Imagine, Christ knew the old testament intimately. From a very early age. At what age did he know he was going to the cross? I would imagine he was 11 or 12. Each year he would go up to Jerusalem for the feasts. Each year he would pass by the thieves and murderers hanging on their crosses. It was ever in his face. The fear that must have gripped him in the garden where the first Adam failed the test. Now the bill has come do. He knew from childhood what he must suffer. How much he must love us.
I can forgive people without torturing my beloved. Easy, you just forgive. It's a disgusting idea that innocent have to suffer before you forgive their oppressors.
It is obvious that Christ unfortunately had to suffer- both the God and the man had to go through it, both to 'understand it' (not just theoretically, but with the flesh), and to be able to be spiritually 'authorised' to relieve the suffering of all of us. His story provides comfort during times of trial, exactly because he got down there in the trenches with us, and despite all that, he managed to reach the lowest point (torture, humiliation, betrayal and death), but rise again to eternal life.
@@colinriches1519 He didnt do it for Himself, but to lead by example. It does not matter how good or powerful He is, nobody would follow him if he never went through the same (and worse) suffering that we do.
1 John 3: 8 He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil.
Literally 50 seconds in and I am already receiving value from what he is saying. I do not know him personally (like most of us) yet I have such a respect and a love for him as a fellow human.
@@outsidechambaz yep that's all the ALLPOWERFULL GOD ALLMIGHTY HALLUYAH KING OF KINGS LORD OF LORDS EVERLASTING KING GOD JAHOVA ALLMIGHTY would create just a bunch of simpleton not a ALLPOWERFULL society of super geniuses no no just a bunch of dirty sinners ha
Word salad and a lot of non sense. Many times he sounds like a quack Deepak Chopra. Sam Harris tried to catch JP words and make him explain himself. He did terribly. Hitchens was much better at language and much smarter when it comes to religious nonsense this boomer preaches. Pathetic. I don't get how you can be impressed :o
One thing I always think about when it comes to the passion is how Jesus and God the Father both must have suffered in a way that isn’t able to be imagined. If they are all good, which they are, then something like spite and bitterness wouldn’t even occur to them. But spite and bitterness are ways in which we often deal with our suffering. It’s cathartic to hate what is hurting you, it helps ease the pain a bit. Which means God and Jesus suffered perfectly, without an ounce of hatred or bitterness or vengeance to sooth them as they witnessed the most tragic thing possible. To be honest it makes the whole thing that much worse, but that much more beautiful I think.
Correct me if you disagree, but as far as I can comprehend, you can't be omnipotent/omniscient/omnipresent AND innocent/ignorant to the concept of malevolence. Assuming that the linear, dualistic conception of the "source" or "god" that has manifested throughout various religions and practices across the world throughout human history is accurate, then the source of all creation created both good and evil. Where else could it come from? As above so below, right? But like I said, please correct me if you have some deeper insight than I do.
@@nellkellino-miller7673there is a interesting way to answer that, Saint Augustin was a catholic bishop that pondered a lot about the nature of evil, and the answer he came up with is that in reality evil is like cold or darkness, were it isn't something, but rather the lack of something, just like how cold doesn't exist its just the absence of heat, or darkness is the absence of light, evil is the absence of good, which would mean that God couldn't be evil, because If he was then it would mean he is lacking in something rather than being perfect, i am not super knowledgeable on Augustin and his teachings so you could search him up If you want to find a more deep and fulll explanation his ideas on the nature of evil
How “recent” do you think sex, money and drugs are? This was my earlier point on a different thread. Jordan Peterson sounds good to people who don’t read. When you expand your knowledge you realize that Peterson is saying nothing original. He’s obviously intelligent and eloquent. These ideas have been around since the beginning of human history. He just presents them nicely on RUclips. Sex, drugs and money have been a philosophical issue since Socrates, Plato and Aristotle 2000 years ago.
@@krisweaver7524 You forgot to mention the philosophical Line it actually follows from first, which is Epicurus line. What I implied is that the culture is very biologized/animalized (YOLO culture), which J.P. actually himself partially helped become too, through never ending affirmations of "evolutionary biology" that humans are animals and how our lower nature is there the way it is and how many times we can't help it but adhere to it rather than to higher values. Also another reason is that west philosophically almost completely rejects christian/monotheist metaphysics, so all you are left with is scientism type metaphysics where everything there is, is exact material objects, laws of physics and biological evolution.
One thing I think is missed in the story, is that Jesus didn't do it for himself. It was not a sacrifice for himself, it was so others would be condemned to eternal suffering or death
Jesus Christ died so that mankind may be saved. Whoever believed onto Jesus, faith in Jesus, shall have eternal life. Jesus Christ took upon sin, all sin, past, present, future. Sin was imputed onto Him. He who knew no sin, became sin. And God, in his justice, crushed and killed His Only begotten Son under the full force of His wrath. Isaiah 53:10 Yet it was the LORD’s will to crush Him and to cause Him to suffer; and when His soul is made a guilt offering, He will see His offspring, He will prolong His days, and the good pleasure of the LORD will prosper in His hand. God carried out justice. And because He is a good God, He punished the one who bore our sins. He took our place. The sacrificial lamb. Jesus Christ has every right to say in John 14:6 “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.” Whenever you hear people ask about “why is Jesus is the only way? “ or “You’re so close minded to think Jesus is the only way.” In no other religion or faith, talks about God taking form of a man and died for his people. For all the sins of man and to die for them all. John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. So it makes sense for people that do not believe in Jesus Christ to be condemned to hell or as you say ethereal suffering or death. John 3:18 Whoever believes in Him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe has already been condemned, because he has not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.
@@damiandmerri2536 the thing is it is real and the scary thing is there is a silent invisible spiritual war being waged against mankind by Satan but hope is in Jesus🌍🌏🌎✝️🔥👑🙂
I've just recently happened to come across Dr Jordan Peterson videos . I love how his mind works and he speaks from a wisdom that can only be of God . It speaks to the very core of our souls . In this video he could be speaking literally of my life and the depths of suffering I've endured . Especially when it's not just one snake but a knock on effect that affected a few generations . I've only been a Christian for nearly 22 years of my nearly 56 years .I've know suffering that has had others say this is too much how did I survive and overcome it . It's only as a Christian do I understand the purpose of my pain and suffering . That yes in this world we will suffer because it's a broken marred world . That in the end all the suffering I've endured isn't forever but the rewards of this are eternal in Christ . I'm a living example of walking in God's healing .
I am a Christian, and I, too, have suffered in my life, though not nearly as much as some. I see that my suffering has made me wise, and I've tried to become a better person, but I do say to God sometimes, "Am I wise enough yet? Can I rest for a while?" It's a question I'm not sure I want the answer to. But all I can do is pray that God gives me strength when my own fails.
@@darthimperious1594 Life is precious and it's not about being wiser . No point being wise in one's own eyes . Try and make the best of each day . I've learnt that after the huge traumas I've been through I've met others who I consider have overcome more . It was only in Christ did I understand the generational curses that come down our family blood line . The Bible says that the life is in the blood . Throughout the Bible there's stories for us to look at . You ask for wisdom but then read about king Solomon He was a young boy when crowned king . He asked for wisdom and that pleased God . What did his wisdom afford him . He was a king who in his life time saw that much peace he went on an adventure to find out the meaning of life . He disregarded any warnings and bought in forgien women . He was a man so spoilt that he didn't forsee his down fall . I believe we have wisdom that comes from experience and wisdom that is of God . In proverbs it gives great advice on how one should build their life . It applies to the here and now because it's an example just like the many people of the Bible lives are there . We are a blessed generation because now more than any time knowledge is spreading . What knowledge we take in matters because life is a one off exam and time is ticking away . Focus not on the suffering because in Christ we know if it happened to God's only son it will surely happen to us . I live with a grateful heart because I know where I've been hurt bruised and battered Jesus healed those areas and His power works through us all to help others the same . I've seen more miracles and supernatural power at work in past 22 years . I can see from birth to now how hard the devil's tried to take my life I was disowned by my Muslim family and God called me by name . I was 20 when I had no where to go it's only by God's grace I'm alive . Trust me I tired ending it few times . It's not mine to take . God shoock me up I heard Him say that even if I was on life support because of my selfish acts He will fulfill His purpose on my life . I learnt the hard way so I can help any that come my way . I'm soo sorry you've suffered and I hope and pray you feel the peace of Christ deeply in your heart . May He guide you and make you sensitive to His presence . Those who are called are His . He who promises is true He cannot lie He isn't like us men that He change His mind . He doesn't make mistakes and stand firm and proud knowing that it is a huge privilege to have suffered in this world . I'd live over and over again for the short 70 to 90 years of suffering for the forever Eternity . Keep your eyes fixed on the perfector of our faith . Till we meet in eternity God bless you .
Jordan, stop embarrassing yourself. Christian theology 101 teaches all men are BORN with Satan "in their heart" and, therefore, MUST be "born again" by the indwelling Holy Spirit of God. You are becoming a two-bit con Jordan. Show more class and stop pretending there is no difference from your secular mind and the spiritual mind of a regenerated person.
@@darthimperious1594 Jordan, stop embarrassing yourself. Christian theology 101 teaches all men are BORN with Satan "in their heart" and, therefore, MUST be "born again" by the indwelling Holy Spirit of God. You are becoming a two-bit con Jordan. Show more class and stop pretending there is no difference from your secular mind and the spiritual mind of a regenerated person.
Yes wisdom is from God and He gives it to us when we ask Him for it. Compassionate empathy comes from the suffering and pruning we endure as we turn to God's comfort in our sufferings then we too can begin to have the compassionate comfort to comfort others well in their sufferings.
Was a snake in your heart a thing they used to say? Also, I like the way Jordan speaks about the bible - recognising it for the allegory and metaphor that it is, and not a fact book. This is how you can find value in it, while remaining agnostic (well for me anyway)
Really starting to like Jordan Peterson: initially I thought he was a gatekeeper and deceptive person, but now I see that he bridges 'humanity' and empathy with practical spiritual philosophy of the kind which is in context of Christianity's essence, often further fleshing out the debate of morality and its application, on multiple levels of understanding, in relation to all people.
@@germaniatv1870 he's not spiritually a Christian, but arguably what is called a "culture Christian". Peterson's lectures on the Bible (available on RUclips) are exquisite.
@@vibovitold Transhumanismus : Pfarrer Hans Milch 1979, Germany. If you understand German, this s want you would want to listen to. Real German Christian Philosophy: ruclips.net/video/_4fenrEydEA/видео.html
The Meek….There is none righteous, no not one. By the way it’s not necessarily an endorsement. He’s telling us that unless we fight for our faith, we will not see heaven but we will be confined to live on the new earth.
@Jay Gee lol your comment got deleted. Censorship at it's finest. But I still got the notification. Good answer! But your question is bad. "Why do you believe" is presumptuous. You should have asked me "Do you believe," like how I did with you.
Does Peterson believe that Satan actually exists or does he act as if he does? Just like he says he doesn't know if God exists but acts as if he does. How people fall for this contradictory bull shot I'll never know.
@Jo El I love how people like you bend yourself backwards in order to make excuses for Peterson. It's always hilsrious. Please don't delete your comment because I want other people to see it. Please stay the same. Don't change.
A health crisis can definitely produce more compassion in the person afflicted. It happened to me after my heart transplant! Of course, not everyone who experiences health issues learns from them. But, as the saying goes, lessons will be repeated until learned.
Maybe your donor heart was used to compassion…. Had you considered hearts have neurons? I heard a story about a little girl who was given a heart from a boy who had loved football; during her recovery she developed a love of football… I’m happy that your incredible life saving operation is a success, and that you are discovering such a beautiful facet of human nature, which is truly a gift from God. ❤️🙏
@@MsDormy - Thanks for your support! I often get asked if I have experienced anything unusual as a result of getting a new heart, to which I almost sadly reply "not that I'm aware of." (Although I do seem to be a bit more obsessive than the perfectionist I was before...) The HeartMath Institute makes the case that the heart is like a second brain (speaking of neurons), and I eventually did become aware of missing some of my emotional memories as a result of no longer having my old heart. It seems the expression "a broken heart" is not just figurative, it's literal. As the seat of our emotions, it suffers emotions directly.
Holee Suite Jeebus. If I could dream up and produce copious amounts of word salad and throw in loads of long words like marmalade, then I would definitely try not to use them to paint the impossible with illogical reality brush strokes.
Satan translates in greek to slanderer or plotter. In hebrew satan translates to "the adversary"! Jesus Christ is lord of lords, king of kings! god bless everyone.
the fact that the most brilliant man on this planet (rn) believes in JESUS is absolutely mind blowing🤯🤯I THANK THEE ALMIGHTY GOD FOR JESUS AND FOR JORDAN PETERSON!
I would humbly and respectfully suggest one consider the state of the NATURAL world, to better understand the contradictions inherent in the belief of A God/Jesus hypotheses..Peace friend .
@@chrisparker2118 Good question friend.. from the perspective of philosophical naturalism, there is nothing mysterious about consciousness at all.. Chalmers popularized the notion of the "hard problem" , perhaps mainly because it seemed hard to him.. Consciousness can simply be viewed as awareness of the environment..Using this more precise definition instead of CONSCIOUSNESS, and aspects of mysticism and superstitions tend to dissolve on their own.. Furthermore a naturalist would eliminate the number of assumptions that CANNOT be observed.. What you are left with, is a smooth upward line on a graph illustrating a direct relationship between an animals level of environmental awareness, and it's so called consciousness.. I make no claim to higher intellectual ground here but that is how a naturalist views it.. Additionally there are very good theories explaining the BEGINNINGS of such awareness..I'm always open to friendly debate friend, without involving any disrespect.. Peace
The greatest tradigy manknd has ever committed was denying their natural compassion, then, because humanity chose to deny compassion, humanity could not know a liar. Then mankind allowed evil to rule this eden. Even after Jesus warned you all what exactly to look for in evil. that is the tradigy.
"Mankind could not know a liar" the first liar they met was God. He told them they would die if they ate from the tree. The snake told them they would not die. The snake told the truth and God lied.
@@benjohnis The first humans had child like minds. They have never experienced any evil ever.How easy is it to lie to a child? God never lied, the man who wrote those words lied. Those who claim authority in the name of a god, are liars. It was the death of innocents, and yes humans have been dying for thousands of years. You do not know a liar. "Snake" is a metaphor, silly, they had very simple minds back then, so they had to use pictures to explain their ideals. I see your child like mind believes liars.
Lucifer was a high ranking angel, what we would view as a worship leader. He became lifted in pride and wanted to be "like the Most High". He came up with a plan, the first "conspiracy" to accomplish this plan. He convinced a portion of the angels that they could be separated from the Most High and their own god, and they could partake in the pleasures of the flesh and make "images" of themselves both male and female. Thus the "INsurrection" of the "elohiym" and the real story of Genesis 1. Humans, this flesh system was created for the sole purpose to give the angels that kept not their "first" "estate" but left (forsook) their own habitation and have been "reserved" in "everlasting" "chains" until judgement, a second chance, a chance to be REconciled to, REdeemed from, REpurchased by Him who loved us enough to provide a way back to Him. We are all prodigals and we each came into this flesh prison system in our own time, place and rank. The time is coming that believers are waiting for and that is the REsurrection. Can't take part in the REsurrection unless you were part of the INsurrection to "begin" with. The Most High did not create mankind for fellowship and then punish every human with being born in sin and born into death because of what "Adam and Eve" did. We're in this flesh because we all "ate" from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. The devil that deceived us is the god of this world who's spirit lives in each person, when we chose this we became 1 with him. The 2 became 1, think about the towers that fell and were replaced by one, the 2 became 1. That was a ritual mocking the scriptures and mankind as a whole and points us to "the beginning". Hebrew is alpha-numeric and each letter is also a numerical value, as is each word. The first word in scripture translated as "in the beginning" has a numerical value of nine hundred and eleben. No coincidences.
Romans 5.12..through one man, Adam, sin and death began, (entered into the world). Adam disobeyed God and obeyed Satan's direction. God had warned him that if he ate from that certain tree, he would die. Satan said he wouldn't (he had just created him, why would he allow him to die)That serpent was wrong! From then on, Adam and his offspring were alienated from God's protective rule, removed from the garden and the tree of life that was there, and living with a genetic predisposition to sin and error ,and all condemned to die . In his letter To The Romans, Paul explains that source of sin and how all of us including he,himself, must strive against that inborn sinfulness, especially in this wicked world. But he also reveals there, that we can be reconciled to God through our faith in the value of Jesus sacrificial death. Romans 5.6to11 Paul's explanation of this and his confession of personal struggle helps us all to see a way forward through this present darkness... Romans8.1 ...Therefore those in union with Christ Jesus have no condemnation. For the law of that spirit which gives life in union with him has set you free from the law of sin and death. God created a world with real consequences, where everything matters. To do so He had to make error and failure possible. As Paul says..For the creation was subjected to futility, not by its own will but through him that subjected it, on the basis of hope that the creation itself also will be set free from enslavement to corruption. It appears that Adam did not apologize for his error and ask to be forgiven. We can do so for our errors ,based upon God's arrangement for forgiveness of sin which is through faith in Christ Jesus. Ro3.21to26
The garden, walking with God, the tree, the serpent are metaphors. Not literal things. We chose and continue to choose the fruit and we continue to be separated from God and the garden.
Suffering and... deserving? I think "deserve" have nothing to do here. We suffer regardless if we "deserve" it or not. Suffering is here to teach us what we have to learn. God don't gives good point to the ones who deserve them.
I'm not sure where you got that idea, but from how I understood it, that's what Peterson mentions: that suffering is more tragic the less the person deserves it. And because suffering is inevitable, whether or not it is deserved, is what makes life tragic, and how we must better ourselves to deal with that. After all, this talk was about the tragedy of the Passion in relation to the spiritual (ethical) transformation that comes through it, either our own transformation or the transformation of our community.
@@erasetoys1489 Are you saying that the Bible cannot be interpreted in many vastly different ways by people of different backgrounds? Because I've read enough of the Bible to know that Peterson is only emphasizing that God is merciful and empathetic, that God understands our suffering and seeks to help us out of it. If seeking to understand God better is nothing more than "humans trying to seem intelligent," then please, you shouldn't have engaged in this to begin with.
I wouldn't think a man as intelligent as him would believe the nonsense in the bible as "literal." Talking snakes? Noah's magic boat? A genocidal maniac of a god? Etc.
I would advise a little caution there. Those old stories are intended to be archetypal as they're designed to teach lessons to children, so they have to present a generalised view on life so it can be widely applied.
I would say human nature in general is goofy. Why would one spend 15 dollars to sit in a cramped movie theater and watch other people dress up and pretend to be imagined characters? Why would someone put on headphones and listen to complex melodic patterns of sound vibrations? Music, art, archetypical stores, The Bible, and even children stories all point towards something that seems to be necessary for the human experience. Why? Probably because our minds can only understand the world through abstractions like movies and stories.
@@jeremiahnoar7504 All of these things are also distractions from the otherwise inescapable, maddening truth of our cosmic insignificance : ) the second our brains became capable of asking "why?", we were doomed lol it's not that these things help us gain ultimate understanding of any kind, it's that they give us excuses to live. This being said, some of the things you listed are less offensive to reality than others lol.
@@KangMinseok You're looking at it from an un-useful perspective. Anyone one can look at a time/space frame of reference where there actions are meaningless. Jordan Peterson called that a cheap trick of the faculty of reason. Chalking things up to cosmic insignificants isn't really all that useful either. You could call your impact on the universe useless, but you still have to go to work tomorrow, or study for school, or interact with people and things that will effect your lived experience today, next week in for the next 50 years.
It's sad to see a man knowledgeable about things of the world become an utter fool when it comes to the things of God. Matthew 11:25 At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.
With all due respect this sounds Heart feeling an Compassionate.But It also sounds deranged an sickening that this needs to happen for people to be save an good from the one who Created it like this.
Darkness is a LACK OF light. Cold is a LACK OF heat. Evil is a LACK OF righteousness. It just is. Switch off the light and we are by default plunged into darkness. Turn off the heat and we are by default plunged into cold. Cut off righteousness and we are by default plunged into evil.
If I were the priest I would not dare to arrange such an interview😅😅they do not realize Petersen's explanation is basically reasserting the Bible as a cultural (and archetypal, of course!) construct, and not itself the WORD of GOD!! Good luck with that!!🤣🤣🤣🤣
Jordan, stop embarrassing yourself. Christian theology 101 teaches all men are BORN with Satan "in their heart" and, therefore, MUST be "born again" by the indwelling Holy Spirit of God. You are becoming a two-bit con Jordan. Show more class and stop pretending there is no difference from your secular mind and the spiritual mind of a regenerated person.
I barely started listening to Jordan Peterson, and I'm not the type of person that just listens to anyone and everyone. I'm very picky who I listen to but this great person, just grabs my attention and not only that, actually activates a consciousness. You hear people on Tv, they may grab your attention but are you "actually" listening to them? This man disperses knowledge and insight in a concisely dense manner right away. He would even pause to make sure he has the right thing to say as opposed to pausing to make what you said more valuable. That's real authenticity and my "being" is just picking up on this with this person. This man is onto something great with exposing the realities we live in, even through his own character of God working through him. I personally think though, this guy should not be exposing any insight to these people working on Artificial Intelligence, it would just give them a stronger deceptive work to extort chaos on the understandings of the true realities God has designed.
The concept of Christian religion. According to the Cristian Trinity ...the father is not the son, the son is not the father. the father is not the holy spirit. the father is God .the son is God .and the holy spirit is God. these are not three God but one God. If they are together one God .question did Mary get pregnant The answer is yes. now come to question Jesus made pregnant her mother because the father is God the Son is God and the holy spirit is God, and they are not three gods but together one God .wow absolutely not making sense.
More pompous bungling drivel from Jordan. Tragic is when something bad happens to a person? So does that mean if someone steals my car that it is a tragedy? It is more of a tragedy if it happens to an innocent person? If someone steals my car and I did nothing to deserve it, then it is more tragic? Christ is the ultimate tragedy because he did nothing to deserve it? He actually did something. He got his followers to buy two swords and then used violence at the temple. When he was arrested one of his followers used a sword to attack those arresting him. By the way the score for people killed in the bible by Satan is 10. (Job's family) The numbers killed by God is millions. (Flood various acts of genocide) Satan has always got a bad rap
Reading the comments absolutely 0% percent f the comments understand context and that sometimes when things are written i Greek and Hebrew they don't translate perfectly so you, yourself have to understand the Greek and Hebrew version first. Most of you are blasphemers, twisting the word for your own desires. Fools. I hope that one day you can study first and think before you speak
@@georgecopeland5426 "lol" how about you educate yourself and prevent yourself from sounding ignorant. Grow up kid and use your brain, wait I'll repeat that, use your brain before you speak
I wonder if JP has ever experienced something he can't explain naturalistically. Our wisdom and knowledge get beefy upgrades when we experience something that seems to break the prior rules. Like, what if 2 realities can sometimes share the same space. Have you ever felt like you've seen a demon in someone or an angel in another,? I once felt like someone reached out and placed their hand on my shoulder, assuring me at night when I worried in bed about the next day. It was terrifying, thrilling and comforting at the same time. How is it? some dreams feel like a lost episode of Monty Python and others seem like a brutal premonition of the future with mushroom clouds and horror indistinguishable from reality. Something tells me a whole lot of us, if we could see it all as it really is, we wouldn't stray all that far from where we currently are. Maybe I hope you all have experiences like this.
Yahweh creates his own nemesis, then he wants to be known to man, so he appears to a couple prophets, then later decides to open up heaven to people, so he sends his son to be tortured to death so that people would hear about it....consequently, most humans don't worship Christ or Yahweh. Not the smartest god.
@@misterknightowlandco As with anything. :) It is I believe in any want to be Christians mindset, that one should go to the word a bit more often. At the end of the day, even as a christian one might be better of going to the talmud or one of those old rabbi Jewish bibles at least for the old testament.
god: if you eat from that tree you will die snake to eve: you can eat anything you want and you wont die eve to god: i blame the snake for making me eat that fruit adam to god: i blame eve for making me eat that fruit moral of the story: trust the snakes! they are the only who tell the truth and dont blame others
Is it possible to recover from a romantic relationship where in your partner ended up being the sum total of all the fears you could have about a relationship/partner? Doesn’t feel like it is.
Yes it is, by putting your faith in Christ you can come to terms with understanding WHY everything in your life happened as it did, and how to avoid it and be at peace as you stumble forward into the future.
At this moment it doesn't feel like. The worst but true advice is in time it will heal. Right now, recovering can be feeling these emotions. You feel lost, and used because they did betrayed you. You can see your errors, maybe you saw the red flag but choose to ignore it, or you were too lost in the thrill of it. Note them, but don't use it blame yourself for what has happen. It's a flaw that you now recognized to learn and work on. But! You did not deserve the hurt and betrayal by this person, always remember that. It's good if you can find something greater than yourself, something you can connect with. If it's not through religion it can be through nature or community. Often time serving other people, animals or plants can help you learn to love again, something that beyond romantic love.
So we all have to suffer at some point to know and be with god and he gave us freewill only for it to be on his terms and in exchange we get a peaceful sorrow.
The Gospel: Plain and Simple “But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.” - 2 Corithians 11:3 Ask someone today if they are saved and you will most likely hear responses like these: “I have accepted Jesus into my heart.” Or “I have made him Lord of my life.” “I’ve been baptized.” “I said a prayer.” Sounds all good and churchy don’t it; but it is difficult to de-termine whether or not a person actually knows the gospel that saves them. These useless phrases don’t describe a thing about what the gospel is and has left a devastating effect of people not knowing what it is that they are saved from nor how they are saved; which leaves a more serious effect of people questioning their salvation. Let’s not muddy the simplicity of salvation that is in Christ with vague church sounding phrases that do not communicate anything. But rather present God’s word with clarity and assuredness. So here is the gospel: plain and simple. Sin was passed upon all men by one man Adam, and death is a consequence of this sin (Rom 5:12). Mankind has an eternal destiny of condemnation and wrath - Hell - because of this sin (Rom 6:23). No matter what good works one might do we are still found sinners in the sight of our Creator God. And all unrighteousness and those who follow get indignation and wrath. We cannot be found righteous for by God’s law we are found sinners (Rom 3:19-20). If we have broken even one law we are found guilty. It is for this reason of not being able to create our own righteousness and being born in a sinful flesh that we need a savior (Titus 3:5). Christ is that Savior, God manifested in the flesh, sinless, died in our place on a cross 2000 years ago. Taking upon him the wrath and judgement that was intended for us sinners. And it is through his bloodshed, burial, and resurrection on our behalf that we are able to have peace with God and forgiveness of our sins (1 Cor 15:1-4, Col 3:14). This good news is unto all but only those that believe in it are made righteous in Christ (Romans 3:22). It is then after we have heard this good news of Christ’s righteousness available to us freely, that we are sealed with the Holy Spirit and we are now part of Christ’s body the church (Eph 1:13) There is nothing that we need to do, no good works that are required, and no bad works that can separate us from our new position in Christ (Romans 8:35-39). Faith and belief in this information from God’s word is the gospel. The gospel is not accepting Jesus into your heart. The gospel is not making him lord of your life, it is not saying a prayer and it is not being baptized with water. So next time someone asks you if you are saved. Give them the clear assured answer “Yes! And let me tell you why!” Find more free resources at www.graceambassadors.com
Yes He chose to turn away from God and 1/3 of the Angels followed him. They are the fallen angels that inhabit our world causing all this insanity going on. He knows God is the ultimate authority, but he wants to be that himself and replace God. Thats his plan which will ultimately fail.
Thank You Dr.Peterson for your hard work and dedication. If you only helped 1 more person as much as you have helped me. That in itself would make all your hard work worth the effort. I owe you more than I could ever repay. Godspeed and God Bless!
So the whole thing about the crucifixion is is that in the biblical sense the heavenly father purposely created impregnated Mary with a son for the sole purpose of doing so so Jesus was forgotten by the heavenly father by pregnant impregnating Mary with him with Jesus to be sacrificed he was literally created for that purpose and supposedly saving us from damnation for our sins so it wasn't like he had some other purpose to sole purpose of the crucifixion was to save us from our sins so we wouldn't burn in hell forever that's the reason why Jesus existed is it not so tells you something about the morality of that one huh
When they're talking about Jesus embracing his end when he was literally created for that purpose so how is there something that he would have to literally not be created for that purpose to embrace an ending that he already knew instead thus created for that purpose to save our souls our sit us from our sins he would know that from the beginning when he so he was made for that purpose designed for that purpose created for that purpose so there's no coming to a sense of embracing it he was created for that purpose that's not that something embracement that's literally created for that purpose that would be like creating clones of a person just to kill them and having them know it the whole time that's not an embracement but he also he he would also know why so there's no acceptance there he already knew he was created to do so he knew his purpose and if you already know that purpose and and why that purpose is there's no embracement because you literally no you're not going to die right how are you going to all I'm embracing it I'm going to die when that is literally substantially nothing and you know you're going to live on anyways that'd be like go ahead and do whatever you want man you hurt me and everything but you'll never ever kill me I will rise and I will do this and this and that and blah blah blah that's secure the word can't believe but you keep believing in your God just like Jesus said
The cross has an important meaning, but once you go all the way to understand the resurrection and live after that, you will understand why we should not worship the cross, and the importance of eternal ordinances and covenants.
Ho ho all in the guys what's his name John or effort names but anyways I got speaking when he says when they put it at the center then all sudden the commercial comes on and it's loud and it says just all the sudden nerds it was hilarious
The Padre is correct when he talks about the Resurrection being central to the Passion. But so is forgiveness. No one is immune from suffering but the worst suffering is self-inflicted; hate. Hate is corrosive to the soul and over time will consume you. Forgiveness is the medicine and like many medicines may seem bitter but in the end it is necessary: “When you hate, the only person who suffers is you because those you hate probably don't know, and those who do, don't care.” ― Medgar Evers
A lot of people did there were tons and unknown people that were crucified in the same way there's nothing significant about them doing it to a bunch of people compared to in one person
THIS SEEMS BE SENSE. THE SERPENT..PASSION. DEVIL SPEAKS BACKWARDS. SATANNATAS...SO! M NOTHING THAT BECOMES SOMETHING...SERPENT!!!!! LOL DESIRE BOUND.. LOVE AND HATE. ❤️🖖😎❤️
There are revelations that comes with surrender and repentance. To accept that is inevitable....only with, through, in, on, the knowledge of what, who, why is JESUS..
I've met Jesus and God, I know they are real for a fact and I can lead most if not all of you(your own will deciding)to the Father, the Son and the Holy spirit. Or you can ignore me and go find out yourself, that's what I did, and I was a christian all my life before that, all you have to do, is fold your hands, pray, and ask anything and everything you've ever wanted to ask, of course be respectful and realize this is not a game, if you think it is and you think your smart, and you think I'm lying, or you think I'm some bible basher I challenge you. Go the full mile, do it yourself, see if Jesus and God are real, you don't have to sell your soul to Jesus and God to meet them. Set the intention in your heart, if you find yourself thinking sometime, hmmm I really wonder if all these wacky christianity people are saying is true, then in your head right there as you've asked it, think to yourself, in your head, Dear Lord(out of respect you ask the Lord anything you want to ask of God)/Dear God please if you are real, or if Christianity is real, please prove it to me. Watch, wait and listen carefully, the sings will be there, if Jesus and God have decided to bless you with such knowledge. I myself, have a sorrowful story, 25 years of pure fucking misery on this earth, I've broken most if not every commandment, and probably done every conceivable wrong/sin possible except rape /murder, and I met Jesus, I SAW God with my own eye, I had covered the other one because I was too scared to peek with both, not only that, I spend a good two/three nights in consistent communication with the spirit of God. I also have been smoking weed(12) and playing videogames(5)basically all my life, been a complete lazy depressed, anxious grumpy negative slob, and kind of still am, but I'm a lot better of than others. Thank the Lord and God for that.
I like Jordan Peterson but sometimes he completely blows it... there is this incredible push broom oculto beer and rewrite and redouble their efforts as to what was said or what was done ? Maybe go back to the Gospel of Thomas ? Where Jesus is responsible for murder ? The strange part is that the gnostics to accept Jesus. Yet the church in Constantinople in 1001 commit genocide upon the gnostics hardest text and then call it fiction. Except for some parts of course... you know the necessary control pieces. And what for centuries they end up worshipping Cesar Borgia as a Jesus image ? There are two facts about the cult of Aberham an this includes Catholics, Jews, Muslims, and Christians. There is an unbelievable amount of blood on your hands. There is no unbelievable amount of corruption, disillusion, collusion and down right underhanded Behavior. I've known quite a few from the Church of Satan. The strange part is that there are the most considerate concern well-read and decent people I've met in this world. And I had to be ordained Buddhist to marry my ex-wife. So a lot like the "not beautiful" comment ? Whereas we can all accept the fact that anything that brings life into this world is actually beautiful regardless... and not just respecting the fact that I believe you are very talented doctor in a very talented speaker ? You tend to be persuaded by a side of outright lunacy. And in some cases end up being a shill for it ! Because I don't believe and you don't believe Penguins migrated to the Middle East to get on a doomed boat ride from God. Nor do you believe in creationism if somehow you needed to fit 56 million animals on a boat ? And that boat would have to be bigger than the size of Rhode Island. Noah himself would have to be 50 ft tall to steer it. And of course it doesn't say farts because anything scientific at the time was related to carpentry or the science of building. All well an fine. I see the intention from the heart. So I might consider that very irrational from a psychiatrist
Hebrews 1:1 --God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, 2Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;-------- ------So if the life of Christ is the standard by which the Father God speaks to us then show me Where does it say we are to be infirmed? "only thing Jesus cursed was the fig tree
The worst possible tragedy is Christ suffering at the end of his life? He had to be crucified to forgive people of their sins (what an illogical action to cause that to occur). He probably knew he wouldn't suffer in the afterlife, the suffering lasted only a few days. Compare that with a kid who lives in a war torn area. The father is killed while he is working in a field, her older brother went off to fight and is in a prison camp, her mother was raped while she had to watch, and she was sold into sex trafficking where she suffered for decades while being forced to stay alive and being traumatized every day and likely in a severe amount of pain. All while getting diseases, being freezing cold or unbearably hot, having mosquitoes eat you alive, starving due to lack of food provided. That is much worse than Christ on the cross. If Christianity is true, I want nothing to do with God, he ultimately allows the world to be as evil as it is. And I won't be with the devil, perpetuating evil. Should I fight the devil in the afterlife, what's the point? Apparently, God wants him to be powerful, and I'm sick to death of Gods stupid game of life and making people suffer. If the Christian God exists, I want him to permanently destroy my soul so I cease to exist. After decades of inner psychological torture that I have endured, I know that being created was a curse, not a blessing.
Satan is not the devil, Dr. Peterson. Never was, never will be. Lucifer was the devil. Satan was the prosecutor in heavenly court, as shown in Job. This myth needs to stop.
I love the religious talks. But I wonder if the catholic church paid Dr. P. To do this podcast. Because they definitely have some rebranding and image repairs.
Here is the plain truth that all people need to know. All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. -Romans 3: 23 The wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. -Romans 6: 23 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. -John 14: 6 Whoever believes in Jesus has eternal life, but whoever rejects Jesus will not see life, for God’s wrath remains on them. -John 3: 36 Believe in Jesus and you will be saved. Then read the Bible, pray to God and obey Him. I hope you will consider the great importance of your eternal soul.
@@chrisparker2118 Hey Christ, thanks for the reply! It is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God-not by works, so that no one can boast. -Ephesians 2: 8-9 I hope you will consider what the Word of God says. Put your faith in Jesus alone and you will be saved. God bless you always.
@@adamsanchez222 You have much to learn about scripture and of yourself, my friend. I asked God what separates us from him. And to my surprise, the answer was communicated immediately. It is our will that separates us from God and it is our will that brings us back to Him. The letter aleph has a upper yud that represents the father above and the lower yud represents the son (us) below. The vav separates the upper yud from the lower yud, however, it also connects the upper yud to the lower yud. So, the line of separation is simultaneously the line of connection. So, our will separates us from Him but simultaneously connects us back to Him. My favorite verse is when Christ says if you have faith the size of a mustard seed, you will say to this mountain move from here to there and it will move and nothing will be impossible to you. A mustard seed is the smallest of seeds, so how can it move a mountain? Here's how. It never forgets its a mustard seed. It knows its a mustard seed and will take root and grows into a large tree in some of the harshest environments, never forgetting what it is. We must remember who we are. That's how we are saved. Recognizing and understanding that we are the center of the heart of the Creator.
@@chrisparker2118 Hey Chris, I appreciate your thoughtful reply. You believe the scriptures? That's wonderful. We cannot pick and choose what scriptures we like and do not like. Nor can we manipulate them to say something other than what they say. I will give some statements and verses that plainly say those things. Jesus is God (John 1:1, John 1: 14). In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. -John 1:1 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth. -John 1: 14 Jesus is truth (John 14:6). Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. -John 14: 6 There is only one Jesus (John 3: 13, John 3: 16) For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. -John 3: 16 No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven-the Son of Man. -John 3: 13 Only Jesus can save you from death in your sins (Acts 4: 11-12). Jesus is “’the stone you builders rejected, which has become the cornerstone.’ Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved.” -Acts 4: 11-12 We have no power on our own and can do nothing outside of Christ Jesus (John 15: 5) “I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing. -John 15: 5 I love you Chris, but if you don't put your faith in Jesus Christ alone, then you are not saved according to the Bible and you will perish. But I believe God loves you and He is patient with us. God wants all of us to repent of our sins, trust in Jesus Christ and receive eternal life. The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance. -2 Peter 3: 9 I hope you can see that I am not competing with you, I only want you to know the truth, that faith in Jesus Christ is the only way to the Father. I hope the Lord will open the eyes of your heart to know this. God bless you and keep you.
@@adamsanchez222 My friend, I am not trying to change what is written in scripture. However, there is more to the words in scripture than what is read at a superficial level. Even the individual letters themselves have a deep meaning that cannot be understood when simply reading them literally. For instance, the letter bet means in, inside, and house. Genesis begins with the letter bet. This is extremely important to understand, because it implies that creation starts inside which helps understand the tree bearing fruit whose seed is within itself. This tree bears the fruit of consciousness which flows from with in (singularity of the seed) to the with out (expanse of the fruit). Jesus said he is the alpha and the omega. Most take this as the beginning and the end. Which is true, but it holds a deeper meaning which is the flow of consciousness from the singularity of alpha to the expanse of omega. O-mega means expanse, vastness. Elohim, which is a masculine plural, also represents the expanse which is why Elohim parts the seas. The seas are vast and expansive. This is the flow of consciousness from the seed of the individual mind (thought) to the fruit of words and action. This is also represented by the mark on the forehead (thought) and the mark on the right hand (action). Since we are created in the image of Him, this is how consciousness flows from the oneness (seed) of the Creator to the all encompassing allness of creation (fruit). The word Torah even comes from a root word that means to flow. Also, when the letters of the first verse of Genesis of properly paired, the form what's called the two-torus. Inside the two-torus is a vortex that can be called the flame of consciounsess. This toroidal vortex draws every letter of the Hebrew aleph-bet. So, the letters of the first verse of Genesis creates a form that creates the letters themselves, giving a whole new understanding of the tree bearing fruit whose seed is within itself. You can look up Stan Tenen's work with the Meru foundation to have a better explanation of the toroidal vortex flame of consciounsess. He has some videos on YT which give great insight. There is so much that can be said that I just don't have a good medium to use to give a very clear explanation. Everything is interconnected and related and truly understanding one thing requires understanding a whole host of other things to get the whole picture. But it can all be summed by one simple truth: As above, so below. And as below, so above. This leaves us smack dab in the middle as the living, beating, heart of God.
Satan? Are you kidding me? If God is the Alpha and Omega and knows everything he already knows the choices you will make because he made you and thus you had no choice it was his will. And blaming Satan for something please God is all-powerful he allowed Satan to do it.
2 Neph 2: 11: For it must needs be, that there is an aopposition in all things. If not so, my firstborn in the wilderness, righteousness could not be brought to pass, neither wickedness, neither holiness nor misery, neither good nor bad.
It's interesting that 666 is often associated with evil, considering that it is such a harmonious and naturally ubiquitous sequence of numbers. Nature tends to arrange itself in threefold and sixfold geometry. The hexagon is one of the most stable geometric shapes in nature, while the pentagon is also associated with satan. Why would a god of "good" design the universe such? I think I'm missing something here. If anyone has any insight into this from either a mathematical or esoteric/occult perspective I would really appreciate it...
Imagine, Christ knew the old testament intimately. From a very early age. At what age did he know he was going to the cross? I would imagine he was 11 or 12. Each year he would go up to Jerusalem for the feasts. Each year he would pass by the thieves and murderers hanging on their crosses. It was ever in his face. The fear that must have gripped him in the garden where the first Adam failed the test. Now the bill has come do. He knew from childhood what he must suffer. How much he must love us.
A extremely powerful observation. Thank you.
I can forgive people without torturing my beloved. Easy, you just forgive. It's a disgusting idea that innocent have to suffer before you forgive their oppressors.
He known since always. He is omniscient.
Ohh yeah and you know that based on your assumptions and wild imagination... another lunatic
@@whoever1 Have you been drinking? Your post is so confused. It makes no sense. Try to explain your questions more clearly.
It is obvious that Christ unfortunately had to suffer- both the God and the man had to go through it, both to 'understand it' (not just theoretically, but with the flesh), and to be able to be spiritually 'authorised' to relieve the suffering of all of us.
His story provides comfort during times of trial, exactly because he got down there in the trenches with us, and despite all that, he managed to reach the lowest point (torture, humiliation, betrayal and death), but rise again to eternal life.
This dude been reading Hebrews or something.
AMEN!
If the God had to go through it to understand it doesn't that highlight no omnipotence?
@@colinriches1519 He didnt do it for Himself, but to lead by example. It does not matter how good or powerful He is, nobody would follow him if he never went through the same (and worse) suffering that we do.
1 John 3: 8 He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil.
*FRIENDLY REMINDER* | We will make life much more manageable when we can distinguish which hands to shake and which ones to hold.
Wise comment. 🙏
Ambiguous,vagery, with out point, cryptosism.
Good luck trying, because that's Judging, and as humans, our Judgement is always lacking.
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More like the hands to shake in the valley of snakes
Literally 50 seconds in and I am already receiving value from what he is saying. I do not know him personally (like most of us) yet I have such a respect and a love for him as a fellow human.
paused at 49 seconds to comment something similar, goddamn jordan...
Seriously, I couldn’t have a conversation like this with a loved one.
He’s like a stepdad that actually cares
Really? Sounds like babble to me
Okay then...
An excellent distillation and dissertation! Struggle, wrestle, suffer, but rise nonetheless!
The vocabulary of this man...
The way he perfectly articulates ideas and thoughts can reach even a simpleton such as I
@@outsidechambaz yep that's all the ALLPOWERFULL GOD ALLMIGHTY HALLUYAH KING OF KINGS LORD OF LORDS EVERLASTING KING GOD JAHOVA ALLMIGHTY would create just a bunch of simpleton not a ALLPOWERFULL society of super geniuses no no just a bunch of dirty sinners ha
Word salad and a lot of non sense. Many times he sounds like a quack Deepak Chopra. Sam Harris tried to catch JP words and make him explain himself. He did terribly.
Hitchens was much better at language and much smarter when it comes to religious nonsense this boomer preaches. Pathetic.
I don't get how you can be impressed :o
Comes with education.
This is a clip from the talk Dr. Peterson gave at my university! Thank you for sharing this; it was an amazing experience in person.
...Just type in "A Brief Look at Jordan Peterson" and be amazed.
One thing I always think about when it comes to the passion is how Jesus and God the Father both must have suffered in a way that isn’t able to be imagined. If they are all good, which they are, then something like spite and bitterness wouldn’t even occur to them. But spite and bitterness are ways in which we often deal with our suffering. It’s cathartic to hate what is hurting you, it helps ease the pain a bit. Which means God and Jesus suffered perfectly, without an ounce of hatred or bitterness or vengeance to sooth them as they witnessed the most tragic thing possible. To be honest it makes the whole thing that much worse, but that much more beautiful I think.
Correct me if you disagree, but as far as I can comprehend, you can't be omnipotent/omniscient/omnipresent AND innocent/ignorant to the concept of malevolence.
Assuming that the linear, dualistic conception of the "source" or "god" that has manifested throughout various religions and practices across the world throughout human history is accurate, then the source of all creation created both good and evil. Where else could it come from? As above so below, right?
But like I said, please correct me if you have some deeper insight than I do.
@@nellkellino-miller7673there is a interesting way to answer that, Saint Augustin was a catholic bishop that pondered a lot about the nature of evil, and the answer he came up with is that in reality evil is like cold or darkness, were it isn't something, but rather the lack of something, just like how cold doesn't exist its just the absence of heat, or darkness is the absence of light, evil is the absence of good, which would mean that God couldn't be evil, because If he was then it would mean he is lacking in something rather than being perfect, i am not super knowledgeable on Augustin and his teachings so you could search him up If you want to find a more deep and fulll explanation his ideas on the nature of evil
Our culture recently has put sex, money and drugs as center of our culture, not jesus, sad to say.
Thanks to Jesus we can repent shit 7 times 70. Best friends are there for each other. 🍷😎
How “recent” do you think sex, money and drugs are? This was my earlier point on a different thread. Jordan Peterson sounds good to people who don’t read. When you expand your knowledge you realize that Peterson is saying nothing original. He’s obviously intelligent and eloquent. These ideas have been around since the beginning of human history. He just presents them nicely on RUclips. Sex, drugs and money have been a philosophical issue since Socrates, Plato and Aristotle 2000 years ago.
@@krisweaver7524 You forgot to mention the philosophical Line it actually follows from first, which is Epicurus line.
What I implied is that the culture is very biologized/animalized (YOLO culture), which J.P. actually himself partially helped become too, through never ending affirmations of "evolutionary biology" that humans are animals and how our lower nature is there the way it is and how many times we can't help it but adhere to it rather than to higher values.
Also another reason is that west philosophically almost completely rejects christian/monotheist metaphysics, so all you are left with is scientism type metaphysics where everything there is, is exact material objects, laws of physics and biological evolution.
Jesus is useless
One thing I think is missed in the story, is that Jesus didn't do it for himself. It was not a sacrifice for himself, it was so others would be condemned to eternal suffering or death
do you mean “would not be condemned…”?
Jesus Christ died so that mankind may be saved. Whoever believed onto Jesus, faith in Jesus, shall have eternal life.
Jesus Christ took upon sin, all sin, past, present, future. Sin was imputed onto Him. He who knew no sin, became sin. And God, in his justice, crushed and killed His Only begotten Son under the full force of His wrath.
Isaiah 53:10
Yet it was the LORD’s will to crush Him and to cause Him to suffer; and when His soul is made a guilt offering, He will see His offspring, He will prolong His days, and the good pleasure of the LORD will prosper in His hand.
God carried out justice. And because He is a good God, He punished the one who bore our sins. He took our place. The sacrificial lamb.
Jesus Christ has every right to say in
John 14:6
“I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.”
Whenever you hear people ask about “why is Jesus is the only way? “ or “You’re so close minded to think Jesus is the only way.” In no other religion or faith, talks about God taking form of a man and died for his people. For all the sins of man and to die for them all.
John 3:16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.
So it makes sense for people that do not believe in Jesus Christ to be condemned to hell or as you say ethereal suffering or death.
John 3:18
Whoever believes in Him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe has already been condemned, because he has not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.
No you are wrong read John 3:16-17 Jesus didn't come into the world to condemn the world but in order that it would be saved through him.
It's just a story. You guys are acting like it's real.
@@damiandmerri2536 the thing is it is real and the scary thing is there is a silent invisible spiritual war being waged against mankind by Satan but hope is in Jesus🌍🌏🌎✝️🔥👑🙂
Petersons view on the scriptures is incredibly inspiring
I've just recently happened to come across Dr Jordan Peterson videos . I love how his mind works and he speaks from a wisdom that can only be of God . It speaks to the very core of our souls .
In this video he could be speaking literally of my life and the depths of suffering I've endured . Especially when it's not just one snake but a knock on effect that affected a few generations . I've only been a Christian for nearly 22 years of my nearly 56 years .I've know suffering that has had others say this is too much how did I survive and overcome it . It's only as a Christian do I understand the purpose of my pain and suffering . That yes in this world we will suffer because it's a broken marred world . That in the end all the suffering I've endured isn't forever but the rewards of this are eternal in Christ . I'm a living example of walking in God's healing .
I am a Christian, and I, too, have suffered in my life, though not nearly as much as some. I see that my suffering has made me wise, and I've tried to become a better person, but I do say to God sometimes, "Am I wise enough yet? Can I rest for a while?" It's a question I'm not sure I want the answer to. But all I can do is pray that God gives me strength when my own fails.
@@darthimperious1594 Life is precious and it's not about being wiser . No point being wise in one's own eyes . Try and make the best of each day . I've learnt that after the huge traumas I've been through I've met others who I consider have overcome more . It was only in Christ did I understand the generational curses that come down our family blood line . The Bible says that the life is in the blood . Throughout the Bible there's stories for us to look at . You ask for wisdom but then read about king Solomon He was a young boy when crowned king . He asked for wisdom and that pleased God . What did his wisdom afford him . He was a king who in his life time saw that much peace he went on an adventure to find out the meaning of life . He disregarded any warnings and bought in forgien women . He was a man so spoilt that he didn't forsee his down fall .
I believe we have wisdom that comes from experience and wisdom that is of God .
In proverbs it gives great advice on how one should build their life . It applies to the here and now because it's an example just like the many people of the Bible lives are there . We are a blessed generation because now more than any time knowledge is spreading . What knowledge we take in matters because life is a one off exam and time is ticking away . Focus not on the suffering because in Christ we know if it happened to God's only son it will surely happen to us .
I live with a grateful heart because I know where I've been hurt bruised and battered Jesus healed those areas and His power works through us all to help others the same . I've seen more miracles and supernatural power at work in past 22 years . I can see from birth to now how hard the devil's tried to take my life I was disowned by my Muslim family and God called me by name . I was 20 when I had no where to go it's only by God's grace I'm alive . Trust me I tired ending it few times . It's not mine to take . God shoock me up I heard Him say that even if I was on life support because of my selfish acts He will fulfill His purpose on my life . I learnt the hard way so I can help any that come my way . I'm soo sorry you've suffered and I hope and pray you feel the peace of Christ deeply in your heart . May He guide you and make you sensitive to His presence . Those who are called are His . He who promises is true He cannot lie He isn't like us men that He change His mind . He doesn't make mistakes and stand firm and proud knowing that it is a huge privilege to have suffered in this world .
I'd live over and over again for the short 70 to 90 years of suffering for the forever Eternity . Keep your eyes fixed on the perfector of our faith . Till we meet in eternity God bless you .
Jordan, stop embarrassing yourself. Christian theology 101 teaches all men are BORN with Satan "in their heart" and, therefore,
MUST be "born again" by the indwelling Holy Spirit of God. You are becoming a two-bit con Jordan. Show more class and stop
pretending there is no difference from your secular mind and the spiritual mind of a regenerated person.
@@darthimperious1594
Jordan, stop embarrassing yourself. Christian theology 101 teaches all men are BORN with Satan "in their heart" and, therefore,
MUST be "born again" by the indwelling Holy Spirit of God. You are becoming a two-bit con Jordan. Show more class and stop
pretending there is no difference from your secular mind and the spiritual mind of a regenerated person.
Yes wisdom is from God and He gives it to us when we ask Him for it.
Compassionate empathy comes from the suffering and pruning we endure as we turn to God's comfort in our sufferings then we too can begin to have the compassionate comfort to comfort others well in their sufferings.
Was a snake in your heart a thing they used to say? Also, I like the way Jordan speaks about the bible - recognising it for the allegory and metaphor that it is, and not a fact book. This is how you can find value in it, while remaining agnostic (well for me anyway)
Words bond, i like how you articulated that, you reflect wisdom my friend.
Really starting to like Jordan Peterson: initially I thought he was a gatekeeper and deceptive person, but now I see that he bridges 'humanity' and empathy with practical spiritual philosophy of the kind which is in context of Christianity's essence, often further fleshing out the debate of morality and its application, on multiple levels of understanding, in relation to all people.
What makes you think Peterson is a "Christian"?
Peterson is mastering his snake brilliantly. 🍷😎
What do you mean by gatekeeper? If anything he wants people to think more like him
@@germaniatv1870 he's not spiritually a Christian, but arguably what is called a "culture Christian". Peterson's lectures on the Bible (available on RUclips) are exquisite.
@@vibovitold Transhumanismus : Pfarrer Hans Milch 1979, Germany.
If you understand German, this s want you would want to listen to. Real German Christian Philosophy: ruclips.net/video/_4fenrEydEA/видео.html
Psalm 37:29
The righteous will possess the earth,
And they will live forever on it.
The Meek….There is none righteous, no not one. By the way it’s not necessarily an endorsement. He’s telling us that unless we fight for our faith, we will not see heaven but we will be confined to live on the new earth.
Kiss the son, don't make him angry. For easily he gets angry and you vanish from the way. Psalm 2.12 😘
@@HippieChick60 What do you mean by fight for your faith?
@@colinriches1519 standing up for your faith when challenged. It’ll be different for everyone
@@HippieChick60 Oh. I read that comment and thought of all the wars humans have fought over religion and was a bit concerned.
*Everyone who reads this, we don't know each other and probably never will but I wish you all the best in life and all the luck in the world*
Question: Do you believe a piece of cloth over your mouth protects you from airborne virus transmission?
@Jay Gee lol your comment got deleted. Censorship at it's finest. But I still got the notification. Good answer! But your question is bad. "Why do you believe" is presumptuous. You should have asked me "Do you believe," like how I did with you.
@Jay Gee Really? I thought my question implies the absurdness of such a notion.
@Jay Gee Anyways it's good to see another human that hasn't been brainwashed these past couple a years. SPREAD THE TRUTH! Lets wake these fuckers up.
@Jay Gee Ahhh touche. All I know is virus particles ain't blocked by fabric lol.
Does Peterson believe that Satan actually exists or does he act as if he does? Just like he says he doesn't know if God exists but acts as if he does. How people fall for this contradictory bull shot I'll never know.
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That's why he always talks in code.
You don’t get it.
He’s saying even if there isn’t a god or satan, why wouldn’t you behave as if there is.
@@martymcfly1833
Follow the golden rule, do you and Jordan Peterson really have to be told this. Really?
@Jo El
I love how people like you bend yourself backwards in order to make excuses for Peterson. It's always hilsrious. Please don't delete your comment because I want other people to see it. Please stay the same. Don't change.
A health crisis can definitely produce more compassion in the person afflicted. It happened to me after my heart transplant! Of course, not everyone who experiences health issues learns from them. But, as the saying goes, lessons will be repeated until learned.
Maybe your donor heart was used to compassion…. Had you considered hearts have neurons? I heard a story about a little girl who was given a heart from a boy who had loved football; during her recovery she developed a love of football… I’m happy that your incredible life saving operation is a success, and that you are discovering such a beautiful facet of human nature, which is truly a gift from God. ❤️🙏
@@MsDormy - Thanks for your support!
I often get asked if I have experienced anything unusual as a result of getting a new heart, to which I almost sadly reply "not that I'm aware of." (Although I do seem to be a bit more obsessive than the perfectionist I was before...)
The HeartMath Institute makes the case that the heart is like a second brain (speaking of neurons), and I eventually did become aware of missing some of my emotional memories as a result of no longer having my old heart.
It seems the expression "a broken heart" is not just figurative, it's literal. As the seat of our emotions, it suffers emotions directly.
Holee Suite Jeebus.
If I could dream up and produce copious amounts of word salad and throw in loads of long words like marmalade, then I would definitely try not to use them to paint the impossible with illogical reality brush strokes.
Satan translates in greek to slanderer or plotter. In hebrew satan translates to "the adversary"! Jesus Christ is lord of lords, king of kings! god bless everyone.
Nicely explained. THANK YOU
the fact that the most brilliant man on this planet (rn) believes in JESUS is absolutely mind blowing🤯🤯I THANK THEE ALMIGHTY GOD FOR JESUS AND FOR JORDAN PETERSON!
I would suggest reading Jung to better understand Christ.
I would humbly and respectfully suggest one consider the state of the NATURAL world, to better understand the contradictions inherent in the belief of A God/Jesus hypotheses..Peace friend .
No, stay away from Jung if you're interested in studying Christ lol
@@Bill..N Where does consciousness and the Self fit into your natural world? All ancient religions originate from the flame of consciounsess.
@@chrisparker2118 Good question friend.. from the perspective of philosophical naturalism, there is nothing mysterious about consciousness at all.. Chalmers popularized the notion of the "hard problem" , perhaps mainly because it seemed hard to him.. Consciousness can simply be viewed as awareness of the environment..Using this more precise definition instead of CONSCIOUSNESS, and aspects of mysticism and superstitions tend to dissolve on their own.. Furthermore a naturalist would eliminate the number of assumptions that CANNOT be observed.. What you are left with, is a smooth upward line on a graph illustrating a direct relationship between an animals level of environmental awareness, and it's so called consciousness.. I make no claim to higher intellectual ground here but that is how a naturalist views it.. Additionally there are very good theories explaining the BEGINNINGS of such awareness..I'm always open to friendly debate friend, without involving any disrespect.. Peace
The greatest tradigy manknd has ever committed was denying their natural compassion, then, because humanity chose to deny compassion, humanity could not know a liar. Then mankind allowed evil to rule this eden. Even after Jesus warned you all what exactly to look for in evil. that is the tradigy.
Tragedy*
"Mankind could not know a liar" the first liar they met was God. He told them they would die if they ate from the tree. The snake told them they would not die. The snake told the truth and God lied.
@@benjohnis The first humans had child like minds. They have never experienced any evil ever.How easy is it to lie to a child? God never lied, the man who wrote those words lied. Those who claim authority in the name of a god, are liars. It was the death of innocents, and yes humans have been dying for thousands of years. You do not know a liar. "Snake" is a metaphor, silly, they had very simple minds back then, so they had to use pictures to explain their ideals. I see your child like mind believes liars.
@@benjohnis Your kind always blame God for what man has done or wrote. When will you take responcibility for your own inactions? When?
Lucifer was a high ranking angel, what we would view as a worship leader. He became lifted in pride and wanted to be "like the Most High". He came up with a plan, the first "conspiracy" to accomplish this plan. He convinced a portion of the angels that they could be separated from the Most High and their own god, and they could partake in the pleasures of the flesh and make "images" of themselves both male and female. Thus the "INsurrection" of the "elohiym" and the real story of Genesis 1. Humans, this flesh system was created for the sole purpose to give the angels that kept not their "first" "estate" but left (forsook) their own habitation and have been "reserved" in "everlasting" "chains" until judgement, a second chance, a chance to be REconciled to, REdeemed from, REpurchased by Him who loved us enough to provide a way back to Him. We are all prodigals and we each came into this flesh prison system in our own time, place and rank. The time is coming that believers are waiting for and that is the REsurrection. Can't take part in the REsurrection unless you were part of the INsurrection to "begin" with. The Most High did not create mankind for fellowship and then punish every human with being born in sin and born into death because of what "Adam and Eve" did. We're in this flesh because we all "ate" from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. The devil that deceived us is the god of this world who's spirit lives in each person, when we chose this we became 1 with him. The 2 became 1, think about the towers that fell and were replaced by one, the 2 became 1. That was a ritual mocking the scriptures and mankind as a whole and points us to "the beginning". Hebrew is alpha-numeric and each letter is also a numerical value, as is each word. The first word in scripture translated as "in the beginning" has a numerical value of nine hundred and eleben. No coincidences.
Jesus is Lord!!!
Lol
Amen.
Romans 5.12..through one man, Adam, sin and death began, (entered into the world). Adam disobeyed God and obeyed Satan's direction. God had warned him that if he ate from that certain tree, he would die. Satan said he wouldn't (he had just created him, why would he allow him to die)That serpent was wrong! From then on, Adam and his offspring were alienated from God's protective rule, removed from the garden and the tree of life that was there, and living with a genetic predisposition to sin and error ,and all condemned to die . In his letter To The Romans, Paul explains that source of sin and how all of us including he,himself, must strive against that inborn sinfulness, especially in this wicked world. But he also reveals there, that we can be reconciled to God through our faith in the value of Jesus sacrificial death. Romans 5.6to11
Paul's explanation of this and his confession of personal struggle helps us all to see a way forward through this present darkness...
Romans8.1 ...Therefore those in union with Christ Jesus have no condemnation. For the law of that spirit which gives life in union with him has set you free from the law of sin and death.
God created a world with real consequences, where everything matters. To do so He had to make error and failure possible. As Paul says..For the creation was subjected to futility, not by its own will but through him that subjected it, on the basis of hope that the creation itself also will be set free from enslavement to corruption.
It appears that Adam did not apologize for his error and ask to be forgiven. We can do so for our errors ,based upon God's arrangement for forgiveness of sin which is through faith in Christ Jesus. Ro3.21to26
The garden, walking with God, the tree, the serpent are metaphors. Not literal things. We chose and continue to choose the fruit and we continue to be separated from God and the garden.
@@somethingelse4150 John18.37, 2Tim.3.16,17
Love this man!
What about the other man?
@@mkultra2456 Definately not him, he's wearing Jesus creepers.
@@MrKnightlore lol ikr?
But where is the fear and suffering if Christ knows he's divine and immortal (because he is)? And everyone else is in danger (of hell), not him.
God is omnipotent, so he can feel fear if he wants. Better would question why doing all of this when he's literally omnipotent
Why Satan? Because someone other than God needs to be blamed.
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Suffering and... deserving? I think "deserve" have nothing to do here. We suffer regardless if we "deserve" it or not. Suffering is here to teach us what we have to learn. God don't gives good point to the ones who deserve them.
We all deserve to suffer. God is fair, He's also immensely Merciful
I'm not sure where you got that idea, but from how I understood it, that's what Peterson mentions: that suffering is more tragic the less the person deserves it. And because suffering is inevitable, whether or not it is deserved, is what makes life tragic, and how we must better ourselves to deal with that. After all, this talk was about the tragedy of the Passion in relation to the spiritual (ethical) transformation that comes through it, either our own transformation or the transformation of our community.
@@erasetoys1489 Are you saying that the Bible cannot be interpreted in many vastly different ways by people of different backgrounds? Because I've read enough of the Bible to know that Peterson is only emphasizing that God is merciful and empathetic, that God understands our suffering and seeks to help us out of it. If seeking to understand God better is nothing more than "humans trying to seem intelligent," then please, you shouldn't have engaged in this to begin with.
I really hope Jordan isnt trying to philosophize away the literal stories of scripture.
I think it’s more about pointing out why they are important and how they represent life so well regardless of your actual religious beliefs
I wouldn't think a man as intelligent as him would believe the nonsense in the bible as "literal." Talking snakes? Noah's magic boat? A genocidal maniac of a god? Etc.
I remember when my high school teacher analyzed Red Riding Hood like that... human imagination is so goofy.
I would advise a little caution there. Those old stories are intended to be archetypal as they're designed to teach lessons to children, so they have to present a generalised view on life so it can be widely applied.
@@JerGol my bad, but do you refer to the old story with the evil talking snake, or the one with the evil talking wolf?
I would say human nature in general is goofy. Why would one spend 15 dollars to sit in a cramped movie theater and watch other people dress up and pretend to be imagined characters? Why would someone put on headphones and listen to complex melodic patterns of sound vibrations? Music, art, archetypical stores, The Bible, and even children stories all point towards something that seems to be necessary for the human experience. Why? Probably because our minds can only understand the world through abstractions like movies and stories.
@@jeremiahnoar7504 All of these things are also distractions from the otherwise inescapable, maddening truth of our cosmic insignificance : ) the second our brains became capable of asking "why?", we were doomed lol it's not that these things help us gain ultimate understanding of any kind, it's that they give us excuses to live. This being said, some of the things you listed are less offensive to reality than others lol.
@@KangMinseok You're looking at it from an un-useful perspective. Anyone one can look at a time/space frame of reference where there actions are meaningless. Jordan Peterson called that a cheap trick of the faculty of reason. Chalking things up to cosmic insignificants isn't really all that useful either. You could call your impact on the universe useless, but you still have to go to work tomorrow, or study for school, or interact with people and things that will effect your lived experience today, next week in for the next 50 years.
A fabulous explanation Jordan. Thank you
It's sad to see a man knowledgeable about things of the world become an utter fool when it comes to the things of God.
Matthew 11:25
At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.
Satan isn't allegorical. He literally exists, but there is allegorical language used to help us understand his character as our enemy.
Lucifer is just a complex being, but he is not the source of all evil. He had good in him too.
@@Azelkiel56 No one ever made the claim he is the source of all evil. Saying he is our enemy doesn't imply that.
I’m really struggling to conquer my snake..
Woah buddy!
same I beat the fucker every night
Christ already conquered it on the cross, it is defeated. He takes it from you, you are free💕 one day at a time put your trust in Him!
With all due respect this sounds Heart feeling an Compassionate.But It also sounds deranged an sickening that this needs to happen for people to be save an good from the one who Created it like this.
Darkness is a LACK OF light. Cold is a LACK OF heat. Evil is a LACK OF righteousness. It just is. Switch off the light and we are by default plunged into darkness. Turn off the heat and we are by default plunged into cold. Cut off righteousness and we are by default plunged into evil.
If I were the priest I would not dare to arrange such an interview😅😅they do not realize Petersen's explanation is basically reasserting the Bible as a cultural (and archetypal, of course!) construct, and not itself the WORD of GOD!! Good luck with that!!🤣🤣🤣🤣
I found this to be a remarkably enlightening conversation, even moreso than usual.
Thank you.
Jordan, stop embarrassing yourself. Christian theology 101 teaches all men are BORN with Satan "in their heart" and, therefore,
MUST be "born again" by the indwelling Holy Spirit of God. You are becoming a two-bit con Jordan. Show more class and stop
pretending there is no difference from your secular mind and the spiritual mind of a regenerated person.
I barely started listening to Jordan Peterson, and I'm not the type of person that just listens to anyone and everyone. I'm very picky who I listen to but this great person, just grabs my attention and not only that, actually activates a consciousness. You hear people on Tv, they may grab your attention but are you "actually" listening to them? This man disperses knowledge and insight in a concisely dense manner right away. He would even pause to make sure he has the right thing to say as opposed to pausing to make what you said more valuable. That's real authenticity and my "being" is just picking up on this with this person. This man is onto something great with exposing the realities we live in, even through his own character of God working through him.
I personally think though, this guy should not be exposing any insight to these people working on Artificial Intelligence, it would just give them a stronger deceptive work to extort chaos on the understandings of the true realities God has designed.
Loved JBP til started talking this god and Christ babble. Breaks my heart that someone as intelligent as JBP would believe in such nonsense.
The concept of Christian religion. According to the Cristian Trinity ...the father is not the son, the son is not the father. the father is not the holy spirit. the father is God .the son is God .and the holy spirit is God. these are not three God but one God. If they are together one God .question did Mary get pregnant The answer is yes. now come to question Jesus made pregnant her mother because the father is God the Son is God and the holy spirit is God, and they are not three gods but together one God .wow absolutely not making sense.
Could i just point out how gracefully mr. Peterson is aging.... god bless you sir
this has to be a parody?
Post-crisis Peterson is very different.
Calm, humble. A bit slower with his words, but just as deep and intelligent.
What's PRE crisis Peterson
One more heroic dose of psylosiben will get you there, Jordan .😂😂😂
More pompous bungling drivel from Jordan. Tragic is when something bad happens to a person? So does that mean if someone steals my car that it is a tragedy? It is more of a tragedy if it happens to an innocent person? If someone steals my car and I did nothing to deserve it, then it is more tragic? Christ is the ultimate tragedy because he did nothing to deserve it? He actually did something. He got his followers to buy two swords and then used violence at the temple. When he was arrested one of his followers used a sword to attack those arresting him. By the way the score for people killed in the bible by Satan is 10. (Job's family) The numbers killed by God is millions. (Flood various acts of genocide) Satan has always got a bad rap
Why did he walk into the Temple and tilted the tables?
@@germaniatv1870 I don't know I was no there and we did not have a chat
Reading the comments absolutely 0% percent f the comments understand context and that sometimes when things are written i Greek and Hebrew they don't translate perfectly so you, yourself have to understand the Greek and Hebrew version first. Most of you are blasphemers, twisting the word for your own desires. Fools. I hope that one day you can study first and think before you speak
lol chill.
@@georgecopeland5426 "lol" how about you educate yourself and prevent yourself from sounding ignorant. Grow up kid and use your brain, wait I'll repeat that, use your brain before you speak
I wonder if JP has ever experienced something he can't explain naturalistically. Our wisdom and knowledge get beefy upgrades when we experience something that seems to break the prior rules. Like, what if 2 realities can sometimes share the same space. Have you ever felt like you've seen a demon in someone or an angel in another,? I once felt like someone reached out and placed their hand on my shoulder, assuring me at night when I worried in bed about the next day. It was terrifying, thrilling and comforting at the same time.
How is it? some dreams feel like a lost episode of Monty Python and others seem like a brutal premonition of the future with mushroom clouds and horror indistinguishable from reality. Something tells me a whole lot of us, if we could see it all as it really is, we wouldn't stray all that far from where we currently are. Maybe I hope you all have experiences like this.
A smart man for sure. But he is making gold out of shit. Sorry. But he really is.
King Jesus ❤
I really love Jordan. I connect with his mind and soul. He’s pretty cool. 🤓
The king of obfuscation.
Yahweh creates his own nemesis, then he wants to be known to man, so he appears to a couple prophets, then later decides to open up heaven to people, so he sends his son to be tortured to death so that people would hear about it....consequently, most humans don't worship Christ or Yahweh. Not the smartest god.
Interesting as always.
The old questions
poor mr.p. he is one confused guy. obsessed with the tragedy but never sees the surrender.
If you think the Word of God is merely an allegory you have MISSED IT
The word of God is sharper than any two edged sword.
Yeah, the allegory is there, but there’s a lot more to it.
It's all fabricated man made mythology stolen from the Emerald Tablets of Thoth.
@@misterknightowlandco As with anything. :)
It is I believe in any want to be Christians mindset, that one should go to the word a bit more often.
At the end of the day, even as a christian one might be better of going to the talmud or one of those old rabbi Jewish bibles at least for the old testament.
@@horsepowerenthusiast6933 a total lie and delusion
I just had a dream the other day that I smashed the teeth out of a snake and smashed his head...he was small and yellow with white colors.
Just type in "A Brief Look at Jordan Peterson" and be amazed.
god: if you eat from that tree you will die
snake to eve: you can eat anything you want and you wont die
eve to god: i blame the snake for making me eat that fruit
adam to god: i blame eve for making me eat that fruit
moral of the story: trust the snakes! they are the only who tell the truth and dont blame others
Ignorant bliss? I prefer dark Knowledge.
The real battle is spiritual.
This guy is getting weirder and wierder.
Theology is not his strong point.
Is it possible to recover from a romantic relationship where in your partner ended up being the sum total of all the fears you could have about a relationship/partner? Doesn’t feel like it is.
Yes it is, by putting your faith in Christ you can come to terms with understanding WHY everything in your life happened as it did, and how to avoid it and be at peace as you stumble forward into the future.
At this moment it doesn't feel like. The worst but true advice is in time it will heal. Right now, recovering can be feeling these emotions. You feel lost, and used because they did betrayed you.
You can see your errors, maybe you saw the red flag but choose to ignore it, or you were too lost in the thrill of it. Note them, but don't use it blame yourself for what has happen. It's a flaw that you now recognized to learn and work on.
But! You did not deserve the hurt and betrayal by this person, always remember that.
It's good if you can find something greater than yourself, something you can connect with. If it's not through religion it can be through nature or community. Often time serving other people, animals or plants can help you learn to love again, something that beyond romantic love.
@@abandonrz the extent to which I’m responsible for refusing to see the obvious is genuinely embarrassing.
This guy thinks he is Carl Jung
So we all have to suffer at some point to know and be with god and he gave us freewill only for it to be on his terms and in exchange we get a peaceful sorrow.
The Gospel:
Plain and
Simple
“But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent
beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your
minds should be corrupted from the simplicity
that is in Christ.” - 2 Corithians 11:3
Ask someone today if they are saved and
you will most likely hear responses like these:
“I have accepted Jesus into my heart.” Or “I
have made him Lord of my life.” “I’ve been
baptized.” “I said a prayer.” Sounds all good
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knows the gospel that saves them. These useless phrases don’t describe a thing about what
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leaves a more serious effect of people questioning their salvation.
Let’s not muddy the simplicity of salvation that is in Christ with vague church
sounding phrases that do not communicate
anything. But rather present God’s word with
clarity and assuredness. So here is the gospel:
plain and simple.
Sin was passed upon all men by one man
Adam, and death is a consequence of this sin
(Rom 5:12). Mankind has an eternal destiny of
condemnation and wrath - Hell - because of
this sin (Rom 6:23). No matter what good
works one might do we are still found sinners
in the sight of our Creator God. And all unrighteousness and those who follow get indignation and wrath. We cannot be found
righteous for by God’s law we are found sinners (Rom 3:19-20). If we have broken even
one law we are found guilty.
It is for this reason of not being able to
create our own righteousness and being born
in a sinful flesh that we need a savior (Titus
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2000 years ago. Taking upon him the wrath
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and resurrection on our behalf that we are
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Satan is our sparring partner.
At the end of the movie “Starman” when asked about his take away he said that humans are at their best when conditions are at their worst
I like that
Id amend that to "Some" humans.
Did satan ever actually have free will?
Yes He chose to turn away from God and 1/3 of the Angels followed him. They are the fallen angels that inhabit our world causing all this insanity going on. He knows God is the ultimate authority, but he wants to be that himself and replace God. Thats his plan which will ultimately fail.
@@AMKmusic96 why does he want to be god?
Thank You Dr.Peterson for your hard work and dedication. If you only helped 1 more person as much as you have helped me. That in itself would make all your hard work worth the effort. I owe you more than I could ever repay. Godspeed and God Bless!
Nicely explained
Can we take a moment to appreciate the 3 piece suit
Jealousy is one of the reason for torturing innocent ones👍
Demonic jealousy in fight with angelous jeaulousy. The better always wins. 🍷🐳
@@alexluthiger731 what's the difference between demonic n angelic jealousy?
So the whole thing about the crucifixion is is that in the biblical sense the heavenly father purposely created impregnated Mary with a son for the sole purpose of doing so so Jesus was forgotten by the heavenly father by pregnant impregnating Mary with him with Jesus to be sacrificed he was literally created for that purpose and supposedly saving us from damnation for our sins so it wasn't like he had some other purpose to sole purpose of the crucifixion was to save us from our sins so we wouldn't burn in hell forever that's the reason why Jesus existed is it not so tells you something about the morality of that one huh
When they're talking about Jesus embracing his end when he was literally created for that purpose so how is there something that he would have to literally not be created for that purpose to embrace an ending that he already knew instead thus created for that purpose to save our souls our sit us from our sins he would know that from the beginning when he so he was made for that purpose designed for that purpose created for that purpose so there's no coming to a sense of embracing it he was created for that purpose that's not that something embracement that's literally created for that purpose that would be like creating clones of a person just to kill them and having them know it the whole time that's not an embracement but he also he he would also know why so there's no acceptance there he already knew he was created to do so he knew his purpose and if you already know that purpose and and why that purpose is there's no embracement because you literally no you're not going to die right how are you going to all I'm embracing it I'm going to die when that is literally substantially nothing and you know you're going to live on anyways that'd be like go ahead and do whatever you want man you hurt me and everything but you'll never ever kill me I will rise and I will do this and this and that and blah blah blah that's secure the word can't believe but you keep believing in your God just like Jesus said
The cross has an important meaning, but once you go all the way to understand the resurrection and live after that, you will understand why we should not worship the cross, and the importance of eternal ordinances and covenants.
It is Jordan's understanding of Christianity that's stunning, a non Christian with such a beautiful understanding.
I wish Christian's would take note...
Is it certain that he’s not a Christian?
@@SenorRosenberg well at least that is what he says.
Mate, he’s a convert, from hard core factual philosophy to tragically wishy washy belief!
@@svenerikmoeller8809 wishy-washy belief? What’s that about?
But he could say that about the church but maybe he just didn't notice the people going to church because before he got sick he wasn't going as much
Ho ho all in the guys what's his name John or effort names but anyways I got speaking when he says when they put it at the center then all sudden the commercial comes on and it's loud and it says just all the sudden nerds it was hilarious
The Padre is correct when he talks about the Resurrection being central to the Passion. But so is forgiveness. No one is immune from suffering but the worst suffering is self-inflicted; hate. Hate is corrosive to the soul and over time will consume you. Forgiveness is the medicine and like many medicines may seem bitter but in the end it is necessary:
“When you hate, the only person who suffers is you because those you hate probably don't know, and those who do, don't care.” ― Medgar Evers
Now go drink Jesus's blood and eat his flesh. Metaphorically speaking of course! Yesss.... of course... heheh.
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A lot of people did there were tons and unknown people that were crucified in the same way there's nothing significant about them doing it to a bunch of people compared to in one person
What a load.
THIS SEEMS BE SENSE. THE SERPENT..PASSION.
DEVIL SPEAKS BACKWARDS.
SATANNATAS...SO!
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NOTHING THAT BECOMES
SOMETHING...SERPENT!!!!! LOL
DESIRE BOUND..
LOVE AND HATE.
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Nonsense...
Who opened the eyes of man to his nakedness? Satan!
There are revelations that comes with surrender and repentance. To accept that is inevitable....only with, through, in, on, the knowledge of what, who, why is JESUS..
jesus endured the cross, despising the shame, "for the joy set before him" ........... an eternal weight of glory 2 cor. 4:17
I've met Jesus and God, I know they are real for a fact and I can lead most if not all of you(your own will deciding)to the Father, the Son and the Holy spirit.
Or you can ignore me and go find out yourself, that's what I did, and I was a christian all my life before that, all you have to do, is fold your hands, pray, and ask anything and everything you've ever wanted to ask, of course be respectful and realize this is not a game, if you think it is and you think your smart, and you think I'm lying, or you think I'm some bible basher I challenge you.
Go the full mile, do it yourself, see if Jesus and God are real, you don't have to sell your soul to Jesus and God to meet them.
Set the intention in your heart, if you find yourself thinking sometime, hmmm I really wonder if all these wacky christianity people are saying is true, then in your head right there as you've asked it, think to yourself, in your head, Dear Lord(out of respect you ask the Lord anything you want to ask of God)/Dear God please if you are real, or if Christianity is real, please prove it to me.
Watch, wait and listen carefully, the sings will be there, if Jesus and God have decided to bless you with such knowledge.
I myself, have a sorrowful story, 25 years of pure fucking misery on this earth, I've broken most if not every commandment, and probably done every conceivable wrong/sin possible except rape /murder, and I met Jesus, I SAW God with my own eye, I had covered the other one because I was too scared to peek with both, not only that, I spend a good two/three nights in consistent communication with the spirit of God.
I also have been smoking weed(12) and playing videogames(5)basically all my life, been a complete lazy depressed, anxious grumpy negative slob, and kind of still am, but I'm a lot better of than others.
Thank the Lord and God for that.
Satan's Mother is found in Revelation 17-19 of The Holy Bible - The Arch Angel Revelation
I like Jordan Peterson but sometimes he completely blows it... there is this incredible push broom oculto beer and rewrite and redouble their efforts as to what was said or what was done ? Maybe go back to the Gospel of Thomas ? Where Jesus is responsible for murder ? The strange part is that the gnostics to accept Jesus. Yet the church in Constantinople in 1001 commit genocide upon the gnostics hardest text and then call it fiction. Except for some parts of course... you know the necessary control pieces. And what for centuries they end up worshipping Cesar Borgia as a Jesus image ? There are two facts about the cult of Aberham an this includes Catholics, Jews, Muslims, and Christians. There is an unbelievable amount of blood on your hands. There is no unbelievable amount of corruption, disillusion, collusion and down right underhanded Behavior. I've known quite a few from the Church of Satan. The strange part is that there are the most considerate concern well-read and decent people I've met in this world. And I had to be ordained Buddhist to marry my ex-wife. So a lot like the "not beautiful" comment ? Whereas we can all accept the fact that anything that brings life into this world is actually beautiful regardless... and not just respecting the fact that I believe you are very talented doctor in a very talented speaker ? You tend to be persuaded by a side of outright lunacy. And in some cases end up being a shill for it ! Because I don't believe and you don't believe Penguins migrated to the Middle East to get on a doomed boat ride from God. Nor do you believe in creationism if somehow you needed to fit 56 million animals on a boat ? And that boat would have to be bigger than the size of Rhode Island. Noah himself would have to be 50 ft tall to steer it. And of course it doesn't say farts because anything scientific at the time was related to carpentry or the science of building. All well an fine. I see the intention from the heart. So I might consider that very irrational from a psychiatrist
Hebrews 1:1 --God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
2Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;--------
------So if the life of Christ is the standard by which the Father God speaks to us then show me Where does it say we are to be infirmed? "only thing Jesus cursed was the fig tree
The worst possible tragedy is Christ suffering at the end of his life? He had to be crucified to forgive people of their sins (what an illogical action to cause that to occur). He probably knew he wouldn't suffer in the afterlife, the suffering lasted only a few days. Compare that with a kid who lives in a war torn area. The father is killed while he is working in a field, her older brother went off to fight and is in a prison camp, her mother was raped while she had to watch, and she was sold into sex trafficking where she suffered for decades while being forced to stay alive and being traumatized every day and likely in a severe amount of pain. All while getting diseases, being freezing cold or unbearably hot, having mosquitoes eat you alive, starving due to lack of food provided. That is much worse than Christ on the cross. If Christianity is true, I want nothing to do with God, he ultimately allows the world to be as evil as it is. And I won't be with the devil, perpetuating evil. Should I fight the devil in the afterlife, what's the point? Apparently, God wants him to be powerful, and I'm sick to death of Gods stupid game of life and making people suffer. If the Christian God exists, I want him to permanently destroy my soul so I cease to exist. After decades of inner psychological torture that I have endured, I know that being created was a curse, not a blessing.
Satan is not the devil, Dr. Peterson. Never was, never will be. Lucifer was the devil. Satan was the prosecutor in heavenly court, as shown in Job. This myth needs to stop.
I love the religious talks. But I wonder if the catholic church paid Dr. P. To do this podcast. Because they definitely have some rebranding and image repairs.
Here is the plain truth that all people need to know.
All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. -Romans 3: 23
The wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. -Romans 6: 23
Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. -John 14: 6
Whoever believes in Jesus has eternal life, but whoever rejects Jesus will not see life, for God’s wrath remains on them. -John 3: 36
Believe in Jesus and you will be saved. Then read the Bible, pray to God and obey Him.
I hope you will consider the great importance of your eternal soul.
That's not how it works. Faith without works is dead. Christ is the mind before the ego (Satan) takes reign.
@@chrisparker2118 Hey Christ, thanks for the reply!
It is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God-not by works, so that no one can boast. -Ephesians 2: 8-9
I hope you will consider what the Word of God says. Put your faith in Jesus alone and you will be saved.
God bless you always.
@@adamsanchez222 You have much to learn about scripture and of yourself, my friend. I asked God what separates us from him. And to my surprise, the answer was communicated immediately. It is our will that separates us from God and it is our will that brings us back to Him. The letter aleph has a upper yud that represents the father above and the lower yud represents the son (us) below. The vav separates the upper yud from the lower yud, however, it also connects the upper yud to the lower yud. So, the line of separation is simultaneously the line of connection. So, our will separates us from Him but simultaneously connects us back to Him.
My favorite verse is when Christ says if you have faith the size of a mustard seed, you will say to this mountain move from here to there and it will move and nothing will be impossible to you. A mustard seed is the smallest of seeds, so how can it move a mountain? Here's how. It never forgets its a mustard seed. It knows its a mustard seed and will take root and grows into a large tree in some of the harshest environments, never forgetting what it is. We must remember who we are. That's how we are saved. Recognizing and understanding that we are the center of the heart of the Creator.
@@chrisparker2118 Hey Chris, I appreciate your thoughtful reply.
You believe the scriptures? That's wonderful. We cannot pick and choose what scriptures we like and do not like. Nor can we manipulate them to say something other than what they say. I will give some statements and verses that plainly say those things.
Jesus is God (John 1:1, John 1: 14).
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. -John 1:1
The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth. -John 1: 14
Jesus is truth (John 14:6).
Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. -John 14: 6
There is only one Jesus (John 3: 13, John 3: 16)
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. -John 3: 16
No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven-the Son of Man. -John 3: 13
Only Jesus can save you from death in your sins (Acts 4: 11-12).
Jesus is “’the stone you builders rejected, which has become the cornerstone.’ Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved.” -Acts 4: 11-12
We have no power on our own and can do nothing outside of Christ Jesus (John 15: 5)
“I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing. -John 15: 5
I love you Chris, but if you don't put your faith in Jesus Christ alone, then you are not saved according to the Bible and you will perish. But I believe God loves you and He is patient with us. God wants all of us to repent of our sins, trust in Jesus Christ and receive eternal life.
The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance. -2 Peter 3: 9
I hope you can see that I am not competing with you, I only want you to know the truth, that faith in Jesus Christ is the only way to the Father. I hope the Lord will open the eyes of your heart to know this.
God bless you and keep you.
@@adamsanchez222 My friend, I am not trying to change what is written in scripture. However, there is more to the words in scripture than what is read at a superficial level. Even the individual letters themselves have a deep meaning that cannot be understood when simply reading them literally. For instance, the letter bet means in, inside, and house. Genesis begins with the letter bet. This is extremely important to understand, because it implies that creation starts inside which helps understand the tree bearing fruit whose seed is within itself. This tree bears the fruit of consciousness which flows from with in (singularity of the seed) to the with out (expanse of the fruit). Jesus said he is the alpha and the omega. Most take this as the beginning and the end. Which is true, but it holds a deeper meaning which is the flow of consciousness from the singularity of alpha to the expanse of omega. O-mega means expanse, vastness. Elohim, which is a masculine plural, also represents the expanse which is why Elohim parts the seas. The seas are vast and expansive. This is the flow of consciousness from the seed of the individual mind (thought) to the fruit of words and action. This is also represented by the mark on the forehead (thought) and the mark on the right hand (action). Since we are created in the image of Him, this is how consciousness flows from the oneness (seed) of the Creator to the all encompassing allness of creation (fruit). The word Torah even comes from a root word that means to flow.
Also, when the letters of the first verse of Genesis of properly paired, the form what's called the two-torus. Inside the two-torus is a vortex that can be called the flame of consciounsess. This toroidal vortex draws every letter of the Hebrew aleph-bet. So, the letters of the first verse of Genesis creates a form that creates the letters themselves, giving a whole new understanding of the tree bearing fruit whose seed is within itself. You can look up Stan Tenen's work with the Meru foundation to have a better explanation of the toroidal vortex flame of consciounsess. He has some videos on YT which give great insight. There is so much that can be said that I just don't have a good medium to use to give a very clear explanation. Everything is interconnected and related and truly understanding one thing requires understanding a whole host of other things to get the whole picture. But it can all be summed by one simple truth: As above, so below. And as below, so above. This leaves us smack dab in the middle as the living, beating, heart of God.
Satan? Are you kidding me? If God is the Alpha and Omega and knows everything he already knows the choices you will make because he made you and thus you had no choice it was his will. And blaming Satan for something please God is all-powerful he allowed Satan to do it.
Peterson needs the Holy Spirit. Only then will he know the truth, the way, and the life.
What is the truth, the way and the life ??
Don’t say Christ 😂😂😂 let’s be specific
I’m sure you’re not intending to imply that the Holy Spirit is not actively using him, while also wooing Him!
No he really doesn't
Listening to Peterson, I'd say he's seen the writing on the wall.
@@jameson95x,
You seem confused... Christ is a specific answer... and the correct one.
2 Neph 2: 11: For it must needs be, that there is an aopposition in all things. If not so, my firstborn in the wilderness, righteousness could not be brought to pass, neither wickedness, neither holiness nor misery, neither good nor bad.
Amen
It's interesting that 666 is often associated with evil, considering that it is such a harmonious and naturally ubiquitous sequence of numbers. Nature tends to arrange itself in threefold and sixfold geometry. The hexagon is one of the most stable geometric shapes in nature, while the pentagon is also associated with satan. Why would a god of "good" design the universe such? I think I'm missing something here. If anyone has any insight into this from either a mathematical or esoteric/occult perspective I would really appreciate it...