One Drop Champ Is FLOORED By This Huge River Bet
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- Опубликовано: 20 сен 2024
- Antonio Esfandiari does battle once again with the tricky businessman Bill Perkins. The hand starts innocently enough with a standard raise and some callers. However, Perkins springs a big raise on the turn and bombs the river, prompting the 3-time bracelet winner to give a speech. What on earth should he do here?
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Doug, one hand omitted from Perkins raise on the turn is the flopped nuts (79s).
Was this on purpose? Could he not have flopped it and slow played?
What are you thoughts on this?
Keep up the great videos Doug!
Thank you and think freely
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I've seen fewer angles in a trigonometry book
What’s up Doug Polk, guys here
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Y'all must be new here.
Still makes me laugh.
Entertaining the newbs 😄
Everyone already saying it but yo Doug, for real man, why not calling out the horrible angle shoot here by Antonio? Please don't go soft on us.
What was the angle shoot? Curious
@@joshwillett13 when he said "donation" and acted like he was throwing the chips in, then pulled back.
It's debatable if it's a real angle. Players like Ivey used to always do things like cut out the calling chips. Move them around, etc. and look for reactions. This is much less prevalent now as people have learned live tells aren't very reliable mostly.
Personally, it's whatever. I consider an "angle" to be something of ill intent. Something like this, trying to get a reaction, or needling a friend (these guys are all friends and play together often).....don't bother me.
Classic Antonio Angleshoot. Classic.
It's getting ridiculous
For sure Perkins is expressive enough for Antonio to see that he did not want a call with the angleshoot and calls, wish they showed his face when he fake calls, even he was like WTF after he done it. way out of line.
I agree it's bad etiquette but you also shouldn't be playing if you can't keep your composure
Antonio cheats Perkins should be title. piece of shit.
Boski...in the house!
Corrected title "Esfandiari Angeshoots His Way To A Call"
8:47 "10-8...or maybe 10-8" hmm..thats a lot of hands
Alexander Richmond its a easy call. The bluffer not afriad flush on the river (still over bet)if he presenting 79 or set... The only case is 79c that he could be over bet on the turn and the river. Otherwise, all the case is not made sense. Very unconvincing storyline.
Typical Esfandiari, always straddling the line between light angle-shooting and just all-out, no holds barred, tilting, incessable angle-shooting.
Luckily him and Perkins are friends, I definitely would not stand for that shit
It's an angle shoot if he had folded after failing to get the desired tell from the pump fake call. He was always calling just didn't want to payoff such a huge bet with a weak hand.
How do you know he was always calling?
Or maybe A.E. elicited a certain reaction he was looking for in his repeated angleshoot "pump fake calls"
Agree a 100%. Poker After Dark approved angle shoot.
"Donation" *holds the calling chips out*
*goes on to think about it for another minute*
Not cool.
cheating
STFU you moron. Antonio's trying to get a read on his opponent.
It's part of the game. You're literally killing poker.
Really? Why does getting a read off your opponent have no place in poker?
And why is that a problem exactly?
What's wrong with getting a read off your opponent?
Have you ever encountered a player moving his/her calling chips into the middle, and you automatically think "AW YISS, VALUE" and when you show the nuts, they take their chips back and fold?
Perkins always doing his part to keep the real pros in cash flow.
cause he will angleshoot you and win
Big angle shoot?
Damn. Ok... That was an angle right? The fake out that made Perkins say "wtf!" ... so that means Antonio is the fish to keep happy these days?
Bill Perkins is the third biggest loser in the history of poker. He can afford it.
Where do you see those stats?
Doug's been helping him improve his game. Looking forward to seeing him play better on future high stake cash games.
i think we need to start calling out antonio on this bullshit.. its pretty redic and very unethical..
I think you need to go fuck yourself and get a life
Antonio was trying to get a read on his opponent. He should be applauded.
its a huge angle and ruins the game for whales like perky.. i mean its definitely a cheap shot from a 'pro'..
How does it ruin the game for whales? They enjoy gamesmanship
Whales can't complete on hand analysis, so they enjoy gamesmanship because it helps level the playing field
@@JohnSmith-su3ze STFU, there are ethical limits on what is acceptable. What Antonio was doing here was angle shooting, not "gamesmanship".
@@renx81 Utter bullshit
Tired of cry babies who cant handle gamesmanship in poker
Clearly poker is not the game for you. You are too fragile
Perkins looks so uncomfortable after that river bet... the stare looks weak af too
I have two questions:
First: Why no comment about Antonio's light angleshooting?
Second: Would Perkins bet a flush for value after the board pairs? Would he bet trips for value if he was bluffing with a 6 on the turn? Or does he only have full houses in his range, and maybe a nut flush, but not any of the non-nut flushes? (okay, this one is a multi-part question I guess)
Gabriel Rockman depends on betsizing as well I guess. Value bet tight and big or bet all of the flushes with smaller sizing
Gabriel Rockman Perkins can make this type of a play with anything. Trips, all flushes and all full houses are in his range. He's very unpredictable and can make such a thick value bet with any of these hands.
I could probably win some hands too if I angle shot as much as Antonio.
this game looks softer than... softer than.. something very soft
Goo? Bunny tails? Silk? Mom butts? Soft serve ice cream?
With friends like that, who needs enemies?
If you made that call, you'd be driving a new Jeep!
Doug send me 10k
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Hi Doug, Thank you for all of these videos. I watch it a lot, here on RUclips, on Twitch, trying to learn as much as I can. However, there are all these advice from pros, which hands to open, how to play pre flop generally, how to play post flop, when to bet, book from this guy, book from that guy, Jennifear openning charts and everything seems straight forward. So if you are doing what you are told you should be profitable. But then I see for example Lex Vildhuis opening some crazy hands from early positions or making these weird plays post flop and often ending up busted while generally being profitable. It’s not just him, that is only an example, I see that very often. When I try to implement some of that play I am a “donk”, a “fish”, throwing my chips away and in often I end up busted as well. Or these allin bluffs with garbage hands in late tournament phases (I am talking mostly about online tournaments) when you pray no one is going to call you. When I play my usual game which is a bit tighter (and more by the book in my opinion) I end up deeper in tournaments bur rarely reach the final phase. Usually I end up min cashing or something. What do you think about this? Could you please give me some piece of advice? Sorry for a long comment and thank you. Cheers
Doug Polk didn't call out Antonio because he is scared. everyone in the comment section saw the angle shoot but Doug just doesn't even mention it. I think Cryp-Nick clearly sent him a message.
why isn't doug including 97 in perkins range?
How do you balance a situation where your hand is either a good hand to bluff raise/barrel with on the turn but not on the river? When you raise the turn with a good hand to raise i.e. 67 no clubs and the river comes a club, your hand is no longer a great hand to bet with on the river (since you want at least one club). And the flipside. If you raised with KJcc and the river bricks out, barreling with a busted flush draw isn't a good idea because you block the missed clubs of your opponent. Which hands are better for double barrelling when you completely miss both the turn and the river?
Doug, thanks for this.
Been too busy with work but your poker video analysis on is definitely one of the best I have ever seen. Looking forward to more in the future and best of luck in whatever business venture you're working on now which hopefully includes cash games online or live.
Such good poker analysis in this video. Polk is so strong at poker.
Doug, there's one thing about the logic about having a club or not.. on the turn we want to call without a club and fold with a club, but then on this river we don't have hands with a club in them, cant perkins just barrel every time and we now have to fold because we don't have hands with clubs in them as those folded turn? (Besides boats, how can we call without club hands?)
You say to fold K♧Tx on turn but call with no club, but then say to fold this hand with no club on river and call with A♧Ax but that K♧Tx is better on the turn to call but that's getting folded... lol
So we call/raise with T8 and boats...
Some of the logic is conflicting on the turn vs river
@10:49 I read contempt from a half smile from Perkins. I know we use math but I'm autistic and this is one scenario where I throw math out the window. Perkins is being ackward by blinking, making eye contact but... he tried to not to let that little smirk out. It's a micro expression and everything else he was doing at the table screams. [*starts staring* "I want to know if you believe my lie." *blinks a lot* "I would be so happy if I got away with this." *Shows contempt half smile* he's not folding I can't smile yet!*] and we all know these actions as poker players could all be fake and the exact opposite but I've never thought twice after picking up a micro expression like that knowing my hand is good. Unless the villain had any history of a good Hollywood or knew I looked for specific scenarios like this I'm almost able to snap call!
WOW! this was the best poker hands in a while
Nice angle Antonio.
I think Perkins reaction to the nearly but not quite a call motion made it clear he was bluffing. If you have it you don’t react at all
When Doug mentions that KJ of clubs is a potential bluff hand why is it that hnd specifically? Why could it not be KQ of clubs?
Thanks
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+Patrik Patriksen man he is just making joke how stupid you are to think Jacob is serious lol i mean wtf how old are you 12?
If you didn't hear the sarcasm reading this comment; you've got work to do before thinking of playing mind games.
Jacob? 😂😂 Such a troll lmao
Norman Quenneville [/sarc]
Patrik Patriksen lol you obviously don't go on Doug Polk vids comments often if you didn't know they're full of trolling. I even own Doug Polk merch, I'm a huge fan of his. Was just trolling.
Wasn’t that an angle shoot at the end?
Now that crypto is dead all these crypto RUclipsrs are making Poker videos now
Not dead at all.... just going through a pump and dump mode as the wall street boys begin to play it.
Look at how fucking stupid you are. He is a poker player first and had this channel for a long time and just recently created his crypto channel.
pretty sure it was an ironic comment dude
People taking his joke comment seriously... smh.
whatlez people making the same joke thats already used above but said way better then this one.....smh
Perkin's hand does have good removal though, all the 8's. Therefore putting Antonius in solid top pair territory.
The dance at the end would tilt the shit outta me.
Why is Esfandiari surprised when he won the hand ffs, if he thought he was beat he would have folded. This guy along with Negreanu are notorious for not folding rivers
Kc would actually be an advantage on the turn for antonio... one fewer out for club draws, more clean outs to two pair... both effects stronger than simple blocker :)
Esfandiari is very good at reading people. 14:11 it is a f**king angle shooting!
At 8:25 Doug mentions KJ of clubs to raise where you "don't have the odds to call, especially multi-way. I'm confused by this, why would it being "especially multi-way" affect the odds? Wouldn't more people be better when you hit?
Funniest part of video is when polk is telling how Perkins bluff is good becuAse he blocks the 8 and the ace and none of the drawing hands (cuz we all know billy boy is taking this into consideration)
Esfandiari is angle shooting imo
Love Bill Perkins. He doesn't give a shit about the money and just wants to gamble some of his $55+ million with the big boys. I think the pros get a kick out of him. I remember him and Phil Laak on the Big Game chastising Hellmuth for berating an amateur who'd just won life-changing money. "You have endless trunks of money - he's a school teacher!" Class act.
Doug - so much respect for your grind, man. All you do is produce value! Blessings bro!
Doug is it OK to call 87 suited here on button prefloop?
14:43 dat voice crack doe. LUL
I don't understand when you say a certain card blocks someone's hand/holding. Very advanced stuff
It's really not. Very simple concept
I like the pc explination for Perkins' preflop play. Can we just say he called with a shitty hand
@14:52 - The Lotto Dance!
what a douche
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He seems to have all the angles covered...
I know it’s a somewhat friendly game and I love Antonio, but I really don’t like all the pump faking with the chips before he calls. Sets a bad precedent going forward and someone would be well within their rights to really take issue with it.
8:45 "10 8 or 10s or 6s or 8s or 10 8 (again!)" Don't forget 8 10 Doug!!!
Question. When Antonio says "Donation cuz I love u" and kind of half throws out his chips for a read.. is it an angle to say "Yep, I got it" or something.. What do u think? Cuz Antonio is pretending like he's going to call for a reaction .. so is giving him a reaction an angle?
I think this reaction goes a long way cuz esfandiari and perki have a long history and often times when you take a big pot off a "friend" you tend to show a little more sympathy. So if Antonio goes "Donation cuz I love u" and almost throws in his chips, if bill can say it with a straight face like "ya i got it i got it" show a little empathy for taking the pot off his "friend" I think antonio would or should insta muck. Do you think you should do that?
is that allowed to put the chips almost in the middle and say " donation because i love you" just to get a reaction, and then make the call or fold once you got a better "read" , or is that angleshooting?! I mean, if that is allowed, pretty clever by Antonio, thats probably why he's so good in live poker =)
AudeJavel12 there is no bet line at that table, so it is allowed even if it is scummy
9:10 I don't understand what u mean by blocking your opponent from having 10s when there are still 2 more tens out there? I'm not that good at poker so I'm jus curious.
Blocking - less chances that the opponent has those cards. Sure there are 2 more 10's in the deck but there's much lower chances they have either of them since you already hold one (compared to if you didn't have a 10 in your hand)
Lol bill .... yep just classic strong stare at him after that river bluff 😂 can’t play against Antonio like that read you like a book.
14:03 the guy not in the hand putting his chips out like he’s calling induced Antonio to make the call.
Looks more like he was retrieving the chip he dropped?
I think if the river wasn't SO board changing and Perkins still blasted it, Antonio could have found a fold. I was like he said, everything changed on the river and he still bet, sort of made no sense unless he had a FH.
did you never mention 79 here once as a viable hand for bp? thats what antonio thinks he has, or a bluff.
Antonio got the physical tell he needed to make the call when Perkins reacted and said "wtf"
I saw the preflop action and was like "KTo is a bit odd but otherwise its reasonable"
And then when doug went through it I realized the A8 and 87 werent suited. Yikes
Haha wtf I legit thought you put Carlos' face in the beginning :D BEEDCONNEEEEEEEEEEE
So whose the top 10 sicko? Perkins?
13:49 is that not 'forward moving motion with chips'...i.e. a call? And he basically does it again at 14:08, with the ''donation'' speech. That is shady as fuck. Dealer should count that as a call
What's up guys, DougPolkCrypto here, talking about poker for some reason.
why does it seem like antonio is always bordering the line of angleshooting in every video
Not bordering, crossing...
lol at the Cyril poster
I remember back when Doug Polk used to talk about poker!
I love these videos and i feel like i'm learning a TON but there are so many terms being used that i dont quite understand.. i need guide book for all these terms or something.. HELP???
Can you make an episode of poker news? Or at least poker variety videos, know you’re busy with other things and crypto currency channel and it’s great, just saying would like to see some variety. Keep up the great work huge fan!!
Antonio as usual with the dirty angleshoot
Definitely harder to call on the end being that the flush got there
i don't like how he fake calls a couple of times pretending to call and then pulling the chips back. That should not be allowed
why wouldn't you want him to think you have 7,9 to make a straight?
Perk is never in a Million years overbetting a flush otr which makes His bluffing Range much bigger and the call higher ev
68, 79,flush,88,66,10 8 jeez so many possible hands, what's Doug talking about.
I think the overbet hurt perky here, yes ppl do that sometimes 2 think like there bluffing and actually have it so they get called but would you bet that much if it have a flush? He's not raising 20k on turn with a 6. Would he raise 20 k with kj clubs on turn? Possible but unlikely in my opinion. While it's no an easy call I think it's a call...
Just a question why exactly would it be better for Antonio to have a King with a spade then a club, because my reasoning would be that a king with a club would be blocking his flush draw bluffs?
That's what Doug said, yes. You want your opponent to be bluffing with a king of clubs, if you're calling on the turn.
Great call..He knew his opponent, he called him down. I would have folded turn probly
Great oversell of this hand. Antonio didn't look floored at all. But I guess it's the youtube thing to do. Perkins is a fucking tellbox, he just looked weak as hell on the river too. The angle-shooting you didn't even mention, I don't know Doug, this was just awful.
When this guy angles, i would have quickly reached for my cards to turn them over, angle shooter would have folded for sure
Just say "Full house" and then "what? you didn't call?"
That fake folding or betting should not be allowed. It's such bullshit
i know Antonio for a long time, but this hand really made me a fan of him 👏
Why rip Alec Torelli for his angle shooting and not the magician? Clearly, Esfandiari gained all the information he needed from his head fake bet. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
I found your channel after watching you on crypto. Now I'm hooked. I would rather watch drink beer and watch your channel that sports like NFL/MLB, etc.
Incredible blink rate there Doug.
Where can I watch Poker After Dark?
here we go... upswing gonna take more money from me. :)
Doug said Esfandiari should fold but he called, Doug doesnt know about live reads
excessive blinking is a sign of weakness
Whoa wtf he motioned forward with the call then pulled it back? Is that allowed
I'm sure this isn't always true but when an opponent makes a big river bet then stares at you they are bluffing with weak hand.
Does nobody call him out on the angle shoot?
That's just how he plays - he always angles.
What a call! I would have called that but im a amateur so myreasoning is wrong even if the conclusion is right. Why can't perkins have 7 9 ?
Honestly that was a live read. Perkins was sooooo full of it, and I`m not the type that usually pays attention to this
what is removal?
Kind of funny hearing this 8th level analysis for a hand involving an LOL live pro vs. some businessman. If you are in a hand where careful GTO analysis resulting in the removal of one club from the possibilities is going to influence your decision, you already failed at game selection.