As a librarian it’s common for a lot of shows and movies that are in demand to either not be released on dvd, or it takes like 3 months for us to request it. Even then we may only get a few copies, and I live in a major metropolitan area. I can only imagine smaller libraries.
This is true but also most people don’t have a way to play DVDs anymore, like I bought myself an external disk drive for my laptop because I like my DVDs but even that is hard to come by
There is a streaming service called Kanopy and it's free with your public library. Kids shows are free but they give you 12 credits for adult TV shows or movies.
My mom just stole the dvds she didn’t return on time. Her logic was “well it’s just cheaper to buy it” and they were like “yah Karen that’s the point if you don’t return it on time then you shouldn’t have check it out in the first place” Pay your late fees. Even if you are in sort of an extraordinary life predicament that prevents you from doing and being the person you actually are.
I worked at Family Video until 2020 and same 🥲 once someone arrived 5 minutes after we closed and they screamed at me through the door to check their movie in so they didn’t have a late fee
@@houseonsandwhat do u mean? She just kept them? So yeah she ended up paying for them. They would charge u 50$ a movie if not returned. If she didn't pay that it went on her credit. So she payed for it one way or another
@@houseonsand Hahahaha when I was in highschool I had this classmate who would just borrow books from the library and never give them back. Yes he stole. His thinking was the same, since he always forgot to return them and never wanted to pay late fees. What our school did was put his name up on the shame list, but he had no shame. Since it was only a school library, they couldn't actually force him to do anything and he got away with it. Can't believe I once had a crush on this poser asshole.
This is why libraries are important!!!! Please support your local libraries! Donate, volunteer, vote, tell your representatives to invest in them. Not only are they spaces that hold onto copies of physical art that you can use for no upfront charge, they are ALSO FREE COMMUNAL SPACES which we are also losing to rampant capitalism.
Fully agreed! American libraries in particular are getting a lot of flack right now by conservatives (up to and including literal bomb threats) so they could use your support. Besides, the more people using the services, the more funding your library can apply for from government sources which lets them do more for you WITHOUT adding to local tax burdens. Besides, you're already paying a few dollars a year in taxes for that space. PLEASE use it. We want you there, even if you're just hanging around using the free wi-fi, air conditioning/heating, and/or comfy chairs. You don't even have to read! Come play the board games or use the internet! Meet there with friends! Attend one of the free gatherings or classes there. There's so much.
@@katc3234YESSS!! This is something I am always telling my siblings and friends. AND I have a job interview at one next week!! Libraries are literally so important❤
YAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!! (Edit: I just realized that this pirate yeling is also an acronyme for "Y'all racists". Blackbeard was right. Nothing content related, just a joke)
This is mentioned in the vid itself and is why you should buy the physical copies of movies you want or like so you can actually own them and support the creators in the process.
Stremio + Torrentio. Works on android and google TV ($40 HDMI dongle that is basically an android phone for tv). Hell I stream cyberpunk 2077 on my Chromecast with nvidia gforce now. Dont use Plex its a waste of time.
They really didn’t get that, the benefit of a streaming service, was convenience. It takes me an extra 5 minutes to find a free version, where as Netflix takes me 25 seconds. But then they increased the fee…. again, added ads, cutting everything after the first season, refused password sharing. At this point there’s no convenience. No ease of use. Just annoyance.
They are just making finding the free version even more and more difficult instead. P.S:- So many of my go to websites that I use for finding stuff are nuked and then new methods are developed by people and I am always just so confused.
The password sharing thing is so irritating as a college student. I still live with my parents, they still pay my bills when I’m at college. But apparently I have to take the time once a month to drive home to see them to confirm if I still live with them. I already do that since I only live 2 hours away from home, but my friends who live several states/a plane ride away obviously cannot do that. I do not use those services anymore for obvious reasons, the principle of it is so stupid.
What’s unrealistic is these companies expecting continuous growth year after year. This isn’t a product you need to buy more than one of. At 2024, it’s safe to assume that 90% of people who are willing to pay for a Netflix subscription have already bought one. The market was never infinite.
Yeah it’s baffling to me that companies don’t just self-sustain, they always have to keep growing. Growth isn’t unlimited unless you start pulling strings that shouldn’t be pulled.
downfall of streaming means i hope everyone loves how to pirate again. piracy in the 00s was how i became a cinephile and watched world cinema, which led to me actually paying to attend film festivals to watch these films and support these filmmakers in real life and eventually actually work in film. if you are curious and love something enough, you'll be willing to pay for it.
Do you have any good search terms or sites you recommend? I used to pirate all the time in high school but I don’t know how to go about it nowadays, all my old sites are gone
You can also access a lot of film festival content legitimately and for free through your local public library streaming services such as kanopy or beamafilm. Or at least you should be able to if you have a properly supported, funded library service 🤞
I'm a media archivist. Not only will we lose finished media, but we'll also lose the raw footage as well. Converting from tape to digital is a super time consuming and expensive process. Therefore, it's reserved, as you said, for only what is deemed "important". A lot of our old tape machines are breaking down, and not many people still have the knowledge and expertise to fix them. Eventually, these machines will be unsalvageable and all this footage will be lost. Not to mention that tape itself disintegrates. So without tons of money and time, a lot of media, including like I said raw footage, will be lost forever.
I’m still angry that my older brother converted all of our Super 8 home movies from our grandparents and parents into VHS, AND HE THREW AWAY THE ORIGINAL FILMS! Then he converted those VHS tapes into DVDs, then he uploaded onto a google drive. And I haven’t seen any of them since and the original, super archival film is gone forever. People don’t understand that every time you convert over to the latest technology, and every time you copy these things, they break down. Also if you lose the link and/or don’t pay the subscription fee that becomes inevitable, you lose your media completely.
about the fan fiction joke, my mom was an english professor for decades and actually studied fan fiction. there are a lot of programs attempting to archive fan fiction. it’s actually more common than people would think for it to be looked at through an academic lens. it’s incredibly interesting to learn about the academic side of it
@@essies4294 it depends, honestly. there's this one site, archive of our own, where there's very high quality fanfiction. some are even full chapter book length, beautifully written. a lot of fandoms are going very strong on there to this day and are bustling with writers and readers. in some of the most popular fandoms, hundreds of works are made per day, most or all of which being very high quality! i don't doubt that things were good in the past, but they're certainly still good today.
Isn't it wild that streaming platforms are now discovering that the best structure for entertainment is, in fact, the TV way? Staggering releases means people stay interested for longer (so many platforms now release episodes weekly or a few episodes at a time), selling commercials keeps your company financially viable and bundling many services together so we don't have to pay for individual -channels- platforms.
@@dogwalk3 i may be a minority here but i always prefer the opposite, i love scheduled programming and moments where i discovered a series by accident and getting hooked by it 😂
@@dogwalk3 This does seem to be a matter of opinion. I used to be big into binging, but over the last couple of years it has fallen by the wayside for me. It's fine some of the time, don't get me wrong, just like it was fine to vedge and channel surf, some of the time. But some of the time, if something is really interesting to you, you just gotta make it into an event. It's a concept called 'phenomonology' that the sum of experiencing something extends beyond just the things itself. You get your snacks, you get your friends together, you all sit down to deliberate watch 'the big movie'. You talk with people about the 'big show' the next day at work. You anticipate the 'big game' long before it comes out.
@@aeoligarlic4024 plus I think scheduled slots is better for fanbases as a whole, since you can make an event out of watching the same episode at the same time no matter where you are, and then discuss the episode while waiting for the next one. Lol I just saw that Bustermachine worded this a lot better than I did
Netflix blocking password sharing was the the straw that broke the camel's back imo. Having the community feel of sharing passwords in a group of friends for netflix, hbo, apple tv etc. is so much better than forcing individualistic consumption of content. After all, streaming along to films/shows together and discussing it afterwards is half the fun! The worst part is - it worked. Netflix's profits increased after banning password sharing which makes me think other streaming companies will follow, i fear
Does the ban actually function? My family shares an account and we all live in different places, but it's never been a problem. If it ever does I'm not getting my own account, they've lost too much of my trust by cancelling everything I like
@@Claelethit does. I had access to Netflix until like just a month ago. You may still have access for a while, but it’s coming. While I never decided to get my own subscription, a lot of people did. Validating Netflix’s decision, which is deeply unfortunate.
@@Claelethi think it depends, my parents ar divorced and my mom used my dads account but recently it got shut down and we have to like ask him for a code again or smth. idk the ins and outs or if weve gotten it back yet tho bc i dont really watch tv
@Claeleth It's catching little by little since the beginning of the year 😢, last week I had no problem, today I was blocked from every devices I have 🎉
tv killed radio and streaming killed tv. i wish we could go back to the golden era of tv shows being 6 seasons and 22 episodes long. nowadays all we get is tv shows being 3 seasons with 8 episodes and they take 2 years or more to produce
They finally got me on that this month, in addition to switching to ad-subscriptions. They had a few shows that made me hold on but the passwords I can’t share with friends, adding ads, and now killing a brilliant new show (imo for Dead Boy Detectives) in just four months this is untenable to me. I’m just so tired of it all.
@@that90skid67ARCHIVE 81! I’m still so salty!. After I heard that was cancelled, I’ve never watched a netflix produced show (even pirated) coz there’s not point getting hooked on something new, that will only get one season 😑
Since Netflix keeps cancelling shows after the 2nd season despite solid viewership because some algorithm told them the first two seasons gets the most engagement, I feel no responsibility to support them in any way. If they consider their shows disposable junk with no re-watch value, I will treat them as such.
The sucky thing is they coulda just planned for this from the start and greenlight 2 season only shows. Or Mike Flanagan type shows that only run for one seasons. That way they get their money and people still get a complete story.
It’s not JUST STREAMING TOO it baffles me how many apps require a subscription of $6-9+/month. Strava? That’ll be $12/month. Spotify? $6/10/month. Duolingo? $6/month Runna? $12/month? Like guys… COME ON. I miss the days of one time purchase (even though I was in elementary school when that was a thing)
And it really adds up when you're from outside the US and the exchange rate is bad 🙈 although it's also a really good motivator not to subscribe to things lol
Spotify is the one that pisses me off the most, I have a student subscription but now they have a 3 year max on students which is ridiculous because I'm still a student.
@@wildmarjoramdieselpunk6396THIS is the most disgusting thing they did with prime, like what the actual fuck is wrong with them and why can they get away with it. I PAY SO MUCH, and now have to watch a shit ton of ads
Justice for every single one/two season show I loved on Netflix, that was inevitably canceled so they could allocate more funding to making yet another season of Stranger Things
Same, if I didn't have a partner with streaming subscriptions I would just not watch TV or movies except at friends' places. I've gotten back into reading books like I used to, and I love it.
Same! I only watch on streaming if my friend has it and we watch together or something. I love RUclips lol Also, like Mina mentioned, I feel like the content Netflix is so cringe so like no thanks! lol
The anxiety over never owning anything is how I feel about social media, actually. It seems like these goliath apps will inevitably fall and then where will these years of memories go? That really spooks me.
i've been thinking about that regarding snapchat! so many people use it as a camera roll but when it inevitably shuts down? all the photos/videos are gone!
It’s happened many times before, just at a much smaller scale. And it’s terrifying, absolutely. I lost a blog I had for all of highschool when they went bust. All my pictures were gone. I didn’t have any hard copies. It’s awful.
I'm really sad that I've lost a bunch of music I recorded and had uploaded to my MySpace music page. The computer I'd had it on went to computer heaven unexpectedly and I went looking for it only to realize my page was... gone. 😢
Honestly stuff like that is why I print my pictures for albums now. I try to do it about twice a year because even if it wasn't an app going down, I could always have a broken hard drive or a fried laptop. I've found the price has stayed pretty stable too and there's usually packages for large orders or print sales around holidays
I started thinking about this a couple of years ago, after vine closed I actually lost a bunch of short videos with friends . Since last year I started buying physical media and printing my pictures. Im buying my favorite movies, tv shows, cd musics and mangas/books. There may be a time where Spotify closes and there’s no way I can remember all of my music. That kinda terrifies me
Many silent films pre-1927 don't exist anymore because celluloid was so flammable and films were considered throwaway. So much was lost. It hurts my soul that 30 years of the internet will have the same fate.
The paradox of the digital age: everything we create is in a cloud forever but also “nowhere” forever. I remembered legendary photos we took 20 years ago that got lost when a device broke or whatever, and all we can do about it now is reminisce about the experience and the cool photo that once marked it. 😢
here's something that demystifies it: there is no "cloud" storage where everything just floats about in some internet ether, ready to be pulled from with a magic spell. cloud storage literally just means "storage on someone else's computer," and in the case for most of us, that someone is a corporation who will pull the plug as soon as that computer stops spitting out money :/
Yes!!! My kids use their holiday money on digital items. I’m always telling them that when they grow up, they won’t be able to hold onto any of their memories physically. It’s sad.
@@thewanderingstarseed it is sad, but tbh for me is also a good way to reduce waste, you purchase something you want and you won't need to have to throw it away when you don't want it anymore. Of course that only works for a limited amount of categories
Honestly, they can just have their photos printed out, or have it uploaded into file lockers like GDrive or Dropbox - absolutely NOTHING is holding back people from printing photos out.
Talking about lost media: this is why libraries are so vital. Through the legal deposit system, they *have* to preserve and archive everything, regardless of quality. I've been to the archives of the French National Library and it has kilometers of shitty VHS preserved, and mountains of video games, including educational ones no one wanted to keep. A famous japanese composer worked on an obscure educational game in the 90s and they were the only one to still have a copy.
I mean as a librarian who has studied some archive (those are two different area), no we do not. Librarians spend a lot of time throwing away things that are unpopular. It takes a lot of my work day, just looking for things to throw in the garbage to make space for new material that keeps on coming. Some university libraries might have the budget to create new building just to store materials that have some historical importance, but they also throw away a lot. And archives are often understaffed and have a lot of unprocessed material. They don't necessarily keep everything that people want to donate because of lack of space and staff. And some important historical documents from private sources like companies can get lost because creating an archive cost money. If they go bust, it is uncertain if any government will take the material and invest in preserving it.
(Sorry if my comment sounded like I was saying ALL libraries must keep books/media through the legal deposit system - only a few per country do, like the Library of Congress or the French National Library. It's still a librarian job although archivists work there too.) Edit: for example my colleague's job is to catalog every harlequin book ever printed in our country. We do have an understaff problem but we do keep the books printed by these companies. And another colleague of mine is an archivist in a big tech company and keeps every meeting records etc... I'm not saying we have managed to preserve everything (Robespierre's letter to Danton is in private hands for example) but many films and tv shows and books, awful or not, are preserved thanks to this system.
Greed has completely ruined streaming. Everybody and their brother and their cousin has a streaming service that's not worth the money. And what pisses me off is I have like seven streaming services and every time I'm looking for a specific movie it's not on any of them so I started buying DVDs of the movies I can't find on streaming services off eBay for a few dollars. I've grown quite a collection because nothing's on any of the streaming services except for their stupid really really horrifically crappy originals. I honest to God never thought I would buy another DVD player and take up space in my house with DVDs but here we are. Pirate Bay here I come.
Can I ask, respectfully, why you have so many services? And what they are? I know prices are staggered, depending on the service, but it seems like you could be spending anywhere from $50 to $90 dollars a month. I don't know many people who have more than three services, which is why I'm asking you. I use two, not counting Spotify, and I am already overwhelmed by how much is out there! Do you just really enjoy film?
@@glitteriable I get Max, peacock and Apple TV for free. Peacock and Max are a deal I worked out with my cable provider years ago. They gave me them free for life to keep me as a customer. The Apple TV came free with my new TV. I pay for Hulu & Netflix. Disney as an add on to my Hulu for an extra $2 a month. I also have Amazon prime at a discounted rate of $6.99 a month and I have free Paramount through something else that I signed up for and gave me a free 6-month trial. And to top all of that off I pay for RUclips premium. It's $25 a month for me and all of my kids including my adult kids. My adult kids also use all of my streaming services at their houses except for Netflix because they suck. We all watch RUclips more than anything else. Oh and I also get free basic cable with my internet.
The thing that has made me return to scouring charity shops for dvds again was moving country and changing my amazon account country....who knew you lose all your "bought" films and tv shows when you do that? Never ever "buying" virtual media again
The editing of episodes of shows without warning the audience or giving them the option to see an earlier available version is what really scares me. There's a lot of questions on censoring and propaganda that must be discussed. That is why I support pirating, we need to have a way to access things that companies have removed.
Agree. Or things like the removal of the D&D episode of Community where Chang dressed up as a “dark elf” because they were worried people would see it as blackface (which it was not). It was a genuinely touching episode and brilliantly crafted and it sucks that they can pull it and make it seem like it never existed.
Even shows like Friends, they cut down some jokes so it runs for a slightly shorter time. It's frustrating when you're waiting for a joke that they've cut out. I own the dvds
Thats such a weird take...you could have edited VHS and DVDs and it was not written anywhere they were. A lot of early short films had multiple versions and very rarely do you have all of them preserved. "Lost media" Is not new and piracy isnt a magical tool that allows to find everything. Especially in an era where pirate sites copy each other. If one has a brokem version, most of the time, all of them have tje broken version.
@@willrmmerhunter I'm not saying piracy is a solution, it is a necessary tool in an age where we are seeing lack of transparecy and censorship from the companies that own phisical media. Not only that, but there are movies and shows like Rise of the Pink Ladies or Willow, for example, that you simply can't find outside piracy websites because they were removed from their platforms. Phisical medial also had a lot of issues, yes, but once you owned something, it didn't go away nor was it changed without your knowledge. I'm not saying studios didn't change stuff in future editions of VHS or DVD, I'm saying tha once you owned one, that one could not be changed.
@NICMACYO None, not even books or paintings, preserving media is an ongoing process, work done by restorers and archivists. With digital storage, some types last longer than others: tape drives last longer than hard disc drives which afaik last longer than solid state drives. However!!! it's easier for any information art or media to last if there are lots of copies of it... Gosh I hope mina considers at least keeping backups!
@@toericabaker I’ve heard a ton about SD and memory sticks even hard drives not working years later, I have things to back up but not sure what’s actually reliable
@@jennig3057 i don't think netflix was ever free because they had to mail dvds... maybe I missed something when it went to streaming but I thought the point of Hulu originally to rival Netflix was that it was ad-supported rather than a paid subscription
it’s crazy how steamers are making ppl pay for a subscription even with ads. sure you get a reduced amount of ads but there are still ads wtf. at least youtube is free with ads
As an Archivist and Librarian who's ended up specializing in media, your part on owning nothing and loosing so much content is what I preach every day! Thank you for elevating this problem on your platform, it's really scary how so many people don't realize we've created a dark age as internet and digital born content is not being systematically saved like past physical media.
I feel the fatigue so much. I open Netflix, want to watch a specific movie, it's not there anymore, start scrolling and end up not watching anything because it's just too much. I still have dvds of my favourite movies so I can watch them at any time I want and I don't get overwhelmed by the amount of dvds I have.
For years me and my dad were the weirdos holding onto our collection of dvds and constantly getting told to just get rid of them, its so vindicating to have people now talking about how nice dvds are compared to streaming!
Eh everything's fleeting anyways What will you do when you dvd player break and no new ones are being made? Even if there would be an untouchable storing method, humans keep repeating history regardless of how well or poorly its been recorded
THIS!!! I don't pay for a single streaming service. If it's not on a free app like Tubi or Peacock, then I wait until it is OR look for a copy for $3 at goodwill.
Same! There is something about DVDs that streaming sites can never replicate. It's the physical feeling of holding a piece of media. I think as well that given that some films are not easy to find even on streaming sites. It becomes truly special.
I was radicalized the day I found out that Ever After (1998) was nowhere to be found on the internet but we had the DVD...that disk is a family heirloom now
When the first couple of streaming services started popping up & pulling their content from Netflix, my friend and I predicted that eventually all the networks would have their own streaming site. But eventually people would get annoyed with paying for multiple separate platforms. So some company will come along and strike a deal with most streaming companies to bundle them together and bam we basically have cable again accept it's through the internet.
I feel the same way about video essays on RUclips. Some of them are brilliant and very contemporary, but will be lost in a matter of decades. I’m planning to download and save a sample of them in my digital archive, to preserve present content for the future, when video formats and language have changed drastically.
I think another underlying perpetuator of the streaming fatigue is the recent WGA/SAG-AFTRA strike. Prices continue to rise on the consumer level, but we know that money is not going to the writers and actors, even though none of the media on these streaming services would exist without the writers and actors behind it. I know that when Netflix asks me for another $3 every month, that extra money is not going to the people who actually put in the most work and creative energy to be able to create the shows and movies I'm paying to watch. I have zero idea where that money is going, and that's so incredibly frustrating as a consumer.
it's overwhelming as a poor person living in a 3rd world country the amount of streamings and content I cannot access because it costs an amount I cant spare. either this or my favorite cartoons and movies are simply not available or quiquly put out of the streaming service (I'm looking at toy hbo max) so yeah, basically my only resource is piracy when the one thing I like to watch is not available in any viable way.
exactly this, i've resorted to use some pirate streaming platforms, it's unbelievable how pirates do a better job consolidating all the content on one single streaming service, and then there's companies who want their own separate platforms out of greed
Not to mention that many of those streaming services aren’t even available in the global south, which means either shelling out for both VPN *and* the streaming service, or resorting to the high seas. Soz Starz, I can’t watch your pirate show (Black Sails) legally unless you make it available beyond the US!!
@@musicismyweapon1000I used to go to cuevana, but I’m pretty sure every version of that website has now shut down bc the fbi hunted down the people that owned it 🥲
What grinds my gears is that the reluctance to release streaming original shows/movies on DVD is becoming a more common occurence and just the slow withdrawal of physical media from most retailers. It's painful to find an incredible peice of work that engages you but can only be accessed through a platform.
This is how I feel about Percy Jackson tv show, rurouni kenshin the final two movies, AND shogun! I like to own my movies and the fact I kind find these and had bought a bootlegged rurouni kenshin on accident because I was desperate
Its interesting what you said about people preferring low budget. I like watching youtube videos because they're always filmed in someone's house, making me more connected to the creator and making it more relatable and comforting to watch, even with the good quality lighting and camera. It would feel weird if they suddenly moved to a studio so I kind of get it.
20:55 This baffled me the most. Why on earth would you turn on something new as "background noise"? When I'm gonna watch a new show or movie, I treat it how I would if I was in a theater: have a snack but otherwise give it my undivided attention. You save the "background noise" viewing for shows and movies that you've seen a bajillion times.
Yes the idea of two screens at once stresses me out! Maybe it’s cause new films and series are so samey and barely entertaining anymore? Remakes and live action versions of the same stories, plot lines and cliché is dull af.
The problem with streaming is also the huge number of shows getting produced by the streamers and then cancelled for no reason - one ludicrous example being Our Flag Means Death, which had incredible viewing figures, very passionate fans, and was basically given very little budget for its second season, and then cancelled despite once again being at the top of their series viewing figures. I'm also pissed off at the loss of I'm Not OK With This, Lockwood and Co, Shadow and Bone, Cloak and Dagger, and probably more that I'm forgetting. Here in the UK it's also a bit of a lottery as to what is going to be on which platform, for instance The Great seasons 1 and 2 are on one platform but season 3 is on another, and I still haven't found how to watch season 9 of Brooklyn 99! Anyway, yes, streaming fatigue is definitely upon us and it sucks.
YES I remember when HBO max canceled the Batgirl show despite production being almost done already. It's unfair to the fans cast and crew that they just cancel these shows like that
I honestly will never forget the disappointment of The OA being cancelled. also Mindhunter and The Society. but it really is demoralizing when you realize how little it matters how passionate the fans of something are because an entirely profit driven corporation is in control of the thing you love/have gotten invested in, and of the creators that worked on it
Netflix cancelled Dark Crystal; Age of Resistance 5 years ago, after 1 season, cliffhanger ending........and the fanbase is STILL clamouring for the 2nd season to be made. 😠
The point about that we continuously pay but don't own anything really hit me. Also the fact that the media of my youth is extremely perishable. Sometimes it feels like, at the same time, we live in an overabundance of content and the wasteland of creativity, because the pressure to profit is so enormous. Great video, Mina.
That’s why my husband has been buying all his all time favourite movies and TV shows on DVD. He doesn’t want to risk them being at the mercy of these platforms to decide when or if they will be available anymore. Not to mention that they can sometimes edit the original because someone suddenly decided that certain scene is no longer “appropriate” for whatever reason 🙄
It's the same thing with the games industry. Like I have GTA Vice City and San Andreas on disc and when looking to see if I might also get it on Steam I discovered that they removed a whole bunch of tracks from the music due to licensing issues. So it's not even just censoring that's an issue when it comes to edited content. There's stuff removed for business reasons like licensing, there are visual gags removed from shows due to cropping the picture to fit the resolution of modern TVs/Monitors, hell they'll even adjust scenes to remove sponsorship elements or layer on a different sponsor using CGI.
It’s sad, the mindset of streaming and loss of physical media. My mom has a lot of DVD’s and wanted a new PC, and when she asked the dude at Best Buy, he really said, “Discs for shows and movies are completely obsolete, so there’s no point in PC’s coming with DVD players.” She was hurt by it, but we ended up buying a PC somewhere else with a DVD player. It’s sad knowing we just accept it and roll over. It’s because of companies and their monopolies on things that have started me on a physical media trip!
Hard driving your work is becoming more and more important for writers. My first ever freelance piece at i-D magazine is lost because Karlie Kloss decided to buy the site and make it a newsletter instead. Dead links are way too common
The Netflix menu has way too many categories and the same content shows up in different categories. It takes forever to find something to watch and what you end up with is usually pretty terrible.
The auto play when you’re flicking through is jarring as hell too! It’s all bargain bin B movies anyways, probably better off buying the physical copy of a classic.
For someone who functions entirely the "high seas" way when it comes to movies and series, it feels impossible to imagine how anyone lives like this. Paying 50, 60, 100 bucks a month for all your streaming services? For movies you might not even own anymore next month if it's taken off? I'm freaked out whenever I remember a majority of people somehow put up with it.
I guess it comes down to having to find sites that haven’t shut down and navigating different sites to find exactly what you are looking for. I know in my case I much rather pay since the “stress” of searching can be overwhelming for my already dwindling health crisis. If anyone has any “sites” they could recommend that would be great as well.
Yeah if anyone can recommend any safe sites for movies, that'd be great. I used to sail lol, while I'd like to pay and support these days, I'm not above "saving" things that are just not available elsewhere. I just don't know where to go.
One of the saddest things about Netflix in particular is how they would not renew shows for more seasons if it wouldn’t bring any more subscriptions, which was the case even if these shows had massive fan bases. I stand in solidarity with my fellow Anne with an E fans 😔🤚
there's a dvd rental place near my apartment and honestly it's so fun getting to browse the shelves and see what title sticks out before you can even think of what you want, not to mention how nice it is to be able to ask staff for recommendations when you cant decide what you want to watch
Exactly, I miss the experience of going to Blockbuster when i was a kid, it was really fun picking movies that way. I just remembered how we would plan it, we would take 2 or 3 movies and decide which was for friday night, Saturday and sunday, the best ones were always Friday nights with snacks
All this talk of media archiving and modern censorship reminds me of my own personal vendetta against Disney: their treatment of the Muppets Christmas Carol. In the original release, there is a sad song in the middle that really helps to humanize Ebenezer Scrooge. It's honestly one of the most poignant points of the film. It made it into theatres and on the VHS. But then when Disney bought the rights, their decided it was too "sad" for children, and suddenly that scene was cut out entirely. Gone. It wasn't on the DVDs and it sure as heck wasn't on Disney+. The first time I tried to stream it (we lent out our VHS and we never got it back [still salty about that] ), I was so confused when the movie skipped right over such an integral piece of the plot. I will never not be mad at the executives.
I'm sorry, what? We watched the Muppets Christmas Carol every winter from DVD, I've never checked the streamed version. Did they really cut a whole song?
@@keirahazlewood4223They did for most DVD releases, but if you go to “extras” on the Disney+ version you’ll see “The Muppet Christmas Carol (Full Length Version)”. That one includes the song, but you have to go digging for it.
@@keirahazlewood4223 Yep. It's not in the primary version stored on +. But if you dig on the "bonus features", they've finally uploaded the entire original release. But the fact that the primary, edited version is the one most people will see is a crime
Honestly you should go for it. Second hand DVDs are practically worthless these days, you can find them for one euro a piece or even less in a lot of shops. It’s what I’ve been doing, because I had to stop using my friend’s Netflix account when Netflix doubled down on account sharing.
@@kryptofreak74 My family actually started collecting DVDs right from the start (so late 1990s/early 2000s), well guess what! The older ones don't work anymore. And we took excellent care of them, so no scratches or anything. They are simply too old to be played on modern DVD players/external DVD drives.... (And it was annoying enough that most computers/laptops don't even come with internal DVD drives anymore). Guess I can just dump about 50 DVDs right into the trash :( so sadly you're spot on...
@@kaja4105Considering the size of your collection, wouldn't it be worth it to buy an older model of DVD player if you watch a lot of old DVDs, instead of getting rid of them? Just curious! :)
I like that you added the quote "I'm 32 year old with no kids, no student loans, and no intentions to buy another house. I will use my money to support artists." That's great. I love the sensitivity of showing some people can and want to support artists, but many of us can't for various reasons.
I feel like these companies are taking advantage of society's collective addiction to content. (I'm not saying I'm not addicted!) Seeing how heartless and vacant The Rings of Power was was the final straw that made me want to get back into reading again and learn how to knit, just because I don't want to be used up and spat out by some company that does not have my interests at heart, or the interests of passionate artists, for that matter.
@@chimominino Thanks! I have a setting, not sure if its good, but it is in the void of between galaxies…i hope to make the setting an open setting not an ip….that essentially it would be open to everyone…not sure if thiat is good or foolish or whatever.
@Marinaaduran reddit has good forums for it, which is important because you newd to get the safe sites not the dangerous copy cats, and they are often shut down so you need to know what new addresses theyve moves the sites to. So join the communities to stay updated and knowledgeable
These streaming companies are forgetting, that A LOT of us spent our formative years watching content online for free. We havent lost the skills and the offer is still available.
The worst part is when they remove something from their own studio and it’s not accessible anywhere cos no physical copy was released 😞 if you do need to find physical media the library does help
Growing up in the '90s without cable nor a need for it, I understand that everyone needs to get paid, but TV has been free for so much of my life that it feels very strange to me that people I know actually pay for streaming services. It's very much the Watcher thing; RUclips has been free for so long that it doesn't feel good to be asked to pay for it now, or lose what you're used to. But that's very much true of every streaming service, if you're old enough to remember when Hulu was free, when everything was released on DVDs you could just get from the library, when most mainstream TV was just on the free channels everyone had.
I just want to say that, as someone training to be a digital archivist, I LOVE this video. These are the exact issues we that talk about in my courses, and I’m so glad that people are sharing it with the general public. Support physical media ya’ll! We really need to start speaking out or else we will loose so, so, SO much work. I also appreciate that you talked about needing to preserve “undesirable” work. That’s a huge talking point of mine- like yeah you may think this movie is worthless but there is someone out there who will find value in it and we deserve to preserve it for them. We need to remove bias from archiving, yk?
That’s what stresses me out about streaming, there are so many movies that have essentially ceased to exist if a digital version is not available. People are saying get DVDs from the library, I grew up gettting DVDs from the library and let me tell you 75% of them were scratched, so the likelihood of actually getting through the entire thing is slim. I wish someone could work on archiving old movies…that’s a streaming service I would pay for nothing new all movies 20+ years old
The way streaming uses content reminds me a bit of how some creators use RUclips. Many channels don’t creating evergreen content, and are mainly creating clickable, trendy, and discardable content. They are just worried about quick engagement.
Honestly, this is kind of the essence of the problem. Art in a capitalist society becomes content, a product to be sold rather than you know a piece of art. Movies and TV are now products meant to be easily consumable whilst doing other things, books are compilations of tropes so booktok can add them to their goodreads. Music is made up of short clips that will be trendy on tiktok. The internet should make art more accesible but instead its making it more expendable.
Love love love your take on the disappearance of 2000-2010 content. There is something a bit scary about it. I mean I'm 26 I spent quite a lot of time on those foregone websites. Now half of the stuff I was doing / watching has probably vanished. It's like having your childhood stuff thrown away lmao
I actually do listen to longer youtube videos - the 2 hour to 10 hour ones. But I don't expect people who I starrted watchign for their short videos to start making longer and longer videos. Those video essayists already had long videos when I started following them. I like to play those videos while I'm doing something else - working, drawing, doing chores like sorting my laundry and such.
My apt building makes everyone have a cable /internet package and i love it fr. It’s nice to just turn on the TV and watch whatever is there vs. needing to decide on something like with streaming. Plus it includes on demand so i need less streaming services, apps, etc. because i can just watch a lot of stuff through my main cable company.
This new era of streaming really made me realize how important my dwindling physical media collection was! Now I have started growing my DVDs, CDs, VHS tapes, physical video games, and vinyls again. I feel very happy when I want to engage in some media and all I have to do is open a cupboard and pull it out. I’ve always been poor, like couldn’t always afford wifi and bills and such, so I didn’t stop using dvds until around 2019, I think that’s why it’s so easy and comfortable for me anyways
My biggest fear is that these new good movies won’t even get a dvd/blu-ray release - if Netflix doesn’t get into physical media (even if it’s only collectors editions of thete biggest successes) these movies and series will be lost. I wonder what the ramifications for film historians/scholars will be when they can’t get access to these movies/shows how will they be able to write about them?
yeah they're completely getting rid of tv shows/ movies off of streaming services if the services think they're not successful enough, like they never existed. and they're not even releasing physical copies of these shows/movies. it's creepy how the world can go on like these pieces of media never existed. it'll just be a memory in some fans' heads
what i don't see people talk about a lot is the extra content they used to put on dvd/blu-rays, like deleted scenes, outtakes, behind the scenes etc etc. there's so much value in those (at least in my opinion) and just to think what we missed out on because movies and shows have become just so sanitized in a way where we only ever get to see the final "clean" product and move on just makes me really sad
I love collecting DVDs from the thrift store and flea markets. There’s an abundance of them at the thrift store, and I spend most of my time in the DVD and CD section. I found a Criterion worth almost $30 for $1.99 at Goodwill. Plus if a film is hard to find physically in thrift stores, eBay has an abundance of DVDs. Physical media is great. I don’t have to go looking around on streaming platforms for one of my favorite films anymore hoping I can find it.
Plus the environmental impact of streaming is a big factor for me I do a lot of rewatching my favorite shows and movies and the energy cost of streaming is huge compared to watching stuff from a dvd or hard drive.
I still remember huddling around the tv on halloween at 8pm on a damn sunday night for the premiere of the Walking Dead. The cliffhangers really hurt every week.
I grew up as a pirate. I checked out netflix during that window when netflix was p decent and had most things, before it had many competitors. Got sucked in for a while, got lazy. But I'm happy to say I returned to my roots and I'm never looking back.
I’ve been stealing digital media for 20 years and I’m not stopping, but I’ve been buying/burning disks for just as long and that’s also not stopping. You know what radicalized me recently? When I found out that Amazon cut out hours of content from Hunters, including most harsh and resonant scenes, like the human chess scene - arguably the one deserving of preservation most. I didn’t even like the show that much, but I was so incredibly incensed by this I had to download a pre-cut copy for archival purposes
If there is something I want to watch, I will subscribe to one streaming service for one month. After I immediately make my payment, I go in and immediately cancel so it doesn’t auto-renew. This keeps me entertained while also saving my money.
29:30 you legit said exactly what I was thinking. I used to think future generations would have an easy time studying these years in history because everything is accessible digitally. But I didn’t account for online things disappearing without a trace with no way to know it ever existed in the first place. It’s actually kind of scary how easy it is to disappear completely from our digital world.
23:54 We used to treat movies like books, that's why they were called libraries! It brings you back the whole point of meaningless content, B and C movies have always existed but cinema is literature and treating the art/technology as a physical medium has increased the QUALITY of the ART. Plus the small and meditative joy of browsing through the shelves and skimming all the spines! RIP CD's and the video store, you were so good to us.
The muzak idea is wild because literally no one would pay to subscribe to muzak, and even if people are on their phones watching things, if they're paying for it that implies that they value it. If they just want background noise/visuals they'd use RUclips.
I really enjoy how your videos take one current event and recontextualizes it within larger historical and cultural phenomena. It’s my favourite format of video essays.
Seeing this video right after hearing that Netflix, Peacock, and Apple TV are gonna be offered in a bundle is hilarious. Someone on Twitter did mention that all of the bundling could be because the businesses are failing and they are banding together to stay afloat.
Surely they didn't need whole departments full of analysts to figure that out. I knew this day would come when I first heard of Peacock. It's unsustainable. If they really wanna make money they should bundle them and sell them all over the world instead of the rest of us getting things piecemeal.
I was on Amazon Prime a couple of days ago and I was watching the Bob Marley documentary from 2012. My mom came in and thought I was watching the biopic that came out on Paramount Plus weeks after that. That's how bad this problem is.
I can’t wait to move to a bigger place so I can build a huge physical movie, tv shows and music collection. The concept of buying digital content I don’t actually dispose of permanently never sat well with me
The amount of lost media is going to skyrocket in the future because of streaming, the lack of DVD sales, and streaming services having exclusive rights to certain things but removing them from their service.
I will say I think the aspect that you didn't cover enough to offer context was the financial aspect of the current streaming situation. Its not just netflix offered a large library on demand for a smaller price than cable originally for them to increase the price on consumers, but that the current financial situation of those consumers is constantly changing. The financial disconnect of the media and the consumer is not just on this parasocial level we see with watcher, but is indicative of sentiments towards these more established production houses. At the beginning of financial hardship viewing a piece of media with extravagant production can be viewed as a type of escapism, however there is a point where that scale tips. If a consumer is experiencing financial hardship and they are watching a piece of media that has a very high budget but they feel like the media doesn't match that budget its going to breed resentment. We had a case study of sorts with marvel. People are not just burnt out with the over saturation of the media but with the increase of production. People still think fondly of the original Iron man despite it being lower production budget (though still a very big budget) than later marvel movies because it wasn't reliant of the spectacle of the production. Endgame was a spectacle of a movie and though it did well, for many of the audience if felt like a stopping point. Further if a night at the cinema is the price of groceries for a few days, or a subscription is the price of a meal that day and thats a financial decision that you have to consciously weight, then a movie being bad is a far bigger upset than it would be for people where that is not a decision they have to think about.
i feel this way about music. i recently was looking for some songs from late 90s/2000s and couldn't find them on any streaming platform - had to dig up my old box of CD's. So glad i never decluttered them.
This video really made me feel concern and worry about the lack of ownership that we have and how everything in our era feels easy to vanish without leaving traces
I’m only 11 minutes in but a big part of the reason that Netflix started making their own content is because they were get squeezed by the studios over carriage rates. Studios got greedy and treated Netflix the way they treated cable providers. But Netflix hadn’t been around as long and didn’t have the dominance that cable had where they can just spread those added costs to their customers. So Netflix started making their own shows and films as a result. They didn’t have the media library of the major studios so they ramped up production . That’s why they were making a green lighting so many shows from just about anyone with a credit to their name. House of card didn’t appear out of nowhere.
Literally I refuse to pay for Netflix after they kicked me off my Dad’s account. The way they handled that role out makes me not want to support them at all.
Me too! My mom and I shared an account since Netflix streaming started. Plus when they kicked me out I realized I could’ve been block from the account and just not noticed for months because their new content isn’t interesting anymore and they kept losing all the shows I rewatch. So I am managing more than fine without Netflix lol
This is so interesting because movies weren't originally archived well at all. We have only a FRACTION of the silent era movies than the ones that were made. We only have one movie with Theda Bera starring in it, but she was MASSIVE. It seems like a constant pattern in the industry
I don't like digital anything. People don't believe me when I say that I don't like computers, but it's true. I don't feel in control of anything digital, everything can dissappear tomorrow or if you don't have where to charge your devices, you can't even access your files! I love my paper books, I love my ink pen, I love my CD's. I'm so tired of this world that often feels like a chase to buy things that offer a little bit of happiness but last so little time. I love your channel, Mina! ❤
So much for "the internet is forever" about the lost media, on the one hand I'm kinda happy some stuff is gone forever because I'm a different person from my MySpace era and I pray no one ever finds that info haha but yeah it is sad that so many people who built their livelihoods on the internet could have it taken away forever at any time, including this channel. That does make me a little more sympathetic to those creators who want to have control over their own platforms, but then that takes us right back to we can't afford to pay every for every platform out there! Catch-22...
the part on not being 'second screen enough' at 21:07 is so interesting because while that would be pretty unfortunate to get as a show note, I feel like that's the type of content that I watch on youtube the most. I like having it while I'm eating, doing chores, studying, or smth else, bc it feels like easily digestible content. To be honest, although I've watched all your videos for example I'd be hard pressed to remember anything from a couple videos back because usually none of the content is very relevant to me and I don't think I retain much, but I just enjoy hearing you talk about stuff you've researched in a well-organized fashion. I think this is also why longer videos are popular, as someone who watches and really enjoys Jenny Nicholson's evermore video despite not having been and not ever planning to go to that park. Once I've started a long video, I can just let it play on and it becomes kind of like a 'comfort video' in a sense that sitcoms/familiar shows are just nice as background noise, so that's probably also in part why those videos can continuously do well. Reminds me of how streaming services who wanted to be 'prestige television' are now really wishing they had sitcoms like Friends or the Big Bang Theory.
Biggest reason I gave up on Netflix is their inability to stick with an original series. There were multiple shows I really loved that Netflix would just cancel with 0 warning, often on cliff hangers where the show makers CLEARLY expected another season. I get that shows being cancelled is nothing new, but Netflix is notorious for churning out lots of stuff without ever really commiting, and even if shows do well, they get cancelled because they didn't get ALL of the views, just some of the views. Got to the point where I'm like why should I invest any of my time in interest in another Netflix Original when they're just gonna dump it? Other reason; losing access to shows when you're half way through watching them. Nothing worse than getting invested into a show, being like 5 seasons deep, and oop Netflix lost the rights and it's vanished. I don't even bother with streaming services any more. I just use youtube, buy physical DVDs of movies I like, pirate stuff, and have a single patreon sub. I have been considering going to Nebula, but that's probably only if youtube fully crashes and burns.
My mom was the manager at a Blockbuster for years, and I miss it! We could technically rent as many movies as we wanted and never had to pay late fees, but we still only took home a couple at once and returned them on time for the sake of the store, so that wasnt much different for us. I just always remember it being so exciting, going to the store and seeing the new releases, making a movie night of it. Now that we can watch whatever we want all the time (except for a lot of stuff we dont _actually_ want to watch, and assuming we pay the subscription every month), it makes it not as exciting or fun, especially since you have to subscribe to every different streaming service to watch the stuff you want.... Even if you only care about ONE single show from each particular service... Its so annoying
I did like The Adam Project and Red Notice though.... Lol were they "masterpieces" of cinema? Well no, however I distinctly remember watching both movies all the way through and enjoying them (I actually watched Red Notice twice), but couldn't remember what they were actually titled, even though I referenced both in conversation after watching them... I almost felt like it might've been a fever dream or something, or maybe Netflix is just gaslighting us, because I couldn't remember the titles of the movies (which might shine light on a whole separate issue tbh) 😂🤷
I'm convinced whoever says cable was better never had cable. Episodes or whole ass movies being unconviently cut and then you had to wait like 5 minutes to continue it, and therefore a 2 hour movie would turn into a 3 hour one. Not to mention how they always just played the same movies and episodes over and over again. Plus if you wanted to watch something then you had to schedule your day around that.
this is such an interesting take, because for me all of those points are pros, not cons. breaking up a movie is great! i can get up and stretch and get water and refill any snacks. reruns of beloved episodes are great! they can be played in the background for white noise without surprises. having to plan the day around a premier is great! i get to plan a hangout session with friends around a new release and we can discuss it when were done. i agree it does those things, i just think those things are good!
@@rickytebbe quick question, how familiar are you with the concept of built-in convenience? these are pros for me *because* they come *built into* the mode of delivery, but those built in conveniences arent present in streaming models. if i only wanted those experiences regardless of the medium of entertainment, id join a book club instead.
You’re describing early RUclips era cable, or at least the start of enshitification of cable after broadband internet became available to most markets in the US.
goddd there's so many pieces to this conversation...on the DVD vs streaming end an important bit that's completely and utterly lost w streaming is bonus content!! blooper reels, director's commentary, behind-the-scenes, games even!! the ANIMATED barbie movies had blooper reels for christ's sake lmao. obv not all DVDs had bonus content but i think it's important to point out that in many cases you were getting more than just the movie. there's no place for that in streaming tho. and on the subject of censorship & compensation for streams--i think platforms like nebula are really great for video essayists but it IS another subscription. wonderful video like always!!
I recently watched an older movie that I loved so much and ended up buying the DVD and a DVD player just so I could watch the bonus content! I think that convinced me that I need to rebuild my physical media collection. I’ve always kept physical books, but want to start with movies/shows too!
I miss the bonus features with things like the commentary from the directors or actors during the movie and the behind-the-scenes features. Sometimes you get something similar on RUclips or snippets on HBO but not frequently. I also hate when something streams and there is no dvd/blu-ray copies of it bc it wasn’t profitable enough. Like, D*sney+ had the movie Rosaline (2022) which was a fun kind of fluff of a movie, and it is only available to rent or buy digitally. 😐 I am currently hunting thrift stores and other second-hand buying for DVDs and blu-rays bc everything is so fleeting with subscriptions.
My biggest issue is that those big companies have become way to comfortable. Netflix not allowing one of its best features, (Sharing accounts) amazon prime having the AUDACITY to charge more for no adds (no adds were also one of the huge advantages of streaming services) AND the fact that they cancel so many good shows.. so basically everything that made streaming services better than normal tv has been removed lmao
We also have to accept that things will go into the abyss of the oblivion eventually. Nothing is preserved 'forever', let alone everything that humanity produces
Remember, y’all - Blockbusters still exist, and they’re called libraries! Your local library probably has hundreds of DVDs available for free.
but many shows nowadays are not even published on dvds nowadays :/
As a librarian it’s common for a lot of shows and movies that are in demand to either not be released on dvd, or it takes like 3 months for us to request it. Even then we may only get a few copies, and I live in a major metropolitan area. I can only imagine smaller libraries.
This is true but also most people don’t have a way to play DVDs anymore, like I bought myself an external disk drive for my laptop because I like my DVDs but even that is hard to come by
There is a streaming service called Kanopy and it's free with your public library. Kids shows are free but they give you 12 credits for adult TV shows or movies.
@UTTP-142Lol. You created your channel four days ago (as of this comment) liar. I know it's difficult, but go be a loser somewhere else.
My teenage job at Blockbuster largely consisted of getting yelled at by adults over their late fees
My mom just stole the dvds she didn’t return on time. Her logic was “well it’s just cheaper to buy it” and they were like “yah Karen that’s the point if you don’t return it on time then you shouldn’t have check it out in the first place”
Pay your late fees. Even if you are in sort of an extraordinary life predicament that prevents you from doing and being the person you actually are.
I worked at Family Video until 2020 and same 🥲 once someone arrived 5 minutes after we closed and they screamed at me through the door to check their movie in so they didn’t have a late fee
@@houseonsand or just return it in time lmfao
@@houseonsandwhat do u mean? She just kept them? So yeah she ended up paying for them. They would charge u 50$ a movie if not returned. If she didn't pay that it went on her credit. So she payed for it one way or another
@@houseonsand Hahahaha when I was in highschool I had this classmate who would just borrow books from the library and never give them back. Yes he stole. His thinking was the same, since he always forgot to return them and never wanted to pay late fees. What our school did was put his name up on the shame list, but he had no shame. Since it was only a school library, they couldn't actually force him to do anything and he got away with it. Can't believe I once had a crush on this poser asshole.
This is why libraries are important!!!! Please support your local libraries! Donate, volunteer, vote, tell your representatives to invest in them.
Not only are they spaces that hold onto copies of physical art that you can use for no upfront charge, they are ALSO FREE COMMUNAL SPACES which we are also losing to rampant capitalism.
Fully agreed! American libraries in particular are getting a lot of flack right now by conservatives (up to and including literal bomb threats) so they could use your support. Besides, the more people using the services, the more funding your library can apply for from government sources which lets them do more for you WITHOUT adding to local tax burdens.
Besides, you're already paying a few dollars a year in taxes for that space. PLEASE use it. We want you there, even if you're just hanging around using the free wi-fi, air conditioning/heating, and/or comfy chairs. You don't even have to read! Come play the board games or use the internet! Meet there with friends! Attend one of the free gatherings or classes there. There's so much.
@@katc3234YESSS!! This is something I am always telling my siblings and friends. AND I have a job interview at one next week!!
Libraries are literally so important❤
loosing to rampant capitalism and to conservative extremism or one could say even fascism
Yes sadly my local library has cut back its hours significantly in recent times and I had no idea how bad their funding situation is
it made me physically shake to hear my classmate call them a waste of tax money. the entitlement of people who have never felt need is astounding fr.
If buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing
Just borrowing and thats not bad
YAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!
(Edit: I just realized that this pirate yeling is also an acronyme for "Y'all racists". Blackbeard was right. Nothing content related, just a joke)
sharing is a moral imperative, as has been said by our great Aaron Swartz ❤
This is mentioned in the vid itself and is why you should buy the physical copies of movies you want or like so you can actually own them and support the creators in the process.
Stremio + Torrentio. Works on android and google TV ($40 HDMI dongle that is basically an android phone for tv). Hell I stream cyberpunk 2077 on my Chromecast with nvidia gforce now. Dont use Plex its a waste of time.
They really didn’t get that, the benefit of a streaming service, was convenience. It takes me an extra 5 minutes to find a free version, where as Netflix takes me 25 seconds.
But then they increased the fee…. again, added ads, cutting everything after the first season, refused password sharing.
At this point there’s no convenience. No ease of use. Just annoyance.
They don’t care about the benefits to the consumer, that was never their intention in the first place!
They are just making finding the free version even more and more difficult instead.
P.S:- So many of my go to websites that I use for finding stuff are nuked and then new methods are developed by people and I am always just so confused.
Netflix and Hulu keep changing their prices, then changing them back, then changing them again, and this is why I have trust issues
The password sharing thing is so irritating as a college student. I still live with my parents, they still pay my bills when I’m at college. But apparently I have to take the time once a month to drive home to see them to confirm if I still live with them. I already do that since I only live 2 hours away from home, but my friends who live several states/a plane ride away obviously cannot do that. I do not use those services anymore for obvious reasons, the principle of it is so stupid.
it would not take you 5 minutes. you find one website and youre set until its taken down.
What’s unrealistic is these companies expecting continuous growth year after year. This isn’t a product you need to buy more than one of. At 2024, it’s safe to assume that 90% of people who are willing to pay for a Netflix subscription have already bought one.
The market was never infinite.
This is a brilliant point.
I agree. Unfortunately capitalism requires growth and its unsustainably is really noticeable here
Yeah it’s baffling to me that companies don’t just self-sustain, they always have to keep growing. Growth isn’t unlimited unless you start pulling strings that shouldn’t be pulled.
exactly, and yet they continue to act as if it is and that they can. capitalism is unrealistic
We (humans) never learn. 😕
downfall of streaming means i hope everyone loves how to pirate again. piracy in the 00s was how i became a cinephile and watched world cinema, which led to me actually paying to attend film festivals to watch these films and support these filmmakers in real life and eventually actually work in film. if you are curious and love something enough, you'll be willing to pay for it.
Do you have any good search terms or sites you recommend? I used to pirate all the time in high school but I don’t know how to go about it nowadays, all my old sites are gone
@@risxra i am a devout stremio user, it's basically a collection of every pirating site out there and you can find anything and everything there
@@risxraSoap2day
You can also access a lot of film festival content legitimately and for free through your local public library streaming services such as kanopy or beamafilm. Or at least you should be able to if you have a properly supported, funded library service 🤞
@@risxra i'd love to tell you, but the last time someone posted a website of this kind, it went viral, got taken down and the creators got arrested 😬
one thing is always certain: mina slays every single outfit in every single video
Big facts.
@@haute03 yaaaa
I'm a media archivist. Not only will we lose finished media, but we'll also lose the raw footage as well. Converting from tape to digital is a super time consuming and expensive process. Therefore, it's reserved, as you said, for only what is deemed "important". A lot of our old tape machines are breaking down, and not many people still have the knowledge and expertise to fix them. Eventually, these machines will be unsalvageable and all this footage will be lost. Not to mention that tape itself disintegrates. So without tons of money and time, a lot of media, including like I said raw footage, will be lost forever.
how horrifying!
I how the tech hobbyists find a way
I hope humanity finds a way to avert this or come up with a solution
and who decides what is deemed "important" you know? man. what a can of worms that is too.
I’m still angry that my older brother converted all of our Super 8 home movies from our grandparents and parents into VHS, AND HE THREW AWAY THE ORIGINAL FILMS!
Then he converted those VHS tapes into DVDs, then he uploaded onto a google drive. And I haven’t seen any of them since and the original, super archival film is gone forever. People don’t understand that every time you convert over to the latest technology, and every time you copy these things, they break down. Also if you lose the link and/or don’t pay the subscription fee that becomes inevitable, you lose your media completely.
about the fan fiction joke, my mom was an english professor for decades and actually studied fan fiction. there are a lot of programs attempting to archive fan fiction. it’s actually more common than people would think for it to be looked at through an academic lens. it’s incredibly interesting to learn about the academic side of it
One of the best fanfiction sites is literally an archive - to quote, a "fan-run, nonprofit, noncommercial archive for transformative fanworks"
fanfic was basically my intro into the internet
Quite a lot of it used to be good. The stuff now is trash😂
@@essies4294"the grass was always greener when I was younger and had lower standards"
@@essies4294 it depends, honestly. there's this one site, archive of our own, where there's very high quality fanfiction. some are even full chapter book length, beautifully written. a lot of fandoms are going very strong on there to this day and are bustling with writers and readers. in some of the most popular fandoms, hundreds of works are made per day, most or all of which being very high quality! i don't doubt that things were good in the past, but they're certainly still good today.
Isn't it wild that streaming platforms are now discovering that the best structure for entertainment is, in fact, the TV way? Staggering releases means people stay interested for longer (so many platforms now release episodes weekly or a few episodes at a time), selling commercials keeps your company financially viable and bundling many services together so we don't have to pay for individual -channels- platforms.
on demand is still a lot nicer than time slots though.
@@dogwalk3 i may be a minority here but i always prefer the opposite, i love scheduled programming and moments where i discovered a series by accident and getting hooked by it 😂
@@dogwalk3 This does seem to be a matter of opinion. I used to be big into binging, but over the last couple of years it has fallen by the wayside for me. It's fine some of the time, don't get me wrong, just like it was fine to vedge and channel surf, some of the time.
But some of the time, if something is really interesting to you, you just gotta make it into an event. It's a concept called 'phenomonology' that the sum of experiencing something extends beyond just the things itself.
You get your snacks, you get your friends together, you all sit down to deliberate watch 'the big movie'. You talk with people about the 'big show' the next day at work. You anticipate the 'big game' long before it comes out.
@@aeoligarlic4024 plus I think scheduled slots is better for fanbases as a whole, since you can make an event out of watching the same episode at the same time no matter where you are, and then discuss the episode while waiting for the next one. Lol I just saw that Bustermachine worded this a lot better than I did
I don’t agree. I am tired of serialized content. Marvel movies. A series extended to a new season when it can perfectly ends before.
Netflix blocking password sharing was the the straw that broke the camel's back imo. Having the community feel of sharing passwords in a group of friends for netflix, hbo, apple tv etc. is so much better than forcing individualistic consumption of content. After all, streaming along to films/shows together and discussing it afterwards is half the fun!
The worst part is - it worked. Netflix's profits increased after banning password sharing which makes me think other streaming companies will follow, i fear
Does the ban actually function? My family shares an account and we all live in different places, but it's never been a problem. If it ever does I'm not getting my own account, they've lost too much of my trust by cancelling everything I like
@@Claelethit does. I had access to Netflix until like just a month ago. You may still have access for a while, but it’s coming. While I never decided to get my own subscription, a lot of people did. Validating Netflix’s decision, which is deeply unfortunate.
@@Claelethi think it depends, my parents ar divorced and my mom used my dads account but recently it got shut down and we have to like ask him for a code again or smth. idk the ins and outs or if weve gotten it back yet tho bc i dont really watch tv
@Claeleth It's catching little by little since the beginning of the year 😢, last week I had no problem, today I was blocked from every devices I have 🎉
I’m so mad that it worked…. Everyone talked so much shit about cancelling their subscriptions and it’s clear that was just smoke.
tv killed radio and streaming killed tv. i wish we could go back to the golden era of tv shows being 6 seasons and 22 episodes long. nowadays all we get is tv shows being 3 seasons with 8 episodes and they take 2 years or more to produce
Lmao looking at Bridgerton
Sameeee 😭 X-men 97 JUST came out and they’re already doing the season finale, it hasn’t even been 10 episodes!
i will take 6 one hour episodes of higher quality over 22 episode seasons with filler episodes any day
And the 3 season series get canceled after one or two, so the cliffhanger hell is more or less the norm 🤬
british tv viewing experience tbh LOL
Also Netflix keep cancelling their shows after one or two seasons, it’s so annoying. Thats what made me quit on them.
It's fr quantity over quality 😐
They finally got me on that this month, in addition to switching to ad-subscriptions. They had a few shows that made me hold on but the passwords I can’t share with friends, adding ads, and now killing a brilliant new show (imo for Dead Boy Detectives) in just four months this is untenable to me. I’m just so tired of it all.
Yes! I can’t believe Our Flag Means Death got canceled!! And Archive 81. Two of my favorite shows ever😢
@@that90skid67ARCHIVE 81! I’m still so salty!. After I heard that was cancelled, I’ve never watched a netflix produced show (even pirated) coz there’s not point getting hooked on something new, that will only get one season 😑
@@Benny-Arts same😔check out severance if you haven’t seen it. Season 2 comes out in January on Apple+
Since Netflix keeps cancelling shows after the 2nd season despite solid viewership because some algorithm told them the first two seasons gets the most engagement, I feel no responsibility to support them in any way. If they consider their shows disposable junk with no re-watch value, I will treat them as such.
The sucky thing is they coulda just planned for this from the start and greenlight 2 season only shows. Or Mike Flanagan type shows that only run for one seasons. That way they get their money and people still get a complete story.
It’s not JUST STREAMING TOO it baffles me how many apps require a subscription of $6-9+/month. Strava? That’ll be $12/month. Spotify? $6/10/month. Duolingo? $6/month Runna? $12/month? Like guys… COME ON. I miss the days of one time purchase (even though I was in elementary school when that was a thing)
I pay for Prime and it still has ads. :/
And it really adds up when you're from outside the US and the exchange rate is bad 🙈 although it's also a really good motivator not to subscribe to things lol
Spotify is the one that pisses me off the most, I have a student subscription but now they have a 3 year max on students which is ridiculous because I'm still a student.
@@wildmarjoramdieselpunk6396THIS is the most disgusting thing they did with prime, like what the actual fuck is wrong with them and why can they get away with it. I PAY SO MUCH, and now have to watch a shit ton of ads
@@ritzee13 Not four years at least? How about post grads too? Geesh.
Justice for every single one/two season show I loved on Netflix, that was inevitably canceled so they could allocate more funding to making yet another season of Stranger Things
or produce a "terrible" show or movie
I feel like shit I just want Dead End: Paranormal Park season 3
But you don't understand, they NEED another season of Big Mouth for some reason
Fate Winx Saga needs its season 3. Its quality was top tier and idk why it wasn't a hit.
Anne with an E!
Honestly I never watch real tv anymore, like not even Netflix or Hulu or anything, I’m almost exclusively on RUclips. It’s just easier 🤷♀️
Same, if I didn't have a partner with streaming subscriptions I would just not watch TV or movies except at friends' places. I've gotten back into reading books like I used to, and I love it.
It's easier, and better, with an adblocker.
@gleann_cuilinn same! I only ever watch TV with my husband on Friday night for pizza night, the rest of the week I read.
Same! I only watch on streaming if my friend has it and we watch together or something. I love RUclips lol Also, like Mina mentioned, I feel like the content Netflix is so cringe so like no thanks! lol
same, i'm an out of sight-out of mind person so netflix taking 2 years between seasons might as well mean the show is cancelled
The anxiety over never owning anything is how I feel about social media, actually. It seems like these goliath apps will inevitably fall and then where will these years of memories go? That really spooks me.
i've been thinking about that regarding snapchat! so many people use it as a camera roll but when it inevitably shuts down? all the photos/videos are gone!
It’s happened many times before, just at a much smaller scale. And it’s terrifying, absolutely. I lost a blog I had for all of highschool when they went bust. All my pictures were gone. I didn’t have any hard copies. It’s awful.
I'm really sad that I've lost a bunch of music I recorded and had uploaded to my MySpace music page. The computer I'd had it on went to computer heaven unexpectedly and I went looking for it only to realize my page was... gone. 😢
Honestly stuff like that is why I print my pictures for albums now. I try to do it about twice a year because even if it wasn't an app going down, I could always have a broken hard drive or a fried laptop. I've found the price has stayed pretty stable too and there's usually packages for large orders or print sales around holidays
I started thinking about this a couple of years ago, after vine closed I actually lost a bunch of short videos with friends . Since last year I started buying physical media and printing my pictures.
Im buying my favorite movies, tv shows, cd musics and mangas/books. There may be a time where Spotify closes and there’s no way I can remember all of my music. That kinda terrifies me
Many silent films pre-1927 don't exist anymore because celluloid was so flammable and films were considered throwaway. So much was lost. It hurts my soul that 30 years of the internet will have the same fate.
@MarshalMarrs-eu9yh Fair point.
The paradox of the digital age: everything we create is in a cloud forever but also “nowhere” forever. I remembered legendary photos we took 20 years ago that got lost when a device broke or whatever, and all we can do about it now is reminisce about the experience and the cool photo that once marked it. 😢
Yes!!! People say “the internet is forever”, but with the way it’s been changing, so much of the older internet has been completely lost to time
here's something that demystifies it: there is no "cloud" storage where everything just floats about in some internet ether, ready to be pulled from with a magic spell. cloud storage literally just means "storage on someone else's computer," and in the case for most of us, that someone is a corporation who will pull the plug as soon as that computer stops spitting out money :/
Yes!!! My kids use their holiday money on digital items. I’m always telling them that when they grow up, they won’t be able to hold onto any of their memories physically. It’s sad.
@@thewanderingstarseed it is sad, but tbh for me is also a good way to reduce waste, you purchase something you want and you won't need to have to throw it away when you don't want it anymore. Of course that only works for a limited amount of categories
Honestly, they can just have their photos printed out, or have it uploaded into file lockers like GDrive or Dropbox - absolutely NOTHING is holding back people from printing photos out.
Talking about lost media: this is why libraries are so vital. Through the legal deposit system, they *have* to preserve and archive everything, regardless of quality. I've been to the archives of the French National Library and it has kilometers of shitty VHS preserved, and mountains of video games, including educational ones no one wanted to keep. A famous japanese composer worked on an obscure educational game in the 90s and they were the only one to still have a copy.
Can you tell me which composer this is?
@@s-wo8781 it was Hajime Tachibana iirc!
I mean as a librarian who has studied some archive (those are two different area), no we do not. Librarians spend a lot of time throwing away things that are unpopular. It takes a lot of my work day, just looking for things to throw in the garbage to make space for new material that keeps on coming. Some university libraries might have the budget to create new building just to store materials that have some historical importance, but they also throw away a lot. And archives are often understaffed and have a lot of unprocessed material. They don't necessarily keep everything that people want to donate because of lack of space and staff. And some important historical documents from private sources like companies can get lost because creating an archive cost money. If they go bust, it is uncertain if any government will take the material and invest in preserving it.
@@Lily-ni5po Is there a way to donate it to the public instead of throwing them away?
(Sorry if my comment sounded like I was saying ALL libraries must keep books/media through the legal deposit system - only a few per country do, like the Library of Congress or the French National Library. It's still a librarian job although archivists work there too.)
Edit: for example my colleague's job is to catalog every harlequin book ever printed in our country. We do have an understaff problem but we do keep the books printed by these companies. And another colleague of mine is an archivist in a big tech company and keeps every meeting records etc... I'm not saying we have managed to preserve everything (Robespierre's letter to Danton is in private hands for example) but many films and tv shows and books, awful or not, are preserved thanks to this system.
Greed has completely ruined streaming. Everybody and their brother and their cousin has a streaming service that's not worth the money. And what pisses me off is I have like seven streaming services and every time I'm looking for a specific movie it's not on any of them so I started buying DVDs of the movies I can't find on streaming services off eBay for a few dollars. I've grown quite a collection because nothing's on any of the streaming services except for their stupid really really horrifically crappy originals. I honest to God never thought I would buy another DVD player and take up space in my house with DVDs but here we are. Pirate Bay here I come.
You should check out your local public library! They probably have a ton of DVDs both of movies and tv shows
Greed always ruins everything.
Can I ask, respectfully, why you have so many services? And what they are? I know prices are staggered, depending on the service, but it seems like you could be spending anywhere from $50 to $90 dollars a month. I don't know many people who have more than three services, which is why I'm asking you. I use two, not counting Spotify, and I am already overwhelmed by how much is out there! Do you just really enjoy film?
@@julianfang3483it’s almost like the system in which we operate rewards greed
@@glitteriable I get Max, peacock and Apple TV for free. Peacock and Max are a deal I worked out with my cable provider years ago. They gave me them free for life to keep me as a customer. The Apple TV came free with my new TV. I pay for Hulu & Netflix. Disney as an add on to my Hulu for an extra $2 a month. I also have Amazon prime at a discounted rate of $6.99 a month and I have free Paramount through something else that I signed up for and gave me a free 6-month trial. And to top all of that off I pay for RUclips premium. It's $25 a month for me and all of my kids including my adult kids. My adult kids also use all of my streaming services at their houses except for Netflix because they suck. We all watch RUclips more than anything else. Oh and I also get free basic cable with my internet.
The fact even wattpad has subscription and you have to pay for the best fanfics is crazy.
Huhhhh????😮 i didnt even realise that was a thing
FFN & AO3 are free
Ao3 is free
The thing that has made me return to scouring charity shops for dvds again was moving country and changing my amazon account country....who knew you lose all your "bought" films and tv shows when you do that? Never ever "buying" virtual media again
The editing of episodes of shows without warning the audience or giving them the option to see an earlier available version is what really scares me. There's a lot of questions on censoring and propaganda that must be discussed. That is why I support pirating, we need to have a way to access things that companies have removed.
Agree. Or things like the removal of the D&D episode of Community where Chang dressed up as a “dark elf” because they were worried people would see it as blackface (which it was not). It was a genuinely touching episode and brilliantly crafted and it sucks that they can pull it and make it seem like it never existed.
Even shows like Friends, they cut down some jokes so it runs for a slightly shorter time. It's frustrating when you're waiting for a joke that they've cut out. I own the dvds
Thats such a weird take...you could have edited VHS and DVDs and it was not written anywhere they were. A lot of early short films had multiple versions and very rarely do you have all of them preserved. "Lost media" Is not new and piracy isnt a magical tool that allows to find everything. Especially in an era where pirate sites copy each other. If one has a brokem version, most of the time, all of them have tje broken version.
@@willrmmerhunter I'm not saying piracy is a solution, it is a necessary tool in an age where we are seeing lack of transparecy and censorship from the companies that own phisical media. Not only that, but there are movies and shows like Rise of the Pink Ladies or Willow, for example, that you simply can't find outside piracy websites because they were removed from their platforms. Phisical medial also had a lot of issues, yes, but once you owned something, it didn't go away nor was it changed without your knowledge. I'm not saying studios didn't change stuff in future editions of VHS or DVD, I'm saying tha once you owned one, that one could not be changed.
Also though libraries👍👍 or a mix of both.
mina!!! please get external storage 😭 as a video artist, you saying u don't have copies of your videos had me spiraling
For real. And keep a back up copy at your parents or something. I knew a creator who lost all their hard drives in a house fire.
What sort of storage will stand the test of time though?
@NICMACYO None, not even books or paintings, preserving media is an ongoing process, work done by restorers and archivists. With digital storage, some types last longer than others: tape drives last longer than hard disc drives which afaik last longer than solid state drives. However!!! it's easier for any information art or media to last if there are lots of copies of it... Gosh I hope mina considers at least keeping backups!
@@andycakesends depends how long we're talking. Because everything will be dust in the end
@@toericabaker I’ve heard a ton about SD and memory sticks even hard drives not working years later, I have things to back up but not sure what’s actually reliable
remember when the literal point of Hulu was to stream TV shows free online (with ads)
Netflix for movies and hulu for shows!! I had completely forgotten this 😅
@@jennig3057 i don't think netflix was ever free because they had to mail dvds... maybe I missed something when it went to streaming but I thought the point of Hulu originally to rival Netflix was that it was ad-supported rather than a paid subscription
Netflix also used to encourage password sharing
it’s crazy how steamers are making ppl pay for a subscription even with ads. sure you get a reduced amount of ads but there are still ads wtf. at least youtube is free with ads
used to be able to watch Crunchyroll free with ads too
As an Archivist and Librarian who's ended up specializing in media, your part on owning nothing and loosing so much content is what I preach every day! Thank you for elevating this problem on your platform, it's really scary how so many people don't realize we've created a dark age as internet and digital born content is not being systematically saved like past physical media.
I am worried as time goes on, nothing of 2005 would remain.
I feel the fatigue so much. I open Netflix, want to watch a specific movie, it's not there anymore, start scrolling and end up not watching anything because it's just too much.
I still have dvds of my favourite movies so I can watch them at any time I want and I don't get overwhelmed by the amount of dvds I have.
For years me and my dad were the weirdos holding onto our collection of dvds and constantly getting told to just get rid of them, its so vindicating to have people now talking about how nice dvds are compared to streaming!
My mother was right be buy off those seasons of TV shows on DVD
Eh everything's fleeting anyways
What will you do when you dvd player break and no new ones are being made?
Even if there would be an untouchable storing method, humans keep repeating history regardless of how well or poorly its been recorded
I am a DVD girl! No commercials! watch as many times as you want! let your friends borrow it!
Plus commentary and extras!
I miss the days when every movie came with bloopers and extras, lots of kids movies would have games!
THIS!!! I don't pay for a single streaming service. If it's not on a free app like Tubi or Peacock, then I wait until it is OR look for a copy for $3 at goodwill.
Same! There is something about DVDs that streaming sites can never replicate. It's the physical feeling of holding a piece of media. I think as well that given that some films are not easy to find even on streaming sites. It becomes truly special.
I was radicalized the day I found out that Ever After (1998) was nowhere to be found on the internet but we had the DVD...that disk is a family heirloom now
That movie is amazing! I have the DVD as well!
Found it in 3 secs on a torrent website 🙈
I also have the dvd and this is one of my favorite movies. I am NEVER GETTING RID OF IT
I'm gonna see if it's on MyFlixer
Pretty sure u can find it through torrents
When the first couple of streaming services started popping up & pulling their content from Netflix, my friend and I predicted that eventually all the networks would have their own streaming site. But eventually people would get annoyed with paying for multiple separate platforms. So some company will come along and strike a deal with most streaming companies to bundle them together and bam we basically have cable again accept it's through the internet.
Lol
I feel the same way about video essays on RUclips. Some of them are brilliant and very contemporary, but will be lost in a matter of decades. I’m planning to download and save a sample of them in my digital archive, to preserve present content for the future, when video formats and language have changed drastically.
Streaming is like this close to going full circle and just becoming cable
I miss the golden era of cable. So many entertaining shows in scheduled programming. Really prevents me from binging
Return to cable, yessss! We must go back our old ways.
@@Bloomkyaaa as a cable technician, you don’t miss cable. trust 😭
I think another underlying perpetuator of the streaming fatigue is the recent WGA/SAG-AFTRA strike. Prices continue to rise on the consumer level, but we know that money is not going to the writers and actors, even though none of the media on these streaming services would exist without the writers and actors behind it. I know that when Netflix asks me for another $3 every month, that extra money is not going to the people who actually put in the most work and creative energy to be able to create the shows and movies I'm paying to watch. I have zero idea where that money is going, and that's so incredibly frustrating as a consumer.
Great point!!
That money is going to c-suite, and their financial backers.
it's overwhelming as a poor person living in a 3rd world country the amount of streamings and content I cannot access because it costs an amount I cant spare. either this or my favorite cartoons and movies are simply not available or quiquly put out of the streaming service (I'm looking at toy hbo max)
so yeah, basically my only resource is piracy when the one thing I like to watch is not available in any viable way.
exactly this, i've resorted to use some pirate streaming platforms, it's unbelievable how pirates do a better job consolidating all the content on one single streaming service, and then there's companies who want their own separate platforms out of greed
Not to mention that many of those streaming services aren’t even available in the global south, which means either shelling out for both VPN *and* the streaming service, or resorting to the high seas. Soz Starz, I can’t watch your pirate show (Black Sails) legally unless you make it available beyond the US!!
That's me. I pay Disney+ and Star+ through Mercado Libre, which comes with free shipping and discount coupons for certain categories.
I’ve always wondered what websites y’all use?
@@musicismyweapon1000I used to go to cuevana, but I’m pretty sure every version of that website has now shut down bc the fbi hunted down the people that owned it 🥲
What grinds my gears is that the reluctance to release streaming original shows/movies on DVD is becoming a more common occurence and just the slow withdrawal of physical media from most retailers. It's painful to find an incredible peice of work that engages you but can only be accessed through a platform.
This is how I feel about Percy Jackson tv show, rurouni kenshin the final two movies, AND shogun! I like to own my movies and the fact I kind find these and had bought a bootlegged rurouni kenshin on accident because I was desperate
Its interesting what you said about people preferring low budget. I like watching youtube videos because they're always filmed in someone's house, making me more connected to the creator and making it more relatable and comforting to watch, even with the good quality lighting and camera. It would feel weird if they suddenly moved to a studio so I kind of get it.
20:55 This baffled me the most. Why on earth would you turn on something new as "background noise"? When I'm gonna watch a new show or movie, I treat it how I would if I was in a theater: have a snack but otherwise give it my undivided attention. You save the "background noise" viewing for shows and movies that you've seen a bajillion times.
Yeah I can’t believe studio execs are listening to STREAMERS of all people to tell them how to direct their films
Yes the idea of two screens at once stresses me out! Maybe it’s cause new films and series are so samey and barely entertaining anymore? Remakes and live action versions of the same stories, plot lines and cliché is dull af.
some people just constantly need something on their TV whether they're paying attention or not, I've never understood it
The problem with streaming is also the huge number of shows getting produced by the streamers and then cancelled for no reason - one ludicrous example being Our Flag Means Death, which had incredible viewing figures, very passionate fans, and was basically given very little budget for its second season, and then cancelled despite once again being at the top of their series viewing figures. I'm also pissed off at the loss of I'm Not OK With This, Lockwood and Co, Shadow and Bone, Cloak and Dagger, and probably more that I'm forgetting. Here in the UK it's also a bit of a lottery as to what is going to be on which platform, for instance The Great seasons 1 and 2 are on one platform but season 3 is on another, and I still haven't found how to watch season 9 of Brooklyn 99!
Anyway, yes, streaming fatigue is definitely upon us and it sucks.
YES I remember when HBO max canceled the Batgirl show despite production being almost done already. It's unfair to the fans cast and crew that they just cancel these shows like that
you can't watch season 9 of Brooklyn 99 because it doesn't exist
I honestly will never forget the disappointment of The OA being cancelled. also Mindhunter and The Society. but it really is demoralizing when you realize how little it matters how passionate the fans of something are because an entirely profit driven corporation is in control of the thing you love/have gotten invested in, and of the creators that worked on it
Netflix cancelled Dark Crystal; Age of Resistance 5 years ago, after 1 season, cliffhanger ending........and the fanbase is STILL clamouring for the 2nd season to be made. 😠
So true. I would add High Fidelity to the list, such a good show for music lovers
The point about that we continuously pay but don't own anything really hit me. Also the fact that the media of my youth is extremely perishable. Sometimes it feels like, at the same time, we live in an overabundance of content and the wasteland of creativity, because the pressure to profit is so enormous.
Great video, Mina.
def. that's why we get so many crappy remakes, prequels and sequels every year
It's like we're stranded in the middle of the ocean, plenty of water, but nothing to drink.
That’s why my husband has been buying all his all time favourite movies and TV shows on DVD. He doesn’t want to risk them being at the mercy of these platforms to decide when or if they will be available anymore. Not to mention that they can sometimes edit the original because someone suddenly decided that certain scene is no longer “appropriate” for whatever reason 🙄
Watch DVDs yes
Spread my hashtag
#bringbackdvds
It's the same thing with the games industry. Like I have GTA Vice City and San Andreas on disc and when looking to see if I might also get it on Steam I discovered that they removed a whole bunch of tracks from the music due to licensing issues.
So it's not even just censoring that's an issue when it comes to edited content. There's stuff removed for business reasons like licensing, there are visual gags removed from shows due to cropping the picture to fit the resolution of modern TVs/Monitors, hell they'll even adjust scenes to remove sponsorship elements or layer on a different sponsor using CGI.
It’s sad, the mindset of streaming and loss of physical media. My mom has a lot of DVD’s and wanted a new PC, and when she asked the dude at Best Buy, he really said, “Discs for shows and movies are completely obsolete, so there’s no point in PC’s coming with DVD players.” She was hurt by it, but we ended up buying a PC somewhere else with a DVD player. It’s sad knowing we just accept it and roll over. It’s because of companies and their monopolies on things that have started me on a physical media trip!
Also blame the 'tech bros' who defend these companies' decisions by saying crap like "DiGital iS ThE FuTuRE."
Hard driving your work is becoming more and more important for writers. My first ever freelance piece at i-D magazine is lost because Karlie Kloss decided to buy the site and make it a newsletter instead. Dead links are way too common
The Netflix menu has way too many categories and the same content shows up in different categories. It takes forever to find something to watch and what you end up with is usually pretty terrible.
That’s a UX problem.
The auto play when you’re flicking through is jarring as hell too! It’s all bargain bin B movies anyways, probably better off buying the physical copy of a classic.
For someone who functions entirely the "high seas" way when it comes to movies and series, it feels impossible to imagine how anyone lives like this.
Paying 50, 60, 100 bucks a month for all your streaming services? For movies you might not even own anymore next month if it's taken off? I'm freaked out whenever I remember a majority of people somehow put up with it.
High seas hahahaha
Yo ho yo ho~~🎶….. you know the rest 😉
For reals. At least where I am Netflix costs about 1.5 dollars for a basic plan. Everything else is for the seas.
I guess it comes down to having to find sites that haven’t shut down and navigating different sites to find exactly what you are looking for. I know in my case I much rather pay since the “stress” of searching can be overwhelming for my already dwindling health crisis. If anyone has any “sites” they could recommend that would be great as well.
Yeah if anyone can recommend any safe sites for movies, that'd be great. I used to sail lol, while I'd like to pay and support these days, I'm not above "saving" things that are just not available elsewhere. I just don't know where to go.
One of the saddest things about Netflix in particular is how they would not renew shows for more seasons if it wouldn’t bring any more subscriptions, which was the case even if these shows had massive fan bases. I stand in solidarity with my fellow Anne with an E fans 😔🤚
We stand as well! I am so sorry about your show. I hope we can one day get our shows back.
there's a dvd rental place near my apartment and honestly it's so fun getting to browse the shelves and see what title sticks out before you can even think of what you want, not to mention how nice it is to be able to ask staff for recommendations when you cant decide what you want to watch
Exactly, I miss the experience of going to Blockbuster when i was a kid, it was really fun picking movies that way. I just remembered how we would plan it, we would take 2 or 3 movies and decide which was for friday night, Saturday and sunday, the best ones were always Friday nights with snacks
streaming was the best when watching online for free in a grey area of legal was the only form of streaming and everything was available on youtube
Sooo freaking true 🙌🏻 Those were the days!
there are still sites you can find hosting movies and tv shows for free. they've made it harder than it used to be to find these sites though
Would you say this was back in like 2015?
@@mcfrisko834More like the early 10s. My high school laptop went through the wringer but those days were so formative for me media-wise.
That’s my childhood
All this talk of media archiving and modern censorship reminds me of my own personal vendetta against Disney: their treatment of the Muppets Christmas Carol. In the original release, there is a sad song in the middle that really helps to humanize Ebenezer Scrooge. It's honestly one of the most poignant points of the film. It made it into theatres and on the VHS. But then when Disney bought the rights, their decided it was too "sad" for children, and suddenly that scene was cut out entirely. Gone. It wasn't on the DVDs and it sure as heck wasn't on Disney+. The first time I tried to stream it (we lent out our VHS and we never got it back [still salty about that] ), I was so confused when the movie skipped right over such an integral piece of the plot. I will never not be mad at the executives.
The love is gone❤
wow i wonder if you can still find it at the library. i remember i was able to watch that movie because i took out a vhs from the library
I'm sorry, what? We watched the Muppets Christmas Carol every winter from DVD, I've never checked the streamed version. Did they really cut a whole song?
@@keirahazlewood4223They did for most DVD releases, but if you go to “extras” on the Disney+ version you’ll see “The Muppet Christmas Carol (Full Length Version)”. That one includes the song, but you have to go digging for it.
@@keirahazlewood4223 Yep. It's not in the primary version stored on +. But if you dig on the "bonus features", they've finally uploaded the entire original release. But the fact that the primary, edited version is the one most people will see is a crime
Id almost rather just buy DVDs again--pay once have it forever. I dont like paying minth after month when i only watch specific titles.
Personally the route I'm taking, especially with DVDs being cheap in antique stores and eBay now
Honestly you should go for it. Second hand DVDs are practically worthless these days, you can find them for one euro a piece or even less in a lot of shops. It’s what I’ve been doing, because I had to stop using my friend’s Netflix account when Netflix doubled down on account sharing.
Until they incorporate software that makes the DVD stop working after a few years... or only work on ONE DVD player... or...
@@kryptofreak74 My family actually started collecting DVDs right from the start (so late 1990s/early 2000s), well guess what! The older ones don't work anymore. And we took excellent care of them, so no scratches or anything. They are simply too old to be played on modern DVD players/external DVD drives.... (And it was annoying enough that most computers/laptops don't even come with internal DVD drives anymore). Guess I can just dump about 50 DVDs right into the trash :( so sadly you're spot on...
@@kaja4105Considering the size of your collection, wouldn't it be worth it to buy an older model of DVD player if you watch a lot of old DVDs, instead of getting rid of them? Just curious! :)
I like that you added the quote "I'm 32 year old with no kids, no student loans, and no intentions to buy another house. I will use my money to support artists." That's great. I love the sensitivity of showing some people can and want to support artists, but many of us can't for various reasons.
I feel like these companies are taking advantage of society's collective addiction to content. (I'm not saying I'm not addicted!) Seeing how heartless and vacant The Rings of Power was was the final straw that made me want to get back into reading again and learn how to knit, just because I don't want to be used up and spat out by some company that does not have my interests at heart, or the interests of passionate artists, for that matter.
It make# me wanna write my own stories.
@@suryavajra Hell yeah. "I could do better than this" is the best motivation lol
@@chimominino I honestly am trying to create a Space Fantasy Setting and or Sorcery in Space to try to counter Star Wars Space Opera…lol
@@suryavajra Do ittt :D
@@chimominino Thanks! I have a setting, not sure if its good, but it is in the void of between galaxies…i hope to make the setting an open setting not an ip….that essentially it would be open to everyone…not sure if thiat is good or foolish or whatever.
I would like to thank my sister’s friend for showing 11-year-old me certain amazing websites that saved me from spending money on streaming.
Share them hello
@Marinaaduran reddit has good forums for it, which is important because you newd to get the safe sites not the dangerous copy cats, and they are often shut down so you need to know what new addresses theyve moves the sites to. So join the communities to stay updated and knowledgeable
These streaming companies are forgetting, that A LOT of us spent our formative years watching content online for free. We havent lost the skills and the offer is still available.
The worst part is when they remove something from their own studio and it’s not accessible anywhere cos no physical copy was released 😞 if you do need to find physical media the library does help
Growing up in the '90s without cable nor a need for it, I understand that everyone needs to get paid, but TV has been free for so much of my life that it feels very strange to me that people I know actually pay for streaming services. It's very much the Watcher thing; RUclips has been free for so long that it doesn't feel good to be asked to pay for it now, or lose what you're used to. But that's very much true of every streaming service, if you're old enough to remember when Hulu was free, when everything was released on DVDs you could just get from the library, when most mainstream TV was just on the free channels everyone had.
DVDs are still at libraries at least
@@LMason-qd7sq yes but very few tv shows are released on DVD now
@@LMason-qd7sq you guys have fancy libraries over there, the ones around me only consist of old outdated books 😭
@@aeoligarlic4024You can’t inter library borrow?
god i miss when hulu had a boat load of free kdramas 🥲
I just want to say that, as someone training to be a digital archivist, I LOVE this video. These are the exact issues we that talk about in my courses, and I’m so glad that people are sharing it with the general public. Support physical media ya’ll! We really need to start speaking out or else we will loose so, so, SO much work. I also appreciate that you talked about needing to preserve “undesirable” work. That’s a huge talking point of mine- like yeah you may think this movie is worthless but there is someone out there who will find value in it and we deserve to preserve it for them. We need to remove bias from archiving, yk?
Hey! Digital archiving is something I'm also very interested in, may I ask where you are training/what kind of education you're following?
That’s what stresses me out about streaming, there are so many movies that have essentially ceased to exist if a digital version is not available. People are saying get DVDs from the library, I grew up gettting DVDs from the library and let me tell you 75% of them were scratched, so the likelihood of actually getting through the entire thing is slim. I wish someone could work on archiving old movies…that’s a streaming service I would pay for nothing new all movies 20+ years old
The way streaming uses content reminds me a bit of how some creators use RUclips. Many channels don’t creating evergreen content, and are mainly creating clickable, trendy, and discardable content. They are just worried about quick engagement.
Honestly, this is kind of the essence of the problem. Art in a capitalist society becomes content, a product to be sold rather than you know a piece of art. Movies and TV are now products meant to be easily consumable whilst doing other things, books are compilations of tropes so booktok can add them to their goodreads. Music is made up of short clips that will be trendy on tiktok. The internet should make art more accesible but instead its making it more expendable.
Watching Mina’s videos when I’m procrastinating studying doesn’t feel like procrastinating because it’s well researched and actually teaches me sth
Fr im supposed to be doing math homework but he videos are to good its like im in a lecture
No literally, I’m like I’ll just hop on RUclips to give my brain a break from studying and now I’m watching a well researched lecture for fun.
This is so me, I should be studying for am exam but I'm here lol
@@EVELYN-eu9iw I have big exams in a week
@@Anoymous-f3v good luck! Make sure not to stress too much and take care of yourself
Love love love your take on the disappearance of 2000-2010 content. There is something a bit scary about it. I mean I'm 26 I spent quite a lot of time on those foregone websites. Now half of the stuff I was doing / watching has probably vanished. It's like having your childhood stuff thrown away lmao
I'm 28, and sure they deleted all my teenage cringe when all the sites I used to frequent were shut down, but at what cost?
I actually do listen to longer youtube videos - the 2 hour to 10 hour ones. But I don't expect people who I starrted watchign for their short videos to start making longer and longer videos. Those video essayists already had long videos when I started following them. I like to play those videos while I'm doing something else - working, drawing, doing chores like sorting my laundry and such.
My apt building makes everyone have a cable /internet package and i love it fr. It’s nice to just turn on the TV and watch whatever is there vs. needing to decide on something like with streaming. Plus it includes on demand so i need less streaming services, apps, etc. because i can just watch a lot of stuff through my main cable company.
This new era of streaming really made me realize how important my dwindling physical media collection was! Now I have started growing my DVDs, CDs, VHS tapes, physical video games, and vinyls again. I feel very happy when I want to engage in some media and all I have to do is open a cupboard and pull it out. I’ve always been poor, like couldn’t always afford wifi and bills and such, so I didn’t stop using dvds until around 2019, I think that’s why it’s so easy and comfortable for me anyways
My biggest fear is that these new good movies won’t even get a dvd/blu-ray release - if Netflix doesn’t get into physical media (even if it’s only collectors editions of thete biggest successes) these movies and series will be lost. I wonder what the ramifications for film historians/scholars will be when they can’t get access to these movies/shows how will they be able to write about them?
there are still people who pirate those and put them on external drives, so there's hope in that
Don’t worry too much the big hits at least will be preserved via piracy (there’s still lots of people burning dvds)
yeah they're completely getting rid of tv shows/ movies off of streaming services if the services think they're not successful enough, like they never existed. and they're not even releasing physical copies of these shows/movies. it's creepy how the world can go on like these pieces of media never existed. it'll just be a memory in some fans' heads
@@bastetowl3258 literally going to create an entire decade of lost media
what i don't see people talk about a lot is the extra content they used to put on dvd/blu-rays, like deleted scenes, outtakes, behind the scenes etc etc. there's so much value in those (at least in my opinion) and just to think what we missed out on because movies and shows have become just so sanitized in a way where we only ever get to see the final "clean" product and move on just makes me really sad
I love collecting DVDs from the thrift store and flea markets. There’s an abundance of them at the thrift store, and I spend most of my time in the DVD and CD section. I found a Criterion worth almost $30 for $1.99 at Goodwill. Plus if a film is hard to find physically in thrift stores, eBay has an abundance of DVDs. Physical media is great. I don’t have to go looking around on streaming platforms for one of my favorite films anymore hoping I can find it.
Friends of the Library sales have CDs and DVDs for $1. I found all the seasons of Arrested Development and Flight of the Conchords this way!
I used to think my dad was an old head doing this, now father knows best, and i'm now an old head lol
Plus the environmental impact of streaming is a big factor for me I do a lot of rewatching my favorite shows and movies and the energy cost of streaming is huge compared to watching stuff from a dvd or hard drive.
Oh Mina!!! You need to keep all your original work, not just the final edit! You can’t ever loose this amazing body of work
I still remember huddling around the tv on halloween at 8pm on a damn sunday night for the premiere of the Walking Dead. The cliffhangers really hurt every week.
I grew up as a pirate. I checked out netflix during that window when netflix was p decent and had most things, before it had many competitors. Got sucked in for a while, got lazy. But I'm happy to say I returned to my roots and I'm never looking back.
Garr!
I’ve been stealing digital media for 20 years and I’m not stopping, but I’ve been buying/burning disks for just as long and that’s also not stopping. You know what radicalized me recently? When I found out that Amazon cut out hours of content from Hunters, including most harsh and resonant scenes, like the human chess scene - arguably the one deserving of preservation most. I didn’t even like the show that much, but I was so incredibly incensed by this I had to download a pre-cut copy for archival purposes
I’m thinking about full time sealing the high seas
Honestly it’s time we all steal and make the ones in charge cry.
If there is something I want to watch, I will subscribe to one streaming service for one month. After I immediately make my payment, I go in and immediately cancel so it doesn’t auto-renew. This keeps me entertained while also saving my money.
Yep, why pay for multiple there’s only so much you can watch at a time.
29:30 you legit said exactly what I was thinking. I used to think future generations would have an easy time studying these years in history because everything is accessible digitally. But I didn’t account for online things disappearing without a trace with no way to know it ever existed in the first place. It’s actually kind of scary how easy it is to disappear completely from our digital world.
23:54 We used to treat movies like books, that's why they were called libraries! It brings you back the whole point of meaningless content, B and C movies have always existed but cinema is literature and treating the art/technology as a physical medium has increased the QUALITY of the ART. Plus the small and meditative joy of browsing through the shelves and skimming all the spines! RIP CD's and the video store, you were so good to us.
The muzak idea is wild because literally no one would pay to subscribe to muzak, and even if people are on their phones watching things, if they're paying for it that implies that they value it. If they just want background noise/visuals they'd use RUclips.
That's true, I don't turn on Netflix for background noise when I draw, I use RUclips video essays
I really enjoy how your videos take one current event and recontextualizes it within larger historical and cultural phenomena. It’s my favourite format of video essays.
Seeing this video right after hearing that Netflix, Peacock, and Apple TV are gonna be offered in a bundle is hilarious. Someone on Twitter did mention that all of the bundling could be because the businesses are failing and they are banding together to stay afloat.
Surely they didn't need whole departments full of analysts to figure that out. I knew this day would come when I first heard of Peacock. It's unsustainable. If they really wanna make money they should bundle them and sell them all over the world instead of the rest of us getting things piecemeal.
27:04 MA'AM?! now that's the most shocking thing on this video for me 😭 reminder for _everyone_ to have a physical storage device!
This is terrifying, I just got a dvd player because its actually cheaper than all of these streaming services
I was on Amazon Prime a couple of days ago and I was watching the Bob Marley documentary from 2012. My mom came in and thought I was watching the biopic that came out on Paramount Plus weeks after that. That's how bad this problem is.
I can’t wait to move to a bigger place so I can build a huge physical movie, tv shows and music collection. The concept of buying digital content I don’t actually dispose of permanently never sat well with me
23:24 small correction, the Dutch subtitles are actually swedish!
The amount of lost media is going to skyrocket in the future because of streaming, the lack of DVD sales, and streaming services having exclusive rights to certain things but removing them from their service.
I will say I think the aspect that you didn't cover enough to offer context was the financial aspect of the current streaming situation. Its not just netflix offered a large library on demand for a smaller price than cable originally for them to increase the price on consumers, but that the current financial situation of those consumers is constantly changing.
The financial disconnect of the media and the consumer is not just on this parasocial level we see with watcher, but is indicative of sentiments towards these more established production houses. At the beginning of financial hardship viewing a piece of media with extravagant production can be viewed as a type of escapism, however there is a point where that scale tips. If a consumer is experiencing financial hardship and they are watching a piece of media that has a very high budget but they feel like the media doesn't match that budget its going to breed resentment. We had a case study of sorts with marvel. People are not just burnt out with the over saturation of the media but with the increase of production. People still think fondly of the original Iron man despite it being lower production budget (though still a very big budget) than later marvel movies because it wasn't reliant of the spectacle of the production. Endgame was a spectacle of a movie and though it did well, for many of the audience if felt like a stopping point.
Further if a night at the cinema is the price of groceries for a few days, or a subscription is the price of a meal that day and thats a financial decision that you have to consciously weight, then a movie being bad is a far bigger upset than it would be for people where that is not a decision they have to think about.
i feel this way about music. i recently was looking for some songs from late 90s/2000s and couldn't find them on any streaming platform - had to dig up my old box of CD's. So glad i never decluttered them.
This video really made me feel concern and worry about the lack of ownership that we have and how everything in our era feels easy to vanish without leaving traces
I’m only 11 minutes in but a big part of the reason that Netflix started making their own content is because they were get squeezed by the studios over carriage rates. Studios got greedy and treated Netflix the way they treated cable providers. But Netflix hadn’t been around as long and didn’t have the dominance that cable had where they can just spread those added costs to their customers. So Netflix started making their own shows and films as a result. They didn’t have the media library of the major studios so they ramped up production . That’s why they were making a green lighting so many shows from just about anyone with a credit to their name. House of card didn’t appear out of nowhere.
Literally I refuse to pay for Netflix after they kicked me off my Dad’s account. The way they handled that role out makes me not want to support them at all.
Me too! My mom and I shared an account since Netflix streaming started. Plus when they kicked me out I realized I could’ve been block from the account and just not noticed for months because their new content isn’t interesting anymore and they kept losing all the shows I rewatch. So I am managing more than fine without Netflix lol
This is so interesting because movies weren't originally archived well at all. We have only a FRACTION of the silent era movies than the ones that were made. We only have one movie with Theda Bera starring in it, but she was MASSIVE. It seems like a constant pattern in the industry
I don't like digital anything. People don't believe me when I say that I don't like computers, but it's true. I don't feel in control of anything digital, everything can dissappear tomorrow or if you don't have where to charge your devices, you can't even access your files! I love my paper books, I love my ink pen, I love my CD's.
I'm so tired of this world that often feels like a chase to buy things that offer a little bit of happiness but last so little time.
I love your channel, Mina! ❤
CD players are a type of computer..
Oldie
So much for "the internet is forever" about the lost media, on the one hand I'm kinda happy some stuff is gone forever because I'm a different person from my MySpace era and I pray no one ever finds that info haha but yeah it is sad that so many people who built their livelihoods on the internet could have it taken away forever at any time, including this channel. That does make me a little more sympathetic to those creators who want to have control over their own platforms, but then that takes us right back to we can't afford to pay every for every platform out there! Catch-22...
the part on not being 'second screen enough' at 21:07 is so interesting because while that would be pretty unfortunate to get as a show note, I feel like that's the type of content that I watch on youtube the most. I like having it while I'm eating, doing chores, studying, or smth else, bc it feels like easily digestible content. To be honest, although I've watched all your videos for example I'd be hard pressed to remember anything from a couple videos back because usually none of the content is very relevant to me and I don't think I retain much, but I just enjoy hearing you talk about stuff you've researched in a well-organized fashion. I think this is also why longer videos are popular, as someone who watches and really enjoys Jenny Nicholson's evermore video despite not having been and not ever planning to go to that park. Once I've started a long video, I can just let it play on and it becomes kind of like a 'comfort video' in a sense that sitcoms/familiar shows are just nice as background noise, so that's probably also in part why those videos can continuously do well. Reminds me of how streaming services who wanted to be 'prestige television' are now really wishing they had sitcoms like Friends or the Big Bang Theory.
Biggest reason I gave up on Netflix is their inability to stick with an original series. There were multiple shows I really loved that Netflix would just cancel with 0 warning, often on cliff hangers where the show makers CLEARLY expected another season. I get that shows being cancelled is nothing new, but Netflix is notorious for churning out lots of stuff without ever really commiting, and even if shows do well, they get cancelled because they didn't get ALL of the views, just some of the views. Got to the point where I'm like why should I invest any of my time in interest in another Netflix Original when they're just gonna dump it?
Other reason; losing access to shows when you're half way through watching them. Nothing worse than getting invested into a show, being like 5 seasons deep, and oop Netflix lost the rights and it's vanished.
I don't even bother with streaming services any more. I just use youtube, buy physical DVDs of movies I like, pirate stuff, and have a single patreon sub. I have been considering going to Nebula, but that's probably only if youtube fully crashes and burns.
My mom was the manager at a Blockbuster for years, and I miss it! We could technically rent as many movies as we wanted and never had to pay late fees, but we still only took home a couple at once and returned them on time for the sake of the store, so that wasnt much different for us. I just always remember it being so exciting, going to the store and seeing the new releases, making a movie night of it. Now that we can watch whatever we want all the time (except for a lot of stuff we dont _actually_ want to watch, and assuming we pay the subscription every month), it makes it not as exciting or fun, especially since you have to subscribe to every different streaming service to watch the stuff you want.... Even if you only care about ONE single show from each particular service... Its so annoying
I did like The Adam Project and Red Notice though.... Lol were they "masterpieces" of cinema? Well no, however I distinctly remember watching both movies all the way through and enjoying them (I actually watched Red Notice twice), but couldn't remember what they were actually titled, even though I referenced both in conversation after watching them... I almost felt like it might've been a fever dream or something, or maybe Netflix is just gaslighting us, because I couldn't remember the titles of the movies (which might shine light on a whole separate issue tbh) 😂🤷
I'm convinced whoever says cable was better never had cable. Episodes or whole ass movies being unconviently cut and then you had to wait like 5 minutes to continue it, and therefore a 2 hour movie would turn into a 3 hour one. Not to mention how they always just played the same movies and episodes over and over again. Plus if you wanted to watch something then you had to schedule your day around that.
this is such an interesting take, because for me all of those points are pros, not cons. breaking up a movie is great! i can get up and stretch and get water and refill any snacks. reruns of beloved episodes are great! they can be played in the background for white noise without surprises. having to plan the day around a premier is great! i get to plan a hangout session with friends around a new release and we can discuss it when were done. i agree it does those things, i just think those things are good!
@scottydog6713 but none of those things viewed from the perspective as pros require cable. You can still just do those things.
@@rickytebbe quick question, how familiar are you with the concept of built-in convenience? these are pros for me *because* they come *built into* the mode of delivery, but those built in conveniences arent present in streaming models. if i only wanted those experiences regardless of the medium of entertainment, id join a book club instead.
This comment makes me feel old lol
You’re describing early RUclips era cable, or at least the start of enshitification of cable after broadband internet became available to most markets in the US.
goddd there's so many pieces to this conversation...on the DVD vs streaming end an important bit that's completely and utterly lost w streaming is bonus content!! blooper reels, director's commentary, behind-the-scenes, games even!! the ANIMATED barbie movies had blooper reels for christ's sake lmao. obv not all DVDs had bonus content but i think it's important to point out that in many cases you were getting more than just the movie. there's no place for that in streaming tho. and on the subject of censorship & compensation for streams--i think platforms like nebula are really great for video essayists but it IS another subscription. wonderful video like always!!
I recently watched an older movie that I loved so much and ended up buying the DVD and a DVD player just so I could watch the bonus content! I think that convinced me that I need to rebuild my physical media collection. I’ve always kept physical books, but want to start with movies/shows too!
I miss the bonus features with things like the commentary from the directors or actors during the movie and the behind-the-scenes features. Sometimes you get something similar on RUclips or snippets on HBO but not frequently. I also hate when something streams and there is no dvd/blu-ray copies of it bc it wasn’t profitable enough. Like, D*sney+ had the movie Rosaline (2022) which was a fun kind of fluff of a movie, and it is only available to rent or buy digitally. 😐 I am currently hunting thrift stores and other second-hand buying for DVDs and blu-rays bc everything is so fleeting with subscriptions.
My biggest issue is that those big companies have become way to comfortable. Netflix not allowing one of its best features, (Sharing accounts) amazon prime having the AUDACITY to charge more for no adds (no adds were also one of the huge advantages of streaming services) AND the fact that they cancel so many good shows.. so basically everything that made streaming services better than normal tv has been removed lmao
We also have to accept that things will go into the abyss of the oblivion eventually. Nothing is preserved 'forever', let alone everything that humanity produces