K-Pop Comebacks That Were Ruined

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  • Опубликовано: 9 ноя 2024

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  • @DareDB
    @DareDB  Год назад +53

    I've always wanted to do a video on tainted comebacks. These are the stories that had something happen, which then adversely affected the Kpop comeback. I know I did not cover every story, and so I can potentially do another one down the road. Hope you all found it interesting. Thanks for watching! Please don't forget those "like" and subscribe buttons for me!

  • @Betakitten87
    @Betakitten87 Год назад +238

    I remember the horrific Ladies Code tragedy shook so many Kpop fans, stans of the group or not.

    • @galaxy_kitten95
      @galaxy_kitten95 Год назад +15

      I remember like it was yesterday.
      There was even a “farewell project” after EunB’s and RiSe’s passings, especially when the two of them were incredibly close on the level of sisters. 💔
      You drew a black heart onto the palm of your hand and posted it on social media to honor the girls. I took a part of this project and even though I didn’t folllw LC, as a part of the Kpop community, we all mourned together.

    • @OfTheSeaKND
      @OfTheSeaKND Год назад +5

      I had just become a kpop fan a few months prior to this happening. My heart still ache’s thinking about this tragedy.

    • @rosietales
      @rosietales Год назад +1

      And unfortunately, that didn't stop the country from constantly speeding on the road.

  • @riffgroove
    @riffgroove Год назад +91

    Wendy's accident due to SBS' negligence was definitely viewed as a dark moment, but PSYCHO is by no means viewed as a dark spot in Red Velvet's discography.
    That song was quite simply a juggernaut that couldn't be stopped.
    Up until that point, the highest charting and most successful release by a girl group in 2019 was ITZY's debut song "Dalla Dalla."
    PSYCHO annihilated it.
    What that song accomplished with zero promotions is staggering and will never be duplicated.

    • @2FullMoons
      @2FullMoons Год назад +4

      PSYCHO was truly the ultimate gag... the year was about to end when the girls dropped this beast of a bop and stole the whole entire ‘show’ from everybody that year. CRAZY. Probably their biggest hit with the kpop community, I feel like everybody loves that song.

    • @riffgroove
      @riffgroove Год назад +2

      @@2FullMoons You're not wrong.
      People who actually dislike that song are few and far between.

  • @CheeseGirl91
    @CheeseGirl91 Год назад +111

    I cried for a long time after the Ladies' Code incident. I absolutely loved them and their retro sound. It was the darkest moment for me as a kpop stan.

  • @BrandyKpop
    @BrandyKpop Год назад +73

    2014 was known as the darkest year in kpop. But thankfully it has led to kpop idols wearing their seat belts!

  • @Betakitten87
    @Betakitten87 Год назад +55

    The Wonho situation always hits hard…

  • @mangakat33
    @mangakat33 Год назад +69

    If you do a part two, perhaps Lucas and Hendry’s Jalapeño - canceled 2 days before release

  • @hlashite85
    @hlashite85 Год назад +57

    The Ladies Code tragedy changed my outlook on kpop. I’d heard so many stories about the dark side of the industry and after this, I actually stopped listening to kpop for many years.

  • @GirlGeek90
    @GirlGeek90 Год назад +75

    I was going into this video hoping you wouldn't bring up Eun B and Rise and then you did...my heart still breaks for them

    • @Awakening_Sunshine
      @Awakening_Sunshine Год назад +15

      Me too, as I think that goes far deeper than “a comeback that was ruined”

    • @GirlGeek90
      @GirlGeek90 Год назад +7

      @@Awakening_Sunshine I remember it was my early years of being a K-Pop fan and I was on Ent Asia when I first read it (back when the forum was good). The whole forum just stopped and everything was about hoping Rise would make it. When we heard that she died...it was so heartbreaking.

  • @whiteshadow7584
    @whiteshadow7584 Год назад +17

    I feel bad for Stellar. They are talented, their songs were good too.

  • @Kingdom_Of_Dreams
    @Kingdom_Of_Dreams Год назад +11

    We NCTzens don't see Superhuman as a stain on NCT 127's discography. We adore that song and it's one of 127's best title tracks to date! We are still pissed that Korean fans purposefully sabotaged the group they claim to love, all because of animosity. If you're mad at SM, boycotting can help make your message clear, but it also harms the very group you're trying to help.

  • @MadameChouette800
    @MadameChouette800 Год назад +33

    The Dawn/HyunA one is so dumb, they were just dating

    • @tdelioncourt1268
      @tdelioncourt1268 Год назад +1

      Also the label was perfectly okay with them grinding each other for money (no hate, Retro Future is a BOP!)

    • @MadameChouette800
      @MadameChouette800 Год назад +1

      @@tdelioncourt1268 fanservice is ok but not real dating 🤦‍♀️

  • @GreenEyedMantra
    @GreenEyedMantra Год назад +9

    Damn SM your artists are here, good thing they are talented and can still achieve success somehow

  • @heathergoebel1676
    @heathergoebel1676 Год назад +8

    Ladies Code still gets me. That was so tragic.

  • @reyanime
    @reyanime Год назад +52

    Some of these comebacks weren't actually ruined. Many of them simply weren't promoted in the end. Psycho ended up doing amazing on the charts without promotions and ppl have been waiting forever for EXO's comeback so it is definitely not ruined. Not to mention, the whole IU thing, didn't hurt her popualrity at all.

    • @rosietales
      @rosietales Год назад

      They were technically ruined in the sense of not being able to do something or having the attention taken from it. Exo's comeback was definitely ruined considering the scandals it had before its release and Kai being forced to go to the military when he could've done it and then go but we know the biggest hater was SM with the tampering of sales. IU is literally untouchable, she has done a few things that would've had other idols cancelled.

  • @JokerCrowe
    @JokerCrowe Год назад +8

    I remember there being a lot of talk about Unions for Idols (and the industry at large) when the Ladies' Code tragedy happened; both managers and idols shouldn't have schedules that can lead to those kinds of situations - safety and health should come before making promotions.
    Unfortunately as far as I know, those talks have really dried up.
    I understand what you mean when you say that it changed the k-pop industry forever, but it didn't change the indutry enough IMO. I'm absolutely terrified of something like this happening again, because as far as I know, there has been no effort to change anything.
    I'm not sure what _can_ be done, but we're talking about loss of life here, there are few consequences that are worse.

  • @angiee1603
    @angiee1603 Год назад +78

    What happened with NCT 127 just seems petty to me. Don't fans want their idols to get more famous worldwide? SM works to promote NCT 127 in America, and domestic fans boycott them. That's wrong. You might not like the tactics used, but the goal was to make the group more famous. It would have benefited them, the comeback could have been huge, but you mad because this one time Korean fans weren't the priority. That's petty.

    • @raven2466
      @raven2466 Год назад +7

      cant agree you more on this one! It is so petty 😒

    • @markigirl2757
      @markigirl2757 Год назад

      just goes to show sm probably wont ever conquer the west

    • @navywhite1351
      @navywhite1351 Год назад +4

      i guess well never know how they think like that [i mean unless we try examining their brains lol].
      too bad superhuman was the best ilichil song for me and the comeback was not celebrated enough.

    • @railsz4294
      @railsz4294 Год назад +12

      it's beginning to happen more these days, Ateez, stray kids and more groups are having Kfans even ask to not visit other countries or go on tours outside of korea. I'm not kidding when I say this. Ktiny is the worst in this asking for fan service when not even voting for ateez because ''they aren't popular in kore so it's no use''. Multiple middlefingers were thrown during bouncy promotions unseen by the camera ofcourse. Ateez is so done being mistreated in their home country and now the fans are asking for fanservice for not even doing the bare minimum or doing anything at all. It's getting worse and worse. K-fans are definitely different this generation. It used to be : ''YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES THEY'RE GOING INTERNATION WOOOHOOOOOW NOT ONLY KOREA ANYMORE'' to: ''PLEASE DON'T TRAVEL OR PROMOTE OUTSIDE OF KOREA WEEEEEEEEEH I DIDN'T VOTE FOR YOU BECAUSE YOU TRAVELED OUTSIDE OF KOREA'' it's getting childish. K-tiny and I-Atiny literally have a fanwar of their own fighting with K-tiny because of how toxic and damaging k-tiny is. So sick of winning with ''10 points''........

    • @angiee1603
      @angiee1603 Год назад +1

      @@railsz4294 That's crazy.

  • @ababyrainbow_3099
    @ababyrainbow_3099 Год назад +11

    i would also add aoa’s good luck comeback, the group was at the top at the time but after the controversy of jimin and seolhyun, and the decision of the agency to continue with the comeback, the song ended up not working out as they planned and the group never gained back that popularity…

  • @angiee1603
    @angiee1603 Год назад +24

    I wouldn't say the EXO comback is ruined. It's a shame that Kai won't be involved in promotions and other MVs, but I don't think that will hurt the comeback as a whole. Fans have been waiting for this comeback for so long that they will support it.

  • @andrefaelnar
    @andrefaelnar Год назад +6

    Yes Zico surely did face a shit ton of backlash for his song "Tough Cooke" but when he somewhat rebranded himself in a way and he released "any song", I would consider this as his redemption arc.

  • @puppetmazter4718
    @puppetmazter4718 Год назад +8

    Monsta X actually released an album 4 months after the Wonho incident. He had lines on every single song but was left out of the MV's. He was officially listed in the credits for the album, but they put the members' names on the back of the album and his was left off. He was also not in the pictures or photocards. It was weird.

  • @mheiligm0113
    @mheiligm0113 Год назад +16

    If you do a part 2 you could include Lee Hi No One ft B.I. The drug accusations and him being forced out of iKON happened in the middle of the song’s promotions and suddenly her live stages for it ended up being her alone

    • @lisab301
      @lisab301 Год назад

      I still love that song.

  • @quaggotoak
    @quaggotoak Год назад +2

    when the ladies code accident happened, i was writing articles for an asian entertainment website. i wrote the article about it, and only a few days later, news broke that a young japanese idol named tsukimiya karen had died two months earlier. i wrote that article too. it was a very sad september

  • @nancymcgee4776
    @nancymcgee4776 Год назад +6

    Block B is another group I wanted to last forever! Thanks Derek sure enjoyed the vid!

  • @natig407
    @natig407 Год назад +15

    WayV Hendery and former member Lucas 🌶️Jalapeño🌶️ it looked like such a bop😢

    • @tdelioncourt1268
      @tdelioncourt1268 Год назад

      it is a BOP, there is a leak, bad quality but it already sounds great

  • @C0SM1CLABELS
    @C0SM1CLABELS Год назад +4

    The sad thing is that sojung never celebrates her birthday anymore because of this incident

  • @elenisse30
    @elenisse30 Год назад +17

    I will always miss Wonho in MX even though I know he moved on

    • @elenisse30
      @elenisse30 Год назад +7

      Btw it is clear to me that the attack on Wohno (and MX) was calculated and was supposed to happen at the time of their comeback

    • @shatteredshards8549
      @shatteredshards8549 Год назад +4

      @@elenisse30 IMO, you couldn't be more clear about it being a calculated attack than his accusers doing an interview with Dispatch and taking photos for said interview with a "murderboard" with other MX members on it in the background.

    • @vixxexo6855
      @vixxexo6855 Год назад +4

      @@shatteredshards8549I feel like every scandal in kpop is calculated now. Like we lost Soojin, B.I and Wonho and some idols got lot of hate like Woojin and Jimin from AOA for some false rumours. I have stopped believing that stuff now.

    • @rosietales
      @rosietales Год назад

      @@vixxexo6855 Netizens went through that whole "bully-gate" and still want to be on the victim's side because "the supposed bully is famous" but forget the only side they should take is the neutral one. I also stopped believing these scandals completely after that and wait for everything to unfold. That is how everyone lost ex-NCT Lucas.

  • @goodmorningcrystal
    @goodmorningcrystal Год назад +6

    Correction. There were no stairs for Wendy's fall. The stairs were not setup at that time so she walked out of a pitch black tunnel and fell straight to the stage below.

  • @SarahDawnRising
    @SarahDawnRising Год назад +4

    Ladies Code EunB and Rise are in what I like to call my heavenly bias list where they will forever be my favorites❤ Beautiful angels gone too soon😢

  • @rosietales
    @rosietales Год назад +1

    I find it so funny how the public reacted with the CBX scandal compared to TVXQ. To this day, people are divided between TVXQ and JYJ when they had the total right of suing the company for everything they did. If Changmin and Yunho felt betrayed, it was up to just them, not for anyone else to feel like the other 3 members should've stayed when their money was supporting everything they did, even backup dancers and had slave contracts.
    Clearly SM didn't learn a single thing in all these years of managing ground breaking groups and I really wonder how things are being managed now that their groups are divided into different managements.

  • @janeelaine8028
    @janeelaine8028 Год назад +10

    Maybe let's not call the EXO comeback ruined before it even happened. I don't think fans were mad at CBX and would have supported the group anyway and now that the issues are resolved, all the better. Of course it's sad that Kai can't promote with the group (what a mess that was), but that alone won't ruin the comeback, as there have been comebacks with missing members before. I don't know how they are on shaky ground, it's not their fault that they have to do their military service. Fans have waited a long time for this comeback, I don't think they will let it flop.

  • @Vividaze
    @Vividaze Год назад +9

    In spite of the contract mess Exo is still doing fine, fans are all still hyped for it (I know I am) and I wouldn’t call kai being called in for service sooner than expected scandalous- as this vid shows stuff like this is par for the course for a lot of groups

  • @raven2466
    @raven2466 Год назад +4

    thank you Derek for another great video. so many sad and unfortunate moments.

  • @hakunamatataya
    @hakunamatataya Год назад +3

    I will never forgive SMEnt for their ruining EXO's comeback this year and I will never ever forget Wendy's accident due to SBS negligence.

  • @melodyofthecursed
    @melodyofthecursed Год назад +3

    I still hate Hwayoung for destroying T-ara's reputation..😡

  • @dallunatic
    @dallunatic Год назад +3

    Do not get me started with Superhuman, it is their best title track for me, and it was RUINED. like i understand dream was nowhere and needed to have schedules, but come one that song is perfect.

  • @Cafelee12
    @Cafelee12 Год назад +1

    I remember when Ladies Code accident happen. I cried for a long time because Rise was my bias in Ladies Code. I been a fan since the beginning of their career

  • @Marilynspook
    @Marilynspook 8 месяцев назад

    I remember being sad about the Block B Jackpot comeback being cancelled. I was hooked on the song the moment is came out, and I looked forward to seeing their performances at music shows. Understandably that they cancelled it due to the tragedy of the Sewol ferry disaster, but as a fan I hoped they'd hold the performances at a later point.

  • @TomsMusicCorner
    @TomsMusicCorner Год назад +3

    Yes a lot of shit has happened in the last decade. Not to forget the departure of Jessica, which is still not 100% clear why and how it all happened and who all was involved. Ask 10 people and you get 20 answers. But what they all have in common is the label itself - SM. Jessica, Sully, everything around EXO, NCT.... Wendy (but here the blame lies with SBS). Psycho is still their best song. Plus Wendy had a successful solo debut.
    Ladies Code was the first tragedy I learned about and right after that was the fall of T-ARA. With T-Ara, though, I'm not so sure who is more to blame here: Hwayoung or Knetz? Wasn't it the Korean fans who kept up the fairy tale of a bullying scandal for 5 years? Sure, it would have been easy for her if she had said right away that she wasn't bullied and if her sister had stayed out of it but who stepped up? The fans were the ones who did it!
    Soon FIFTY FIFTY will also be included in such a video here. Sometimes you just want to run screaming from this kpop stuff. People just want to listen to good music. Dramas are not necessary at all.

    • @lovelymill
      @lovelymill Год назад

      you can avoid drama only if all the singers are AI lmao, and it still won't be a guarantee, because there would be people behind their voices

    • @TomsMusicCorner
      @TomsMusicCorner Год назад

      @@lovelymill I stopped reading all the crap on Twitter years ago. That helps immensely ^^

  • @MrFries4slayer
    @MrFries4slayer Год назад +1

    Thank you for mentioning Monsta X and Wonho. As a Monbebe this truly was hard. I can't enjoy that album 😓

  • @xxigeorge
    @xxigeorge 9 месяцев назад

    Tiny correction. While Hwayoung is no saint in any case, she didn't start the bullying allegations, that was made up by Korean netziens as a reason to knock T-ara off their successful top three position in the industry. Hwayoung even initially denied the bullying allegations. She eventually settled for a generic and vague "I went through tough times" line but I don't remember her ever outright saying that T-ara bullied her. "Sexy Love" and "Number Nine" still charted within Gaon's top ten.

  • @slivercoat6678
    @slivercoat6678 Год назад +3

    Also the answer by ab6ix. They an 0t5 version . It’s so hard to find. They were supposed have comeback but then it got postponed because the youngmin scandal. Which they all had to record whole thing.

  • @pennyraehawkins9788
    @pennyraehawkins9788 8 месяцев назад

    The T-ara scandal happened in 2012 not 2021, bur I’m chalking that up to a typo lol Great video!

  • @lavenderchai4612
    @lavenderchai4612 Год назад +2

    Always remember Ladies Code 😔

  • @vanessaw95
    @vanessaw95 Год назад +1

    Follow was my first thought. Its a good and funny song, but always makes me sad😩

  • @Theoneaaliyah
    @Theoneaaliyah Год назад

    I loved the superhuman comeback, I had no idea it didn’t do well. Then again I had just gotten into kpop and wasn’t aware of a lot of things 😅

  • @cherylschaeffer7832
    @cherylschaeffer7832 Год назад +19

    Absolutely love the videos you do and this one is no exception. Can we call Big Bang's comeback with 봄 여름 가을 겨울 as another ruined comeback? YG screwed it up and now the band is disbanded? I guess you could say it's GD and Taeyang, but Taeyang is doing solo work and GD has teased upcoming solo work. Daesung quit YG (don't know what he's going to do now) and TOP is becoming an astronaut when he's not curating wine and art. YG.. the career killer company.

    • @angelicwarrior118
      @angelicwarrior118 Год назад

      When did this happen?

    • @ShannonRochon
      @ShannonRochon Год назад +8

      Sorry, but Seungri was the Jenga piece in that tower...it was a rolling boulder for them from the moment that scandal broke.
      They did a comeback after, but it just didn't feel like them. I'm not at all surprised they're doing their own things now.

    • @cherylschaeffer7832
      @cherylschaeffer7832 Год назад

      @ShannonRochon true but YG are typically slow with the comebacks.

    • @ShannonRochon
      @ShannonRochon Год назад

      @@cherylschaeffer7832 agreed

    • @Awakening_Sunshine
      @Awakening_Sunshine Год назад +3

      Daesung signed a contract with a new company, and I believe he expressed a desire to remain a member of BigBang

  • @Carolina-bw6gy
    @Carolina-bw6gy Год назад +2

    Aoa good luck- the korean history "scandal" and i guess it was during the news of seohyun dating zico

  • @yachi4702
    @yachi4702 Год назад +5

    EXO set a record for their pre-release so your statement is not true even with the so called "scandal". CBC received a ton of support internationally.

  • @aryden11
    @aryden11 Год назад +12

    I am still salty about what happened to Wonho. He was innocent but his career is now tainted because of those two witches. The worse part is neither of those scum got what they deserved for their lies against him.

    • @rosietales
      @rosietales Год назад

      One of them went to jail and came back creating a YT channel wearing jail clothes, she deserved a good beating tbh.

  • @eetienne9158
    @eetienne9158 Год назад

    I always feel so horrible for Stellar. They were very ill treated by people who should have had their best interests at heart. I have daughters and I don't want to think about the monster I would become if anyone tried anything remotely like that with my girls.

  • @ManJojo000
    @ManJojo000 Год назад +1

    Thank you for this video, it was well explained. If you do a part two, I would add Billlie's cb EUONIA, teinted by Moonbin's death. I like this song, but now ,each time I listen to it I can't help but to remember this dark period 😢.

  • @Chuu_Vault
    @Chuu_Vault Год назад +1

    We want from Chuu can do it to Chuu can sue it

    • @phantoms2053
      @phantoms2053 7 месяцев назад +1

      Not
      CHUU can chew them.
      That Lass made an ABSOLUTE Feast out of B/roke/burried cantreative

  • @PBWK
    @PBWK Год назад

    After Ladies Code incident and companies STILL put their idols in dangerous travel situations. And don't even mention the general public who pass away or get hurt in the same accidents!

  • @kokaioh9942
    @kokaioh9942 Год назад +1

    So that is what happened to Superhuman. Knetz dislike good music.

  • @JiaPia3
    @JiaPia3 Год назад

    I can’t find the Mr,Mr song anywhere. That is screwed up. SNSD is all over that search. Anyone got a link?

  • @Titania.Dimitra.MX.BM.Greece
    @Titania.Dimitra.MX.BM.Greece 7 месяцев назад

    8:36 Monsta x 'follow' i am monbebe/wenee and until this day .. still hurts .... 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺i know both parts they doing well but i want them again together, all 7 ... love them....

  • @zeid9828
    @zeid9828 Год назад +7

    When EXO still collecting a lot of new fans during their long hiatus = "EXO is already on rocky ground" 😂yeah right.

    • @rosietales
      @rosietales Год назад

      I mean, they didn't lie but it's not because of them, but because of their company. There was literally everything in front of the company to make the group achieve new levels of success and they decided to drop the ball on them.

  • @navyawarrier4513
    @navyawarrier4513 Год назад +2

    EXO Comeback hasnt even happened yet. Please calm down. Please use your words carefully. Other than that, great video, Thanks!

  • @tingle2323
    @tingle2323 Год назад +1

    About sexual artistry and all . there's difference in sensual,sexy concept and in soft porn ,arousal, provocative ness...u don't see arousal and provocative in men one .but in women .and also normally women are used for getting attention of people towards their group by making them look seducer and sexy only...means it just addition in women showing as object only ..

  • @rfhextra
    @rfhextra Год назад

    That Was Amazing Video

  • @savagehoundz
    @savagehoundz Год назад

    i cant lie i stop listening to monstaX when they kicked out Wonho

  • @kimble90126
    @kimble90126 Год назад

    Omg

  • @dibidibidis3367
    @dibidibidis3367 Год назад

    🕺🏻💨🐺

  • @kayneciaellis5970
    @kayneciaellis5970 Год назад

    yahh, firsttt

  • @Ha-young_is_Just_Too_Fine
    @Ha-young_is_Just_Too_Fine Год назад

    Kai was forced?
    Kai was 29 at the time, unlike BTS, Kai didn't have anything to keep him away until 30, the fact he tried to delay it for much longer showed the kind of man he is, the fact he wasn't fined for avoiding over 28, literally between 18 and 28.

    • @Ha-young_is_Just_Too_Fine
      @Ha-young_is_Just_Too_Fine Год назад

      Also their was nothing to say for the Lawsuit against SME being real, I highly believe it was to cause attention to EXO

    • @tdelioncourt1268
      @tdelioncourt1268 Год назад +4

      He was forced.
      He had to go this year, but it was planned to be later, so that he could have one last EXO and a SuperM comeback.
      Don't make it a stupid rumor.

    • @tdelioncourt1268
      @tdelioncourt1268 Год назад +1

      @@Ha-young_is_Just_Too_Fine Oh ok nevermind, you're that kind of person...

  • @robinrobin683
    @robinrobin683 Год назад

    i love EXO but i personally think the only thing that ruined EXO comeback is Sehun. i dont hate the guy but he hasn't improved much all these time. the moment his part began in cream soda, it brought down the already mediocre song. other members sang and danced beautifully, particularly the CBX members, D.O, Suho and Kai. PCY seems weaker this time round considering his great vocal skill, he could be better. the maknae however, i dont know how to describe him without being hated or misunderstood by EXO or his fans. goodluck otherwise.

    • @soakedpasta
      @soakedpasta Год назад +1

      That's funny considering Sehun's part is so hyped even among no fans.