Unofficial High Speed Tour of Panssarimuseo, Parola

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  • @BeyondTheGrave84
    @BeyondTheGrave84 2 года назад +1475

    I was the tour guide telling the story at the end of this video and I would like to offer my apologies for my nervous and anxious behaviour. 😅 I was there to give tour to a visitor group and had no idea Mr. Chieftain was there on that same day. I saw a tall man with a stetson walking around and quickly connected the dots in my head... and got nervous.😅

    • @afberglund2764
      @afberglund2764 2 года назад +173

      You notice it yourself more than we do.

    • @bwarre2884
      @bwarre2884 2 года назад +127

      You did well, sir!
      Good story, interesting and well told!

    • @leon7518
      @leon7518 2 года назад +47

      Interesting story though

    • @kramelbbiw
      @kramelbbiw 2 года назад +62

      32:28 for anyone wanting to skip to this bit. Great to get the story behind the damage, and amazing the two tanks both end up in the same place all these years later.

    • @stevebettany8778
      @stevebettany8778 2 года назад +42

      Thank you for telling the story connecting the two tanks it brought some life into the exhibits.

  • @davidfromkyushu6870
    @davidfromkyushu6870 2 года назад +467

    Girls und Pan- I mean Japanese fans donated 40,000 Euro to protect the Finnish team, I mean the World War II classic BT-42. I love this country.

    • @mangamania921
      @mangamania921 2 года назад

      Säkkijärven Polka

    • @MrLuhtala
      @MrLuhtala 2 года назад +19

      From captured Russian BT-7 tanks Finland built 18 with new turrets and 114 mm howitzer 4,5" Howitzer Mk II.
      A disaster.
      Most if them were destroyed / lost at the Battle of Viipuri (Vyborg).

    • @Kromaatikse
      @Kromaatikse 2 года назад +30

      It's true that the BT-42 was an abject failure in battle. But it was never intended to be a main battle tank, rather a high-mobility artillery system. The design is very straightforward: take a proven high-mobility BT-7 chassis (decidedly obsolete as a front-line tank due to lack of armour and firepower) and stick a small artillery gun on top (some left-over British hardware). This worked reasonably well - right up until the ammunition produced for it proved to be completely ineffective. Attempts to obtain better ammunition fell through, but evidently the Jatkosota team in GuP took the time to actually do so. And picked a "jokkis" veteran to drive it…

    • @RomanTheMexican
      @RomanTheMexican 2 года назад

      @@Kromaatikse exactly, thats what idiots dont get, they expect everything called a tank to be like an M1 Abrams otherwise they think its trash

    • @_aquamarina9308
      @_aquamarina9308 2 года назад

      Too many confused... but thats right!!😅😅

  • @ケロタン-t4v
    @ケロタン-t4v 2 года назад +46

    FromJAPAN
    わたしも30年前にフィンランドに行ったときに、パローラマデ行きました。
    日本で冬戦争の本を読み、興味を掻き立てられ、3回通いました。
    最後の日に、テーブルに折り鶴を置いて、フィンランドの当時の方々に敬意を表し、帰国しました。

    • @realtsarbomba
      @realtsarbomba 6 месяцев назад +2

      🌸Thank you ❤️ 🇯🇵

  • @PanzerWeeb3305
    @PanzerWeeb3305 2 года назад +640

    So let me get something straight. The Japanese made a contribution to this museum because it had a real life version of a tank they used in an anime? If this is true, this makes me love Girls Und Panzer even more.

    • @ArexanderClevor
      @ArexanderClevor 2 года назад +114

      This is exactly right, yes

    • @FrenchTaunter12
      @FrenchTaunter12 2 года назад +100

      Just Japanese things. God bless them.

    • @doitean1342
      @doitean1342 2 года назад +61

      PANZER VOR!

    • @cloud_tacky6086
      @cloud_tacky6086 2 года назад +80

      I watched Girls und Panzer at the recommendation of a tank channel on youtube, never really watched any anime but I decided to give it a try for a laugh. I LOVED it, binged all of the series and the movie, and fell in love with the scene of the Finns in the movie. Fast forward two weeks and I'm learning Finnish and singing the Säkkijärven polkkaa. God bless the BT-42.

    • @somethingtoputonpizza6667
      @somethingtoputonpizza6667 2 года назад +6

      @@doitean1342Avanti

  • @fatcat3211
    @fatcat3211 2 года назад +86

    end story was crazy. not many museums have 2 tanks that literally fought each other in combat.

    • @wederMaxim
      @wederMaxim 2 года назад +10

      Yes. This is probably not even in Kubinka.

  • @tommykaung5882
    @tommykaung5882 2 года назад +107

    This museum is a place that every hardcore Girls und Panzer fans should visit once in a lifetime. Not only for the BT 42 but to see how the entire fandom can support to preserve history.

  • @ToddDunning
    @ToddDunning 2 года назад +266

    What a terrific place. Love how they thought about creating an environment with the trenches, bunker and of course the insanely cool armored train.

    • @Wezqu
      @Wezqu 2 года назад +38

      Its quite common in finnish military museums to use trenches like that to direct people to the next part. In some museums like Salpalinja museum they are real World War II trenches restored as Salpalinja was a defensive line build during WWII but it never saw action as the combat never got that far to finnish territory.
      Those carriages/locomotive are really from four different trains. First carriage is WWII era build in 1937 and only carriage that survived from a Soviet armored train that finnish troops destroyed. The second of the carriages is russian WWI era turret carriage that is the last one in existence and was build in 1915. The two last carriages are from the finnish civil war of 1918 used by the red side that were converted from open top carriages. The locomotive itself is similar as used for the armored trains but is not itself ever used for that purpose. The train is meant to be in its anti-air configuration but they have not got the anti-air guns for the back two carriages yet.
      Edit. forgot to mention that on both ends of the train there is Ma gravel carriage meant to be sacrificed to protect the actual carriages from mines set on the tracks. Nothing much to look at on them but its interesting part of military history.

    • @tacticalmanatee
      @tacticalmanatee 2 года назад +9

      @@Wezqu Thanks for the info! That train was certainly a surprise to see show up in this video, and a very welcome one. Armored trains are a very cool but often forgotten part of modern military history.

    • @herptek
      @herptek 2 года назад +9

      @@Wezqu Salpalinja was improved also after the war and it remained a formidable defensive feature in case of Soviet invasion long into the cold war years. It was kept functional in all silence to the 80's I believe.

  • @maxkronader5225
    @maxkronader5225 2 года назад +208

    The locomotive for the armored train looks like a VR class Tk3 "Pikku-Jumbo" (little jumbo) steam locomotive. If so, it was indeed a wood burner, generally fueled by birch wood. They were the most common locomotives in Finland at the time and were well liked by their crews for their good performance and low fuel consumption. They stayed in service for general freight and passenger duty until 1975.

    • @michaelblum4968
      @michaelblum4968 2 года назад +4

      The sort of "fence" around the top of the tender is usually a sign of wood-burning steam power (coal chunks would just slide on through).

    • @gusgone4527
      @gusgone4527 2 года назад +10

      Very interesting Max. The role of railways in wartime is often overlooked by most enthusiasts. I recall one exercise in Germany during BAOR days. Visiting and briefly working with a TA unit that specialised in casualty evacuation by rail. They were all employees of British Rail as it was back then. A very interesting experience that opened my eyes to a completely new (to me) aspect of warfare. Rail logistics and use of the networks. A surprisingly well organised field of endeavour, as I thought at the time. But Europeans have had a couple of hundred years to perfect using rail during high intensity wars. The civilian infrastructure had all manner of military rules and regulations to adhere to. All clever stuff.

    • @pauld6967
      @pauld6967 2 года назад +5

      @Max Kronader Thanks for your thoughts about the locomotive.
      I felt pain when Chieftain just tra-la-la'd on and didn't look at manufacturer data plates or the signage the museum provided.

    • @maxkronader5225
      @maxkronader5225 2 года назад +3

      @@gusgone4527
      The US Civil War is often described as the first modern war due to such technological innovations as rapid communications via telegraph, maneuver of warships independent of wind via steam engines, armored combatants in the form of ironclad warships, rapid movement of troops and logistical resupply via the railroads, etc.
      What is often overlooked, however, is that America failed to implement many changes in doctrine and equipment that the conflict pointed towards. In many ways, the US military in 1870 was inferior to what it was at the end of the Civil War in 1865. It wasn't until WWI that the US really developed a professional career military.

    • @Kromaatikse
      @Kromaatikse 2 года назад +7

      It does actually have "Tk3" painted on the side. And yes, the fat chimney includes an effective spark arrestor - a definite necessity when you drive a wood-fuelled locomotive through endless forests. Finland did not have native coal or oil reserves, so coal was only used in a few express locomotives since it was relatively expensive to obtain - and even these also carried wood as a cheaper secondary fuel, for use on easy parts of the route.
      Finnish locomotive engineering was hardly backwards, despite the apparently primitive choice of fuel. It was a Finnish engineer, Kylälä, who developed a multi-lobed blastpipe to improve draughting efficiency and thus save fuel and water. This was further developed by André Chapelon into the better-known Kylchap exhaust system, which contributed to Gresley's record-breaking performance with "Mallard". Another identifying detail of Finnish locomotives is the third "barrel" (in addition to the usual piston and valve sections) on the cylinder castings, which apparently houses a bypass valve for efficient coasting, automatically operated by pilot valves built into the regulator handle. This is clearly visible in the brief footage we see of the Tk3 here.

  • @akukorhonen5182
    @akukorhonen5182 2 года назад +126

    First PaK on the video @23:00 is said to me being the only one in the museum with authentic victory rings on the barrel, 13 of them, altough having service painted every now and then. And if im not totally wrong, it's the one that my granpa used to knock down soviet tanks. He lost two guns and 13 is the total number, so they are not all shot with that last one he brought back to Parola from Lapland war late autumn 1944, when he was released off duty. He got home for Christmas after five long years in war.

  • @Anon-1870
    @Anon-1870 2 года назад +26

    Thanks to the BT-42 all those unsheltered tanks got a nice comfy shed! Great video as always.

  • @jessekorhonen3406
    @jessekorhonen3406 2 года назад +81

    If I remember correctly, the finnish T-34/76 which was mentioned in the end story was the same T-34/76 1941 which was given to the Bovington tank museum. It was actually the very first T-34 captured by Finland. The gunner/commander of that tank, tank ace Reino Lehväslaiho has written a couple of book about his experience in the Continuation war.

    • @mtlb2674
      @mtlb2674 2 года назад +25

      Actually no. The t-34 that was borrowed to the Bowington was not the first finnish t-34 (Lehväslaiho's tank) but the second t-34 that finns captured. (Syväri 2.10.1941)

    • @jessekorhonen3406
      @jessekorhonen3406 2 года назад +4

      @@mtlb2674 Huh, I guess I've mixed up the hull numbers at some point. It's quite confusing as they changed the designations halfway through the war.

    • @mtlb2674
      @mtlb2674 2 года назад +8

      Yeah. I checked out the prochure of the museum from 1993, from there I picked up this information. But all of these t-34's that were in finnish service have their own fascinating history

  • @GCCRACER
    @GCCRACER 2 года назад +85

    Love the sign basically saying "Climb up and break your neck if you like, it's all on you." Refreshing attitude in our health-and-safety crazy times.
    Edit: As the video progresses - really impressive museum.

    • @taistelusammakko5088
      @taistelusammakko5088 2 года назад +10

      Weird description of health and safety as "crazy"

    • @derrickstorm6976
      @derrickstorm6976 2 года назад +6

      "Health and safety crazy times" sounds like someone in your past didn't have a safety time...

    • @M50A1
      @M50A1 2 года назад

      Waaaa mask is dystopian!!!! Let me spread disease freely!! Muh freedom!!! 1984!!

  • @johncashwell1024
    @johncashwell1024 2 года назад +18

    That has got to be the most complete Armoured Corps Museum of any country seen so far. The crazy thing is that from the way the place looked from the camera's perspective as the video began, it looked like some tiny, strip mall, private collection museum, giving the viewer the feeling that the place is far bigger on the inside. That armoured train is the pièce de résistance! I have to visit this place! But until I do, I am very grateful for these "unofficial high speed tours" that the Chieftain does and I am happy to support this and other of his channel's endeavours.

  • @lukum55
    @lukum55 2 года назад +57

    The story in the end of the video about the KV-1 and T-34 engagement was feautured in the movie Tali-Ihantala 1944, the movie has been praised as highly realistic and its one of very few ww2 movies that feautures tank battles with interior shots.

    • @coolsenjoyer
      @coolsenjoyer 2 года назад +14

      Usually war films are either entirely fictional events or "based on real events" but what I love about Tali-Ihantala 1944 is that it feels like a series of dramatizations made for a documentary turned into a feature length film.

    • @Kromaatikse
      @Kromaatikse 2 года назад +9

      I heard that they included vehicles that actually took part in the battle in the production. Not just the correct *type* of vehicle, which would already be better than many war films manage, but the actual *individual* vehicles. These would includes some of the vehicles seen in the first exhibition hall, which as noted are all in running order.

    • @hullutsuhna
      @hullutsuhna 4 месяца назад

      @@coolsenjoyer I showed the movie to an American once & he commented that it wasn't very entertaining as a movie & that it felt like a documentary the way it kept jumping from one location to another, I was "dude, that's pretty much what it is supposed to be", though admittedly some parts were c**p like the scene where the message is intercepted, I get that they couldn't make that part realistic because people would have been bored out of their skulls as the message was handed over to code breakers, deciphered & THEN taken up the chain of command, but still, it's like that whole part of the movie from the signal intercept to the phone call that got things in motion was filmed by an amateur theatre troupe & plugged into a movie made by pros.

  • @andrews_lego_tanks_and_more
    @andrews_lego_tanks_and_more 2 года назад +132

    Would love to one day see the BT-42 repaired and restored to full condition one day. Such a unique and interesting vehicle.

    • @Lukusprime
      @Lukusprime 2 года назад +41

      Gotta pay respect to the old Christie suspension

    • @lietcedrick1412
      @lietcedrick1412 2 года назад +5

      @@Lukusprime a man of culture i see hehe

    • @dluff
      @dluff 2 года назад +13

      BT-42 was one of my favorite tanks in the “Girls Und Panzer” anime series.

    • @sinisterisrandom8537
      @sinisterisrandom8537 2 года назад +4

      That is actually the plan

    • @chryssalidbait8765
      @chryssalidbait8765 2 года назад +3

      @@sinisterisrandom8537 Wait, really? Then again, given the donations it raked in, I can definitely see why the museum would be interested in restoring it completely.

  • @dylanmilne6683
    @dylanmilne6683 2 года назад +32

    Incredible to actually have tanks which exchanged gunfire in the same museum.

  • @Bladsmith
    @Bladsmith 2 года назад +132

    When I visited this summer, that white little T-26 hiding in there made me do a double take and suddenly made me understand what a fearsome weapon even those things were. It's one thing looking at them all lined up in a neat row, totally another to see one in the wild, so to speak. For a split second, I could feel a fraction of the terror our men felt spotting an enemy tank in the forest, and could imagine the machine gun opening up on me.

    • @gusgone4527
      @gusgone4527 2 года назад +9

      Infantry and enemy tanks have an interesting relationship. They both fear each other for good reason. Before the days of active protection systems, the nemesis of the MBT was the antitank missile in the hands of skilled, well concealed infantry men. Ask the Russian forces engaged in Ukraine about that. Or for the matter, the almost completely destroyed Ukrainian tank forces. Contrary to the layman's opinion. Place an unsupported tank squadron in a city or mountainous terrain and the well equipped infantry have a distinct advantage. Establishing killing grounds for enemy armour is not that difficult.

    • @ulrichkalber9039
      @ulrichkalber9039 2 года назад

      maybe they should cover the ground there in white gravel to increase the effect.

    • @Kesssuli
      @Kesssuli 2 года назад

      @@ulrichkalber9039 No need. Nature will take care about that problem in very soon.
      Winter in north is longer than summer anyway so statistically speaking leaving it to white
      will give it more time in year to be invisible.
      ( not really but lets go with that :D)

    • @wederMaxim
      @wederMaxim 2 года назад

      Yes. This can be said about the green large tanks. It seems nonsense if you don't know that their guns are hitting for kilometers.

  • @jayfelsberg1931
    @jayfelsberg1931 2 года назад +32

    Never saw an armored train in the flesh. Quite an impressive museum. I have seen photos of the artillery museum, which includes a number of upgraded pieces. Great tour.

  • @SampoPaalanen
    @SampoPaalanen 2 года назад +110

    For those wondering about the Swastika on the Finnish tanks, yes that was the official markings and did predate 1933 (when Hitler came to power), though it was changed to the roundel seen in later tanks in 1945 (or many even in 1944) for obvious reasons. Prior to World War 2 the roundel was only as the cap insignia though these days it's used for everything.
    As for using American equipment, it's always the case that we Finns used what ever we could get, there was no ideological bias there, though there was preference for Soviet equipment for 2 reasons first Soviets didn't raise a stink about equipment they sold us, second all but the most fanatical communists knew that the most likely enemy we were gonna fight was the Soviet Union (no one admitted it in public of course but everyone knew) so having equipment that could use Soviet made ammo/spare parts would be boon to our logistics.

    • @mtlb2674
      @mtlb2674 2 года назад +8

      Yes. In the winter war finnish used white-blue-white stripe as their insignia. The black swastika replaced it 21.6.1941

    • @pyridonfaltis9761
      @pyridonfaltis9761 2 года назад +3

      Not quite true about the "no ideological bias", especially in the after-war purchases up to at least the 1980s. Soviet Union kept Finland under its watchful eye, and it was politically hazardous to acquire US made weapons.

    • @SampoPaalanen
      @SampoPaalanen 2 года назад +26

      @@pyridonfaltis9761 Oh that wasn't an ideological bias, it was a "it's better not piss of a known hostile neighbor state" bias. As in there was no ideological opposition from the Finnish government to getting western made weapons (even US made) but due to political and logistical reasons Finland preferred USSR made weapons.
      Also it should be noted that Finland was not a Warsaw pact country and was in fact on the Western side of the Iron Curtain.
      Yes the Soviets might protest if Finns bought tanks or planes from the west, but stuff like LAWS or radios not worth it the international fallout to the Soviets.

    • @pauliespinkyring935
      @pauliespinkyring935 2 года назад +5

      @@mtlb2674 In tanks yes but the same swastika in blue inside a white roundel was used as insignia of the airforce and airplanes so i guess it was changed to tanks for clarity and ease of painting.

    • @wederMaxim
      @wederMaxim 2 года назад

      Then why is the swastika fascist? Why are its rays directed to the right?

  • @Jerchw
    @Jerchw 2 года назад +38

    As a Finn and enthusiastic WoT player I appreciate this awesome tour of our little armour museum. Thank you Chieftain!
    PS. I hope that you recorded more Inside the Chieftain's Hatch episodes while you were there.

  • @adrianrosenlund-hudson8789
    @adrianrosenlund-hudson8789 2 года назад +14

    Spent a weekend there, and was lucky enough to ride a T-26. I was wearing Finnish WW2 uniform and it was SO hot. I near enough burned my fingers taking my helmet off. Excellent place. We'll worth a visit. I love Finland

  • @rvail136
    @rvail136 2 года назад +26

    I kept saying WOW! all the way through this tour...one of a kind vehicles that they have multiples...WOW!

  • @chrishewitt4220
    @chrishewitt4220 2 года назад +65

    "Oh, bugger! The locomotive is on fire!" This looks like a cracking good museum! Going to have to save my pennies for a northern European trip after the next one! I'll just have to be content with the Panzer Museum at Munster this December. Thanks for the tour Nic.

    • @dposcuro
      @dposcuro 2 года назад +6

      "Well, yes, it burns wood. It _should_ be on fire! That's how it _WORKS!"_

  • @kencreppin2146
    @kencreppin2146 2 года назад +17

    Very happy to see the collection is now covered! When I was there, all the vehicles were exposed to the elements.

  • @logicbomb5511
    @logicbomb5511 2 года назад +7

    These fins know how to do museums!!! Love pen turret display as well. National treasure, both sides of the pond.

  • @scipioafricanus6417
    @scipioafricanus6417 2 года назад +76

    There's a novel written by finish author Aarto Paasilinna where a drunk veteran blacks out in a StuG III filled with onions in front of this museum.
    The protagonist also guided a group of japanese tank enthusiasts in the story.

  • @jukeli
    @jukeli 2 года назад +7

    Don't forget to visit Museo Militaria 10 minutes car ride away from Panssarimuseo. Museo Militaria is a Finnish artillery, engineering and signalling museum. And when you go, don't miss the Enigma.

  • @valtterifani
    @valtterifani 2 года назад +18

    In Finland, BTR got a bad reputation when one sank in a lake and took the crew with it.
    Only a few survived the accident.

    • @villepore7013
      @villepore7013 2 года назад +7

      It was the BTR-60 specificaly, and it caused it to gain the nickname "Taipalsaaren sukellusvene" "submarine of Taipalsaari" after the place where it sunk.

    • @hullutsuhna
      @hullutsuhna 4 месяца назад

      @@villepore7013 Finnish gallows humor is almost better than the Russian counterpart (then again, apples and oranges, Finns make fun of comrades' deaths while Russian make fun of their own impending deaths, case in point "Ilmarisen uimaseura" vs. "Coffin for seven brothers" (M3 Lee) or "Good bye Motherland" (45mm M1937 or M-42 anti-tank gun, possibly both))

  • @tacticalmanatee
    @tacticalmanatee 2 года назад +52

    Oh now I'm hyped!
    The armor penetration displays on the turrets were amazing. I wish more such targets were on display. There were some very unexpected results! I wonder what the "light recoilles rifle" was, small hole but good penetration. Carl Gustaf m/42, maybe?
    This being in 4k was a big upgrade over some previous tours. The investment in camera equipment is definately paying off in quality increase.
    You certainly know where to go if you want to make a Vickers 6-Ton or T-26 video now.
    Lots of unique stuff there that I'd love to see Inside the Hatch Videos on. Stuff like the BA-10, the T-60/70 light tanks, the KV (even as rough as it is), and a look at the T-28 would be neat even as an exterior-only tour since so little is out there on them. Fortunately tank documentary series GuP already gave us a pretty good look inside the BT-42.
    A BMP or BTR would be neat to see a tour through, especially from someone who has commanded Bradleys and can compare the differences between the Western and Eastern thought process going into these. Same with the MT-LB. Even a quick exterior tour and commentary of the various Soviet APC/IFVs would be neat.
    The pak-40 defensive position is neat, one of the cool advantages of an outdoor display. And how many armored trains do you get to see? Certainly very few on video that's for sure. That's pretty darn cool.
    The anti-armor hall was great. Some unusual stuff in there, and seeing it all together is nice to get a sense of comparative size.
    What an amazing museum.

    • @kk-gr3ly
      @kk-gr3ly 2 года назад +11

      Finland never used the CG so most likely it was the 55 s 55 or the 95 s 58.

    • @tacticalmanatee
      @tacticalmanatee 2 года назад +3

      @@kk-gr3ly Never heard of those, they are cool weapons. The 55 S 55 seems like a good fit for that damage.

    • @RLRSwanson
      @RLRSwanson 2 года назад +11

      Most likely a slight translation gaffe as sinko is a catch all term used to describe both an RPG-launcher/LAW operable by one soldier and a dragged/towed/vehicle mounted recoilless rifle, which requires an entire squad to be used effectively and the only differentiation between them is "light" and "heavy", where English gets a bit more specific with operating principles as descriptors. So, they mean the 55 S 55 if the English text says "light recoilless" and the Finnish one "kevyt sinko"

    • @derrickstorm6976
      @derrickstorm6976 2 года назад +4

      @@kk-gr3ly could they still have tested the GC, especially against a Soviet tank? If you catch my drift

    • @kk-gr3ly
      @kk-gr3ly 2 года назад +5

      @@derrickstorm6976 Highly plausible, of course not "officially" ;)

  • @1967davethewave
    @1967davethewave Год назад +1

    That is an absolutely beautiful museum. I love the cut out tanks. It makes them so much more accessible and easy to understand how they worked.

  • @mtlb2674
    @mtlb2674 2 года назад +45

    Actually that Finnish 75mm is an all-new finnish design, not just a new version of old german 75mm.

    • @BeyondTheGrave84
      @BeyondTheGrave84 2 года назад +21

      Yes, it was designed by Tampella factory and was intended to be our main 75mm AT-gun just in case the Germans were reluctant to sell their Pak75's to us. They did and so only couple prototypes were built, one was shipped to Israel and disappeared from the history books.
      The gun itself was deemed suitable for AT role, but it had a major design flaw: the barrel of the gun was too low. It was intended to make the gun 's height as low as possible in order to hide it to the terrain and that's why the barrel was situated as low as possible. But, when you dug it in to a position the barrel would lay against the ground and you couldn't aim it properly anymore. Also, if you left the gun in position on top of the ground without digging it in, you lost the additional cover for the crew that the digging provided. A good idea but not practical in combat.

    • @mtlb2674
      @mtlb2674 2 года назад +9

      Yes. And for my understanding the sights of the gun were another flaw

  • @Sedan57Chevy
    @Sedan57Chevy 2 года назад +8

    Another excellent high speed tour! Really enjoy this museum. I love the addition of the defensive positions and trenches, and my goodness, that armored train steals the show for me!

  • @itmooh
    @itmooh 2 года назад +7

    btw. if you are into military museums and have some time to spend: 1. land at helsinki vantaa 2. visit aviation museum nearby 3. visit AA museum in tuusula (extra credit, suomenlinna and related stuff) 4. hämeenlinna artillery museum (extra credit riihimäki signals museum on the way,or possibly hämeenlinna castle) 5. parola tank museum (extra extra credit go see bf109s in tikkakoski finnish air force museum)

  • @sampointau
    @sampointau 2 года назад +12

    Interesting to see the drop down panels for the flakweirling position on the armoured train to allow the anti aircraft gun to work in a groundfire role.

  • @tmdwu5360
    @tmdwu5360 2 года назад +9

    Im Finnish and i have visited this place many times, also few aviation and war museums. Lots of cool stuff here.

  • @Stenskold
    @Stenskold 2 года назад +20

    30:00 That’s a Swedish “Miniman” anti tank weapon in the foreground (precursor to the AT4), not Finnish, although they used them.

  • @Ethnarches
    @Ethnarches 2 года назад +19

    Last time I was there, they didn't have the roofing on the outside to protect the tanks from the elements. Great to see they are now at least somewhat protected to keep those beauties around for the future generations as well. Hopefully they can restore at least some of them in the years to come, maybe with some more Japanese funding. ;)

    • @okaro6595
      @okaro6595 2 года назад +3

      The roofing is nice but it can make taking photographs harder on sunny weather as the contrast will be high.

  • @pourlemerite
    @pourlemerite 2 года назад +7

    Definitely going to put this on the travel plan list. That armoured train is awesome.

    • @Wezqu
      @Wezqu 2 года назад +8

      Yeah the train is interesting when you realize that it has carriages from both WWI and WWII. The last two are custom finnish build from open top carriages during finnish civil war by the reds in 1918 so totally unique.

  • @randallreed9048
    @randallreed9048 2 года назад +2

    Watching the video, it was a very nice presentation. Really felt like I was walking around with you. Probably never get to Finland, so this was very much the next best thing. Thank you for your pleasant delivery and informative narration.

  • @TheWellplayed
    @TheWellplayed 2 года назад +48

    21:40 One of my favorite Panzer 4 in the world, I wanted to draw tanks and learn about them after I used a photo of this tank as a reference. I've drawn multiple times since and it basically started my real interest in tank and armored vehicles.

    • @tmdwu5360
      @tmdwu5360 2 года назад +1

      I have seen it live :D its awesome dude

    • @redbasher636
      @redbasher636 2 года назад +1

      Uh, that is an armored train. Where are you talking about?

    • @TheWellplayed
      @TheWellplayed 2 года назад +1

      @@redbasher636 thanks for the heads up, meant to put a 21 lol

    • @Juhani96
      @Juhani96 7 месяцев назад

      Panzer IV G is one of a sexy beast

  • @markfergerson2145
    @markfergerson2145 2 года назад +5

    One of your best videos yet of one of the coolest museums you've visited.
    Love the literal war story at the end.

  • @M.M.83-U
    @M.M.83-U 2 года назад +18

    A wonderfull video.
    It's a shame the BT-42 and the armoured train are not in a good enought shape for an Inside the Hatch episode.

  • @gusgone4527
    @gusgone4527 2 года назад +19

    The far reaching global impact of Vickers Elswick works Newcastle upon Tyne cannot be overstated. Everything from battleships and huge coastal guns, to tanks of every kind. Not forgetting small by comparison, Vickers Maxim machine guns and literally everything in between. The first breach loading naval cannons were invented by Vickers-Armstrong before the two merged.

  • @TacoSallust
    @TacoSallust 2 года назад +5

    What a beautiful country, what a lovely museum!

  • @modernxenophon1582
    @modernxenophon1582 2 года назад +8

    Wait, the RUclips censorship bot can tell the difference between the Finnish and the Nazi variants of the swastika? Every day we learn something amazing on this channel.

    • @Eksistenssi
      @Eksistenssi 2 года назад +2

      windmill of peace and happiness

  • @AsbestosMuffins
    @AsbestosMuffins 2 года назад +4

    really a little miracle they have two vehicles that fought each other in the same collection

  • @calebdean2440
    @calebdean2440 2 года назад +14

    I was starting to think to myself how weird it was that there wasn't a single Sherman in an armor collection that large, but alas they had one after all.

  • @RichardGoth
    @RichardGoth 2 года назад +2

    Great museum..loved visiting in 2015 (despite accidentlt getting off the bus from Hameenlinna at the army camp and having to walk the rest of the way). Great artillery museum at Hameenlinna as well :-)

  • @TheApilas
    @TheApilas 2 года назад +4

    The place changed somewhat since I visited that museum back in early Autumn 1993 during my military conscript service at the Coastal Jaeger batalion in Nylands Brigade.

  • @HoseTheBeast
    @HoseTheBeast 2 года назад +1

    Right next to Parola Armored Brigade where I served my military conscription service in the armored AA battery! Amazing go see you there!

  • @mouse454
    @mouse454 2 года назад +5

    the shot up turrets are unique exhibits. Kept with the numbering and test notes.

  • @daviddavid5880
    @daviddavid5880 2 года назад +2

    So very cool that everything is in multiple languages. Very kind and considerate. (I wish my local tank museum was so thoughtful)

  • @johannes_s08
    @johannes_s08 2 года назад +6

    respect!
    On se vaan mukavaa et joku tääl Suomessa jaksaa edes käydä :D

  • @SpeedVaultz
    @SpeedVaultz 2 года назад +2

    Wow this museum has almost everything, very nice! We really appreciate these tours Nick!

  • @bryanfields5563
    @bryanfields5563 2 года назад +2

    This looks like a fantastic museum - thanks for sharing this!

  • @Makapaa
    @Makapaa 2 года назад +1

    Oh man, they've done great job with the pavillions and the new hall!
    Tho this place certainly had a bit a special magic charm to it with that gravel hillside littered with tanks... That Beige StuG3 blended quite well into the sun-burned hillside!
    Last time (circa 2010s) I went there I think they still had the Renault (or some other cute, small little tank(ette)..) just outside the cafe door. I loved that little bugger so much!

  • @D4rkstorn
    @D4rkstorn 2 года назад +8

    "Funny story" about the LAW: It's been in Finnish service for a while, and still is. The design is actually owned by NAMMO, which is partially owned by Patria(which is partially owned by the Finnish government.)
    So if you want to be very technical about it: Nowadays, the LAW is more Finnish than American... :D

  • @Kellen6795
    @Kellen6795 2 года назад +3

    Have to say. I did not expect the armored train lol. What a treat!!!

  • @stefanmolnapor910
    @stefanmolnapor910 2 года назад +1

    I know nothing about tanks, but i always love watching these, thank you

  • @JoshuaC923
    @JoshuaC923 2 года назад +3

    Thanks Chieftain! Best weapon display has to be guy with drum kit

  • @Tuulos
    @Tuulos 2 года назад +3

    Thank you for the great video. I really need to visit them again.

  • @CoffeeConsumer643
    @CoffeeConsumer643 2 года назад +1

    Was at the museum a bit ago as i served right up the road at the armored brigade until my service came to and end almost 3 months ago

  • @sebastianriemer1777
    @sebastianriemer1777 2 года назад +4

    I love the military museums of Finnland. Its rare that a country has such a variety of different systems but the finns took everything they could get their hands on and never threw anything away.. 👌🏻

    • @burgundilainenkeikari6908
      @burgundilainenkeikari6908 2 года назад +1

      I wish we could say that about t72s. They should be now fighting the russkies instead of melted as trash metal.

  • @HanSolo__
    @HanSolo__ 2 года назад +5

    This pattern pops out in too many pre-WWII countries. Buy and/or licence manufacture the
    - Renault FT-17.
    - Carden-Loyd tankette (by Vickers or locally made).
    - 6-ton Vicker/7-ton Vickers.
    - Something similar to 6-ton Vickers but heavier with a bigger gun and faster.
    - An early attempt at something that could become the proper medium tank. On multiple different occasions ended in a variety of stages of realisation.

    • @OltsuSuomesta
      @OltsuSuomesta 2 года назад +5

      "- Something similar to 6-ton Vickers but heavier with a bigger gun and faster. "
      "- An early attempt at something that could become the proper medium tank. On multiple different occasions ended in a variety of stages of realisation."
      In Finland's case those acquisitions were made by capturing enemy armour during the war.

    • @mtlb2674
      @mtlb2674 2 года назад +3

      Yeah. Why to buy tanks when you can get them for free?

  • @i_nameless_i-jgsdf
    @i_nameless_i-jgsdf 2 года назад +8

    I was wondering why so many Japanese donated to a Finnish museum and then i read comment and got reminded about the BT-42 that appeared in GuP, omg LOL

  • @WCKD.
    @WCKD. 2 года назад

    Thanks for the tour! I live 29mi away from Parola, but last time I visited Panssarimuseo was like +20 years ago when I was a child. 😀

  • @buckgulick3968
    @buckgulick3968 2 года назад +39

    Absolutely fascinating. Well done.
    Gee...I wonder why the Japanese donated so much to help save that BT???
    I guess we'll never know. (walks away whistling "Girls und Panzer" theme)

  • @wmose3694
    @wmose3694 2 года назад +2

    this was a perfect tempo for a walking tour of the museum very much reminds me of trips with my father (thank you this was a needed treat today)

  • @teddyedward100
    @teddyedward100 2 года назад +2

    Went thereback in July then we went to the Artillery & Engineers Museum in Haamenlina. Great day out .

  • @treadheadpete4770
    @treadheadpete4770 2 года назад +2

    I like the cut away tanks, great look at the interior!

  • @valtterifani
    @valtterifani 2 года назад +71

    Fun fact:
    After the wars, senior officers of the Red Army visited Finland and they saw T-34 tanks in the garrison.
    One officer said:
    "I didn't know we sold them to Finland."
    The Finnish officer who was involved said:
    "We haven't bought anything, they were taken at the front."
    According to the speeches, the officers of the Red Army went silent.

    • @wederMaxim
      @wederMaxim 2 года назад +4

      Can I find out the source? At least an approximate one. Because it looks like nonsense.

    • @valtterifani
      @valtterifani 2 года назад +1

      @@wederMaxim There is no written material, only the accounts of those who were there.

    • @wederMaxim
      @wederMaxim 2 года назад +3

      @@valtterifani I understand. Just hijacking tanks during World War II is a common thing, and it is unlikely that the officers of the Red Army did not know about it.

    • @broadbandislife
      @broadbandislife 2 года назад +3

      @@wederMaxim Hell, the Soviets themselves used a fair bit of trophy German kit of all sizes and shapes. And certainly ran into any amount of their own stuff that had been summarily repurposed by the eternally equipment-starved Axis combatants.

    • @paavobergmann4920
      @paavobergmann4920 Год назад

      @@broadbandislife Jupp. Those frustrated by the "Infantry doorknocking-device" really liked their "Ratschbumm" 762r. "r" stands for "russian".

  • @williamgebhardt8784
    @williamgebhardt8784 2 года назад +16

    being finland, im guessing those bottles with rags in the 1st case in the anti-tank pavilion were original cocktails for molotov. :)

    • @taistelusammakko5088
      @taistelusammakko5088 2 года назад +1

      Well yeah. They are molotov cocktails

    • @Azurall47
      @Azurall47 2 года назад

      yes, and before that a birch log =D

    • @johanmetreus1268
      @johanmetreus1268 2 года назад +15

      @@Azurall47 Anti-tank log mkII, birch.

    • @noth606
      @noth606 2 года назад

      Tongue in cheek reply to Molotovs "bread baskets" aka bombs dropped on Finland back then...

  • @raifsevrence
    @raifsevrence 2 года назад +3

    Those target turrets give you a good idea of how brutal big gun impacts are.

  • @cameron5802
    @cameron5802 2 года назад +3

    Having watched quite a few simulations on penetrations, I was always surprised at how much just the fins of stabilizers left a mark on the surface and to see it basically identical in this was remarkable.

  • @Sir_Wave
    @Sir_Wave 2 года назад +16

    the money from Japan came mostly from people who watch "Girls und Panzr" an anime with high school girls using tank in tank vs tank combat as a school sport, wich the BT-42 is a fan favorite.
    the power of weebs

    • @gabutman6144
      @gabutman6144 2 года назад

      HELL YEAH!!!

    • @taistelusammakko5088
      @taistelusammakko5088 2 года назад

      I think that chieftain who worked for gup der film knows this well enough

    • @Sir_Wave
      @Sir_Wave 2 года назад

      @@taistelusammakko5088 it's for other people who don't know that

    • @gabutman6144
      @gabutman6144 2 года назад +2

      I mean can you even called them a weeb if it's from an actual Japanese persons?

    • @MrLampes
      @MrLampes 2 года назад

      @@gabutman6144 no, you would call them otaku.

  • @RiqCrow
    @RiqCrow 2 года назад +4

    extremely well done, very educational to see these beasts in real life, and you seem to know what you talk about, so 10/10!

  • @davidh3985
    @davidh3985 2 года назад +2

    The front disposable grenade launcher at 30:00 is a Swedish made pskott m/68 Miniman, predecessor to the famous AT-4. Called 74 KES 68 Miniman in Finnish service.

  • @McRocket
    @McRocket 10 месяцев назад

    Enjoyable video.
    I also found that story at the end very interesting.
    Thank you for this.

  • @simmysims9209
    @simmysims9209 2 года назад +6

    They have upgraded. I have to take a new visit 🤔

  • @johnh4957
    @johnh4957 2 года назад

    Great tour! I'll never get out there, the quick tour gave all needed info/background and kept it manageable, I'm going to look at your other 'quickies'!

  • @adzilabidin6136
    @adzilabidin6136 Год назад +1

    Two tanks came to my mind when talking about Finland : the Stug III and the polkka BT-42 🙃

  • @cirian75
    @cirian75 2 года назад +4

    Nice medium-sized museum, just enough for a 1/2 day, unlike Bovington than needs a full 2

  • @89volvowithlazers
    @89volvowithlazers 6 месяцев назад

    an armored train just insane blown away they have a flippin armored train amazing

  • @plunder1956
    @plunder1956 2 года назад +1

    An interesting museum. Very spread out with items we don't see much in Britain.

  • @Whatshisname346
    @Whatshisname346 2 года назад

    Thanks for the tour. I really enjoyed this museum and I’d love to drop by again. There’s a lot of text at each exhibit so you need to have patient or interested company with you. The military museum up the road in Hämeenlinna also has a nice collection.

  • @kot32222
    @kot32222 2 года назад

    Awesome museum, i love when you can look inside of this monstrous things

  • @KreiviVonGrunt
    @KreiviVonGrunt 2 года назад +2

    If someone is wondering swastika symbols in all tanks . Finns used that symbol way before nazi germany in tanks and even in buldings. So its not nazi symbol. Nice video!

  • @Colinpark
    @Colinpark 2 года назад +1

    Lovely museum, I like the camo smock for the horse

  • @christophercripps7639
    @christophercripps7639 2 года назад +16

    Finland due to budgetary concerns & history, tended to keep in reserve anything that could go bang & was fairly numerous. Finland gave the bear next door all it could handle & no doubt wanted to be ready. Given the terrain an old AT gun or tank that goes bang would sure beat throwing rocks. As a result Finnish museums have (or had) lots of equipment dating.from 1910s onwards & unique modifications thereto. Where else can one see an armoured train or a Ruskie 76 mm Model 1900 field gun or 122 mm M1909 (mod'd) Krupp design howitzer (,in Tykisömuseo)?

    • @Kesssuli
      @Kesssuli 2 года назад +1

      Well place is called a Museo for a very reason.

    • @johanmetreus1268
      @johanmetreus1268 2 года назад +1

      Finlanders (Finns and Swedenfinns) don't throw rocks, but pieces of logs as seen at 28:33
      Unlike the American rocks, these things will actually make the crew wish they had checked the rack tension, though in honesty, the delivery system kind of sucks for the chap who pulled the short log.

    • @christophercripps7639
      @christophercripps7639 2 года назад +1

      @@johanmetreus1268 LOL. Ah yes, the US Army tried rocks & other things like rifle barrels to disable a tank's tracks. Result was gravel & bent steel.
      Finland also found something like 2 kilos or more TNT on a stick grenade handle could seriously blast the top of thin armour such as the top of a T-26.
      My point was not just anti-yank work My point was that during the 50s or 60s once the first line ordinance was used up a WW II weapon that could go boom or deliver a shell would be preferable to throwing rocks.

    • @Kromaatikse
      @Kromaatikse 2 года назад +1

      In the same display you can see vintage drink bottles from the local bottling plant - used, of course, to make Molotov Cocktails, the name originating from Finland even though the weapon itself had previous been used in the Spanish civil war. At the time of the Soviet invasion, Molotov was the Russian Commissar for Foreign Affairs.

  • @samiam5557
    @samiam5557 2 года назад

    That armored train was a rare piece, thanks for the $2 tour, it was fun.

  • @wvrails
    @wvrails 2 года назад +3

    22:00 Wonder if the chains over the Sherman's track and and around the bogies are substitute for chocks in front of the tank, or so someone doesn't try to roll it away? They certainly have a very interesting collection there.

  • @7TPdwCzolgu
    @7TPdwCzolgu Год назад +1

    the guy with the drumstick is surely a nice Tank

  • @MrLuhtala
    @MrLuhtala 2 года назад +3

    Thank You Chieftain.
    I am disappointed that You did not explain the origin of swastikas on Finnish tanks in the Continuation War = WW2.
    Swastika emblem was adopted for The Finnish Air Force in March 1918,
    (our Independence War) long before Adolf Hitler joined the Nazi Party.

  • @yashkasheriff9325
    @yashkasheriff9325 2 года назад +1

    At 21 minutes in - Chief, Marjatta is a regular StuG III G! Actually the first of the Sturmis to fire off a shot in the entirety of the Continuation War btw. The legend goes that the gunner, one Olof Lagus (the son of the Panssaridivisioona's commander, Ruben Lagus) scored four kills in just two minutes, all on four T-34 at knifefighting distance.

  • @MechaNick767
    @MechaNick767 2 года назад +16

    Me being the idiot that I am asked myself: Hm, why would the Japanese give 40k euro to the Finnish armoured museum? And then it came to me. Oh yes! The BT-42! Girls und Panzer fans. xD

  • @blegi1245
    @blegi1245 2 года назад

    The sight you were wondering about is the indexing system for 2S1. You receive the base direction for fire operations from a theodolite and then fix it to a tripod collimator that is set up on the left rear quarter of the vehicle.

  • @floundergearjam
    @floundergearjam Год назад

    Chief - That is a NICE museum. Thanks for the tour. Salute to our Finnish allies.

  • @patrickshanley4466
    @patrickshanley4466 2 года назад +1

    Awesome, especially running condition 👀

  • @braindisorder5043
    @braindisorder5043 2 года назад +1

    I was once cleaning these tanks from inside wohoo😅 I suggest everyone to visit this museum. Very interesting stuff.

  • @birgerjohansson8010
    @birgerjohansson8010 2 года назад +7

    I hope Moran will one day get an opportunity to show the inside of an *early* T-34, the one with the two-man turret. Must have been impossibly cramped but the Russians had to make do until early 1944 when they finally got the new turret.