Vegan Protein Sources VS Animal Protein Sources
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- Опубликовано: 18 фев 2020
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They forgot to add the peanut butter sandwich group in that study, James Wilks will be outraged.
Did anyone else watch that video and immediately make themselves a peanut butter sandwich afterwards? Just me?
Lmao
LOL
Yeah, in order to get a reasonable amount of protein, you end up getting a shitload of useless calories. Very bright and efficient indeed...
@@Pazuzu-
Useless calories...?
What did the forest plot suggest?
Unable to confirm results
LMAO
oh God, not again
@@timslee0618 face it, that meme is never going to die!
I work for Danone and would just like to add that a lot of our products are actually low protein and AAs are added into products individually in our Metabolics range as that makes up nearly half of our sales figures across the group, the reason being for this that most of these metabolic disorders are for patients who cannot metabolise most whole proteins or particular AAs properly with conditions such as PKU. Therefore there is even less likelihood of conflicting interests or ulterior motives in funding this study. Really cool study btw, thanks for sharing this!
Videos are great but when you’re breaking down studies or explaining methodology it would be a perfect opportunity to add pics or graphics in the vids. Especially for layman.
Great video! The authors' speculations also make sense.
The question is now, whether this affects Muscle Protein Synthesis...I would assume it will -> based on all the other literature on it!
Awesome! Love all the work that you do! Keep up the hard work!
Thank you for the info! As someone that eat plant-based protein I appreciate that and I'm going to read the article. Thanks again love your educational videos
You're doing the Lord's work Layne.
This was a great breakdown of the study.
Hey Dr Norton excelent video!!!! Thanks for all the great info.
What I would like to see is studies on lean muscle growth on plant vs whey protein. These mechanistic studies are cool, but not 100% convincing unless we see it lead to muscle growth.
Pretty interesting findings I'd say. I look forward to these videos as always.
Thanks for the great content. I’m still sticking to plants, but knowledge is power!
Yesss 👏💪 the animals thank you
People like you is what we need in comment sections
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Great video man! Thanks for the science as always
Awesome video as usual! Now, what about WPC vs WPI?
Thanks for the content. I just discovered your channel and I'm learning a lot from you.
Are there any studies quantifying to what degree cooking vegetables increases the bio availability of protein from vegetable sources? If so, how does the data look?
If my question isn't clear, I'm sorry and please just ask and I'll try to clarify what in asking.
Thanks for your work!
Hi Lane.. I wonder if collagen sources of protein would be better than whey protein? Any thoughts/ facts? Cody.
Shouldn't they have used DIAAS instead? According to this newer measure, it is expected that whey protein or milk protein concentrate, for example, if mixed with other protein sources would also get similar effects in the same way that people talk about mixing plant proteins. What I mean is that if the limiting bioavailable amino acid in whey is 1g, there are going to be a bunch of other amino acids that are well beyond that, so the moment that you get another amino acid to boost that limiting bioavaiable one (even if it's a shitty source of protein overall e.g. bread, cereal etc...) all of the other "dormant" or unutilised extra amino acids above the 1g mark would in effect allow the total amount of protein that can be obtained from the whey to rise. The reason I mention this is because if the subjects had eaten cereal or something of the sort before (could be quite a few hours before as well), then when they consume the whey, the total amount of protein they are getting isn't really 24g, but potentially 30g or what have you depending on how much the cereal aided in boosting the limiting amino acid (in this example, raising it by 6g) - the helper amino acid from the cereal would have to be the surplus of an amino acid that wasn't fully utilised from the cereal.
Isn't this a confounding factor to the study? I could be wrong, but from what I know PDCAAS is seen as outdated relative to DIAAS which may be making these results suggest whey protein to have some unique ability (which it kind of does, but not in the way that was suggested by the researchers, based on your comments, in regard to antinutrients and whatnot). I hope I made sense (sorry if I rambled a bit).
This.
since you seem to know your shit(maybe both of you), i was wondering about gut luminal endogenous protein and free amino acids that the body kinda stores and recycles -supposedly-. does that make the discussion obsolete because the body can mix and match them or what is happening
None of this matters because the objective of the researchers was not to measure digestibility but the actual assimilation of amino acids from each protein blend if they're all matched in EAA content and leucine, all the plant protein blends suck in comparison to whey and that's all that matters.
The DIAAS for whey protein isolate is around 110, the DIAAS for soy protein isolate is around 90.
The DIAAS for MILK though in adults is around 143 according to the FAO, for what it's worth.
There's more to it than simply DIAAS/PDCAAS calculations anyway, what matters is real life results and the results show that dairy proteins are objectively superior in every way.
@@draker696 They are superior in terms of ratio and bioavailability, but my point was I didn't understand why they didn't mention that the lack of ability to control for protein mixing (which has been getting discussed more since the inrtoduction of DIAAS) could explain the difference in amino acid levels in the blood. It simply seems strange because surely all the study is showing is that the plant proteins are less bioavailable than we originally thought (and so to get adequate amounts from them one would need to consume even higher quantities) or that the mixing ability of whey protein makes it easier to get higher amounts. The only other thing it could suggest is that at some point it isn't possible for the body to deal with a certain amount of antinutrients in a given time thus capping all plant proteins at a low level than animal based ones (seems unlikely though, but I am not a nutritionist whatsoever).
When you say there is more to it than just PDCAAS or DIAAS, what are you specifically alluding to? I am simply curious as to the specific reason (if there is one) as to why the whey did so much better, or in the case that we simply don't know, why it was the case that protein mixing wasn't mentioned as subjects presumably weren't controlled to not eat anything before. I don't care if animal proteins are better than plant proteins, but I am just curious as to the extent, the reason, and also whether or not this higher quality is simply an improvement in efficiency that can be overcome by consuming more overall plant protein, or if there is a literal hard limit on how much you can get from plants. I am simply curious.
NOTE - How is none of this relevant given that them attempting to equalise for EAA content needs to be done such that bioavailability (or lack there of) is taken into account)? If PDCAAS is underestimating the amount of plant protein needed to match they whey (that is to say, overestimating the quality of the plant protein / underestimating the quality of the whey) then the results are going to be affected (that is, they can potentially be explained away simply by means of a form of measuring error).
@@00HoODBoy Oh I have no idea about anything like that. As I said, I am not a nutritionist. I just did a decent amount of reading into different protein qualities as I was curious as to the difference between animal and plant proteins (and there is a fair amount of misleading information online - from both sides to an extent, although the general consensus is, of course, that animal proteins tend to be much higher quality).
Having read the paper afterwards the tone of this video now seems a bit exaggerated. I dont think this study means much of anything in isolation but contributes to a wider picture. I would have been interested in hearing more about that wider picture and am a bit confused as to the point this video is trying get across.
Thanks for this informational video.
Interesting, and thanks for breaking everything down for us dum dums, doc. Interested to know of you think that casein would also yield a similar result?
Casein taste the best. Makes for great smoothies
What's your recommendation for a plant based protein source/powder? Hemp? Pea? Soy?
Were more total whey amino acids absorbed, or were they just absorbed faster? If the latter, is that necessarily better? I eat a balance of quality meats, organs, vegetables and fruits, so no horse in this race other than an attempt to better discern reality.
The study you done years ago on Leucine, can it be replicated?
Good job Layne
Have there been any improvements to the DIAAS database and the way it handles plant sources of protein since this video?
Layne, was wondering what your opinion is on whey protein vs "real food animal protein" aka something like MRE lite
P.s love the videos, you are my go to source for all things nutrition.
Awesome knowledge that I am going to share everywhere.
oh god..
How do I get picked to be a test subject?
Good presentation, but does the fact that blood levels of leucine and EAA's are higher with whey mean they will actually acrue more lean body mass over time? Also, how does this compare to levels achieved by simply eating steak, lamb, chicken or fish? Thanks.
Do you think the results would then lead to more muscle mass gain overtime?
Great, informational video as always!
One thing I would like to point out though is that I see a trend in the comment section where there's kind of a battle of what diet is healthier, a plant-based one or one that includes meat as well, and that is understandable considering all of the drama that happened after the Game Changers movie. However, it is extremely important to stress that veganism is first and foremost about ethics & environmental issues. That is why I believe that as long as you can be healthy on a plant-based diet, you should adopt it.
This is a level headed comment.
And as long as your healthy on a meat eating diet you should adopt it.
@@jcrhea001 yikes
@@hata6290 what do you mean?
@@jcrhea001the "yikes" comment was just an attempt to assume moral superiority. Don't let nutjobs get to you.
what do u think about cokie monster diet? I eat a lot of shit and I still fit N Naturall even after two operations ( knee ' n' arm- slap) .We shot training very hard and keep walking to stay fit
I'd love to see followup on this. What if I eat a ton of veggies plus whey? Would the effects of the whey be blunted by antinutrients in the veggies or is the study purely explained by differences in protein quality?
I am also interested in this 👀 have you found an answer?
How significant is this increased anabolic response? Is it just acute? Does it make a macro difference in over all potential muscle growth?
Just acute and doesnt mean anything, Layne is just jumping the gun...
What would the protein score be if they used other time stamps? The food could be digiested slower so maybe the scores don't rise as much but longer.
actually a meaningful comment....whey protein is indeed fast digesting compared to plant based proteins
Layne, if veggie protein POWDER is 75% as good as whey, how does protein IN veggies and beans compare to say meat protein? Is it half as good? 2 3rds as good?
Last question. Veggie protein is all isolate when I used to consume it. I don't think you can improve on absorption any more, can you? Maybe protein processing methods could be a topic for a video.
Thanks
Sooo my liver can store plant protein ??
That's pretty cool :)
I love whey protein concentrate but I may add some pea protein as well :)
Is there evidence that the higher level of leucine from whey protein equates to more gains compared to the blood leucine level from the plant protein
I have seen studies in the past measuring the blood protein levels of vegans vs omnivores and vegans had higher protein levels on average…… I’m not sure what to believe, but I want to believe that plant protein is good
it is :)
So what were the actual figures for leucine rather than % difference?
Layne, one question - why does my stomach gets incredibly bothered every time I drink whey protein (by that I mean that it get noisy and it feels like it is about to erupt) and it does not happen when I drink pea isolate protein? Is it possible that I am lactose intolerant? Thanks for the knowledge you share.
What fitness/trainer/nutrition course would you suggest for someone that can't study medicine because of some rules in his country...
As for that rule... Long story short
I went to eneneering high school and now i can't study medicine on university
Mac nutrition
So the whey protein has higher levels of "blood leucine"... but why are we interested in that? We should be looking at differences in muscle gains, right? Just because something is higher in the blood doesn't necessarily mean that it is doing the thing we want it to do. (You made this point with higher testosterone in fasted individuals in a previous video.)
Thx... Greetings from Denmark.
He is talking about blood leucine, and not lysine. Leucine is an essential amino acid that is integral in the initiation af protein synthesis, and is therefore used as a biomarker for it. Therefore, a higher plasma concentration of leucine usually correlates with a higher capacity for protein synthesis, and by extension muscle growth.
not just leucine, read the study
they looked at all the EAA levels in the blood, the total EAA concentrations in the blood were way higher with the whey isolate than with any of the plant protein blends DESPITE the plant protein blends having MORE protein and the same amount of EAA's and leucine.
muscle takes time to grow, it is very difficult to measure accurately
So how does this translate to whole foods?
Can you talk more about longevity, and cognitive performance in your channel?
Nice one bruh!
Cool video!
I mightn’t know much, and I haven’t looked at the results of the study, just a few tidbits which id like to be examined.
Firstly, although the peak was higher it was only examined in a 4 hour period, but plant proteins take longer to digest suggesting that if it was looked at over a 12 hour period the area under the curve may be much closer to the same with whey protein dropping off while the plant protein is still being digested and have a longer lasting curve.
It makes sense that animal proteins, mainly come plants in the first place and hence are predigested (and reused) which can be rebroken down faster the second time.
Thoughts? just spitballing
Thanks.
Whey protein is just a quicker digesting protein that’s pretty obvious based on the study
Thoughts on cricket protein
LMAO
BULLCRAP!! Where's your stud....oh, there it is... I'll take a ribeye over a giant bowl of chickpea tofu salad any day.
It's more about ethics & the environment rather than how much protein you consume.
@@Firstname_Surname that'd make sense if it didn't mean the murder of way more animals than cows pigs and chickens... Think about it, yes those animals are spared but if someone needs to consume more plant based products that means more production of crops meaning more death of bugs, critters and birds... Many studies out right now confirming this. So it seems that what lives are considered worth dying for our consumption depends on what vegans deem necessary..
@@Firstname_Surname and also the video is about basically debunking the myth that plant proteins is as good as animal based proteins, not ethics
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@@staxstirner contrary to what they may think lol
Is uour back pain gone now?
Anti-nutrients. What are they and what do they do?
Yes please!
Cooking gets rid of almost all of the anti nutrients, they don’t do much.
Chris Grant not really
Phytic acid, hinders nutrient absorption
Anti nutrients also are antioxidants and have anti-inflammatory properties. High levels of "anti-nutrient" consumption can prevent nutrient absorption, but they also can fight off cancer.
What about just consuming a pea protein or wheat protein isolate at one meal of the day and consume meat the rest of the day?
SEEEEEND IT TO ROGAAAN XD
Any tips for a good protein source? Dairy gives me eczema.
plant, such as soy and legumes in general
I've been reading the study but there is one thing that i don't understand. They are comparing whey proteïne which Comes from milk, vs 3 plant products. Wouldnt it be more logical to take the plant product that has the complete amino profile like soy?! I mean u want to compare the optimal proteïne sources, right?!
this study and this video taught us nothing new. we already knew that most plant proteins are less bioavailability. However, the question should be: can SOY problem hold a candle to animal protein, since it has been found to be 1:1 with animal protein?
Great video, as always. I recently heard that intermittent fasting might have benefits in a caloric surplus / maintenance. First I read that it doesn't have any benefits compared to staying in a caloric deficit. But when i heard this I got curious. Any thoughts?
Well, I think it’s easier to do a lean bulking phase... it’s harder to eat too much that way, i think...
peanut butter sandwiches every day everyday!!!
@biolayne In what way, is the strength training for Olympic lifts different from strength training for power lifters or strong men? How is it that they maintain a lean physique and lift such heavy weights ? Btw I am a newbie ..
Would hormones used in livestock have anything to do with this? 🤔
Hey Layne. I'm sure you've gotten this, but would you consider doing a full carnivore diet experiment for a month?
LMAO
Does this then mean that you only should count your animal based protein sources? Or for example that 20 grams of plant based protein should be counted as 10 grams?
It means that animal based sources should be your main sources of protein and plant based ones should be extra and/or complimentary
@@calloforestis3126 this is absolutely not true, and this video is honestly not stating a lot in regards to actual protein sources. Just a simple study on some blood numbers of amino acids. There is a much bigger picture when it comes to protein and honestly plants are the better option in general unless maybe youre trying to become the ultimate chicken nugget and dont care about living past 50 lmao
My only issue with whey (wpi) seems to be excessive gas... I know there’s no lactose in wpi so I don’t know what is causing that, potentially just too much protein in the diet?
You might be allergic/intolerant to whey. Yes, that is a thing.
I had the same issue with WPI and and WPC, I don't have issues with dairy though. I found that if I'm getting protein from whole foods (Meat, raw dairy, eggs) I have a much better time digesting everything without the excess "music"
I find this problem with a lot of powders and pills, I stick to whole foods.
Yeah whey makes me break out from one day to another. Doc says it can't be allergies because they take longer to manifest. Somehow i dont think he's correct. I have no issues with milk or cheese though. And whey isolate gives me a headache, although concentrate doesn't.
I'm sorry but by saying that Danone are unbiased is silly. I'm pretty sure they make most of their money from dairy cruelty!! And the ethical side remains an issue always if you're going to ingest animal products
Provide evidence for your claim or STFU
@@RideTheTrack which claim? Are you saying the dairy industry isn't cruel...? I feel like even if I did provide evidence for it you wouldn't watch it 🙄
You say they make most of their money from dairy cruelty. Now prove your claim
Any difference in muscle hypertrophy?
Nope.
That video was very good! Looks like you lost some weight! looking good!
Notice that one sleeve is rolled up and another let down.
1/2 longsleeve, 1/2 shortsleeve
this is awesome. dude you should go on Rogan's show and debate James Wilks along with his expert he brings. That would be a very informative episode. It is interesting how after that debate Joe still went carnivore for at least a month to see whats up.
Rogan is all in on the low-carb stuff, though.
@@kalenberreman8252
Rogan loves his carbs, he also loves his meat.
@@takeoffyourblinkers He may eat carbs sometimes, but he shills out for the low-carb crowd constantly. I'm not saying I care, he's hardly an authority on the subject.
@@kalenberreman8252
Him being an authority wasn't your point tho, you said he is a low carb shill, when he clearly isn't.
@@takeoffyourblinkers Yeah man, he is. He brings up low-carb/keto/carnivore shit all of the time. He's very clearly bought into it.
Seems simple don’t even need soy but makes it a bit easier. just legumes a grain and a bit of eaas with the meal
Everybody ought to take a look at the study. Further research might figure out what lead to the results.
I made a comment above (or below), but I think it may be because they used PDCAAS rather than DIAAS, so the protein mixing effect of all proteins (specifically whey in this context) wasn't taken into account. I very well could be wrong as I am not an expert in the slightest, but I simply don't understand why the study used PDCAAS (I was of the belief that this was considered outdated)
@@TheOrionMusicNetwork Even more to look at.
@@TheOrionMusicNetwork you missed the whole point of the study
Is it optimal for anabolism /anticatabolism to take whey protein before a morning lifting session? Or immediately after?
eaas + ch during. theres a study on it google it
This doesn’t necessarily imply greater long term MPS rates or muscle growth though. Also, it seems a little misleading to frame this as “plant vs animal proteins” since whey is actually unique among other animal proteins in its ability to digest rapidly and spike blood amino acid levels quickly. Whey is just the best overall protein source.
I'd like to see the same methodology applied to real foods, like steak vs soy tempeh.
@@alex_stanley "This doesn’t necessarily imply greater long term MPS rates or muscle growth though"
Except it does and we have data actually showing that MPS rates are higher with whey/dairy than with even the highest quality plant proteins available like soy protein isolate, it's not even close actually.
Plant protein is half the price of whey, so the cost to protein balances out. Then just add a BCAA supplement, and you are good to go.
Eating more food... that's the bad thing.
Because everyone who is into fitness loves small meals.
even eating more food doesn't seem to help, did you forget that the study equalled amino acid content between blends and that the plant protein blends had 10g more protein than the 24g whey bolus?
and still the plant protein blends(extremely processed powder form, not whole foods which are even worse) achieved 30-40% less amino acid provision.
Medgang here Whey is superior to soy protein, but no difference between whey and pea protein
jissn.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12970-014-0064-5
Food as meat compared to supplements. As supplements, whey (milk) or peas, rice, seeds. All proteins, complex, many amino acids, probably all the same but plant protein is cheaper. Plant protein has fiber, but that is good to move food along in your gut.
Ceruloplasmin-bound copper, retinol, and fat soluble nutrients for the win!
A little magnesium and two pandemic deficiencies fall at once.
But does trhis also mean that protein from meats and fish are better than vegetable proteins?
that depends on what you mean by "better". in general, plant proteins are "better" for you
If non-essential amino acid are no essential then we can go with EAA's instead of whey know. when 50% of protein is from non essential amino acid so we are literally wasting 50% of money spent on whey
your other organs like the skin need those non essential amino acids otherwise you are gonna be relying solely on conversion rates of essential amino acids into non essential ones thus increasing essential amino acid requirements anyway.
@@draker696 thank you
wht dont you talk about Soy protein Isolate with PDCAAS score of 1. Such a cherrypicking you did.
Why focus just on protein when redmeat can give you so much else at the same time
Taurine
Carnosine
Creatine
Carnitine
choline
Heme iron
CoQ10
Literally vegetarians have the highest coq10 levels, by far not even close.
Choline isn't a problem, carnisine and taurine are produced by human bodies, so is creatine, but indeed we can eat 5mg per day extra for some benefit.
Edward Peeters I will still keep off plants
www.bbc.com/future/article/20200127-how-a-vegan-diet-could-affect-your-intelligence
@@GustavMahlerHorn A good number of the population have MTHFR, so their bodies cannot produce enough creatine. They may need to supplement 5-6 grams of creatine if they do noy eat meat.
Just one extra mile minus the suffering
Good info. Some customers be vegans no matter what, but know its easier to get them take little more protein, so there strenght gains get better 😁👌
Thanks brah. I trust your analysis of the study. Just not what I wanted to hear.😢
Could you make a longer video that explains how plant protein differ from animal protein, and maybe the cons and pros of both.
I doubt there will ever be a truly unbiased pro and con from Biolayne 🙄 either because he likes meat too much or is worried his audience does...
Or the facts that a plant based diet wipes the floor with animal products... Only one of them groups contain known carcinogens aftersll
@@JGlenwright are you trying to say there are no edible plants with carcinogens in them? And what about bioavailability? Or making sure, the average person, who's sedentary doesn't get constipated from too much fiber?
There are pros and cons with all diets, but there are more cons with the ones that exclude many different types of food
@@JGlenwright vegetables have no carcinogens, what about favism episodes in children just from eating fava beans? Oh right, it doesn't give them cancer, just kills them from their red blood cells exploding while circulating in their veins.
Nope, vegetables are all benign, all right.
@@JGlenwright and let's not forget celiac disease, caused by vegetable protein called gluten found in wheat, barely, and rye, and some say oats, gluten sensitivity, peanut allergies, and fiber triggered irritable colon.
Nope, no problems with vegetable proteins and fiber. Nothing to see here. Move on.
Layne, where are you getting this 20 to 30% less efficient. The abstract says, "28-35% lower response". And yes, I read more than just the abstract. The figure I provide is for the leucine concentration.
The other figure, time to peak in irrelevant because it was the same between the veggie proteins and WPI.
All and all, I'm not sure how much this study contributes to science as it compared apples to oranges. The study itself recognizes this downfall, although it attempts to downplay it by suggesting isolate veggie protein is unpalatable. It even goes on to speak to other studies with contradictory results if memory doesn't fail me.
As for veggie protein isolate not being a thing or tasty ... Well call me a liar, but I'm sure I used to consume soy isolate 30 years ago. It tasted like flour dry, but mixed into fruit juice or milk, or even paired with whey in said products, there were no taste issues, at all. So all this sounds like an excuse to not do proper science, and perhaps maintain whey hegemony in the public's mind.
I only trust studies on myself
it makes sense that milk protein provokes a significant responce. Why? its only the first thing we get as [baby] humans. Too bad i can't buy a gallon of breast milk. Someone let me know if he reviews a study funded by an independent.
Can’t wait to post a link to this on all those “have you seen Game Changers yet” comments on FB
Is TVP comparable to meat?🙏🏻👹🏋🏻
hydrolysed protein powder was the worst tasting supplement i ever bought. Nasty ass stuff.
When ever a company invests in research, they do so with the motivation to make money from that investment which corrupts the data full stop. Unless the research runs counter to a positive narative or falls in line with unbiased research I wouldn't even consider it as evidence. The company having a plant based product says nothing about their insentives other then them seaking to diversify their income. It's important to recognize that operation costs of the dairy industry are rediculously high when compared to that of plantbased alterantives, so a company that chooses to invest in both inheriently must invest much more in their dairy products in order for them to yeild (the plant based stuff is just like their side peice in terms of investment), this research is likely just an extention of their biased investment in dairy as they stand to loose much more in terms of that investment.
Side note: I don't think a 30% increase in protein blood levels that may or may not result in significant muscle mass gains is worth the health costs of dairy (wich I doubt I need to list to you) especially considering you can just eat more of the plant based stuff, most plant based folks are used to eating more anyway.
Though I avoid red meat for its high percentage of fat and or saturated fat I purchased Laura’s beef patties to supplement a stew with protein, along with a scoop of whey isolate (25 grams protein).
The patty was 0 grams carbs, 8 grams fat (40% saturated) and 22 grams of protein.
A Doctor Praegor imitation beef vegetable burger is 8 grams carbs, 11 grams fat ( only 1.5 percent saturated) and 21 or 22 grams protein.
However since the best plant protein pales in comparison to animals, I’d have to add a burger and a half to the stew to get the equivalent protein of the beef, adding calories to the stew and having to cut back on vegetables. Plus more fat = less heart disease prevention.
On the other-hand, a Marathon spiced chicken breast patty has, 4 grams carbs, 7 grams fat ( 20% saturated) and 26 grams protein!
Turkey, chicken, salmon, egg whites, tuna and whey are my picks! Lean red meat okay on occasion.
Danone being the primary funder makes this a little sus imo. And that's coming from someone with 10kg of whey protein sitting in their room right now.
About half of Danone's sales come from low protein or certain AA free products for their Metabolic range for patients with conditions such as PKU. I work for Danone, their dairy section isn't as profitable and as such have no preference to which protein source should perform better for their own incentives.
@@aevans148 Fair enough, cheers for clarifying that.
Thanks no thanks, just show me the abstract. #jk
lol Conflicts of Interest. danone power.