Sir, may Almighty Allah bless you abundantly amin. You are the best man for this debate. No knowledge is wasted in life you understand everything about their religion unlike those that always condom everything.
Ifa is a compendium of knowledge and revelation. It's a guide that's unique to the Yoruba people. There are other unique revelations to other people. The world keeps evolving as we receive knowledge, wisdom, and applications. Progress will go to people according to knowledge, learning, and applications. Ifa was consulted by our traditional leaders and rulers before Islam and Christianity were admitted into the Yoruba land in every town and ancient city. They were advised to admit, and accept them into our communities because we would reap benefits from their advent. The Yoruba got the benefits. Today, the Yoruba people are beneficiaries of the multiple faiths as they accommodate other religion or faiths. Differences are good. We can learn from Islam and Christianity and grow our Ifa, Iṣẹṣe, and their applications for growth and development. Until we make our religion and Iṣẹṣe wide, universal, and applicable to our development and progress, we should and must keep learning more and more.
Kabiesi olodumare ojogbon ni awon soroso yi sugbon network koje ka gbadun alaye baba ela dada,Omo Yoruba Toba ronu jinle aniyan ni ogidi igbagbo, love you all same to Atokun
Very interesting debate, it is now obvious that worshipping idols and isese activities is kufur, shaikh butress all his points with concrete references while the idolatry man has no a any concrete evidence but he was dancing within a circle
Is all that the alfa saying reflect in holy Quran ? Let any qoute we made come from the book that we believe for detail affirmation. Anything outside that becomes void not factual.
There is bias mind from the moderator, both debaters not in the same level of knowledge, all what can be debate will not be knowledge base information because Araba lack due knowledge to debate the Shaikh, the moderator is carried away because she was submissive to Araba hence she said she was cured through the man, she also lack intellectualism necessary to coordinate this debate to benefit human being , the history is known facts and gathered information in different location of the world, if someone is lying it fact can be correlated from the other location because all are sharing facts during every era in different perspective , we just fact-check and confirm the closet fact to the true, the moderator not looking for the knowledge not just want her passion for isese to be prevail perspective , there is no isolated history to just one location but at the same era there are always sharing event and human event that help the neighboring inhabitant of the place to have some part of the record. the best tailored debate should be on be based on historical facts that can be checkmated , the what called Isese lacks a lot of genuine combined pure fact but filled with a lot of manipulation
Dat Alfa Dey crazy ni 😂, why can’t dem be naming all those Idris is yoruba as orunmila instead….. Orunmila is from Yoruba never be found anywhere else but if only Dey wan lie to defend there religion
(1) the sheik's submission on the etymology of Ọlọrun Olodumare ❌ (2)he never gave specifics on his acclaimed science in quran or hadith❌ (3) the ifá he recited or quoted is fake❌ (4) Using Allah and Ọlọrun Olodumare interchangeably is wrong❌ as they are not the same. Allah is revealed in the Quran and Hadith via the anobis; Ọlọrun Olodumare is revealed via Ifá (5) he said quranbtells us where sperms come from in man but didn't show us❌ (6) next time the sheik should stick with Quran and Hadith and science; not quote Ifá (Ifá specialisation is not his area; the Baba didn't quote Quran) because when he does that he quotes fake Ifá. (7) the sheik shouldn't have left before the end; even if his devices are low all of them can't go off at the same time; at least one of them should still be able to keep in on. he left deliberately,. that's disrespectful to the audience and others. (8) the debate didn't allow for fact checking the claims of debaters and rebuttals by/from the audience. that should be included next time
Did you listen to the debate at all?.... Did araba ifa NOT concur / accept the definition of OLOHUN not OLORUN..... please you have yo. UNLEARN to LEARN.... Be a student of knowledge not just holding onto what you have been programmed to believe but go on the road of seeking knowledge..... Anytime you refute a statement you must be able to provide your answers with proofs not just a keyboard warrior (typing).. May the peace be unto you
Secondly..... RUclips is a resourceful site for beginners and expert..... If you want to know what Quran says about the developmental stages of babies beyong the molecular levels ( cell) check it out on RUclips and the scientists that affirm these are NOT Muslims they are western scientist ( most of them don't even. Believe in. God)
Arabia ifaleje would have debunked all the IFA verses quoted if they are FAKE as you claimed and that would have been a bone breaker in the debate but that never happened because the Sheikh gave reference or his sources of evidence. Please don't be blind folded to truth..... Open your heart / mind to compare and contrast..... Yoruba ni. Eeyan meji kii padanu iro.... And you can lie to 100, 1000 or more viewers most especially on the Internet..... Because everyone in respective of their faith will verify your submisiom or references to reaffirm it's authenticity
The sheikh has taken his time to embark on knowledge seeking (research) but you just want a short cut without making efforts either to do your own personal research on the aforementioned topics but you are quick to say it's fake / lies.... Without submitting your evidence or counter evidence.... So please once again be a student if you really want to learn... The field of knowledge is infinite and as such those who realise it always appreciate those on the journey when they shared from their ocean of knowledge
@@nkosithembi7964 You must have missed the part where the moderator said rebuttals are not allowed, that they are not there to say who is right or wrong. From that one will know that nthe assertion of any of them was not disputed doesn't make it right. And yes, the sheik's submission on Olorun may be right but on Olódùmarè he is 100% wrong.
This Alfa is a lier, he only read foreigners book but he doesn't make research, those book from all over the world that talks about the origine of ifa are all pointing to Yoruba people and Yorubaland but this alfa is trying to give ifa to foreigners who dont even know much about ifa, awon Alfa Akotileta ni alfa yi, the alfa is trying to misinterprete Yoruba words, this Alfa doesn't know many things. He needs to seek for more knowledge and make research
This is not a constructive criticism. If you want to criticize the sheik comes with facts and references. The sheik is highly knowledgeable. Throughout his debate he didn't say anything to devalue Yoruba generation. He said it point blank that religion is far different from culture.
@@omoarowosedo alfa challenged araba for the debate, but he lacked of knowledge of what he's fighting for, he should quote from his quran not the google, google was put together recently by whiteman
❤❤❤May Allah(swt) increase your wisdom Sir Amin
Whaoooo, thise is the reasercher, and i like this Mallam for his submition.
Sir, may Almighty Allah bless you abundantly amin. You are the best man for this debate. No knowledge is wasted in life you understand everything about their religion unlike those that always condom everything.
The Sheikh talked with knowledge and research
Ifa is a compendium of knowledge and revelation. It's a guide that's unique to the Yoruba people. There are other unique revelations to other people. The world keeps evolving as we receive knowledge, wisdom, and applications.
Progress will go to people according to knowledge, learning, and applications.
Ifa was consulted by our traditional leaders and rulers before Islam and Christianity were admitted into the Yoruba land in every town and ancient city. They were advised to admit, and accept them into our communities because we would reap benefits from their advent. The Yoruba got the benefits. Today, the Yoruba people are beneficiaries of the multiple faiths as they accommodate other religion or faiths.
Differences are good.
We can learn from Islam and Christianity and grow our Ifa, Iṣẹṣe, and their applications for growth and development.
Until we make our religion and Iṣẹṣe wide, universal, and applicable to our development and progress, we should and must keep learning more and more.
He said Bermuda triangle is where Satan lives ?.
Huuun...Ètò tí ẹ gbé kalẹ̀ yìí, ṣé tó bá yá,...?
All knowledge and research that are inaccurate?
Kabiesi olodumare ojogbon ni awon soroso yi sugbon network koje ka gbadun alaye baba ela dada,Omo Yoruba Toba ronu jinle aniyan ni ogidi igbagbo, love you all same to Atokun
May Allah be with you sheikh, more knowledge sir.
Very interesting debate, it is now obvious that worshipping idols and isese activities is kufur, shaikh butress all his points with concrete references while the idolatry man has no a any concrete evidence but he was dancing within a circle
Very interesting debate
The Alfa is talking with more facts and science.
More fact and science 😂? E Dey talk what e read in sch and find on google , we want a prove from only Islam Quran and Hadith
@@racheldavis2554go ahead and find it yourself 😮
@@raoufmoustapha3649 he should only prove by his religion
Sheikh you are too much, may the Jesus be with u
How could you do this kind of debate that everybody want to learn and you don't have Bluetooth speaker????
We are now struggling the hear voice
Araba said awọn Olosun ni imale
It's sounds like confusion
Assalamualaikum,
Permission to enlighten if I may.
Regarding the Religion of Queen Sheba (Biliqis) the Quran informed us that, they are non believers.
Is all that the alfa saying reflect in holy Quran ? Let any qoute we made come from the book that we believe for detail affirmation. Anything outside that becomes void not factual.
There is bias mind from the moderator, both debaters not in the same level of knowledge, all what can be debate will not be knowledge base information because Araba lack due knowledge to debate the Shaikh, the moderator is carried away because she was submissive to Araba hence she said she was cured through the man, she also lack intellectualism necessary to coordinate this debate to benefit human being , the history is known facts and gathered information in different location of the world, if someone is lying it fact can be correlated from the other location because all are sharing facts during every era in different perspective , we just fact-check and confirm the closet fact to the true, the moderator not looking for the knowledge not just want her passion for isese to be prevail perspective , there is no isolated history to just one location but at the same era there are always sharing event and human event that help the neighboring inhabitant of the place to have some part of the record. the best tailored debate should be on be based on historical facts that can be checkmated , the what called Isese lacks a lot of genuine combined pure fact but filled with a lot of manipulation
Yah shaikh please stop debating with these kind of people they don't have any prove
Pls is Orunmila an African man, Yoruba man and a black man???
Dat Alfa Dey crazy ni 😂, why can’t dem be naming all those Idris is yoruba as orunmila instead….. Orunmila is from Yoruba never be found anywhere else but if only Dey wan lie to defend there religion
@@racheldavis2554 hehe!Òmò ogaoo!!crazy kè? must you insulted someone just because you want to make your own contribution on an issue??..
@@opeyemiigbayilola9090 shut up Alfa , Muslim usually call onisese olofo laye ati olukiyaoma u talk anything about it?
@@racheldavis2554u are very crazy and I don’t blame you ignorant is a desease
If we can go back to history and achiological prove, ORUNMILA is a black man even scientifical prove shows that the world begins from Africa.
(1) the sheik's submission on the etymology of Ọlọrun Olodumare ❌
(2)he never gave specifics on his acclaimed science in quran or hadith❌
(3) the ifá he recited or quoted is fake❌
(4) Using Allah and Ọlọrun Olodumare interchangeably is wrong❌ as they are not the same. Allah is revealed in the Quran and Hadith via the anobis; Ọlọrun Olodumare is revealed via Ifá
(5) he said quranbtells us where sperms come from in man but didn't show us❌
(6) next time the sheik should stick with Quran and Hadith and science; not quote Ifá (Ifá specialisation is not his area; the Baba didn't quote Quran) because when he does that he quotes fake Ifá.
(7) the sheik shouldn't have left before the end; even if his devices are low all of them can't go off at the same time; at least one of them should still be able to keep in on. he left deliberately,. that's disrespectful to the audience and others.
(8) the debate didn't allow for fact checking the claims of debaters and rebuttals by/from the audience. that should be included next time
Did you listen to the debate at all?.... Did araba ifa NOT concur / accept the definition of OLOHUN not OLORUN.....
please you have yo. UNLEARN to LEARN.... Be a student of knowledge not just holding onto what you have been programmed to believe but go on the road of seeking knowledge.....
Anytime you refute a statement you must be able to provide your answers with proofs not just a keyboard warrior (typing)..
May the peace be unto you
Secondly..... RUclips is a resourceful site for beginners and expert..... If you want to know what Quran says about the developmental stages of babies beyong the molecular levels ( cell) check it out on RUclips and the scientists that affirm these are NOT Muslims they are western scientist ( most of them don't even. Believe in. God)
Arabia ifaleje would have debunked all the IFA verses quoted if they are FAKE as you claimed and that would have been a bone breaker in the debate but that never happened because the Sheikh gave reference or his sources of evidence.
Please don't be blind folded to truth..... Open your heart / mind to compare and contrast..... Yoruba ni. Eeyan meji kii padanu iro.... And you can lie to 100, 1000 or more viewers most especially on the Internet..... Because everyone in respective of their faith will verify your submisiom or references to reaffirm it's authenticity
The sheikh has taken his time to embark on knowledge seeking (research) but you just want a short cut without making efforts either to do your own personal research on the aforementioned topics but you are quick to say it's fake / lies.... Without submitting your evidence or counter evidence.... So please once again be a student if you really want to learn... The field of knowledge is infinite and as such those who realise it always appreciate those on the journey when they shared from their ocean of knowledge
@@nkosithembi7964
You must have missed the part where the moderator said rebuttals are not allowed, that they are not there to say who is right or wrong.
From that one will know that nthe assertion of any of them was not disputed doesn't make it right. And yes, the sheik's submission on Olorun may be right but on Olódùmarè he is 100% wrong.
What's IFA?
Shaik won this , how can you tell me Olohun is Ifa
I'm a medical doctor, no Quran quoted in anatomy textbook
Quran proved to us dat thr a layer under skin dat is responsible for sensing temperature different...
Wow. A medical doctor who has never heard about the Canon of Medicine written by Avicenna!
Please medical doctor, I'm very sure you're not good in research, do ur research well please
Thank you Dr., alfa has no knowledge of what he's talking about, google was recently put together by whiteman, he is just misleading his follower.
This Alfa is a lier, he only read foreigners book but he doesn't make research, those book from all over the world that talks about the origine of ifa are all pointing to Yoruba people and Yorubaland but this alfa is trying to give ifa to foreigners who dont even know much about ifa, awon Alfa Akotileta ni alfa yi, the alfa is trying to misinterprete Yoruba words, this Alfa doesn't know many things. He needs to seek for more knowledge and make research
This is not a constructive criticism. If you want to criticize the sheik comes with facts and references.
The sheik is highly knowledgeable. Throughout his debate he didn't say anything to devalue Yoruba generation. He said it point blank that religion is far different from culture.
Funny, alfa believe in google not quran again, you know nothing about yoruba/ootu, face your quran, and stop misleading people, simple! quran 14:4
If the debate aim to benefit all they should both reference to Knowledge and historical fact not Quranic quotation
@@omoarowosedo alfa challenged araba for the debate, but he lacked of knowledge of what he's fighting for, he should quote from his quran not the google, google was put together recently by whiteman