I started oiling for my Dad when I turned 17 years old and was operating full time 2 years later. I loved Northwest shovels and would probably still be doing it if they were still in use, although I'm too old now. They were the epitome of machinery to me!
Started working for North West in 1971. Loved it ! A model 41, was also a big seller. I worked in 3 areas ... Main machine shop / Gear hobb / Tool room . Tool Room had the men who could fix, or build ANYTHING ! Was a fascinating place ! Bill Thomas
You forgot to mention what made a NW shovel as they called it "real rock shovel" which was the dual crowd. The hoist rope leads over the boom sheives and is not merely deadended on the boom but is brought a drum at the foot of the boom. The crowd rope comes off that foot boom drum also powered by a chain from the crowd drum. Both ropes torque are applied to the crowd simultaneously up through the shipper block via the crowd rope . (Hence the name Dual crowd") sorry little wording here but anyways you couldn't beat the power of a NW shovel through a cut back in the day. One old timer told me he could rip right through stratified rock with an 80D. Impressive
Great run through. 80-Ds literally built New England's highways. Luckily there's one restored and running at the Zagray Farm Museum in Colchester, CT. If you're ever in the area, make a run over there.
I oiled on an 80-D in 1977 that was so dirty it just had a butt rub streak from behind the operators seat to the back of the engine compartment. when I got through with it, a mechanic said it was the cleanest shovel he'd ever seen!!!
Those were some hard days setting in the back of that NorthWest 80-D with my box of rags and my gallon jug of diesel fuel. I tell yall, those shovels made sounds that weren't meant for the human ear!!!!!!
The old Murphy's were interesting and all the shovels I was around were like the one you ended up as far as you cleaning them up. No slobs and some of the oilers ran them as much as the operators. I ran a Model 6 with a headache ball and a 25 with a drag bucket. Ran more left handed rigs than right handed though. 99% straight mechanical. Smaller ones to get around better.
Only ran one manual 80. In '77 my Dad got us a package deal with Florida Rock, who had bought out Dixie Lime & Stone in Georgia, and there I got a taste of Bucyrus Erie with the 30, 38, 71, and 88-B-III. It was tough to go right handed!!! Would rather oil on NorthWest 80-D than any others!
thanks Justin for all your hard work getting all the info and your walk around it shows that you know what you are talking about when you make a video.
Excellent video, 5 stars! One minor correction, however. The small air toggle on the left for the boom just shifts the jaw clutch for the boom hoist. When it's in (engaged) and the swing mode out, the swing lever will raise and lower the boom.
God, what a beautiful old shovel, too bad she had to be scrapped! Hope those smaller levers (on the left side) arent as complicated as they appear. Thanks again for another EXCELLENT vid.
These old girls helped build the world as we know it today. Big by old standards, they are toys compared to modern machines. But the cool factor is off the charts!
+Luis Gonzalez The levers on the left were surprisingly simple. Basically just air switches but you had to have the right combination or bad things happened.
Seems like the machine could have been easily sold as a restoration project. It appears all there, & in very good condition for its age. I'm sure someone or a group that restores antique heavy equipment would have loved to have this old shovel, & might have paid more than its value as scrap for it. I'm sure some old machines in worse condition than this shovel have been restored. The decision to scrap it instead of sell it seems like an inspiration comparable with Fed Gov't stupidity & waste.
Was that filmed at Hanson's Curtain Hap Quarry? I m sure it was, have crawled through that machine numerous times. Lol. Love those old things. Keep up the good work !
Perhaps you could make contacts with a mining museum or antique equipment collector in your area and when something comes along like this you could put them in touch with each other .
+dactgsr1 They had a small friction driver that operated a 3/8 inch cable that ran to the trip tounge in the bucket. If you didn't have that tounge shimmed right it was a bitch to get to open. Drop it and rehaul quick and it would trip (open) every time! Just one of the few tricks you learned operating a shovel!
PAmining, ot is so sad to see this and all good operating pieces of equipment meet with the death by torches. I heard the old 6 Yd Lima was cut to scrap, unconfirmed as yet. Do you have any of the loading shovels of the Lima 4 to 6 Yd ? Appreciate these fine videos.
I started oiling for my Dad when I turned 17 years old and was operating full time 2 years later. I loved Northwest shovels and would probably still be doing it if they were still in use, although I'm too old now. They were the epitome of machinery to me!
Started working for North West in 1971. Loved it ! A model 41, was also a big seller. I worked in 3 areas ... Main machine shop / Gear hobb / Tool room . Tool Room had the men who could fix, or build ANYTHING ! Was a fascinating place ! Bill Thomas
I just bought a model 41 Northwest Pullshovel. Last one that’s still left.
You forgot to mention what made a NW shovel as they called it "real rock shovel" which was the dual crowd. The hoist rope leads over the boom sheives and is not merely deadended on the boom but is brought a drum at the foot of the boom. The crowd rope comes off that foot boom drum also powered by a chain from the crowd drum. Both ropes torque are applied to the crowd simultaneously up through the shipper block via the crowd rope . (Hence the name Dual crowd") sorry little wording here but anyways you couldn't beat the power of a NW shovel through a cut back in the day. One old timer told me he could rip right through stratified rock with an 80D. Impressive
Great run through. 80-Ds literally built New England's highways. Luckily there's one restored and running at the Zagray Farm Museum in Colchester, CT. If you're ever in the area, make a run over there.
I oiled on an 80-D in 1977 that was so dirty it just had a butt rub streak from behind the operators seat to the back of the engine compartment. when I got through with it, a mechanic said it was the cleanest shovel he'd ever seen!!!
Always amazes me how some operators can never take the time to clean their machine
PAmining Like an old timer I worked with said that they were interested in 2 things- quitting time and payday.
Those were some hard days setting in the back of that NorthWest 80-D with my box of rags and my gallon jug of diesel fuel. I tell yall, those shovels made sounds that weren't meant for the human ear!!!!!!
The old Murphy's were interesting and all the shovels I was around were like the one you ended up as far as you cleaning them up. No slobs and some of the oilers ran them as much as the operators. I ran a Model 6 with a headache ball and a 25 with a drag bucket. Ran more left handed rigs than right handed though. 99% straight mechanical. Smaller ones to get around better.
Only ran one manual 80. In '77 my Dad got us a package deal with Florida Rock, who had bought out Dixie Lime & Stone in Georgia, and there I got a taste of Bucyrus Erie with the 30, 38, 71, and 88-B-III. It was tough to go right handed!!! Would rather oil on NorthWest 80-D than any others!
You did a very good job of showing us around the shovel . Thanks
i'm glad you got to document it before it was scrapped. Thnx for the tour around it.
thanks Justin for all your hard work getting all the info and your walk around it shows that
you know what you are talking about when you make a video.
Excellent video, 5 stars! One minor correction, however. The small air toggle on the left for the boom just shifts the jaw clutch for the boom hoist. When it's in (engaged) and the swing mode out, the swing lever will raise and lower the boom.
You did it again! another great and informative video!
Great video. Good to see such an old machine in such good condition, hopefully it doesn't now get destroyed!
Your welcome and glad you enjoy them! I'm all about quality with my videos
God, what a beautiful old shovel, too bad she had to be scrapped!
Hope those smaller levers (on the left side) arent as complicated as they appear.
Thanks again for another EXCELLENT vid.
These old girls helped build the world as we know it today. Big by old standards, they are toys compared to modern machines. But the cool factor is off the charts!
Thank you for the details.... Great video.
+Luis Gonzalez The levers on the left were surprisingly simple. Basically just air switches but you had to have the right combination or bad things happened.
Seems like the machine could have been easily sold as a restoration project. It appears all there, & in very good condition for its age. I'm sure someone or a group that restores antique heavy equipment would have loved to have this old shovel, & might have paid more than its value as scrap for it. I'm sure some old machines in worse condition than this shovel have been restored. The decision to scrap it instead of sell it seems like an inspiration comparable with Fed Gov't stupidity & waste.
Was that filmed at Hanson's Curtain Hap Quarry? I m sure it was, have crawled through that machine numerous times. Lol. Love those old things. Keep up the good work !
Loved this versatile machine..
They were very popular!
Perhaps you could make contacts with a mining museum or antique equipment collector in your area and when something comes along like this you could put them in touch with each other .
Great video.
Kyle
Huh I didn't know that, very interesting!
Thank you!
I've heard those Murphy's are good engines and also have some value as they are hard to come by
Curious how you open the bottom of the bucket to dump?
+dactgsr1 They had a small friction driver that operated a 3/8 inch cable that ran to the trip tounge in the bucket. If you didn't have that tounge shimmed right it was a bitch to get to open. Drop it and rehaul quick and it would trip (open) every time! Just one of the few tricks you learned operating a shovel!
Thanks
You welcome
This machine was scrapped in the spring of 2012. Apparently you didn't read the description lol
PAmining, ot is so sad to see this and all good operating pieces of equipment meet with the death by torches. I heard the old 6 Yd Lima was cut to scrap, unconfirmed as yet. Do you have any of the loading shovels of the Lima 4 to 6 Yd ? Appreciate these fine videos.
+Greg “Banjo Greg” Cantrell No but I will have documentaries on the Lima 1201 and 2400 draglines coming up in the future
Thank you, PAmining, I sure do love to look over old times. Thanks, God Bless
thx for your videos,but sorry for my english,its very interesting,of the Czech Republic holds the thumb in the future:)
I would have but it was scrapped before I could inquire more about it
bumper it was scrapped.that is the faith of alot of cool equipment.
I only have about 5 photos of her from the outside. This machine has been scrapped
I know, and it was in mint condition. Apparently there were no buyers
could you give me some photos of it ? nice video!
What a shame to scrap that machine!!
You can't scrap that! They would have gotten more money selling it to a collector!