I would still say that's pretty secure, it caused you a fair amount of inconvenience and it made a lot of noise. More than enough to say wake you or your neighbours, most thieves look for targets of opportunity and ease and I gotta say I wouldn't fancy battling that lock without gaining unwanted attention. Fact is with monster 42" bolt cutters you'll get through pretty much anything the layman can buy with enough time and effort.
I flip houses and know a lot of other flippers. Yes, bolt cutters take out most locks, but you can also make the area around the lock less desirable. Super bright motion detector lights, with alarm systems like "Ring" or "Arlo", and you will get a push notification on your phone if they get near your lock. You can then see them and manually trigger a loud alarm. The best thing to do is to make it so difficult or painful that they move on. Of course, with Ring and Arlo you do need to have an internet connection not too far away (wireless) to use them.
I never understood why people would try to cut through the lock when it is so much easier to cut through the cheap sheet-metal carbon-steel it is often attached to. (ie: a locker, for example)
+Tim mi Maybe they want to keep the thing the lock is attached to intact (e.g. a locker in a school that has had the lock left on after the student as left the school).
That is only if they have alot of time, and nobody is watching. Crooks usually dont have that , so they have to go quick with bolt cutter. Giving a few goes with a bolt cutter is also somewhat makes less noise and commotion.
thats like saying bike thieves should cut the rack instead.. but then no one would use that rack ever again until it is fixed/replaced so it's self defeating (for the thief) they need more bikes to lock up there. with those gym style lockers i personally and simply punched the sheet metal inwards when i couldnt find my key.. they can also be leveraged open with a small crowbar .. but you dont need tools to get in those, just controlled aggression and make sure no one is around to hear you breaking in to your own locker lol
YOUR DESCRIPTION SAYS:"still very easy to breach a lock without using the ground as leverage", YET IT TAKES YOU HOW MANY MINUTES WITH HUGE-ASS BOLT-CUTTERS?? I'm amazed
Shackle. Shroud. Thought you might want to how they're spelled. I'm not doing this to be rude, I'm doing it because it's what I would want someone to do for me.
I think the idea is that once the lock is locked in place, there is no longer enough space left to fit the cutter in, unless you are referring to cutting the actual latch that he locked for the demonstration. That latch is much weaker than that lock and would be the easiest part to break or cut.
As far as i understand these pad locks are supposed to deter people from stealing your stuff, not stop them. This guy had a gnarly pair of bolt cutters and still took a couple minutes to get through it. Unless you where in a pretty secluded area someone would see you working on the lock. I think this lock performs it's task quite well.
@kokomolock Thanks! I disassembled this lock earlier and lost most of the pins and springs when I had to move, so I just use a screwdriver to open it. If i chop another, ill send it your way :)
If its a cheap generic lock, you could pick it open using something small and flat that fits on the bottom of the keyway, something like a pen cap with the metal clip. just fold in half, insert and with light finger force clockwise. Then you can jooggle the top pins up and down with a bent paperclip and if you get lucky, it will pop open. if you need the lock off fast, a cordless dremel with an abrasive disk will work.
***** people ignore everything, even power tools in a public place. There are many videos demonstrating this. It's the same as how you and i walk by a car with the alarm going off.
@@littlegoobie true, i think people are desensitised to alarms because many are false, noise because it's all the time, people in hi viz are assumed council workers etc things are ignored by association.. there's also video of angle grinder thieves in hi viz with general public walking by.. you could go to extra lengths putting up a barrier so it "looks like" legitimate work also its not wise to mess with someone holding an angle grinder its not that people don't notice.. they just don't want to notice because its generic or dont want legal liability which is right you cant blame those who ignore angle grinder use it is up to the owner anyway, after the lock is busted off, secondary security like tracking should kick in
I never understand why people do the whole 'mute' thing on videos they make. The end result is much better when you actually talk instead of all of the other weird hand and camera movements.
This is one of the smaller ones first of all. The 7045 only has an 8mm shackle. Secondly, it's BORON ALLOY, not the newer boron carbide. Third, this model has the small shoulders. Do this on the M50XD (11mm BORON CARBIDE schackle) OR 6327 (11mm Boron Alloy shackle with big iron shoulders) and get back to me. (From 6ft up, of course).
42" bolt cutters, lawl. That would cut the lock on my garage pretty easy. As matter of fact someone almost broke in with a much smaller tool, but my 9mm Glock stopped him. You're free to see how well your 42" cutter holds up against my Glock if you want.
Hello, hopefully someone replies to my comment without any harsh or irrelevant answers. So there is a place that is mostly abandoned but still no entrance allowed, there are some locks that contain some not so special materials but they have a Master Lock(from any .99c) and a few other locks. No one even remembers these boxes and we would like to obtain them. Do you think a pair of Bolt Cutters will do the trick?
What's with the vernier caliper at the end - where you seeing if the bolt croppers had squeezed the shackle to a fatter diameter, like cutting a sausage ?!
ANY Padlock can be picked,bolt cropped grinded melted you name it ,remember a padlock is a deterrent, the harder you make the padlock accessible to attack the better,
Dean Pitman There are many high end locks for commercial/industrial use that can not be picked, sawed off, cut with bolt cutters, etc. They are just crazy expensive.
Would have been easier to cut off the locking tab or whatever its called. The metal thing the lock goes through. I often see big fancy locks locking up Garages or expensive tool boxes or whatever where the big lock is stuck on something you could cut with wire cutters or tin snips.
If I wanted to get hit in the face with a broken slide, then I might consider a Beretta. When I want a gun that works no matter what, I use Glock Perfection.
Nothing is secure from hard work. The shroud doesn't make it invincible.....you sure made a heck of a lot more noise though....slows ya down, even if just a little.
funny how people still have guns in those countries, tho, lol. It is also funny that stealing is illegal in most countries, and yet they still have locks. What for? I will admit, I had waay too much fun here, tho. couldn't help myself. ;p
If you can get close enough. :p The frame, no problem, its plastic, slides and barrels are pretty tough, but with a big enough cutter, anything is possible. That is what makes this video such a joke. They guy might as well just carry a gas powered cut off saw if he is gonna haul around a cutter that big.
dumb question, I have an abus 83/80 rock, I run a shooting range, I have a lot of AR500 old steel rusted targets just collecting dust, I am not a welder but could I cut these targets up with a grinder and then weld them on to my Abus Lock, making a shroud that would be super thick, and made of hardened steel like what is on the skin of our Tanks in the US army. what do you think? any draw backs that I am not seeing?
You have rock? Drawbacks...dumb. What are you trying to lock up? Our tanks have reactive armor btw. Fail Bob. Just....fail. You did not see how to capitalize correctly. tank lower case, U.S. punctuated, lock lowercase, Army caps.
@Brute4rce Well, maybe I greatly overestimate peoples IQ, but to me that just seems as obvious as running over a soda can with a car and claiming victory. The purpose of a shrouded lock is exactly to increase the size of the cutter you need. Any competent thief would ignore that lock and break that flimsy latch. Quality latching mechanisms are quite a bit harder to find than tough locks. That is why good latches use systems like this: /watch?v=NEmyxnTuwrg But everything is breakable.
@@Kaiyats I guess bc he's gonna kick your ass an he doesn't want to give you brain damage? or maybe a bullet proof helmet because he's so hardcore he only aims for your head?
A gun owner who doesn't have his gun all the time, is a useless gun owner. Also, I was illustrating the absurdness of this video by being absurd, something most people are too thick to get, which only adds to the humor.
I'm honestly thinking of breaking into my own/ my moms storage lock thing. So this idiot guy the owner of the storage place didn't get one of the payments. Even tho we payed. So he locked up our stuff. Hes planning on auctioning all of our stuff. We to,d him over and over we have important stuff in there, like baby pictures and stuff. I'm thinking of breaking into it and getting my stuff
@@MrRobot-rq6ko He might've got shot dead from the storage owner for breaking and entering. Or he could be in jail. Anyway it went down, probably didn't end well.
The only real way to protect against cut attacks is by having a massive lock that big bolt cutters can't even start to bite into.
MtotheM no Just get an octagon shaped boron carbide master lock even if it’s small no bolt cutter can crack it
@@michealangel1556 link please? 🙏
I would still say that's pretty secure, it caused you a fair amount of inconvenience and it made a lot of noise. More than enough to say wake you or your neighbours, most thieves look for targets of opportunity and ease and I gotta say I wouldn't fancy battling that lock without gaining unwanted attention. Fact is with monster 42" bolt cutters you'll get through pretty much anything the layman can buy with enough time and effort.
not everyone parks their bikes at home, etc
3 cuts needed? That's actually quite cool.
I flip houses and know a lot of other flippers. Yes, bolt cutters take out most locks, but you can also make the area around the lock less desirable. Super bright motion detector lights, with alarm systems like "Ring" or "Arlo", and you will get a push notification on your phone if they get near your lock. You can then see them and manually trigger a loud alarm. The best thing to do is to make it so difficult or painful that they move on. Of course, with Ring and Arlo you do need to have an internet connection not too far away (wireless) to use them.
Informative. Interesting to see that the shroud cut a lot more easily than the shackle itself.
Thanks, now I had an idea how to make a lock more secure :)
3 cuts with a 42inch bolt cutter... I've gotta say, not to bad. I'm betting it would have defeated a 36in cutter.
2 cuts
I never understood why people would try to cut through the lock when it is so much easier to cut through the cheap sheet-metal carbon-steel it is often attached to. (ie: a locker, for example)
Lol u make a good point actually
I agree with you but I guess they think it would take longer...
+Tim mi Maybe they want to keep the thing the lock is attached to intact (e.g. a locker in a school that has had the lock left on after the student as left the school).
That is only if they have alot of time, and nobody is watching. Crooks usually dont have that , so they have to go quick with bolt cutter. Giving a few goes with a bolt cutter is also somewhat makes less noise and commotion.
thats like saying bike thieves should cut the rack instead.. but then no one would use that rack ever again until it is fixed/replaced so it's self defeating (for the thief) they need more bikes to lock up there.
with those gym style lockers i personally and simply punched the sheet metal inwards when i couldnt find my key.. they can also be leveraged open with a small crowbar .. but you dont need tools to get in those, just controlled aggression and make sure no one is around to hear you breaking in to your own locker lol
I think it is really dumb when I see really expensive high-security locks, lock around crappy chains that can be cut in two seconds. :).
Really, how could this possibly be done in a public place. Who carries 42in. bolt cutters in public?
YOUR DESCRIPTION SAYS:"still very easy to breach a lock without using the ground as leverage", YET IT TAKES YOU HOW MANY MINUTES WITH HUGE-ASS BOLT-CUTTERS?? I'm amazed
Have you tried the Stanley 24/7. It is the 60mm shackel shroud vertion. Much bigger shackel, much thicker schroud protection.
Wayne Winton No I have not, but that looks like a beast. I think i'll have to get one!
Yea. I have not seen one cut by bolt cutters yet.
Shackle. Shroud. Thought you might want to how they're spelled. I'm not doing this to be rude, I'm doing it because it's what I would want someone to do for me.
+Fox MacLeod hah; *know how*, I meant to say.
what a freakshow..
Boron alloy would be hard to hacksaw through, but its brittle enough for bolt cutters to break as you demonstrated.
I think the idea is that once the lock is locked in place, there is no longer enough space left to fit the cutter in, unless you are referring to cutting the actual latch that he locked for the demonstration.
That latch is much weaker than that lock and would be the easiest part to break or cut.
That took you about 4 min, and in the mean time every dog in the alley is raising Hell and I'm reaching for my 9mm Glock with the 30 round clip !
Don Townsend I don't live in an alley. no dogs either .
3a.m., you dead asleep, snorin away. You'd never hear a thing.
Don your name is Don I can tell you are a pussy who wouldn't fight and I bet you don't even have a gun because your name is Don
As far as i understand these pad locks are supposed to deter people from stealing your stuff, not stop them. This guy had a gnarly pair of bolt cutters and still took a couple minutes to get through it. Unless you where in a pretty secluded area someone would see you working on the lock. I think this lock performs it's task quite well.
@kokomolock Thanks! I disassembled this lock earlier and lost most of the pins and springs when I had to move, so I just use a screwdriver to open it. If i chop another, ill send it your way :)
If its a cheap generic lock, you could pick it open using something small and flat that fits on the bottom of the keyway, something like a pen cap with the metal clip. just fold in half, insert and with light finger force clockwise. Then you can jooggle the top pins up and down with a bent paperclip and if you get lucky, it will pop open. if you need the lock off fast, a cordless dremel with an abrasive disk will work.
cordless angle grinder for the win-effortless.
And very very very loud
***** people ignore everything, even power tools in a public place. There are many videos demonstrating this. It's the same as how you and i walk by a car with the alarm going off.
@@littlegoobie true, i think people are desensitised to alarms because many are false, noise because it's all the time, people in hi viz are assumed council workers etc things are ignored by association.. there's also video of angle grinder thieves in hi viz with general public walking by.. you could go to extra lengths putting up a barrier so it "looks like" legitimate work
also its not wise to mess with someone holding an angle grinder
its not that people don't notice.. they just don't want to notice because its generic or dont want legal liability which is right you cant blame those who ignore angle grinder use
it is up to the owner anyway, after the lock is busted off, secondary security like tracking should kick in
Nice video
supreme bolt cutters
I never understand why people do the whole 'mute' thing on videos they make. The end result is much better when you actually talk instead of all of the other weird hand and camera movements.
@Brute4rce Thanks!! If ya ever want to learn to pick, if you don't already know how, let me know!!! Masters are very easy to pick open!!
A Ruger GP100 works no matter what too. But then again, most double action revolvers usually do. Not much that can go wrong there.
Great video man!!!! You should send me the locks after you cut them so I can pick them!!!!
This is one of the smaller ones first of all. The 7045 only has an 8mm shackle. Secondly, it's BORON ALLOY, not the newer boron carbide. Third, this model has the small shoulders.
Do this on the M50XD (11mm BORON CARBIDE schackle) OR 6327 (11mm Boron Alloy shackle with big iron shoulders) and get back to me. (From 6ft up, of course).
Easier to cut the mild steel hasp! Just a thought! If I was trying to pinch something thats what I would do!
you would be much faster using that cutters as a ramming device.
it took you more than 2 minutes with a 42" cutters, thats a good lock.
42" bolt cutters, lawl. That would cut the lock on my garage pretty easy. As matter of fact someone almost broke in with a much smaller tool, but my 9mm Glock stopped him.
You're free to see how well your 42" cutter holds up against my Glock if you want.
Hello, hopefully someone replies to my comment without any harsh or irrelevant answers. So there is a place that is mostly abandoned but still no entrance allowed, there are some locks that contain some not so special materials but they have a Master Lock(from any .99c) and a few other locks. No one even remembers these boxes and we would like to obtain them. Do you think a pair of Bolt Cutters will do the trick?
yes
That is why I carry a .357 magnum now. ;)
However, since you are giving me a heads up, I'll load up my .50 AE just for you. ;p
Get a lithium battery powered angle grinder and a diamond grit cutting disc. Goes through everything. Carry extra cutting discs.
What's with the vernier caliper at the end - where you seeing if the bolt croppers had squeezed the shackle to a fatter diameter, like cutting a sausage ?!
ANY Padlock can be picked,bolt cropped grinded melted you name it ,remember a padlock is a deterrent, the harder you make the padlock accessible to attack the better,
Dean Pitman There are many high end locks for commercial/industrial use that can not be picked, sawed off, cut with bolt cutters, etc. They are just crazy expensive.
well that there's a pretty small looking lock. i'm not surprised. next time use one of those locks little girls put on their diary.
Would have been easier to cut off the locking tab or whatever its called. The metal thing the lock goes through. I often see big fancy locks locking up Garages or expensive tool boxes or whatever where the big lock is stuck on something you could cut with wire cutters or tin snips.
wont contacting the uhaul storage reps with your info and ids get it open for you?
super fantastic
Rake the lock pins, faster and quiet.
wrong
hi I know right it's a master....😒
Scully B. Kracken no it's right, you can do it with just a bamboo skewer. Masterlocks are shit and so are you, fucking failure at life.
So, is there anyway to defeat the bolt cutter?
Why not just cut the thin piece of metal the lock is attached to ? (If the cutters are small enough)
Nice work!
It took more time to free the lock after you cut it then the cut itself
nothing can stand before a 42 inch knipex. it's the closest you can get to carrying a lightsaber around :)
Thats easy for sure for 8mm shackle, try that atleast in abloy 362 pls.
If I wanted to get hit in the face with a broken slide, then I might consider a Beretta. When I want a gun that works no matter what, I use Glock Perfection.
Can you suggest a better lock? Against this type of attack? Thank you
which is the best lock that bolter cutters doesn't allow to cut?
great videos, but what type of lock do you think would be best for an enclosed cargo type trailer
how to use it? i got a bolt cutter but it doesnt seem like it can cut locks..
So you need a huge pair of bolt cutters to cut a 15 ounce lock? Than the lock serves the purpose of a deterrent.
Nothing is secure from hard work. The shroud doesn't make it invincible.....you sure made a heck of a lot more noise though....slows ya down, even if just a little.
Just stick a bar in the shackle and twist the whole latch off the gate/door... Way easier, quieter and faster.
my parents garden shed was broken into. all they did was lever off the hasp from the door.
So he's like 7 plus feet tall ten because his shoulders are at the same height of the lock I call bs that its at 6' off the ground
funny how people still have guns in those countries, tho, lol.
It is also funny that stealing is illegal in most countries, and yet they still have locks. What for?
I will admit, I had waay too much fun here, tho. couldn't help myself. ;p
Why not cut the latch instead of the lock
Will this work on a school locker where the shrouded lock is located where the handle is?
Just as long as the handle hole is bigger than the shackle, I think it should work just fine.
They may not work completely but they sure as hell slow you down, force you to make a lot of noise.
Add some motion cameras, a few dogs, and an AR15 and I'd say you have a decent security system.
Pfft, .50AE is just a expensive nail gun.
BOLT CUTTERS YEAH
can you suggest something better thats within a similar or at least reasonable price range?
oODeadlikemeOo Yes! I would recommend the Brinks 60mm Boron padlock. Very hard to pick and 17,000 lbs cut resistance.
thanks!
Brute4rce cheers
If you can get close enough. :p
The frame, no problem, its plastic, slides and barrels are pretty tough, but with a big enough cutter, anything is possible.
That is what makes this video such a joke. They guy might as well just carry a gas powered cut off saw if he is gonna haul around a cutter that big.
Not to mention the fact he has to make 3 cuts, each one making a lot of noise!
Try to cut american secure lock with this tool, please...
great camera work there bud! here's a tip...... if you wanna make your own video ,don't stand Infront of the camera bahahaha
Wow that's allota work.
almost no lock is inpenetrable, there just there to buy time.
Running Nigerian yes octagon shaped locks are extremely strong no bolt cutter can crack them
you had some trouble with that one buddy.
What typeof Bolt cutter is that and how much was it with tax and from what store name ?.
www.harborfreight.com/42-in-bolt-cutters-61321.html I purchased them years ago, and they are still cutting
Now try that in abloy 362 or squire
dumb question, I have an abus 83/80 rock, I run a shooting range, I have a lot of AR500 old steel rusted targets just collecting dust, I am not a welder but could I cut these targets up with a grinder and then weld them on to my Abus Lock, making a shroud that would be super thick, and made of hardened steel like what is on the skin of our Tanks in the US army. what do you think? any draw backs that I am not seeing?
Superheating removes hardness.
+John Morton he said grinding them. Idk though. That seems like a job not really worth doing, but if you want to, go ahead.
Ask Ketchum He said "Weld them on" lol.
Make something like this, no permanent attachment to the lock required
au.pinterest.com/pin/370069294357779413/
You have rock? Drawbacks...dumb. What are you trying to lock up? Our tanks have reactive armor btw. Fail Bob. Just....fail. You did not see how to capitalize correctly. tank lower case, U.S. punctuated, lock lowercase, Army caps.
@l337pwnage What if you're not at home or in vacation? How fast does your local police or security personnel can respond?
Where can i buy the bigest bolt cuter in mexicali
Make it out of aermet 100. That might put up a fight
Try to cut an Abloy 362.
Your camera had bad lighting. I never saw the thickness of the shackle you measured.
0.308 inches, and yeah I had a terrible camera back then..
@l337pwnage That was a good idea, thanks! I'll try using dragon's breath. I'm not a thief by the way.
A shrouded lock might be, but is a master really a lock
I lucchetti master sono di buona qualità?
this took you awhile, what was the point!
should have bought an Abloy pl342
And yeah, whats the size of that bolt cutter?
42 inch
Abloy 362.........Abloy 1062, 4 1/2" angle grinder will remove it just fine!!
@Brute4rce Well, maybe I greatly overestimate peoples IQ, but to me that just seems as obvious as running over a soda can with a car and claiming victory.
The purpose of a shrouded lock is exactly to increase the size of the cutter you need.
Any competent thief would ignore that lock and break that flimsy latch. Quality latching mechanisms are quite a bit harder to find than tough locks.
That is why good latches use systems like this:
/watch?v=NEmyxnTuwrg
But everything is breakable.
Try an Abloy 362
easy there wolverine
I just leave the key attached to my lock. with a small tag that reads, wear a helmet ;)
Mr. J I don’t get it
@@Kaiyats I guess bc he's gonna kick your ass an he doesn't want to give you brain damage? or maybe a bullet proof helmet because he's so hardcore he only aims for your head?
That's the front of an ammo can.
At the end of the day, brute force always wins.
ahahaha good joke
@l337pwnage Easy there keyboard warrior, I am not after your goodies. I am Just trying to educate people about the security ratings on locks.
you just made breakin stuff boring, well done
maybe hack saw resistant
A gun owner who doesn't have his gun all the time, is a useless gun owner.
Also, I was illustrating the absurdness of this video by being absurd, something most people are too thick to get, which only adds to the humor.
Try an abus rock 83 stuffed full of pewag 13mm
Both can be bolt cropped
I'm honestly thinking of breaking into my own/ my moms storage lock thing. So this idiot guy the owner of the storage place didn't get one of the payments. Even tho we payed. So he locked up our stuff. Hes planning on auctioning all of our stuff. We to,d him over and over we have important stuff in there, like baby pictures and stuff. I'm thinking of breaking into it and getting my stuff
Austin G how'd it go
@@MrRobot-rq6ko He might've got shot dead from the storage owner for breaking and entering. Or he could be in jail. Anyway it went down, probably didn't end well.
why would you announce such a thing on a public website? RIP
his comment from 3 years ago.. i agree it's unlikely it went to plan.. he's either in the slammer (prison) or up in the clouds with the angels lol
Yo five years. You get outta jail yet?
Search almax chains....
Is it possible to do that to an abloy pl362?
No way, that abloy has 15mm shackle
I would have just jumped the fence!
looks like the bolt cutters won!
Vai dam koto
omg so cool it too 11 seconds