western contracting corp. helped to develop this truck and had a big fleet of them.they were used on the missouri river dams they built.the exhaust were run through the box so material did not freeze to them.i worked for western in 1956.they were one of the biggest dirt movers in the world at that time. Dave Lilley
From back in the day when this country was still an industrial powerhouse and "you cant build that" wasnt even in the vocabulary. You could probably count the number of those monsters on one hand that are still around.
I love the Euclid Terex machines. From the green paint to the screaming Detroits, they were in a class by themselves. Justin, please keep doing these videos. They are much enjoyed. Maybe a doc on the 72-31 front end loader?
What a beauty! Probably one of my favorite mining trucks of all times! I have the model die-cast version of that truck in 1/50 scale and the vintage matchbox version. Sad to see it rot like that, it should be restored to its former glory.😎👍
I wish I had the money to buy an restore these! There is an old Euclid sitting in the woods about a 10 min walk from my house.. It's been parked in the same spot for as long as I can remember (about 25 years) it probably wouldn't take an awful lot to get it running there is still a coffee can on the exhaust.. There is also a Hydra Unit Excavator a Fiat Allis Loader, 3 or 4 1960's era Mack Tandems.. and a D8 but it's sitting beside the garage. ( it's my neighbors stuff they came with the property it was an old strip mine)
Great video and explain ing the truck. I live about 2 miles from the Old Terex Dealership in Murray City. I've heard and seen that model run when I was about 10 . I'm just about 55 . The dealership is long gone. Thanks for the fun today
Thanks, you’re presentations are researched and well presented. This old equipment all had its day and without your thoughtful reviews they will slowly rust into history and be forgotten. Thank again I’m subscribing. 👍
Enjoyed the video and your expanded knowledge on these end dumps. Spent a fair amount of time in one of these during the 30 years in the business. It was a punishment for a crime I didn't commit. Enough for a grown man to cry....
Awesome looking truck! It's a shame to see many of these pieces of equipment just sitting and slowly deteriorating. It would make for a interesting restoration if someone had that kind of time and money. Keep up with your excellent videos, I have learned a lot of history on mining equipment.
This is literally the only known video of this machine, I can find 0 info on this rig. This guy is a real gem, for his knowledge. And joy to listen to, reminds of maybe Dan Akroyds brother
There is one in a really great museum in the iron range. I'm from New Zealand and came across it in my journey when I drove USA in 2008. It's in better nick then this one, they have so many machines, steam shovels, train steam shovels all sorts of great old gear
Loud noises scale. Fire alarm: No pain. Truck horn: Mild. Train horn: Moderate. Tornado siren: Severe. Rocket ship: VERY SEVERE! The twin engines in a Euclid LLD: AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!
They used these on the Marquette Iron Range in Michigan's upper peninsula back in the early days of open pit iron ore mining. When I started at the mine in 1974 they had 65 Ton Dart and 75 ton Wabco Haul Pac. Then they got 4- 85 ton Terex. Next they got some 95 ton Euclids, they looked the same as the others, one single engine. Then they got 120 Catapilars, then 170 and 190 ton Dressers. By 1992 they had 240 ton Cats. They had V16 diesel engines of , not sure of the Hp rating, maybe 2800 to maybe 3200. These were the last of the trucks with mechanical rear differentials. The 240 ton Dressers were diesel electric like a RR locomotive. The engine runs a DC generator and each rear set of duals has a DC motor that drives it. After I retired, I understood that they bought a fleet of 20 - 300 tonners. I never heard what brand, but I'm pretty sure they would be diesel electric as well. They even got a couple of diesel electric loaders with, I think it was 32 yrd buckets on them. They were La Turnue brand. The guys called them, Mary Kay after the famous teacher. There was a DC motor on each wheel. The electricians hated them because they couldn't get the motors synchronized so they were fighting each other. The motors not the men.
When I was a Operating Engineer apprentice mechanic in 1971 ,Worked for a contractor that had some of these, we cut and removed a small section of the upper part of the rear part of of the box and rewelded that 12X6 inch section on each side of the box.So instead of hauling 62 yards they hauled 60 yards so they payed the union teamster drivers .15 cents an hour less.But they still hauled more than 62 yards.The boxes were measured by cubic yards of area and by removing that small section of box made them haul the less amount.
My grandfather drove a Euc belly dump in the southern indiana coal mines in the 40's. He was struck by a loaded coal train in 1949 and was thrown thru the windshield. Almost killed him! Spent 8 months in the hospital
Last year there was a Euclid twin-engine, rear dump at the Brownsville, PA show. I saw it idling but not doing much else. I can only assume it some mechanical issues. The bed was much shallower without the side extensions. Standing next to it, it was impressive.
I remember as a kid Euclid was demoing the 3LLD at mines in Minnesota. Everything at the time from pocket bridges to shop doors was set up for 20 and 34 ton Eucs with 6-71 engines. These were much wider and didn't fit anywhere. They could only be used on stripping hauls to the dumps. It was a downturn anyway and nobody bought them. By the time anyone was in the market for new trucks again in the late 60s and 70s Euclid had fallen apart into Terex and Lectra Haul came along with a quantum leap in technology and became the dominant truck.
That truck is in great shape body not all banged up, must have been a good operator and a well run pit to keep it in that condition. Throw on a coat of paint , would look like new. Great video of a rare machine.
I grew up in the gravel capital of the world(at the time, now, I'm sure that statement is debatable), Oxford, Michigan, there was a pit called American Aggregate, we lived probably 4-5 miles from the gravel pit as the crow flies, you could hear the Euclid Dozers & pit trucks with there Detroits screaming at full throttle at our house.
+midway27272727 I believe it was sometime in the 90s before it was parked. Hard to remember, I've talked and met with so many people over the years haha
If you don't mind what part of pa are your videos shot in and if you don't want to that is fine I'm from around the Frackville area surrounded by reading anthracite mines and enjoy learning about the old mining history thanks for the videos and keep up the great work
As always, fantastic video! That's interesting how they routed the left driveline through the first axle housing. Being that there are 2 engines and transmissions powering 2 separate axles, was there any sort of differential mechanism to prevent one engine and trans from dragging the other? Due to differences in terrain affecting the front and rear axle independently and being that both engines and transmissions can't be "timed" to work perfectly together, it seems like there would be issues with one drivetrain overriding the other.
+UnitCrane514 Euclid pioneered the "TwinPower" concept with these trucks, the TS series scrapers & of course the TC-12 dozer. The secret was the use of the Allison Torqmatic transmissions. The differences in speeds & traction was all taken by the Torque convertors, as they could absorb any variations in the two drive trains.
These twin powers had a very unique sound, especially the ones with GM diesels, as the engines went in and out of sync. They didn't sound at all like a V 12. We had a lot of 1LLD's here in Miinnesota and it sounded like bees in the distance on hot summer nights when these things were running. There's a video on RUclips that shows a 1LLD that still runs. ruclips.net/video/2uCqtWNFTqY/видео.html
You did GOOD! I never knew there was such an animal. Bet it was something inside the cab, even though the 6-110's maxed out at 1800 if I remember rightly. I just got up to an R-35 and a 22 but those were enough. The 35 had a 12-V with a shot exhaust system and it'd rattle your fillings when it got to 2300 and the governor caught it. But a Euc is a Euc is a Euc. All laid out pretty much the same way. I saw the drag bucket and the crane peaking around the corner. A-PLUS!.
At the local boulder hole they had a 771, a 773 and the R-35. I ended up in the 35 because I could herd one without any brakes and they hid it when MSHA came. It was a beast but had the coil springs so it rode fine. I just liked terrifying everybody with the Buzzin Dozen and the non-exhaust system. Couldn't get any riders but I took advantage of all the racket and the old Allison. It was a trip and a half and I usually ended up hauling mud from the settling ponds after it had dried somewhat. Just as a Euc is a Euc, goo will always be goo. Shake it a little and the water will come to the top.
Look at the industrial design on that magnificent beast. Old world pride. It just looked like it was designed to work hard, not like some candy-ass pussy parlour today's soft fat-assed occupational health and safety-obsessed driver gets to work on his air-conditioned mobile phone using shift. But more importantly It's like this brute just stopped there, where it is and has somehow managed to avoid decades of mindless abuse from brain-dead vandals and drug-affected graffitti morons. It really should be restored and then put into a museum to ensure that others may realise that times haven't always been so pink and soft.
where is this critter at , back east in a coal mine? It deserves to be restored and put to to proper rest in a museum somewhere . Never had a chance to operate this Beast but did run a smaller EUC. They are noisy and hot but what a kick. Like the watch commercial they take a licking and keep on ticking.
One of the copper mines here had two of these just sitting in their boneyard, rotting away. I kept trying to buy them, but the mine kept saying no. Later when the mine closed they were sold as scrap.
Well Matt, guess you better correct the engineers from Euclid. Because those words came right from the specification sheet for this truck. And yes, solid front axle, with LEAF SPRINGS.
This thing should be in a museum!!!! Way to cool!
+Ajay Henderson It should, the twin engine Euc's are probably my personal favorite trucks! Thanks!
Thank you for the amazing history. Most people would do a boring walk-around. The amount of engineering on this beast makes it a work of art!
western contracting corp. helped to develop this truck and had a big fleet of them.they were used on the missouri river dams they built.the exhaust were run through the box so material did not freeze to them.i worked for western in 1956.they were one of the biggest dirt movers in the world at that time.
Dave Lilley
Amazing piece of mining history. That unit should be saved and restored. Great video as always
From back in the day when this country was still an industrial powerhouse and "you cant build that" wasnt even in the vocabulary. You could probably count the number of those monsters on one hand that are still around.
6-110 Detroit, same engine the Budd RDCs had. Enjoying your vids and your knowledge of this equipment.
I love the Euclid Terex machines. From the green paint to the screaming Detroits, they were in a class by themselves. Justin, please keep doing these videos. They are much enjoyed. Maybe a doc on the 72-31 front end loader?
You will see a documentary on a 72-71 in the future :) thanks!
What a beauty! Probably one of my favorite mining trucks of all times! I have the model die-cast version of that truck in 1/50 scale and the vintage matchbox version. Sad to see it rot like that, it should be restored to its former glory.😎👍
i have never seen such an old haul truck! amazing.
I wish I had the money to buy an restore these! There is an old Euclid sitting in the woods about a 10 min walk from my house.. It's been parked in the same spot for as long as I can remember (about 25 years) it probably wouldn't take an awful lot to get it running there is still a coffee can on the exhaust.. There is also a Hydra Unit Excavator a Fiat Allis Loader, 3 or 4 1960's era Mack Tandems.. and a D8 but it's sitting beside the garage. ( it's my neighbors stuff they came with the property it was an old strip mine)
That's the most interesting truck I ever seen
Great video and explain ing the truck. I live about 2 miles from the Old Terex Dealership in Murray City. I've heard and seen that model run when I was about 10 . I'm just about 55 . The dealership is long gone. Thanks for the fun today
Imagine the sound of that thing!
Thanks, you’re presentations are researched and well presented. This old equipment all had its day and without your thoughtful reviews they will slowly rust into history and be forgotten.
Thank again
I’m subscribing. 👍
Enjoyed the video and your expanded knowledge on these end dumps. Spent a fair amount of time in one of these during the 30 years in the business. It was a punishment for a crime I didn't commit. Enough for a grown man to cry....
+societyschild 54 Glad you enjoyed it. And yes, I've heard that from many operators who spent time in the seat of one of these rigs!
The commentator is very well informed and very through good video
Awesome looking truck! It's a shame to see many of these pieces of equipment just sitting and slowly deteriorating. It would make for a interesting restoration if someone had that kind of time and money. Keep up with your excellent videos, I have learned a lot of history on mining equipment.
This is literally the only known video of this machine, I can find 0 info on this rig. This guy is a real gem, for his knowledge. And joy to listen to, reminds of maybe Dan Akroyds brother
There is one in a really great museum in the iron range. I'm from New Zealand and came across it in my journey when I drove USA in 2008. It's in better nick then this one, they have so many machines, steam shovels, train steam shovels all sorts of great old gear
Another great video PA! A very unique & pioneering truck. No wonder they called the little man "Pioneer Pete"!
Awesome what you can find in quarries still today. Thx for all the infos my friend!
A beauty,should be on a postcard!
Loud noises scale.
Fire alarm: No pain.
Truck horn: Mild.
Train horn: Moderate.
Tornado siren: Severe.
Rocket ship: VERY SEVERE!
The twin engines in a Euclid LLD: AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!
They used these on the Marquette Iron Range in Michigan's upper peninsula back in the early days of open pit iron ore mining. When I started at the mine in 1974 they had 65 Ton Dart and 75 ton Wabco Haul Pac. Then they got 4- 85 ton Terex. Next they got some 95 ton Euclids, they looked the same as the others, one single engine. Then they got 120 Catapilars, then 170 and 190 ton Dressers. By 1992 they had 240 ton Cats. They had V16 diesel engines of , not sure of the Hp rating, maybe 2800 to maybe 3200. These were the last of the trucks with mechanical rear differentials. The 240 ton Dressers were diesel electric like a RR locomotive. The engine runs a DC generator and each rear set of duals has a DC motor that drives it. After I retired, I understood that they bought a fleet of 20 - 300 tonners. I never heard what brand, but I'm pretty sure they would be diesel electric as well. They even got a couple of diesel electric loaders with, I think it was 32 yrd buckets on them. They were La Turnue brand. The guys called them, Mary Kay after the famous teacher. There was a DC motor on each wheel. The electricians hated them because they couldn't get the motors synchronized so they were fighting each other. The motors not the men.
Very cool tha ks for sharing!
Thanks for sharing this interesting documentary. This twin engine rock truck looks forgotten in the middle of nowhere :-(
I would just bet they sounded amazing when they were in operation! I wonder if there are still any operating today.
Love these videos, you do an excellent job! Thank you!
+Thomas Reed Thanks; glad you enjoyed it!
Needs to be in a museum.
very interesting never ever heard of such a truck but then I am not near mining like you are. thanks for your great walk around.
I believe I have the HO scale, AHM "MiniMovers," version of this Euclid truck. It was molded in orange plastic.
When I was a Operating Engineer apprentice mechanic in 1971 ,Worked for a contractor that had some of these, we cut and removed a small section of the upper part of the rear part of of the box and rewelded that 12X6 inch section on each side of the box.So instead of hauling 62 yards they hauled 60 yards so they payed the union teamster drivers .15 cents an hour less.But they still hauled more than 62 yards.The boxes were measured by cubic yards of area and by removing that small section of box made them haul the less amount.
Very knowledgeable ...... thanks fur sharing.
My grandfather drove a Euc belly dump in the southern indiana coal mines in the 40's. He was struck by a loaded coal train in 1949 and was thrown thru the windshield. Almost killed him! Spent 8 months in the hospital
Last year there was a Euclid twin-engine, rear dump at the Brownsville, PA show. I saw it idling but not doing much else. I can only assume it some mechanical issues. The bed was much shallower without the side extensions. Standing next to it, it was impressive.
I'm from a town called Mineville in northern NY. Euclids were the only brand used in this area as far as I know
What an interesting piece of equipment!
I remember as a kid Euclid was demoing the 3LLD at mines in Minnesota. Everything at the time from pocket bridges to shop doors was set up for 20 and 34 ton Eucs with 6-71 engines. These were much wider and didn't fit anywhere. They could only be used on stripping hauls to the dumps. It was a downturn anyway and nobody bought them.
By the time anyone was in the market for new trucks again in the late 60s and 70s Euclid had fallen apart into Terex and Lectra Haul came along with a quantum leap in technology and became the dominant truck.
Very interesting. I know there's still a handful of the LLD's parked in the weeds up in minnesota
That truck is in great shape body not all banged up, must have been a good operator and a well run pit to keep it in that condition. Throw on a coat of paint , would look like new. Great video of a rare machine.
Awesome as always! Thanks for the video.
excellent,, look forward to next posting,,,,
Loved this old beauty.... Solid truck with great power... Not lik todays trucks with fancy gizmos
A brutal device! Thanks!
+Justanoldguy '46 They were brutal to drive back in the day. Thanks!
Great video, thats a rare find
wow how cool is that ! thanks for sharing
Your welcome, glad you liked it!
That old lady needs some TLC. Sad to see her rusting away.
I hope we will be seeing a video of that big Lima dragline soon!
+UnitCrane514 I haven't shot that one yet, but I intend to
Sad to see the old girl languishing like that so far from her glory days.
Really nice video. thank you
I grew up in the gravel capital of the world(at the time, now, I'm sure that statement is debatable), Oxford, Michigan, there was a pit called American Aggregate, we lived probably 4-5 miles from the gravel pit as the crow flies, you could hear the Euclid Dozers & pit trucks with there Detroits screaming at full throttle at our house.
Great video, Thanks ! When is the last time that truck operated ?
+midway27272727 I believe it was sometime in the 90s before it was parked. Hard to remember, I've talked and met with so many people over the years haha
Cool I have never heard of a duel engine vehicle it sounds like a kid would think that up.
If you don't mind what part of pa are your videos shot in and if you don't want to that is fine I'm from around the Frackville area surrounded by reading anthracite mines and enjoy learning about the old mining history thanks for the videos and keep up the great work
+Shane Chappell My videos are shot all over the state. And I'm very familiar with that area, been on those sites many times! Thanks!
As always, fantastic video! That's interesting how they routed the left driveline through the first axle housing. Being that there are 2 engines and transmissions powering 2 separate axles, was there any sort of differential mechanism to prevent one engine and trans from dragging the other? Due to differences in terrain affecting the front and rear axle independently and being that both engines and transmissions can't be "timed" to work perfectly together, it seems like there would be issues with one drivetrain overriding the other.
+UnitCrane514 Euclid pioneered the "TwinPower" concept with these trucks, the TS series scrapers & of course the TC-12 dozer. The secret was the use of the Allison Torqmatic transmissions. The differences in speeds & traction was all taken by the Torque convertors, as they could absorb any variations in the two drive trains.
great video
great story !!
Kewl Euclid!!! I wonder what is the failure rate on the transmission?
Great video man, I can't believe how much old iron is sat about ... the open pit coal must have been huge even back then ?! This North America?
Yes, this is located in Pennsylvania, USA
Beautiful machine. =)
What if the transmissions where out of sync? Great channel!
+Teddy Bass That was a common problem with these twin-engine trucks as they got older, and one reason why they were eventually phased out. Thanks!
so in usa you leave old piece of equipment here, rusting in the nature when finished using it??
Very Very cool
Nice.
These twin powers had a very unique sound, especially the ones with GM diesels, as the engines went in and out of sync. They didn't sound at all like a V 12. We had a lot of 1LLD's here in Miinnesota and it sounded like bees in the distance on hot summer nights when these things were running. There's a video on RUclips that shows a 1LLD that still runs. ruclips.net/video/2uCqtWNFTqY/видео.html
You did GOOD! I never knew there was such an animal. Bet it was something inside the cab, even though the 6-110's maxed out at 1800 if I remember rightly. I just got up to an R-35 and a 22 but those were enough. The 35 had a 12-V with a shot exhaust system and it'd rattle your fillings when it got to 2300 and the governor caught it. But a Euc is a Euc is a Euc. All laid out pretty much the same way. I saw the drag bucket and the crane peaking around the corner. A-PLUS!.
+Lewie McNeely Yes a Euc is a Euc. And ask any old timer how they were to drive and I'm sure they won't have a good story about it haha. Thanks!
At the local boulder hole they had a 771, a 773 and the R-35. I ended up in the 35 because I could herd one without any brakes and they hid it when MSHA came. It was a beast but had the coil springs so it rode fine. I just liked terrifying everybody with the Buzzin Dozen and the non-exhaust system. Couldn't get any riders but I took advantage of all the racket and the old Allison. It was a trip and a half and I usually ended up hauling mud from the settling ponds after it had dried somewhat. Just as a Euc is a Euc, goo will always be goo. Shake it a little and the water will come to the top.
Look at the industrial design on that magnificent beast. Old world pride. It just looked like it was designed to work hard, not like some candy-ass pussy parlour today's soft fat-assed occupational health and safety-obsessed driver gets to work on his air-conditioned mobile phone using shift. But more importantly It's like this brute just stopped there, where it is and has somehow managed to avoid decades of mindless abuse from brain-dead vandals and drug-affected graffitti morons. It really should be restored and then put into a museum to ensure that others may realise that times haven't always been so pink and soft.
So it's fair to say that the modern version of this LLD is an EH1100
What is the crane in the back ground at 12:53 ?
+57WillysCJ5 That would be a Lima 1201 dragline
Restore it and put it in a museum
Is it for sale??!!!
where is this critter at , back east in a coal mine? It deserves to be restored and put to to proper rest in a museum somewhere . Never had a chance to operate this Beast but did run a smaller EUC. They are noisy and hot but what a kick. Like the watch commercial they take a licking and keep on ticking.
Would this also referred to as a 'TD62'?
+Jeff Hager No, the 5 and 6LLD's were always known as the R-55, and later, the R-62 Series.
Need to be restored
Ran the R50 euc with cumin s and Detroit
One of the copper mines here had two of these just sitting in their boneyard, rotting away. I kept trying to buy them, but the mine kept saying no. Later when the mine closed they were sold as scrap.
New battery clean fuel new filters and either I bet it wuld start.....doubt it wuld build air pressure
so the truck has two six speed trans so it was a 12 speed total
+Robert Jackson No, it's still a 6 speed truck. Both transmissions have the same gear ratios and shift together simultaneously
I'm in love. I need it.
How long has she been sitting?
+TheMrKeys I believe it was parked in the 90s if I'm correct.
That's NOT independent front suspension! You can clearly see a solid axle.
I'll still give your a thumbs up... Great video's otherwise....
"Independent front leaf spring suspension". Wrong! It has a straight solid front axle which is NOT independent.
Well Matt, guess you better correct the engineers from Euclid. Because those words came right from the specification sheet for this truck. And yes, solid front axle, with LEAF SPRINGS.
They should restore it xd
someone save that old dino.
someone needs to take the old truck and restore it back to working order ! sad to see the old truck just setting there rotting away !!
Poor old girl
Great video