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    0:00 - intro
    2:24 - watcher entertainment discourse
    5:22 - the streaming economy
    14:27 - movies and tv are worse
    22:13 - we own nothing
    30:40 - the patreon era
    40:21 - conclusion
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  • @watchlistenwrite
    @watchlistenwrite 13 дней назад +8169

    Remember, y’all - Blockbusters still exist, and they’re called libraries! Your local library probably has hundreds of DVDs available for free.

    • @ridiaraspberry4095
      @ridiaraspberry4095 13 дней назад +256

      but many shows nowadays are not even published on dvds nowadays :/

    • @risteves8946
      @risteves8946 13 дней назад +368

      As a librarian it’s common for a lot of shows and movies that are in demand to either not be released on dvd, or it takes like 3 months for us to request it. Even then we may only get a few copies, and I live in a major metropolitan area. I can only imagine smaller libraries.

    • @risxra
      @risxra 13 дней назад +194

      This is true but also most people don’t have a way to play DVDs anymore, like I bought myself an external disk drive for my laptop because I like my DVDs but even that is hard to come by

    • @mspinguen
      @mspinguen 13 дней назад

      There is a streaming service called Kanopy and it's free with your public library. Kids shows are free but they give you 12 credits for adult TV shows or movies.

    • @cannibalisticrequiem
      @cannibalisticrequiem 13 дней назад

      ​@@UTTP-142Lol. You created your channel four days ago (as of this comment) liar. I know it's difficult, but go be a loser somewhere else.

  • @roxrou852
    @roxrou852 13 дней назад +3044

    What’s unrealistic is these companies expecting continuous growth year after year. This isn’t a product you need to buy more than one of. At 2024, it’s safe to assume that 90% of people who are willing to pay for a Netflix subscription have already bought one.
    The market was never infinite.

    • @CoffeePlease.
      @CoffeePlease. 13 дней назад +123

      This is a brilliant point.

    • @littlesparrow
      @littlesparrow 13 дней назад +263

      I agree. Unfortunately capitalism requires growth and its unsustainably is really noticeable here

    • @jonathancangelosi2439
      @jonathancangelosi2439 13 дней назад +202

      Yeah it’s baffling to me that companies don’t just self-sustain, they always have to keep growing. Growth isn’t unlimited unless you start pulling strings that shouldn’t be pulled.

    • @kadenoneill7227
      @kadenoneill7227 13 дней назад +75

      exactly, and yet they continue to act as if it is and that they can. capitalism is unrealistic

    • @alyzu4755
      @alyzu4755 12 дней назад +4

      We (humans) never learn. 😕

  • @Kasamira
    @Kasamira 11 дней назад +279

    They really didn’t get that, the benefit of a streaming service, was convenience. It takes me an extra 5 minutes to find a free version, where as Netflix takes me 25 seconds.
    But then they increased the fee…. again, added ads, cutting everything after the first season, refused password sharing.
    At this point there’s no convenience. No ease of use. Just annoyance.

    • @neostephenism
      @neostephenism 6 дней назад +8

      They don’t care about the benefits to the consumer, that was never their intention in the first place!

    • @SumitRana-life314
      @SumitRana-life314 2 дня назад +2

      They are just making finding the free version even more and more difficult instead.
      P.S:- So many of my go to websites that I use for finding stuff are nuked and then new methods are developed by people and I am always just so confused.

  • @Ashley-ku7is
    @Ashley-ku7is 12 дней назад +380

    I'm a media archivist. Not only will we lose finished media, but we'll also lose the raw footage as well. Converting from tape to digital is a super time consuming and expensive process. Therefore, it's reserved, as you said, for only what is deemed "important". A lot of our old tape machines are breaking down, and not many people still have the knowledge and expertise to fix them. Eventually, these machines will be unsalvageable and all this footage will be lost. Not to mention that tape itself disintegrates. So without tons of money and time, a lot of media, including like I said raw footage, will be lost forever.

    • @dani-888
      @dani-888 10 дней назад +17

      how horrifying!

    • @Dave102693
      @Dave102693 3 дня назад +1

      I how the tech hobbyists find a way

    • @rezza_lynsaii
      @rezza_lynsaii 2 дня назад +1

      I hope humanity finds a way to avert this or come up with a solution

  • @hollywooddarling
    @hollywooddarling 13 дней назад +3712

    downfall of streaming means i hope everyone loves how to pirate again. piracy in the 00s was how i became a cinephile and watched world cinema, which led to me actually paying to attend film festivals to watch these films and support these filmmakers in real life and eventually actually work in film. if you are curious and love something enough, you'll be willing to pay for it.

    • @risxra
      @risxra 13 дней назад +55

      Do you have any good search terms or sites you recommend? I used to pirate all the time in high school but I don’t know how to go about it nowadays, all my old sites are gone

    • @Iun4
      @Iun4 13 дней назад

      ​@@risxra i am a devout stremio user, it's basically a collection of every pirating site out there and you can find anything and everything there

    • @winifredeghrudje9427
      @winifredeghrudje9427 13 дней назад

      @@risxraSoap2day

    • @tamsmartin1
      @tamsmartin1 13 дней назад

      You can also access a lot of film festival content legitimately and for free through your local public library streaming services such as kanopy or beamafilm. Or at least you should be able to if you have a properly supported, funded library service 🤞

    • @near4316
      @near4316 13 дней назад +209

      @@risxra i'd love to tell you, but the last time someone posted a website of this kind, it went viral, got taken down and the creators got arrested 😬

  • @dangerfeild4Life
    @dangerfeild4Life 13 дней назад +2671

    My teenage job at Blockbuster largely consisted of getting yelled at by adults over their late fees

    • @jacobmccollum3095
      @jacobmccollum3095 12 дней назад +54

      My mom just stole the dvds she didn’t return on time. Her logic was “well it’s just cheaper to buy it” and they were like “yah Karen that’s the point if you don’t return it on time then you shouldn’t have check it out in the first place”
      Pay your late fees. Even if you are in sort of an extraordinary life predicament that prevents you from doing and being the person you actually are.

    • @mck_belle
      @mck_belle 12 дней назад

      I worked at Family Video until 2020 and same 🥲 once someone arrived 5 minutes after we closed and they screamed at me through the door to check their movie in so they didn’t have a late fee

    • @skullchimes
      @skullchimes 12 дней назад

      @@jacobmccollum3095 or just return it in time lmfao

    • @beautyonabarnbudget
      @beautyonabarnbudget 11 дней назад +7

      ​@@jacobmccollum3095what do u mean? She just kept them? So yeah she ended up paying for them. They would charge u 50$ a movie if not returned. If she didn't pay that it went on her credit. So she payed for it one way or another

    • @brokenglassshimmerlikestar3407
      @brokenglassshimmerlikestar3407 11 дней назад +11

      @@jacobmccollum3095 Hahahaha when I was in highschool I had this classmate who would just borrow books from the library and never give them back. Yes he stole. His thinking was the same, since he always forgot to return them and never wanted to pay late fees. What our school did was put his name up on the shame list, but he had no shame. Since it was only a school library, they couldn't actually force him to do anything and he got away with it. Can't believe I once had a crush on this poser asshole.

  • @friendlyneighborhoodloser2639
    @friendlyneighborhoodloser2639 13 дней назад +584

    about the fan fiction joke, my mom was an english professor for decades and actually studied fan fiction. there are a lot of programs attempting to archive fan fiction. it’s actually more common than people would think for it to be looked at through an academic lens. it’s incredibly interesting to learn about the academic side of it

    • @keirahazlewood4223
      @keirahazlewood4223 10 дней назад

      One of the best fanfiction sites is literally an archive - to quote, a "fan-run, nonprofit, noncommercial archive for transformative fanworks"

    • @mistress.villaina7591
      @mistress.villaina7591 10 дней назад +43

      fanfic was basically my intro into the internet

    • @essies4294
      @essies4294 10 дней назад

      Quite a lot of it used to be good. The stuff now is trash😂

    • @seaweed5269
      @seaweed5269 10 дней назад +83

      ​@@essies4294"the grass was always greener when I was younger and had lower standards"

    • @cambry4932
      @cambry4932 6 дней назад

      ​@@essies4294 it depends, honestly. there's this one site, archive of our own, where there's very high quality fanfiction. some are even full chapter book length, beautifully written. a lot of fandoms are going very strong on there to this day and are bustling with writers and readers. in some of the most popular fandoms, hundreds of works are made per day, most or all of which being very high quality! i don't doubt that things were good in the past, but they're certainly still good today.

  • @literallywtvr
    @literallywtvr 13 дней назад +135

    The anxiety over never owning anything is how I feel about social media, actually. It seems like these goliath apps will inevitably fall and then where will these years of memories go? That really spooks me.

    • @amelielucas4262
      @amelielucas4262 7 дней назад +6

      i've been thinking about that regarding snapchat! so many people use it as a camera roll but when it inevitably shuts down? all the photos/videos are gone!

    • @genevieveknoebel925
      @genevieveknoebel925 7 дней назад +4

      It’s happened many times before, just at a much smaller scale. And it’s terrifying, absolutely. I lost a blog I had for all of highschool when they went bust. All my pictures were gone. I didn’t have any hard copies. It’s awful.

    • @KristinaHuegelOnStage
      @KristinaHuegelOnStage 6 дней назад +1

      I'm really sad that I've lost a bunch of music I recorded and had uploaded to my MySpace music page. The computer I'd had it on went to computer heaven unexpectedly and I went looking for it only to realize my page was... gone. 😢

    • @kirstenjohnsen3603
      @kirstenjohnsen3603 4 дня назад +4

      Honestly stuff like that is why I print my pictures for albums now. I try to do it about twice a year because even if it wasn't an app going down, I could always have a broken hard drive or a fried laptop. I've found the price has stayed pretty stable too and there's usually packages for large orders or print sales around holidays

    • @mely1022
      @mely1022 4 дня назад +2

      I started thinking about this a couple of years ago, after vine closed I actually lost a bunch of short videos with friends . Since last year I started buying physical media and printing my pictures.
      Im buying my favorite movies, tv shows, cd musics and mangas/books. There may be a time where Spotify closes and there’s no way I can remember all of my music. That kinda terrifies me

  • @Chuuzus
    @Chuuzus 13 дней назад +3639

    tv killed radio and streaming killed tv. i wish we could go back to the golden era of tv shows being 6 seasons and 22 episodes long. nowadays all we get is tv shows being 3 seasons with 8 episodes and they take 2 years or more to produce

    • @sophiabreidfischer6242
      @sophiabreidfischer6242 13 дней назад +205

      Lmao looking at Bridgerton

    • @Thenewboidahlia
      @Thenewboidahlia 13 дней назад +114

      Sameeee 😭 X-men 97 JUST came out and they’re already doing the season finale, it hasn’t even been 10 episodes!

    • @Torn_Asunder
      @Torn_Asunder 13 дней назад +227

      i will take 6 one hour episodes of higher quality over 22 episode seasons with filler episodes any day

    • @bellablue5285
      @bellablue5285 13 дней назад +127

      And the 3 season series get canceled after one or two, so the cliffhanger hell is more or less the norm 🤬

    • @luiysia
      @luiysia 13 дней назад +46

      british tv viewing experience tbh LOL

  • @k1tkat-kate
    @k1tkat-kate 13 дней назад +1997

    This is why libraries are important!!!! Please support your local libraries! Donate, volunteer, vote, tell your representatives to invest in them.
    Not only are they spaces that hold onto copies of physical art that you can use for no upfront charge, they are ALSO FREE COMMUNAL SPACES which we are also losing to rampant capitalism.

    • @katc3234
      @katc3234 13 дней назад +70

      Fully agreed! American libraries in particular are getting a lot of flack right now by conservatives (up to and including literal bomb threats) so they could use your support. Besides, the more people using the services, the more funding your library can apply for from government sources which lets them do more for you WITHOUT adding to local tax burdens.
      Besides, you're already paying a few dollars a year in taxes for that space. PLEASE use it. We want you there, even if you're just hanging around using the free wi-fi, air conditioning/heating, and/or comfy chairs. You don't even have to read! Come play the board games or use the internet! Meet there with friends! Attend one of the free gatherings or classes there. There's so much.

    • @marymoocow1276
      @marymoocow1276 12 дней назад

      ​@@katc3234YESSS!! This is something I am always telling my siblings and friends. AND I have a job interview at one next week!!
      Libraries are literally so important❤

    • @Gr95dc
      @Gr95dc 12 дней назад +18

      loosing to rampant capitalism and to conservative extremism or one could say even fascism

    • @anikajoy5739
      @anikajoy5739 12 дней назад +8

      Yes sadly my local library has cut back its hours significantly in recent times and I had no idea how bad their funding situation is

    • @demonchildmina
      @demonchildmina 11 дней назад +17

      it made me physically shake to hear my classmate call them a waste of tax money. the entitlement of people who have never felt need is astounding fr.

  • @soditadepayaso
    @soditadepayaso 12 дней назад +40

    If buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing

  • @singingtheawesomenes
    @singingtheawesomenes 13 дней назад +119

    Hard driving your work is becoming more and more important for writers. My first ever freelance piece at i-D magazine is lost because Karlie Kloss decided to buy the site and make it a newsletter instead. Dead links are way too common

  • @glossyhobi3985
    @glossyhobi3985 13 дней назад +1322

    Netflix blocking password sharing was the the straw that broke the camel's back imo. Having the community feel of sharing passwords in a group of friends for netflix, hbo, apple tv etc. is so much better than forcing individualistic consumption of content. After all, streaming along to films/shows together and discussing it afterwards is half the fun!
    The worst part is - it worked. Netflix's profits increased after banning password sharing which makes me think other streaming companies will follow, i fear

    • @Claeleth
      @Claeleth 13 дней назад +36

      Does the ban actually function? My family shares an account and we all live in different places, but it's never been a problem. If it ever does I'm not getting my own account, they've lost too much of my trust by cancelling everything I like

    • @amonkey9
      @amonkey9 13 дней назад +62

      @@Claelethit does. I had access to Netflix until like just a month ago. You may still have access for a while, but it’s coming. While I never decided to get my own subscription, a lot of people did. Validating Netflix’s decision, which is deeply unfortunate.

    • @iwillregretthisuwu
      @iwillregretthisuwu 13 дней назад +9

      @@Claelethi think it depends, my parents ar divorced and my mom used my dads account but recently it got shut down and we have to like ask him for a code again or smth. idk the ins and outs or if weve gotten it back yet tho bc i dont really watch tv

    • @TheLolita05
      @TheLolita05 13 дней назад +21

      ​@Claeleth It's catching little by little since the beginning of the year 😢, last week I had no problem, today I was blocked from every devices I have 🎉

    • @kianna270
      @kianna270 12 дней назад +50

      I’m so mad that it worked…. Everyone talked so much shit about cancelling their subscriptions and it’s clear that was just smoke.

  • @liv97497
    @liv97497 13 дней назад +2327

    Isn't it wild that streaming platforms are now discovering that the best structure for entertainment is, in fact, the TV way? Staggering releases means people stay interested for longer (so many platforms now release episodes weekly or a few episodes at a time), selling commercials keeps your company financially viable and bundling many services together so we don't have to pay for individual -channels- platforms.

    • @dogwalk3
      @dogwalk3 13 дней назад +130

      on demand is still a lot nicer than time slots though.

    • @aeoligarlic4024
      @aeoligarlic4024 13 дней назад +63

      ​@@dogwalk3 i may be a minority here but i always prefer the opposite, i love scheduled programming and moments where i discovered a series by accident and getting hooked by it 😂

    • @Bustermachine
      @Bustermachine 13 дней назад +53

      @@dogwalk3 This does seem to be a matter of opinion. I used to be big into binging, but over the last couple of years it has fallen by the wayside for me. It's fine some of the time, don't get me wrong, just like it was fine to vedge and channel surf, some of the time.
      But some of the time, if something is really interesting to you, you just gotta make it into an event. It's a concept called 'phenomonology' that the sum of experiencing something extends beyond just the things itself.
      You get your snacks, you get your friends together, you all sit down to deliberate watch 'the big movie'. You talk with people about the 'big show' the next day at work. You anticipate the 'big game' long before it comes out.

    • @_kaleido
      @_kaleido 13 дней назад

      @@aeoligarlic4024 plus I think scheduled slots is better for fanbases as a whole, since you can make an event out of watching the same episode at the same time no matter where you are, and then discuss the episode while waiting for the next one. Lol I just saw that Bustermachine worded this a lot better than I did

    • @PilarNarvaezalvarez
      @PilarNarvaezalvarez 13 дней назад +18

      I don’t agree. I am tired of serialized content. Marvel movies. A series extended to a new season when it can perfectly ends before.

  • @ale52dez
    @ale52dez 13 дней назад +46

    The worst part is when they remove something from their own studio and it’s not accessible anywhere cos no physical copy was released 😞 if you do need to find physical media the library does help

  • @jessicamattes4208
    @jessicamattes4208 13 дней назад +34

    I think another underlying perpetuator of the streaming fatigue is the recent WGA/SAG-AFTRA strike. Prices continue to rise on the consumer level, but we know that money is not going to the writers and actors, even though none of the media on these streaming services would exist without the writers and actors behind it. I know that when Netflix asks me for another $3 every month, that extra money is not going to the people who actually put in the most work and creative energy to be able to create the shows and movies I'm paying to watch. I have zero idea where that money is going, and that's so incredibly frustrating as a consumer.

    • @DisabledDoll
      @DisabledDoll 11 дней назад

      Great point!!

    • @Dave102693
      @Dave102693 3 дня назад

      That money is going to c-suite, and their financial backers.

  • @moonlight.corpse
    @moonlight.corpse 13 дней назад +1801

    one thing is always certain: mina slays every single outfit in every single video

  • @auroraspear1878
    @auroraspear1878 13 дней назад +2207

    Honestly I never watch real tv anymore, like not even Netflix or Hulu or anything, I’m almost exclusively on RUclips. It’s just easier 🤷‍♀️

    • @gleann_cuilinn
      @gleann_cuilinn 13 дней назад +183

      Same, if I didn't have a partner with streaming subscriptions I would just not watch TV or movies except at friends' places. I've gotten back into reading books like I used to, and I love it.

    • @EatinPaste
      @EatinPaste 13 дней назад +91

      It's easier, and better, with an adblocker.

    • @MsKatze
      @MsKatze 13 дней назад +29

      ​@gleann_cuilinn same! I only ever watch TV with my husband on Friday night for pizza night, the rest of the week I read.

    • @violondon8776
      @violondon8776 13 дней назад +18

      Same! I only watch on streaming if my friend has it and we watch together or something. I love RUclips lol Also, like Mina mentioned, I feel like the content Netflix is so cringe so like no thanks! lol

    • @chayarivkaevans3399
      @chayarivkaevans3399 13 дней назад +54

      same, i'm an out of sight-out of mind person so netflix taking 2 years between seasons might as well mean the show is cancelled

  • @kaitibeeps5887
    @kaitibeeps5887 13 дней назад +93

    MINA PLEASE CREATE AN ARCHIVE OF YOUR WORK AND BACK IT UP 😱😱😱

    • @lorettavrodriguez4335
      @lorettavrodriguez4335 12 дней назад +4

      yes girl SAVE YOUR VIDEOS😭😭 LOL

    • @KevinSterns
      @KevinSterns 3 дня назад

      My niece had her social media deleted for absurd reasons. She instantly lost 10k followers, hours and hours of videos. She was devastated. You can NOT trust these evil corporations.

  • @kywhitehead_
    @kywhitehead_ 13 дней назад +28

    Justice for every single one/two season show I loved on Netflix, that was inevitably canceled so they could allocate more funding to making yet another season of Stranger Things

  • @lima170
    @lima170 13 дней назад +527

    mina!!! please get external storage 😭 as a video artist, you saying u don't have copies of your videos had me spiraling

    • @katrinhasnolife
      @katrinhasnolife 11 дней назад +54

      For real. And keep a back up copy at your parents or something. I knew a creator who lost all their hard drives in a house fire.

    • @NICMACYO
      @NICMACYO 6 дней назад +1

      What sort of storage will stand the test of time though?

  • @GeorgeGlass298
    @GeorgeGlass298 13 дней назад +983

    Greed has completely ruined streaming. Everybody and their brother and their cousin has a streaming service that's not worth the money. And what pisses me off is I have like seven streaming services and every time I'm looking for a specific movie it's not on any of them so I started buying DVDs of the movies I can't find on streaming services off eBay for a few dollars. I've grown quite a collection because nothing's on any of the streaming services except for their stupid really really horrifically crappy originals. I honest to God never thought I would buy another DVD player and take up space in my house with DVDs but here we are. Pirate Bay here I come.

    • @beyondthebluu
      @beyondthebluu 13 дней назад

      You should check out your local public library! They probably have a ton of DVDs both of movies and tv shows

    • @julianfang3483
      @julianfang3483 13 дней назад +46

      Greed always ruins everything.

    • @glitteriable
      @glitteriable 13 дней назад +11

      Can I ask, respectfully, why you have so many services? And what they are? I know prices are staggered, depending on the service, but it seems like you could be spending anywhere from $50 to $90 dollars a month. I don't know many people who have more than three services, which is why I'm asking you. I use two, not counting Spotify, and I am already overwhelmed by how much is out there! Do you just really enjoy film?

    • @LGrian
      @LGrian 13 дней назад +10

      @@julianfang3483it’s almost like the system in which we operate rewards greed

    • @GeorgeGlass298
      @GeorgeGlass298 13 дней назад

      @@glitteriable I get Max, peacock and Apple TV for free. Peacock and Max are a deal I worked out with my cable provider years ago. They gave me them free for life to keep me as a customer. The Apple TV came free with my new TV. I pay for Hulu & Netflix. Disney as an add on to my Hulu for an extra $2 a month. I also have Amazon prime at a discounted rate of $6.99 a month and I have free Paramount through something else that I signed up for and gave me a free 6-month trial. And to top all of that off I pay for RUclips premium. It's $25 a month for me and all of my kids including my adult kids. My adult kids also use all of my streaming services at their houses except for Netflix because they suck. We all watch RUclips more than anything else. Oh and I also get free basic cable with my internet.

  • @heyheatherlynn
    @heyheatherlynn 12 дней назад +50

    When the first couple of streaming services started popping up & pulling their content from Netflix, my friend and I predicted that eventually all the networks would have their own streaming site. But eventually people would get annoyed with paying for multiple separate platforms. So some company will come along and strike a deal with most streaming companies to bundle them together and bam we basically have cable again accept it's through the internet.

  • @ladydiamond6611
    @ladydiamond6611 13 дней назад +30

    Its interesting what you said about people preferring low budget. I like watching youtube videos because they're always filmed in someone's house, making me more connected to the creator and making it more relatable and comforting to watch, even with the good quality lighting and camera. It would feel weird if they suddenly moved to a studio so I kind of get it.

  • @suno8911
    @suno8911 13 дней назад +883

    The paradox of the digital age: everything we create is in a cloud forever but also “nowhere” forever. I remembered legendary photos we took 20 years ago that got lost when a device broke or whatever, and all we can do about it now is reminisce about the experience and the cool photo that once marked it. 😢

    • @risxra
      @risxra 13 дней назад +123

      Yes!!! People say “the internet is forever”, but with the way it’s been changing, so much of the older internet has been completely lost to time

    • @aspx4581
      @aspx4581 13 дней назад

      here's something that demystifies it: there is no "cloud" storage where everything just floats about in some internet ether, ready to be pulled from with a magic spell. cloud storage literally just means "storage on someone else's computer," and in the case for most of us, that someone is a corporation who will pull the plug as soon as that computer stops spitting out money :/

    • @thewanderingstarseed
      @thewanderingstarseed 12 дней назад +18

      Yes!!! My kids use their holiday money on digital items. I’m always telling them that when they grow up, they won’t be able to hold onto any of their memories physically. It’s sad.

    • @Gr95dc
      @Gr95dc 12 дней назад +8

      @@thewanderingstarseed it is sad, but tbh for me is also a good way to reduce waste, you purchase something you want and you won't need to have to throw it away when you don't want it anymore. Of course that only works for a limited amount of categories

    • @cainyourkids
      @cainyourkids 12 дней назад

      Honestly, they can just have their photos printed out, or have it uploaded into file lockers like GDrive or Dropbox - absolutely NOTHING is holding back people from printing photos out.

  • @ChainReactionsProductions
    @ChainReactionsProductions 13 дней назад +795

    Streaming is like this close to going full circle and just becoming cable

    • @aeoligarlic4024
      @aeoligarlic4024 13 дней назад +45

      I miss the golden era of cable. So many entertaining shows in scheduled programming. Really prevents me from binging

    • @Bloomkyaaa
      @Bloomkyaaa 11 дней назад +6

      Return to cable, yessss! We must go back our old ways.

    • @thisisAJsYT
      @thisisAJsYT 7 дней назад

      @@Bloomkyaaa as a cable technician, you don’t miss cable. trust 😭

  • @Mario-tp4gb
    @Mario-tp4gb 13 дней назад +26

    I feel the same way about video essays on RUclips. Some of them are brilliant and very contemporary, but will be lost in a matter of decades. I’m planning to download and save a sample of them in my digital archive, to preserve present content for the future, when video formats and language have changed drastically.

  • @oliviab4079
    @oliviab4079 12 дней назад +12

    What grinds my gears is that the reluctance to release streaming original shows/movies on DVD is becoming a more common occurence and just the slow withdrawal of physical media from most retailers. It's painful to find an incredible peice of work that engages you but can only be accessed through a platform.

  • @ArtichokeHunter
    @ArtichokeHunter 13 дней назад +628

    remember when the literal point of Hulu was to stream TV shows free online (with ads)

    • @jennig3057
      @jennig3057 13 дней назад +112

      Netflix for movies and hulu for shows!! I had completely forgotten this 😅

    • @ArtichokeHunter
      @ArtichokeHunter 13 дней назад

      @@jennig3057 i don't think netflix was ever free because they had to mail dvds... maybe I missed something when it went to streaming but I thought the point of Hulu originally to rival Netflix was that it was ad-supported rather than a paid subscription

    • @bina__bunny1098
      @bina__bunny1098 13 дней назад +78

      Netflix also used to encourage password sharing

    • @bastetowl3258
      @bastetowl3258 13 дней назад +55

      it’s crazy how steamers are making ppl pay for a subscription even with ads. sure you get a reduced amount of ads but there are still ads wtf. at least youtube is free with ads

    • @sarahsweetblood
      @sarahsweetblood 13 дней назад +40

      used to be able to watch Crunchyroll free with ads too

  • @oliviapilson
    @oliviapilson 13 дней назад +517

    It’s not JUST STREAMING TOO it baffles me how many apps require a subscription of $6-9+/month. Strava? That’ll be $12/month. Spotify? $6/10/month. Duolingo? $6/month Runna? $12/month? Like guys… COME ON. I miss the days of one time purchase (even though I was in elementary school when that was a thing)

    • @wildmarjoramdieselpunk6396
      @wildmarjoramdieselpunk6396 13 дней назад +66

      I pay for Prime and it still has ads. :/

    • @bleuumscarlett7977
      @bleuumscarlett7977 13 дней назад +48

      And it really adds up when you're from outside the US and the exchange rate is bad 🙈 although it's also a really good motivator not to subscribe to things lol

    • @ritzee13
      @ritzee13 13 дней назад +64

      Spotify is the one that pisses me off the most, I have a student subscription but now they have a 3 year max on students which is ridiculous because I'm still a student.

    • @ourladyofsorrowsxx
      @ourladyofsorrowsxx 13 дней назад +41

      @@wildmarjoramdieselpunk6396THIS is the most disgusting thing they did with prime, like what the actual fuck is wrong with them and why can they get away with it. I PAY SO MUCH, and now have to watch a shit ton of ads

    • @wildmarjoramdieselpunk6396
      @wildmarjoramdieselpunk6396 12 дней назад +15

      @@ritzee13 Not four years at least? How about post grads too? Geesh.

  • @esbenm6544
    @esbenm6544 3 дня назад +8

    Since Netflix keeps cancelling shows after the 2nd season despite solid viewership because some algorithm told them the first two seasons gets the most engagement, I feel no responsibility to support them in any way. If they consider their shows disposable junk with no re-watch value, I will treat them as such.

  • @jessicamoore8903
    @jessicamoore8903 12 дней назад +8

    Many silent films pre-1927 don't exist anymore because celluloid was so flammable and films were considered throwaway. So much was lost. It hurts my soul that 30 years of the internet will have the same fate.

  • @madalenapires21
    @madalenapires21 13 дней назад +583

    The editing of episodes of shows without warning the audience or giving them the option to see an earlier available version is what really scares me. There's a lot of questions on censoring and propaganda that must be discussed. That is why I support pirating, we need to have a way to access things that companies have removed.

    • @eponymouscharacter
      @eponymouscharacter 13 дней назад +25

      Agree. Or things like the removal of the D&D episode of Community where Chang dressed up as a “dark elf” because they were worried people would see it as blackface (which it was not). It was a genuinely touching episode and brilliantly crafted and it sucks that they can pull it and make it seem like it never existed.

    • @baoyenaj5186
      @baoyenaj5186 13 дней назад +16

      Even shows like Friends, they cut down some jokes so it runs for a slightly shorter time. It's frustrating when you're waiting for a joke that they've cut out. I own the dvds

    • @willrmmerhunter
      @willrmmerhunter 13 дней назад +4

      Thats such a weird take...you could have edited VHS and DVDs and it was not written anywhere they were. A lot of early short films had multiple versions and very rarely do you have all of them preserved. "Lost media" Is not new and piracy isnt a magical tool that allows to find everything. Especially in an era where pirate sites copy each other. If one has a brokem version, most of the time, all of them have tje broken version.

    • @madalenapires21
      @madalenapires21 13 дней назад

      @@willrmmerhunter I'm not saying piracy is a solution, it is a necessary tool in an age where we are seeing lack of transparecy and censorship from the companies that own phisical media. Not only that, but there are movies and shows like Rise of the Pink Ladies or Willow, for example, that you simply can't find outside piracy websites because they were removed from their platforms. Phisical medial also had a lot of issues, yes, but once you owned something, it didn't go away nor was it changed without your knowledge. I'm not saying studios didn't change stuff in future editions of VHS or DVD, I'm saying tha once you owned one, that one could not be changed.

    • @marymoocow1276
      @marymoocow1276 12 дней назад +1

      Also though libraries👍👍 or a mix of both.

  • @Yyylvc
    @Yyylvc 13 дней назад +514

    Talking about lost media: this is why libraries are so vital. Through the legal deposit system, they *have* to preserve and archive everything, regardless of quality. I've been to the archives of the French National Library and it has kilometers of shitty VHS preserved, and mountains of video games, including educational ones no one wanted to keep. A famous japanese composer worked on an obscure educational game in the 90s and they were the only one to still have a copy.

    • @s-wo8781
      @s-wo8781 13 дней назад +1

      Can you tell me which composer this is?

    • @Yyylvc
      @Yyylvc 13 дней назад +10

      @@s-wo8781 it was Hajime Tachibana iirc!

    • @Lily-ni5po
      @Lily-ni5po 9 дней назад +9

      I mean as a librarian who has studied some archive (those are two different area), no we do not. Librarians spend a lot of time throwing away things that are unpopular. It takes a lot of my work day, just looking for things to throw in the garbage to make space for new material that keeps on coming. Some university libraries might have the budget to create new building just to store materials that have some historical importance, but they also throw away a lot. And archives are often understaffed and have a lot of unprocessed material. They don't necessarily keep everything that people want to donate because of lack of space and staff. And some important historical documents from private sources like companies can get lost because creating an archive cost money. If they go bust, it is uncertain if any government will take the material and invest in preserving it.

    • @s-wo8781
      @s-wo8781 9 дней назад +3

      @@Lily-ni5po Is there a way to donate it to the public instead of throwing them away?

    • @Yyylvc
      @Yyylvc 9 дней назад +5

      (Sorry if my comment sounded like I was saying ALL libraries must keep books/media through the legal deposit system - only a few per country do, like the Library of Congress or the French National Library. It's still a librarian job although archivists work there too.)
      Edit: for example my colleague's job is to catalog every harlequin book ever printed in our country. We do have an understaff problem but we do keep the books printed by these companies. And another colleague of mine is an archivist in a big tech company and keeps every meeting records etc... I'm not saying we have managed to preserve everything (Robespierre's letter to Danton is in private hands for example) but many films and tv shows and books, awful or not, are preserved thanks to this system.

  • @Andressadantas1208
    @Andressadantas1208 12 дней назад +15

    Also Netflix keep cancelling their shows after one or two seasons, it’s so annoying. Thats what made me quit on them.

  • @erg7051
    @erg7051 11 дней назад +12

    That’s why my husband has been buying all his all time favourite movies and TV shows on DVD. He doesn’t want to risk them being at the mercy of these platforms to decide when or if they will be available anymore. Not to mention that they can sometimes edit the original because someone suddenly decided that certain scene is no longer “appropriate” for whatever reason 🙄

  • @sophiabreidfischer6242
    @sophiabreidfischer6242 13 дней назад +538

    Id almost rather just buy DVDs again--pay once have it forever. I dont like paying minth after month when i only watch specific titles.

    • @c_harles.m_ontgomery_punk
      @c_harles.m_ontgomery_punk 13 дней назад +62

      Personally the route I'm taking, especially with DVDs being cheap in antique stores and eBay now

    • @caranook
      @caranook 13 дней назад

      Honestly you should go for it. Second hand DVDs are practically worthless these days, you can find them for one euro a piece or even less in a lot of shops. It’s what I’ve been doing, because I had to stop using my friend’s Netflix account when Netflix doubled down on account sharing.

    • @kryptofreak74
      @kryptofreak74 13 дней назад +27

      Until they incorporate software that makes the DVD stop working after a few years... or only work on ONE DVD player... or...

    • @kaja4105
      @kaja4105 13 дней назад +38

      @@kryptofreak74 My family actually started collecting DVDs right from the start (so late 1990s/early 2000s), well guess what! The older ones don't work anymore. And we took excellent care of them, so no scratches or anything. They are simply too old to be played on modern DVD players/external DVD drives.... (And it was annoying enough that most computers/laptops don't even come with internal DVD drives anymore). Guess I can just dump about 50 DVDs right into the trash :( so sadly you're spot on...

    • @talunae.8924
      @talunae.8924 13 дней назад

      ​@@kaja4105Considering the size of your collection, wouldn't it be worth it to buy an older model of DVD player if you watch a lot of old DVDs, instead of getting rid of them? Just curious! :)

  • @daniellepointer8495
    @daniellepointer8495 13 дней назад +267

    20:55 This baffled me the most. Why on earth would you turn on something new as "background noise"? When I'm gonna watch a new show or movie, I treat it how I would if I was in a theater: have a snack but otherwise give it my undivided attention. You save the "background noise" viewing for shows and movies that you've seen a bajillion times.

    • @yumi9626
      @yumi9626 13 дней назад +54

      Yeah I can’t believe studio execs are listening to STREAMERS of all people to tell them how to direct their films

    • @GrungeGalactica
      @GrungeGalactica 11 дней назад +18

      Yes the idea of two screens at once stresses me out! Maybe it’s cause new films and series are so samey and barely entertaining anymore? Remakes and live action versions of the same stories, plot lines and cliché is dull af.

    • @somethingsomeone4359
      @somethingsomeone4359 10 дней назад +11

      Yeah, why would I click on something I’m that disinterested in? If I don’t feel it’s important enough to pause when/if I get distracted, then why would I watch it at all?

    • @emilyb.8219
      @emilyb.8219 7 дней назад +5

      some people just constantly need something on their TV whether they're paying attention or not, I've never understood it

  • @ProstoJean
    @ProstoJean 12 дней назад +13

    We also have to accept that things will go into the abyss of the oblivion eventually. Nothing is preserved 'forever', let alone everything that humanity produces

  • @alexmcginness8859
    @alexmcginness8859 11 дней назад +9

    Literally I refuse to pay for Netflix after they kicked me off my Dad’s account. The way they handled that role out makes me not want to support them at all.

  • @cbitter7159
    @cbitter7159 13 дней назад +223

    I am a DVD girl! No commercials! watch as many times as you want! let your friends borrow it!

    • @wildmarjoramdieselpunk6396
      @wildmarjoramdieselpunk6396 13 дней назад +48

      Plus commentary and extras!

    • @literallywhy6162
      @literallywhy6162 9 дней назад +16

      ⁠I miss the days when every movie came with bloopers and extras, lots of kids movies would have games!

    • @CCela1608
      @CCela1608 День назад

      THIS!!! I don't pay for a single streaming service. If it's not on a free app like Tubi or Peacock, then I wait until it is OR look for a copy for $3 at goodwill.

  • @DanielaMartinez-wt6ir
    @DanielaMartinez-wt6ir 13 дней назад +172

    I was radicalized the day I found out that Ever After (1998) was nowhere to be found on the internet but we had the DVD...that disk is a family heirloom now

    • @MewMewSun
      @MewMewSun 8 дней назад +5

      That movie is amazing! I have the DVD as well!

    • @alicepod
      @alicepod 6 дней назад

      Found it in 3 secs on a torrent website 🙈

    • @mglarson5936
      @mglarson5936 6 дней назад +1

      I also have the dvd and this is one of my favorite movies. I am NEVER GETTING RID OF IT

    • @puppppppies
      @puppppppies 6 дней назад

      I'm gonna see if it's on MyFlixer

    • @aronhelios1734
      @aronhelios1734 19 часов назад

      Pretty sure u can find it through torrents

  • @elizabethc3941
    @elizabethc3941 8 дней назад +2

    As an Archivist and Librarian who's ended up specializing in media, your part on owning nothing and loosing so much content is what I preach every day! Thank you for elevating this problem on your platform, it's really scary how so many people don't realize we've created a dark age as internet and digital born content is not being systematically saved like past physical media.

  • @cranewalker1633
    @cranewalker1633 13 дней назад +7

    goddd there's so many pieces to this conversation...on the DVD vs streaming end an important bit that's completely and utterly lost w streaming is bonus content!! blooper reels, director's commentary, behind-the-scenes, games even!! the ANIMATED barbie movies had blooper reels for christ's sake lmao. obv not all DVDs had bonus content but i think it's important to point out that in many cases you were getting more than just the movie. there's no place for that in streaming tho. and on the subject of censorship & compensation for streams--i think platforms like nebula are really great for video essayists but it IS another subscription. wonderful video like always!!

  • @killjoy8372
    @killjoy8372 13 дней назад +282

    For years me and my dad were the weirdos holding onto our collection of dvds and constantly getting told to just get rid of them, its so vindicating to have people now talking about how nice dvds are compared to streaming!

    • @KrisRN23935
      @KrisRN23935 11 дней назад +4

      My mother was right be buy off those seasons of TV shows on DVD

    • @439801RS
      @439801RS 10 дней назад

      Eh everything's fleeting anyways
      What will you do when you dvd player break and no new ones are being made?
      Even if there would be an untouchable storing method, humans keep repeating history regardless of how well or poorly its been recorded

  • @laraalvarezzz2
    @laraalvarezzz2 13 дней назад +597

    it's overwhelming as a poor person living in a 3rd world country the amount of streamings and content I cannot access because it costs an amount I cant spare. either this or my favorite cartoons and movies are simply not available or quiquly put out of the streaming service (I'm looking at toy hbo max)
    so yeah, basically my only resource is piracy when the one thing I like to watch is not available in any viable way.

    • @tamal10000
      @tamal10000 13 дней назад +91

      exactly this, i've resorted to use some pirate streaming platforms, it's unbelievable how pirates do a better job consolidating all the content on one single streaming service, and then there's companies who want their own separate platforms out of greed

    • @KitKat-fv3xh
      @KitKat-fv3xh 13 дней назад +61

      Not to mention that many of those streaming services aren’t even available in the global south, which means either shelling out for both VPN *and* the streaming service, or resorting to the high seas. Soz Starz, I can’t watch your pirate show (Black Sails) legally unless you make it available beyond the US!!

    • @Nadia1989
      @Nadia1989 13 дней назад

      That's me. I pay Disney+ and Star+ through Mercado Libre, which comes with free shipping and discount coupons for certain categories.

    • @musicismyweapon1000
      @musicismyweapon1000 13 дней назад +1

      I’ve always wondered what websites y’all use?

    • @claubbenitez
      @claubbenitez 13 дней назад

      @@musicismyweapon1000I used to go to cuevana, but I’m pretty sure every version of that website has now shut down bc the fbi hunted down the people that owned it 🥲

  • @melindaroos968
    @melindaroos968 12 дней назад +4

    I feel the fatigue so much. I open Netflix, want to watch a specific movie, it's not there anymore, start scrolling and end up not watching anything because it's just too much.
    I still have dvds of my favourite movies so I can watch them at any time I want and I don't get overwhelmed by the amount of dvds I have.

  • @worlds-worst-princess1782
    @worlds-worst-princess1782 13 дней назад +12

    Hi Mina! Have you ever looked into the RUclipsr merch industry and its ecological footprint? I think this would make an excellent video topic and not many people have researched it in depth yet.

  • @mytruecrimelibrary
    @mytruecrimelibrary 13 дней назад +150

    The Netflix menu has way too many categories and the same content shows up in different categories. It takes forever to find something to watch and what you end up with is usually pretty terrible.

    • @catmenot7143
      @catmenot7143 12 дней назад +3

      That’s a UX problem.

    • @GrungeGalactica
      @GrungeGalactica 11 дней назад +1

      The auto play when you’re flicking through is jarring as hell too! It’s all bargain bin B movies anyways, probably better off buying the physical copy of a classic.

  • @konodanshi
    @konodanshi 13 дней назад +440

    For someone who functions entirely the "high seas" way when it comes to movies and series, it feels impossible to imagine how anyone lives like this.
    Paying 50, 60, 100 bucks a month for all your streaming services? For movies you might not even own anymore next month if it's taken off? I'm freaked out whenever I remember a majority of people somehow put up with it.

    • @heatherhaven1268
      @heatherhaven1268 13 дней назад +16

      High seas hahahaha

    • @phi4491
      @phi4491 13 дней назад +18

      Yo ho yo ho~~🎶….. you know the rest 😉

    • @denaa6140
      @denaa6140 13 дней назад +3

      For reals. At least where I am Netflix costs about 1.5 dollars for a basic plan. Everything else is for the seas.

    • @oliviaisnicole1835
      @oliviaisnicole1835 13 дней назад +10

      I guess it comes down to having to find sites that haven’t shut down and navigating different sites to find exactly what you are looking for. I know in my case I much rather pay since the “stress” of searching can be overwhelming for my already dwindling health crisis. If anyone has any “sites” they could recommend that would be great as well.

    • @inkasaraswati7625
      @inkasaraswati7625 13 дней назад +4

      Yeah if anyone can recommend any safe sites for movies, that'd be great. I used to sail lol, while I'd like to pay and support these days, I'm not above "saving" things that are just not available elsewhere. I just don't know where to go.

  • @camillenovak8359
    @camillenovak8359 13 дней назад +8

    the part on not being 'second screen enough' at 21:07 is so interesting because while that would be pretty unfortunate to get as a show note, I feel like that's the type of content that I watch on youtube the most. I like having it while I'm eating, doing chores, studying, or smth else, bc it feels like easily digestible content. To be honest, although I've watched all your videos for example I'd be hard pressed to remember anything from a couple videos back because usually none of the content is very relevant to me and I don't think I retain much, but I just enjoy hearing you talk about stuff you've researched in a well-organized fashion. I think this is also why longer videos are popular, as someone who watches and really enjoys Jenny Nicholson's evermore video despite not having been and not ever planning to go to that park. Once I've started a long video, I can just let it play on and it becomes kind of like a 'comfort video' in a sense that sitcoms/familiar shows are just nice as background noise, so that's probably also in part why those videos can continuously do well. Reminds me of how streaming services who wanted to be 'prestige television' are now really wishing they had sitcoms like Friends or the Big Bang Theory.

  • @duckiejane6881
    @duckiejane6881 10 дней назад +2

    i like to do my hair and makeup while watching your videos they are the perfect length and also you talk so clearly i don’t need to be watching your lips or subtitles to understand, and added bonus your style is amazing so i get lil inspirations before i start
    (edit)
    2 minutes left in the video and im abt to do my lipstick and blush yall when i say this I MEAN IT PERFECT LENGTH FOR MORNING GET READY

  • @GHcity
    @GHcity 13 дней назад +428

    streaming was the best when watching online for free in a grey area of legal was the only form of streaming and everything was available on youtube

    • @carrained
      @carrained 13 дней назад +6

      Sooo freaking true 🙌🏻 Those were the days!

    • @bastetowl3258
      @bastetowl3258 12 дней назад

      there are still sites you can find hosting movies and tv shows for free. they've made it harder than it used to be to find these sites though

    • @mcfrisko834
      @mcfrisko834 11 дней назад +1

      Would you say this was back in like 2015?

    • @Window4503
      @Window4503 8 дней назад

      @@mcfrisko834More like the early 10s. My high school laptop went through the wringer but those days were so formative for me media-wise.

    • @Dave102693
      @Dave102693 3 дня назад

      That’s my childhood

  • @OhDeerGirl
    @OhDeerGirl 13 дней назад +141

    The point about that we continuously pay but don't own anything really hit me. Also the fact that the media of my youth is extremely perishable. Sometimes it feels like, at the same time, we live in an overabundance of content and the wasteland of creativity, because the pressure to profit is so enormous.
    Great video, Mina.

    • @bastetowl3258
      @bastetowl3258 12 дней назад +5

      def. that's why we get so many crappy remakes, prequels and sequels every year

    • @sophie1937
      @sophie1937 11 дней назад +8

      It's like we're stranded in the middle of the ocean, plenty of water, but nothing to drink.

  • @emmarose2385
    @emmarose2385 12 дней назад +4

    That’s what stresses me out about streaming, there are so many movies that have essentially ceased to exist if a digital version is not available. People are saying get DVDs from the library, I grew up gettting DVDs from the library and let me tell you 75% of them were scratched, so the likelihood of actually getting through the entire thing is slim. I wish someone could work on archiving old movies…that’s a streaming service I would pay for nothing new all movies 20+ years old

  • @rileydefeo532
    @rileydefeo532 11 дней назад +3

    there's a dvd rental place near my apartment and honestly it's so fun getting to browse the shelves and see what title sticks out before you can even think of what you want, not to mention how nice it is to be able to ask staff for recommendations when you cant decide what you want to watch

    • @punkithecat
      @punkithecat 5 дней назад

      Exactly, I miss the experience of going to Blockbuster when i was a kid, it was really fun picking movies that way. I just remembered how we would plan it, we would take 2 or 3 movies and decide which was for friday night, Saturday and sunday, the best ones were always Friday nights with snacks

  • @missvioletnightchild2515
    @missvioletnightchild2515 13 дней назад +241

    The problem with streaming is also the huge number of shows getting produced by the streamers and then cancelled for no reason - one ludicrous example being Our Flag Means Death, which had incredible viewing figures, very passionate fans, and was basically given very little budget for its second season, and then cancelled despite once again being at the top of their series viewing figures. I'm also pissed off at the loss of I'm Not OK With This, Lockwood and Co, Shadow and Bone, Cloak and Dagger, and probably more that I'm forgetting. Here in the UK it's also a bit of a lottery as to what is going to be on which platform, for instance The Great seasons 1 and 2 are on one platform but season 3 is on another, and I still haven't found how to watch season 9 of Brooklyn 99!
    Anyway, yes, streaming fatigue is definitely upon us and it sucks.

    • @icedgarlic
      @icedgarlic 13 дней назад +15

      YES I remember when HBO max canceled the Batgirl show despite production being almost done already. It's unfair to the fans cast and crew that they just cancel these shows like that

    • @im_loveless
      @im_loveless 13 дней назад +8

      you can't watch season 9 of Brooklyn 99 because it doesn't exist

    • @baby.yogurt
      @baby.yogurt 12 дней назад +8

      I honestly will never forget the disappointment of The OA being cancelled. also Mindhunter and The Society. but it really is demoralizing when you realize how little it matters how passionate the fans of something are because an entirely profit driven corporation is in control of the thing you love/have gotten invested in, and of the creators that worked on it

    • @penelopesparrow
      @penelopesparrow 11 дней назад +4

      Netflix cancelled Dark Crystal; Age of Resistance 5 years ago, after 1 season, cliffhanger ending........and the fanbase is STILL clamouring for the 2nd season to be made. 😠

    • @kseniav586
      @kseniav586 11 дней назад

      So true. I would add High Fidelity to the list, such a good show for music lovers

  • @emuanon34
    @emuanon34 13 дней назад +114

    I would like to thank my sister’s friend for showing 11-year-old me certain amazing websites that saved me from spending money on streaming.

    • @Marinaaduran
      @Marinaaduran 11 дней назад +3

      Share them hello

    • @sorrybutimalibra5860
      @sorrybutimalibra5860 10 дней назад

      ​@Marinaaduran reddit has good forums for it, which is important because you newd to get the safe sites not the dangerous copy cats, and they are often shut down so you need to know what new addresses theyve moves the sites to. So join the communities to stay updated and knowledgeable

    • @moustik31
      @moustik31 9 дней назад +6

      These streaming companies are forgetting, that A LOT of us spent our formative years watching content online for free. We havent lost the skills and the offer is still available.

  • @liloa03
    @liloa03 12 дней назад +3

    Oh Mina!!! You need to keep all your original work, not just the final edit! You can’t ever loose this amazing body of work

  • @mistytherainwing5028
    @mistytherainwing5028 7 дней назад +3

    One of the saddest things about Netflix in particular is how they would not renew shows for more seasons if it wouldn’t bring any more subscriptions, which was the case even if these shows had massive fan bases. I stand in solidarity with my fellow Anne with an E fans 😔🤚

  • @MissMisnomer_
    @MissMisnomer_ 13 дней назад +128

    All this talk of media archiving and modern censorship reminds me of my own personal vendetta against Disney: their treatment of the Muppets Christmas Carol. In the original release, there is a sad song in the middle that really helps to humanize Ebenezer Scrooge. It's honestly one of the most poignant points of the film. It made it into theatres and on the VHS. But then when Disney bought the rights, their decided it was too "sad" for children, and suddenly that scene was cut out entirely. Gone. It wasn't on the DVDs and it sure as heck wasn't on Disney+. The first time I tried to stream it (we lent out our VHS and we never got it back [still salty about that] ), I was so confused when the movie skipped right over such an integral piece of the plot. I will never not be mad at the executives.

    • @Inkspells
      @Inkspells 12 дней назад

      The love is gone❤

    • @bastetowl3258
      @bastetowl3258 12 дней назад +7

      wow i wonder if you can still find it at the library. i remember i was able to watch that movie because i took out a vhs from the library

    • @keirahazlewood4223
      @keirahazlewood4223 10 дней назад +1

      I'm sorry, what? We watched the Muppets Christmas Carol every winter from DVD, I've never checked the streamed version. Did they really cut a whole song?

    • @KateSparkes
      @KateSparkes 9 дней назад

      @@keirahazlewood4223They did for most DVD releases, but if you go to “extras” on the Disney+ version you’ll see “The Muppet Christmas Carol (Full Length Version)”. That one includes the song, but you have to go digging for it.

    • @MissMisnomer_
      @MissMisnomer_ 8 дней назад

      @@keirahazlewood4223 Yep. It's not in the primary version stored on +. But if you dig on the "bonus features", they've finally uploaded the entire original release. But the fact that the primary, edited version is the one most people will see is a crime

  • @ArtichokeHunter
    @ArtichokeHunter 13 дней назад +144

    Growing up in the '90s without cable nor a need for it, I understand that everyone needs to get paid, but TV has been free for so much of my life that it feels very strange to me that people I know actually pay for streaming services. It's very much the Watcher thing; RUclips has been free for so long that it doesn't feel good to be asked to pay for it now, or lose what you're used to. But that's very much true of every streaming service, if you're old enough to remember when Hulu was free, when everything was released on DVDs you could just get from the library, when most mainstream TV was just on the free channels everyone had.

    • @LMason-qd7sq
      @LMason-qd7sq 13 дней назад +8

      DVDs are still at libraries at least

    • @ArtichokeHunter
      @ArtichokeHunter 13 дней назад

      @@LMason-qd7sq yes but very few tv shows are released on DVD now

    • @aeoligarlic4024
      @aeoligarlic4024 13 дней назад +11

      ​@@LMason-qd7sq you guys have fancy libraries over there, the ones around me only consist of old outdated books 😭

    • @wildmarjoramdieselpunk6396
      @wildmarjoramdieselpunk6396 13 дней назад +2

      @@aeoligarlic4024You can’t inter library borrow?

    • @rachael5025
      @rachael5025 13 дней назад

      god i miss when hulu had a boat load of free kdramas 🥲

  • @ourladyofsorrowsxx
    @ourladyofsorrowsxx 13 дней назад +4

    My biggest issue is that those big companies have become way to comfortable. Netflix not allowing one of its best features, (Sharing accounts) amazon prime having the AUDACITY to charge more for no adds (no adds were also one of the huge advantages of streaming services) AND the fact that they cancel so many good shows.. so basically everything that made streaming services better than normal tv has been removed lmao

  • @DSP82885
    @DSP82885 13 дней назад

    I really liked your deep dive on this!
    I would love for you to do more videos on this topic as i do believe there’s more that could be talked about 🧡

  • @thats_suber
    @thats_suber 13 дней назад +95

    The way streaming uses content reminds me a bit of how some creators use RUclips. Many channels don’t creating evergreen content, and are mainly creating clickable, trendy, and discardable content. They are just worried about quick engagement.

    • @paddyq3235
      @paddyq3235 3 дня назад +1

      Honestly, this is kind of the essence of the problem. Art in a capitalist society becomes content, a product to be sold rather than you know a piece of art. Movies and TV are now products meant to be easily consumable whilst doing other things, books are compilations of tropes so booktok can add them to their goodreads. Music is made up of short clips that will be trendy on tiktok. The internet should make art more accesible but instead its making it more expendable.

  • @videodonna5594
    @videodonna5594 13 дней назад +134

    My biggest fear is that these new good movies won’t even get a dvd/blu-ray release - if Netflix doesn’t get into physical media (even if it’s only collectors editions of thete biggest successes) these movies and series will be lost. I wonder what the ramifications for film historians/scholars will be when they can’t get access to these movies/shows how will they be able to write about them?

    • @rosemary709
      @rosemary709 13 дней назад +35

      there are still people who pirate those and put them on external drives, so there's hope in that

    • @mossfrog9720
      @mossfrog9720 13 дней назад +6

      Don’t worry too much the big hits at least will be preserved via piracy (there’s still lots of people burning dvds)

    • @bastetowl3258
      @bastetowl3258 12 дней назад +8

      yeah they're completely getting rid of tv shows/ movies off of streaming services if the services think they're not successful enough, like they never existed. and they're not even releasing physical copies of these shows/movies. it's creepy how the world can go on like these pieces of media never existed. it'll just be a memory in some fans' heads

    • @videodonna5594
      @videodonna5594 12 дней назад

      @@bastetowl3258 literally going to create an entire decade of lost media

    • @nourishedbug5847
      @nourishedbug5847 6 дней назад

      what i don't see people talk about a lot is the extra content they used to put on dvd/blu-rays, like deleted scenes, outtakes, behind the scenes etc etc. there's so much value in those (at least in my opinion) and just to think what we missed out on because movies and shows have become just so sanitized in a way where we only ever get to see the final "clean" product and move on just makes me really sad

  • @klo10808
    @klo10808 11 дней назад +2

    My apt building makes everyone have a cable /internet package and i love it fr. It’s nice to just turn on the TV and watch whatever is there vs. needing to decide on something like with streaming. Plus it includes on demand so i need less streaming services, apps, etc. because i can just watch a lot of stuff through my main cable company.

  • @the_avian1218
    @the_avian1218 13 дней назад +1

    Mina! I must tell you that I talked about you and your videos during my AP lang argument essay! thanks for making such well researched and interesting videos that have stuck with me enough to remember to use them as evidence🙏🙏🙏

  • @myrthebrink5888
    @myrthebrink5888 13 дней назад +177

    Watching Mina’s videos when I’m procrastinating studying doesn’t feel like procrastinating because it’s well researched and actually teaches me sth

    • @mugwagwacresencia1628
      @mugwagwacresencia1628 13 дней назад +4

      Fr im supposed to be doing math homework but he videos are to good its like im in a lecture

    • @maryfoster3184
      @maryfoster3184 13 дней назад +1

      No literally, I’m like I’ll just hop on RUclips to give my brain a break from studying and now I’m watching a well researched lecture for fun.

    • @EVELYN-eu9iw
      @EVELYN-eu9iw 11 дней назад +1

      This is so me, I should be studying for am exam but I'm here lol

    • @mugwagwacresencia1628
      @mugwagwacresencia1628 11 дней назад

      @@EVELYN-eu9iw I have big exams in a week

    • @EVELYN-eu9iw
      @EVELYN-eu9iw 11 дней назад

      @@mugwagwacresencia1628 good luck! Make sure not to stress too much and take care of yourself

  • @MissMEhere
    @MissMEhere 13 дней назад +67

    If there is something I want to watch, I will subscribe to one streaming service for one month. After I immediately make my payment, I go in and immediately cancel so it doesn’t auto-renew. This keeps me entertained while also saving my money.

    • @meg7578
      @meg7578 13 дней назад +11

      Yep, why pay for multiple there’s only so much you can watch at a time.

  • @mignon1019
    @mignon1019 11 дней назад +3

    I never thought I would have an existential crisis over wattpad not existing anymore...

  • @croberts576
    @croberts576 День назад +1

    On the 3+ hour videos, i like watching them like the streaming services hope i'll use them. I have it in the background while folding clothes or cleaning the kitchen. I like them having enough time to go super deep into topics that are a bit more niche

  • @NaySordid
    @NaySordid 13 дней назад +72

    I feel as though these companies are underestimating our exhaustion with having to throw money - that none of us have - around every. which. way. Eventually, streaming will get _too_ expensive & we'll all collectively decide to use alternative methods until they take down the prices. 2024 is the year of giving absolutely no fucks, and I can only hope that someday these companies will realise that and start being _reasonable_ for once.

  • @a-yam943
    @a-yam943 13 дней назад +91

    I love collecting DVDs from the thrift store and flea markets. There’s an abundance of them at the thrift store, and I spend most of my time in the DVD and CD section. I found a Criterion worth almost $30 for $1.99 at Goodwill. Plus if a film is hard to find physically in thrift stores, eBay has an abundance of DVDs. Physical media is great. I don’t have to go looking around on streaming platforms for one of my favorite films anymore hoping I can find it.

    • @wildmarjoramdieselpunk6396
      @wildmarjoramdieselpunk6396 13 дней назад +2

      Friends of the Library sales have CDs and DVDs for $1. I found all the seasons of Arrested Development and Flight of the Conchords this way!

    • @frameandi
      @frameandi 13 дней назад +2

      I used to think my dad was an old head doing this, now father knows best, and i'm now an old head lol

    • @thebeaside
      @thebeaside 13 дней назад +1

      Plus the environmental impact of streaming is a big factor for me I do a lot of rewatching my favorite shows and movies and the energy cost of streaming is huge compared to watching stuff from a dvd or hard drive.

  • @PedroMiguelSantos
    @PedroMiguelSantos 11 дней назад +3

    Omg Mina 😭😭 not you not having a backup of your content!!
    Girl you should have 2 😳 💘💘 protect your work

  • @BernadetteBelle
    @BernadetteBelle 10 дней назад

    This is soooo comprehensive! You went into topics I didn’t expect just from the title. Ugh well done you! Alsoooo I love saltburn too can you please please do a deep dive on that movie?

  • @belligerentkitten
    @belligerentkitten 13 дней назад +40

    I grew up as a pirate. I checked out netflix during that window when netflix was p decent and had most things, before it had many competitors. Got sucked in for a while, got lazy. But I'm happy to say I returned to my roots and I'm never looking back.

  • @jiroanmatesanething7295
    @jiroanmatesanething7295 13 дней назад +97

    Wouldn't it be so ironic if DVD made a huge comeback

    • @aeoligarlic4024
      @aeoligarlic4024 13 дней назад +29

      With added bonus on each purchase, behind the scenes specials, uncut version etc. I think it might be coming back with a bang

    • @wildmarjoramdieselpunk6396
      @wildmarjoramdieselpunk6396 13 дней назад +29

      For some of us, DVDs never left.

    • @hazey_dazey
      @hazey_dazey 13 дней назад +4

      I hope so, i don't like bluray 😖 most movies release both though, thankfully

    • @chr1stopherthrobbin
      @chr1stopherthrobbin 12 дней назад

      I WISH

    • @allaboutmika
      @allaboutmika 9 дней назад

      @@hazey_dazeywhy not? blu ray holds much greater storage and quality

  • @lizzieperlizzie
    @lizzieperlizzie 3 дня назад +2

    The thing that has made me return to scouring charity shops for dvds again was moving country and changing my amazon account country....who knew you lose all your "bought" films and tv shows when you do that? Never ever "buying" virtual media again

  • @rebeccassweetmusic4632
    @rebeccassweetmusic4632 13 дней назад +4

    The Take has a great essay about what streaming has done to classic movies. They push and push more of what's new and what they "think" their viewers would like. I know there's Criterion and Prime Video, but they're the only main stream streaming services that have a decent vintage movies selection

  • @TRALILAtromimi
    @TRALILAtromimi 13 дней назад +36

    Love love love your take on the disappearance of 2000-2010 content. There is something a bit scary about it. I mean I'm 26 I spent quite a lot of time on those foregone websites. Now half of the stuff I was doing / watching has probably vanished. It's like having your childhood stuff thrown away lmao

    • @emilyb.8219
      @emilyb.8219 7 дней назад +2

      I'm 28, and sure they deleted all my teenage cringe when all the sites I used to frequent were shut down, but at what cost?

  • @ArtichokeHunter
    @ArtichokeHunter 13 дней назад +58

    The muzak idea is wild because literally no one would pay to subscribe to muzak, and even if people are on their phones watching things, if they're paying for it that implies that they value it. If they just want background noise/visuals they'd use RUclips.

    • @artsyheartsy361
      @artsyheartsy361 13 дней назад +19

      That's true, I don't turn on Netflix for background noise when I draw, I use RUclips video essays

  • @rfm8510
    @rfm8510 3 дня назад +3

    The fact even wattpad has subscription and you have to pay for the best fanfics is crazy.

  • @sydneybell1912
    @sydneybell1912 13 дней назад

    im always left amazed by your videos. the detail, research and presentation is so intriguing. thanks mina!!!!

  • @SailorCSH
    @SailorCSH 13 дней назад +39

    I really enjoy how your videos take one current event and recontextualizes it within larger historical and cultural phenomena. It’s my favourite format of video essays.

  • @Patchouliprince
    @Patchouliprince 13 дней назад +45

    This new era of streaming really made me realize how important my dwindling physical media collection was! Now I have started growing my DVDs, CDs, VHS tapes, physical video games, and vinyls again. I feel very happy when I want to engage in some media and all I have to do is open a cupboard and pull it out. I’ve always been poor, like couldn’t always afford wifi and bills and such, so I didn’t stop using dvds until around 2019, I think that’s why it’s so easy and comfortable for me anyways

  • @averylfong4843
    @averylfong4843 6 дней назад +2

    Honestly, I think a good way for Watcher to freshen up shows like Ghost Files is to bring on guests. Have other creators or friends come on and explore these spooky places with them. Maybe try to get people who are superstitious or easily spooked if they know that Ryan's getting used to things.
    Leave Ryan and the superstitious guest in a room to idk, do a seance or ritual and see what happens when you've got two scared people feeding each other in the dark. Ryan's never really had to do that.
    It's like going into a haunted house with friends who are super confident vs friends who are equally (or even more terrified).
    There are absolutely ways of thinking your way out of content slump, if you try to rely on ideas and fresh perspectives instead of making (uninformed/reckless) business changes.

  • @tessarose8430
    @tessarose8430 8 дней назад

    this this this this!! i've been thinking about some of these things lately, and you brought up even more interesting topics or details i had never heard of. such a good video! and thank you for not making 6 hour content...i would never get through it. my attention span isn't that bad though--like i don't understand why people are streaming shows but not watching them?? and that's a target audience for filmmakers?? wild. i watch movies with my full attention and if someone (my phone or family member) needs me i will pause it. i would simply be overwhelmed dividing my attention this way!
    and don't even get me started on shows being canceled or disappearing. Shadow and Bone was one of the best fantasy series i've ever seen, and Netlfix canceled it for what reason?? at least they're making some good K-dramas...

  • @AlexHider
    @AlexHider 13 дней назад +40

    I’ve been stealing digital media for 20 years and I’m not stopping, but I’ve been buying/burning disks for just as long and that’s also not stopping. You know what radicalized me recently? When I found out that Amazon cut out hours of content from Hunters, including most harsh and resonant scenes, like the human chess scene - arguably the one deserving of preservation most. I didn’t even like the show that much, but I was so incredibly incensed by this I had to download a pre-cut copy for archival purposes

    • @Dave102693
      @Dave102693 3 дня назад

      I’m thinking about full time sealing the high seas

    • @rezza_lynsaii
      @rezza_lynsaii 2 дня назад +1

      Honestly it’s time we all steal and make the ones in charge cry.

  • @kamsismith
    @kamsismith 13 дней назад +80

    I was on Amazon Prime a couple of days ago and I was watching the Bob Marley documentary from 2012. My mom came in and thought I was watching the biopic that came out on Paramount Plus weeks after that. That's how bad this problem is.

  • @hayl36
    @hayl36 13 дней назад +2

    I feel like this about music archiving too! It’s shocking how many albums from my childhood I can’t find either because of regional licensing or because the CD/tape was a local small label or self produced or something and seems to have never made it to the internet…..

  • @andilea6018
    @andilea6018 13 дней назад +3

    I’ve said many times over the years that if I was strapped for cash, I would solely do RUclips (the free ads version). There is SO much great content, and you can always “buy” or rent a film you’re interested in seeing if it’s had great reviews or you already love it. RUclips is where it’s at, IMO

  • @jwplaza77
    @jwplaza77 13 дней назад +57

    Seeing this video right after hearing that Netflix, Peacock, and Apple TV are gonna be offered in a bundle is hilarious. Someone on Twitter did mention that all of the bundling could be because the businesses are failing and they are banding together to stay afloat.

    • @denaa6140
      @denaa6140 13 дней назад +11

      Surely they didn't need whole departments full of analysts to figure that out. I knew this day would come when I first heard of Peacock. It's unsustainable. If they really wanna make money they should bundle them and sell them all over the world instead of the rest of us getting things piecemeal.

  • @Scipio0404
    @Scipio0404 13 дней назад +79

    I'm convinced whoever says cable was better never had cable. Episodes or whole ass movies being unconviently cut and then you had to wait like 5 minutes to continue it, and therefore a 2 hour movie would turn into a 3 hour one. Not to mention how they always just played the same movies and episodes over and over again. Plus if you wanted to watch something then you had to schedule your day around that.

    • @scottydog6713
      @scottydog6713 12 дней назад +9

      this is such an interesting take, because for me all of those points are pros, not cons. breaking up a movie is great! i can get up and stretch and get water and refill any snacks. reruns of beloved episodes are great! they can be played in the background for white noise without surprises. having to plan the day around a premier is great! i get to plan a hangout session with friends around a new release and we can discuss it when were done. i agree it does those things, i just think those things are good!

    • @rickytebbe
      @rickytebbe 12 дней назад +10

      ​@scottydog6713 but none of those things viewed from the perspective as pros require cable. You can still just do those things.

    • @scottydog6713
      @scottydog6713 12 дней назад +6

      @@rickytebbe quick question, how familiar are you with the concept of built-in convenience? these are pros for me *because* they come *built into* the mode of delivery, but those built in conveniences arent present in streaming models. if i only wanted those experiences regardless of the medium of entertainment, id join a book club instead.

    • @Window4503
      @Window4503 8 дней назад

      This comment makes me feel old lol

    • @Dave102693
      @Dave102693 3 дня назад

      You’re describing early RUclips era cable, or at least the start of enshitification of cable after broadband internet became available to most markets in the US.

  • @hazey_dazey
    @hazey_dazey 13 дней назад +2

    I already commented BUT i gotts say, i've seen a good number of vids talking about "too many subscriptions/streaming services" but this one goes much more in-depth and it's so great. Thank you Mina, for always being the best ❤
    Also, as someone who loves hours-long video essays/analyses, it's pretty rare to watch the whole thing in one sitting. There's only a few creators that i can sit and watch with my full attention for 2+ hours

  • @zuzanna_marianna
    @zuzanna_marianna 12 дней назад

    I'm watching you for two years (first time commenting, sorry) and your content is so important for me, vibey educational videos on trendy topics with amazing history. Thank you!!

  • @assaries
    @assaries 13 дней назад +23

    23:24 small correction, the Dutch subtitles are actually swedish!

  • @siracornful
    @siracornful 13 дней назад +42

    To me netflix has always reigned supreme because their video player actually.... work. I've been trying out some other streaming services and the apps are totally broken. I decided to take a netflix break when the password crackdown happened and me and partner couldn't travel seperately while sharing and I've been loving audiobooks, radio and public service streaming.

    • @carrained
      @carrained 13 дней назад +1

      Have you guys worked it out now? Because we couldn't keep borrowing my partners mom's Netflix BUT we could use our own both at my dad's place and in our apartment without having any problems! Don't know if that's because it was two wifi's that kept popping up but hope you guys found a way for it to work 🤞🏻

  • @blue4155
    @blue4155 13 дней назад +1

    this whole video just puts into words so succinctly what I've been feeling about streaming and tech in general for a while now! I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if we see a shift back to lo-tech stuff like dvds. In fact I wholeheartedly wish for it, i'm tired

  • @PookieRodro
    @PookieRodro 12 дней назад

    Your video essays are amazing.
    I learn more from you that from anything I learnt in university.