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25. Tales from the Pit: Stable Genius (Feat. Soren Bowie)
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- Опубликовано: 11 фев 2018
- Soren Bowie joins Michael in the pit to discuss textbook teen angst, never being depressed, and the terrible burden of having a child.
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Artwork by Seth Laster.
Music by Kevin Clark, Abe Epperson and Kelsey Hudgins.
That opening poem is pure art.
It was amazingly beautiful and hilarious and like you said pure art lol I listened to it 3 times
God I'm going to miss After Hours.
Panzer GS same...
I'm disgusted.They need to rename it and change it just enough to avoid getting sued
Justin Pal-Freeman something
The only thing Soren triggers in me is calling Dan 'Lil Teacup' I'd like to thank him one more time for sharing that with the world, it makes me happy.
I've loved you guys since cracked and have spent many nights depressed and feeling hopeless and have gotten through the night with your content and tonight is another one of those times thank you and god bless
Liked just for the opening monologue poem.
Also, I've missed the ubermensh himself. Love ya, Soren.
Michael the podcasts are getting more and more refined. i think if you stick with it you'll get the audience you deserve. Bringing a camera in I think would help, I miss seeing you guyses(sorry im from Bawstin kid) faces. Good luck and i'll stick with whatever you do creatively as a fan man!
Well put, couldn't agree more
Wow. The part about "practicing" an emotional relationship was a punch right to the gut for me. I convinced myself that isn't a thing that real people do. I spent 2 years with someone I think was doing that with me. I'm still in love with him to the point I'm not interested in anyone else. I don't know where I'm going with this comment but I it feels like maybe shouting this realization into the ether might make it hurt a little less.
Well, this is a bit of a late reply, but there are two things I would like to tell you. The first (and most relevant) is that I feel you should reframe the experience to try and see what good came of it. And yes, I know that is easier said than done. Perhaps, in a kind way : "Yes, I love him and this hurts, but I need to grow from this. On the up side, I've contributed to his happiness, and helped him grow in a better person." And is that not the best we can do for those we love?
The second is that I figured I should "practice an emotional relationship" in my teen years, and when I tried it backfired beautifully. I ended up falling genuinely in love with that young lady, getting rejected, and having to deal with the pain it brought, but also an odd disconnect coming from the fact I knew I couldn't control or alter my feelings, but it seemed that I'd created them. Looking back (while writing this), I probably had a crush on her I'd not myself figured out at the time. Ah well. In an odd twist of fate, I am still very close friends with her to this day, but my unrequited feelings certainly made things akward many times.
anny05
I feel awful, because I've been that person to several people. I cared about them deeply, but knowing that things couldn't last forced my hand.
Knowing how much I hurt those people haunts me to this day.
Really glad to find out I am not the only person who will bawl my eyes out at a puppy commercial but feel numb when someone dies.
I'm grinning so hard, I love Michael and Soren bouncing off each other again.
“The wool has fallen from my eyes; I’m not depressed, I just see the truth, that I lack value, and the world is pointless.” This sentence sums up so much of my bullshit.
54:20 is the best section
"it makes you feel clever that you can't derive joy from life"
oh my stars.
Anybody else picture Soren looking heroically out into the distance from a ledge being a regular part of his day?
I'd love to hear more from Soren. He seems like a great person and as someone that's been dealing with depression for most of my life, I'm not offended by hearing about his experiences.
Also, thank you Micheal for creating this podcast. It's actively helping me to crawl out of the bottle as well as the namesake pit that all too often go hand in hand. Please be well, all love.
-Justin
Soren, I flipped out when I heard you started writing for American Dad, Was sooo happy for you. i fucking love that show.
You're right about Slurms Mackenzie, he wasn't depressed; just, "so very tired, rock on contest winners, rock on" and then he died rocking like some type of Soren Bowie uberminch!
Wow. Just really appreciate the tone, subject matter, and accessibility of this conversation. I wish more thoughtful discourse like this on depression was in the mainstream. Thank you both for this, and for all you put in to your Cracked content. Your dedication, talent, and hard work shone through. Stuff doesn't have to hit the big screen to be deeply impactful to people, and laughter truly is good medicine - helped me through some of my own difficult times.
These are great. I enjoy the candid nature... but also the good humor you have when handling these topics. I have short bouts of depression mostly comes in the form of extreme apathy super interesting to hear your stories as well. Much love.
"Why ever would you want to end the movie early?" God damn that's the most beautiful thing I've ever heard about suicide. I've missed all of yours and the other writers insights into life. Thanks for being funny and being willing to talk about tough subjects like this, it honestly helped me a little bit
DJ Warrior +
The self-deluding relationship bit really struck a chord for me. The most significant relationship of my life, at least romantic relationship, up until recently started because of a similar situation. Even now I'm not totally sure what was real in me, as regards emotions. It's really weird to hear that sort of thing come out of somebody else, that almost makes my situation easier to understand, easier to recognize. Listening to these podcasts has been painful, fun, educational. Thank you.
The Call of the Void. When otherwise healthy people wonder things like "what would it be like to jump off this cliff?"
Slurms Mckenzie was depressed. He couldn't take all the partying.
Listening to this as I turn 25 been in and out of the e.r. for the past week and a half... I tune into small beans all the time but this one.... well let's just say it was something I wasn't aware that I needed it till after I listened to it. Thank you and keep up the amazing work!!!!!!! :)
This podcast was the cherry on top of a good day. Thank you!
I have suffered from depression for at least two decades (I was diagnosed when I was sixteen, but I'd say it started a lot earlier than that) and I totally do what Soren does in terms of imagining all kinds of horrible scenarios -- I'm just not detached about it, and when I am depressed it definitely feeds the depression. I have anxiety as well (and ADD) and I have difficulty coping when I don't know what to expect, so my protective mechanism has been to play out all of the possible ways that something could go so that I won't be caught off guard. I do it in social interactions, I do it when I have to make a big decision, but I also do it regarding the past -- trying to figure out why things went wrong, and what I could have done differently to get a better outcome . . . it's exhausting. I figured out a while ago that this is why I don't like RGPs or improv -- I spend my whole life trying to figure out how I should do things in my real life, and trying to do it about an imaginary me and my freinds' imaginary thems is the furthest thing from fun.
It's great to hear you too together, your banter, again. I enjoyed your shows on cracked, especially after hours, extensively, as well as offered a fun, welcoming escape.
I've missed hearing from Soren, and I'm glad you had him on! You guys are great, and I'm glad things are working out for him.
I think the whole thing with holding the kid for the first time is different for everybody, sometimes it's just a surreal thing that is happening in the moment and others it really is an immediate life changing thing.
These podcasts have been getting really good. This one was really thought provoking and I understand not having a camera for this one with the Arian wet dream and all.
I would have peed laughing at Haley as jubilee! Dun nana na na naa!
That was an amazing intro. I want you to work my funeral.
Swaim is an artist. I appreciate the way this dude thinks and expresses himself. So funny and heartfelt and real. Wish this guy would “pop” but hope if he doesn’t at least the people in his life can appreciate such a person
Also loved hearing Soren share one of his American Dad ideas, good for him!
as a person that works with elders with dementia, theres no way to tell who you"ll be if your mind goes. Some had awful lives and in dementia they are eternally happy. Some had the most charmed life you could imagine full of actualized potential and loving family. then the dementia takes them to perpetual depression. no way to know
Will Koestner +
Just wanted to thank you guys. After Hours is still one of my favorite internet series. It gave me good laughs even on bad days. Thanks a lot again and the best wishes for you. :)
This was so easy to listen to. I checked how long I had been listening a few times, and it seemed like three times as long as I had assumed. Great work guys, keep it up!
This was a great episode. I really liked the chemistry between you two. I hope that I run into some more of your cracked friends as I keep listening (hopefully not all in tales from the pit)! Keep up the good work
Fascinating and frustrating at the same time. Great stuff.
i love how hes doing all these standing back flips... no easy task, unless your some kind of soren bowie like character
listening to this sometimes i get frustrated with it then i look at the tales from the pit logo and remember why i'm here
The crying at tv shows or concepts always gets me because I can usually track what I'm reacting to. Like I'll get really upset when someone else is like talking about a relative with cancer and then I'll be like "Oh... this is about my grandma..."
Musical Sequences or Opening titles in movies make me cry for reasons I can't comprehend. Usually they aren't even sad. I'm just furiously sobbing "they just don't make em like this anymore"
So glad I found your channel, Mike. Truly.
I learned alot about depression from someone who doesn't have it. #1 don't indulge it.
This series is one of the best things I've ever listened to, keep them coming MS Werd! :D
a theory: if we can differentiate existentialism from depression, and define existentialism as removing yourself on some level (because it isn't strictly 'intellectual') from your existence... your left with certain things that don't remove that you're left to contend with... i think one of those things is abandonment which i don't think is capable of feeling removed from and so, because we're culturally prone to glorifying having simplification/context, like existence we become capable of experiencing abandonment without feeling abandoned, similar as with depression we can brace for a feeling while understanding the feeling isn't a rational way of seeing or reacting to our environment...
that abandonment shit i think fucks with people because it's like a grip that doesn't hold and when you feel abandonment it feels like you've been abandoned and so you want to be rational and find a target of whose abandoned you, when, like depression, there isn't something making you feel that way, except your own existential self-hacking, which is important because it's building these facets of character... but it's very proceed at your own risk, a literal risk of ownership that i don't think there's much any higher calling than and why people default to god as curator of all these sorts of would-be abstractions... when really that only cottons if you give up a lot of self-access... they both carry risk, especially if you look at heaven as a carrot-on-a-stick and not a sundae at the end of the week
I love your podcast, I'm bingewatching all the channel
Soren, you terrify me. Brutual honesty! And somehow you interact with the world exactly as I do...
This is your most shared podcast episode, and I like to think it's entirely because of the phrase "Bizarro Hemingway"
After Hours was my favorite thing that was happening on the line... im not sure how i will fill this content void i am left with
Mike i love this you are doing amazing dude. Giving a home to people like me.
Thank you for this great talk, very helpful! Ain't you guys just two cuties :*
Been pretty depressed today, but this cheered me up a bit. Thanks!
I think Dads started saying they had an instant connection to their kids the moment they held them in their hands because they didn't want to do the work of actually connecting with their kids
so they just mistook that moment, probably the first time they had EVER held a baby, as actually connecting with their offspring
Sorry to respond so much! I love this conversation! Interesting that you had to opposite reaction to me in early relationships... I literally felt almost nothing for anybody I was attracted to and didn't pursue relationships because i was looking for some kind of perfect connection- until i got fed up late into high school and started to feel like I was getting left out of stuff and finally got the balls to ask someone out
Yr both great great. Geniuses at stability is the top goal. Yeah life is meaningless but the good news is that everyone knows that and everyone ignores it so your not less authentic than anyone else.
"THAT'S EVEN COOLER THAN T-BONE!"
Why are people always going on about how hamsome Soren is? Oh yeah, he is hamsome. :)
Damn good job, and awsome to hear guys together
The subtitle to this video could have been "Stable Genius (Feat. Soren Bowie the guy who can get sad but won't ever get depressed).
Soren! Extree, 1up, tales from the pit, and a minecraft video all at once? fantastic, please flood my subs more please. love you guys
maybe people from colorado just have a natural instinct to leave rocks in random places in an attempt to grow more mountains
For the record I laughed my ass off at the Sphere joke.
These are great
Get Winston Rowntree on the Pit!! Pretty please...
Yes! People Watching was so good
"And that lasts for about... two hours at a time"
'Oh goddammit'
Ahahaha yep, that's how it goes.
Yo Swaim,
i would listen to to all content you produce. Id even cross the line. Id actually pay for it. I love who you are without managerial oversight. On a budget of nothing, id still go out of my way to see what you have to offer. i guess the point lm leading to is that i hope that you have a world of opportunity that opens to you. But i hope you never have to sacrifice the candor youre afforded here. I wont look down on you by any means if that was the case , but i wish so much success for you. Great episode, as always. And best of luck to you
I like to deal with my rage in private. If I'm feeling especially irrationally angry I get in my car and scream. I find that to be very freeing
Soren is the imbodiment of going bananas
It's been forever since we got a new TFTP when are we getting moooooore
I never realized until now the expectation I set for myself was the most out of reach and lofty idea I could have ever set. I thought I could be a leader by 30... May as will of been a mansion, I never connected that to my depression.
To counter that I live my life without goals that way can't be upset for not reaching them leaving me genuinely not caring where I am or what I'm doing. I've replaced the feel of failure with a feeling of emptiness. I don't know anyone who's shared that so I've never been able to really talk to anyone about it... ... ... forgot where I was going... did you find a healthy medium?
Are You Scared 2006: ruclips.net/video/wKOy7W-LftQ/видео.html
I am greatful for your talents.
Another uniquely interesting podcast.
I have two friends like Soren. Tall, handsome, talented, smart, easily athletic, interesting, fun and . . . just the nicest people you'd ever meet.
Fuck those guys (not really, I love them so much).
Tony Campbell +
Celina k DFTBA
DFTBA
Oh my God! That's exactly what I do! "I'm not depressed this time, I just realised I'm a piece of shit and have no value. Medication won't fix this truth bomb!!"
Even though I've been diagnosed with depression by several medical professionals. I still don't believe I have it. So when the symptoms kick in, I can't seem to acknowledge "ah, my depression is really affecting me today. I should rest." Instead I'm like "Why is everything so difficult?? It's because I'm lazy scum that's why!!"
S.W.I.A.M. sometimes wish I am megalithic You goddam genius, you, Swaim.
Notmade ofPeople +
Jeeze I cry when baby chicks push through the egg. When my first kid comes out I'm going to lose it
*Soren "Ubermensch" Bowie*
Wow I never realized there were people withOUT depression.. For some reason I just never considered it. I guess that can be a part of depression itself.
Do I not love my children enough because I have never pictured them dying?
@ 1:03:31 Yep MIT found out it's mostly about chance.
Link
www.technologyreview.com/s/610395/if-youre-so-smart-why-arent-you-rich-turns-out-its-just-chance/
More please.
Pretty certain Slurms McKenzie suffered severe depression. Did you see his eyes? Wimmy wham wham wozzle.
He's actually Joffrey from game of thrones. Lol
And then he did a standing backflip.
Sooooooooooooooooooreeeeeeeeeen
Mike got BARS tho lmao
Slurm mcanzie was obviusly depressed.
Why doesn't the cracked crew just make their own site? Or bring the cracked podcast live back under a different name that shit was great
I want to go the swap meet now.lol
Bring back some form of after hours! Or new stuff is good too :D
Lol I love how Soren’s friends hyperbolize his alpha status so much for the sake of comedy. I look at him and see a really good guy with great qualities (intelligence, humor, good looking, etc). But I don’t see this tall tale of an alpha they joke about. That’s what makes it funny I suppose.
Was Marlon Brando depressed when being boned by pryor?
Came here after Michael mentioned it in the latest episode with DOB.
However, this enormous intro is really bothering me. It's like those articles that keep promising a point, and you keep hitting next page, and it just never gets to the point.
The poem was nice, as everyone else says, but damn I'm at 9 minutes and it's still an intro.
666 likes. I can't give you a thumbs up
who dislikes this?
Pitty poetry isn't valuable any more. Even more the pitty your character discription through the x- part wasn't in the poem or perhaps the first condition could be reversed.
That weird poem is goofy as fuck
Yo Swaim,
i would listen to to all content you produce. Id even cross the line. Id actually pay for it. I love who you are without managerial oversight. On a budget of nothing, id still go out of my way to see what you have to offer. i guess the point lm leading to is that i hope that you have a world of opportunity that opens to you. But i hope you never have to sacrifice the candor youre afforded here. I wont look down on you by any means if that was the case , but i wish so much success for you. Great episode, as always. And best of luck to you
Yo Swaim,
i would listen to to all content you produce. Id even cross the line. Id actually pay for it. I love who you are without managerial oversight. On a budget of nothing, id still go out of my way to see what you have to offer. i guess the point lm leading to is that i hope that you have a world of opportunity that opens to you. But i hope you never have to sacrifice the candor youre afforded here. I wont look down on you by any means if that was the case , but i wish so much success for you. Great episode, as always. And best of luck to you
Yo Swaim,
i would listen to to all content you produce. Id even cross the line. Id actually pay for it. I love who you are without managerial oversight. On a budget of nothing, id still go out of my way to see what you have to offer. i guess the point lm leading to is that i hope that you have a world of opportunity that opens to you. But i hope you never have to sacrifice the candor youre afforded here. I wont look down on you by any means if that was the case , but i wish so much success for you. Great episode, as always. And best of luck to you