thx Dave for sharing your thinking process. I also went to 27“ tripple setup . for me the footprint of the rig was same important. I even run 1080p only and for my eyes it is good enough pixel density and my GPU is happy as well not being forced to generate too much of those pixels ;) .. cheers
Glad to see others happy with 1080p. I decided to go 1080p because I would rather upgrade my graphics card in the future to get maximum frames with high graphics settings than feel forced to run at a native 2k.
@@jericosha2842 Also higher than native resolutions can do the trick with 1080p monitors and/or Anti Aliasing plus sharpening stuff on top (reshade), but well with 24"ers you would need to come closer to your screens in order to have a 1:1 feeling like in real, which in turn would make the pixel density more visible. I would definitely go for 27"ers.
I finally made the move to triple 27" monitors. At first I had the monitors 110cm from my eyes. When properly setup I was able to place my car right on the edge of the track when needed, and the in sim elevation changes were incredible. The last hill on Road America in RaceRoom felt like I was climbing a moutain, Brands Hatch's drops felt like being in a roller coaster. Getting close to cars in front of me, the cars filled the screen and sold the illusion of being close. As nice as that was, I still had issues with seeing apexes sitting that far back from my screens, so I pull the monitors closer when I am racing. They are now 75cm from my eyes thanks to my Fanatec wheelbase not being able to fit under the monitor. I was expecting the same large scale feeling out of the new eye distance, but after using multiple FOV calculators and getting my sims dialed in, things just seem so much smaller. Not only that but placing the car is tougher. I'm giving myself time to adjust to this but I don't feel as confident in this area. I am wondering what happened, and why did the perception of size vary so much if both setups were properly calculated?
Mathematically there is a correct fov, but don't get too hung up on that. Set up your triples so it looks right to you. If the numbers are off a little don't worry about it 👍
Great information here that's still, and always will have the most important information for those triple screening. Prices change on monitors and new GPU's come out that can pump more pixels, but in my opinion, the MOST important decision in going with a multi monitor setup (simming, gaming or productivity) is the footprint. My first triple setup was with a Matrox G400 using a Matrox Trip2Go unit decades ago with 26" screens. Much later I had built a very expensive 744 (way before it was common, and using Epic cards and Epic programming). It was 2002 and I had $1400 in Project Magenta software to mimic the instruments with only open sky on the projector screens. Now, I love my HP Reverb G2, but just got back into triples. I have three 4k Samsung 28" Odyssey G70A's. Keeps me under 5' wide on my rig which is a must. Having them just like you do, right over my yoke and so close to my face I can appreciate my 4k screens detail. What got me back into 3 screening was I helped a friend get three 55" Oled TV's going on his setup. Both of us are more into aviation sims. I loved it, but his screens have to be far away. That wasn't on my mind at the time, but weeks late, on my one 28" 4k Odyssey G70A, I was practically drooling at the detail. So much more crisp and detailed on my 28" Computer monitors than his 4k Oleds (I love my 65" Sony Bravia Oled for movies and gaming from afar), plus they're right in front of me so I see soooooo much more than anyone with larger anythings. For those interested, I have a 3090 Ti, and I do not run all three in 4k, nor do I run them all at 144hz. I run only the center screen at 4k and the two sides at 1440. Sometimes all three at 1440 due to my beast of a comp screaming. My room gets way too hot and the drop doesn't look any different to me on the side screens, and never notice when all three are at 1440. Had I to do it over again, I would have bought 3 1440 native monitors. I went this route because I already had one of them. Flight simmers that use other screens for their replica pits, such as even Winwings awesome F18 Top Gun Mip that uses three USB 3 screens, need to know that all of these things with resolutions will demand a ton. Even a 4090 trip screens on 4k isn't worth the tradeoff to me for the added heat in the room for 4k vs 2k. Dropping a 4k monitor to 2k gets lots of flak saying it's blurry is nonsense in my experience (since 2k is a fine ration drop from 4k), but having native 2k screens with 240hz refresh for other games would be my choice now since as I said, 4k in MSFS vs 2k isn't worth the tradeoff.
I agree with Dave 27 is a great size. Going any bigger and you are just going for the wow factor as you are just seeing things that don't matter inside the car. I went with 1080p monitors about 3-4 years ago as my 1070 could run it fine but I wasn't going to be getting enough power to warrant 144hz/1440p
If both monitors have the same res a larger monitor just allows you to place it further away and get the same pixel density and fov. 27 inch monitors are fine but you need them close to your eyes which can give people eyestrain and obv requires then to be above the wheel base.
Thanks Dave! I've been waiting for this video. Seems like the 27" monitors are the best middle of the road for screen size, unless you want to go big. You have definitely helped me to make a decision on my monitor upgrade.
A bigger monitor does not have to be further away from your eyes to keep a 1:1 ratio so everything looks in proportion at all. As long as you adjust the FOV in game the game calculates the correct size to display everything to get the 1:1 ratio no mater how far away the screens are. All that happens if you place a 32" screen where a 27" screen used to be is you get a little more displayed around the edge of where the 27" screen used to be. Everything that's displayed on the 32" screen is exactly the same size as it was on the 27", there's just a bit more displayed around the edges.
The FOV adjustment in game adjusts for this. That's why you can get a larger FOV with larger monitors than you can with smaller monitors - if you keep the distance from your eyes to the centre monitor the same and you don't move the larger monitors further away. The whole point of an in game FOV adjuster is to get everything looking 1:1 relative to whatever distance the monitor is away from you. You set your games FOV up to the angle that a FOV calculator gives you relative to your screen size and distance from your eyes don't you Dave? Your FOV always looks good anyway.
As someone who is starting to get into sim racing and has a small space available in a townhouse, this was a great reference point for monitor size. Thank you
I've been running triple +1 24" monitors in 5860x1080 for the past few years. I find now with a 3090, I can have maximum graphics in most games, with around 120 fps. I'm considering going to 27" monitors, so thanks for putting this video together Dave. 👍
my iRacing with RTX 3090 run my triple 1440p @120-160 fps with settings medium/high + 4x anti-aliasing + 16x anisotropic. The 3090 is a beast and iRacing is not really demanding
@@YouThober Nice one mate. I usually race ACC, AMS2 and Raceroom. AMS2 is fairly well optimised, so I get much higher fps than in ACC which is a hog when there are lots of cars.
I used to have triple 27 inches, and it was pretty good. My upgrade to 32 inches was one of the best things in terms of immersion. Things are bigger, just like in real life. I am sitting approx 78cm-80cm away from the screen and have no intentions to go bigger as it would look like driving a bus, plus I would have to sit further away. And yes, I had to upgrade my GPU to run 1440p at 144hz. Not going any bigger or smaller anymore. This is my sweet spot and recommendation.
Mind if I ask what gpu your using to run the triple 1440p monitors? In the market later this year for a new gpu and just want to make sure its sufficient. Thanks!
@@kizermergenschroer5096 I am using 3090 not because it was required but because I bought it for excellent price. You could easily run with 3080 or possibly 3070 or 3060. This is something that you might need to double check.
@@kizermergenschroer5096 I'm running triple 32" 1440p with a 3070 overclocked and I have everything tweeked as much as possible in nvidia controls but it's just not quite enough to be awesome but will still run at high settings at around 75 fps with dlss or other aids. I would TOTALLY recommend getting atleast a 3080-3090 or waiting for the next gen if the wallet supports that. Different conditions also can drain the fps like rain and fog so you always need that extra buffer in available power . I only got a 3070 cause no stock available for better at the time hope this helps.
Many thanks for putting this video together Dave. Very informative. I thought you'd never do it, you teased us way before Christmas when you first got the new monitors!
27's are all i have ever run for years and as said they are the perfect size, won't break the bank for a decent set of them and and the FOB allows you to stay pretty close not taking up any more room then a rig already takes up. Good video.
Digging up a buried post here. Are you still running your Dell monitors? Are those flat? I'm looking at the 2722 version, they've got a slight curve to them, wondering if flat would be better
I'm using 43" tv's works great. I was using a 72" for my main and 2 43" ones in portrait mode on the sides but this new way is easier for NVIDIA surround view.
@@Lee-xs4dj Oh boy... * a thunder just struck, some computer nerd god just got angry I know what you mean, a too high fov makes it look like using a fish eye lense, but fov as such is simply the field of view in degrees, and it must absolutely be adjusted to your distance eye to monitor, as well as monitor size.
I totally agree, bigger is not necessarily better. It has a lot to do with what we want and can have in our room/wallet. I would just make a change to your rig, I'd cover it up like a dome. The immersion is perhaps greater that way. No 'distractions' behind the monitors.
3x1440p requires quite a GPU to power it in most games. I guess it's fine for simracing as racing games in general are less demanding on the hardware but good luck running that setup in Microsoft Flight Simulator, DCS or IL2 Sturmovik without at least 4090 (3090Ti can't handle it) to get 60fps. For majority of players, 3x1080p is much more viable option IMHO (also 27'' 1080p 165Hz IPS Dell monitors with G-Sync and FreeSync are available brand new at 129GBP). For anyone considering the triple 1440p setup, consider that it's 30% more pixels than single 4k display - check if your current hardware provides you with enough overhead. If you can barely run your game of choice on 4k resolution, it will work even worse on 3 monitors.
i have the 240hz version of the benq mobiouz 27" and I can attest to the quality of the monitor. The picture is perfect and the built in speakers are also very good.
I really didn't understand your comment on the 32's in front of the wheel base. I myself run 34" triples and run in behind the monitors but, use a extender to move the wheel out so I can have the monitors lower. That would be the only reason I would think of. I sit 27" from the screen with a 55 degree angle and a 165 FOV. It's like you could a person preference like you said. As for me my eyes are going and it's hard to sit that close to the monitors for me. I'm thinking your right Dave it's what works for you. Love the channel. I think a FOV video to explain to people that really just don't know. about a 1 to 1 FOV.
@Logo 800 same as me. I think Dave is more limited by space. I have my triple 32in screens in front of my motor right above my Simcore 105mm spacer and it looks amazing
Good advice Dave. I'm just getting into sim racing. Triple 27's fit on my desk perfectly. I don't have room for a dedicated rig. I've got a new PC on order with an RTX 3070 to push the pixels around. Subbed
Currently running a dual monitor 27inch setup (center and right screen for a full dash view) while I save dosh for number 3. 27inches is absolutely a sweet spot without taking up a full room of space
Great video Dave! One thing I would recommend is to stay at 1080p in iRacing. Unfortuntaely iRacing's graphics engine is ancient and is still very much more CPU bound than GPU. Even with my OC'd 11700k and a 3080 and triple 32", It still struggles at some tracks with a full grid to keep 60fps even at triple1080p. I couldn't imagine what that would be like with a triple 1440p! That's the unfortunate old backend coding of iRacing. IMHO, fps is far more important in these types of sims than high resolution and eye candy.
im forced to assume something is setup wrong. im running a much lesser system and can run at those resolutions and higher at well over 60fps. maxed out in vr i get better than 90fps stable on the quest 2 at 1.2x supersample. out of a 5800x and a rtx 2080. you have 40% more gpu performance than me. your cpu isnt creating a bottle neck at 3k resolution when youre running a 3080. or at least not at 60fps. something HAS to be setup wrong. i personally run a 1440p and 2x 1200p screens for my triples and never have a problem keeping high frame rate. ever. and you have 40% more gpu than me lol.
Higher resolution should barely affect CPU load. The CPU and GPU are doing completely different tasks and resolution is almost completely GPU bound as its the graphics card thats actually pushing the pixels. The CPU is running game engine calculations while the GPU is creating the video output and applying processing and post-processing filters like MSAA, FXAA, Heat Blur, Particles, etc. Increasing resolution should barely affect CPU load, maybe a couple percent at most. I’m running a 3440x1440 ultrawide and on max settings I’m sitting at a constantly locked 142fps with 70% gpu and 20% cpu load (3080ti + 11900k).
I agree completely dave! I had triple 32" curved and though I must say it looked great as a rig, I prefer my closer fov with my triple flat 27" setup. And the flat-screen setup looks better in game somehow. I feel games aren't really designed for curved screens and stretching occurs that I couldn't look past.
@bongobob7079 Space is mostly the reason. 27s can be placed closer without a ton of useless screen up top, nor is it as wide. That and tech has changed this video is 2 years old, and I have had my screens well before that. Curved screens have a lot more support these days. I would likely buy curved now if I was looking. I don't see a reason for bigger screens, though. I rather have space for other stuff.
@@motozfighterb1189 Space is not an issue for me and I have never had a top part of the screen that was useless? I sit at 55cm from my screens the same as my old 27's but now I am totally immersed with the screens all around me. When I look to the sides it is like I am in a real car with the extra length in screen size
@bongobob7079 I guess. I only felt like I saw less of the cars roof (useless screen). I lost no side view by moving it all closer. But the same distance you are now. It's all the same, man. The difference between 27 in and 32in is completely negligible. The end result is great for both. it's all in setup.
@@motozfighterb1189 Agreed. As long as you are happy that is the main thing. I don't think there is a perfect set up tbh. Everyone has their own needs and tastes
Thanks for the video. For 1080p, 24" is the recommended size and what I also use. If I decide to use a higher resolution like 4K, then a 32" is what I will use.
Wouldn't recommend 4k 32", you exchange a huge loss of fps for a not so high difference in quality at this size. 1440p + Anti Aliasing and stuff should be sufficient, yet, I use 27" 1440p so take it with a grain of salt.
@@bjornna7767 Explain how do you lose FPS going to a bigger size screen/monitor? that's a first. If you mean playing at 4K, then yeah, but I'm not interested in playing in that resolution until it becomes stable and doesn't require a one thousand dollar GPU.
@@sonyx5332 I meant the res, yes, 27" 1440p is very crisp, 32" 1440p more or less comparable to a 27" 1080p concerning pixel size. Would like to recommend you the following video which encouraged me to hold on to my triples 27". You might wanna think about it. 32" can have some flaws, depending on your equipment and room sizes. (lol, just saw it's the video I'm commenting on, I should make an internet pause :) YT: Answering a frequently asked question... | Why I use 27" triple monitors for Sim Racing?
@@bjornna7767 hahaha, no worries buddy, it happens, especially if you have a bunch of RUclips tabs open. I don't think I will see myself getting a 4K 32" inch monitor anytime soon. Since I play many older gen consoles on a smaller monitor and the current ones at 1080p on a 24" inch monitor I've decided to stick with those instead of going to a bigger monitor. Playing those on a bigger monitor, the PPI density will be smaller and the games will look pixelated. I've also tested this with a 42" inch HDTV that let's me resize the screen image. So at their native resolution, a smaller monitor means more PPI density and looks better. For sim racing or any racing games I don't mind playing on a big HDTV when offline, but for anything online I prefer to use the 24" inch monitor with less lag.
@@bjornna7767 Forgot to say that I'm only using one monitor instead of three, but I now understand more your point about the 32" inch monitor since this video is about a triple monitor setup and not one lol.
I like my 32 inch screens but since I do a lot of truck simulators as well, wish I had room for bigger screens. Then there's Star Citizen, which would be epic on huge 55 inch screens... too much space though.
Regardless of size, you have to set the correct FOV to have the correct perspective. You can have 32” the same distance from your eyes and you have to set it up correctly. Bigger screens absolutely don’t have to be further away. They simply give you a “bigger window to look through”…
Good vid Dave thank you. One thing I couldn’t see was whether the cord coming out of your wheel is also clipped secondarily to the back of the wheel to take tension off of the wheel side plug. Wires breaking inside the plug housing after a number of months are/were a common issue for these connections (happened to me too) if not secured that way. Lots of vids on it if my description isn’t clear ! Cheers.
Always great to hear your thoughts on hardware and rigs! I enjoyed my 27 inch but going triple with the current setup isn’t achievable! I would happily go back now I have tried some bigger single screens and a small ultra wide! Trying to do it on a budget is challenging but quite enjoyable!
i personally run a 32 in the center and a couple 16:10 1920x1200 panels on the sides. its the same pixel density or close enough you cant notice scaling differences. cant run anything in "fullscreen" mode sadly because its not in "surround" mode, but it works and works well. if i want better, i throw on the quest 2.
Same methodology goes for flight sim rigs. I have finally settled on three, LG 27GP850's. I've tried a varity of different display setups from single large 4k to 49" ultrawide. The best based on eye distance, FOV, clairity and cost are 27" 1440P flat panel IPS. Totally understand where youre coming from.
@@TheLDunn1 I went with the best picture quality for the price. The LG 27GP850 is their nanocell IPS. Same tech they use in their high end ultrawide monitors. Really vivid colors, no ghosting, super low input lag and much less backlight bleed then the cheaper IPS panels. Basically the best IPS panel available. Curved are usually VA panels which have ghosting issues because by nature have slower pixel transitions. Curved 27 inch monitors are not necessarily more expensive but the picture quality tradeoffs weren't worth it to me. Every person is different though. Some people will take a hit on monitors performance for a curved setup.
My understanding is response time is how quickly it changes colors. No doubt I’ve misunderstood this for eons. I’m happy with my 49” ultra wide. One day I’ll try triples.
I do like your set up. Your not half wrong with what you’re saying. I didn’t end up going with triples I ended up with a 32’’ curved with TrackIR. It’s all about space & what you are willing to spend. Thanks for sharing 👍🏻👍🏻🙃🙃
@@Daz5Daz that is actually not correct. ACC has a curve correction slider and when using Nvidia surround on triples it even auto detects the curvage of your screens.
Great info. I just made my rig with 32" G5's, but my rig footprint is quite big. Glad you made this vid to inform others looking to make their rigs. 180 degrees FOV is a wonderful thing
I have a 32 16x9. I run sims @ 2560x 1080 I have 70cm between my face and the screen. I run an external dash in the extra space and eye tracker. It's not perfect but it's means I can fill my game screen with windshield more or less, sizes are about right. If I fiddle with it I 'look' at the mirrors. What I want to try is 40+ in ultrawide.
I got triple 43... 69 degrees screen angle and a 218 degree view. I like it cuz when the monitors around you it's more immersive like you're in a real car. Only thing just like you say my wheelbase can't go under my screens and if I did that the top of the screens would be pointless and show nothing but roof. Unless I got a Simucube with a spacer. Right now I got a club sport so I still sit pretty close. I used to use 1 65 inch but anything 55 and up is too pixelated
Theres one thing wanting something and not being able to afford it. But being able to afford it, and not being able to get it... It's been a couple of years now wanting to upgrade my 1080ti to be able to jump to triples. It's kinda the limit for me at 3440x1440. But I am not paying the dumb prices of today. Hope that in another year or so I can finally throw the money I expect to spend on such a product at Nvidia.
I went with 1080p monitors too as I had a gtx 1080 at the time. I have an rtx 3080 now and kind of wish I went 1440p. It still looks great though so it’s not that big of a deal.
im running 3x G32QC A. not bad price for 1440p 32" curve. Also i sit 24in away from them and i run 60 angle with 180 fov. my 2070 super also runs 1440p perfectly fine
when i ask this on a SIM page on FB - everyone says 32" 32" monitor is £20 more than 27" - what i dont understand is just how much more space will a 32" actually take?
I think it comes down to personal preference between 32" and 27". The league people I talk to in discord who run 27" have no negative towards running the 32" and some wish they went for 32" over 27".
You get a more immersive and realistic scaling with 32 inch monitors. The difference is not 20 pounds though, if you compare monitors of the same quality. You want 1ms refresh rate, at least 144hz and 1440p especially if you go with 32 inch. You can somehow get away with 1080p if you have 27 inch monitors, but that's already borderline pixelated if you sit at the correct distance for a 180° field of view. That said, I followed Daves advice to go for 27 inch monitors and I regret it now that I'm more knowledgeable on the subject. 32 inch would have been so much better.
Hi Dave, love every single video you make, congrats! Could you share the actual distance between monitor, heights, angles etc in order to put my setup like yours? Looks incredible fine!
I was set on 32s when I do triples (as soon as it makes financial sense to upgrade from my 3060) but I think you changed my mind. 27s are the same height as my 34" ultrawide and I don't find myself craving more vertical space. I was just hoping to not have the screens so on top of me.
I don't need more vertical, my eyes are at 70cm, I have a steering wheel extender and the base goes behind the central monitor, a curved LG 34" 21/9 1080p 144hz for the center and 2 27" with the same characteristics for the sides with XFX 5700xt ultra...I expected to buy a 6800xt or 6900xt but with these prices I will continue playing at 100fps on average, 144hz will have to wait...
@@JoseFcoBN How well do games support mixed sized (or mixed aspect ratio) monitors in triples? Which games did you manage to configure well with this setup? Was it more complicated than normal?
Games don't manage your monitors, the AMD graphics, if it allows you to put triples with different formats and definitions, and it's an old patent, with Nvidia you need 3 equal monitors... Now with my msi 6950xt gaming x trio limit the triples at 144hz, although I only use the central one for VR.
Sounds pretty reasoanble! I've been thinking about getting myself a triple screen setup for a while and that was pretty helpful. Since I have the fanatec CSL DD which is pretty short, it looks like I would be able to fit the 32 inch screens behind the wheel base at just the right distance from my eyes (65cm) for a 180 fov, would you go then for the 32" if I have the space and I can benefit from the higher vertical real state? Or 27" screens over the wheel base would still be your go to? Thank you!
Thanks Dave, I think I'm going to take the plunge with triple monitor this year! What's the angle you have them at? I have 1200mm Pro Sim monitor mount and I figure if I use 3x 28" monitors then it'll come out to about the same width if I use 45 degrees (my current 28" is 600mm across) but would 45 degrees be too tight?
Energy-costs are becoming a thing if it isn't already, thanks to the shift to pre-industrial energy-sources (most say falsely 'renewables' to this nonsense). I personally would never buy flat displays again since my eyes are curved and my perception as well. Thanks to TrackIR in combination with my Samsung RG94 I don't miss the hFOV, but the vFOV could be better just for immersion. The upcoming Samsung Odyssey Ark (55", 4k, very curved) is on my wishlist, once it becomes affordable.
Couldn’t explained better my man ! I went also for triples 27” to keep the price low but I had to go for 1080p because I only have RTX 2070 Super and with ACC……You know difficult😅 I have OK FPS but I could not run 1440p with good FPS. Have also screens around 60cm from my eyes. IPS monitor but yeah 1080p is not that crip image. It’s ok but reading the dashboard from some cars is difficult and unsharp like Porsche GT3 R from ACC where some info’s on dash are quite small. But yeah I couldn’t upgrade GPU so I enjoy what I could afford. Better triples then a single screen because it’s more fun when you go side by side and to be able to really see the car instead of trusting the radar etc… much more immersion like we all know by now. 🏁🏁🏁👍
My question regarding your setup is why we only get to see one third of the video when you’re driving from true sim viewpoint? We never get to see the side mirrors in your videos. This is why I really love your GoPro videos.
Dave, hey. I know you use single screen now, but when you used triples, what was your angle for monitors with bezel kits and fov? Ive got 27" flats with bezel kit, but when im playing, im lacking sense of speed. In your video looks that your sense of speed on yours is so much better.
Hi Dave, where i Can see the exact place of you wheel base from your screens ? I am having some issues to setup my rig. I have a round wheel and with a good fov my wheel hide the incar dashboard
Great video Dave, I think you have helped to convince me to go down the triple 27 route. I have an option to get a flat IPS monitor or a curved VA, would you recommend flat IPS over curved VA - same resolution and refresh rates, I know that some people find that curved monitors can distort the picture as software such as ACC is already adding in a degree of correction? Thanks in advance, liked and subscribed!
Hi Dave, are you still using 27s and do you have any recommendations? I’m looking to upgrade from my 24 inch Asus. Will still be a single monitor though (no space for triples).
I think one of the big factors for many (myself included), will be going much bigger will then drive thr need for >1440, which not only increases the cost of the monitors, but also into the GPU required to feed 3x4k. That is a big dis-incentive to go larger I think
Oooof. And as stupid as I am spent a lot money just for a 32" 1440ish to use. Unfortunately I have not the space for triples and a complete rig either but looking at your rig makes me jealous :D I can live with one monitor to be honest as i´m adapted to it but when it comes to overtaking in corners you have definately the best option as you can see into the corner and also exit which I cannot see. So i´m bound to the spotter and imagine where that other dude is right or left of me. Thanks for this cool explanation mate :)
I want to create a triple monitor setup with 3x curved 27" yet you seem to be against curved monitors. Is there a specific reason for that or is it just personal preference?
For my understanding the problem with curved monitors is that the games don't know about them, they expect to project on a flat screen, so the image is less accurate by default. Furthermore, games with true triple monitor support don't just make the image wider but actually render three different perspectives from respective cameras which allows to take the angle between the screens into account. This means you can angle your monitors to such a degree that you get the desired (180°?) FOV with everything looking right. With curved monitors you'd probably want to stick to the angle dictated by the curve's radius, so you have a continuous curve (everything else seems to defeat the point of curved monitors).
Curious why you specifically wanted flat monitors after using curved monitors for so long? Especially since I may be building a rig in the next few months I was originally planning 27" curved monitors, would be good to know if there was a downside to it. Thanks!
Hey Dave great video! I also have triple screens but they are curved. Why do you like flat screens? Another benefit to 27 inch screens is that its easier on your graphics card for rendering. Hey i noticed your running the simucube dd wheel base. I thought you were a Fanatec man!👍🥃
The voice of reason. Been telling the wife for years that bigger isn't always better.
Me too 😁
Maybe she already wants triples, be carefull :D
@@NVidiero @arthur you two are legends 😂💀
@@NVidiero OH GOD LMFAO knew that was coming lol
At least she still married you
so glad you did 27 inch 1440p , it is the sweet spot and I hope this shows more sim racers that 27 inch is all you need for triples.
thx Dave for sharing your thinking process. I also went to 27“ tripple setup . for me the footprint of the rig was same important. I even run 1080p only and for my eyes it is good enough pixel density and my GPU is happy as well not being forced to generate too much of those pixels ;) .. cheers
Yes 1080p is just fine for 27° id say, if you go bigger than that you need 1440p
Glad to see others happy with 1080p. I decided to go 1080p because I would rather upgrade my graphics card in the future to get maximum frames with high graphics settings than feel forced to run at a native 2k.
@@jericosha2842 Also higher than native resolutions can do the trick with 1080p monitors and/or Anti Aliasing plus sharpening stuff on top (reshade), but well with 24"ers you would need to come closer to your screens in order to have a 1:1 feeling like in real, which in turn would make the pixel density more visible.
I would definitely go for 27"ers.
What gpu you use for your triple setup? Does it get decent fps?
@@ligapersada4793 iam running a rtx2080 and have very decent framerate in iracing
Thanks for taking the time to put this together, great to hear your thought process and makes complete sense to me as I have limited space also. 👍🏁
I think triple 27's is a good place to be... I considered 32's but I am completely happy with my triple 27's for all the reasons Dave sets out.
i started by 27 triple for almost 2 years. now am on 32 triple wich is the best ratio i think.
@@gadirigadiri2763
Do you still believe 32 is better than 27
I can’t chose what to buy
I finally made the move to triple 27" monitors. At first I had the monitors 110cm from my eyes. When properly setup I was able to place my car right on the edge of the track when needed, and the in sim elevation changes were incredible. The last hill on Road America in RaceRoom felt like I was climbing a moutain, Brands Hatch's drops felt like being in a roller coaster. Getting close to cars in front of me, the cars filled the screen and sold the illusion of being close.
As nice as that was, I still had issues with seeing apexes sitting that far back from my screens, so I pull the monitors closer when I am racing. They are now 75cm from my eyes thanks to my Fanatec wheelbase not being able to fit under the monitor.
I was expecting the same large scale feeling out of the new eye distance, but after using multiple FOV calculators and getting my sims dialed in, things just seem so much smaller. Not only that but placing the car is tougher. I'm giving myself time to adjust to this but I don't feel as confident in this area. I am wondering what happened, and why did the perception of size vary so much if both setups were properly calculated?
Mathematically there is a correct fov, but don't get too hung up on that. Set up your triples so it looks right to you. If the numbers are off a little don't worry about it 👍
Great information here that's still, and always will have the most important information for those triple screening. Prices change on monitors and new GPU's come out that can pump more pixels, but in my opinion, the MOST important decision in going with a multi monitor setup (simming, gaming or productivity) is the footprint. My first triple setup was with a Matrox G400 using a Matrox Trip2Go unit decades ago with 26" screens. Much later I had built a very expensive 744 (way before it was common, and using Epic cards and Epic programming). It was 2002 and I had $1400 in Project Magenta software to mimic the instruments with only open sky on the projector screens. Now, I love my HP Reverb G2, but just got back into triples. I have three 4k Samsung 28" Odyssey G70A's. Keeps me under 5' wide on my rig which is a must. Having them just like you do, right over my yoke and so close to my face I can appreciate my 4k screens detail. What got me back into 3 screening was I helped a friend get three 55" Oled TV's going on his setup. Both of us are more into aviation sims. I loved it, but his screens have to be far away. That wasn't on my mind at the time, but weeks late, on my one 28" 4k Odyssey G70A, I was practically drooling at the detail. So much more crisp and detailed on my 28" Computer monitors than his 4k Oleds (I love my 65" Sony Bravia Oled for movies and gaming from afar), plus they're right in front of me so I see soooooo much more than anyone with larger anythings.
For those interested, I have a 3090 Ti, and I do not run all three in 4k, nor do I run them all at 144hz. I run only the center screen at 4k and the two sides at 1440. Sometimes all three at 1440 due to my beast of a comp screaming. My room gets way too hot and the drop doesn't look any different to me on the side screens, and never notice when all three are at 1440. Had I to do it over again, I would have bought 3 1440 native monitors. I went this route because I already had one of them. Flight simmers that use other screens for their replica pits, such as even Winwings awesome F18 Top Gun Mip that uses three USB 3 screens, need to know that all of these things with resolutions will demand a ton. Even a 4090 trip screens on 4k isn't worth the tradeoff to me for the added heat in the room for 4k vs 2k. Dropping a 4k monitor to 2k gets lots of flak saying it's blurry is nonsense in my experience (since 2k is a fine ration drop from 4k), but having native 2k screens with 240hz refresh for other games would be my choice now since as I said, 4k in MSFS vs 2k isn't worth the tradeoff.
I agree with Dave 27 is a great size. Going any bigger and you are just going for the wow factor as you are just seeing things that don't matter inside the car. I went with 1080p monitors about 3-4 years ago as my 1070 could run it fine but I wasn't going to be getting enough power to warrant 144hz/1440p
So you run 3x 144hz on 1070 on what sim? I want to go with the same setup but Im not sure if my computer will handle this.
If both monitors have the same res a larger monitor just allows you to place it further away and get the same pixel density and fov. 27 inch monitors are fine but you need them close to your eyes which can give people eyestrain and obv requires then to be above the wheel base.
Thanks Dave! I've been waiting for this video. Seems like the 27" monitors are the best middle of the road for screen size, unless you want to go big. You have definitely helped me to make a decision on my monitor upgrade.
I’ve been looking for a video similar to this, been struggling to decide on screen size. Pretty much made my mind up now. Cheers Dave 👍
A bigger monitor does not have to be further away from your eyes to keep a 1:1 ratio so everything looks in proportion at all. As long as you adjust the FOV in game the game calculates the correct size to display everything to get the 1:1 ratio no mater how far away the screens are. All that happens if you place a 32" screen where a 27" screen used to be is you get a little more displayed around the edge of where the 27" screen used to be. Everything that's displayed on the 32" screen is exactly the same size as it was on the 27", there's just a bit more displayed around the edges.
Of course it does! If you didn't your fov would be completely unrealistic.
The FOV adjustment in game adjusts for this. That's why you can get a larger FOV with larger monitors than you can with smaller monitors - if you keep the distance from your eyes to the centre monitor the same and you don't move the larger monitors further away.
The whole point of an in game FOV adjuster is to get everything looking 1:1 relative to whatever distance the monitor is away from you.
You set your games FOV up to the angle that a FOV calculator gives you relative to your screen size and distance from your eyes don't you Dave? Your FOV always looks good anyway.
As someone who is starting to get into sim racing and has a small space available in a townhouse, this was a great reference point for monitor size. Thank you
I've been running triple +1 24" monitors in 5860x1080 for the past few years. I find now with a 3090, I can have maximum graphics in most games, with around 120 fps. I'm considering going to 27" monitors, so thanks for putting this video together Dave. 👍
my iRacing with RTX 3090 run my triple 1440p @120-160 fps with settings medium/high + 4x anti-aliasing + 16x anisotropic.
The 3090 is a beast and iRacing is not really demanding
@@YouThober Nice one mate. I usually race ACC, AMS2 and Raceroom. AMS2 is fairly well optimised, so I get much higher fps than in ACC which is a hog when there are lots of cars.
I used to have triple 27 inches, and it was pretty good. My upgrade to 32 inches was one of the best things in terms of immersion. Things are bigger, just like in real life. I am sitting approx 78cm-80cm away from the screen and have no intentions to go bigger as it would look like driving a bus, plus I would have to sit further away. And yes, I had to upgrade my GPU to run 1440p at 144hz. Not going any bigger or smaller anymore. This is my sweet spot and recommendation.
Thanks for this recommendation
Mind if I ask what gpu your using to run the triple 1440p monitors? In the market later this year for a new gpu and just want to make sure its sufficient. Thanks!
@@kizermergenschroer5096 I am using 3090 not because it was required but because I bought it for excellent price. You could easily run with 3080 or possibly 3070 or 3060. This is something that you might need to double check.
@@kizermergenschroer5096 I'm running triple 32" 1440p with a 3070 overclocked and I have everything tweeked as much as possible in nvidia controls but it's just not quite enough to be awesome but will still run at high settings at around 75 fps with dlss or other aids. I would TOTALLY recommend getting atleast a 3080-3090 or waiting for the next gen if the wallet supports that. Different conditions also can drain the fps like rain and fog so you always need that extra buffer in available power . I only got a 3070 cause no stock available for better at the time hope this helps.
@@darrylcote3971 @ which 32 inch monitor would you guys recommend for triples?
I'm just setting up my first rig with a triple monitor stand. This is great information! Thank you for sharing the what and the why. Cheers
I actually use a 34 inch ultrawide in the middle, and two 27" on the sides. Imo it's the sweet spot for me.
Are they all curved? I would appreciate which brand you went with. Thanks.
Was it any different on setting that up?
Many thanks for putting this video together Dave. Very informative. I thought you'd never do it, you teased us way before Christmas when you first got the new monitors!
27's are all i have ever run for years and as said they are the perfect size, won't break the bank for a decent set of them and and the FOB allows you to stay pretty close not taking up any more room then a rig already takes up. Good video.
Great video thanks Dave. Very helpful!
And thats the reason why you place the monitor ( I use a triple 32" setup) between the base and the wheel and you use solid wheel extensions.
I agree with you 100 percent. I run triple Dell 2721dgf which is 1440p 165hz and they're beautiful.
Digging up a buried post here. Are you still running your Dell monitors? Are those flat? I'm looking at the 2722 version, they've got a slight curve to them, wondering if flat would be better
I'm using 43" tv's works great. I was using a 72" for my main and 2 43" ones in portrait mode on the sides but this new way is easier for NVIDIA surround view.
Hey Dave - what's the distance between your eyes to the front screen, your side angles and your FOV?
Silence!
Sorry, just noticed this comment. My eyes are approx 61cm from the screen and my angle is 50. Not sure of the fov tbh
Dave doesn't set his FOV to suit the screen distance and size, he moves the monitors closer or further away to get the picture to look right....
You shouldn't use FOV in game as it creates lensing effect and ruins depth perception
@@Lee-xs4dj Oh boy...
* a thunder just struck, some computer nerd god just got angry
I know what you mean, a too high fov makes it look like using a fish eye lense, but fov as such is simply the field of view in degrees, and it must absolutely be adjusted to your distance eye to monitor, as well as monitor size.
Love the content Dave, running a 34" ultrawide currently but hope to make the switch to triples when my work space allows for it!
That's what I run too...I love it! BUT, triples...that's the way to go
Running that too! Suits me fine, looking into head tracking software at the mom
I totally agree, bigger is not necessarily better.
It has a lot to do with what we want and can have in our room/wallet.
I would just make a change to your rig, I'd cover it up like a dome.
The immersion is perhaps greater that way. No 'distractions' behind the monitors.
3x1440p requires quite a GPU to power it in most games. I guess it's fine for simracing as racing games in general are less demanding on the hardware but good luck running that setup in Microsoft Flight Simulator, DCS or IL2 Sturmovik without at least 4090 (3090Ti can't handle it) to get 60fps. For majority of players, 3x1080p is much more viable option IMHO (also 27'' 1080p 165Hz IPS Dell monitors with G-Sync and FreeSync are available brand new at 129GBP). For anyone considering the triple 1440p setup, consider that it's 30% more pixels than single 4k display - check if your current hardware provides you with enough overhead. If you can barely run your game of choice on 4k resolution, it will work even worse on 3 monitors.
i have the 240hz version of the benq mobiouz 27" and I can attest to the quality of the monitor. The picture is perfect and the built in speakers are also very good.
I really didn't understand your comment on the 32's in front of the wheel base. I myself run 34" triples and run in behind the monitors but, use a extender to move the wheel out so I can have the monitors lower. That would be the only reason I would think of. I sit 27" from the screen with a 55 degree angle and a 165 FOV. It's like you could a person preference like you said. As for me my eyes are going and it's hard to sit that close to the monitors for me. I'm thinking your right Dave it's what works for you. Love the channel. I think a FOV video to explain to people that really just don't know. about a 1 to 1 FOV.
@Logo 800 same as me. I think Dave is more limited by space. I have my triple 32in screens in front of my motor right above my Simcore 105mm spacer and it looks amazing
Good advice Dave. I'm just getting into sim racing. Triple 27's fit on my desk perfectly. I don't have room for a dedicated rig. I've got a new PC on order with an RTX 3070 to push the pixels around. Subbed
Thank you Stuart 😁
Currently running a dual monitor 27inch setup (center and right screen for a full dash view) while I save dosh for number 3. 27inches is absolutely a sweet spot without taking up a full room of space
Great video Dave! One thing I would recommend is to stay at 1080p in iRacing. Unfortuntaely iRacing's graphics engine is ancient and is still very much more CPU bound than GPU. Even with my OC'd 11700k and a 3080 and triple 32", It still struggles at some tracks with a full grid to keep 60fps even at triple1080p. I couldn't imagine what that would be like with a triple 1440p! That's the unfortunate old backend coding of iRacing. IMHO, fps is far more important in these types of sims than high resolution and eye candy.
im forced to assume something is setup wrong. im running a much lesser system and can run at those resolutions and higher at well over 60fps. maxed out in vr i get better than 90fps stable on the quest 2 at 1.2x supersample. out of a 5800x and a rtx 2080. you have 40% more gpu performance than me. your cpu isnt creating a bottle neck at 3k resolution when youre running a 3080. or at least not at 60fps. something HAS to be setup wrong. i personally run a 1440p and 2x 1200p screens for my triples and never have a problem keeping high frame rate. ever. and you have 40% more gpu than me lol.
i have 3080 and run triples 1440 @165hz at max settings in iracing. Frames range from 90-140
@@stickupmotorsports5854 @Ben Filley A simple test would be an AI race, at Barcalona, night time with 50 cars on grid. Try it out.
Higher resolution should barely affect CPU load. The CPU and GPU are doing completely different tasks and resolution is almost completely GPU bound as its the graphics card thats actually pushing the pixels. The CPU is running game engine calculations while the GPU is creating the video output and applying processing and post-processing filters like MSAA, FXAA, Heat Blur, Particles, etc. Increasing resolution should barely affect CPU load, maybe a couple percent at most. I’m running a 3440x1440 ultrawide and on max settings I’m sitting at a constantly locked 142fps with 70% gpu and 20% cpu load (3080ti + 11900k).
@@viperxbr ill give it a shot when i get up later. been out plowing. im tired. i aint doin shit right now lol
I agree completely dave! I had triple 32" curved and though I must say it looked great as a rig, I prefer my closer fov with my triple flat 27" setup. And the flat-screen setup looks better in game somehow. I feel games aren't really designed for curved screens and stretching occurs that I couldn't look past.
Weird as I had 27's and went to curved 32 and would not go back to 27 flat ever
@bongobob7079 Space is mostly the reason. 27s can be placed closer without a ton of useless screen up top, nor is it as wide. That and tech has changed this video is 2 years old, and I have had my screens well before that. Curved screens have a lot more support these days. I would likely buy curved now if I was looking. I don't see a reason for bigger screens, though. I rather have space for other stuff.
@@motozfighterb1189 Space is not an issue for me and I have never had a top part of the screen that was useless? I sit at 55cm from my screens the same as my old 27's but now I am totally immersed with the screens all around me. When I look to the sides it is like I am in a real car with the extra length in screen size
@bongobob7079 I guess. I only felt like I saw less of the cars roof (useless screen). I lost no side view by moving it all closer. But the same distance you are now. It's all the same, man. The difference between 27 in and 32in is completely negligible. The end result is great for both. it's all in setup.
@@motozfighterb1189 Agreed. As long as you are happy that is the main thing. I don't think there is a perfect set up tbh. Everyone has their own needs and tastes
Thanks for the video. For 1080p, 24" is the recommended size and what I also use. If I decide to use a higher resolution like 4K, then a 32" is what I will use.
Wouldn't recommend 4k 32", you exchange a huge loss of fps for a not so high difference in quality at this size. 1440p + Anti Aliasing and stuff should be sufficient, yet, I use 27" 1440p so take it with a grain of salt.
@@bjornna7767 Explain how do you lose FPS going to a bigger size screen/monitor? that's a first. If you mean playing at 4K, then yeah, but I'm not interested in playing in that resolution until it becomes stable and doesn't require a one thousand dollar GPU.
@@sonyx5332 I meant the res, yes, 27" 1440p is very crisp, 32" 1440p more or less comparable to a 27" 1080p concerning pixel size.
Would like to recommend you the following video which encouraged me to hold on to my triples 27". You might wanna think about it. 32" can have some flaws, depending on your equipment and room sizes.
(lol, just saw it's the video I'm commenting on, I should make an internet pause :)
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Answering a frequently asked question... | Why I use 27" triple monitors for Sim Racing?
@@bjornna7767 hahaha, no worries buddy, it happens, especially if you have a bunch of RUclips tabs open. I don't think I will see myself getting a 4K 32" inch monitor anytime soon.
Since I play many older gen consoles on a smaller monitor and the current ones at 1080p on a 24" inch monitor I've decided to stick with those instead of going to a bigger monitor. Playing those on a bigger monitor, the PPI density will be smaller and the games will look pixelated.
I've also tested this with a 42" inch HDTV that let's me resize the screen image. So at their native resolution, a smaller monitor means more PPI density and looks better. For sim racing or any racing games I don't mind playing on a big HDTV when offline, but for anything online I prefer to use the 24" inch monitor with less lag.
@@bjornna7767 Forgot to say that I'm only using one monitor instead of three, but I now understand more your point about the 32" inch monitor since this video is about a triple monitor setup and not one lol.
Totally agree with you Dave , I run with 27" and find them perfect.
I like my 32 inch screens but since I do a lot of truck simulators as well, wish I had room for bigger screens. Then there's Star Citizen, which would be epic on huge 55 inch screens... too much space though.
32s sre the way to go... sweet spot!
This is insanely crazy as I was watching your other channel earlier of a race at Snetterton 200 and I wondered this exact question 🤯
Yep just done the same mate and gone back to 27” Triples 👍🏻
Thanks Dave, i will go for 27's when i go for a rig. Happy with VR for Iracing now!
thank you for your opinion and description
Regardless of size, you have to set the correct FOV to have the correct perspective. You can have 32” the same distance from your eyes and you have to set it up correctly. Bigger screens absolutely don’t have to be further away. They simply give you a “bigger window to look through”…
Good vid Dave thank you. One thing I couldn’t see was whether the cord coming out of your wheel is also clipped secondarily to the back of the wheel to take tension off of the wheel side plug. Wires breaking inside the plug housing after a number of months are/were a common issue for these connections (happened to me too) if not secured that way. Lots of vids on it if my description isn’t clear ! Cheers.
Always great to hear your thoughts on hardware and rigs! I enjoyed my 27 inch but going triple with the current setup isn’t achievable! I would happily go back now I have tried some bigger single screens and a small ultra wide! Trying to do it on a budget is challenging but quite enjoyable!
Your rig set up looks awesome Dave
27“ with 1080 each and keep it cool bros 👌
i personally run a 32 in the center and a couple 16:10 1920x1200 panels on the sides. its the same pixel density or close enough you cant notice scaling differences. cant run anything in "fullscreen" mode sadly because its not in "surround" mode, but it works and works well. if i want better, i throw on the quest 2.
I just got triple 1440p 27" 165hz recently too from Dell. Really enjoying it :)
Same methodology goes for flight sim rigs. I have finally settled on three, LG 27GP850's. I've tried a varity of different display setups from single large 4k to 49" ultrawide. The best based on eye distance, FOV, clairity and cost are 27" 1440P flat panel IPS. Totally understand where youre coming from.
are to saying 'flat' there purely on cost grounds?
@@TheLDunn1 I went with the best picture quality for the price. The LG 27GP850 is their nanocell IPS. Same tech they use in their high end ultrawide monitors. Really vivid colors, no ghosting, super low input lag and much less backlight bleed then the cheaper IPS panels. Basically the best IPS panel available. Curved are usually VA panels which have ghosting issues because by nature have slower pixel transitions. Curved 27 inch monitors are not necessarily more expensive but the picture quality tradeoffs weren't worth it to me. Every person is different though. Some people will take a hit on monitors performance for a curved setup.
great feedback - thank youo@@PCPAyLOAD
My understanding is response time is how quickly it changes colors. No doubt I’ve misunderstood this for eons.
I’m happy with my 49” ultra wide. One day I’ll try triples.
Same mate, runs at 120 - 200 fps @ 240 hz Samsung G95
@@johnsanderson966 Samsung make the best screens IMO.
I do like your set up. Your not half wrong with what you’re saying. I didn’t end up going with triples I ended up with a 32’’ curved with TrackIR. It’s all about space & what you are willing to spend. Thanks for sharing
👍🏻👍🏻🙃🙃
Can I ask what the width of this set up is? I know its been 2 years, but I can't seem to find an answer
Great info Dave. Can I check, why did you go for flat monitors rather than curved ones?
None of the current sims corrects for the curve so geometry is slightly distorted if you run curved. Whether you'd notice or not is another matter.
@@Daz5Daz that is actually not correct. ACC has a curve correction slider and when using Nvidia surround on triples it even auto detects the curvage of your screens.
Great info. I just made my rig with 32" G5's, but my rig footprint is quite big. Glad you made this vid to inform others looking to make their rigs. 180 degrees FOV is a wonderful thing
@@ondrejthoman If you want it comfortable and last a few years get the 3080 or wait for the new 4080
3x55” OLED TV. The best. By far. 55” makes the center screen feel like a actual windscreen of an actual car. 27” is like driving a toy car
If you've got the space 👍
Ah yes, 3 to 10K in screens to play a video game......
I have a 32 16x9. I run sims @ 2560x 1080 I have 70cm between my face and the screen. I run an external dash in the extra space and eye tracker. It's not perfect but it's means I can fill my game screen with windshield more or less, sizes are about right. If I fiddle with it I 'look' at the mirrors. What I want to try is 40+ in ultrawide.
I got triple 43... 69 degrees screen angle and a 218 degree view. I like it cuz when the monitors around you it's more immersive like you're in a real car. Only thing just like you say my wheelbase can't go under my screens and if I did that the top of the screens would be pointless and show nothing but roof. Unless I got a Simucube with a spacer. Right now I got a club sport so I still sit pretty close. I used to use 1 65 inch but anything 55 and up is too pixelated
Great video, Dave. I have been considering making the move to triple screens.
Awesome thanks for doing this.
I picked 3x 27" @ 1080p because in the current hardware climate, I cannot afford a GPU that can push 3x 1440p comfortably at high detail.
GPU would cost more than the monitors itself right now
Theres one thing wanting something and not being able to afford it.
But being able to afford it, and not being able to get it...
It's been a couple of years now wanting to upgrade my 1080ti to be able to jump to triples. It's kinda the limit for me at 3440x1440.
But I am not paying the dumb prices of today. Hope that in another year or so I can finally throw the money I expect to spend on such a product at Nvidia.
I went with 1080p monitors too as I had a gtx 1080 at the time. I have an rtx 3080 now and kind of wish I went 1440p. It still looks great though so it’s not that big of a deal.
Can i run 3x 1440p with my amd ryzen 7 5800x , 32gb ram, and 3060 ti
@@sanchososa iracing yes, acc probably not
I was using triple 3d 65" screens 14 years ago now 😅 3 x G7 32" perfect for Sim Racing now
Thanks again Dave - what angle are you running the side screens at? Mine are at 52 degrees and they look tighter than that
I agree, 27" 1440p is ideal for sim racing! I tell my non sim racing friends that that is my optimal screen size and resolution for racing sims. 🤘
I mean, bigger is probably nicer, but the cost quickly quadruples or more. Honestly tenfold is more likely
Hi, Dave. May I ask why you were looking for a flat monitors? Aren’t curved monitors more immersive and reducing the footprint of the sim rig?
im running 3x G32QC A. not bad price for 1440p 32" curve. Also i sit 24in away from them and i run 60 angle with 180 fov. my 2070 super also runs 1440p perfectly fine
Hi Mate, I have 2070 super with ryzen 3600. Did you take any performance hit with the 1440p
I am concerned I will get crap frame rate
Love it, mate ❤
Hi, is it possible to use 16:9 + 32:9 + 16:9 for triple setup? Or it must all same screen ratio to works ?
Yes it's possible
when i ask this on a SIM page on FB - everyone says 32"
32" monitor is £20 more than 27" - what i dont understand is just how much more space will a 32" actually take?
I think it comes down to personal preference between 32" and 27". The league people I talk to in discord who run 27" have no negative towards running the 32" and some wish they went for 32" over 27".
You get a more immersive and realistic scaling with 32 inch monitors. The difference is not 20 pounds though, if you compare monitors of the same quality. You want 1ms refresh rate, at least 144hz and 1440p especially if you go with 32 inch. You can somehow get away with 1080p if you have 27 inch monitors, but that's already borderline pixelated if you sit at the correct distance for a 180° field of view. That said, I followed Daves advice to go for 27 inch monitors and I regret it now that I'm more knowledgeable on the subject. 32 inch would have been so much better.
I just built my triple 27” rig using LG 180Hz 1440p screens…..after hearing you use 27s and SRG uses 27s. They are great.
Edit: kinda wish I had gotten curved 32”
I have a 3060ti and triple 27’ x 1080p. 1080p is enough for me at this size to be honest.
Can you run 3 x 27 ' at 1440p you think?
I also have 3060ti, now also 1080p
@@sanchososa maybe but not o ful graphics I guess or you will get like 60 fps
If you want to see a real-sized cockpit view, you need to use a 55 inch monitor. As you say, this will cost more and take up a larger footprint.
Thank you so much for the information
Thanks Dave
Hey David did you buy all three monitors in a bundle or separately.
Thank you
These were provided by benq, but previously I've just bought 3 or the same.
Hi Dave, love every single video you make, congrats!
Could you share the actual distance between monitor, heights, angles etc in order to put my setup like yours? Looks incredible fine!
I was set on 32s when I do triples (as soon as it makes financial sense to upgrade from my 3060) but I think you changed my mind. 27s are the same height as my 34" ultrawide and I don't find myself craving more vertical space. I was just hoping to not have the screens so on top of me.
I don't need more vertical, my eyes are at 70cm, I have a steering wheel extender and the base goes behind the central monitor, a curved LG 34" 21/9 1080p 144hz for the center and 2 27" with the same characteristics for the sides with XFX 5700xt ultra...I expected to buy a 6800xt or 6900xt but with these prices I will continue playing at 100fps on average, 144hz will have to wait...
@@JoseFcoBN How well do games support mixed sized (or mixed aspect ratio) monitors in triples? Which games did you manage to configure well with this setup? Was it more complicated than normal?
Games don't manage your monitors, the AMD graphics, if it allows you to put triples with different formats and definitions, and it's an old patent, with Nvidia you need 3 equal monitors... Now with my msi 6950xt gaming x trio limit the triples at 144hz, although I only use the central one for VR.
Hey Dave, I'm kinda late. But how wide is this triple 27" roughly? Would be great to know as I dont have that much space
Sounds pretty reasoanble! I've been thinking about getting myself a triple screen setup for a while and that was pretty helpful.
Since I have the fanatec CSL DD which is pretty short, it looks like I would be able to fit the 32 inch screens behind the wheel base at just the right distance from my eyes (65cm) for a 180 fov, would you go then for the 32" if I have the space and I can benefit from the higher vertical real state? Or 27" screens over the wheel base would still be your go to?
Thank you!
Thanks Dave, I think I'm going to take the plunge with triple monitor this year! What's the angle you have them at? I have 1200mm Pro Sim monitor mount and I figure if I use 3x 28" monitors then it'll come out to about the same width if I use 45 degrees (my current 28" is 600mm across) but would 45 degrees be too tight?
loved this video and what i've been waiting for, is there any reason why you wouldn't have curved monitors instead of flat? Thanks
I'm also interested on this question. I got triple 27 curved (C27G1, 1800R). Any advise or guide for perfectly setup it will be very welcome received.
How much does triple 27" 1440p hurt performance compared to triple 27" 1080p or even a single 1080p
Hi, why are you not using curved monitors? Wouldnt they be better because of a better viewing angle and less sharp edges between monitors?
Nice video Dave 👍🏼
Energy-costs are becoming a thing if it isn't already, thanks to the shift to pre-industrial energy-sources (most say falsely 'renewables' to this nonsense). I personally would never buy flat displays again since my eyes are curved and my perception as well. Thanks to TrackIR in combination with my Samsung RG94 I don't miss the hFOV, but the vFOV could be better just for immersion. The upcoming Samsung Odyssey Ark (55", 4k, very curved) is on my wishlist, once it becomes affordable.
When I went to flat from curved it looked as if the flat screens were curving away. Took a little while for it to look normal
@@davecamyt There are still curving since your perception is distorting straight lines. The switch back to curved displays is said to be easier.
Couldn’t explained better my man ! I went also for triples 27” to keep the price low but I had to go for 1080p because I only have RTX 2070 Super and with ACC……You know difficult😅
I have OK FPS but I could not run 1440p with good FPS.
Have also screens around 60cm from my eyes. IPS monitor but yeah 1080p is not that crip image. It’s ok but reading the dashboard from some cars is difficult and unsharp like Porsche GT3 R from ACC where some info’s on dash are quite small. But yeah I couldn’t upgrade GPU so I enjoy what I could afford. Better triples then a single screen because it’s more fun when you go side by side and to be able to really see the car instead of trusting the radar etc… much more immersion like we all know by now. 🏁🏁🏁👍
I just did the same for the exact same reasons. I haven't gotten to set it all up, so I really hope it looks good.
My question regarding your setup is why we only get to see one third of the video when you’re driving from true sim viewpoint? We never get to see the side mirrors in your videos.
This is why I really love your GoPro videos.
Because I'd have to record in wide view which would generate black borders top and bottom 👍
Dave, hey. I know you use single screen now, but when you used triples, what was your angle for monitors with bezel kits and fov? Ive got 27" flats with bezel kit, but when im playing, im lacking sense of speed. In your video looks that your sense of speed on yours is so much better.
My fov was around 178. Distance to screen was around 55cm and the angle around 55 degrees 👍
@@davecamyt i really appreciate your reply. Thank you.
Hi Dave, where i Can see the exact place of you wheel base from your screens ? I am having some issues to setup my rig. I have a round wheel and with a good fov my wheel hide the incar dashboard
Yeah i am using 1080p 27 inch triple on 3080 5700x 32gb ram..... Its work perfect.... I can even render it to 1440p and it looks even cooler🙃
Great video Dave, I think you have helped to convince me to go down the triple 27 route. I have an option to get a flat IPS monitor or a curved VA, would you recommend flat IPS over curved VA - same resolution and refresh rates, I know that some people find that curved monitors can distort the picture as software such as ACC is already adding in a degree of correction? Thanks in advance, liked and subscribed!
Yes I would always go flat if you can 👍
Thanks for another great video. I must say are we dancing around a video on your..... cabling?
Leave my cables alone. They are perfect in their own little way 😁
Hi Dave, are you still using 27s and do you have any recommendations? I’m looking to upgrade from my 24 inch Asus. Will still be a single monitor though (no space for triples).
I think one of the big factors for many (myself included), will be going much bigger will then drive thr need for >1440, which not only increases the cost of the monitors, but also into the GPU required to feed 3x4k. That is a big dis-incentive to go larger I think
Oooof. And as stupid as I am spent a lot money just for a 32" 1440ish to use. Unfortunately I have not the space for triples and a complete rig either but looking at your rig makes me jealous :D
I can live with one monitor to be honest as i´m adapted to it but when it comes to overtaking in corners you have definately the best option as you can see into the corner and also exit which I cannot see. So i´m bound to the spotter and imagine where that other dude is right or left of me. Thanks for this cool explanation mate :)
I want to create a triple monitor setup with 3x curved 27" yet you seem to be against curved monitors. Is there a specific reason for that or is it just personal preference?
For my understanding the problem with curved monitors is that the games don't know about them, they expect to project on a flat screen, so the image is less accurate by default.
Furthermore, games with true triple monitor support don't just make the image wider but actually render three different perspectives from respective cameras which allows to take the angle between the screens into account. This means you can angle your monitors to such a degree that you get the desired (180°?) FOV with everything looking right. With curved monitors you'd probably want to stick to the angle dictated by the curve's radius, so you have a continuous curve (everything else seems to defeat the point of curved monitors).
agree, I was thinking to get 32inch but I liked the 27inch more and the 3x4k isn't really there may be the "RTX 5000s" series will be good for 3x 4k
Curious why you specifically wanted flat monitors after using curved monitors for so long?
Especially since I may be building a rig in the next few months I was originally planning 27" curved monitors, would be good to know if there was a downside to it. Thanks!
I couldn't find any flat ones in stock when I bought my curved screens. 👍
@@davecamyt Thanks for the reply! Any preference between the two, or do you think of them as pretty much the same viewing experience?
I'm running only a single 27inch but was done with the idea to eventually move to a triple 27inch setup
I’m looking at buying these myself. How have you got them mounted? There doesn’t seem to be a vesa mount on the pictures I’ve seen!
Yes they are regular Vesa mounts 👍
Hey Dave great video! I also have triple screens but they are curved. Why do you like flat screens? Another benefit to 27 inch screens is that its easier on your graphics card for rendering. Hey i noticed your running the simucube dd wheel base. I thought you were a Fanatec man!👍🥃
I just think it's easier to set up the correct fov with flares, plus they're much easier to line up 😁
I'm still a Fanatec guy. I just have both now 😁
Doesnt matter if your screen is 24, 27, 32, 100”…….1440p is still 2560x1440 pixels and 1920x1080 is just that no matter the size.
Weight is another factor if you are using wall mounts for any of your monitors
why they ALL doing non-flat front bottom part 😬😥 always fat line at bottom... how to connect sides ?