Single Dosing Mod Workflow 2 | Eureka Mignon Silenzio and Rancilio Silvia V6 with PID
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
- Here’s another single dosing mod for the Eureka Mignon series. This one is well known among the community and I personally find this version of the hopper to fit and look very good - matches the black Silenzio perfectly. The silicon bellows make a big difference. The hopper seals better than the one i’ve got previously, the silicon bellows create a better seal as well. The bellows include a tiny hole on top for a better airflow, the manufacturer thought of everything. The shipping was surprisingly fast (coming from the US to Europe), it only took little over a week or so with standard shipping.
Let me know if you have any questions about the two hoppers and bellows i’ve tried so far.
I am not affiliated, associated, endorsed by, or in any way officially connected with the manufacturer of this mod.
I find that with my current temperature setting this particular coffee tastes really nice with the following recipe:
Dose: 18 grams
Brew time: 25 seconds
Brew weight: ~35 grams
Temperature : 93°C
About the coffee :
Roast: Light-Medium
Origin: Ethiopia
Region: Tega village, Bonga, Kibo, Kaffa
Farm: Kewo (Tega and Tula)
Varietal: 74165, 74110
Growing altitude: 1830-1870 Meters
Process: Natural
Flavour profile: Tart, syrupy and super fruity
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That bumping of the portafilter at 02:24 is perhaps the most overlooked action in the workflow of most people.
Nice job buddy
Thank you Omer!
Flawless and very relaxing to watch 😌
Thank you, and thank you for recording with me always ❤️🥰
Love the content. Keep up the good work. 😃☕️
Thank you ☺
Beautiful bar and video!
Thank you!
Very nicely done.
Thank you Ben, and thanks for leaving a comment!
That is a sexy grinder. Cool aesthetics
Thank you!
Super! 👍👍👍
Thank you Ivan!
Needs improvement, the outer wall on mine split after the second use and I had to glue a rubber O ring on the bottom to make up for the 1/4" gap where ground coffee would collect.
Hi! I had to do some modifications to it as well. I used foam tape at the bottom of the throat and black PVC tape around the throat to create a perfect seal. Thanks for the comment!
What grind setting are you using? Just got a notte and ordered the Etsy single dosing top as well…. Constantly get channeling no matter what grind setting i used - from 6- 0…. Just want to see if I’m in the ballpark/// (probably my basket, using the same open portofilter:::, ) but just curious what number you were using..
Thanks
Hi Nicholas, thank you for asking. I don't have the Silenzio anymore, but I never had to go past 2 on the dial. Every grinder is different, the dial setting will be different from grinder to grinder, but channeling doesn't necessarily mean your setting is bad. Also keep in mind that the burrs need breaking in before you can get the most of them. How's your brew pressure?
@@Jaroslav. that’s a good question/
i believe it’s 9- I’m just starting out in the hobby and i got a good deal on bambino plus (now that I’ve researched more, probably should have stated with the gaggia….) switched out the portafilter to bottomless…. Not a VST basket but i believe at-least one of my shots shoud have pulled ok…. Going to get another couple of new bags of coffee… hopefully it was the coffee-
Also… when you said you “don’t go past 2” ??? Did you mean past as in lower then 2? Or higher the. 2? Sorry for the newb question ( I’m assuming you mean lower then 2 = 1, 0…… but maybe you meant nothing coarser then 2…. Thanks
That’s a good start to figure out what you like and what to upgrade to one day. Rancilio Silvia is a pretty decent machine to get hands on as well. I meant that I never had to go higher than 2 on the dial, highest setting was probably ~1,8. It’s also good to not focus on numbers on the dial too much and find the actual zero point (turning the dial as far as to the point when the burrs make a light chirping sound). If you don’t have any issues with dialing in for a basic ratio (lets say 1:2 in 25s) and channeling is the only issue, try and find out what your brew pressure is. Then look into improving your puck prep - one variable at a time. Hope that helps!
its not the grind setting, you need a wdt and you won't get channeling. I use a wdt plus his OCD leveler. I don't even tamp and I do not get any channeling. I am using the Notte and Bambino Plus as well for reference.
Beautiful as always. Why did you switch from the other Single Dosing Mod?
Thank you Jimmy! I don’t really intend on bashing someone’s creation, but the previous wasn’t good enough for me. Which would you prefer?
@@Jaroslav. from the looks the second, it just fits the style of the grinder better :) But to be honest I just ordered the other one as it was more readily available in Germany. What did you dislike about the other one?
I got the first one for exactly the same reason. The fit wasn’t tight enough, therefore the seal wasn’t that great. Some fines would fly out from the top of the throat as I pushed the bellows, making a mess and that just didn’t work as nicely as it potentionally could if it sealed better. The colour wasn’t as black as i’d like. I really like how the mod i’m using currently seals the throat almost perfectly. Not only from around the sides, but it seals from the top as well - the square design has it’s advantages. Silicon bellows are also superior, they create a really good seal and feel durable. I did of course provide some feedback on the previous mod, perhaps you’ll receive a revised version. The seller was really professional and responsive. Does that answer your question well Jimmy?
@@Jaroslav. yup, that helps a lot. Thanks, man!
Anytime!
Very, nice.
Hi Bob, thank you!
Hi 👋
Do you think the price difference between the silenzio and the niche zero is worth it.?
As far as I can see with the bellow for single dose works very well .
Thanks in advance 👌
Keep going 👍
Hi Miguel, thank you and thanks for asking! I think the price difference is worth it and I would recommend going with the Niche if you don’t mind the looks of it. It doesn’t need bellows, it has a better set of burrs and is most likely a more enjoyable user experience. The single dosing mod with bellows is a nice idea, but I really dislike having to use bellows and the workflow is still quite messy and very inconsistent - the Mignon series simply isn’t meant for single dosing. Honestly, it completely put me off the whole single dosing thing. If you’re going to be single dosing, I suggest you get a single dosing grinder that is designed for single dosing. The bellows is not a solution. I hope that helps!
Hey Jaroslav!
Do you see any major difference between the Motta and the OCD and I see you’re tamping also, found differences too?
I’ve never seen channeling in your videos
Hi Jose, thank you for asking! I noticed some channeling when using the OCD without tamping - that’s why i started tamping again. It’s nicer to use than the one from Motta, but that’s just my preference. Both work well, even though ONA did some research when shaping the base of the OCD. Does that answer your question well?
@@Jaroslav. yes, thank you Jaroslav.
Keep up the great work 🙌🏻
Thank you Jose!
I like your scale
Thanks!
sweet video thanks! which RS
pid controller is that? they always seem to have red numbers and yours are white (which i prefer!)
Hi Nathanael, thank you for asking! I got it from Auber. They let you choose white LED display for additional $10, which is really neat. Not even 10€. I saw they now also offer a black box instead of silver. You can find it here:
www.auberins.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=6&products_id=36
@@Jaroslav. that’s awesome, thank you very much!!
@@nat2world Anytime!
Would a hole in the bellows help with the air recovery and not pulling fines back in the burrs?
Hi, thanks for asking! There actually is a small hole in the bellows if that’s what your question is aimed at. I hope that helps!
@@Jaroslav. ah, that's exactly what I meant and that's brilliant then. Couldn't see it from the images. Thanks for letting me know.
Anytime!
Ok, what I haven't seen up until now is wetting the beans. Is that water? Why?
Hi, thank you for asking. That’s just filtered water, people also call it RDT. It helps with static and retention. I hope that helps!
Hi, Excellent video and the sound is amazing. Can you please share what model is the scale? Thanks in advance!
Hi Ermit. Thank you, and thanks for asking! I'm loving this scale, it's the Felicita Arc.
Where to buy the bellow ?
I got this one from Etsy 😊
Hi, have you done any calibration on the eureka? I use fresh dark roast from coffee shop but I'm nearing the point where the burrs starts making metal sound. I find ut a little hard to dial in properly. Hopefully you have some advise. I do have the same machune as you do exept the pid.
Hi Svehan, thanks for asking! I’ve aligned the burrs and found the 0 point (where burrs touch). What Mignon model do you have? What’s your dose and how’s your puck preparation?
@@Jaroslav. I have the Silenzio grinder. I have landed on 14g of coffee in rancilio double filter (bottomless). I notice that the burrs touch at 5 on the knob. With fresh coffee I am now between 0 and 5 (one number). There are about 0.2-0.5 numbers left to screw before the burrs touch. I guess if I use older coffee/different type of coffee I'm not able to grind fine enough?
@@Jaroslav. I forgot to say I grind the coffee straight in the basket, try as best as I can to distribute by shaking the basket and then use the Rancilio tamper.
Thanks! If you have the V6 Silvia, the double basket that comes with it can accomodate up to 17g of coffee. Is the problem you’re having related to a fast flow?
@@Jaroslav. usually fast flow yes. And I have the V6. Might be mye prep which is inconsistent. Thnx for the fast reply!
Great background music! Who’s the artist?
Amazing tracks by NK Music, you can listen and buy these on Beatstars. Hope that helps!
Hello :) Where did you buy the rubber piece on top of the grinder? Looking for it too
Hi Leonida, thanks for asking! You'll find the bellows together with the hopper on Etsy along with the other mod i've tried. Hope that helps!
@@Jaroslav. thank u a lot Jaroslav.
Anytime!
where can you buy this hopper? Do you have a link?
Hi Jens, thanks for asking! You will find it on Etsy, along with the previous mode i’ve tried. I hope that helps!
Any reason set PID to 93 instead of recommended 105?
Hi Boris, thanks for asking! The 105 setting is a default setting for a default offset. I’ve measured the exact offset between the sensor and the grouphead, then set the controler to display the temperature at the grouphead. More on that on my blog if you’re interested :
jaroslav.io/?p=112
@@Jaroslav. very interesting indeed . Thanks for the reply 👍
Anytime!
Hello,
is that PID modified add-on?
Hi, yes it is! Thanks for asking.
@@Jaroslav. Another question, do you think EUREKA MIGNON MANUALE would suffice for daily home use, mainly and only espresso where 4 dosage max? Comparing with Eureka Mignon Specialita where the price gap is significant
@@kennethkhoo107 Absolutely, as long as you’re able to resist the urge to upgrade after a year. Obviously, you’ll get better results with better burrsets and Eureka’s 50mm burrs can get boring after some time. I’d recommend to look for something 64mm, it will keep you happy for a longer time.
Beautiful workflow, and has me inspired. Its just the video I needed to see and has me thinking. Whats the grind retention like with the bellows compared to without? What's the clumbing and distribution like using the dosing cup and flipping the portafilter? Thanks!
Hi Ross, thank you! The exchange across the Mignon line is quiet low, anywhere between 1-1.5g. Some people refer to it as “stale”, which makes it sound far worse than you’d be able to notice. If you’re pulling shots from the same bag(s) of coffee for longer than a few days, the exchange with both bellows and without is negligible. However if you’re changing coffee or brew method often, you’ll definitely want to get the bellows and push it out with each grind adjustment. Very handy for dialling in. I never grind directly into the portafilter, I feel like the coffee is less clumpy, less messy and more evenly distributed when grinding into the cup. Thanks for the comment Ross, I hope that helps!
@@Jaroslav. I appreciate such a thoughtful response! Once dialed in I'll probably be sticking to the same coffee and brew method for couple weeks at a time, but I think I'll still go for the bellows for the sake of dialing in and just hoping to minimize retention as much as possible. I'm also convinced on the dosing cup! Love how clean it keeps the workflow. Thanks!
I agree! Try and see what kind of a workflow you like. Perhaps you'd like to go all out on a single dosing grinder as your next upgrade, or maybe you'd go back to using a hopper like I did. The cup is definitely worth the investment. Anytime!
@@Jaroslav. Oh yeah, I see now that before you moved on the from Silenzio you tried two different single-dose mods before settling back on the hopper? I'll keep that in mind :)
Does this mod help with popcorning? Any issues with that?
Hi Joel, there’s nothing to prevent popcorning in this mod. Popcorning was always an issue with the Silenzio and this mod. Thanks for asking!
Do you notice any issues with shot quality due to popcorning? Or are those few rebel beans possibly improperly grinded too insignificant? I ordered a Notte yesterday with single dosing in mind and learned about this mod to avoid retention. I have no desire to always be weighing after I grind. This will be my first setup as such. I have experience owning and operating a coffee shop, but there I used a doser on like a $3k grinder. No more coffee shop and I own a super automatic now for my home, but I miss the quality and art of using a real machine and portafilter.
Final note. I would think though if you are pushing down on the bellow while grinding it might help keep the beans down to minimize some popcorning. The wind pressure could act similar to weight pressure. Just a thought. I guess I’ll see. Thanks for the video and cheers. Happy grinding.
To be completely honest, I started disliking the whole single dosing workflow using the bellows. It blows out fines, it’s inconsistent and what I’d put in would often not come completely out. Smashing the bellows to make coffee became really frustrating.
But the good thing about Mignon grinders is that they don’t retain too much coffee in exchange, so you don’t really need bellows to single dose. The Silenzio I owned had around 2,5g exchange, so if you don’t mind purging 2-3g of coffee in the morning and then throwing in your dose, all the fresh coffee will come out on it’s own without making a mess.
Pressing the bellows won’t prevent popcorning, the pressure is way too low to prevent a shooting bean. It will popcorn unless you cover the throat with something. Popcorning leads to inconsistencies, it really is an issue with this mod. Eureka on the other hand released a new, small single dosing hopper that helps with popcorning and I think it would be nicer to use.
I’ve upgraded from the Silenzio some time ago, it’s a nice little grinder to figure out what kind of a workflow you’re into. I find it worked better if used as intended - as an on demand grinder.
Thanks for asking and good luck with your new setup!
Hello again. I went with the Notte/Manuale. Got a good deal at only $248 usd. After using stock I did find quite a bit retention that I was not loving. Doing SD there sounded like a bit of popcorning as well since the stock hopper only a dome over the throat far from the blade, as is with virtually every non SD grinder I’ve seen. So I did find on Etsy a SD hopper, bellow, AND anti-popcorn weight thingy that fits perfectly in the throat real close to the blade. It is 3D custom made for this grinder by an Etsy seller, FusedLine. It actually works really good and I am happy with the work flow so far. Throw the measured beans in, when beans grind down to the throat I place the weight thingy in, and when grinding is done, 3-4 presses on the bellow and I find no retention. Popcorning also sounds much less than stock. Maybe a bean or two that gets hung up in the blade that eventually gets grinded.
I did look into to the Eureka SD hopper you mentioned (45g hopper) but I could not find anyone selling it. I did find some websites, but everything was out of stock. It also didn’t look much different in design in regards to the popcorning. It is, however, round and has available it’s own bellow. But this weight thingy from Etsy is really cool. It fits into the throat and gets really close to the blade. It also has a few gaps around the edge so it can stay in while bellowing.
Also one other note. I learned it is best when using the bellow you don’t use it while grinding…only when grinding is complete. And you’ll see a bunch of ground coffee come out that would normally be left in the chute and burrs.
Hello! I'm a new subscriber to your channel. Great work! I just wanted to ask where you got the single dosing hopper & bellow? :D
Hi David, welcome and thank you! You’ll find it on Etsy along with the other single dosing mod i’ve tried. I hope that helps!
@@Jaroslav. Great! That's where I first saw those hoppers. Just wanted to check if you got the same one. Thanks! Trying to get more serious with the home espresso world haha I was actually planning to get the same setup as you then I saw your vid :D
Anytime! It’s nice to try single dosing with the mod and worth finding out what you personally like. Thanks for watching!
Silly humans
Exactly my thought when I read this comment
@@Jaroslav. 😀
link to mod?
Hi, thanks for asking! You will find it on Etsy, along with the previous mode i’ve tried. I hope that helps!
90s porn music haha
Hahaha 😂
Вы из России ?
Hi Sergey, thanks for asking. I’m from Slovak Republic.
@@Jaroslav. по русски понимаете ? Можно ваш Инстаграмме
My fiancée can read cyrilic for me so that i understand, but i don’t speak russian. I’m not using Instagram, sorry!
@@Jaroslav. Where did you get the syngdose device
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