Did The Devil and His Angels Lose Their Salvation?
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- Did Lucifer and his angels lose their salvation?
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How you're able to pack so much wisdom into a video under 5 minutes long totally blows my mind 🤯. Lol😂. God bless bro.
It's the Holy Spirit working within Bro.
Amen!
Amen Glory to the Holy Ghost.
The Holly Spirit guid him! The same thing that the Spirit will guide,too, you after you believe on Christ!
He doesn't fluff because he is actually invested in winning souls and not earning profit.
Brother I thank God he sent you to RUclips
Amen!
Yeah this guy is legit, so many false doctrines on RUclips, this guy actually has it down
I've learned a lot because of your hard work for God's kingdom. No nonsense teachings..
@@jaysonb.6669bro what?
Oh just wait some people will reply with their favorite verses to discredit him but stay strong friends God Bless!
They never had salvation. Like Judas Iscariot who never was saved. Lucifer and his angels rebelled against Our Heavenly Father. They had no salvation to lose. They were just a bunch of losers who never had anything. Time is growing short and Victory over satan and his goons will soon be won!
True, brother. Being in a state of innocence is not salvation (hence why the unborn go to Heaven if they are put to death). Adam wasn't saved before he sinned, but he was not condemned nor with sin: he only needed to be saved FROM SIN once he sinned. Biggest difference between the sin of angels and the sin of the children of Adam (besides the fact that Christ came to save sinful men only) is that angels were immediately sentenced because they sinned in the Judgment Zone of God's heavenly throne.
The devil is the paragon of a loser. He is THE loser that epitomizes all losers. His loss is foretold thousands of years before it even occurred, sucks to be him.
@@gunstar168 The biggest difference is also that angels were already in Heaven. We humans get the opportunity to be there or not. Death locks in our own humanly final decision.
@@creatingattractive when atheists and liberals realise the Devil isn't some cool, powerful, fun loving guy but is instead a condemned loser
@@phoenixgamer1565 I suppose that's because after death, we also witness the Judge in all His glory, just as the angels that rebelled against God (or clave to, in the case of the non-fallen angels, also called the "sons of God" in Job (becoming sons by the same way we humans do: by faith in Him)) were in the Judge's fully-glorious presence at that time (rather than how we are in this world: seeing through a glass darkly).
This further proves the Hypostatic Union: God became man, not God became an angel (nor that an angel became man: Hebrews 1:13-14). Great observation, brother Ono.
Which completely obliterated today’s saying for a passed loved one,”Heaven received another Angel”.
That’s one of the most disservice comforted lie we could do for those around us!
Tell that to the Seventh Day Adventists, who teach that Jesus is Micheal the Archangel.
Nothing in the presentation proves the hypostatic union. Christ became AS a man and took on human GUISE (phillipians 2:6-8) but was
still fully divine, but NOT fully human. Modalists rightly assert that the tertullian trinity is a late Christian addage and never was part of the original church.
@@hogansheroes2793SDA is a false religion, but they do not teach that about Jesus. I think you're confusing mormonism or jehovas witness.
@@mbwilson8592 Nope, it's the SDA church that teaches that Jesus is Micheal the Archangel.
Jehovah's false witnesses also teach that.
The devil and his angels can't be saved snice they experienced God face to face so they have no excuse
That's exactly what I was thinking, too, brother. Just like Adam was without sin before he believed and was only condemned once he knew sin (Romans 7:9, Galatians 3:24, same for anyone in a state of innocence, such as most children and the unborn), angels were condemned once they knew sin (yet, unlike Adam, they were also immediately sentenced, since they knew God in His full glory as Judge and yet rejected Him).
Right they are spiritual beings and operate outside of time like the God.
Adam and Eve were just souls who sined that’s why God said Jesus would come later on and crush the serpent head.
And we become spiritual beings when we receive the Holy Spirit and will have our true forms on judgment day
Faith is to believe and trust God when you cannot see Him. Angels already saw God they cannot save or forgive by God when they rebel against God.
I understand the gospel of Christ and I have trusted in Jesus Christ finished Work on the cross His Death Burial Resurrection Blood and I am forgiven and have eternal life///// what about the fallen angels did they have eternal life? And what about the angels that are not fallen to they have eternal life can anyone explain to me about this will??
@@brendangoodbrand2597 Faith is about to believe and trust God even they dont see God. Fallen angels are already see God face to face and thats their choice to reject and rebel against God. Theres no forgiveness because they are already in Heaven with God.
Praise God for your channel thank you for this!!
I had to rewind instantly due to laughing out loud… “conditional security” LOL that’s awesome I’m using that! Keep in the fight brother we are praying for you. These videos are spot on! Glory to God!
It's annoying when people say,
"It's not good enough to just believe because even demons believe."
God didn't come to save demons.
Lmao
You’re laughing at Scripture when that verse is designed to move you working your faith out with fear and trembling?
@@jordanmcpherson3794 You're so busy here in the internet on condemning people because "they didn't preach" when you right here have a huge log stuck in your eye? What makes you better than us, who were once wicked people but were saved through faith alone, that you should stand in the position of God to judge us as unworthy of being children of God?
Yes, demons might be believing in God more than us mortals because they see God face to face because they are spiritual beings.
We are saved by the precious redeeming blood of Christ forever. We will have incorruptible bodies in heaven. Hypothetically if we could sin in heaven we would still be covered by the blood of Christ and still be under the new covenant. We are already condemned as guilty before God in the flesh but made alive and quickened by the Spirit. We are dead men walking but we are alive (born again) by the Spirit in Christ. God sees us as perfect and sinless as Jesus and we still sin everyday. Imagine living for eternity in fear that you could lose your salvation. We are covered by the blood of Christ, and a part of his own body. We cannot lose our salvation.
Amen Brother! This is short but powerful message.
Great Bible teacher.
Amen Brother
Finally i been waiting for this video,. Thanks man for real!!!
So simply and clearly explained, thanks bro 👍🙏
Amen brother N 👍🏻👍🏻
God bless
Can you cover Matthew 25? the parable about the goats and the sheep.
That's a parable between the sheep (beleivers) who will stand justified and cannot be condemned of their sins because they are covered by the blood of Jesus and the goats (the unsaved) who can only be condemned of their sins since they weren't covered by Jesus.
@@7NorthStarThat's for service, not salvation.
Salvation is absolutely free and not conditional upon service to God.
James is really about having a practical faith that helps others, nothing to do with salvation at all.
@@samirpernell2136 Except that it says _" I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of Mine, you did for Me."_ By contrast it could not be a brother of Christ addressed since it is the brother who receives said charity, or lack thereof. The first of the three parables anticipates Jesus' return and the last is His return. It begins: _"When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the angels with Him, He will sit on His glorious throne"_ All thereafter is the millennial kingdom, when the Son of Man comes, which is not the Cross. Neither are the sheep of this age moved to the right for charitable works.
@jacobsilverberg1329 But if you were to take all of the parable literally, where would that place the thief on the cross? He had no works. What about those who put their faith in Jesus at the end of their lives? Will they be goats according to Jesus?
@@7NorthStar Faith that works is just another cleverly repackaged version of faith plus works equals salvation nonsense.
Great explanation.
Amen brother i love your videos
They completely disregard what the word salvation means..
You don’t need salvation unless you’re not in right standing to begin with
Well said
The angels were obviously created with free will. The garden was a mirror of that. It says in Romans they are without excuse.
"Even the demons believe" gets thrown out thete alot
Amen!
Thank you Ono for your videos. I would like to start publishing RUclips videos proclaiming the gospel, and you have helped me by being a role model. Glory to God and thank you for your videos.
Only JESUS the Creator is naturally perfect
Angels had to choose to believe in JESUS to freely receive his spiritual perfection(eternal life), or choose to reject it & rebel(devils)
Believing in Jesus had nothing to do with angels being in Heaven. Jesus Christ can only save human beings. Angels that rebelled against God did so as their final decision. They do not want to be in Heaven.
Pure biblical teaching without playing on emotions like calvinists like paul washer or macarthur and piper. These people complicate the gospel by their over-intellectualized discussions over something that even a simple person should understand. Over the Gospel there is no need for long-winded debates and sermons, which is why your videos are short and to the point. You can see the inspiration of the Holy Spirit.
Power of God. and. Eternity. and. Will of God to reconcile all things unto God. and. Incomprehensible Magnitude and Perfection of the Love of God. Altogether must surely necessitate the inevitable forgiveness of all sin by all creatures, including the celestial.
Of course, this is simply the most recent iteration of my sincere and humble position, on the matter.
Take care and God Bless.
Col 1:16
For by[fn] him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities-all things were created through him and for him.
Col 1:20
and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether on earth or in heaven, making peace by the blood of his cross.
Because Satan must be included in verse 16, he must then be included in verse 20. So yes salvation is offered to everyone including Satan, but due to hardness and light he was given he cannot repent.
I agree Adam and Eve were sinless as well and look what they did. Even if they were persuaded it doesn’t change the fact that they willfully disobeyed god. Yet look how god forgiveness came quick, so why would god not try to do the same for satan.
It makes sense why demons are so wicked. If there’s absolutely no hope for a positive ending for them, why bother doing anything good?
Then what about:
Colossians 1:20 "and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or *things in heaven* , by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross."
”For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.“
Galatians 5:13 KJV
Amen.
Blessed is thee who listen to the truth.
1 John 2:4, 3:6. 1 Corinthians 5:11-13. Revelations 2:18-29, 21:7-8. Hebrews 10:26-29. Galatians 5:21. Just to name a few.
@OnoratoDiamante can you do a video on Romans 13?
Technically, they didn't have salvation. Salvation was never offered to them. They were God's servants, not his sons.
Idk if you have done covered it yet Ono, but could you do a video on Luke 3:9 and Matthew 3:10. Ty for all of this, it really helps. God Bless you all.
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@@OnoDiamante Just watched it, tysm for that explanation. Your videos have given me the true gospel. Jesus is our only way to Heaven. Thank you for helping me realize I'm truly saved. Now I'm just trying to repair and recover from that mindset and doubt.
Love your videos. But I did some grappling. And I noticed your right ear. You do MMA, grappling or wrestling? Thanks and god bless brother!
BJJ
Kinda really hard to believe that the devil would repent (change his mind)...
Can you make a video on how to present the gospel to someone?
Hello brother. Could you touch on the book of life and blotted out ect? Just explain everything about the book of life and lambs book. I think i know what the book exactly is but I'd like to hear your opinion
Will you do a video on what a lukewarm Christian is?
Amen 🙏 brother in our Lord Jesus Christ ✝️ God bless
Our Lord Jesus Christ died for mankind but, our Lord Jesus Christ did not die for angels.
Jesus Christ of Nazareth, the sinless Son of God, offered Himself on the cross as a perfect sacrifice to God for the atonement of sin and reconciliation of sinners to God. Through faith in him, our sins are washed away by his blood, and we are made holy and blameless in God's sight. It's rare for someone to die for a righteous person, but God showed his love for us by having Christ die for us while we were still sinners. Christ, who, being in the form of God, didn't cling to his equality with God but made himself of no reputation and took the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: and being found in human form, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross, that he, by the grace of God, should taste death for every man. And God raised him from the dead and therefore exalted him higher than all the heavens; far above all principality, power, might, dominion and every name that is named, that in all things he may have the preeminence, both in this world and the world to come. That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven, and on earth, and under the earth; and every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Christ died, rose, and lives again as Lord over the living and the dead, giving everlasting life freely to all who believe in Him to the praise of His glorious grace.
They were perfect from the beginning knowing good & evil but Chose to Disobey unlike us who were to trick to disobey.
This is The Difference, We did not knew any better but Satan Knew what Evil was yet He Chose Evil instead of Good.
Further proof can be found in
1 Corinthians 6:3
3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?
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Hi my good good friend I see you're doing my mission well 😉😉
How do you pronounce your channel name? Iv been wanting to mention your channel to some friends 😅 but I have no idea how to pronounce it.
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My fellow brother in Christ, I want to humbly ask you a question because i am ignorant to the truth of it.
Some church leaders say that our good works count as rewards in heaven. I was wondering if this is true? Could you please shed some light on this with the power of the Holy Spirit and the word of God?
Yes what ya think
Angels are different in that they were already in Heaven. We human beings have the opportunity to go to Heaven, while the angels that rebelled chose to give it up. Angels cannot be saved as this is their final decision. Similarly, death is a human being's final decision to receive salvation through Jesus Christ and be reconciled so they can go to Heaven, OR to reject God as the angels did themselves.
Howdy Onorato or anyone reading this. Been going through some old sin again, and it has left me in despair and worry. I just want to make sure with what I am about to say. Jesus Christ died for my sins and through him I am forgiven and he is the only way that I am saved (salvation). I prayed to him after and said sorry and asked for the holy spirt to help me and such. God bless y’all. I need some help or some words thrown my way.
You are feeling conviction from The Holy Spirit, but you are not condemned. For no mere human is without sin, but through the process of being sanctified, we are bothered by sin and want to turn from it. Jesus and Him alone is what justifies you in the eyes of the father.
If you believe you will be saved, until you feel guilt while sinning that's good, the holy Spirit is working on you.
Pray more, love God more, it's a spiritual war, keep fighting with prayer. You cannot lose the salvation by the way!
@@mbwilson8592Thank you so much brother. Recently been remembering things I’ve done in all ranges and when I day dream, it just hits me, the wages of sin is death but I try my hardest and best ability to always remember that the lord Jesus Christ died for me, I am. It perfect I can’t do it without him.
@@christ_for_lifeAmen to that man, I’ve fallen tons of times, I have fallen short of god and times felt guilty really bad but I always tell the lord Jesus, that I will not give give up on him because he didn’t give up on me on the cross. Through him and only him I am saved. Much love man.
Can you do a video on mark 9 : 43 -48? Jesus is talking to the 12 and seems to say their sin can send them to hell. Please show how this fits with eternal security.
One must be born of Water & of the Spirit to be Saved.
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@@OnoDiamante I didn't say baptised bro. I believed what you believe before you did. Take some time to read and think before shooting back bro.
@@danielstorey3696 Relax. Maybe clarify your comment before citing an excerpt twisted by proponents of baptismal regeneration.
@@OnoDiamante Please don't take my directness as if I'm being rude...
But you known the Word bro. Why do I have to elaborate it for you??
You try to talk about why the devil and demons can't be saved, and all I did was provide a more simple explanation for it. You should have known exactly what I was talking about immediately.
Unless you're born of the Water and of the Spirit you can't be saved. Bang, simple, walk away...
Unless of course you're referring to my comment in a way where I should be explaining it for others who might read it, then yes I agree that I should be elaborated on, but only if I say it in response to somebody else's comment. But i wrote that to you, nobody else.
And God is just telling me to share this with you perhaps there's something in it that you can relate to at the moment:
I Learnt the exact things you're been teaching here 20 years ago. It's all I care about to this day, and find it extremely hard to assimilate with other so-called believers & churches.
I used to care about "setting people straight" with the Word but i was left frustrated because once you've sorted everyone out around you, you've got a whole new generation coming up to sort out as well. it's a never-ending cycle and you'll wear yourself out. How do I know? Because the exact same rebuttals that you're getting for the true Gospel that you're preaching, I've been seeing for 20 years non-stop... it never ends.
Forget about these people bro. Focus instead on all your brethren around the world (including me over here in Australia) that believe exactly what YOU believe. And remember when Jesus told the disciples that if people don't receive their message to walk away? He said nothing else (besides dusting your shoes).
And by the way Brother, you can be stubborn for God's Word without being arrogant; God is telling me this is something you need to let go of.
@@danielstorey3696 Enough with the “God told me” nonsense. Maybe you’re having a tough time “assimilating” because you resort to childish rhetoric like “I knew this way before you did!”.
They also fell before sin and death entered the world. They couldn't have had salvation if there was no death to escape in the first place, yeah?
Ono, why do you think God did not offer salvation to the angels as well? Ive always wondered that
The word salvation is in the same lineage of the word salvage. A device that is brand new and perfect isn't salvaged. Only a device that needs some sort of repair and renewal can be salvaged.
The devil never had salvation because when he was still a good angel, he was already perfect. Salvation is only for those who need to be repaired and restored and Lucifer wasn't in a position to need restoration when he was still perfect. So how could he had fallen away from salvation? No, he had fallen away from perfection.
I'm not sure who uses the idea that Lucifer's fall is an example of how one could lose their salvation but they are surely mistaken. It's not even a well thought out comparison.
Hey, can you explain Jeremiah 32:40
I was thinking about this the other day as Ray Comfort, is it a coincidence that his initials are RC, always says that the devils believe and tremble?
Angels were never "saved" Some of them rebelled and their willful rebellion is eternal. Only sinful man can be saved.
I don’t think salvation exists for any angelic being due to they don’t need a savior like man does. As for Satan, he never had salvation, but will have the wrath one day.
Seventh Day Adventists say that.
How did they have no salvation to lose when Lucifer fell and took 1/3 of God's angels with him you can't explain to me that they once had salvation and they didn't you're in heaven with God ruling with God we understand Jesus is the Salvation for us the key thing is is like I said before you cannot believe if you do not obey that is just common sense God bless have a great day
Hell was created for devil and his angels
They were never saved
Can you tell me where from the beginning of creation God created Evil angels, separated from Him, and the Lake of Fire or even Hell? Form the beginning of time, please. Tell me, heretic.
@@SanctusGratia Matthew 25:41 KJV: Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angel
I believe Jesus rather than a fallible man like you. That is assuming you are a man
Do you monetize your videos?
Yes.
@@OnoDiamante Do you believe that monetizing videos that spread the gospel is right?
@@EldoradoTexas Absolutely. Are you being charged to watch these videos?
So the angels had salvation....FROM?
Yep , The Devil and his angels never had eternal salvation to lose. Neither did Judas . I feel sorry for the " loose it " crowd who are unable to find a biblical example of a poster boy for their lost cause. 🥴
Don't we judge the angels as well? 1 Cor.6:3 and Isaiah 54:17...especially since satan is the accuser
I didn't think they had salvation due to them being different beings entirely Jesus died for man after all right?
Jesus is abounding in mercy and grace that we cannot fathom. There is no condemnation in Christ Jesus. But, that being said, if we are commiting willful sin, meaning that if we decide to live according to the flesh in spite of convictions from the Holy Spirit and knowledge of the consequences, and if we continue down this path, then we can indeed 'forfeit' our salvation.
Can you? What's the cutoff limit? That means I am probably lost. I hope that's not true. I hope that nothing can separate us from the love of God that is in Christ. I hope Jesus is stronger than my shortcomings. I sin and the wages of sin are death - this is a consequence of sin. I fall short and sin - I deal with consequences in my life. But it isn't about my strength. I am weak and I fail often. It's about God's strength and goodness. Nothing cannot separate me from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus.
@@jordanmunk3041 Very true. Nothing can separate us from Christ's love and yes, it is not our strength, but God's strength in us. But, willful sin and living in sin, is not how we are to act as Christians. We all fall short, we all sin. I sin everyday, but when I fall, I repent and get back up. When we fall, we must fall forward towards Christ. The difference is turning our back to God and choosing to live to our own desires. Stay on the path my friend.
Matthew 24:9-13 -
“Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and put you to death, and you will be hated by all nations for my name's sake. 10 And then many will fall away[a] and betray one another and hate one another. 11 And many false prophets will arise and lead many astray. 12 And because lawlessness will be increased, the love of many will grow cold. 13 But the one who endures to the end will be saved."
@@jordanmunk3041 Very true, nothing can separate us from God's love. We all fall short. I sin everyday, but the difference is, we must fall forward to Christ. We must repent and get back up when we sin, not give in, turn our backs to him and choose to live for our own desires. That's willful sin. Stay on the path my friend 👍
Matthew 24:9-13 -
“Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and put you to death, and you will be hated by all nations for my name's sake. 10 And then many will fall away[a] and betray one another and hate one another. 11 And many false prophets will arise and lead many astray. 12 And because lawlessness will be increased, the love of many will grow cold. 13 But the one who endures to the end will be saved."
Im pretty salvation was only for humans because we needdd saving from our sins.
thats what he said.
Actually, "ha satan" (Hebrew for "the adversary") was/is not a fallen angel at all but a tool for God to use as He saw fit (Job 1). Ha satan was was created as the tempter or the deceiver from the very start. God does want people to freely accept Him as their Lord so he uses Satan as a tool, to weed out those who would have no desire to serve and worship Him. When God is finished with him and the "demons", God will simply dispose of them (burn them up like chaff in hell) and we Christians will then enter the new heaven and new earth.
Eze 28 was using poetic language to condemn the King of Tyre, and Isa 14 was using poetic language to condemn the King of Babylon! Plus, Satan was not named Lucifer, the word lucifer is a Latin word meaning "light-bringer", it's found only in your KJV of the Bible. Most more accurate translations don't have "lucifer" in them at all.
He was created perfect and later iniquity was found in him.
God's foreknowledge does not equate to forced knowledge.
@@hogansheroes2793 If Satan and his angels fell were once "good" but didn't disobeyed God and became "evil", why aren't they in the prison mentioned in 1 Peter 3:18-20, 2 Peter 2:4 and Jude 6? How are they still loose and running around?
@@whitebeardInn I think that is some of them, in particular the ones who saw the daughters of men and took them for wives.
they never had salvation to begin with LOL
That is the most ignorant concept I have ever heard. Jesus didn't die to save angels.
Jesus is the Son of the Living God. Jesus was crucified and died for the sins of the world. Jesus's Blood was shed for the forgiveness of sins. Jesus was buried for three days. Jesus was raised from the dead by God. Jesus left the tomb. Jesus was seen alive by Cephas, the twelve, James, all the apostles, over 500 brethren at one time and Paul. Jesus is Lord.
No 😂they are made perfect so Jesus Christ didn’t die for them there was no forgiveness with them
that's literally what he said
@@Bones2Ashgood thing your here to confirm it.
Angels are spiritual beings like God and witnesses the full glory of God and operated outside of time and sined
Adam and Eve were just souls who sined that’s why God said he would come later on in time to crush the serpent head.
At the end of the day if you are no longer welcome in Heaven, And the only Future you process is torment in the lake of fire.......At that point doesn't really make any difference that they did, or didnt lose salvation to begin with??
Eternal security is biblical!
Anything else said is heresy and a lie from the pit of hell!
Think about it??
If salvation had anything to do with a sinners efforts i.e
Get salvation,
Stay in salvation,
Keep salvation,
HEAVEN WOULD BE EMPTY!!!
Because No one could ever make standard,
EVER PERIOD!
( this is not referring to angels in anyway)
Jesus Christ (God) died for human beings not for the demons or angels. Which is why He refers to Himself as the Son of man to identify Himself with fallen men (Us human beings) not the demons or angels.
Amen.