BOOSTED MEDIA SIM RACING PC EXPLAINED - How We Run Triple 4K Screens!
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- Опубликовано: 6 июл 2024
- One of the most common questions we get asked is "How do you run triple 4K screens with such high-quality graphics and high frame rates?", so today I'm going to give you a behind the scenes look at the PC responsible for running our sim rig, what components we chose and why, then take you through the performance in detail.
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#simracingpc #pcbuild #3090
Intro: 0:00
Dual PC Setup: 0:58
Open Bench Table: 2:26
CPU: 4:19
RAM: 6:16
Motherboard: 6:50
CPU Cooling: 8:56
Graphics Card: 10:50
Power Supply: 16:34
Performance Overview: 19:46 
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As a complete PC hardware and software nerd coming to your channel for sim stuff, I am continually impressed with your knowledge of PC hardware and software configs.
Thanks for share it! It's nice to hear that I'm not the only one who discard amd at the time to do something seriously where stability/reliability is priority over high values on unreal benchmarks and youtubers honest opinions.
As always great content!
Awesome. As usual great info.
Very informative thanks!!!
yep thanks for the vid..i will be running pretty much the same pc but smaller screen and VR at times...all i know is there are so many tweeks and adjustments and math and , well it gets a bit daunting and overwhelming ,im not a tech guy just a mellow sim hobbyist..so vids like this really help me understand the workings a lot better so thanks...hard to find sim build orientated stuff.. tons on gaming but i don't game only sim...so any content that helps us noobs and untechy guys really helps...cheers mate
Thanks for that, Will! Been wondering about the primary PC you’re running ever since I started watching your vids a couple months ago!
Super interesting. Thanks 👍
soo helpfull thankyou!!
Great presentation as always Will. It did make me laugh the fact that you say you are bottlenecked by your 3090. 🤣 Here's me sitting here with my 1050ti 🤣
great explanation, thanks for making this. My friend's PC is having a problem that sounds identical to your power supply problem. Do you have a video that dives deeper into how you diagnosed this?
If no deep dive video exists, could you tell me how often your pc was rebooting? Did you find it would sometimes happen even when the GPU shouldn't be maxed out (i.e. not many effects happening in game)? Did you find any other solutions, such as turning down graphics settings? Thanks in advance!
Completely with you on Asus, I've used their motherboards since at least Pentium 3 days and I've given almost all of them away working to friends kids to play with at the end of their useful life. I think my Asus P6T-Delux gave up not so long ago (though tbh it could be something else but i'm short on 12 year old parts to swap out and test it with!). Also love those Corsair PSUs, nice to have monitoring in Windows with its control app, power the PC with a UPS and you get the readings going in at AC and the readings on the DC out from the PSU and you've got all the data you could ever need.
Nice flex! Great set up
Hey Will. Thanks for the info. ACC now had dlss with new update. Hopefully that helps a ton with fps.
Love, Love, Love !!
Have you considered running dual GPUs? With one for the centre monitor and the other for the two outer ones?
How do you manage your usb game controllers in windows, especially with button mapping in games?
May you please recommend a PC setup for a beginner. I'm planning to just play AC and F1 with a Thrustmaster TMX Pro and adding a DOF Reality H2 motion platform later. Single screen.
Do you have a video of your ACC grafic setup?
Will you be doing the same video with the 4090
I'm running a FTW3 Hybrid 3090. Had to swap the PSU out because of transient spikes. Its a beast, but there is no headroom for OC'ing. I actually did a custom power curve and undervolted it and found that it boosts better. Not really a massive uplift, but it does keep temps down even lower.
Great build, Will. How do you guys deal with dust, both with this and your prior open build?
It’s never really been a problem. There’s not a lot of dust in the room. I just give it a blow out with compressed air once a month or so.
ASUS also tend to use higher quality components, better component choice. Like some brands substitute capacitors on the back of the CPU for a couple big ones, but ASUS use up to 20-30 individual smaller capacitors.
Also worth mentioning, you really want an individual power cable for each input of your GPU from the PSU. If you see one cable with 2 connectors on it and think "yeah I'll use this because it will look cleaner too rather than 2 cables" then you should expect problems. The 3090 has 3 inputs, so you should use a PSU with 3 individual power outputs, splitters are out of the question.
Hi Will; Another great video ...you're the King of Instruction. I apologize for the lengthy question but I need some advice. If you remember me ...I'm the old guy from Canada who tried to emulate your system ...on a smaller scale (budget) ...lol. I've followed all your instructions & tweaks like the Windows 10 "Ultimate Performance" settings ...but my FPS sucks!!!!
I've reached the limit for upgrades with my PC I feel. I don't see the extra value in the 3090 so I'm sticking with my 3080. The weak link in my system are my three 4 K displays (43 inches).
They were cheap but looked dang good on display at the Electronics outlet ...so I bought them. They are TV's with a 60 Hz refresh rate. I didn't see that as an issue as I didn't expect the GPU to handle much beyond that ...& it DOESN'T! The resolution in Nvidia's control panel is 12288 x 2160 ...I have the refresh rate set to 60Hz ...however; on many Sims like ACC I seldom see anything above 45Hz. I'm running the 10900KF ...as you were & I also over clock to 5.2. & my temps stay down around 50 Celsius. I use Fusion software ...in an Alienware system.
How in heck do you run those monster displays @240 Hz????!!!! Our systems are nearly identical.
Also ...how did you adjust the stretched skewing on your side monitors?
& I've upgraded to Load Cell pedals ...they are FANTASTIC! Thanks again for all the help Will.
Ok ...I jumped the gun on the resolution question ...thinking you were getting MUCH higher FPS. ...
ACC usually runs at 60Hz on my system except in unusually taxing situations. So I'm ok with that ...UNTILL
I upgrade those shitty 60Hz displays ...lol ...thanks Brother
I really enjoy your videos! I'm more of a sim racer than a computer guy, and I usually struggle with the latter. I heard you mention resolution scaling a few times. I only use iracing, and I run triple 27 144hz screens, and I am always looking for a little performance. When you scale down the resolution, are you doing it in the iracing graphics config, windows display, or nvidia control panel, or all? I scaled iracing's recommended resolution down to the next lowest available option, but didn't change anything else. Is this the right way to go about getting more performance, or am I doing the right thing? Thanks for making this video!
Hi, do a RUclips search for Windows Optimisation on yt and use a channel called fr33thy follow his guide he also has some overclocking guides if you want to follow through on those also. Following this guide will get your nvidia control panel settings sorted as well as everything you should have set in windows also. With your question on resolution scaling you should have that set just in iRacing. I don’t really play iRacing so don’t know if they have certain settings but if they have DLSS enable that. Best of luck with your rig and keep racing 👍
@@LazyAech Thanks for your reply. After writing this, I went into my app.ini and lowered my resolution by 20% to 6144x1152 @144hz. I have my FPS capped @144, and it hardly ever drops below that even down the pit straights. The lower resolution really isn’t even that noticeable to me, and the FPS gains are definitely worth it! My MSI machine is 5 years old, overclocked to 4.7hz running 2 1070s in SLI. Very happy with the performance now!
Been looking for a good open air case/chassis/test bench for a while, That little thing looks pretty neat, will definitely go on the maybe list. Would a Noctua NH-D15 match that AIO? It's beaten a 280 mm aio I had on a 5800x with light overclocks. And less noise.
Sustained thermal load performance should be pretty similar, those EK AIOs are some of the best I’ve seen tested by guys like Steve at Gamers Nexus and the D15 needs no introduction if you’re a PC enthusiast
@@YayDanMan Thats actually helpful. I like the design of the EK AIO's and the missus will need a new rig soon...
Will you be making a video about the black Friday P1 wheel mate?
Won’t be. They don’t have any review samples available
Hi guys great video. Are you able to explain how you get the best resolutions over NDI (I'm assuming that's how you capture your triple screens to the streaming PC)? I've been having big issues with overlays and running in windowed mode on iRacing, so I'd love to see how you guys capture you gaming screen and then if you run overlays while gaming, how you set it up. I'm seeing big frame drops in windowed vs full screen. As soon as I have simhub open and overlays active, it drops from 170fps to 60fps average.
We don’t capture the triple screens. That’s all recorded with a helmet mounted GoPro. But yes we use NDI for capturing replays, etc. we have a seperate video explaining how that’s setup. Hasn’t changed since then.
@@boostedmedia thank you mate. Sorry I meant to reference your replay files. Much appreciated
What screens you use? Displayport on a TV??
long story short, going to be running triple 1440p monitors (G7 32"). Trying to figure out if the 3090 is worth the extra $1000..current setup is a Ryzen 9 3900XT, 64GB (CL16 3200), on an MSI Gaming Pro Carbon AC. I have been getting so many mixed reviews that I'm unable to come to a solid conclusion. If I’m running 3 monitors @ 1440 and playing F1 2021, ACC, and AMS 2..would the 3090 make a noticeable difference over a 3080? I know ACC is a very demanding sim and many people have said if I’m playing ACC to just go with a 3090 but I want to know if its actually worth the extra $1000 with a noticeable difference. Keep in mind, this pc will also be used for graphic design (PS, PR, AE).. Also on PCpartpicker, with my build, the power supply seems to be fine for a 3090 using a 750watt but I can't imagine that should be enough to ensure I dont trip the PSU.. any suggestions?
Could someone tell me how to connect three 4k 144hz monitors at the same time to a 4090? On RUclips there are many videos where they show setups with 4k triples at 144hz, so there must be some way to do it, but no one says how to connect them. There is a limitation on the 4090 and only two monitors can be activated with DSC at a time. I'm trying triple 4k for simracing, but I'm about to give up.
I have got 4090 zotac and tripple Asus rog pg27uqr.
Does the 4090 ROG strix allow these 3 monitors to be connected?
Could I run triple 4K 27" in let's say AC with a rtx2080 Super trio? I want 60fps+
Could I just downscale the resolution ingame by 50% or something? I don't have AC installed at the moment
Im thinking to go for triple monitors too, im thinking about the 32" samsung odyssey g5 144hz QHD. And PC hardware: MSI MPG B550 Gaming Plus Motherboard, AMD Ryzen 9 5900X, Corsair iCUE H100i Elite Capellix Water Cooling, Corsair Vengeance PRO RGB SL32GB (3600MHz) Memory, MSI GeForce RTX 3080 Ti GAMING X TRIO 12G, Gigabyte GP-P850GM 850W, WD Blue SN550 2TB. Would the PC spec's be suffisant enough to run it all smootly?
Yep. I'm running triple QHD on a 9900k and 1070ti w/ g-sync it's nice, 70~100 FPS AC*. Better to wait for RTX 4000 series if possible
Hey I just wanted to ask does your 3090 work better at 4K? I am runnen 3 1440 monitors now on my 3080 and getting in acc like 60 to 80 maybe 90 fps it feels kind of low when you have like 100 most of the time at trippel 4K
Keep in mind Will mentioned that resolution scaling is @ 70% which is just above 1440p .
So he is not getting 100fps @ 4K …. Hopefully technology will catch up soon and then it’s 😍
Guys a couple of questions if you don’t mind. Does the hdd you use play much difference? Also, regarding windows 10 is this optimised for gaming?
HDD/SSD/PCIE m.2 affects load times. SSD is much faster than HDD for initial loading. PCIE m.2 is even more faster, but is not required today and you probably won't see improvement in real world. If you have sufficient RAM, and reload a track and cars, they will be in RAM and that will reduce your load times, especially from HDD. HDD/SSD/PCIE m.2 does not affect FPS in racing SIMs. It might affect in future large open world games in a couple of years. Summary: for your game drive go with SSD, as game load times (load of track and cars) will be much faster.
Don’t you use fidelity fx upscaling in assetto corsa content manager for an extra few frames it works for nvidia cards too
Do you think a Intel 5 10400F with a NVIDIA 3060 12GB would be enough for a triple 2k at around 90/110 fps?
Thanks, awesome channel!
i have a 3440x1440 screen, with a 3700x and a 2070S (roughly equivalent but a bit faster as yours, i think) and i hit with medium settings 80ish fps. you could enable super resultion and emulate an triple screen setup in your nvidia drivers and test your performance before commiting to triple screens
@@MYTHofficialChannel thax a lot mate
Ooh, future review into if the 12th gen architecture has a benefit sounds super neat! If the E cores are a success that would be quite fascinating, given I’ve yet to see any conclusive evidence they’re much help in gaming situations and that could be quite the game-changer for however long it takes AMD to respond one would hope 😅
Not really. At that res it's almost entirely gpu bottleneck. Almost any modern cpu can meet 16.6 ms frame times.
@@SlyNine oh I’m aware that Will’s monitor setup on the rig is likely to eliminate any gains, but if Will can spare some time to test with just one of his 4K monitors enabled, or perhaps a lower resolution config, that’s more relevant data to the audience
Great video. I'm surprised you're running a RTX 3090 for three 4K displays. I would have thought you'd be running a 4090? Or have you upgraded to a 4090 since this video?
4090 wasn’t out when this video was made. We upgraded the day they were released. :) The setup has come a long way since this video. Have a look here: ruclips.net/video/YX54Iux66-Y/видео.html
You definitely don't want a GPU to fail at this point. 😅 Lucky that you got another 3090. 👌
We were so lucky we found one at short notice. The GPU dying was literally my worst nightmare . That and the screens.
@@boostedmedia Heheh I can imagine! 😳
Best way is to get factory waterblocked cards and use external water cooling with quick disconnects.
12th Gen 100% worth it. I am running a 12700k on Windows 10 and do not see the point in Windows 11 as 10 is handling it perfectly. That said, I have only been running iRacing since upgrading and am seeing up to 9 parked cores that are just sitting at 0% along with 30-40% on my 4 E Cores (running Racelabs, Trading paint, Mu for telemetry, Discord, VRS tool, Afterburner, HWmonitor, and google drive as the main apps in the background).
The 12gen is a great chip. But the things you mention would be almost exactly the same in a ryzen.
@@SlyNine understood. So please send me a screenshot of the Ryzen with 9 cores at 0% usage while playing iracing with the same amount of background tasks running as I am.
I am wondering If you could double the graphic performance by using two 3090 graphic cards.
No GPU performance doesn’t scale very well with multiple GPUs these days unfortunately.
Would it improve performance running 2 cards (non SLI) with one screen on one card and the other 2 screens on the 2nd card?
Where do I get 55' monitors with 4k @ 144hz with gsync?
We’re running Omen X Emperium monitors.
im running a 70" 4k with 2, 42" in portrait off a rtx 3060 12 gig. unfortunately, the 70" tv is acting up, "refurbished" works great in 1440P on star citizen.
How long do you think before the TV screen requirement is a thing of the past and VR goggles and GPU performance are good enough to get rid of the screens entirely? Or will there always be that disconnect in "lag" between what you feel in your steering wheel versus what you actually see through the goggles?
They RMA'd the card after you water blocked it?
Yep.
I thought to run triple 4k I would see multiple GPU's, but then I dont know PC tech.
ACC is very demanding, but once you find the right setting it is very unlikely you have frame drops. It is the only upside of this game. For example with an old system (I have i7 6700 and 1080) I found a setting for 60 FPS in all climatic conditions. The benchmark was obviously night and monsoon. Once I got the 60 fps there, it is very solid and nothing can move me from that 60 fps mark I set for my system. Ironically I have more struggle with AC in starting grid for example, where I can have huge FPS drops (but with AC I usually average a lot more, I am almost all the time over 144). Anyway the real struggle for ACC is to have solid very high FPS. If you want to run 144 fps on a 144hz screen, for example. Well, in that situation you will struggle for sure. To say it all, it is possible only in single screen. With multiple screen you can almost forget it, also in 1080p.
11700k + 3090 120 fps in vr all ultra
@@Daniele858585 si ma innanzitutto hai 3000 euro di PC, e secondo li fai solo grazie all'ultimo aggiornamento che al momento del post non era ancora uscito.
@@andreaiachini7517 sul quest 2 da mo che li fai
Il pc veramente si è ripagato da solo ora è in attivo
Roll on the 4090 that will work amazingly
The 12 gen won't have any advantage because of the different types of cores, outside of power usage. On the older cpus or ryzen they are all performance cores. Making half of them more efficient isn't going to help split the load.
Not if you manually set affinity. But what we’ve found is often stutters can occur if a program running in the background suddenly spikes load on one of the cores also running the game. May help there. I guess we’ll see.
@@boostedmedia yes. Settng affinity can help but that's true for all cpus (I set vr games to real time)
The 12gen will be faster, I just mean having 2 different types of cores won't be what helps.
@@boostedmedia because you still have many unused cores. Have you set windows to performance?
It's a shame ACC doesn't support multi-GPU, like Project Cars, Raceroom, F1 and Autobolista. Two 3090s would easily handle 4k triple.
Wanna see 3090 in SLI lol
A 3090 runs 4k???
be careful, the e core of the 12th gen processors can't be handled properly by windows 10 scheduler but only by windows 11. This is not a joke. So unless you're planning on going windows 11 which i absolutely advise not to, do not buy those new cpus.
Not really. The test show that running on windows 11 with a gen 12 is slower than windows 10. Check out Gamers Nexus channel.
@@logo8009 as windows scheduler and games get more optimized. There will likely be situations where windows 10 struggles.
But even the e cores are decent, so nothing is likely to kill the chip
@@SlyNine The main issue is windows 11 running ad ware and tracking that are slowing the over all performance down. It's not big in the test but, slightly slower in some applications. Your right it will get better when optimized.
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