slavs and Baltics, in the West, you have immigrants from France (we had two politicians called "De Maiziere", no close relation) and the Netherlands.
Though some German minorities in Eastern Europe might be a special case because their ancestors came from the Rhineland and the Palatinate, which is quite a small area in the West.
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i hope nfkrz sees this. he needs a noncontroversial topic to do video on once in a while so he wouldnt be demonetized so frequently.
I wish these dna companies had DNA reference groups for the minority ethnic groups in Russia such as Tatars, Bashkirs, Mordvins, Karelians, Kalmyks etc. I think there would be much more “diversity “ showing up in these dna results for Russians, after all there is a saying that goes scratch a Russian and find a Tatar.
I uploaded my 23 & Me results to Geneplaza, and found I have a tiny bit of Kalmyk and Tuvan.
Ayyyy Karelian gui here
Nah. They still would be majorly "Russian". Some northern regions would be mixed with Baltic and Finn people.
You don´t need to run tests like that in Tatarstan, for example, you just look at their face and you know already they are tatar-turkic.
@@tedbundy5363 In the former borderlands, it is not as simple as that. The Cossacks often grabbed local women, and they also adopted the locals who accepted the Orthodox faith. So, people who identify as Russians, but have a noticeable portion of Asian blood are not rare. I've seen a guy who identified himself as a Baikal Cossack, and he had definitely more Asian than Slavic look. Also, the Tatars are a mixed race themselves, and the proportions of Asian and European share can vary.
22:16 I feel obliged to say that the main reason why certain slavic languages use cyrylic is because this alphabet includes all the sounds that they make. On the contrary think of Poles. We forced urselves to use latin alphabet (because of cultural influence) and now we're stuck with words like Brzęczyszczykiewicz, chrząszcz, Szymankowszczyzna i Szczebrzeszyn because there are no characters for all the sounds that we make. We are forced to use character combinations like sz, cz, rz, drz etc. In our case cyrylic would have made more sense.
Actually, our Latin alphabet is based on old Czech writing with diagraphs before the Hus reformation. Our phonology developed way too much to use cyrillic. We'd have to either invent new cyrillic letters or stuck with diagraphs again. The only alphabet that could suit us would be Czech.
Im Russian and I was recently thinking that Cyrillic alphabet can make Polish words significantly shorter.
For Polish, basic Russian alphabet really must be extended. )))
@@polskiszlachcic3648 Both can suit Polish - if you use extra letters or diacritics. Old Cyrillic even had separate nasal vowels.
Grzegoz Brzęczyszczykiewicz! ;D
RUclips tip: you can use comma and period keys to go back or forward one frame. It's great for catching easy to miss stuff.
Fun fact when Constantinople was conquered by the ottomans many Greeks fled to Russia the “third rome” spiritually as the biggest country that followed the Orthodox Church
Was Constantinople now it's Istanbul. Why did Constantinople get the works? That's nobody's business but the Tuuuuuurks........
This video convinced me not to pay for one of these tests cause if its going to just tell me I’m “Eastern European” imma want my money back
my dad took Anestry.com test and it said "80% Eastern European, 10% Scandinavian, 5% Scottish-Irish and 5% Finnish" it didn't go into any more details, no specific country and I'm pretty sure the Scandinavian and Irish are wrong too. 23andme is better and tells you specific national ethnic groups you have
I took MyHeritage and got western Europe (Germany and Spain) and Nigeria. Based on what I know it's pretty much correct.
Exactly, I'm half Russian half Irish and Ancestry just told me I'm like 45% Eastern European and then my other half was so detailed telling me about Ireland, Wales, Scotland, Finland etc, really sad about that because I really wanted to know more about Russia :(
Get one that at least does your health assessment very seriously.
@@glacialimpala is one and is free all of us
7:21 This is a very american thing, to just identify oneself with a skincolour instead of an ethnicity or culture.
Because the US is a melting pot and youre expected to tow the party line, some people can melt into society easily because they look like the stereotypical American, whereas others who look like theyre from a different country have to work harder at it. Asian looking people probably have to wear a cowboy hat, revolver on the hip, riding a horse with an american flag cape to be look as American as literally any white or black American - and that's really sad. Some people are just bigots and only see skin colour and stereotypes but id expect that of a country where most people know nothing about the rest of the world.
What about Brazil? They have way more race categories and one's classification may change as they get older since it's based on features and skin colors
@@paddington1670 cowboys were Mexican, Native, and Black before they were White so it's funny that people associate White America with cowboys
@@paddington1670 cowboys were Mexican, Native, and Black before they were White so it's funny that people associate White America with cowboys
@@reesemalo cowboys were Spaniards first. It's European in its core.
I'm Russian too, born very near to Chelyabinsk, in Yekaterinburg.On myheritage I got 63% Baltic (which I wasn't surprised by, Rus' was mostly formed by Baltic tribes) 17% East Europe, 8% Finnish, 6,3% Central Asian, and 6 % Inuit!!! to say I was shocked by the Asian is to say nothing. It makes sense, just never had an idea I probably had a 100% Syberian ancestor, both my parents are practically blond/light brown-haired and European looking
But, the thing that surprised me most was my matches - I got an impressive 1420 cousins from Finland, who were mostly my top matches as well, 240 from Sweden, 90 Norway and 130 Germany.
On myFTdna I got traces (2,5 %) of Scandinavian, and on myTrueAncestry (the ancient matches) I got a lot of Viking and Kiev Rus, to the point of matching with A Prince of Novgorod from Rurik Dynasty. And some Ancient matches from pretty recent years(1800s) from Swedish coal mines.
Who would have thought!!! (I was sure I was just Russian too lol)
If I remember correctly 'rus' was a 'Viking' word.
Have you studied your family history? Have your ancestors been translocated eastmore during last century or somewhat earlier, from the Baltic countries or Finland or near areas? Ruriks' Y-DNA haplotype was N1c1, typical of finnougric origin.
i looove your enthusiasm! i also love that you never tire from reiterating the same points you make in each video about genealogy.
I was adopted from Korea but am mixed ethnicity. I never knew what my white side. Did 231ndme then as part of a birth search. Seemed like 95% of my DNA relatives were Eastern European. My results came in 51.3% Korean and 48.7% Eastern European. On my Eastern European #1 geographic location they estimate Vilnius County. On Korean side #1 Jeju-do. The other sites I've tested with don't get that specific. My birth search turned up cousins that led to finding my biological father. Turns out my father was 2nd generation Polish American, my paternal grand parents both emigrated from Poland. Early on 23andme lumped all Korean adoptees as Korean/Japanese. All my fellow Korean adoptees freaked out. I always maintained that DNA isn't ethnicity. Then 23andme refined their estimates and magically all those freaked out adoptees were now 100% Korean.
It looks like you have not understood the principle of DNA tests. You need to check your haplogroup to find your father.
@@radziwill7193 No you don't.
Results: "45% snow, 65% vodka"
110% Russian
@@0Leonx0 I am glad someone got the joke
With one of my cousins, we joked that her DNA results would say 100% crazy. You would have to know her personality and she used to party when she was young and she is bipolar. I was going to get her a kit this year for Christmas but unfortunately she died this past month 😢 she always said there was possibly Cherokee and we have been curious about that and I have been really wanting to know myself.
that was priceless 🔥
Nice 😂🤣😂
In the mid 20th century a huge load of Baltic people were deported to Siberia (150k from Lithuania alone), same also happened in the mid 19th century, after the failed 1863 uprising, so it makes sense that there would be a lot Baltic ancestry. And the proto-Baltic and proto-Slavic languages are sister languages, so it is expected that genetically the Baltic and Slavic peoples would be similar
I follow NRFKZ and I saw that video on his channel, but I never watched it there. Watching it now through your video is probably more educational, because you give added information about dna. Glad I found this. 👍🏻
I follow NRFKZ too. His channel just keeps getting better and better.
"Baltic" can be really widely defined. Linguists know, that toponims of Baltic origin go as far as Moscow region, because Baltic tribes used to live there. And of course, centuries of common history, both in Baltic region and in Russia, there are still some villages of Baltic people in Siberia left from XIX century.
Slavs and balts also is close relatives, even if we will not count assimilation of the slavic or baltic tribes. And we was splitted not long time ago, from historical point of wiew - that was happened somwhere in united Roman Empire times.
I'm from a rural underdeveloped area in europe that never emigrated anywhere and I'm worried my results are gonna just say "incest" so I'm never getting these tests done :') I even met my greatgrandparents and know of all my great great great grandparents.
Incest is not something that can be recognized in your dna. Also if we are inbreed and still have no recessive genetic anomaly your family probably have some very good genes.
@@Freak-px9uk well I'd still rather have some mystery, "you're all country bumpkins all the way down" is kinda depressing
purity of blood and origin is something rarer and more valuable in our time than it seems
My family lived in the same place since XIIth century were they were send here as punishment/payment for helping a kings brother with assassination. No one for the last 223y lived further then 50km of where my grandparents houses stands now(and the foundation of the house was layed down in 1798) . There are so many people with identical last name and first names, that when we speak about someone we use tags like , hornet, beaver , pretty eye , or curly lock etc.
Probably it won't. It is possible they married distant relatives often, but not close ones. And only marrying 12.5-25% or more degree of relatedness is considered incest.
True story. My sister took an ancestry test. We know that our mother is almost entirely Irish, but my sisters test came back like 50%+ polish. Our father is half polish.
From what I could find out, my sister pulled genes primarily from our grandmother. I don’t think my mother was particularly happy that her favorite child came back less than five percent Irish! Lol
I did the 23 and me test, and I got 94% Scandinavian and 6% Finnish... My sister got like 83% Scandinavian, 10% Finnish, 3% French/Dutch, and 3% Polish/Ukrainian, and according to the test we had the exact same parents and the most similar genetics, yet such completely different results. I don't really know if these tests are completely accurate.
@@Isuukuu kids get random set of genes from both parents, which took their random set of genes from their parents and so on. There's nothing unusual that you get different results than your sibling.
@@Isuukuu genes travel in “cartels”. There’s a good chance that if you inherit a polish gene a whole bunch of other polish genes are coming for the ride. You don’t inherit in a super straightforward way. That’s said @Dawn Yockey’s mom is definitely not 100% Irish. If she was then 50% of the autosomal genome of her sister would absolutely come direct;y from the mother and therefore be 50% Irish. The mother is probably not much more than a quarter Irish. If they’re in America, good chance what the mother thinks is Irish is actually Scotch. People in the Us really seem to confuse the two for no really good reason.
@@Isuukuu If you both had got exactly the same results you would be identical twins
@@Isuukuu those results aren't even that different.
Eastern Europe stretches as far as the Ural Mountains. It should be included in my opinion.
The Slavs colonized the Urals only in the 16th century. Shown here is the autochthonous arrangement of the Slavs.
@@radziwill7193 Finno-Ugric people are European and they have been living to the east of the Slavs for thousands of years as far as the Ural Mountains and even beyond. Geographically, Europe extends to the Ural mountains
@@zekun4741 Aren't they asians?
@@DzinkyDzink , are Hungary and Finland in Asia? Lol.
@@DzinkyDzink Only two Finno-Ugric peoples, Khanty and Mansi, outwardly resemble Asians. In the case of the rest of the Finno-Ugrians (I am talking about those who live in Russia. I have not seen many Finns and Hungarians, who have their own countries, unlike, for example, Mordovians), I generally cannot say what is the difference in appearance between them and us.
25:00 my mother lived in kazakhstan and she talked about school there and said there were a lot of greeks and korean people
My mom and grandma grew up in Kazakhstan and they're greek! In almaty and shimkent.
I'm from Kazakhstan, and there are more than 125 ethnicities living permanently. The biggest ones are other Central Asian, Russian, Korean, German (but most of them left in the mid 90th) and Greek
There were many Greeks living in the Southern Russia
I'm from the Balkans. I know that my great-great- (great?) grandma was Italian and my grandmother is also not from my country but from the neighboring one. Learning history, I know that there has been so much migration that I grew sick whenever such a title poped up in the books. We also had Russians here, Armenians and Celts.
When I earn money, I'm 100% getting a test like this.
I’m so thrilled I found your channel! I had myheritage DNA. done four years ago. All my gg grandparents were born in Ireland or Aberdeen, Scotland. I wasn’t surprised that I have aViking or Great Britain. However, the 7.5% Baltic DNA was surprising. I’m now waiting for the CRI genetic results.
What did you think about CRIGenetics?
I made aliyah 8 years ago. Even if I am an Ultra Orthodox I had to bring a letter from a Rabbi that I was halachicaly Jewish just for legal purposes so a DNA would not help him. I happen to be 92% ashkenazic Jewish and 8% Sefardi Jewish but all my grandparents are Ashkenazic but they do say they are descendants of sfardi Jews like the Abarbanel. Thank you keep the videos going. Chag pesach sameach!
Was it problemtic getting tested in Israel? I want to take a DNA test but 23 and me won't ship to Israel so I need to ask someone to send it to me. Even Israeli MyHeritage doesn't provide kits here. Pesach Sameach!
@@snam85 Genetic test can expose mamzers, which will screw their life, hence the DNA test are forbidden.
Sort of like my mother who has ancestry from East Prussia and other areas NE of Berlin. She had 20% Baltic, 10% Scandinavian, and 40% East European. The rest being “German/French”. It made us do a double take, since the whole family were German speakers. However, it does make sense once we gave it a few seconds of thought.
Your mother is a Prussian, nice results
Old Prussian was a Baltic language, so I assume most of them just got assimilated to German.
Could have easily just been assimilated Poles, I’m from the same place as your mother in north eastern Poland and my great granny told us how the where she grew up in Mragowo (Sensburg) in German there were both Polish and German people living there. People with German names were speaking Polish and there was people with Polish name speaking German
@@IhaveBigFeet I can confirm with possibility of assimilated Poles. My dad’s family on his dad’s dad’s (my great-grandpa) can trace their lineage back to Poznán, which was known as Posen during the time my dad’s paternal ancestors left. It was a slight shock to us because grandpa grew up believing he was German/Austrian (he was from a branch of the family that remained Jewish, the rest of the family has pretty much converted to Christianity). But then my dad learned that Poznán was controlled by Prussia and later the German empire during the 19th and early 20th century and if you were a Jew living in a part of Poland controlled by Prussia or Austria you apparently didn’t really face too much discrimination. In fact the Jews of Poznán actually identified as Germans.
What was the big shock for my family came from my mom’s side. We were expecting to see Neanderthal DNA because of the presence of Neanderthals in Germany but we never expected to discover that there is a small amount of Denisovian DNA in the family’s genetic code. I’m not sure if it came from her dad’s side of the family (his ancestors came from the Rhineland Palatinate which did see Hunnic colonization) or her mom’s (that branch comes from Schleswig-Holstein which, as far as I can tell, did not have any Hunnic colonization).
Original prussians (now called 'old prussians' or 'baltic prussians') were a baltic nation which got occupied in 13th century and completely germanised by 17th century. Even a name 'Prussia' is of baltic, not germanic origin.
Borders in the Baltic have changed so many times that I would be surprised if Polish, Lithuanian, Latvian, Estonian and Russian DNA could be differentiated.
I have the Redhair Gene. I took part in the research to find it. Both parents must have the Redhair Gene in their families too. That's what I was told by the Professors conducting the research. Think of me next time you put on sunscreen, you know, it's more than likely that it's because of my reactions in tests.
Was waiting for this haha 👍
You are very sympathetic. I took the test at my heritage and 23and me. At 23andme the haplogroups are named. With myheritage, the family tree is easier to create.
Actually im 53% scandinavian - 38%north West European - rest east european... This guy looks like a copy from my family. 😱🙂👍🏻❤️
lol
slavs and scavs had a fun history together
I was watching a tv show... one of those ancestry shows... and one of the guests was culturally Italian but came from one of those islands constantly going back and forth between Greece and Italy... one year it benefited you to have a Greek surname and one year an Italian... that sort of thing, and one of the things they mentioned about the history of the area was that around the time of WWII a lot of the citizens of the island fled... the three major places they ended up were US/Canada, the UK, and Russia.
I have a higher percentage in Swedish than either of my parents because I managed to inherit ALL the Swedish DNA from both sides. So instead of one more recent ancestor it is 2 or 3 more distant ones. So ranges for the generations also doesn't work too well.
Lol
I took a 23 & me test and then I uploaded my dna to my heritage and the results were compeltely different! The 23 & me was the closest to what my family knows, but my heritage was soo different, it had dna from the other side of the world. Which really doesn't make sense...
Same here!
Stalin moved many people of the European groups like the Poles and the Baltic ethnicities on the Western edge of the Soviet Union to Siberia, Central Asia (like Kazakhstan, and he said he lived near the border), and the Russian Far East to dilute their numbers in their homelands and increase the European settlement of the Russian East. The Soviet Union needed these areas settled to reinforce their control over these lands.
Wrong on all accounts:
Historically Poles were a semi-imperial nation engaging in forceful assimilation and relocation of minorities as well as themselves; Belarus is _the_ historic Russian Lithuanian state; Estonians and Latvians never had statehood to claim anything as their own and at different times were owned by either Rus or Sweden, from whom the land was purchased. All of these numbers were already "diluted" long before Stalin was born.
"The Soviet Union needed these areas settled to reinforce their control over these lands." - the main targets for relocation where the enemies of the working class revolution; their ethnicity had next no nothing to do with their displacement. Had Bolsheviks been concerned with the ethno-centrism, they wouldn't fight to turn Russian Empire, which had no "ethnic state" as a concept, to turn peripheries into full-blown nation states, many of which never existed in history.
They wouldn't enforce the demand of learning every republics' national languages in schools by every member of that society; they wouldn't be beefing those republics up with land. Instead they'd make sure that the RSFSR controlled as much space as possible. Meanwhile, in the 73 years of the USSR's existence, the only piece of land RSFSR had gained was a relatively small part of Prussia, presently known as Kaliningrad, with the rest going to Poland and Lithuania. Ukraine alone grew by Russian, Slovak, Hungarian and Polish territories amounting to hundreds of thousands of sq.km of land effectively turning it into the second largest state in Europe. Meanwhile, Poland grew off of Eastern Germany and Prussia.
"The Soviet Union needed these areas settled to reinforce their control over these lands." - a very significant chunk of USSR's top leadership weren't even Russian and neither was Jugashvilli-Stalin, he was Georgian.
23 & Me was the closest to my genealogy research.
Don't know why this was recommended to me, never went in for genealogy...maybe if you say a lot of "Russian" in the video, RUclips recommend this video to Russians? :D
Anyway video was interesting to watch!
yes
I have Russian/Ukrainian and Polish Jewish ancestry. In my case, I haven't noticed very many Eastern European matches, Jewish or otherwise on MH. I'm also part Finnish. I have several thousand Finnish matches on MH. MH seems pretty popular among Finns.
ETA: I'm 1/4 Jewish and 1/8th Finnish.
That Greek part of the Russian guy: there were Greek settlements all over the Black Sea region since antiquity until Late Middle Ages (also in what is now Russia and Ukraine). He really should not be surprised about that result! In case it´s really a relatively recent ancestry, there were some Greek refugees coming to the Russian Empire during the Russo-Turkish wars.
I'm Russian, and I don't know whether I should take a DNA test - although I'm really curious. (Is it even still legal in Russia? I think our authorities took steps to prohibit us from sending DNA samples abroad... Maybe I'm wrong, though.)
One of my relatives on my Mom's paternal side made a massive genealogy tree dating back to 1600-1700s, and basically my Grandfather's side is very Russian. Our family's biggest mystery lies with Dad's paternal side, and it relates to my grandgrandfather - we only know that he might've been Jewish. But basically my biggest fear is that I might spend money on the result "100% Russian."
Another thing is that Russia is a multi-ethnic country, and the DNA testing companies have no data about that because their pool is very small.
You confuse two different topics. The problem was covert illegal DNA collection by shady biolabs. Legal consensual DNA pass was never an issue (and how can it be?).
Well, I have 25% unknown ancestry, it is also from paternal granddad btw, so I might actually get some interesting results))) I think it is somewhere from Caucasus though
there wasn't an illegal DNA collection, is is propaganda
@@iwantnod the issue was raised particularly with the Israeli US-based MyHeritage organization.
You never know unless you try it. You might find you have other stuff too. O have so much in me but I also have cousins that are more mixed than I am. Some have black, Italian, Mexican, native American, and or half philliappino (not correct spelling) etc. And I also have cousins that are just 99 or 100 % Jewish.
There were Greeks that immigrated to Russia
Greeks settled parts of Crimea in Classical times, others fled to their fellow Orthodox Christians in Russia after the fall of the Byzantine Empire. Greeks were a recognised minority in the USSR and in the pre-war period even had their own Greek Autonomous District in the Northern Caucasus.
Hi man! Thanks for video. I am from Asia, Mongolia. I might sound odd, but could you suggest which company's test would be best for me in terms of database and other things? Thanks!
Thank you - I've been on the fence about MyHeritage because I can't find a way to pay monthly, but only by the year - but my mom's four grandparents all came from Eastern Europe and ancestry/23&me haven't been all that helpful for me to find information. But if they are more likely to have helpful matches [and less family scandal [hopefully] than my dad's side] maybe I can learn some more about that side of my family than I've managed so far.
He could also be a dicendent of a depoted Lithuanian or Latvian. After WWII Stalin deported a lot of them to the Central Asia region, where he comes from.
Dna admixture shows similarities. It doesnt mean that russian people came from baltics. It means that russian and baltic people share the same ancestor. Russians and baltic people are brother-brother' and not 'son-father'. Everething depends on a reference point. If we took 'russian' as a reference then baltic people would be half russians.
People often think that if they have native american dna they could be called their descendents. When most likely they just had a common ancestor somewhere in Siberia who didnt go through Bering pass and stayed in Eurasia. It means they are 'brothers-uncles' with native americans and not sons.
Wow, this was so educational!
Yes, they have parts of Russia under Mongolia, Ashkenazi Jewish and tons of places in Eastern Europe
Many Germans and Dutch went to Russia and Ukraine.
Romania 2 then many went to America
I have Ashkenazi Jewish ancestry and when I got my Ancestry DNA results they basically just highlighted the entirety of eastern Europe lol.
They should just put the circle over European Russia (up to the ural mountains) imo
Pushkin, a quintessential example of Russian aristocratic writer, who could trace his ancestry back to 12th century nobility, was also the great-grandson of an Eritrean kidnapped and sent to Constantinople as a gift to the Ottoman sultan, and then, in an extreme example of "re-gifting", transferred to Russia as a gift to czar Peter the Great. So, if you just look at a branch of Pushkin's family, you say "basic Russian guy"; you then look at another and wow.
My great-grandparents were Czechs and my MyHeritage results were 22.6% Balkan, 8.1% North and West European, and 2.8% East European but the circles on each of those results cover pretty much every corner of the Czech Republic. I've dug into my Czech genealogy (going back to the 1700s on many of the trees) and have yet to find anyone who wasn't from the same general vicinity of the other in the Czech Republic.
Ancestry just lists it as all-encompassing Eastern Europe while 23andMe nails it as Czech.
We slavic people are from Balkan, our ancestors are from Vinča civilisation.
The “Eastern Europe Russia circle” is pretty accurate, by the way. Dig a little deeper and you’ll see that the majority of people who live in Russia migrated from this circle. And not every migrant married Marie el people or Bashkirs. In fact, Russia waged wars against these kingdoms and in a way the story is somewhat similar to the story of the Indians in the USA.
My Heritage is the worst! AncestryDNA has always been the closest! I am 50% Ashkenazi Jewish. My Heritage did not come up with any Eastern European. Everybody else does include Eastern Europe. My Great Grandparents were born in Warsaw, Kiev, Belarus, Moscow. On most tests I came up under my 50% Ashkenazi Jewish as Lithuania/Latvia, Ukraine which makes sense.
how much of a percent would u count right like i'm 3% german and 4%sweden is it enough or is that trace ? i'm breton and irish hertige?
I am from Germany and have about 5% Central Asia + 1,5% Central South America (that is MyHeritage version of Siberia) and I have found out by more tests of relatives, parents and grandparents that my great-great-grandfather must have been a Tatar from Bashkortostan. I don't have a name yet, but I will find out.
Check out Baltic tribes. Some 1500 years ago they were extremely populous throughout Eastern Europe
Yeah, before the Slavs came and assimilated and displaced the,
them*
Actually, there was a lot of migration from the Baltic States to Siberia back in the time of the Russian Empire. Many of the were prisoners who were sent there as a punishment but some went there by their own will in order to get a better life. One migration wave took place in 1850, 1861 and 1865. According to the 1897 population counts there were 4.202 Estonians living in Siberia, 4.281 in Caucasia and 440 in Central Asia. And during the Stalin dictatorship 10.000-s of Baltics were sent to Siberia by force in two waves, 1941 (45.000 Estonians) and 1949 (20702 Estonians). According to the 1926 population counts 29.890 Estonians were living in Siberia. According to the 1939 populations counts there were 143.589 Estonians living in Russia, many of them in Novosibirsk, Omsk, Tjumen and Tomsk oblasts. If you want to read about Estonians in Siberia i can suggest Aado Must: "Siber ja Eesti. Jalaraua kõlin" (2012, with both an English and a Russian summary).
I took Ancestry and it came back 73% Eastern Europe centered on the Carpathian Mountains, and 27% Balkan centered on Croatia, and that was spot on to what I know about my background. All Slav here.
If it's centered on the Carpathian Mountains you could be Romanian. Romanians are not Slavs, as their name say. They're descendants of Romans.
@@snowfoxpup lol are you serious?? Their language is a Romance language but they have genetically nothing to do with Romans.
Romanians are a mixture of Thracians,Slavic,Celtic, Illyrian, Germanic.. and what not...
It makes sense to show circles for Russia, because there are different ethnicities within Russia which don't have their own country. My grandma has Tatar in her background, but none of the DNA tests have those very small ethnic populations.
Enjoy listening to your knowledge.
You also have to consider a lot of the forced relocations as recently as the Soviet Russian era. Very many people sent far East or to a different country. Ethnic Russians were all over the Soviet Union! Cool channel and video.
As far as I know, the Balts who were deported back to their homeland during the Kruschev era, when the majority Russian population showed similar DNA to Baltics people, thats indicate there was a large and very old community, namely the Balt-Slavs.
I was looking up which test NFKRZ took 9since I wanted to input my 23 and Me results in their Gene AI system) and found your channel! I'm very happy I did too! I also very much appreciate you validating that white folks can share an interest in their heritage too!
Oh actually that's his original video! I saw his even newer one "Russian finds out he's actually Ukrainian" where he has a sponsor code for a Gene AI website (still going to to go find that lol)
I am Russian and took Ancestry DNA test. It shows the same - I'm "Eastern European". The funny thing is that I took it to see do I have my ancestors' Greek blood or not. The guy from the video even haven't expected that he is 5% Greek, but I'm not!!!!
Okay, I can make an educated guess of his Greek heritage given that I know that it pops up quite often in DNA tests of Russians. He mentioned that he has Ukrainian ancestors, and it's quite possible that they were Cossacks. And Cubanian Cossacks lived in the areas, where there were many Greeks going back to Byzantium times.
"Basic white guy" isn't necessarily as boring as it sounds. My results gave me about 55% British, 40% French/German, 3% Portuguese. I started digging around and found there was a traceable Portuguese ancestor who was the sole survivor of a shipwreck of ship going from Europe to the Carribean and he just stayed here and married a local girl, and oddly enough he's my great-great-great-great grandfather three seperate times so that's probably why I still have so much detectable Portuguese DNA so many generations later. I didn't know anyone was French or German in my family. Tracing those lines I found out that many ancestors came to North America on the Sally in 1752 as protestants running away from Catholicism and Britain put them here to compete with the Catholic Acadians. I found Acadian ancestors I didn't know I had. I found another German line moved to the US, fought for the British crown, and then got chased out and settled in Canada as Loyalists. There's all kinds of history to be learned even though it's "boring white" to some people.
remember the many ancient GREEK populations that lived on the coasts of the BLACK SEA
A couple of historical facts that can effect one's DNA.
1. Catherine the Great put out a call for agricultural workers, so whole villages in Germany/Poland emptied out and emigrated to Russia. (This occurred to my Mom's mom---HER dad came from Russia, but was ethnic German.)
2. Remember Napoleon and his French Army's invasion of Russia in 1812? Not ALL survivors returned to France.
There is definitely an error with "baltic" in MyHeritage. It's mostly russian. For a long time this region was part of Russia. And also from the point of view of antropology a lot of russians in european part of the country have "baltic" face features (light color eyes and hair, eyes far from each other). This error comes from the fact that MyHeritage (like other western countries' companies) ignore existence or Russia (1/7 part of the world).
There were a lot of Russians who moved into the Baltic region. So it could be matching up to Russians who live in the Baltics.
After my research, I’ve decided to do ancestry and upload to myheritage for genealogy, and 23&me for health. There is another health one I can’t remember, it’s gone over in useful charts channel.
He looks more Eastern European to me than Russian tbh. He also has more of those Kazakh/ Uzbek features than the typical slavic Russian ones. I think his test is spot on based on his looks.
Russians are Eastern Europeans
@@vufcyfxcyyfccfugvi7466 depends on location. They're more northern than eastern tbh, and plenty are Asian, not European.
@@verybarebones originally Russians are Eastern Europeans. Closest relatives by DNA are Ukrainians and Belarussians not Mongolian or Chinese 😂 We just conquered large areas in Asia. It doesn’t makes us more Asian.
If you speak about minorities in Siberia or North Caucasus, then yes. But they are Russian nationals, not ethnic Russians.
@@vldsmlstp still alot of Russians (even the "european" looking ones), have turkic/asiatic ancestry
Idk what u mean by that he actually looks like typical Slavic Russian dude .. in American movies they just be having them look a certain way that you describing but he looks like a average Russian as it gets .. plus I could of looked at him and without him telling me his nationality I would of new of back his Russian
Estonians are part of the Finno-Ugric people meaning we're more related to saami and finnish people rather than the russians
Baltic is also Belarus and some Poland according to my heritage. Maybe he’s belarussian. Also. Soviet Union tried to acctually mix peoples in many weird ways.
You are a King mate
My dad took an ancestry test being an immigrant from Finland and not only did it come back 100% Finnish they even narrowed it down by two levels? degrees? of pin pointing what part of Finland he was from...however mine came back more ambiguous because my mom has a big mix in her ancestry that sort of made me 48% Finnish but also up to an additional 40% vaguely northern european, it wasn't narrowed down XD
My Ancestry and 23&me results are so different from each other.
I got Ashkenazi, Russian, Polish, as well as a bit of German among my other DNA results. Not surprising at all since my grandma looks just like an ol' Russian grannie.
Interesting... I think the Baltic could be more on the Latvia/Lithuania side than Estonia, as Estonians are Fennic and speak Uralic language. Estonia has more ties to Finland in a lot of ways than the other neighbors. And as far as I know Finland is it`s own zone in these tests.
They also have a big chunk of Baltic DNA. All three - Estonians, Latvians and Lithuanians genetically are very similar. Language doesn't have DNA. Here you could speculate whether Estonians are balticised Finns or finnicised Balts. The same goes for Lithuanians and Latvians.
I was really dissapointed with 23andme for my own test. As someone who is Sámi I got roughly 70% scandinavian(in the most northern part) and 28% finnish, the rest was eastern european and 0,1% north african(wtf? how?). But they said I had traces in the most northern part of Norway, which makes sense for my family (historically) but then suddenly removed it all together. I wish 23andme would have a separate category for Sámi instead of just cutting us off with "swedish/finnish".
Lots of ethnic minority groups probably has that problem as well with these tests although I think MyHeritage has Sami if I remember correctly
Kievan Russ was founded by the Rurik dynasty. Rurik had typically FINNISH genetics (I don't remember the reference for that) and traveled originally from what is now SWEDEN. NOVGOROD was founded by this clan and they interbred with the local Slavic and Finnic population.
If you've had your DNA done at 23 or Ancestry and wish to use the ethnic analysis at Myheritage, it is only a small additional charge to upload your raw DNA there. The family matches are free.
In the past few days he’s uploaded a new video with a more detailed breakdown.
I saw that and plan to record a reaction this weekend. I noticed it is ADNTRO, which has been trying to get me to do a sponsored video, so it'll be interesting to see what results they give and if they are reliable.
My mom took the Ancestry DNA test. It came back 100% Ashkenazi Jewish from Europe. The map is a circle covering most of central and parts of eastern Europe. Which is exactly what we know and expected, but not very interesting compared to a Heinz 57 result most people get. The family tree hints were more interesting, it found ancestors in Europe for which we had no genealogical records because both families emigrated in the early 1900’s and didn’t pass on a lot of information about their family history
Nice video. The Slavs were in the Balkans and Greeks may have some Slavic admixture, as vice versa.
The Balts were trading Amber with the Romans, were they not?
My dad was from East Prussia. I got 19% Baltics.
Well Prussia was inhabited by Balts long long time ago, also Baltic-Germans.... could be some connection there. They had good ties with Prussia
Prussians were a Baltic tribe, over the centuries they just assimilated into German culture.
Why didn't he do a test for the "haplogroup" (R1a/R1b, etc.)? And can you use the tables in his video to determine his haplogroup?
Russia is much older equivalent to Usa, Slavic tribes conquered a lot of other nationalities and tribes. In North Eurasia there used to live a lot of Fenno Ugric tribes, that western Europe has never heard about like Vepsa, Ingeri, Komi, Mari etc. Finnish and Estonians are Fenno Ugric people that got to have their own country in this area. Fenno Ugric tribes are cousins, but we are not related to Russians. And by the way, Estonians are related to Finnish and not with Latvians and Lithuanians (although probably in history there has been mixing). And throughout history Russians deported people from Baltic countries (and also Ukraine) to Siberia.
i know that guy from the videos of youtouber (Bald and bankrupt)
Me too!
I first tested with FamilyTree. I was questioning a family story. The results were still questionable, so I tested with My Heritage. It was even MORE confusing. Finally I tested with Ancestry where several other family members had tested. The most current update actually makes the most sense. I know via genealogy what I am, but I just wanted to verify a few things. My Heritage is the ONLY company that decided that I was Baltic. The others, no. The only real odd surprise was finding out that I end up having almost as much of my French great grandma's DNA as my Dad's own cousins who have tested. So, unless My Heritage is now saying that French people carry a lot of Baltic and Eastern European ancestry, I seriously wonder about their results.
how do the testing companies figure out what DNA goes to what area. do they go off people just saying on a form what there from?
When I took 23andme DNA test it showed that I have a LOT of cousins I never knew I had. Apparently, this is what happens when you come from a population with low genetic diversity which recently experienced a genetic bottleneck. Also, I am 99.8% my people, as vanilla as it can get. Now I’m thinking 23andme are literally using my DNA as the reference for my people
What people are you?
Throw of the dice when two people hook up.
I tried myheritage and the result was 70% British even though I have no ancestors over there that I know of. We all came from Eastern Europe and Germany.
Having myself gotten 100% Finnish I guess that doesn't mean our DNA is tightly contained but rather that not many that share the same DNA mixture with me have done the tests yet. And I did actually use the MyHeritage one that should "know" the eastern European DNA. My grandmother was born and raised in what's nowadays Russia, in the region that Finland had to surrender to Russia when she was young.
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Yeah i have a lot of British and Irish DNA but none of my ancestors come from there. But i do have a lot of people that lived near the North Sea and the English Channel. So that is propably why i get 65 percent British and Irish and 30 percent North West European which is where all my ancestors are from. I did familytree search back to the 1500-1700
I'm Lithuanian, live in Ireland and the DNA test results are- 96% Baltic, 4% Eastern Europe (Ukraine, Belarus, Poland).
I would love to do this, my family is all over due to big mixups during and after WWII.There were regions literally swaped with each other. And I wonder if my 16 hundreds ancestry would come up.
It's always fun to upload dna to GEDmatch. They have different apps you can run your dna through.
Do you have to pay to run your DNA through the apps?
@@elsemargrethetnder883 it’s free!
The Greeks colonized Crimea and the coast of the black sea for thousands of years, they had large populations over there up until WW1 pretty much.