In 200 years there’s going to be a weird history video about how women’s in the 2020’s were obsessed with injecting chemicals into their faces and butts to make them look like they had an allergic reaction to something or a baby with a dirty diaper 😂😂😂
It's men too. I know because I used to be a plastic surgery assistant in Beverly Hills. It's just as many men...also abdominal and calf implants. So stupid.
Yup- love the comments like “I can’t believe people didn’t know how bad that was for them!” Uhhh, there’s gonna be tons of stuff discovered in 50 years that’s awful for us that we do now.
Carmine beetles are still used in lipstick and blush today. In fact, it’s part of the reason why certain drinks were not considered vegan at Starbucks a while back. Because it’s still used as a food colorant as well.
The idea of corsets is still largely misunderstood. For 99.9% of women, corsets acted as support garments the way we wear bras now. Nearly all women wore corsets every day, without any problem. It was only high-class women who were expected to be fashionably thin who wore their corsets extremely tight. Women who worked - factory workers, maids, laundresses, nurses, school teachers, even nuns - wore their corsets at comfortable tightness which still allowed them to do their jobs unimpeded. And maternity corsets ABSOLUTELY existed, that served the same function as modern-day belly bands. In some ways, corsets would have been more comfortable than modern bras, not less, because the pressure was distributed evenly around the torso instead of just at the shoulder blades and rib cage, and certainly underwires were not involved.
yes! I strongly recommend people to have a look at Bernadette Banner's videos about the subject (I'm sure there are pleny of other ones out there too! I'm just a fan of Bernadette)
The idea of corsets affecting women's health is actually more of a myth and exaggeration. Every woman wore corsets everyay, just as we wear bras. Some women had issues with their weight, much as we have anorexya and bulimia today and might have laced them too tight. But the whole idea of the corset and the stays are that theyre supoosed to be comfortable. If the corset is umconfortably tight, you're doing something wrong.
There are exhibits in museums of livers literally indented by the bands of the corsets. They literally couldn’t breathe properly. They were, actually, very dangerous.
@@asummerphoenixlike op said, corsets that hurt your body are sized wrong or is CHEAP😂. Corsets hug around your body, and it is not supposed to be too tight or uncomfortable. If the corsets make you feel uncomfortable, then you are not wearing the right size. Corsets can give you the snatched look. The corset can take some time to adjust exactly to your body size and shape, but too much discomfort is a sign that you have to change the size of your corset. also link to that museum??
I've heard of how women used to lighten their skin by applying arsenic to it. Like the narrator said, people thought arsenic was only fatal if they swallowed it. Of course, that wasn't true, as evident by the many women who died from the arsenic on their skins. Incidentally, this is where the expression "drop dead gorgeous" comes from.
I imagine even if it it were only toxic through ingestion, you would inevitably swallow some over time during application and having it on your hands and in the air
Tight lacing is what made corset uncomfortable and was frowned on at the time. Also some women who tight laced wore their corsets all the time. This is what caused health issues.
Many women used their corsets comfortably. It's like we are now, celebrity are always cutting themselves up and injecting themselves up to feel more beautiful, while the majority of people have never gone to get plastic surgery
Honestly, I'm surprised the super wealthy didn't just use flour to make their skin look whiter than... uh... arsenic. Legit some of my extremely fair-skinned friends, because many brands don't sell shades light enough, just resort to using things like corn starch as a foundation powder. Interesting still... in asian countries, the youtuber Liziqi made a video about ancient chinese makeup - they were all natural; the red was made from rose petals and bee wax which can be used both as a blush and as a lip gloss/tint and the black was made from collecting ash/soot. Japanese - they used rice powder for the white makeup Europe: ARSENIC GAIZ!!!!
Flour was much harder to get then: also traditional flour is very thick and doesn’t stick well to anything dry, not making it good makeup. Also, for the wealthy flour was a “common” ingredient not something foreign, exotic, or exclusive that the Victorians loved.
Liziqi's videos are so beautiful but I wouldn't take anything I see on them as a fact or how to. Shes primarily an artist and sells a vision of a lifestyle to urban Chinese people. More like the cottage core people we have, some truth, some truth stretching, mostly selling imagination, limerance and escape not facts. Like ash and soot.. those concentrate dangerous chemicals like lead, arsenic, cadmium and chromium. You dont want those anywhere near your eyes. Corn starch as powder or to set make up is 🔥
The thing is, what you’re mentioning with damaging corsets is called “tight lacing” even then it was considered stupid to do that, corsets would help distribute the weight of over 20 or more pounds of fabric a woman was wearing so she wouldn’t be injured by her dress
@@jemandjemand2362 the color that was very popular was called Scheele's green. It was an arsenic based pigment. Paint had a lot of lead in it though, so I'm sure if they decided to go with paint instead of wallpaper, they were still exposed to toxins. I'm surprised anyone survived!
obligatory "corsets were not and still are not that bad to wear, they were simply shapewear and many of the photos you see of women with highly slimmed waists are actually "photoshopped" - that is to say, they were shot on backgrounds that would be easy to paint or draw over to achieve that look" comment. any fashion historian can tell you this, i'm surprised it's still so prevalent. the TB comment is probably still accurate though, they're not unhealthy for you but they do still slightly restrict breathing, and if you have a lung disease that's not going to help lmao
Carmine is still used for red dyes in common modern products, including cosmetics, paints/varnishes, fabric dyes, food dyes and more. It's often not listed in the ingredients list as "Carmine", but more commonly labeled by its other denominators (most often E120, "Natural Red 4", or Color Index 75470)
Corsets as torture is erroneous. It's no more damaging than the modern bra. The super small waists only look so do to padding, clothing proportion and posture manipulation; you know, just like now
I can imagine that in the not too distant future people will look at how people use botox nowadays in the same light as we're looking at the Victorian era beauty trends.
And pressurizing women to shave every inch and literally have "clean" bodies like babies. And those women who are "more hairy" and have problem shaving everyday need to do laser hair removal which is painful as hell
There’s plenty of information out there about corsets and stays throughout history. Let’s not promote misinformation about how “awful” corsets are when for most people it was their version of a bra. It’s getting tiring hearing this old false tune that’s been proven time again to be untrue.
agreed. super surprised and disappointed they decided to further these lies. plus the photo @5:02 is a famous victorian doctored photo. it’s not even hard to tell either. so much for being a history channel
I would think having those eye drops would make it hard to see, that's what it did for me when I had to have my eyes dilated for an appointment. It was impossible to focus on anything inside my car, including the gauges. ...ironic, considering I drive a Focus
Corsetry info was false. Very few women "tight" laced. How would the everyday women do her house work if she had her corset so tight she couldn't do the simplest house work (which, at the time was not simple)?
@@theesweetie23ca91 Actually things became more affordable in the victorian era. There was still homelessness ofcourse but it was a period of enormous advancement and for the first time ever, people who weren't rich could afford to live in luxury and comfort. They just didn't realize the harm's yet but many everyday people were effected by Victorian life in some form. It was a very experimental period.
Man, I'm glad we don't have a pharmaceutical and cosmetics industry today that will sell you products with long term deadly side effects that they know of, because of shareholder pressure for profit.
Exactly why, when people tell my wife and I "But everyone else does that to their daughter!!1!", we don't listen and do the right thing instead. Not everything everyone else is doing is necessarily any good.
Yeah like when people would marry their daughters off at 12 or trade them for pigs like they still do in parts of Africa. Over in the smaller villages if someone was to be raped the parents get livestock as payment then force their daughter into marriage with that person
CORSETS ARE NOT TORTURE DEVICES! If you actually took time to research them properly you would know this. Tightlacing was at its peak in the late 1800s/early 1800s, but was still very uncommon. Only tightlacing shifted your organs, not a corset in itself. Corsets are actually more comfortable than modern day bras and were used as not only an undergarment, but to support your back. Each undergarment had its purpose. I've seen historical costumers try corsets on for a week, and Bernadette Banner who even wore a back brace for years, which is in its own right a "modern day" corset, and everyone has said they are infinitely more comfortable. The thing with corsets though is they need to be made correctly and for your specific body, if not, of course they weren't comfortable; it would be like wearing the wrong size bra. I urge a channel that is supposed to tell us the "facts" to research more on the topics you include in your videos. I've loved watching your videos, but this error has now made me cautious to believe anything you say.
How could someone dilate their eyes and still be able to function at a party with lights? (assuming using nightshade has the same after-effect as having it done at an eye appointment)
“So what do you think? Which of these dangerous beauty trends surprised you the most?” … a… all… all. All of them 😳 It’s a miracle we have survived as a species lol
Erin Parson is a make up artist and she loves vintage make up. She has a great make up channel and she actually tested some of these. Not the TB though 😂
@6:03 That Weird History video "The Deadly Trail of Arsenic Throughout the Ages" was incredible, it is hard to believe something has been such a consistent use of poison throughout the ages.
I've just finished a 10 hour day, stopped for drinks and lunch; finally getting some rest. What is the "zero hour" you speak of, and what is that they do?
I had to get tested for tuberculosis as a kid, it sucked. Turns out I just had a really bad & long lasting case of viral pneumonia which almost killed me. 😅
*You need to do a video on fashion trends that were started by men that moved to women. high heels for example. I don't know why some people go crazy when a guy wears women's clothes today because they started with men in the 16th and 17th centuries*
Could you do a segment on those beetles that when crushed made a red pigment? When I was in Oaxaca, Mexico I learned about a parasite that when crushed made that color red. All those movies you've seen with Kings and important people receiving letters with a rich red wax stamp are showing you how the market for these bugs went crazy. I think it may have been Spanards who first brought it to Europe but soon this red substance was a must for the Red Stamp crowd. The elite could not get enough of it. It was from Mexico and it became more valuable than gold!! I specifically learned about it after seeing an indigo dye made from leaves. The dyes were used by native people to dye wool for very prized carpets.
Good Sunday morning from lovely Middle Tennessee it's a beautiful day here not hot yet.... love love love the Victorian Era stories it's fascinating how things progressed this Era was a huge education in all things health buisness the beginning of all sorts of industries! Appreciate the knowledge 😀 have a fantastic day yall be safe out there I do have to say that in particular the makeup the need to change how you look so deep that you will do anything to achieve it is infinite since time began humans have died for it... Victorian women were right there for it! They sacrificed there bodies and today we are all safer for it
bernadette banner released a video this week on edwardian plastic surgery, some medical texts dating back to the mid 1800's, but most of the discussion being the early 1900's. so we have an idea that, largely they'd be very shocked how plastic surgery results look now, how little has actually changed, and probably upset by some people's choices (especially BBL and buccal fat reduction). they'd probably be more ok with permanent makeup/aesthetic facial tattooing as part of cosmetic procedures. maybe.
From what the video said it was the ammonia they used that made it toxic. I assume the "carmine" used nowadays uses the non toxic bugs for color but a (hopefully) less toxic replacement for the ammonia.
@2:29 In the film Once Upon A Time In the West, Morton (Gabriele Ferzetti) is a railroad tycoon that is on crutches because of spinal tuberculosis. Much of the film is a battle about ownership of the land that the railroad was going to use.
0:09 Doja Cat dressed up as Choupette, the white Burmese cat of legendary German fashion designer Karl Lagerfield. "She kept things feline-forward, wearing prosthetics to make her face appear more cat-like." (People)
Vinegar isn't bad for you in moderation. I give my ten year old bluetick coonhound 2 tablespoons of vinegar twice a day for three weeks every four months. He used to get bladder crystals at least once a year before that. It lowered the pH enough that they dissolve and pass before getting large enough to cause cystitis or a UTI.
Putting nightsade into the eyes was common at least since the Roman Empire. The latin name of Nightshade is "Atropa belladonna" and belladonna means "beautiful woman".
@2:57 Some co-workers of mine at the supermarket SuperSaver used to joke that whenever someone was eating a lot but still looking skinny... that they must have a tapeworm.
Soaking in Arsenic is new to me. The Egyptians were first to create cosmetics. They used bugs for eye shadow, khoal, for rimming their eyes. They also used berries for lips and cheek color. They bathed in milk. Chewed on mint leaves for fresh breath.
Same here; Weird History and its partner Nutty History, as well as Absolute History, taught me a bunch about the ways of the Victorian era, but that one was a new one on me! I didn't know they did arsenic _baths_ back then... 😳
Corsets were not the problem.. Please stop that. It was the tight lacing ... and some of the photos used here were also modified.. Yes, victorians have their ways into "photoshopping" tiny tiny waists.. Corsets are just undergarments that worn properly are comfortable and only a small percentage of women were following dangerous trends.. just like today with plastic surgery.... In 100 years a video will say ALL women had the chest altered to a DDDD cup and that is not true.
Is that Stephen Colbert as the narrator? Sounds just like him. And the occasional comical comments are something he would improvise. If anyone knows for sure if it’s Mr. Colbert, please let me know. Thank you
I really REALLY need to emphasise what this video says about corsets is completely incorrect UNLESS you are tight lacing, which was a very very rare practice. It was seen as extreme fashion, like how we would see goth fashion. or some of those runways where the outfit looks like an inflatable pool today. Women have been wearing corsets for hundreds of years, but also wore garments like stays, which are different, used in for example the regency era. It is such a common and harmful stereotype for corsetry to be seen as "dangerous" and "unhealthy" when in actual fact, corsets were basically a bra. Obviously we know bras are used to support your breasts so you don't develop back problems etc. The same goes for corsets. Not only did they support the torso, but they became a necessity when skirts eventually got much fuller, adding your crinoline (hoop skirt) the under and over layer of skirts, and when it comes to evening wear, ruffles, bows, lace etc. making the gown a bit heavier than say, the regency dress which only required stays that were not designed to give shape, as they featured an empire waistline. Underneath the corset would be a chemise, aka a shift, to stop the corset from rubbing on you, and because of how good quality these chemises were, they were made of fine cotton after all, would also act as a breathable layer so sweat and bacteria could be separated from the skin, making it quite hygienic. It's also important to point out how you may think what I'm saying it wrong because clearly from the photographs women took during the Victorian era, they all had tiny tiny waists. Surely they tight laced? Still no. Because padding exists. Hip pads, layers from the undergarments you wore, all helped create the illusion of a smaller waist. Also, being pregnant was not at risk when wearing a corset. In fact, pregnancy corsets existed. They were obviously designed to accommodate your belly, with adjustable features when your belly grew. Obviously the myth of corsets making you faint, is very prevalent in our modern media, but just look at photographic evidence of women doing all sorts of activities while wearing a corset, you would never be able to do if you couldn't breathe. Such as: horse riding, dancing, fencing, tennis, hiking, acrobatics, croquet, climbing trees. Not to mention, working class women who were engaging in demanding jobs like in factories, or doing the housework. Also those drawings of disrupted organs is also ridiculous, as we've already established corsets were not tightly laced, and were only laced up to where you needed support. Those are also drawings, anyone could easily make these up. There is also a theory that men (yes ik patriarchy stay with me) created myths about corsetry to lessen the freedom women had with corsets. Seeing as though they were a mainly female industry, it would be in men's interest to present these corsets as the dangerous and unhealthy undergarments we see them as today.
Please update your understanding about women’s underwear. As it still is today - most women wear what’s comfortable and supportive. Only a few women in the upper classes would tight lace. Any women who had to do a day’s work would need to move and therefore wouldn’t and couldn’t tight lace. Use your common sense!
Don’t forget to mention the “Radium Girls” that worked in the watch factory. They put radium on their teeth so they would glow in the dark. It was all the rage.. Until….😮
@0:01 A girl I used to go out with was a fashion student at Stephens College, the second oldest continuous women's college, in Columbia, Missouri. The fashion students (some of which were also my next-door neighbors) were hardcore, and probably thought of fashion all the time. At the end of the year, they would present their fashion designs at the fashion show on campus.
Good lord, whoever is pulling the stock images needs fired. We're bouncing all over history midsentence. The narrator talks about the Victorian era and I've lost count of how many 1920s and 1700s images just pop up. I get trying to be relatable and cutesy, but there's relatable banter and then there's just inaccurate. Only thing weird about this history is the inaccurate videos they churn out.
Heard that. This guys voice is so good and it’s a great concept but the footage chosen is awful and as soon as you listen to a video you’re educated on you realize how poorly researched the vids are.
@6:16 In the tv series Forensic Files, there are many cases of arsenic used as a poison. That is the gold standard of forensic science used for culturally significant cases.
Omg. I Wanna Sex You Up came on the radio last week, I was traveling (it gets no air time in my town). I couldn't even tell you the last time I heard it. But, I CAN tell you I owned that single on a cassette and my 48 year old self sang EVERY word.
@@monicapyle Dancing like you were doing the Lambada thinking you were fabulous is how I see this going down! That's great! I had to hide N.W.A. and 2 Live Crew. Wondering now what my Mom hid from my Grandma! 🤣🤣
@1:54 Once Upon a Time in the West (1969) is considered one of the greatest westerns ever made. The tension of the film is greatest between "Harmonica" (Charles Bronson) and Frank (Henry Fonda, who grew up in Omaha, Nebraska)
4:40, 4:41, 5:02 All of these photos have clearly been edited with “Victorian photoshop.” Basically Victorian women used paint to cover up parts they didn’t like to make it look like their waists were smaller than they really were. Also, men wore corsets too.
Speaking of women in corsets and bearing children, what do you think a baby does to the organs and body? 🤔 Oh yeah that’s right the baby grows larger and temporarily displaces organs and deforms your midsection hmmm … I do understand that wearing a corset while having tuberculosis would have significant health issues. However, so would having a child inside of you! I have asthma, and I have children and I sometimes wear a corset …And while I was pregnant with my children, It was so unbearably difficult to breathe that I couldn’t even walk around because I just couldn’t get the air because they were lodged right up in my ribs all the way up until I had them. So in comparison wearing a corset, is small potatoes lol like. Absolutely nothing takes your breath like having a developing fetus, making a cozy little home inside your rib cage😂. A corset is still constricting, but not unbearable in the least lol. Furthermore, corsets in and of themselves are not the danger lacing them down to an unnatural size, would be dangerous obviously, but other than that corsets were basically just an old timey bra😂! A structural garment to hold things you know up and in. They also protected against itchy wool clothing, and were too make sure that you’re heavy skirts were not bruising your hips / rubbing the skin raw. Contrary to most “historical” TV, shows, corsets, were most definitely not worn against the bare skin. They were worn over an underlayer along with padding around the hips and bust to make their waist *LOOK* , impossibly tiny, even though it was of normal size …Because that was the fashion at the time and people did not want their corsets to get sweaty and gross,against their skin because corsets are hard to clean, and air-conditioning, had not yet been invented😂.
@0:01 In 2022, for the Met Gala's theme of "Gilded Glamour," Kim Kardashian "wore the gown Marilyn Monroe wore when singing to President Kennedy in 1962." (wikipedia) "The gown is the property of Ripley's Believe It or Not." (wikipedia).
They misspelled RUINED. Nobody else was to EVER EVER wear that dress. The disrespect is expected from that family, yet still shocking. Absolutely disgusting. I find comfort in the fact that Marilyn's legacy will outlast any Kartrashian.
@@elizlikethequeen If other's don't remind people of the glory of a celebrity's accomplishments, that celebrity will be forgotten. I am familiar with Marilynn, but if you go out and ask people if they know her it's likely a lot of people who don't even know who she is.
@@btetschner I definitely agree with you. I don't know how many more generations will know who Marilyn was, but I still think she wins. Even tho it doesn't matter at all in any way.
In 200 years there’s going to be a weird history video about how women’s in the 2020’s were obsessed with injecting chemicals into their faces and butts to make them look like they had an allergic reaction to something or a baby with a dirty diaper 😂😂😂
I think people who do that are crazy now
oh and being obsessed wirth annoying trends lk
It's men too. I know because I used to be a plastic surgery assistant in Beverly Hills. It's just as many men...also abdominal and calf implants. So stupid.
girls way more tbh@@pennyp7382
I'm sure that 100 years from now, when people look back at what we put into and on our bodies they will be horrified!
Yup- love the comments like “I can’t believe people didn’t know how bad that was for them!” Uhhh, there’s gonna be tons of stuff discovered in 50 years that’s awful for us that we do now.
A lot of things we do now will be seen as idiotic!
@@giraffesinc.2193 A lot of things already are. Ever seen those "coca cola removing rust" videos? Yeah.
@@HorseShow5 👀
So much makeup has talc in it
Carmine beetles are still used in lipstick and blush today. In fact, it’s part of the reason why certain drinks were not considered vegan at Starbucks a while back. Because it’s still used as a food colorant as well.
Wow😮
Hawaiian Punch had carmine as a food coloring.
Indeed, some of this ingredient is also present in sweets like those strawberry flavored cookies
Hawaiian Punch always gave me a sore throat
@@carolinaroot3492 I loved Hawaiian Punch until now. Hadn’t had any in years but was just thinking of getting some. Oh my…
The idea of corsets is still largely misunderstood. For 99.9% of women, corsets acted as support garments the way we wear bras now. Nearly all women wore corsets every day, without any problem. It was only high-class women who were expected to be fashionably thin who wore their corsets extremely tight. Women who worked - factory workers, maids, laundresses, nurses, school teachers, even nuns - wore their corsets at comfortable tightness which still allowed them to do their jobs unimpeded. And maternity corsets ABSOLUTELY existed, that served the same function as modern-day belly bands.
In some ways, corsets would have been more comfortable than modern bras, not less, because the pressure was distributed evenly around the torso instead of just at the shoulder blades and rib cage, and certainly underwires were not involved.
yes! I strongly recommend people to have a look at Bernadette Banner's videos about the subject (I'm sure there are pleny of other ones out there too! I'm just a fan of Bernadette)
More like girdles
I still wear corsets and do prefer them to bras. Better back support
Came to find this comment. Love how impossible it is to shade the corset anymore 😂
@@maryalicefrazier2817I wear a bodysuit with underwire. I had them for decades .
The idea of corsets affecting women's health is actually more of a myth and exaggeration. Every woman wore corsets everyay, just as we wear bras. Some women had issues with their weight, much as we have anorexya and bulimia today and might have laced them too tight. But the whole idea of the corset and the stays are that theyre supoosed to be comfortable. If the corset is umconfortably tight, you're doing something wrong.
There are exhibits in museums of livers literally indented by the bands of the corsets. They literally couldn’t breathe properly. They were, actually, very dangerous.
@@asummerphoenixlike op said, corsets that hurt your body are sized wrong or is CHEAP😂. Corsets hug around your body, and it is not supposed to be too tight or uncomfortable. If the corsets make you feel uncomfortable, then you are not wearing the right size. Corsets can give you the snatched look. The corset can take some time to adjust exactly to your body size and shape, but too much discomfort is a sign that you have to change the size of your corset. also link to that museum??
I've heard of how women used to lighten their skin by applying arsenic to it. Like the narrator said, people thought arsenic was only fatal if they swallowed it. Of course, that wasn't true, as evident by the many women who died from the arsenic on their skins. Incidentally, this is where the expression "drop dead gorgeous" comes from.
As well as mercury.
I thought it was lead... How did we survive🤔
I imagine even if it it were only toxic through ingestion, you would inevitably swallow some over time during application and having it on your hands and in the air
Drop-dead gorgeous!!
Tight lacing is what made corset uncomfortable and was frowned on at the time. Also some women who tight laced wore their corsets all the time. This is what caused health issues.
Many women used their corsets comfortably.
It's like we are now, celebrity are always cutting themselves up and injecting themselves up to feel more beautiful, while the majority of people have never gone to get plastic surgery
Honestly, I'm surprised the super wealthy didn't just use flour to make their skin look whiter than... uh... arsenic. Legit some of my extremely fair-skinned friends, because many brands don't sell shades light enough, just resort to using things like corn starch as a foundation powder.
Interesting still... in asian countries, the youtuber Liziqi made a video about ancient chinese makeup - they were all natural; the red was made from rose petals and bee wax which can be used both as a blush and as a lip gloss/tint and the black was made from collecting ash/soot.
Japanese - they used rice powder for the white makeup
Europe: ARSENIC GAIZ!!!!
Flour was much harder to get then: also traditional flour is very thick and doesn’t stick well to anything dry, not making it good makeup. Also, for the wealthy flour was a “common” ingredient not something foreign, exotic, or exclusive that the Victorians loved.
I'm pretty sure I've seen lip gloss with the same ingredients as the Chinese recipe. It was like nine dollars because of its organic label, though.
Liziqi's videos are so beautiful but I wouldn't take anything I see on them as a fact or how to. Shes primarily an artist and sells a vision of a lifestyle to urban Chinese people. More like the cottage core people we have, some truth, some truth stretching, mostly selling imagination, limerance and escape not facts.
Like ash and soot.. those concentrate dangerous chemicals like lead, arsenic, cadmium and chromium. You dont want those anywhere near your eyes. Corn starch as powder or to set make up is 🔥
The thing is, what you’re mentioning with damaging corsets is called “tight lacing” even then it was considered stupid to do that, corsets would help distribute the weight of over 20 or more pounds of fabric a woman was wearing so she wouldn’t be injured by her dress
Gives a whole new meaning to 'If looks could kill'
Good one!
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Certain wallpapers (especially a popular shade of green) in the victorian era also had arsenic in it and killed many people.
more like lead, which made it green
@@jemandjemand2362 the color that was very popular was called Scheele's green. It was an arsenic based pigment. Paint had a lot of lead in it though, so I'm sure if they decided to go with paint instead of wallpaper, they were still exposed to toxins. I'm surprised anyone survived!
It was also used to dye fabric, which would be worn next to the skin, with disastrous results. Oh well, at least you'd look sexy as you wasted away!
there is a good series on RUclips of things from different eras in your house that could kill you. I remember the green wallpaper from that
obligatory "corsets were not and still are not that bad to wear, they were simply shapewear and many of the photos you see of women with highly slimmed waists are actually "photoshopped" - that is to say, they were shot on backgrounds that would be easy to paint or draw over to achieve that look" comment. any fashion historian can tell you this, i'm surprised it's still so prevalent. the TB comment is probably still accurate though, they're not unhealthy for you but they do still slightly restrict breathing, and if you have a lung disease that's not going to help lmao
Carmine is still used for red dyes in common modern products, including cosmetics, paints/varnishes, fabric dyes, food dyes and more. It's often not listed in the ingredients list as "Carmine", but more commonly labeled by its other denominators (most often E120, "Natural Red 4", or Color Index 75470)
Corsets as torture is erroneous. It's no more damaging than the modern bra. The super small waists only look so do to padding, clothing proportion and posture manipulation; you know, just like now
I can imagine that in the not too distant future people will look at how people use botox nowadays in the same light as we're looking at the Victorian era beauty trends.
Oh I’m sure there’s many things humans in the future will think us morons for. Such is the progression of humanity, technology, and science
@@HavianEla true, true
Look at Kylie Jenner 🤔
And pressurizing women to shave every inch and literally have "clean" bodies like babies. And those women who are "more hairy" and have problem shaving everyday need to do laser hair removal which is painful as hell
…..lets all be thankful that someone said ……”you know, I think these chemicals are hurting the body”
There’s plenty of information out there about corsets and stays throughout history. Let’s not promote misinformation about how “awful” corsets are when for most people it was their version of a bra. It’s getting tiring hearing this old false tune that’s been proven time again to be untrue.
agreed. super surprised and disappointed they decided to further these lies. plus the photo @5:02 is a famous victorian doctored photo. it’s not even hard to tell either. so much for being a history channel
@@neenee666 Also, better-quality corsets were reinforced with flexible whalebone rather than metal. Which is why whales were hunted to extinction.
@@ferociousgumbywe still have whales on this planet
@@Down_the_Wind yes, because whale hunting became illegal and that help the repopulation of the species...
@@erikaalexandraparrabernal2021 tell that to the Japanese. They still hunt whales and dolphins.
I would think having those eye drops would make it hard to see, that's what it did for me when I had to have my eyes dilated for an appointment. It was impossible to focus on anything inside my car, including the gauges. ...ironic, considering I drive a Focus
Thanks for the chuckle.
Great way to learn history with all of the little humorous comments to keep it fresh and fun! Another great video.
Thanks in large part to Weird History, not much surprises me anymore.
Corsetry info was false. Very few women "tight" laced. How would the everyday women do her house work if she had her corset so tight she couldn't do the simplest house work (which, at the time was not simple)?
How we ever survived the Victorian era is beyond me! 😄
We survived but the rich people didn’t, poor people couldn’t afford to keep up with these beauty standards
@@theesweetie23ca91 ..and so the rise of the poor began! 😉
@@theesweetie23ca91 Actually things became more affordable in the victorian era. There was still homelessness ofcourse but it was a period of enormous advancement and for the first time ever, people who weren't rich could afford to live in luxury and comfort. They just didn't realize the harm's yet but many everyday people were effected by Victorian life in some form. It was a very experimental period.
Man, I'm glad we don't have a pharmaceutical and cosmetics industry today that will sell you products with long term deadly side effects that they know of, because of shareholder pressure for profit.
Ikr, we’re so lucky they have our best interest at heart.
I'm so tried of 'historically accurate youtubers' calling corsets a torture device.
Exactly why, when people tell my wife and I "But everyone else does that to their daughter!!1!", we don't listen and do the right thing instead. Not everything everyone else is doing is necessarily any good.
Yeah like when people would marry their daughters off at 12 or trade them for pigs like they still do in parts of Africa. Over in the smaller villages if someone was to be raped the parents get livestock as payment then force their daughter into marriage with that person
CORSETS ARE NOT TORTURE DEVICES! If you actually took time to research them properly you would know this. Tightlacing was at its peak in the late 1800s/early 1800s, but was still very uncommon. Only tightlacing shifted your organs, not a corset in itself. Corsets are actually more comfortable than modern day bras and were used as not only an undergarment, but to support your back. Each undergarment had its purpose. I've seen historical costumers try corsets on for a week, and Bernadette Banner who even wore a back brace for years, which is in its own right a "modern day" corset, and everyone has said they are infinitely more comfortable. The thing with corsets though is they need to be made correctly and for your specific body, if not, of course they weren't comfortable; it would be like wearing the wrong size bra. I urge a channel that is supposed to tell us the "facts" to research more on the topics you include in your videos. I've loved watching your videos, but this error has now made me cautious to believe anything you say.
I want to thank your channel for first getting me into history, which taught me that learning history can be fun. Addictive, even.
How could someone dilate their eyes and still be able to function at a party with lights? (assuming using nightshade has the same after-effect as having it done at an eye appointment)
Dim lighting I guess lol
@@Giantcrabz would have to be! Damn. 😂
Carmine is still used in lipstick and other cosmetics today!
“So what do you think? Which of these dangerous beauty trends surprised you the most?” … a… all… all. All of them 😳
It’s a miracle we have survived as a species lol
Erin Parson is a make up artist and she loves vintage make up. She has a great make up channel and she actually tested some of these. Not the TB though 😂
thanks for the tip. I will check it out. I love that kind of stuff
@6:03 That Weird History video "The Deadly Trail of Arsenic Throughout the Ages" was incredible, it is hard to believe something has been such a consistent use of poison throughout the ages.
Thinking about tuberculosis makes me miss my boy Arthur 😢
hi zero hour gang!
I've just finished a 10 hour day, stopped for drinks and lunch; finally getting some rest. What is the "zero hour" you speak of, and what is that they do?
yes
I had to get tested for tuberculosis as a kid, it sucked. Turns out I just had a really bad & long lasting case of viral pneumonia which almost killed me. 😅
That arsenic green is a very lovely color though
*You need to do a video on fashion trends that were started by men that moved to women. high heels for example. I don't know why some people go crazy when a guy wears women's clothes today because they started with men in the 16th and 17th centuries*
Could you do a segment on those beetles that when crushed made a red pigment? When I was in Oaxaca, Mexico I learned about a parasite that when crushed made that color red. All those movies you've seen with Kings and important people receiving letters with a rich red wax stamp are showing you how the market for these bugs went crazy. I think it may have been Spanards who first brought it to Europe but soon this red substance was a must for the Red Stamp crowd. The elite could not get enough of it. It was from Mexico and it became more valuable than gold!! I specifically learned about it after seeing an indigo dye made from leaves. The dyes were used by native people to dye wool for very prized carpets.
These are some killer beauty secrets
Good Sunday morning from lovely Middle Tennessee it's a beautiful day here not hot yet.... love love love the Victorian Era stories it's fascinating how things progressed this Era was a huge education in all things health buisness the beginning of all sorts of industries! Appreciate the knowledge 😀 have a fantastic day yall be safe out there I do have to say that in particular the makeup the need to change how you look so deep that you will do anything to achieve it is infinite since time began humans have died for it... Victorian women were right there for it! They sacrificed there bodies and today we are all safer for it
Why do people follow trends? It must be a Trend 😑
I wonder what would Victorian ladies of fashion say, if they heard about face tattoos and ass implants?
bernadette banner released a video this week on edwardian plastic surgery, some medical texts dating back to the mid 1800's, but most of the discussion being the early 1900's. so we have an idea that, largely they'd be very shocked how plastic surgery results look now, how little has actually changed, and probably upset by some people's choices (especially BBL and buccal fat reduction). they'd probably be more ok with permanent makeup/aesthetic facial tattooing as part of cosmetic procedures. maybe.
They wouldn't like it
I'm surprised...and think, it got weird since early 80s and men piercing their ears..along with blue/green hair
So many makeup products use carmine, and I had no idea it was that toxic.
From what the video said it was the ammonia they used that made it toxic. I assume the "carmine" used nowadays uses the non toxic bugs for color but a (hopefully) less toxic replacement for the ammonia.
Sorry, what you're saying corsetss did to women really is what tightlacing did. Super uninformed and. Wrong
Ah, yeah, the Victorian era. Weird History can't get enough strange topics in that era for our entertainment.
@2:29 In the film Once Upon A Time In the West, Morton (Gabriele Ferzetti) is a railroad tycoon that is on crutches because of spinal tuberculosis.
Much of the film is a battle about ownership of the land that the railroad was going to use.
0:09 Doja Cat dressed up as Choupette, the white Burmese cat of legendary German fashion designer Karl Lagerfield.
"She kept things feline-forward, wearing prosthetics to make her face appear more cat-like." (People)
I had also read in an old book about fads that Victorian women used to drink vinegar in an effort to look "pale and interesting"! Haha!
Vinegar isn't bad for you in moderation. I give my ten year old bluetick coonhound 2 tablespoons of vinegar twice a day for three weeks every four months. He used to get bladder crystals at least once a year before that. It lowered the pH enough that they dissolve and pass before getting large enough to cause cystitis or a UTI.
Do 80s fashion.
Yes….the shoulder pads!! 😅
Putting nightsade into the eyes was common at least since the Roman Empire. The latin name of Nightshade is "Atropa belladonna" and belladonna means "beautiful woman".
TRYING to keep up with beauty trends is fatal... and I will die on that Jonah Hill.
@2:57 Some co-workers of mine at the supermarket SuperSaver used to joke that whenever someone was eating a lot but still looking skinny... that they must have a tapeworm.
Soaking in Arsenic is new to me.
The Egyptians were first to create cosmetics. They used bugs for eye shadow, khoal, for rimming their eyes. They also used berries for lips and cheek color.
They bathed in milk. Chewed on mint leaves for fresh breath.
Also, the 1st recorded music 78s were made by crushed beetles
@@kathleenking47 huh?
I knew about many of these... but arsenic baths?! What?! That one was the surprise.😮 Great info! Thank you!
Same here; Weird History and its partner Nutty History, as well as Absolute History, taught me a bunch about the ways of the Victorian era, but that one was a new one on me! I didn't know they did arsenic _baths_ back then... 😳
Corsets were not the problem.. Please stop that. It was the tight lacing ... and some of the photos used here were also modified.. Yes, victorians have their ways into "photoshopping" tiny tiny waists.. Corsets are just undergarments that worn properly are comfortable and only a small percentage of women were following dangerous trends.. just like today with plastic surgery.... In 100 years a video will say ALL women had the chest altered to a DDDD cup and that is not true.
Is that Stephen Colbert as the narrator? Sounds just like him. And the occasional comical comments are something he would improvise. If anyone knows for sure if it’s Mr. Colbert, please let me know. Thank you
I really REALLY need to emphasise what this video says about corsets is completely incorrect UNLESS you are tight lacing, which was a very very rare practice. It was seen as extreme fashion, like how we would see goth fashion. or some of those runways where the outfit looks like an inflatable pool today. Women have been wearing corsets for hundreds of years, but also wore garments like stays, which are different, used in for example the regency era. It is such a common and harmful stereotype for corsetry to be seen as "dangerous" and "unhealthy" when in actual fact, corsets were basically a bra. Obviously we know bras are used to support your breasts so you don't develop back problems etc. The same goes for corsets. Not only did they support the torso, but they became a necessity when skirts eventually got much fuller, adding your crinoline (hoop skirt) the under and over layer of skirts, and when it comes to evening wear, ruffles, bows, lace etc. making the gown a bit heavier than say, the regency dress which only required stays that were not designed to give shape, as they featured an empire waistline.
Underneath the corset would be a chemise, aka a shift, to stop the corset from rubbing on you, and because of how good quality these chemises were, they were made of fine cotton after all, would also act as a breathable layer so sweat and bacteria could be separated from the skin, making it quite hygienic. It's also important to point out how you may think what I'm saying it wrong because clearly from the photographs women took during the Victorian era, they all had tiny tiny waists. Surely they tight laced? Still no. Because padding exists. Hip pads, layers from the undergarments you wore, all helped create the illusion of a smaller waist. Also, being pregnant was not at risk when wearing a corset. In fact, pregnancy corsets existed. They were obviously designed to accommodate your belly, with adjustable features when your belly grew. Obviously the myth of corsets making you faint, is very prevalent in our modern media, but just look at photographic evidence of women doing all sorts of activities while wearing a corset, you would never be able to do if you couldn't breathe. Such as: horse riding, dancing, fencing, tennis, hiking, acrobatics, croquet, climbing trees. Not to mention, working class women who were engaging in demanding jobs like in factories, or doing the housework. Also those drawings of disrupted organs is also ridiculous, as we've already established corsets were not tightly laced, and were only laced up to where you needed support. Those are also drawings, anyone could easily make these up. There is also a theory that men (yes ik patriarchy stay with me) created myths about corsetry to lessen the freedom women had with corsets. Seeing as though they were a mainly female industry, it would be in men's interest to present these corsets as the dangerous and unhealthy undergarments we see them as today.
Please update your understanding about women’s underwear. As it still is today - most women wear what’s comfortable and supportive. Only a few women in the upper classes would tight lace. Any women who had to do a day’s work would need to move and therefore wouldn’t and couldn’t tight lace. Use your common sense!
Fun fact the fillers people put in their face never go away they move from the area injected, also people are prefect the way they born
Don’t forget to mention the “Radium Girls” that worked in the watch factory. They put radium on their teeth so they would glow in the dark. It was all the rage.. Until….😮
@0:01 A girl I used to go out with was a fashion student at Stephens College, the second oldest continuous women's college, in Columbia, Missouri.
The fashion students (some of which were also my next-door neighbors) were hardcore, and probably thought of fashion all the time.
At the end of the year, they would present their fashion designs at the fashion show on campus.
Go Stars!
@@jalapeno1119 Are you from that area?
Good lord, whoever is pulling the stock images needs fired. We're bouncing all over history midsentence. The narrator talks about the Victorian era and I've lost count of how many 1920s and 1700s images just pop up. I get trying to be relatable and cutesy, but there's relatable banter and then there's just inaccurate. Only thing weird about this history is the inaccurate videos they churn out.
Heard that. This guys voice is so good and it’s a great concept but the footage chosen is awful and as soon as you listen to a video you’re educated on you realize how poorly researched the vids are.
@6:16 In the tv series Forensic Files, there are many cases of arsenic used as a poison.
That is the gold standard of forensic science used for culturally significant cases.
The fashion historians are going to have a field day with this one
Tuberculosis attractive is the same that people who romantize having mental illness nowadays!!!
@0:37 Lyrical reference to the song "I'm Too Sexy" by Right Said Fred (1991).
In the song he is a model on the catwalk.
I have never seen more nightmare fuel 00:06-00:12
Nightshade eye drops! That gave me the willies.
I watched a show on women in prison, they make their make up out of some pretty shady stuff. Just saying 😉.
Hahahahahahah You’re too hot; here’s TB 👏🏻😤
Wow..its a miracle any women survived the victorian era 😳😳
Keep in mind the oddities we hear about most are from the upper classes. Regular women probably didn't partake of at least some of these things.
@1:44 The film Porky's (1981) is a sex comedy classic and also a college cult classic.
I forgot about Color Me Badd😂
Omg. I Wanna Sex You Up came on the radio last week, I was traveling (it gets no air time in my town). I couldn't even tell you the last time I heard it. But, I CAN tell you I owned that single on a cassette and my 48 year old self sang EVERY word.
@@elizlikethequeen lol I'm a little bit younger (42) and I had it on cassette and used to play it when my parents weren't around lol
@@monicapyle Dancing like you were doing the Lambada thinking you were fabulous is how I see this going down! That's great! I had to hide N.W.A. and 2 Live Crew. Wondering now what my Mom hid from my Grandma! 🤣🤣
@@elizlikethequeen i told my parents Marilyn Manson was a female Christian singer 😂 they believed me until they saw a music video
The music you guys are starting to use that’s synthetic while discussing history is very very off putting
Arsenic baths is what surprised me the most!
Flushed by Consumption sounds like a British 80’s pop band.
Firsttttt🎉
PLEASE! PLEASE! PLEASE! Give us an update on Season 4 of the Timeline Series!
Has there been one on socks 🧦?
You sir, won mi subcription!! Medieval Jobs please.
@1:54 Once Upon a Time in the West (1969) is considered one of the greatest westerns ever made.
The tension of the film is greatest between "Harmonica" (Charles Bronson) and Frank (Henry Fonda, who grew up in Omaha, Nebraska)
The bit on corsets is false
Looks like Sansa Stark and ugh I cannot stand Sansa 😂😂😂
Hello from Bakersfield California
A high price to pay to look ugly in attempt to look beautiful.
0:37 Since models make so much money and get so much attention, they should present stray cats at special shows and let them walk down the catwalk.
4:40, 4:41, 5:02
All of these photos have clearly been edited with “Victorian photoshop.” Basically Victorian women used paint to cover up parts they didn’t like to make it look like their waists were smaller than they really were. Also, men wore corsets too.
find it hilarious beauty standards were just as bad with false infromation about products as we do today in some of these
@0:50 Steampunk, the subgenre of science fiction, is inspired by both the Victorian Age and the "Wild West." (wikipedia)
All of it surprised me except corsets. But weren’t there some cultures that used non toxic plant based colors for makeup?
0:44 HOW?!
10:17 Except for Radium and lead, all of them!
Aahhhhhh whyyy, the badly researched corset history
I like this channel,and yogurt at Albertsons
Speaking of women in corsets and bearing children, what do you think a baby does to the organs and body? 🤔 Oh yeah that’s right the baby grows larger and temporarily displaces organs and deforms your midsection hmmm … I do understand that wearing a corset while having tuberculosis would have significant health issues. However, so would having a child inside of you! I have asthma, and I have children and I sometimes wear a corset …And while I was pregnant with my children, It was so unbearably difficult to breathe that I couldn’t even walk around because I just couldn’t get the air because they were lodged right up in my ribs all the way up until I had them. So in comparison wearing a corset, is small potatoes lol like. Absolutely nothing takes your breath like having a developing fetus, making a cozy little home inside your rib cage😂. A corset is still constricting, but not unbearable in the least lol. Furthermore, corsets in and of themselves are not the danger lacing them down to an unnatural size, would be dangerous obviously, but other than that corsets were basically just an old timey bra😂! A structural garment to hold things you know up and in. They also protected against itchy wool clothing, and were too make sure that you’re heavy skirts were not bruising your hips / rubbing the skin raw. Contrary to most “historical” TV, shows, corsets, were most definitely not worn against the bare skin. They were worn over an underlayer along with padding around the hips and bust to make their waist *LOOK* , impossibly tiny, even though it was of normal size …Because that was the fashion at the time and people did not want their corsets to get sweaty and gross,against their skin because corsets are hard to clean, and air-conditioning, had not yet been invented😂.
Nothing surprises me.😂
The fatal beauty trend of today: BBLs
I’m ready for the 2000-2009 timeline! I hope y’all drop it soon!!
The eye drops, I didn't think that there was anything else that outshone Dr Pepper tripped out.😂😂
@0:01 In 2022, for the Met Gala's theme of "Gilded Glamour," Kim Kardashian "wore the gown Marilyn Monroe wore when singing to President Kennedy in 1962." (wikipedia)
"The gown is the property of Ripley's Believe It or Not." (wikipedia).
They misspelled RUINED.
Nobody else was to EVER EVER wear that dress. The disrespect is expected from that family, yet still shocking. Absolutely disgusting. I find comfort in the fact that Marilyn's legacy will outlast any Kartrashian.
@@elizlikethequeen If other's don't remind people of the glory of a celebrity's accomplishments, that celebrity will be forgotten.
I am familiar with Marilynn, but if you go out and ask people if they know her it's likely a lot of people who don't even know who she is.
@@btetschner I definitely agree with you. I don't know how many more generations will know who Marilyn was, but I still think she wins. Even tho it doesn't matter at all in any way.
@@elizlikethequeen It kills when greats like that are forgotten, they are such legends!
Lizzie Borden and her axe 🪓 would have something to say about "fatal beauty trends from the Victorian era." 💀 🪓 💀