Vet Reacts *The Legend Of A Glorious Name* Devil Dogs - U.S. Marines -Sabaton History 023 [Official]
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My dad flew F-4s in VMFA-212, Marine, and little known fact, a Marine is always a rifleman and even pilots are trained to lead platoons in the field. Belleau Wood and Chesty Puller will always live on
Dan Daly was a fucking badass, two medals of honor almost three. The world shittiest lottery ticket for a bank robber. Made many member of the righteous and harmonius fist more holy. Went to the bottom of a river to recover a machine-gun, the ammunition, the tripod and carry it back to his men by himself. He is literally the most badass marine I have heard of.
He was robbed of his third Medal of Honor, damn You Politicians.
Ah, a fellow Fat Electrician connoissuer I see
@twohorsesinamancostume7606 I wonder if he'll make a video about either Albert rosche, aka the first soldier of France. Or Adrian carton, aka the unkillable soldier. Or the third famous Finnish dude, anti communism in flesh, the soldier of three armies, Lauri Torni.
Marine Corps birthday is not far away, so Happy Early Birthday Devil Dogs
" Retreat ? Hell we just got here " my favorite quote from WW-1
Love how people think Marines are stupid, often referring to them as crayon eaters, they are some of the most creative people you’ll meet. I believe their creativity comes from all the crayons they consume lol
The marine I know is the one who jokes about crayon eating
all the brain power is saved for combat. The marine brain goes into hibernation when not in combat. The marine brain is activated by the phrase "fix bayonets".
I think that stereotype got started because they initially didn't require a high school diploma to join. They do now, but that wasn't always the case even when other branches *did.*
@@brigidtheirish oh that's an interesting idea. I hadn't thought of that
@@AmericansLearn Yeah. And it's near impossible to do research on it because Google brings up a bunch of stuff about combating bigotry in the military or saying what the *current* enlistment requirements are.
Hi kit. Dan won 2 Medal of Honors in previous wars. Yet the bigwigs denied him a 3rd in ww1. Then made a law stating on 1 MoH per soldier…though they did award him A distinguish service cross,the navy cross and a silver star.
Sorry just watched the fat electricians video on Dan Daly…I’m a little miffed that he was denied a 3rd.
They have another (cover) song about the marines (in Vietnam). About the big Marine named "Camouflage" (a Stan Ridgeway cover).
The deadliest weapon in the world is a MARINE and his rifle!
Gen John Black Jack Pershing
The irony is that "Black Jack" Pershing had serious issues with the USMC.
differance between Army and Marines is the army takes weeks of discussion to deploy and requires Democrats and Republicans to agree on something the marines can be deployed ASAP and can be on any countries doorstep anywhere between an hour and three days depending on who decided to fuck around and find out.
Am I the only one a tiny bit bummed out that every time Indy said "Blucher", a horse did not whinny afterwards.😉😁
A great reaction, sir, of a great collaboration between Indy Nidell's documentary group and Sabaton.
Always trust in the Green Monster.
The Dan Daly video by the fat electrician is pretty good.
Just to add to what indi said
Around 1918, artist Charles B. Falls created a recruiting poster that was emblazoned with the words "Teufel Hunden, German Nickname for U.S. Marines - Devil Dog Recruiting Station."
The poster is one of the earliest known references to this phrase in relation to the U.S. Marines. You may have heard stories about how German soldiers nicknamed the U.S. Marines "devil dogs," and even today, you can still find this World War I tale used online in Marine Corps recruitment. But the poster commits the same error that almost all versions of the legend do: It gets the German wrong.
So is the story true?
Follow the Grammar
The first thing any good student of German should notice about the poster is that the German word for devil dogs is misspelled. In German, the term would not be two words, but one. Also, the plural of Hund is Hunde, not Hunden. The poster and any Marine references to the German nickname should read "Teufelshunde" - one word with a connecting s.
Many online references spell the German wrong in one way or another. The Marine Corps' own website spells it wrong, in references to so-called Devil Dog challenge in 2016. At one point, even the Marine Corps' own Parris Island Museum has it wrong. The sign on display there read "Teuelhunden," missing the f and s. Other accounts omit proper capitalization.
Details like these make some historians wonder if the story itself is true. One thing we can state with certainty is that few historical accounts of the devil dogs legend get the German right.
Pronunciation Key
der Teufel (dare TOY-fel): devil
der Hund (dare HOONT): dog
die Teufelshunde (dee TOY-fels-HOON-duh): the devil dogs
The Legend
Although the spelling is inconsistent, the devil dogs legend is specific in some ways. It is related to a particular battle, a particular regiment, and a particular place.
As one version explains, in World War I during the 1918 Château-Thierry campaign near the French village of Bouresches, Marines assaulted a line of German machine-guns nests on an old hunting preserve known as Belleau Wood. The Marines who were not killed captured the nests in a tough fight. The Germans nicknamed those marines devil dogs.
Heritage Press International (usmcpress.com) says the shocked Germans coined it as a "term of respect" for the U.S. Marines, a reference to the ferocious mountain dogs of Bavarian folklore.
"... the Marines attacked and swept the Germans back out of Belleau Wood. Paris had been saved. The tide of war had turned. Five months later Germany would be forced to accept an armistice," Heritage Press's website states.
Did the devil dogs legend actually come about because German soldiers compared the Marines to "wild mountain dogs of Bavarian folklore?"
H.L. Mencken's Take
The American writer, H.L. Mencken, didn't think so. In "The American Language" (1921), Mencken comments on the Teufelshunde term in a footnote: "This is army slang, but promises to survive. The Germans, during the war, had no opprobrious nicknames for their foes. The French were usually simply die Franzosen, the English were die Engländer, and so on, even when most violently abused. Even der Yankee was rare. Teufelhunde (devil-dogs), for the American marines, was invented by an American correspondent; the Germans never used it.
A Look at Gibbons
The correspondent that Mencken refers to was journalist Floyd Phillips Gibbons (1887-1939), of the Chicago Tribune. Gibbons, a war correspondent embedded with the Marines, had his eye shot out while covering the battle at Belleau Wood. He also wrote several books about World War I, including "And They Thought We Wouldn't Fight" (1918) and a biography of the flying Red Baron.
So did Gibbons embellish his reporting with a made-up devil dogs legend, or was he reporting actual facts?
Not all the American stories of the word's origin agree with each other. One account claims that the term came from a statement attributed to the German High Command, who supposedly asked, "Wer sind diese Teufelshunde?" That means, "Who are these devil dogs?" Another version claims that it was a German pilot who cursed the Marines with the word.
Historians cannot agree on a single root of the phrase, and it's also unclear how Gibbons learned about the phrase -or whether he made it up himself. A previous search in the archives of the Chicago Tribune couldn't even pull up the actual news article in which Gibbons is alleged to have first mentioned the "Teufelshunde" tale.
Which brings up Gibbons himself. He was reputed to be a flamboyant character. His biography of Baron von Richthofen, the so-called Red Baron, was not entirely accurate, making him appear to be a totally reprehensible, blood-thirsty aviator, rather than the more complex person portrayed in more recent biographies. Of course, that's not proof that this means he made up the Teufelshunde tale, but it does make some historians wonder.
There's yet another factor that could cast doubt on the devil dogs legend. The Marines were not the only troops involved in combat in France's Belleau Wood in 1918. In fact, there was an intense rivalry between the regular U.S. Army troops and the Marines stationed in France.
Some reports say that Belleau itself wasn't captured by the Marines, but by the Army's 26th Division three weeks later. This makes some historians question why the Germans would have called the Marines devil dogs, rather than the Army troops who fought in the same area.
NEXT > Black Jack Pershing
General John ("Black Jack") Pershing, the commander of the American Expeditionary Forces, was known to be upset about the Marines getting all the publicity - mostly from Gibbons' dispatches - during the battle of Belleau Wood. (Pershing's counterpart was the German General Erich Ludendorff.) Pershing had a strict policy that no specific units were to be mentioned in reporting on the war.
But Gibbons' dispatches glorifying the Marines had been released without any of the usual Army censorship. This may have happened because of sympathy for the reporter who was thought to be fatally wounded at the time his reports were to be sent off. Gibbons "had handed his earlier dispatches to a friend prior to his jumping off in the attack." (This comes from "Floyd Gibbons in the Belleau Woods" by Dick Culver.)
Another account at FirstWorldWar.com adds this: "Fiercely defended by the Germans, the wood was first taken by the Marines (and Third Infantry Brigade), then ceded back to the Germans - and again taken by the U.S. forces a total of six times before the Germans were finally expelled."
Reports like this note the Marines certainly did play a vital role in this battle - part of the offensive known as the Kaiserschlacht or "Kaiser's Battle" in German - but not the only one.
German Records
To prove that the term came from Germans and not a U.S. journalist or some other source, it would be useful to find some record of the German term actually being used in Europe, either in a German newspaper (unlikely for the home front for morale reasons) or in official documents. Even pages in a German soldier's diary.
Not one piece if German evidence exists soldiers wrote everything down.
I love history and removing misconceptions is important im just pointing out that US Marines bad ass may not have actually have the badass origins as everyone has been lead to believe even the marines themselves.
Thanks for the in depth history lesson! And also the etymology lesson. Word and phrase origins are fascinating, especially when there is a lot of confusion about the ACTUAL origin of the word/phrase
@AmericansLearn Please don't think I'm bashing the Marines I love those guys just sometimes there's alot of misconceptions that become truth and there alot if "myths" like this that are not starting to be re-analysised but like they say every myth or legend has some truth to it right
The term Devil Dogs was also in a unsigned story on the site that was printed in 100+ US newspapers 6 weeks before Belleau Wood. If you Google it you can see the actual wire story & read it for yourself.🙂
I walked Belleau Wood 20 years ago. You could still see where foxholes and machine gun puts had been. It's small, but it's heavy to see.
The only servicemen Marines love more than other Marines were the Navy Corps Man. "Dont touch the Doc"
Never screw with the white mage.
@@nathanaelhavlik4293 dende was a G in dbza
Less than 50 miles then the Marines come! Loose the Devil Dogs and watch the Germans run!
Yup 1926 Devil Dogs cakes.
There are 3 other songs dedicated to the corps the warrior song hard corps
Trace Adkins Semper Fi
Toby Keith call a marine
WW1 Belleau Woods the marines with gasmask's on charging the Germans who said they looked like Devil Dogs the name has stuck to this day. Peace out.
So Kit, as a marine, what is up with the term ‘soldier’ and its use for marines? I’ve heard that marines don’t like the term but I’ve never fully understood why. I’m also curious about your opinion on its use in the song here.
Thanks from a mostly clueless civilian with an army grandpa
Marine just means "soldier from the sea."
Probably because the *army* are called soldiers. They don't want people mixing them up.
Hey Kit have you seen all the comments on your recent Eastory reaction video?
With all due respect to you and the United States Marines, as a patriotic British man it's the Royal Marine Commando's that are top dog. BRITISH SABATON FAN 💂♂️💂♂️💂♂️💂♂️🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🏴🏴🏴🏴💙💛🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦 by the way mate why did you put English subtitles on when it's a lyric video where the words are already on the Sabaton video, many Americans do this and it baffles us British and many European's that speak English. I am a huge Sabaton fan and I am British also I don't need subtitles as I completely understand everything that Joakim says or sings so I don't need subtitles unless he is speaking or singing in his Native language Swedish. I have been to Sweden and I understood everything that a Swedish said to me in English. Infact I have been to many countries in Europe and if a citizen in any country speaks to me in English I understand everything that they say. I have seen American's on RUclips watching a video with an English person speaking there Native language English and American's have English subtitles on. Those Americans are to us weired and are not very bright plus very disrespectful to the United Kingdom and us British who are your Allies and that America needs in a time of war today. If American's can't understand us British then god help our UK Armed Forces.
Thing is Americans should be making this music. I love Sabaton, but all nations need a Sabaton band, they can't cover everything. Leave it to the Swedes to create music. Oh wait they wrote The entire Brittney catalogue, Nsync, Backstreet boys, Taylor Swift etc. whoops
Swedish marines artillery salute 🫡
Dan Daly should have 3.
Rah
First comment!Love your reactions to Sabaton
I didn't hear enough Uraah
Thank you for your service. 🫡🫡🫡 to you sir