There is NO Such Thing as CHEATING in Art!

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  • @angryduckart
    @angryduckart 7 месяцев назад +630

    There’s only one kind of art I consider to be cheating and that’s AI but then again that might not apply because AI art isn’t art.

    • @stevedecker8041
      @stevedecker8041 7 месяцев назад +19

      Indirectly yes, it's an art cause it's made with its own process of making and there could never be anything made like that same thing even if you try to make that again with the prompt 😅

    • @gabe_s_videos
      @gabe_s_videos 7 месяцев назад +32

      I don't like AI, or at least I don't like how it's being USED, since it's really just a tool that can be used for good or for ill. That said, I'm still on the fence over whether or not AI generated images are definitively not art.
      On the one hand, the image itself is a computer-generated amalgamation of tangible pre-existing images, not like a collage of images or a piece that the artist draws clear inspiration from other pieces for, more like a calculation of what an image MIGHT look like if a human created it; after all, what is a computer but a glorified calculator? By that definition, an AI-generated image is no more art than the result of a multiplication problem.
      On the other hand, you still need a human to put in the prompt and program the software, and that requires at least some creative decision making. And would it make a difference if you used imaged you DID have permission to use?
      I don't consider AI images to be "real" art the same way I would consider a painting or a photograph made by a human being to be art, but I feel like that doesn't automatically make it not NOT art.
      Maybe I'd feel differently if my own art was good enough to even BE plagiarized. :P

    • @bananabro1010
      @bananabro1010 7 месяцев назад

      @@stevedecker8041art is not the end product, but the journey
      AI art is not art at all

    • @TheHappyMid
      @TheHappyMid 7 месяцев назад +11

      I like ai just don’t use ai art and make vids or say it’s your own cuz u didn’t make it , no one did

    • @jinxy_jinx1392
      @jinxy_jinx1392 7 месяцев назад +21

      I think Ai is a tool it can be used as inspiration but people are using it and claiming it as their own, thats unfair.

  • @AmbiCahira
    @AmbiCahira 7 месяцев назад +193

    I told this story forever ago but since someone might read this I'll share it again. When I was somewhere around 8 years old I found a photo of a dog in a photo album and drew it; my first reference drawing. I was super proud of the result and when I ran into the kitchen to show my mom and some male visitor (friend of the family or relative, can't remember) my mom was impressed because I had captured enough likeness that she went "wow you drew (dogs name)! It's beautiful!" And the male visitor looked at it and went "you cheated" and it probably was a joke like "oh its so good that theres no way you did this right?" but it didn't read in his tone or face enough so I felt like I had broken the law and I carried shame for years, hid the drawing and stopped drawing. At 26 I met my husband who went to art school and he said "that guy obviously knows nothing about art because if you ask an artist then they'll tell you using a reference is a GOOD thing for your art" which helped me start daring to try again and heal those damaging words. So I echo what he said... those that point fingers that things are cheating are those that don't do art and don't know the history and culture and skill building of art. Listen to those inside the art circle that you look up to. Creativity is beautiful, let it play. 💜

    • @gabe_s_videos
      @gabe_s_videos 7 месяцев назад +21

      I NEED to keep being reminded that references are not only good for art but IMPORTANT. I get way too hung up trying to draw something exactly how I see it in my imagination. Chances are I'm drawing it right, but... it's in my imagination, which means it's malformed mush.

    • @melissaaldosari8024
      @melissaaldosari8024 7 месяцев назад +3

      💜💜💜

    • @KitKat_kittykat
      @KitKat_kittykat 4 месяца назад +2

      One problem that i have with using references in my art, is that i quite literally DON'T HAVE THEM most of the time, cuz i draw 90% of my drawings in school, during recess, where i don't have any references for the thing im drawing, but the moment thay i DO have a reference, the quality of my artwork skyrockets sooo........ I've tried to draw things that HAVE references when im in school, so that's helped me a lot

  • @heathershangovercure
    @heathershangovercure 7 месяцев назад +364

    The only "cheating" in art is stealing someone else's and claiming it as your own or claiming you drew ai images, in my opinion.

    • @ssavaart
      @ssavaart  7 месяцев назад +251

      THat's still not cheating. It's theft

    • @dodonodens8802
      @dodonodens8802 7 месяцев назад +18

      @@ssavaartlol

    • @heathershangovercure
      @heathershangovercure 7 месяцев назад +27

      @@ssavaart true!

    • @corrinflakes9659
      @corrinflakes9659 6 месяцев назад +17

      Theft and plagiarism. Not cheating.
      Because rules ≠ laws. Cheating is breaking rules.

    • @am_Nein
      @am_Nein 4 месяца назад

      ​@@ssavaart smart 🥹

  • @NaddleSchidaddle
    @NaddleSchidaddle 7 месяцев назад +125

    I also feel like this entire "cheating" thing comes from online videos that tell you "what or what not to do" in art. It can very easily give people the wrong idea about art.

    • @andrewparker9761
      @andrewparker9761 7 месяцев назад +12

      especially since the thumbnails for such videos shows a giant red X over one method and a green tick over the other

  • @josielindesay2736
    @josielindesay2736 7 месяцев назад +90

    I think you can use tracing as a TOOL, but it’s easy to forget about actually bettering your draftsmanship if you were to trace all the time. Your art would improve way slower! You can’t rely on tracing, but you also shouldn’t be ashamed if you use it to learn.

    • @ssavaart
      @ssavaart  7 месяцев назад +71

      I still trace from time to time. Most pros do it.
      But, yes, it definitely hampers your learning if that's all you do.

    • @zenithmushroom3393
      @zenithmushroom3393 7 месяцев назад +30

      I agree, but also I’d like to point out that not everyone makes art for the sake of “getting better!” Some people just do it as a hobby and are fine with being stagnant rather than always trying to get better.

  • @PokePony64
    @PokePony64 7 месяцев назад +161

    you can't cheat in art, but you can cheat yourself. make what you love, for you.

  • @louiskat1900s
    @louiskat1900s 7 месяцев назад +36

    I always got taught that tracing is cheating all the time, and my 11 year old artist kid is always desperate to explain why she’s traced something… it breaks my heart

  • @lily-P-56
    @lily-P-56 7 месяцев назад +25

    YES! I have seen many "style gatekeepers" on the internet and this is everything I have tried to say but said so much better. Thank you!

  • @stevedecker8041
    @stevedecker8041 7 месяцев назад +55

    There's only 3 types of cheating in art:-
    1: AI generated
    2: theft
    3: trying to make dad jokes like our man scott, cause it's his own art of commedy and we love it.❤

  • @OokamiKaii
    @OokamiKaii 7 месяцев назад +20

    I don't know why tracing always seemed to be stealing or cheating. It's so hard for me to change that mindset. So thank you so much for this video. ❤

  • @cindywomack1113
    @cindywomack1113 7 месяцев назад +8

    Beautifully Put (and Painted!)!

  • @sebastianz9097
    @sebastianz9097 7 месяцев назад +3

    My art teacher has an amazing quote on a wall by Picasso, I think. it’s “Bad artists copy, good artists steal“ and I love it

  • @CoyoteWildFlower
    @CoyoteWildFlower 7 месяцев назад +8

    Like you, I love Mucha. I also love this painting and think Mucha would be proud of you!

  • @leonelisresto6851
    @leonelisresto6851 26 дней назад

    I love this!! Sometimes it’s good to have a reminder that art has no rules!! Thank youuu!!

  • @DrStrange8291
    @DrStrange8291 7 месяцев назад +17

    The art police joke was hilarious:)

  • @malachite0099
    @malachite0099 7 месяцев назад +29

    Absolutely LOVING the longer little videos 😊

  • @kedrynevans6240
    @kedrynevans6240 7 месяцев назад +4

    1000% best message about creating ever! I loved Austin Kleon's book- we need to share this message to all creatives, we should be able to create without guilt or questions about cheating. I've been told that it isn't art if it is traced - even if it was my own drawing from the start. Crap! Total crap! We all glean from life, others, things that catch our attention- that is what makes us creative, because we see one thing and then another and another and figure out how to put those pieces together to make something new. Thank you for sending this message out to the world!

    • @alicequayle4625
      @alicequayle4625 6 месяцев назад +1

      Doing a rough drawing then tracing that is 100% accepted practice.

  • @averagekirbyenjoyer7909
    @averagekirbyenjoyer7909 7 месяцев назад +22

    "Good artists copy; great artists steal."
    -Steve Jobs

    • @lhavebeenthereman
      @lhavebeenthereman 7 месяцев назад +1

      Wasn't that quote from Pablo Picasso?

    • @DarthGardens
      @DarthGardens 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@lhavebeenthereman No, I said that

    • @lhavebeenthereman
      @lhavebeenthereman 6 месяцев назад

      Hi Picasso. How ya doin?@@DarthGardens

    • @zero-one2585
      @zero-one2585 3 месяца назад

      ​@@lhavebeentheremanNo it's from the rock

  • @puzzlingread
    @puzzlingread 7 месяцев назад +2

    I'm loving the longer videos and I want 33 percent more Mucha in my hair 😁

    • @ssavaart
      @ssavaart  7 месяцев назад +1

      Wouldn't we all!

  • @Doggyblox0
    @Doggyblox0 7 месяцев назад +4

    Hi Scott i started painting because of u i love ur videos❤ and ur my idol i wish i can be an artist😊❤

  • @CoraltheCat
    @CoraltheCat 7 месяцев назад +9

    Tracing is how I learned to draw. When I was seven I started tracing pictures to learn how to draw certain things. Then later on after I had traced a picture I would draw it without tracing. This is how I learned to draw things it was another way to learn how to draw. Then one day, I just kinda stopped tracing. It was like this was what I had been preparing for , and I just instinctively knew what to do. The thing is, when you’re a cheerful, optimistic, and super confident and motivated nine year old NOTHING and I mean NOTHING can get in your way. I knew I was NOT going to be perfect. Everything I did right was more motivation, a reason to celebrate. And everything I did wrong was a chance to improve and to learn. Tracing is a tool, art theft is, well, theft. (If you read this to the end wow you have officially impressed me here’s a virtual high five 🖐️ Have a lovely day)

  • @s_e_r.
    @s_e_r. 7 месяцев назад +1

    Also, love the longer content! Keep at it, RUclips will eventually push it. It's great stuff ❤

  • @UmaliOmela
    @UmaliOmela 7 месяцев назад +11

    I'm glad that using a reference photo is not cheating, its really annoying when people expect you to draw without a reference picture

  • @s_e_r.
    @s_e_r. 7 месяцев назад +7

    Great perspective! It still amazes me how people keep saying not to trace or use grids or pre made palettes or digital tools or... Just goes on and on. The greats used grids, and traced, and copied, and referenced each other! As long as you're not taking someone else's art and saying you made it, what's the problem? Even tracing other people's art is ok if you're only practicing your skills. Just don't steal!

  • @lenooooof
    @lenooooof 7 месяцев назад +7

    You're art is so inspiring to me, I love your work, and what you add to it. You've gotten me to "Steal" your idea of adding some background in the your style, giving me the idea to start adding backgrounds, something I never did or felt confident to do. You rock!

  • @UVHoneybee
    @UVHoneybee 7 месяцев назад +16

    Growing up I always heard certain things were "cheating" and as a result, I think this weird haze has settled over my art.. using a reference still feels borderline illegal, but even just being Inspired by an artist feels like it isn't allowed either. Im sure Imposter syndrome comes in a bit here, but one day I really hope I can just create without feeling these invisible barriers. Thank you so much for sharing your art! ♡ and also for giving others courage to break their own barriers. ♡♡

  • @lilninjasauras
    @lilninjasauras 7 месяцев назад

    When I was in high school I took an art class, one of the assignments was to bring in something to draw as our reference. Since I am a total Star Wars geek I brought in R2-D2 as my reference. We had to draw our reference around 9 times and then color them in different color schemes. Since I drew something so complex my teacher said I could trace my first drawing I had done of R2-D2 so I didn't fall behind the other students who chose something not as complex. Then most of the other students in that art class said I was cheating because I was tracing my own drawing I had done. It was so disheartening that even years all these years later it stuck with me, I don't remember the other students names just remember the shame that I "cheated".
    You are so inspirational, love the message you spread about art!

  • @GHOSERDUDE
    @GHOSERDUDE 7 месяцев назад

    Dear, Scott🙏
    Your videos always is so comforting. I was doubting myself in art 'cause sometimes I trace faces to make more accurate art and make a sketch over a 3D model. I always thought it's not cheating, but society made me think it's wrong. Thank you, internet dad💅 We all should just enjoy our process and be as strong as you💪💪💪

  • @brianjong8945
    @brianjong8945 7 месяцев назад +1

    I’m really starting to think that a lot of people who claim that photo reference (or even in person reference) or tracing is cheating don’t really get the process of art. Drawing straight from imagination in the most literal sense does not exist because we have to know what we are trying to draw to draw it whether we consciously know it or not. What we draw is influenced by what we observe or what stories we have been told. Like some people don’t seem to understand that if someone commissioned me to draw a Pitbull dog I would have to know what that breed of dog looks like to be able to draw it meaning I would have to reference.
    I know in the comic book world people look down upon artists swiping other artists poses which I think is ridiculous because that would imply that artists have ownership over poses. Now I would get if the swipe was done for one panel and in that shot the anatomy of the character changed to another artists style as being a problem but just the pose with stylistically different looking anatomy to me is hardly an issue you can’t own a pose.
    If “a real artist never works from reference or photos or traces” was true you know how many artists statuses we would have to revoke under that pretence? All of them.

  • @jelliemish
    @jelliemish 6 месяцев назад +3

    One of the biggest shocks in my time at art school was finding out that the technique of one of our professors was to make photomanipulations and paint over them. Up to that point I'd thought that was cheating. Nowadays I use that technique myself, especially for compositions of complicated pieces.

  • @kappapride6332
    @kappapride6332 7 месяцев назад +11

    I remember my friend and I making a fan comic for our friend by using the copying paper and tracing from existing comics. It was so much fun, we never had to worry about cheating or anything. We made a script and we used the tools available to make something new out of the existing material. Kind of like when animators use stock footage (especially in older anime, like Revolutionary Girl Utena is filled to the brim with stock footage).
    Thank you, Scott, for this video. I think a lot of people really need to hear this.

  • @carolynmacaluso4957
    @carolynmacaluso4957 7 месяцев назад +3

    The cover image of the fat Mona Lisa reminds me of a Progresso(?) ad for regular and chunky spaghetti sauce. The artist was Mark Hess. In addition to a style that was very similar to his illustrator dad, Richard Hess, he did a lot of work that were direct "copies" of old masters work but they would have a commercial spin to it. I don't see traditional work commercially anymore especially since there are digital tools and filters that mimic different mediums. Makes me wonder if traditional artists are even out there commercially anymore. Or do they now do private commissions instead to keep going. What are your thoughts on traditional illustration vs digital as an occupation? (If one is not a social media personality)

  • @frogpuffin
    @frogpuffin 7 месяцев назад +2

    I only see it as cheating if you trace over someone's work and claim it as your own or profit from it. Otherwise go ahead. Improve however you want

    • @ssavaart
      @ssavaart  7 месяцев назад

      Still not cheating. Just theft

  • @justblue974
    @justblue974 7 месяцев назад

    There are times where i feel that in stealing or cheating by using tools like rulers and stencil . But we just need to remind ourselves that there are no rules. Thanks for making thinks Clear that there are no rules.

  • @-RMR-
    @-RMR- 7 месяцев назад +1

    I love art but i dont have a hand for it, i can draw but my hand is just to shake so i draw digitaly and use a tool that makes my lines smoother but some day a person came up to me and sead that this is cheating and thats not real art. Thats the thing people just dousnt know anymore waht art means. I dont feel offended by any coments like this and it dousnt effekt my art but people just shoudnt anoy other peoples art because i know people are effekted by it

  • @ChocolatTeapot
    @ChocolatTeapot 7 месяцев назад +24

    I loved this video, it gave me the language to express how I feel about AI art.
    I am old enough to remember when digital art was new, and how there were traditional artists that looked down on digital artists for "cheating" with for example moving of selections.
    Back in high school in art history we had a discussion on the merit of conceptual art as art.
    In that discussion we also talked about how a lot of new art styles were looked down upon by the makers of the previous styles. Including impressionisme, cubism, fauvism, minimalism, etc.
    AI art feels the same for me. It is a new tool, with large implications. And there need to be discussions about the data the AI engines are allowed to build their database on.
    But the frase "AI art isn't art" feels to simplistic to me. As looking down on the people using this new tool.
    AI art isn't my cup of tea. Not as a consumer and not as a producer. But that I don't like something doesn't make it not worthwile.

    • @bananabro1010
      @bananabro1010 7 месяцев назад +8

      AI art steals from other digital artists to generate something soulless and lackluster. The previous styles you mentioned were all different ways humans engineered to express themselves. There is no human expression within AI art.
      That being said: this comment is not a jab at you, but at AI art. No hate

    • @ChocolatTeapot
      @ChocolatTeapot 7 месяцев назад

      Thank you, and don't worry, not taken as a jab.
      The point where you and I differ in opinion is that the end result is soulless.
      I agree that the AI engines are build on theft, at least partly. There is also public domain of which I wouldn't have a problem if they build their databases on.
      But the end result, the generated image, has human input. Someone who crafted the prompt.
      I view AI art somewhere between conceptual art and collages. Taking excisting imagery and making something new with it. And that making something new with it is after the input of a human.
      There are artists that make paintings with a dripping paint can on a string. The input of the human is how long the string is, the colors used, the in what trajectory the can is swung and when taken back. But in the "putting paint on canvas" aren't human hands involved.
      Where is the line between theft and inspiration?
      If someone takes multiple images of the internet and photoshop them into one piece. Is that theft?
      What is the difference with if an AI engine is used as tool instead of photoshop?
      I don't have an answer myself quite yet, but I'm leaning to "be critical on what input the AI engine is allowed to base its database on, but don't disregard product of the users"

  • @timtenhave7612
    @timtenhave7612 7 месяцев назад +6

    I love the longer videos! Thank you!!

  • @EliteInfiniteAI
    @EliteInfiniteAI 7 месяцев назад +5

    I’ve been trying to get into drawing aircraft, and you really inspire me!

  • @smoothvoice9108
    @smoothvoice9108 7 месяцев назад

    Thank You Master Scott,
    I learnt alot from this video, and i hope I'll learn more from you and other masters too,
    Love your style, and love your words🇮🇳

  • @mb3938
    @mb3938 7 месяцев назад

    I need this Scott! Thank you so much! Edited to ask where did you get those stencils? want to add stencils to my backgrounds. You inspired me! :)

  • @Karson_Phelps
    @Karson_Phelps 7 месяцев назад +5

    You are SO inspiring! Thanks Scott ❤

  • @ChumCheddar
    @ChumCheddar 7 месяцев назад +1

    Art can never really be cheating its a creation without rules since nobody ever invented any.
    Also tracing and filtering isn't cheating its a tool and well we also use tools to make art
    If that's the logic then.... Making art without filters is cheating :o...In all honesty just have fun that's the only rule.

  • @alittlewoowoo2214
    @alittlewoowoo2214 7 месяцев назад +4

    It's not the internet. I'm older then that and even my art teacher would say tracing was cheating or a projector

  • @shellyvrose
    @shellyvrose 25 дней назад +1

    Well... there is ONE rule
    DON'T STEAL/COOY ART UNLESS THE OG CREATOR HAS SAID IT'S OKAY!!!

  • @HumanInUniverse
    @HumanInUniverse 7 месяцев назад +2

    I saw those Poscas in the corner at 1:25 I know you secretly like them, even though in your video reviewing them you said you didn't really like them. And I see you use them a lot for outlining, maybe I'm wrong but that's my theory, an Art Theory!

    • @ssavaart
      @ssavaart  7 месяцев назад +3

      You got me!

  • @Corvuspacificus
    @Corvuspacificus 7 месяцев назад +2

    I was afraid to share the watercolor painting I made because I was using what I saw in your video 😅

    • @ssavaart
      @ssavaart  7 месяцев назад

      Hopefully you don't feel afraid anymore

  • @Superpunk2001
    @Superpunk2001 7 месяцев назад

    Think you

  • @sunnyquinn3888
    @sunnyquinn3888 7 месяцев назад

    Just find lots of artists you admire and just steal a little pinch from each one and put them all together.

  • @RedJohnston1
    @RedJohnston1 7 месяцев назад +3

    In my opinion, thieving is when you "take" a person's exact piece and say its yours, but when you "steal" it's more like taking part of YOUR piece.

  • @barbelmeier741
    @barbelmeier741 5 месяцев назад +1

    This makes my cry, because I have limited my art for a long time. I thought I have to create everything out of my own brain.😢
    Last year I have stoped this, and it's so hard to let this sh*t go.
    Thanks for the reminder.❤😊
    I love to steal like an artist, as artist.❤

  • @BobThe-Squirrel-dm9yv
    @BobThe-Squirrel-dm9yv 7 месяцев назад +1

    Hi Scott, I have chosen to do you as my artist research for GCSE art. You are one of my favourite artists and I won’t go into why because this might be quite a long comment!!! We have to do an Artist copy on our chosen artist and I was thinking on doing the painting in this video. So when I saw this video release I was thrilled!! Just thought as the topic is cheating and stealing would you be ok with me doing you for my project and copying this painting? Thank you so much

  • @gabe_s_videos
    @gabe_s_videos 7 месяцев назад +1

    I'm not sure if filters are the one and only reason this assumption of "cheating" exists. I think it's more than people who have a very passionate idea in their head of what art is or isn't now have an opportunity to say so. More often than not (and this includes myself), they have a feeling about why they do or don't like something and don't know the exact words to use to communicate it to something else.
    There are no legitimate critics on the internet any more than there are rules in making art.

  • @shanicestella2226
    @shanicestella2226 7 месяцев назад +1

    I Don't like to say using reference equals cheating , Example when i want to draw a drawing with an element of historical fashion , before i making my drawing , i would simply collect all photos i like the best and consume tons of qualitative reading before i can do such things
    Reference is important if you know how to use it wisely

  • @StarDrawz-lk4rz
    @StarDrawz-lk4rz 7 месяцев назад +5

    S-Super
    C-Creative
    O-Outstanding
    T-Terrific
    T-Thrilling
    If you want me to do his second name, like this video AND my comment 🫶✨

    • @Louis-fx6rv
      @Louis-fx6rv 7 месяцев назад +1

      Oh my gosh I watch your videos!!!!!
      👁️👄👁️

  • @Epsellis
    @Epsellis 6 месяцев назад +1

    I think I would count it as cheating if you took photos, put a pencil filter over it, and claim you drew it.
    It's not stolen, it's your photo, you even added the filter. but you did not do the thing you are claiming credit for.
    The key Idea behind it is to not claim credit for the parts you did not do.

  • @frogpuffin
    @frogpuffin 7 месяцев назад +4

    Also lovely work as always Scott!!

  • @katalinelo8011
    @katalinelo8011 7 месяцев назад +1

    To be honest, I couldn't tell you who influenced my art. I'm doing it in a very intuitive way. It's not gatekeeping. I just can't pinpoint it. Most of the time I only can tell who the photographer of my reference was (except if I used something from Pinterest because usually they aren't very reliable with sources). But that's it.

  • @hoxton_hummingbird
    @hoxton_hummingbird 7 месяцев назад +1

    AI art is really the flipped and signed pissoir-fountains of our time 😂

  • @rafaelatakami8019
    @rafaelatakami8019 7 месяцев назад +3

    Thank you, Scott! You're a wise man 🩷

  • @Dj-ms5ro
    @Dj-ms5ro 7 месяцев назад +2

    ty for this video! i actually had alot of worries in the past that were answered in this video, hearing these words made me feel so warm and happy. once again thank you!
    p.s i once thought the line tool was illegal or something and if other people found out i used it for a piece of art theyd hate me 😂

  • @Froggoisfree
    @Froggoisfree 7 месяцев назад +1

    Growing up my mother's big thing was to use your assets. You don't know how to spell something? look around the room and find something with that spelling. Need help with something? Look for someone who can help with that topic. I have absolutely taken this into my art, and it has made people question me before. But it doesn't matter to me! I'm using my references, and it gets me where i want to be, it gave me the art style i have. Without artists like Vangogh (And you) my art would never be what it is. Copy art! It gets you where you want to be.

  • @bridgetcaton2881
    @bridgetcaton2881 7 месяцев назад +1

    I will preach the importance of references for the rest of my life. It is NOT cheating and never has been.
    The improvement I made in just a few months when I started using photo references, WOW.
    And I saw even more improvement when I started drawing from life (at my local zoo!)

  • @OhHiyal
    @OhHiyal 7 месяцев назад +3

    Just want to say I love these longer videos! ❤️

    • @ssavaart
      @ssavaart  7 месяцев назад +3

      I'm so glad!

  • @luxiolooma
    @luxiolooma 7 месяцев назад

    The only problem I have with tracing is when you trace something exactly as it is, then claim it as your own, especially if it's another artists work.
    I don't mind if you trace a picture of someone, then color it, as long as you admit that you traced it.
    I've had so many people ask me "do you free hand this?" And I'm like "..yes? Isn't... isn't that the whole point of art?"
    Which, it's not, however, I don't think I need to have to tell people it's my own deisgn that I free handed everytime I show someone my art.
    All I'm saying is that tracers give other artists a slightly bad rep.
    Now... that being said, I don't believe tracing is cheating, just admit it's traced.

    • @ssavaart
      @ssavaart  7 месяцев назад +1

      No one owes anyone an explanation as to whether they traced or not.
      I trace all the time when trying to get the likeness right.
      I traced the horses leg in the Centaur painting.
      I don't have to put a "notice" on every piece I trace.
      Tracing is just a tool.
      Some artists use it. Some don't.
      It doesn't make one better than the other.

  • @aussiecrafter
    @aussiecrafter 7 месяцев назад +1

    I'm really enjoying these videos. A lot of what you're saying, I really needed to hear. Thank you 🙏

  • @ChantelleArts
    @ChantelleArts 7 месяцев назад +2

    No such thing as cheating in art, so true, love it ☺☺☺

  • @ChampiRudo
    @ChampiRudo 7 месяцев назад +1

    I am really enjoying your longer videos. I honestly love Mucha and how you approach to it, but honestly it is not something I would do myself, I am rather in the japanese style, and I still love how you think and share your thoughts. Thanks for making this videos, those help me to go thro thought times and inspire me to keep doing this, because I love drawing, even tho I do not think I can go to art school... Greetings and have a wonderful day:)

  • @rifathabiba498
    @rifathabiba498 7 месяцев назад +1

    Well said , Mr.Scott!
    PS: Im loving these long form content!

  • @Kraaketaer
    @Kraaketaer 7 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for another great video on a super important topic. I'm no expert on this by any means, but I feel like the "cheating" thing comes from a mixture of feelings of inadequacy (which most if not all artists have experienced a lot of, and which the internet tends to amplify massively) on the artist's side, and a kind of "purity culture" maintained by people unfamiliar with artistic practice beyond polished presentations of it on Instagram or similar platforms (where a lot of presentations tend to fall into polarizing categories of "look at my effortless mastery of my tools/skills" or "here's a photo with a filter slapped on/here's an AI-generated image that I'm claiming as my own"). Of course there is tons and tons and tons of content in between these two, but unless you're looking for it and know something about what to look for, I can definitely understand why people fall into these simplistic black-and-white categorizations. But they're also nonsense, obviously. Couple that with our culture's love for idolizing individuals and seeing things like skill and talent as innate rather than complex outcomes of practice, opportunity and a hos of other factors - things get oversimplified pretty quickly. I really love how you're consistently open about your own struggles, including how you overcome them, and don't hide your errors or things you're unhappy with. Doing that is perhaps the best antidote to attitudes like this.

  • @masonmaxwell5520
    @masonmaxwell5520 7 месяцев назад +1

    You know scott if you didn't become a artist you could've been a good art therapist

    • @ssavaart
      @ssavaart  7 месяцев назад

      Ha. That would mean "peopling", though

  • @anaovelho6228
    @anaovelho6228 7 месяцев назад +5

    The inking and the colors turned out perfect. Thanks for sharing your art (and wisdom) with us, Scott 🙃

  • @CJs_Will
    @CJs_Will 7 месяцев назад +1

    I constantly feel like i’m trying to prove that my art isn’t stolen or copied, that sometimes i sacrifice cool ideas for my drawings or animations, but you’re videos have really inspired me to be more free with my art, and not worrying so much about a standard i have to meet

  • @MelodyMiroir
    @MelodyMiroir 6 месяцев назад

    That’s a very great video. I’m just in a moment where I’m wondering if I am a theft of a cheater because I really like to use photo reference in fashion magazine. At the end my portrait doesn’t look like the photo at all (I change the color or the proportion, or my style is very loose, I use gouache, l don’t make réalisme etc.). But can I do,that ? And then. Can I sale my paintings ? What are the rules in this case… because I assume they are sometimes rules, right ?

  • @lamplol7120
    @lamplol7120 7 месяцев назад +1

    i personally think that an art style isn’t something u can steal or take because it’s a part of you! i can look at my first ever drawings and still see my art style in them even after i studied other artists and learned many things from them the core that is my art style is always the same!

  • @concorerofengland
    @concorerofengland 7 месяцев назад +1

    Desk tour please

  • @hallows7568
    @hallows7568 7 месяцев назад +1

    I really think it comes down to intent and willingness to grow and learn. If you're only reason for art is to copy it to get fame and recognition, what's the point? Like AI art, it takes all the humanity and....art out of art.
    -
    Though, if it's someone that's trying to learn, develop their own style, then the best we can do is help lead them along. So many people want to be hard on beginner artists, but they just happen to have visibility on their start that many people didn't deal with. Most of the time, blatant, uncredited copying is a mistake, so teaching people how to develop styles and crediting constructively is so important. That way, we can have more wonderful artists in the world

    • @ssavaart
      @ssavaart  7 месяцев назад +2

      Agreed. BUT... if someone's intent is to trace and get fame and recognition.... great for them.
      If someone wants to not trace and get fame and recognition.... great for them.
      If someone wants to trace and be unknown... great for them.
      If someone wants to NOT trace and be unknown.... great for them.
      It's none of OUR business. Is it?

    • @hallows7568
      @hallows7568 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@ssavaart that's fair. At the end of the day, it's best to just enjoy art and do our best to lift others up to. That's what makes art so great ^^

  • @EJzChannel
    @EJzChannel 7 месяцев назад +1

    i can't even express how much talent this man has❤

  • @randomhuman_05
    @randomhuman_05 4 месяца назад

    This made me feel a lot better about the techniques I use in my own art- I tend to trace my references and then draw from those lines, instead of just eyeballing it from the photo alone. Some people would consider it “cheating”, but it’s not.

  • @colinginn7025
    @colinginn7025 2 месяца назад

    David Bowie:
    "I'm a very tasteful thief, I only copy from the very best people's work"

  • @Stompmonk3y
    @Stompmonk3y 7 месяцев назад

    You'd probably enjoy Every Thing is a Remix by Kirby Ferguson: ruclips.net/video/X9RYuvPCQUA/видео.html

  • @ninjawithnobalance
    @ninjawithnobalance 7 месяцев назад

    What about tracing ? And i mean the kinds where you draw on top of something ? Or take a drawing and only changes the colour? ( this is all the kind of stuff i see teens do on deviantart 😂)

    • @ssavaart
      @ssavaart  7 месяцев назад

      Still not cheating.

  • @l3theeagle189
    @l3theeagle189 7 месяцев назад +1

    It’s interesting hearing that there isn’t really cheating in art. Great art as always Scott. I hope you have a great day each day Scott 😁
    I also have a question for you. What are your thoughts on AI generated art especially since you are a very hands on artist. Are there things about AI generated art that you don’t like or anything about it that causes you to be concerned with the way the digital age seems to change and introduce new forms of art?

    • @ssavaart
      @ssavaart  7 месяцев назад +1

      I think it's ai generated imagery. Art is something made by hand. It's something someone creates with thought and talent.
      Not something a computer spits out from typed in prompts

  • @ZTRCTGuy
    @ZTRCTGuy 2 месяца назад

    What these people mean when they say cheating is that you are cheating yourself out of learning better. Tracing (expect if you're like a complete beginner... ok) will only slow down your progress. Same counts for the grid method, this is not teaching you how to learn to draw, you're just copying the squares. Using reference is fine, copying is fine but if you ever want to draw your own faces and poses you gotta start drawing things from different angles than whats in your reference.

  • @gailasprey7787
    @gailasprey7787 7 месяцев назад

    The way I’ve literally learned anatomy is merely to copy a photo. Saying it’s quote in quote “cheating” is dumb because it’s merely a tool.

  • @vampirellover
    @vampirellover 4 месяца назад

    I'm so gonna steal your hack with stencil background 🤩
    But seriously, I agree in 100%. In any other thing making your life easier is called being smart and effective, I don't get why in art it is cheating...

  • @Tuvza
    @Tuvza 5 месяцев назад

    I've always really wanted to paint, especially watercolor, unfortunately I cant draw, so I've been tracing photos to do them in watercolor. I've been feeling like I'm "cheating", so this did make me feel a little better! xD

  • @prexytheartist
    @prexytheartist 7 месяцев назад

    It's really difficult to reference other artists coz people like to pinpoint and compare an artwork with other artists' artworks. It's like they don't know that originality is just a mish-mash of different things. An artist's viewpoint is the one that is unique! (Sometimes even the audience has unique viewpoint on the art).

  • @colleenmcchesney1482
    @colleenmcchesney1482 Месяц назад

    Thanks for sharing your experience & thoughts on this topic. It’s a great help for me to learn & figure out how to go about finding out what styles of art I enjoy & what pieces I like to take or use in my own work of art.

  • @Omegaskull69
    @Omegaskull69 4 месяца назад

    I was always taught that tracing, using rulers , stencils, compass , etc is bad and it hampers ur learning and its cheating. Scott was the person who changed my perspective. Thank u scott uncle.❤❤

  • @PirateOfTheNorth
    @PirateOfTheNorth 2 месяца назад

    I love your watercolour style and it has influenced my style. I push the colours and play with them on the page more. I have started using less realistic colours too.

  • @probably_a_person
    @probably_a_person 6 месяцев назад

    I really enjoy these longer videos :) Have seen your shorts every now and then, but because I personally prefer content I can sit down and actively watch, I never considered subscribing... until now, that is

  • @mommom-su5kq
    @mommom-su5kq 5 месяцев назад

    "we steal art just enough to have it be an homage and move on. A little too much and it's theft. Not enough and its worthless" I just found my senior yearbook quote! Scott is an amazing human and artist.

  • @ThOnlyHamForYou
    @ThOnlyHamForYou 4 месяца назад

    I really think it's just the conscience that make it cheating like it's the unspoken rule. Listen if you copy a Drawing without understanding a thing or why and how a certain thing is drawn that way, you you can't say you can draw. It's like copying a hiragana character then say "hey i could write japanese now". Of course it's different if you add your own style to it

  • @shanicestella2226
    @shanicestella2226 7 месяцев назад

    Sure , 4 Main Skills that every Artist must have is Colour Theory , Sketching , Inking and Colouring , but i think to steal the strategy of great artist is useful to improve the art better

  • @death_knell
    @death_knell 7 месяцев назад

    It’s unfortunate how AI takes a very similar style of many artists who work hard on their pieces. I hope it makes human-generated art more valuable! ❤

  • @saanvi3399
    @saanvi3399 6 месяцев назад

    It felt like cheating when I found this brush to blend colors in krita when I thought it should be done manually. I still think it's cheating 😅. I'm still trying to get my head around it but I also need to switch from computer to iPad someday... 😵

  • @bayanbishara6666
    @bayanbishara6666 5 месяцев назад

    1:05 all we heard growing up as a kids that liked to draw is that I'm just copying and cheating and it's not creative, like who cares? I'm just happy drawing the anime characters I like let me be

  • @_Darkstarmon_
    @_Darkstarmon_ 7 месяцев назад

    I’ll never forget being told that using a ruler for a line only project was cheating in highschool, I was made to do the whole piece without a ruler and then failed it because my lines were “horrible” and I “didn’t try enough”. I also have an essential hand tremor, meaning my hands never stop shaking!
    My professor in college literally told me to meditate and drink tea to get rid of it-
    Ya that’s not how that works but I did thank him for trying to calm me down after I realized I, again, ruined another piece with my shaky a** hands

  • @LilyChiDraws
    @LilyChiDraws 7 месяцев назад

    People always be so rude to me because i prefer drawing digitally. 😢 I had a coworker tell me my pieces weren't real art because stamp brushes are "cheating". Even though some traditional artists will use stamps for things like trees or basic shapes.

  • @lhavebeenthereman
    @lhavebeenthereman 7 месяцев назад

    I agree, there is no rules when making art. Except if you go to an Ai image generator and put prompts to make it look like drawings and then posting it on social media and then call yourself an "artist" even though the only thing you did was basically just an art commission to an AI.