Really like the #2 compact variant, great for hitch climbing, I leave two on my rope ends along with two 5-2-3 ascenders in soft bridge with tubular web foot loops. In the middle of my rope I have two more 5-2-3 ‘s for DSRT that I use with the garda I always carry in my pack, along with a carabiner for munter ( using the modified super ) rappelling, I’m prepared for most any tree. Lately the areas I’m scouting and hunting , hitch climbing is necessary as trees are really tall and the forest has a thick canopy so first crotch is often 50 foot or more. Using 8mm teufelberger resc tech with 6mm sterling desert camo accessory cord which is rated for prusiks and friction hitches
Why has it taken me so long to find this channel?! I’ve been watching arborist channels for two years. The whole time I was thinking if one of these guys were a saddle hunter they could come up with some awesome applications to share!!! Finally found the guy!
First, thanks. Many have confused me for an arborist. I own my share of saws and have done my share of using them, but I am not an arborist. I am just a guy who has been rope climbing for a while, questioning the norm and trying to find a better way. I like to think that if I am truly helping, word will simply spread organically, by friends telling friends. That's how it started. Cheers.
I tested yours hitch, and that's great working. The other friction hitches not worked good, because 6 mm cord was jamming, and 10 mm Teufelberger Sirius easy slip (too big diameter and hard). The 523 (soft bridge method) worked very good, 6 mm was'nt jamming and 10 mm Sirius not slip (I need adjust, but safely worked). Thanks yours work.
Just wanted to say that you have done a fantastic job of explaining this method of climbing. I really appreciate you sharing your knowledge with us. I am planning on trying saddle hunting for the first time next hunting season; going to use the spring and summer to practice and get comfortable enough to do this in the dark. I’ve watched a lot of saddle hunting videos and I have to say that the one thing I was not a fan of is all the rigging required when arriving at the tree. I also didn’t like that some methods and systems require up to 5 carabiners. All that seems noisy to me. I like the rappel ring you use with the JRB ascender; it seems to require less setup at the tree. Now all I have to figure out is how to prep several different pine trees for climbing. These trees usually do not have a crotch or limb for catching a throw ball on within hunting height. Any recommendations?
Appreciate that Charles. This is the most recent video on the jrb climbing method playlist. If you're able to get a throw ball over something, and not too much junk under it, this trick should work for you. Otherwise, I use the hitch climbing method instead, although it is more technical. ruclips.net/video/HFYtMVuwdRM/видео.html
I keep the webpage updated as the innovations have influenced my own DSRT climbing. The best performance has been with a pair of 523 JRB Ascenders in Soft Bridge mode. 6mm cord on 8mm rope. However, every once in a while, I will find a tree where getting a friction hitch through a branch is a problem or a tree which warrants SRT. And so it's nice to be able to easily remove my hitches. And so now I am using Agile Hitches with Handles. Performance is almost the same provided that we pull on the handles when climbing upwards... that keeps them in a uniform state. jrbtreeclimbing.com/content/jrb-dsrt/
Having trouble with knot not holding? I’m using sterling oplux and blue water 6mm accessory cord for the hitch and a rappel ring for the non jamming tender. I’ve tied this hitch a dozen times and in tree I have to stretch hitch out to get it to bite enough to hold my position. Is it cuz my ropes are wrong? Maybe the blue water rope isn’t proper rope?
Without seeing a photo of the hitch, i can't give an accurate assessment. If you're in the JRB Tree Climbing Facebook group, please post a photo. Or contact me via the Feedback page on my website and I will reply to you via email. Most likely, it just needs to have slack taken out of it. If you're using it for single rope applications, depending on your weight, it's possible you need another wrap.
Hello John. I am a larger fellow (275 lbs) looking to get into saddle hunting. Bought saddle and started looking around for options other than using my climbing sticks. Found your information & have been blown away. I have always had some thoughts about doing some of these things but with no climbing experience whatsoever I had no basis to know what was good ideas versus death traps!! Anyway, my new rope & biners for Garda hitch will be here next week. Are there any suggestions you have for larger folks? ie, do any of your methods have max weight they will work for. Thanks in advance.
Thx. Happy to help.Conversations are easier via Facebook group discussions. JRB Tree Climbing group. If not a Facebook user, u can send me a message via JRBTREECLIMBING.COM and i will do my best to contact u directly.
@@jrbtc From what I saw in the video, I got the impression that you only made it through the first lap, so please take my comment as constructive criticism... visually through the video, it gives the clear impression that you made it through the first lap. However, if I'm wrong, I apologise in advance. Best regards
First of all i love your channel and you are doing a great job. it is no criticism , maybe i see it wrong...at 9:02 you put the Nail through the second coil and right after that it looks like you put the rope not through the second coil. it looks like you put it through the first and second, one coil under the "nailcoil" 9:15. Thats what is confusing to me. Iam German, so i have a little trouble to explain what i mean. I hope you understand. Thank you very much! Not long and i try your climbing method.@@jrbtc
Thanks John! Quick Q: if we want to minimize chances of metal on metal contact, we can leave the ring out I recall. What are the main drawbacks of doing so? More chances for binding? If I'm a light fellow (buck 50) then perhaps a 4-2-3 variant might be warranted if I'm also leaving out the rings in terms of likelyhood of binding? Thanks again!
Yes and yes. Without a ring or a carabiner, it will basically operate the same way that the standard hitch does, as demonstrated in the red cord. You would need to tie it to understand, but it's just a little harder to move, and will cause a bit more friction and wear on the cord. 423 is fine for most applications but I was trying to keep things simple and reduce variability and provide something that will work for as many applications as possible.
Really like the #2 compact variant, great for hitch climbing, I leave two on my rope ends along with two 5-2-3 ascenders in soft bridge with tubular web foot loops. In the middle of my rope I have two more 5-2-3 ‘s for DSRT that I use with the garda I always carry in my pack, along with a carabiner for munter ( using the modified super ) rappelling, I’m prepared for most any tree. Lately the areas I’m scouting and hunting , hitch climbing is necessary as trees are really tall and the forest has a thick canopy so first crotch is often 50 foot or more. Using 8mm teufelberger resc tech with 6mm sterling desert camo accessory cord which is rated for prusiks and friction hitches
Why has it taken me so long to find this channel?! I’ve been watching arborist channels for two years. The whole time I was thinking if one of these guys were a saddle hunter they could come up with some awesome applications to share!!! Finally found the guy!
First, thanks. Many have confused me for an arborist. I own my share of saws and have done my share of using them, but I am not an arborist. I am just a guy who has been rope climbing for a while, questioning the norm and trying to find a better way. I like to think that if I am truly helping, word will simply spread organically, by friends telling friends. That's how it started. Cheers.
@@jrbtc it definitely is apparent that you have been doing something more than just saddle hunting. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
Dude’s a knot god
I tested yours hitch, and that's great working. The other friction hitches not worked good, because 6 mm cord was jamming, and 10 mm Teufelberger Sirius easy slip (too big diameter and hard). The 523 (soft bridge method) worked very good, 6 mm was'nt jamming and 10 mm Sirius not slip (I need adjust, but safely worked). Thanks yours work.
Excellent. For optimal performance, I can't recommend 6mm cord on 10mm rope, except on a Bachmann.
Just wanted to say that you have done a fantastic job of explaining this method of climbing. I really appreciate you sharing your knowledge with us. I am planning on trying saddle hunting for the first time next hunting season; going to use the spring and summer to practice and get comfortable enough to do this in the dark. I’ve watched a lot of saddle hunting videos and I have to say that the one thing I was not a fan of is all the rigging required when arriving at the tree. I also didn’t like that some methods and systems require up to 5 carabiners. All that seems noisy to me. I like the rappel ring you use with the JRB ascender; it seems to require less setup at the tree. Now all I have to figure out is how to prep several different pine trees for climbing. These trees usually do not have a crotch or limb for catching a throw ball on within hunting height. Any recommendations?
Appreciate that Charles. This is the most recent video on the jrb climbing method playlist. If you're able to get a throw ball over something, and not too much junk under it, this trick should work for you. Otherwise, I use the hitch climbing method instead, although it is more technical.
ruclips.net/video/HFYtMVuwdRM/видео.html
Thanks for this!
Danke Schon!
Can I use this in place of a prusik in a saddle hunting setup?
Of course! Almost any of John's hitches are better than a prusik!
So what do you believe for double rope is best with your ways for climbing and then descending on your same rig?, thank you
I keep the webpage updated as the innovations have influenced my own DSRT climbing. The best performance has been with a pair of 523 JRB Ascenders in Soft Bridge mode. 6mm cord on 8mm rope. However, every once in a while, I will find a tree where getting a friction hitch through a branch is a problem or a tree which warrants SRT. And so it's nice to be able to easily remove my hitches. And so now I am using Agile Hitches with Handles. Performance is almost the same provided that we pull on the handles when climbing upwards... that keeps them in a uniform state. jrbtreeclimbing.com/content/jrb-dsrt/
Having trouble with knot not holding? I’m using sterling oplux and blue water 6mm accessory cord for the hitch and a rappel ring for the non jamming tender. I’ve tied this hitch a dozen times and in tree I have to stretch hitch out to get it to bite enough to hold my position. Is it cuz my ropes are wrong? Maybe the blue water rope isn’t proper rope?
Without seeing a photo of the hitch, i can't give an accurate assessment. If you're in the JRB Tree Climbing Facebook group, please post a photo. Or contact me via the Feedback page on my website and I will reply to you via email. Most likely, it just needs to have slack taken out of it. If you're using it for single rope applications, depending on your weight, it's possible you need another wrap.
Hello John. I am a larger fellow (275 lbs) looking to get into saddle hunting. Bought saddle and started looking around for options other than using my climbing sticks. Found your information & have been blown away. I have always had some thoughts about doing some of these things but with no climbing experience whatsoever I had no basis to know what was good ideas versus death traps!! Anyway, my new rope & biners for Garda hitch will be here next week. Are there any suggestions you have for larger folks? ie, do any of your methods have max weight they will work for. Thanks in advance.
Thx. Happy to help.Conversations are easier via Facebook group discussions. JRB Tree Climbing group. If not a Facebook user, u can send me a message via JRBTREECLIMBING.COM and i will do my best to contact u directly.
on five up arround you said cross inside two turn, but you just crossed in to one turn arround on the line?!
regards
I didn't understand your comment. At 8:50, i show with a nail where the 2 in 523 comes from... the working end goes up through 2 of the coils.
@@jrbtc From what I saw in the video, I got the impression that you only made it through the first lap, so please take my comment as constructive criticism... visually through the video, it gives the clear impression that you made it through the first lap. However, if I'm wrong, I apologise in advance.
Best regards
For me it looks like you Go through behind One coil. Irritates me too…
@Simon-80 can you tell me what is the exact minute/second in the video that is confusing?
First of all i love your channel and you are doing a great job. it is no criticism , maybe i see it wrong...at 9:02 you put the Nail through the second coil and right after that it looks like you put the rope not through the second coil. it looks like you put it through the first and second, one coil under the "nailcoil" 9:15. Thats what is confusing to me. Iam German, so i have a little trouble to explain what i mean. I hope you understand. Thank you very much! Not long and i try your climbing method.@@jrbtc
Thanks John! Quick Q: if we want to minimize chances of metal on metal contact, we can leave the ring out I recall. What are the main drawbacks of doing so? More chances for binding? If I'm a light fellow (buck 50) then perhaps a 4-2-3 variant might be warranted if I'm also leaving out the rings in terms of likelyhood of binding? Thanks again!
Yes and yes. Without a ring or a carabiner, it will basically operate the same way that the standard hitch does, as demonstrated in the red cord. You would need to tie it to understand, but it's just a little harder to move, and will cause a bit more friction and wear on the cord. 423 is fine for most applications but I was trying to keep things simple and reduce variability and provide something that will work for as many applications as possible.
always watching this channel😃
I hope i am providing some tools for your toolbox. 'Have some new ones coming. Cheers