Greetings! I carried a revolver (S&W model 10) for years as an LEO and my agency issued the Safariland Comp II's. I have used the HKS as well both on duty and in competition but always did find the Safariland easier to use and faster. I still am a "revolver guy" but I haven't been able to carry a revolver since 1999 on duty. All auto pistols now. Thanks for doing this video. Good to see a revolver getting used and used quite well I might add! Stay safe!
I just got rid of my two 45 ACP's and bought two Ruger revolvers. Revolvers have no safety, always ready to fire - and an auto-loader jam can get you killed.
Just bought a Safariland Speedloader for my Model 66. My local gun shop recommended it over the HKS. Looks like they know what they are talking about. Thanks for the very helpful video.
There is an additional significant advantage I have found to the Safariland loader as well, over the HKS. The Safariland loaders are MUCH more SECURE as far as carrying loose in either a pocket or purse or fanny pack, etc. Why? I have found the HKS loaders to prematurely eject the rounds, causing them to all fall out because it's quite easy to nudge or bump the knob on the HKS loader. The Safariland model however, because of it's design where you actually push on the body has a trigger system that is not exposed at all. It's hidden way up underneath on the loader itself and is surrounded by the actual rounds it is carrying. So while the Safarilands can cost a little more, there is no comparison in design or quality as far as I'm concerned. The only reason I haven't thrown away my HKS, is because I'm a bit of a hoarder. But they are junk compared to the Safarilands which are not only much faster, better built, and as I say are MUCH more secure. They do NOT prematurely unload and only release when you deliberately intend them to.
Just like spare mags you shouldn’t be carrying a speed loader “ loose” they make those pouches for it and in those cases the HKS is superior cause the high knob makes it easier to pull from the pouch.
Your technique is the way to do it. My left hand and arm has very limited mobility so I have to do what I do. However, for anyone with two normal hands, your suggestion is preferred. Thanks for sharing that with folks!
Everyone on here is a critic and armchair gunslinger. Thank you sir for showing those of us who don’t know everything. Because of you, I will likely be getting the safariland. Your informative video and hard work is appreciated. Please keep it up.
The HKS works well if once you twist to release, just let go of it completely. If the revolver is facing straight down, the rounds drop in and when you close the cylinder the speedloader drops away. I don't have the safariland to compare with and the safariland might be better, but with a little technique practice the hks is pretty darn fast.
You speak truth. I’ve had 4 hks’s for a week and after a little practice I learned that if you have the revolver facing down vertically they drop right in. I don’t know why all these grown men are having such a hard time simply twisting and releasing. But yes. They work excellently and they are very affordable. I’m buying more.
@@JesseCross-bg8frYep. Push twist, the release. More to do, more fun using HKS. Safariland, push, done. Less bother less fun. Take it from the pros. Safariland speed loaders are better. I've used nearly every brand produced, even ones I can't remember their name and that you may never have heard of. Strange how people criticize what's proven to be best. Just keep twisting and shouting.
Sorry, still getting used to the new RUclips app. Ditto what akin said below regarding the #586 HKS Speedloaders as I use them in my 686 and no wiggle is needed. I use the 10A in my 66 and model10 without issues. Great video and I am a NH native who now lives in PA, hence the name!! Great video!
This is a very useful video for me to see. I have ordered two of the Safariland and two of the HKS for my GP100 of the proper models and I will try both and see how it goes. It is good to have options.
+tiggerr42431 which did you end up liking better? I have the HKS (the correct model:586) and think they are really fast. Were the Safariland ones much better?
Both are worth the money. I use the HKS more just because I have the belt carrier used more in the field. The other one I use at the range more for speed.
These Safariland loaders are killer! Saw this video and ordered a couple off of Amazon for my Redhawk 7.5". TONS BETTER than my HKS! Thanks Brother, great video.
Thanks for this video. I bought a speedloader holster on ebay that came with one of each. I couldn't get the Safariland one to work because I wasusin it wrong. Now it works like a charm!
Thanks for watching and commenting. Actually I own several revolvers. While not my primary sidearm, I do enjoy and appreciate them. I also believe in working different types of pistols and revolvers to have basic proficiency with them.
Ok, I bought me 2 of the Safariland comp 2. I really like them, as far as putting in the bullets. I just put the bullets in, put my left hand over the bullets. Then I bring my left hand around where the bullets face down and push the knob down and turn the knob to right to lock the in. Done, easy to do. Love them.
Thanks for your review - easy to understand, especially with the care you took to get a good camera angle. I have a S&W 681 for casual shooting but of course a reload could be handy. You have sold me on the Safariland, they are $9 at Midway.
To reduce or even eliminate that sticking shells in the knob type speedloader, lightly oil the rim of the ammo or periodically scrub with metal polish. They slide effortlessly.
Thank you for the tip. I think that would apply for most situations specifically at the range. However, many people carry their speed loader in a pocket. This means that lightly oiled rim is likely to collect lint and dust particles. That being said, I’m going to give your suggestion a try when I go to the range this weekend. It’s been a bit since I’ve shot my revolvers and I simply love shooting them! Thanks for commenting. I hope you will consider subscribing and sharing the channel with friends and family.
It is very nice to see that somebody finally made a speedloader that doesn't require you to awkwardly turn a tight, teensy knob-- on top of a cylinder that _also_ spins. Completely counter-intuitive. _Never_ liked the HKS speedloaders. Got a couple of used COMP 1's today and dang, unless these break I'm not going back.
I've used Safariland Comp speed loaders since the 80s. I've tried HKS loaders for my K and J frame revolvers and always go back to Safariland for the same reasons.
I USE BOTH KINDS AND THE HKS SEEMS TO BE THE BETTER ONE,I'VE HAD TO SPRAY THE OTHER WITH SYNTHETIC LUBE TO MAKE SMOOTHER ACTION OF THE RELELEASE OF DROPING THE BULLETS
Thanks for the video, was looking at speed loaders on amazon for my truck revolver. looked at the hks and saw the safariland just today and will defiantly go with safariland, Thanks a bunch!
Loved this review and your candid comments and williness to move on from what you are more familiar (HKS) to what simply works better (Safariland). You enthusiastic "...freaking awesome!" made me smile. Thanks! Ben
very cool I was looking for a video to the Safariland push button loader and I see that you're disabled firearm owner therefore I'm subscribing I'm going to recommend your video to a few other my subscribers we disabled functional gun owners gotta stick together I love my Smith and Wesson 686 it's an original from 1991 before they messed up the tooling in the millennium decade
It would help if you had the correct sized HKS speed loaders for you 686 which takes the 586-A model loaders. The 10-A loaders are for K-frames like the Model 10, 15, 19 etc. The 586-A loaders are for L-frames the the 686.
@@roteroktober360 because there are different sizes of revolvers… There are small frame .357 revolvers, medium frame .357 revolvers, Large frame .357 revolvers and even Extra large .357 revolvers. There are 5 shot revolvers, 6 shot revolvers, 7 shot revolvers, 8, 9 and 10 shot revolvers. There are .32 calibre revolvers, 9mm revolvers, .38 longs, shorts, specials, .44s, .45s, .500s and so on… Point is, there are a lot of different sizes and calibers of revolvers.
Would be great to have replacable cylinders without weakening the design, that could work like magazines. One could be even faster than with a speed loader, just swing out, it falls out and put a fresh one in without fiddling with emptying the old cylinder and matching the new rounds with openings.
Conceptually, it is ‘possible”, but in practice would not work for a duty/defence firearm. Revolver cylinders rely on a ratchet system which would be susceptible to dents and damage if speedily discarded like a magazine after use. A simplified version of this concept is full Moon clips, where all the cartridges are connected and you simply drop them all into the cylinder at once. Fact is, technologically, revolvers are at their peak of practical design.
Great job on your video! Which, in fact, has encouraged me to purchase a speed loader or two and practice at the range. Have not considered the Safariland up until this point.
I use both, HKS feels more durable and "positive", the Safariland is maybe a bit quicker if you're trying to shave tenths of a second off your times.......main advantage is I can use Safariland speedloaders with my off hand, HKS requires switching hands. Overall 2x2x2 pouches are my favorite for just overall carry and training. Speedloaders have gotten fumbly or sticky on me too many times.
@@johnryan296 a usually leather pouch which holds 6 cartridges in three pairs, allowing you to grab two at a time for rather quick reloads. (IE, reload two cartridges in the time it takes to reload one individually.)
Randomly found this video. One thing thing may increase your speed is to keep the speed loaders to the right side of your belt buckle. your much more proficient (and faast) with what your doing than than 80% of most people I have see.
I have a 686 and the proper HKS loaders. If you transfer left to right from a 2 handed grip, release the cylinder with the right thump, open with the left fingers and grab the reloader by the release knob (not the speedloader cylinder) by the right hand, close the 686 cylinder with the left thumb, and transfer to a 2 handed left grip it would go faster. As for the speedloaders themselves, the HKS will never release prematurely in a pressure combat situation as you can't turn the knob unless the rounds are partially in the cylinder. I've seen the Safariland style pressed prior to insertion by novices.
Very nice review with excellent real world testing with pros and cons. I've been looking for a couple of speed loaders for my S&W M36. I think I'll look for the Safariland.
While I agree the Safariland is better and faster than the HKS, it should be noted you are using the wrong size HKS. The HKS Model 10 is for the S&W K frame (Model 10, 14, 19, etc) the 686 is an L-Frame, the HKS Model 586 is the correct size for your revolver.
Safariland all day over any other loader. I have had 2 fail over the years (many years) but the failure involves them failing to even grab the rounds and lock in place. These were high mileage loaders though. Never had a failure of a loaded loader or an accidental dump as I’ve had with others.
If you can ever find them, you should also try the SL Variant speedloaders. Similar to Safarilands, but they are spring loaded so rounds shoot straight into the cylinder instead of having to rely on gravity to drop rounds.
You're using the wrong HKS. You should use the HKS 586. That said the Safariland is faster for those who don't practice. HKS may spin the cylinder when twisting. Simply holding the cylinder prevents that problem. I have both and find no difference if I hold the cylinder. The HKS 10 I have is for my Dan Wesson revolver model 15.
It’s not hard to use just requires training for the memory. However unlike Vash’s gun which opens like the old school schofield revolvers with a top break most modern revolvers run a side drop cylinder. Now if someone could figure out how to make a modern top break revolver that could take .357 it would eliminate the need for a lefty to train extra hard like I do
Yes, the Safariland is much quicker. The thing I don't like about the HKS is you have to hold the cylinder in place or the knob will turn the cylinder. You then have to let go of the cylinder to close the cylinder. Not much time but a split second can make a difference. With the Safariland - shoot until empty, simultaneously engage the cylinder release with your right thumb while using your left hand to swing the cylinder out, simultaneously grab the gun with your left hand with it pointing up and eject the spent shells with your thumb WHILE using your right hand to grab the Safariland speedloader, then bring the gun and the speed loader together.
Wishse, you mention you use the #10 HKS speedloader for your 686. The HKS #10 is better suited to the K frame S&W models, (Like the Model 10 38 special). HKS makes a #586 speedloader sized better for the L frame 686. Cylinder hole spacing is just a bit wider and inserts much smoother. I have used the #10 HKS in my 686, but it is not as fast or smooth. BTW I prefer the Safariland Comp II's also, for the same reasons you state.
Guns, Gear & On Target Training, LLC if you really like those I would try the speed bees they are superior to the Safari Land jet loaders or even this far away and compensation 3 the only problem I have with the jet loaders over a speed loader is that in a field they can prematurely eject the rounds so when you go for your loader you won't have any there but it all pertains to practice a newer person can definitely use a jet loader quicker but a competition shooter will actually take a speed loader over jet loader because of the pre mature release
You really need to grab a speed loader pouch. That said I did try Safariland loaders and like them but I already have a cigar box full of HKS for my .38 special k frames. When I pick up my next revolver (S&W 44 mag) I'll probably go with Safariland for it.
Sir, thank you for commenting. Yes, unfortunately, I was born with a significant handicap of my left hand and arm, and had to have reconstructive surgery on my hand. I consider myself fortunate in that I am still able to shoot with some level of proficiency. I appreciate you commenting at hope you will subscribe.
I tried two different J-R4C COMP II for my Security Six and neither will retain the damn cartridges. Thank goodness for Amazon return policy. will stick with the reliable and always working HKS.
Hello. Point of clarification. Which model HKS loader are you using with that Smith 686? If it's a 10, it's the wrong one for the L frame .38/. 357 guns. Might explain the binding.
Thanks for sharing the reload technique. I've never seen it before, but I'm trying it out. Does it have a name? Did you develop it, it learn it from somebody? I'm practicing and taking notes on the pros and cons compared to the FBI, FLETC, StressFire, and weak hand competition reload. Will share when ready.
Very nice shooting for not practicing much! I like the Safariland but I wonder if it will work with my 642 J frame or if there will be issues clearing the stock grips. I really enjoy your videos, keep them coming... How about more classic pistol firearms - 1911, Luger, Hi Power, CZ, Colt, S&W, lever gun combo's.
Greetings!
I carried a revolver (S&W model 10) for years as an LEO and my agency issued the Safariland Comp II's. I have used the HKS as well both on duty and in competition but always did find the Safariland easier to use and faster.
I still am a "revolver guy" but I haven't been able to carry a revolver since 1999 on duty. All auto pistols now.
Thanks for doing this video. Good to see a revolver getting used and used quite well I might add!
Stay safe!
I just got rid of my two 45 ACP's and bought two Ruger revolvers. Revolvers have no safety, always ready to fire - and an auto-loader jam can get you killed.
@@CitrusCountyBeatnikummm 🤨
Just bought a Safariland Speedloader for my Model 66. My local gun shop recommended it over the HKS. Looks like they know what they are talking about. Thanks for the very helpful video.
Just when I went a bought two HKS speed loaders only yesterday. I'm ordering Safariland today. Good video. Many thanks
Just got a Safariland yesterday and I think I made the right choice over the HKS
Excellent feedback... Thanks for helping me understand that. I'll get one of the #586 and see how that does. Thanks for watching.
There is an additional significant advantage I have found to the Safariland loader as well, over the HKS. The Safariland loaders are MUCH more SECURE as far as carrying loose in either a pocket or purse or fanny pack, etc. Why? I have found the HKS loaders to prematurely eject the rounds, causing them to all fall out because it's quite easy to nudge or bump the knob on the HKS loader. The Safariland model however, because of it's design where you actually push on the body has a trigger system that is not exposed at all. It's hidden way up underneath on the loader itself and is surrounded by the actual rounds it is carrying. So while the Safarilands can cost a little more, there is no comparison in design or quality as far as I'm concerned. The only reason I haven't thrown away my HKS, is because I'm a bit of a hoarder. But they are junk compared to the Safarilands which are not only much faster, better built, and as I say are MUCH more secure. They do NOT prematurely unload and only release when you deliberately intend them to.
Just like spare mags you shouldn’t be carrying a speed loader “ loose” they make those pouches for it and in those cases the HKS is superior cause the high knob makes it easier to pull from the pouch.
Idk Why He Twist & Wiggle W/ The Comp II'S.. HKS Tic I'm Sure
Your technique is the way to do it. My left hand and arm has very limited mobility so I have to do what I do. However, for anyone with two normal hands, your suggestion is preferred. Thanks for sharing that with folks!
Everyone on here is a critic and armchair gunslinger. Thank you sir for showing those of us who don’t know everything. Because of you, I will likely be getting the safariland. Your informative video and hard work is appreciated. Please keep it up.
The HKS works well if once you twist to release, just let go of it completely. If the revolver is facing straight down, the rounds drop in and when you close the cylinder the speedloader drops away. I don't have the safariland to compare with and the safariland might be better, but with a little technique practice the hks is pretty darn fast.
you nailed it Joe! I can see the advantage with the SafariLand but PROPER TECHNIQUE Will Remedy Most Probs with the HKSs
@@lugin4guvistf773 the HKS was around long before the safariland Denver existed
@@matthewcaughey8898yeah so?
You speak truth. I’ve had 4 hks’s for a week and after a little practice I learned that if you have the revolver facing down vertically they drop right in. I don’t know why all these grown men are having such a hard time simply twisting and releasing. But yes. They work excellently and they are very affordable. I’m buying more.
@@JesseCross-bg8frYep. Push twist, the release. More to do, more fun using HKS. Safariland, push, done. Less bother less fun. Take it from the pros. Safariland speed loaders are better. I've used nearly every brand produced, even ones I can't remember their name and that you may never have heard of. Strange how people criticize what's proven to be best. Just keep twisting and shouting.
Sorry, still getting used to the new RUclips app. Ditto what akin said below regarding the #586 HKS Speedloaders as I use them in my 686 and no wiggle is needed. I use the 10A in my 66 and model10 without issues. Great video and I am a NH native who now lives in PA, hence the name!! Great video!
Good stuff! You've convinced me to pick up a couple for my GP100.
nice video, pretty fast reloading considering your personal issue,,,2 thumbs up my friend. :)
Man I tell you. You really mastered and optimized to your condition. You do it pretty well. 2 Thumbs up.
This is a very useful video for me to see. I have ordered two of the Safariland and two of the HKS for my GP100 of the proper models and I will try both and see how it goes. It is good to have options.
+tiggerr42431 which did you end up liking better? I have the HKS (the correct model:586) and think they are really fast. Were the Safariland ones much better?
Both are worth the money. I use the HKS more just because I have the belt carrier used more in the field. The other one I use at the range more for speed.
Excellent demonstration!! Even better explanation!! Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Sir, Thank you very much for this video. The answer I was looking for. Greetings from France. Stéphane
Glad it was helpful! Hope you'll watch our other videos. Merci!
I could not be more impressed with this video I just bought a gp100 thanks you for the review
These Safariland loaders are killer! Saw this video and ordered a couple off of Amazon for my Redhawk 7.5". TONS BETTER than my HKS! Thanks Brother, great video.
I'm happy that historians like this guy preserve this stuff for future generations
Someone has to! Seriously, revolvers are good tools and the can really help trigger control and trigger management.
Thanks for this video. I bought a speedloader holster on ebay that came with one of each. I couldn't get the Safariland one to work because I wasusin it wrong. Now it works like a charm!
"im not good with revolvers" owns a double action revolver
Thanks for watching and commenting. Actually I own several revolvers. While not my primary sidearm, I do enjoy and appreciate them. I also believe in working different types of pistols and revolvers to have basic proficiency with them.
i was looking at these loaders and with your vid you made up my mind thanks
Glad I could help! I hope you will consider subscribing to the channel and sharing with friends and family.
I'm going to try the safariland...thanks for a informative comparison
Great video, still being watched in 2021
Thank you.
Excellent Excellent vid, I was just about to click buy and pick up the HKS until I saw this video. Thanks sir!
Ok, I bought me 2 of the Safariland comp 2. I really like them, as far as putting in the bullets. I just put the bullets in, put my left hand over the bullets. Then I bring my left hand around where the bullets face down and push the knob down and turn the knob to right to lock the in. Done, easy to do. Love them.
Good to hear!
thanks for turning me on to the Safariland. I have two HKS's. (and a strip which I have stopped using right away.
Thanks for your review - easy to understand, especially with the care you took to get a good camera angle. I have a S&W 681 for casual shooting but of course a reload could be handy. You have sold me on the Safariland, they are $9 at Midway.
Very good demo, thanks, it helps to know before spending money.
Another great vid. I'm getting a GP100 soon, and you just made up my mind about which speedloaders I will be investing in. Thanks!
I need to try those.... thanks for the suggestion
Thank you sharing this video, I got mine and I'm very happy with it. Safariland is the way to go! God Bless!
To reduce or even eliminate that sticking shells in the knob type speedloader, lightly oil the rim of the ammo or periodically scrub with metal polish. They slide effortlessly.
Thank you for the tip. I think that would apply for most situations specifically at the range. However, many people carry their speed loader in a pocket. This means that lightly oiled rim is likely to collect lint and dust particles.
That being said, I’m going to give your suggestion a try when I go to the range this weekend. It’s been a bit since I’ve shot my revolvers and I simply love shooting them!
Thanks for commenting. I hope you will consider subscribing and sharing the channel with friends and family.
It is very nice to see that somebody finally made a speedloader that doesn't require you to awkwardly turn a tight, teensy knob-- on top of a cylinder that _also_ spins. Completely counter-intuitive.
_Never_ liked the HKS speedloaders. Got a couple of used COMP 1's today and dang, unless these break I'm not going back.
Finally? They have been out since the seventies.
I don't have to jiggle my HKS speedloaders with my 6 shot GP 100. Cartridges fall straight in the cylinder. Too easy.
Great video. Finally a product review by someone like me. Thank you, it helped me make my decision.
Cool, never seen that reloading technique, slick way to compensate for the off hand
Enjoyable, informative video with useful information. Thanks for making it!
I've used Safariland Comp speed loaders since the 80s. I've tried HKS loaders for my K and J frame revolvers and always go back to Safariland for the same reasons.
I will have to check those out. Thanks for the suggestion
I USE BOTH KINDS AND THE HKS SEEMS TO BE THE BETTER ONE,I'VE HAD TO SPRAY THE OTHER WITH SYNTHETIC LUBE TO MAKE SMOOTHER ACTION OF THE RELELEASE OF DROPING THE BULLETS
This was very useful for me. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Awesome video! Thanks for posting this, very informative.
Thanks for the video, was looking at speed loaders on amazon for my truck revolver. looked at the hks and saw the safariland just today and will defiantly go with safariland, Thanks a bunch!
defiantly? Yeah, show those MF's who's boss!!
@@philregular1465 ahh why hello mr. grammar nazi, another day of spell check genocide?
Loved this review and your candid comments and williness to move on from what you are more familiar (HKS) to what simply works better (Safariland). You enthusiastic "...freaking awesome!" made me smile.
Thanks!
Ben
very cool I was looking for a video to the Safariland push button loader and I see that you're disabled firearm owner therefore I'm subscribing I'm going to recommend your video to a few other my subscribers we disabled functional gun owners gotta stick together I love my Smith and Wesson 686 it's an original from 1991 before they messed up the tooling in the millennium decade
We agree... thanks for watching and commenting.
In Hong Kong
Completing the loading and unloading of the revolver within 3 seconds is an indispensable skill for the police (HKS speedloader using)
Very true! Thanks for commenting.
It would help if you had the correct sized HKS speed loaders for you 686 which takes the 586-A model loaders. The 10-A loaders are for K-frames like the Model 10, 15, 19 etc. The 586-A loaders are for L-frames the the 686.
classicMaxReviews Thanks for your insight and for watching.
why dont the 6 shot revolvers all take the same speedloaders
@@roteroktober360 because there are different sizes of revolvers…
There are small frame .357 revolvers, medium frame .357 revolvers, Large frame .357 revolvers and even Extra large .357 revolvers.
There are 5 shot revolvers, 6 shot revolvers, 7 shot revolvers, 8, 9 and 10 shot revolvers.
There are .32 calibre revolvers, 9mm revolvers, .38 longs, shorts, specials, .44s, .45s, .500s and so on…
Point is, there are a lot of different sizes and calibers of revolvers.
@@Beuwen_The_Dragon thx for the info but i already figured that out some time later :D
Would be great to have replacable cylinders without weakening the design, that could work like magazines. One could be even faster than with a speed loader, just swing out, it falls out and put a fresh one in without fiddling with emptying the old cylinder and matching the new rounds with openings.
Conceptually, it is ‘possible”, but in practice would not work for a duty/defence firearm.
Revolver cylinders rely on a ratchet system which would be susceptible to dents and damage if speedily discarded like a magazine after use.
A simplified version of this concept is full Moon clips, where all the cartridges are connected and you simply drop them all into the cylinder at once.
Fact is, technologically, revolvers are at their peak of practical design.
Great job on your video! Which, in fact, has encouraged me to purchase a speed loader or two and practice at the range. Have not considered the Safariland up until this point.
I picked up 2 Safari land Im quite happy with them.
I use both, HKS feels more durable and "positive", the Safariland is maybe a bit quicker if you're trying to shave tenths of a second off your times.......main advantage is I can use Safariland speedloaders with my off hand, HKS requires switching hands. Overall 2x2x2 pouches are my favorite for just overall carry and training. Speedloaders have gotten fumbly or sticky on me too many times.
Scott, what is the 2x2x2 pouch?
@@johnryan296 a usually leather pouch which holds 6 cartridges in three pairs, allowing you to grab two at a time for rather quick reloads. (IE, reload two cartridges in the time it takes to reload one individually.)
I really need to practice for a faster reload with my J Frame(s) and my Safariland. Thanks for the share.
My pleasure thanks for watching!
Randomly found this video. One thing thing may increase your speed is to keep the speed loaders to the right side of your belt buckle.
your much more proficient (and faast) with what your doing than than 80% of most people I have see.
Sir thank you for watching and commenting. Great suggestion of moving the speed loader to the right side.
I have a 686 and the proper HKS loaders. If you transfer left to right from a 2 handed grip, release the cylinder with the right thump, open with the left fingers and grab the reloader by the release knob (not the speedloader cylinder) by the right hand, close the 686 cylinder with the left thumb, and transfer to a 2 handed left grip it would go faster. As for the speedloaders themselves, the HKS will never release prematurely in a pressure combat situation as you can't turn the knob unless the rounds are partially in the cylinder. I've seen the Safariland style pressed prior to insertion by novices.
Safariland is better
Well, the hks10, is meant for k frames, that l frame has a different size cylinder
uh thanks?
Bravo.thenks. go Ahead
Very nice review with excellent real world testing with pros and cons. I've been looking for a couple of speed loaders for my S&W M36. I think I'll look for the Safariland.
That was very helpful thanks
Glad it helped
While I agree the Safariland is better and faster than the HKS, it should be noted you are using the wrong size HKS. The HKS Model 10 is for the S&W K frame (Model 10, 14, 19, etc) the 686 is an L-Frame, the HKS Model 586 is the correct size for your revolver.
Thanks
NH represent! ahh always wanted to do that, nice video.
Safariland all day over any other loader. I have had 2 fail over the years (many years) but the failure involves them failing to even grab the rounds and lock in place. These were high mileage loaders though. Never had a failure of a loaded loader or an accidental dump as I’ve had with others.
Thanks for commenting and watching.
Great product and demo.
If you can ever find them, you should also try the SL Variant speedloaders. Similar to Safarilands, but they are spring loaded so rounds shoot straight into the cylinder instead of having to rely on gravity to drop rounds.
You're using the wrong HKS. You should use the HKS 586. That said the Safariland is faster for those who don't practice. HKS may spin the cylinder when twisting. Simply holding the cylinder prevents that problem.
I have both and find no difference if I hold the cylinder.
The HKS 10 I have is for my Dan Wesson revolver model 15.
Great vid, keep it up sir!
Thanks for commenting and watching.
Thanks for the video. I enjoyed it. Ignore the negative comments. Those guys just wish they were you!
Just randomly here from seeing the main character of Trigun use one of these. Wanted to see if it was a real thing haha
It’s not hard to use just requires training for the memory. However unlike Vash’s gun which opens like the old school schofield revolvers with a top break most modern revolvers run a side drop cylinder. Now if someone could figure out how to make a modern top break revolver that could take .357 it would eliminate the need for a lefty to train extra hard like I do
I have not, but will try to locate a few.
I totally agree. I switched to the comp two for my GP 100. They are faster and easier than the HSK.
Nice video thanks for the info
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Very good video, you rock.
Yes, the Safariland is much quicker. The thing I don't like about the HKS is you have to hold the cylinder in place or the knob will turn the cylinder. You then have to let go of the cylinder to close the cylinder. Not much time but a split second can make a difference. With the Safariland - shoot until empty, simultaneously engage the cylinder release with your right thumb while using your left hand to swing the cylinder out, simultaneously grab the gun with your left hand with it pointing up and eject the spent shells with your thumb WHILE using your right hand to grab the Safariland speedloader, then bring the gun and the speed loader together.
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U should be using the hks 586-A for the GP100
thanks buddy now I know which ones to order
great video
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Wishse, you mention you use the #10 HKS speedloader for your 686. The HKS #10 is better suited to the K frame S&W models, (Like the Model 10 38 special). HKS makes a #586 speedloader sized better for the L frame 686. Cylinder hole spacing is just a bit wider and inserts much smoother. I have used the #10 HKS in my 686, but it is not as fast or smooth. BTW I prefer the Safariland Comp II's also, for the same reasons you state.
A handicap is only a handicap if you allow it to be. You my friend, have NO handicap. Keep training and keep improving your skills!
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Yes, they are available form Amazon. They really work far better than the HKS. Give them a try!
Guns, Gear & On Target Training, LLC if you really like those I would try the speed bees they are superior to the Safari Land jet loaders or even this far away and compensation 3 the only problem I have with the jet loaders over a speed loader is that in a field they can prematurely eject the rounds so when you go for your loader you won't have any there but it all pertains to practice a newer person can definitely use a jet loader quicker but a competition shooter will actually take a speed loader over jet loader because of the pre mature release
I really like the clicking noise of the cylinder. Mine doesn't do that. Total old West sound.
Fyi, the HKS 10 is designed for K frame S&W while the HKS 586A is designed for L frame S&W such as your 686/GP100.
Still I like the Safariland better.
Thanks. Very helpful.
You really need to grab a speed loader pouch. That said I did try Safariland loaders and like them but I already have a cigar box full of HKS for my .38 special k frames. When I pick up my next revolver (S&W 44 mag) I'll probably go with Safariland for it.
Nice job ill remember this..
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Ouch, burnt finger on the forcing cone doing it that way.
Great review, thanks!
Dude it took me w. Long time to notice your left hand. Youbare a tank
Sir, thank you for commenting. Yes, unfortunately, I was born with a significant handicap of my left hand and arm, and had to have reconstructive surgery on my hand. I consider myself fortunate in that I am still able to shoot with some level of proficiency.
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Also I have a little different technique: I hold the gun with the left hand and eject with the left thumb. The speed loader stays on my right side.
Oh, and by the way: great vid, thanks for posting
I thought you knew this one. Pretty good video. I hope whenever you need this you will be behind cover.
Nice review
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I agree!
I tried two different J-R4C COMP II for my Security Six and neither will retain the damn cartridges. Thank goodness for Amazon return policy. will stick with the reliable and always working HKS.
use what works!
This is awesome! I have a 38spl model 10 and I would love to get a speed loader like this for practice.. if only ammo was available 😑
The ammo shortage will continue to be a problem for at least 2 more years. And most people cannot afford $1 per round or more.
Good video man.
Hello. Point of clarification. Which model HKS loader are you using with that Smith 686? If it's a 10, it's the wrong one for the L frame .38/. 357 guns. Might explain the binding.
You are correct. I was using the wrong one for this revolver. Have since replaced those
Great,just ordered 2 hks 2 days ago...
Thanks for sharing the reload technique. I've never seen it before, but I'm trying it out. Does it have a name? Did you develop it, it learn it from somebody? I'm practicing and taking notes on the pros and cons compared to the FBI, FLETC, StressFire, and weak hand competition reload. Will share when ready.
Very nice shooting for not practicing much! I like the Safariland but I wonder if it will work with my 642 J frame or if there will be issues clearing the stock grips. I really enjoy your videos, keep them coming... How about more classic pistol firearms - 1911, Luger, Hi Power, CZ, Colt, S&W, lever gun combo's.