And I'll also leave this here: peeps, it took me less than 30 seconds to find details of Marlene's education, when she graduated, who she studied under, what she teaches and some reviews from students. :-P And nope, I don't know her in the slightest. I just thought it would be interesting to see if I could find evidence of her being a teacher, because doubts were raised. I think it's good to doubt and question things. But just to say something isn't true without even checking? That sort of thing can lead to all sorts of problems.
This never gets old. Juuka grooving on his TAMA double-base set, Emppu driving the rhythm in his signature ESP EV-1, Marco giving us epic base lines in his Warwick Buzzard, Tuomas sharing his genius on his KORGs and Floor leading the crowd like a modern-day 6-foot 1-inch Valkyrie and seducing like a siren. They are all at the top of the talent tree. Each one alone could lead a band into greatness let alone all five of them. One of the best live performances of all time. Not only musically but staging and production is unmatched.
It's the 13th song of a 15 song set. She's already been singing for over 1 1/2 hours...and this song doesn't even phase her! Now that's training, endurance and stamina! She's our Dutch Valkyrie, Floor Jansen, and you've just experienced a Floorgasm!
Welcome back to Nightwish, as you promised. Last time you were a little bit scared, but fortunately the camraderie show you the path. Nightwish is seasoned and very versatile band with great musicianship all the way. If you're genuinely interested, there are dozens of Nightwish songs. I also highly recommend videos from dutch tv-show Beste Zangers 2019. There Floor Jansen show us his great versatility by singing songs of different music styles. Sorry my rusty english and greetings from snowy and icy northern Finland!
@@j.nybergh7003 You're trying to tell me that a rock musician/music teacher didn't tingle and lose herself to that note? Because she didn't, and that's a shame. She clearly hears her own voice in her head too loud to fully appreciate what she's watching here.
Thanks for summoning the NIghtwish army of passionate fans from all over the multiverse to storm your YT channel with many more song requests from this unique band & stellar vocalists - yes, their bassist Marco/Marko Hietala is also an amazing vocalist, not to mention the one and only Floor Jansen. P.S. Floor had already been singing over an hour since this song was third to last in this Wacken Open Air 2013 show with over 80K people in the audience.
The man on the keyboards, Tuomas, Is a founding member of the band and writes all their songs. Nightwish was formed in 1996 and Floor Jansen (the singer) has been singing with bands since she was 17 and she is 38 now. She became their official singer in 2013.
hauling live orchestra with them everywhere they perform would be logistic nightmare, all orchestral tracks are pre-recorded by London philharmonic orchestra.
Epica and Within Temptation have both done it twice so it is do-able. I think i read somewhere that Tuomas wanted to do one but only in the Royal Albert hall. :-)
watch her with Epica Epica - Sancta Terra (feat Floor Jansen) Live Retrospect show 2.409.792 weergaven •23 apr. 2015 must be hideously expensive as Alan Foster said but they did it and with more then 2 choirs also with an orchestra and the band Epica ...or watch the making of the greatest show on earth by Nightwish then you will see how much the band put in a song ...
@@ronaldboers8061 Taht's a magic place. But I doubt that Epica and Within Temptation went on tour with the orchestra. The only one I know who does it is Andre Rieu, maar dat is andere cake.
Don't fret about some of the comments lass, as you can see from the video, Nightwish fans are super passionate. But we can tell you were impressed. ^.-.^
A musican myself, I can clearly see that the symphonic parts doesn’t come from the keyboards, but from a pre-recorded clicktrack that the drummer controls. He can’t mess up one beat during the entire performance.
Floor is a musical chemeloion,her voice is an absolute power house . She has so much control .. She transitions with ease ...Floor is a absolute goddess
I Came here while Corona hopping through the internet and I must say your caution about the “audio issue in this video, which I apologize for! “is well earned. Since I found no issue with the actual audio I noticed a bit of a condescending tone in you analyses so I checked out your performances and I found the audio issue YOUR COMMENTS. So I go back to the Lesser Evil and continue listening to Floor 😉
it's 6/8 with a missing (syncopated) 1/8 at every 3rd bar :o) I am extremely impressed, you are one of the few reactors who actually counted the rhytm! And you're absolute right, it would be absolute nice with a real orchestra on the other hand, it would be unpayable on a tour like this. Right now the classical stuff (strings, choirs and brasses) are made mostly by the Korg Kronos (Keyboard) which also provides a backing track and the click for the other musicians.
Hi Marlene, just a heads up. Miss Floor Jansen, The Valkyrie Goddess of the Nightwish Army. among other titles, she has classical training, she is an academic of the Rock and she is a vocal coach too. She is the 3rd lead singer of the band and worshiped by the Nightwish Army.
this was song 12 out of 14 in the set list from this show. saw a compilation tribute video that said the first time she performed this on this tour was in Austin, TX. Don't know how accurate that was. Anyone know? i'm dying to ask her, what was the band's reaction to her improv idea for the ending, and what was their reaction the first time she hit that note?
Im pretty sure that there is a collection of Emppu's face from 1st time to many other shows to come with ending. Emppu showd true reaction and Id bet he, like all of us, will never get used to this sustained high note at the end. "Check Mate, Queen to D6"
I have personally never seen it but there seems to be a clip that when Floor added the closing part to the song the first time Tuomas looked at her a bit confused like "did she mess up?". but when she ended on that epic note there appeared a broad smile on his face like "This is why you want Floor in your band". It has been added as the ending ever since.
ruclips.net/video/vhExkmWKMEU/видео.html Check out their documentary on here, "Please Learn the Setlist in 48 Hours." It goes through the tour where Olzon was sick, they used Elize and Alyssa in Denver, and asked Floor to join them on short notice. It's an interesting behind-the-scenes look. I'm not sure the first time she performed "Ghost Love Score", but her first show with Nightwish was in Seattle.
it was the 13th song of the set list 01. Dark Chest of Wonders 02. Wish I Had an Angel 03. She Is My Sin 04. Ghost River 05. Ever Dream 06. Storytime 07. I Want My Tears Back (with Troy Donockley) 08. Nemo (with Troy Donockley) 09. Last of the Wilds (with Troy Donockley) 10. Bless the Child 11. Romanticide 12. Amaranth 13. Ghost Love Score 14. Song of Myself 15. Last Ride of the Day
Nightwish Live at Wacken Open Air 2013 🎶🎶🎶 Epic concert! 🎶🎶🎶 Next to react: Storytime, Ever Dream, Romanticide, Ghost River, Song of Myself, Dark Chest of Wonders ... Last Ride of the Day Setlist: 1. Dark Chest of Wonders, 2. Wish I Had an Angel, 3. She is My Sin, 4. Ghost River, 5. Ever Dream, 6. Storytime, 7. I Want My Tears Back, 8. Nemo, 9. Last of the Wilds, 10. Bless the Child, 11. Romanticide, 12. Amaranth, 13. Ghost Love Score, 14. Song of Myself, 15. Last Ride of the Day Audience in this concert was 82 000.
OK, now that I have seen the infamous quote "she did really well there", I can see that you were actually very impressed based on your facial expression. I think that mentally you moved on really quickly to your technical comments, so that's why you were saying how she didn't go flat and she held the note really well and whatever. So you were just judging based on the criteria and saying that she did really well based on that. I don't take it to mean that you weren't super impressed.
Guys, please get a grip on yourself with the negative comments and downvotes. Yes, we are all ardent Floor admirers, but she needs to grow on you a little bit. Yes she can belt it out at the top of her lungs and very powerful at that, but quite many others can do that too, it is not really what makes her stand out. What makes Floor so special is that she is among the best in several categories, she is very complete as a singer. She's certainly among the best in the world with her vocal control, has very good range (nearly 4 octaves), is extremely versatile in her style, has excellent stage presence and she emotionally owns all the songs she sings. But some of these qualities are hard to see after just one or two songs, that's why I said she needs to grow on you a little. I mean look at Voice Love Co as an example So please be nice to the people who take their time to give us their opinion, we want more Nightwish and Floor reactions, not less and there are really few people who don't dig the band after listening to their third song or so :-) Ok, now I have that off my chest, I quite liked your reaction really. Giving up the initial counting after a few tries with "Wow, that's a really cool rhythm" was quite funny, there are not so many that even notice that it breaks with conventional schemes. And IIRC you are the first (or maybe second) to remark on getting back to that rhythm when Floor adds her staccato opera voice to it. If I may recommend some ways to go from here: Floors performance of "Shallow" in the dutch Beste Zangers show is noteworthy as a showcase of her vocal control in the soft range. To make Marko grow on you a little I recommend "While your lips are still red" from Wembley. And I think you haven't been introduced to Troy Donockley yet, so why not react to "I want my tears back" from Wacken 2013 to see a bit of Nightwishs more folky side. Thank you!
This! Despite what the common reaction shows, having a high voice and being able to hit high notes doesn't necessarily equal massive skill. Floor is an absolutely amazing singer due to the fact she can sing in any style she wants with ease. Just got to keep watching to experience more of what she can do.
I agree, I don't get all the negative comments either. She appreciated the song's beat, called it "great", said that Floor's voice put her (Marlene) in a trance and called the whole band "great". She felt that Floor did "really well" at the end and that the song was "great". Also, she paid attention to the time signatures, which isn't what most reactors do. All in all, she complimented both Floor and the rest of the band a lot. That being said, I wouldn't have minded a more in-depth analysis, but I think that some people's comments are simply uncalled for. I hope that this won't drive you away from Nightwish, Marlene!
Great reaction! On point. Floor is amazing, nad so is the band. Her 13th song in the set. You wouldn't know it. I'm late to finding this reaction, but if you havent after all this time, Everdream and Storytime from the same show are amazing, and possibly their best.
Do greatest show on earth probably their best then poet and the pendulum the story of their first singer leaving. Both with Floor singing them. Both are long but journey's to be sure. The Islander is a good one as well Marco does the singing
As some of your reactors already said ....... see (or hear) the Dutch tv-show "Beste Zangers" (Best Singers) where Floor Jansen sings a duet with Henk Poort, a Dutch opara singer (Phantom of the Opera) and a duet with Tim Akkerman (Shallow) and also Emma Heesters with a song from Floor's earlier band After Forever (song: Strong). Don't wanna push you but ........ MUST SEE/HEAR !! (You won't regret it) !!
Nice reaction! This was the 13th of their 15 song set. You also might be interested knowing that there were 82,000+ in the audience, during their performance. Having an actually orchestra would be very expensive.
Not to mention that it was a summer festival with a given stage setup and there would have been simply no room for it. You can do live orchestra once in a while to celebrate special events or anniversaries, like Epica did in their live Retrospective, but you can't lug around a symphonic orchestra plus choir with you on an 18 month world tour with hundreds of performances.
After this, I'd suggest Devil and the Deep Dark Ocean, Buenos Aires, 2018; Poet and the Pendulum, Wembley, 2016*; Dark Chest of Wonders, Wacken 2013; and Ever Dream, Wacken, 2013. Just to give you a range of sound from Floor (excluding growls). *Note: Poet and the Pendulum has copyright issues, due to someone who remixed the song, in spite of Nightwish holding the original copyright. Just make sure you pause it between each part, and comment about it. Lastly, research the background of the song, as Tuomas, the keyboardist, who writes 95% of the music for Nightwish, wrote Poet and the Pendulum from a place of dark depression, anger, rage, and hope -- all because of having to fire Nightwish's first vocalist, Tarja Tarunen.
Being Symphonic Metal allows them to take their music in several different directions. They have the huge epis multipart masterpiece production songs like this or "the poet and the pendulum" or "The greatest show on earth". They also have several of the more classic heavy thrash metal sound in songs like "Romanticide" or "Song of Myself" or Dark Chest of Wonders".. they even have a very celtic rock sound on songs like "E'lan" and "the Walden".. Your choice, take your pick or like us, love it all..
''SHE DID PRETTY WELL''😊.......it must be from the counting: 1,2,3,4; 1,2,3,4.....that's what happens when you can't see the forest for the trees. Girl, let me educate you: the only sounds Floor may do "pretty well" are either when she gets hiccups or when she blows her nose. The rest ? Exquisite.
You're one of the first reactors to break down the measure at the beginning, props for doing that! :) Really loved your analysis and what you had to say about Nightwish Don't pay attention to the dislikes, unfortunately there's a portion of the fans that are more like "Floor fans" and they think that the only thing you should pay attention to is Floor - the singer, and even though she is great I'm glad you payed more attention to the band itself cause the band really is amazing! They are active from 1996 and they've had 3 singers up until now, this one being their current singer - Floor Jansen. I'd love you to check out one of their signature covers Phantom of the Opera live from End of and Era concert with their first singer - Tarja, I think you'll like that one :)
Yeah, I haven't seen many folks do a breakdown of the time signatures. However, the intro is just a pattern of drag-triplets (with the second note rested) over standard 4/4 time. As she said, it creates a 3 against 4 pull. It sounds like it resolves down to a cut-time signature for that allows for two sets of triplets between each beet. It's very cool. Though I think Toto did the 3 over 4 patter for the intro to Rosanna. Either way, it sets up a very good position of tension leading the listener to yearn for resolution which is where the vocal story begins. Excellent artistry.
@@sangorilla1 The rhythm you're speaking about is actually in the 2nd part of the intro where it indeed is 4/4, 4/4, 3/4 and 4/4. But she got the very beginning exactly right - 6-6-5-6 of fast-paced quarters, or, more precisely, 12/8, 12/8, 10/8, 12/8 with the three beats exactly 3/8 apart. That's the reason why it might sound as a standard 4/4 (because there are four 3/8s in a 12/8, right?) but it's actually not the case in the very beginning, just listen carefully to the drumming. Anyway, props to both Marlene and you for breaking it down and for explaining - my terminology is somewhat narrow to be able to correctly explain it. ;) Edit: quite possibly, it is not 12/8 and 10/8 but more like 12/16 and 10/16 respectively, depending on the base tempo chosen. I've obviously never seen the score on paper so I'm just guessing whether they are 8ths or 16ths, but otherwise I stand by what I wrote.
@@Beus38 Here is the rhythm breakdown of the opening sequence: (3-3) (3-3) (3-3) (2-2-2) (3-3) (4) (3-3) (2-2-2) then repeated three more times before transitioning to 4/4. The eight measure phrase consists of three measures with two sets of triplets, then one measure with three pairs, two more triplets, one set of 4, two triplets, three pairs. It took me about a year to get it, but that sixth measure with four beats is the key to the whole thing. Drove me nuts. As a former drummer, I get OCD about dropped beats and added beats.
@@tcish4708 Yeah, it took me a while to understand your notation and the explanation below but I did and you've got it correctly - it's the same thing that I was saying, just somewhat more expertly put ;) Although, the second measure is a bit ambiguous as there is pretty much nothing happening in it, no beat, no tone (except for the first and only one at its beginning), so it can as well be (2-2-2) or anything else summing up to 6. And it's exactly as you said - the key here is the 6th measure with 4 beats instead of 6 - this is where the irregularity happens. That's what I meant with those 10/8 in the third position, when you break them down to 6/8 + 4/8. Anyway, thanks for the reply, pleasure to talk with a musician, especially when he proves me right ;) My musical education is somewhat washed-out after all those years of being barely put to use, but my ears never fail me :)
Since you mentioned it, I also checked out your other NW reaction. There you mentioned you didn't like Marko's vocals. If you want to give him another shot on vocals, you should try "While your lips are still red": ruclips.net/video/5V7PKv493Ic/видео.html
For the full on stage orchestra yo should take a look at Epica - Sancte Terra (with Floor Jansen as a guest performer) Epica was founded by Mark Jansen (not related) the guitar player of Floor's first band After Forever. And for a while Floor was the vocal coach of the singer of Epica Simone Simons.
Not a lot of people notices the compound meters, even fewer does the count. I like that. If you like that sort of stuff, maybe you could react to and break down "When The Water Breaks" by Liquid Tension Experiment? It's a near 18 minute long and very progressive instrumental only track that takes compound meters to new levels. It has been covered by "youtube musicians", so understanding it is not incomprehensible: ruclips.net/video/aSU0xBGfkfg/видео.html Regarding Floor, when she agreed to step in, she had 48 hours to learn the complete set list, some of the hours spent on a plane, meaning she was probably fighting jet lag as well during her first show. This track is usually featured towards the end, but according to herself it's one of her favorite ones to sing. Completely different style of music, but you may also want to check out her Phantom Of The Opera version, with Henk Poort (actual Dutch phantom): ruclips.net/video/plCScjvDOJM/видео.html She's also featured in Ayreon projects, along with an impressive list of vocalists and artists. These are progressive rock operas in all sorts of styles, soundscapes, and complexities, but the progressiveness never goes overboard. Valley Of The Queens is a nice but short one, with three layered singers exploring harmonies with three distinct vocal qualities: ruclips.net/video/TbebO5BZi-I/видео.html&ab_channel=ArjenAnthonyLucassen On or off cam? Check youtube if they are popular to react to and decide for yourself.
I love Nightwish as a band and Floor as a singer but there are people on this comment thread that should dial down their cult-like behavior a step or two. This RUclipsr is just giving her reaction which includes her looking at this from her perspective as a music teacher. The militant Nightwish and Floor Jansen fan responses that demand a specific type reply are pretty sad. How dare people not react to YOUR expectation. It is confirmation bias masturbation of the most annoying order.
@@patgrt83 Ooooh so edgy. Careful you don't cut yourself there, kiddo. I'm not a boomer and I bet forkless isn't either. Still, what they said is true. Anyone with a set of ears that function even slightly can hear how talented Floor is. We don't all have to go around OOOOHing and AHHHHing. Some of us are a little more reserved and just go "Yup. That was good". This reactor is a musician, not a singer. She focused on the band more than any other reaction I've seen, and THEY deserve to be recognized, too. They're all well above par musicians that can hold their own around someone on Floor's level, and I really enjoyed listening to someone paying to attention to something other than the Floorgasm.
You have to check out a Japanese band named "Band maid". Highly skilled musicians and great music. If you look away from the lyrics since they sing in their native language, they're awesome. Dice(mv), Play(live), Blooming(mv), Moratorium(live) are great. Considered Nightwish: most of their symphonic parts are pre-recorded by orchestra and choir. I know they've used London Philharmonic. Live? Not sure... but I guess it's to keep costs down? Want to see metal with full orchestra? Check out Dimmu borgir - Gateways (forces of the northern night, live Oslo) just epic! Btw.. you're very cute😉
Floor Jansen is an Angel sent from Heaven to help the band after the lost of the last singer. Only Angels can learn a concert worth of lyrics in only 48 hours.
Hi dear, your voice sounds like Cotton Candy, to help you understand the Nightwish symphonic system: The drummer has a clicker in his ear, he is the guy with the cues. The choir and the symphonic sounds come from pre-recorded tracks by the London Philarmonic Orchestra. Add this to extremely talented musicians and the result is what you see and listen to.
You sgould react to her husbands band called Sabaton. They play songs about War and historic peaple. Their new video seven pillars of wisdome or Ghost division from Wacken are two great song but they have so many and alot of their videos great
At least you didn't refer to Floor as "the chick" and laugh put of boredom (which she actually said) during the song, like I watched one reactor do. THAT is rude and disrespectful, not simply reacting to Floor hitting that last "Floorgasmic" note without the level of enthusiasm some fans expect. As other commenters have said, Floor's greatness lies not just in her power and 4-octave vocal range, but in her ability to do any style of music with passion and virtuoso vocal skill. She belts out great rock vocals in "Romanticide," growls convincingly in "Yours is an Empty Hope," and breaks your heart with tender vibrato and emotion in "Shallow" and "Winner" from Beste Zangers (a Dutch TV show). No one can truly appreciate Floor after just one song, and you shouldn't be expected to either.
Nice video, nice reaction. Small tip for the future, try to balance the volume between you and the video a little more. most of the time it was quite hard to understand what you were saying. Other than that it was good, it was honest... i liked it.
another good female lead: completely different but also famous for her voice: Anegela Gusow, Arch Enemy ruclips.net/video/n9AcG0glVu4/видео.html and another awesome female singer. bandname is "In this Moment" title: Whore ruclips.net/video/GurkREc-q4I/видео.html
Guys, if she says "pretty well", that's a compliment. Not everyone is going to fall all over themselves. What more do you want? Seriously. We all react however we react, right?
@@jimmyboy131 "Decent" ha!! That's rich coming from so called "vocal coaches" on youtube! The day I see any of these technique analyzing pricks have a crowd of over 82,000 people eating out the palm of there hands and sound this good 13 songs in, then I would think they have something of value to say. Until then........
@@jimmyboy131 I think because so many very experienced voice teachers/coaches,etc have expressed so eloquently just how very talented and how rare Floor's abilities are that to see someone who claims to have a level of knowledge about vocal capabilities would be so nonchalant about Floor's talent can be a little off putting. my opinion
What you often see is that the young vocalcoaches (like our musicteacher here) think they can match the voice of Floor thinking so read. They don't realize that Floor's voice is unique and far too high for the vocalcoaches themselves.The lady said...her voice is pretty well...................of course her voice is much better than the voice of Floor :)
Maybe she should have watched a version that wasn't live, because this being the 13th song in a 15 song set, this isn't the best version of this song. I love this band, but some performances, including this one, just ain't got what I know this band is capable of. You want an honest reaction, or you want someone to fluff your feathers for no reason and lie to you?
It was the 13th song at the setlist :). And you can’t say their songs are short either...
All Nightwish's songs are shorter than I'd like.
I only watch all the reaction videos as an excuse to hear the song over and over again
Welcome to the club dude, you're right.
Yep.... that's what I am doing too :)
Guilty
well if you are going to just say it....
Lol I thought I was the only one!
Thank you for continuing the Nightwish journey! I'm sure you'll never regret it! Welcome to the beautiful world of symphonic metal!
And I'll also leave this here: peeps, it took me less than 30 seconds to find details of Marlene's education, when she graduated, who she studied under, what she teaches and some reviews from students. :-P
And nope, I don't know her in the slightest. I just thought it would be interesting to see if I could find evidence of her being a teacher, because doubts were raised.
I think it's good to doubt and question things. But just to say something isn't true without even checking? That sort of thing can lead to all sorts of problems.
This never gets old. Juuka grooving on his TAMA double-base set, Emppu driving the rhythm in his signature ESP EV-1, Marco giving us epic base lines in his Warwick Buzzard, Tuomas sharing his genius on his KORGs and Floor leading the crowd like a modern-day 6-foot 1-inch Valkyrie and seducing like a siren. They are all at the top of the talent tree. Each one alone could lead a band into greatness let alone all five of them. One of the best live performances of all time. Not only musically but staging and production is unmatched.
It's the 13th song of a 15 song set. She's already been singing for over 1 1/2 hours...and this song doesn't even phase her! Now that's training, endurance and stamina!
She's our Dutch Valkyrie, Floor Jansen, and you've just experienced a Floorgasm!
Welcome back to Nightwish, as you promised. Last time you were a little bit scared, but fortunately the camraderie show you the path. Nightwish is seasoned and very versatile band with great musicianship all the way. If you're genuinely interested, there are dozens of Nightwish songs. I also highly recommend videos from dutch tv-show Beste Zangers 2019. There Floor Jansen show us his great versatility by singing songs of different music styles. Sorry my rusty english and greetings from snowy and icy northern Finland!
"She did pretty well there" probably the understatement of the century! 😂
Confused Floorgasm HAHAHA
Well the century is pretty young yet but it should at least be in the top 5 by the end of it. :-)
Well, if you don't listen the tone in her voice then you might take that comment in a negative way. Clearly she was impressed though.
@@j.nybergh7003 she was clearly underwhelmed, how can you think she was impressed??
@@j.nybergh7003 You're trying to tell me that a rock musician/music teacher didn't tingle and lose herself to that note? Because she didn't, and that's a shame. She clearly hears her own voice in her head too loud to fully appreciate what she's watching here.
check more from floor jansen ,.. she is a magical vocalist
It makes me so happy when people figure out the meter changes. Thank you!!
Thanks for summoning the NIghtwish army of passionate fans from all over the multiverse to storm your YT channel with many more song requests from this unique band & stellar vocalists - yes, their bassist Marco/Marko Hietala is also an amazing vocalist, not to mention the one and only Floor Jansen. P.S. Floor had already been singing over an hour since this song was third to last in this Wacken Open Air 2013 show with over 80K people in the audience.
Prepare for the Nightwish army and many new subscribers.
So true..and really true 🦉💜🤘
All I can say is that Floor's "pretty well" beats everyone else's best!
You nailed it!
Not really there's a 16 year old girl in Russia
I said “really well” not “pretty well”
@@MarleneMendozaMusic So? You're missing the point still.
@@MarleneMendozaMusic Not much emotion or reaction from you. Won't be subscribing.
The man on the keyboards, Tuomas, Is a founding member of the band and writes all their songs. Nightwish was formed in 1996 and Floor Jansen (the singer) has been singing with bands since she was 17 and she is 38 now. She became their official singer in 2013.
They have a backing track made by a live orchestra. Usually London Symphonic Orchestra.
hauling live orchestra with them everywhere they perform would be logistic nightmare, all orchestral tracks are pre-recorded by London philharmonic orchestra.
Not to mention hideously expensive.
And 2 choirs.
Epica and Within Temptation have both done it twice so it is do-able. I think i read somewhere that Tuomas wanted to do one but only in the Royal Albert hall. :-)
watch her with Epica Epica - Sancta Terra (feat Floor Jansen) Live Retrospect show
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must be hideously expensive as Alan Foster said but they did it and with more then 2 choirs also with an orchestra and the band Epica ...or watch the making of the greatest show on earth by Nightwish then you will see how much the band put in a song ...
@@ronaldboers8061 Taht's a magic place.
But I doubt that Epica and Within Temptation went on tour with the orchestra.
The only one I know who does it is Andre Rieu, maar dat is andere cake.
this was a 1 hour 38 min concert and this song came about 1 hour and 15 min into the concert
Don't fret about some of the comments lass, as you can see from the video, Nightwish fans are super passionate.
But we can tell you were impressed. ^.-.^
Thanks for the reaction video .. I hope there will be more if you liked it.
nice greetings from Germany
I`m not sure if anyone has let you know, that this song has been recorded by them with London Symphonic Orchestra
A musican myself, I can clearly see that the symphonic parts doesn’t come from the keyboards, but from a pre-recorded clicktrack that the drummer controls. He can’t mess up one beat during the entire performance.
Floor is a musical chemeloion,her voice is an absolute power house . She has so much control .. She transitions with ease ...Floor is a absolute goddess
I just checked out your music. I did not expect that. Really really good. Plug it more in your videos. Also make more music.
It'll be out soon!
Nightwish at wacken 2013 is tied for my favorite concert of all time, along with Rainbow 1977 live in Munich.
I Came here while Corona hopping through the internet and I must say your caution about the “audio issue in this video, which I apologize for! “is well earned.
Since I found no issue with the actual audio I noticed a bit of a condescending tone in you analyses so I checked out your performances and I found the audio issue YOUR COMMENTS.
So I go back to the Lesser Evil and continue listening to Floor 😉
it's 6/8 with a missing (syncopated) 1/8 at every 3rd bar :o)
I am extremely impressed, you are one of the few reactors who actually counted the rhytm!
And you're absolute right, it would be absolute nice with a real orchestra on the other hand, it would be unpayable on a tour like this.
Right now the classical stuff (strings, choirs and brasses) are made mostly by the Korg Kronos (Keyboard) which also provides a backing track and the click for the other musicians.
Hi Marlene, just a heads up. Miss Floor Jansen, The Valkyrie Goddess of the Nightwish Army.
among other titles, she has classical training, she is an academic of the Rock and she is a vocal coach too. She is the 3rd lead singer of the band and worshiped by the Nightwish Army.
this was song 12 out of 14 in the set list from this show. saw a compilation tribute video that said the first time she performed this on this tour was in Austin, TX. Don't know how accurate that was. Anyone know? i'm dying to ask her, what was the band's reaction to her improv idea for the ending, and what was their reaction the first time she hit that note?
Im pretty sure that there is a collection of Emppu's face from 1st time to many other shows to come with ending. Emppu showd true reaction and Id bet he, like all of us, will never get used to this sustained high note at the end. "Check Mate, Queen to D6"
I have personally never seen it but there seems to be a clip that when Floor added the closing part to the song the first time Tuomas looked at her a bit confused like "did she mess up?". but when she ended on that epic note there appeared a broad smile on his face like "This is why you want Floor in your band". It has been added as the ending ever since.
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Check out their documentary on here, "Please Learn the Setlist in 48 Hours." It goes through the tour where Olzon was sick, they used Elize and Alyssa in Denver, and asked Floor to join them on short notice. It's an interesting behind-the-scenes look. I'm not sure the first time she performed "Ghost Love Score", but her first show with Nightwish was in Seattle.
Great reaction I'm very happy you loved it!
The background orchestral track features the London Philharmonic Orchestra. I enjoyed trying to follow the beginning rhythm with you :)
Just what I felt: you want to dance to the rhythm, have to cry 'cause of Floor's headvoice and you rocket to the sky to her high belts!
it was the 13th song of the set list
01. Dark Chest of Wonders
02. Wish I Had an Angel
03. She Is My Sin
04. Ghost River
05. Ever Dream
06. Storytime
07. I Want My Tears Back (with Troy Donockley)
08. Nemo (with Troy Donockley)
09. Last of the Wilds (with Troy Donockley)
10. Bless the Child
11. Romanticide
12. Amaranth
13. Ghost Love Score
14. Song of Myself
15. Last Ride of the Day
Nightwish Live at Wacken Open Air 2013 🎶🎶🎶 Epic concert! 🎶🎶🎶 Next to react: Storytime, Ever Dream, Romanticide, Ghost River, Song of Myself, Dark Chest of Wonders ... Last Ride of the Day
Setlist: 1. Dark Chest of Wonders, 2. Wish I Had an Angel, 3. She is My Sin, 4. Ghost River, 5. Ever Dream, 6. Storytime, 7. I Want My Tears Back, 8. Nemo, 9. Last of the Wilds,
10. Bless the Child, 11. Romanticide, 12. Amaranth, 13. Ghost Love Score, 14. Song of Myself, 15. Last Ride of the Day
Audience in this concert was 82 000.
The Nightwish Army is approaching 🐱👤👀😎👍
i think the words you where looking for when it came to the Guitar SOLO was he was not Shredding the Guitar he was making the Guitar SING!
Yes! Exactly!
OK, now that I have seen the infamous quote "she did really well there", I can see that you were actually very impressed based on your facial expression. I think that mentally you moved on really quickly to your technical comments, so that's why you were saying how she didn't go flat and she held the note really well and whatever. So you were just judging based on the criteria and saying that she did really well based on that. I don't take it to mean that you weren't super impressed.
Guys, please get a grip on yourself with the negative comments and downvotes. Yes, we are all ardent Floor admirers, but she needs to grow on you a little bit. Yes she can belt it out at the top of her lungs and very powerful at that, but quite many others can do that too, it is not really what makes her stand out.
What makes Floor so special is that she is among the best in several categories, she is very complete as a singer. She's certainly among the best in the world with her vocal control, has very good range (nearly 4 octaves), is extremely versatile in her style, has excellent stage presence and she emotionally owns all the songs she sings. But some of these qualities are hard to see after just one or two songs, that's why I said she needs to grow on you a little. I mean look at Voice Love Co as an example
So please be nice to the people who take their time to give us their opinion, we want more Nightwish and Floor reactions, not less and there are really few people who don't dig the band after listening to their third song or so :-)
Ok, now I have that off my chest, I quite liked your reaction really. Giving up the initial counting after a few tries with "Wow, that's a really cool rhythm" was quite funny, there are not so many that even notice that it breaks with conventional schemes. And IIRC you are the first (or maybe second) to remark on getting back to that rhythm when Floor adds her staccato opera voice to it.
If I may recommend some ways to go from here: Floors performance of "Shallow" in the dutch Beste Zangers show is noteworthy as a showcase of her vocal control in the soft range. To make Marko grow on you a little I recommend "While your lips are still red" from Wembley. And I think you haven't been introduced to Troy Donockley yet, so why not react to "I want my tears back" from Wacken 2013 to see a bit of Nightwishs more folky side.
Thank you!
Thank you for your comment! Very well stated. I will check out your recommendations as soon as I can! :)
This! Despite what the common reaction shows, having a high voice and being able to hit high notes doesn't necessarily equal massive skill. Floor is an absolutely amazing singer due to the fact she can sing in any style she wants with ease. Just got to keep watching to experience more of what she can do.
I agree, I don't get all the negative comments either. She appreciated the song's beat, called it "great", said that Floor's voice put her (Marlene) in a trance and called the whole band "great". She felt that Floor did "really well" at the end and that the song was "great". Also, she paid attention to the time signatures, which isn't what most reactors do. All in all, she complimented both Floor and the rest of the band a lot.
That being said, I wouldn't have minded a more in-depth analysis, but I think that some people's comments are simply uncalled for.
I hope that this won't drive you away from Nightwish, Marlene!
@Calanor thank you, I appreciate your comment 💕
She will blow your mind
I see Nightwish, I click, I watch and I like 👍🤘
Great reaction! On point. Floor is amazing, nad so is the band. Her 13th song in the set. You wouldn't know it. I'm late to finding this reaction, but if you havent after all this time, Everdream and Storytime from the same show are amazing, and possibly their best.
Do greatest show on earth probably their best then poet and the pendulum the story of their first singer leaving. Both with Floor singing them. Both are long but journey's to be sure. The Islander is a good one as well Marco does the singing
As some of your reactors already said ....... see (or hear) the Dutch tv-show "Beste Zangers" (Best Singers) where Floor Jansen sings a duet with Henk Poort, a Dutch opara singer (Phantom of the Opera) and a duet with Tim Akkerman (Shallow) and also Emma Heesters with a song from Floor's earlier band After Forever (song: Strong).
Don't wanna push you but ........ MUST SEE/HEAR !! (You won't regret it) !!
Yes, the time signature in the beginning is very interesting.
Nice reaction! This was the 13th of their 15 song set. You also might be interested knowing that there were 82,000+ in the audience, during their performance. Having an actually orchestra would be very expensive.
Not to mention that it was a summer festival with a given stage setup and there would have been simply no room for it. You can do live orchestra once in a while to celebrate special events or anniversaries, like Epica did in their live Retrospective, but you can't lug around a symphonic orchestra plus choir with you on an 18 month world tour with hundreds of performances.
@@deeteenw Well Dimmu Borgir did wacken with Orchestra and Choir back in 2012..so there is enough room for that.
After this, I'd suggest Devil and the Deep Dark Ocean, Buenos Aires, 2018; Poet and the Pendulum, Wembley, 2016*; Dark Chest of Wonders, Wacken 2013; and Ever Dream, Wacken, 2013.
Just to give you a range of sound from Floor (excluding growls).
*Note: Poet and the Pendulum has copyright issues, due to someone who remixed the song, in spite of Nightwish holding the original copyright. Just make sure you pause it between each part, and comment about it. Lastly, research the background of the song, as Tuomas, the keyboardist, who writes 95% of the music for Nightwish, wrote Poet and the Pendulum from a place of dark depression, anger, rage, and hope -- all because of having to fire Nightwish's first vocalist, Tarja Tarunen.
Being Symphonic Metal allows them to take their music in several different directions. They have the huge epis multipart masterpiece production songs like this or "the poet and the pendulum" or "The greatest show on earth". They also have several of the more classic heavy thrash metal sound in songs like "Romanticide" or "Song of Myself" or Dark Chest of Wonders".. they even have a very celtic rock sound on songs like "E'lan" and "the Walden".. Your choice, take your pick or like us, love it all..
''SHE DID PRETTY WELL''😊.......it must be from the counting: 1,2,3,4; 1,2,3,4.....that's what happens when you can't see the forest for the trees. Girl, let me educate you: the only sounds Floor may do "pretty well" are either when she gets hiccups or when she blows her nose. The rest ? Exquisite.
:-)
Yep, being the vocalist on a band that sells millions of records is "pretty well", this so-called "teacher" probably doesn't even have a job.
I'm so happy with my very old amplifier, it has a mono /stereo switch and it is on mono now...
Yeah sorry about that! Lol
Nice job. More Nightwish please.
You're one of the first reactors to break down the measure at the beginning, props for doing that! :)
Really loved your analysis and what you had to say about Nightwish
Don't pay attention to the dislikes, unfortunately there's a portion of the fans that are more like "Floor fans" and they think that the only thing you should pay attention to is Floor - the singer, and even though she is great I'm glad you payed more attention to the band itself cause the band really is amazing!
They are active from 1996 and they've had 3 singers up until now, this one being their current singer - Floor Jansen.
I'd love you to check out one of their signature covers Phantom of the Opera live from End of and Era concert with their first singer - Tarja, I think you'll like that one :)
Thank you! I appreciate your comment! :) ill keep that recommendation in mind!
Yeah, I haven't seen many folks do a breakdown of the time signatures. However, the intro is just a pattern of drag-triplets (with the second note rested) over standard 4/4 time. As she said, it creates a 3 against 4 pull. It sounds like it resolves down to a cut-time signature for that allows for two sets of triplets between each beet. It's very cool. Though I think Toto did the 3 over 4 patter for the intro to Rosanna. Either way, it sets up a very good position of tension leading the listener to yearn for resolution which is where the vocal story begins. Excellent artistry.
@@sangorilla1 The rhythm you're speaking about is actually in the 2nd part of the intro where it indeed is 4/4, 4/4, 3/4 and 4/4. But she got the very beginning exactly right - 6-6-5-6 of fast-paced quarters, or, more precisely, 12/8, 12/8, 10/8, 12/8 with the three beats exactly 3/8 apart. That's the reason why it might sound as a standard 4/4 (because there are four 3/8s in a 12/8, right?) but it's actually not the case in the very beginning, just listen carefully to the drumming.
Anyway, props to both Marlene and you for breaking it down and for explaining - my terminology is somewhat narrow to be able to correctly explain it. ;)
Edit: quite possibly, it is not 12/8 and 10/8 but more like 12/16 and 10/16 respectively, depending on the base tempo chosen. I've obviously never seen the score on paper so I'm just guessing whether they are 8ths or 16ths, but otherwise I stand by what I wrote.
@@Beus38 Here is the rhythm breakdown of the opening sequence:
(3-3) (3-3) (3-3) (2-2-2) (3-3) (4) (3-3) (2-2-2) then repeated three more times before transitioning to 4/4.
The eight measure phrase consists of three measures with two sets of triplets, then one measure with three pairs, two more triplets, one set of 4, two triplets, three pairs.
It took me about a year to get it, but that sixth measure with four beats is the key to the whole thing. Drove me nuts. As a former drummer, I get OCD about dropped beats and added beats.
@@tcish4708 Yeah, it took me a while to understand your notation and the explanation below but I did and you've got it correctly - it's the same thing that I was saying, just somewhat more expertly put ;) Although, the second measure is a bit ambiguous as there is pretty much nothing happening in it, no beat, no tone (except for the first and only one at its beginning), so it can as well be (2-2-2) or anything else summing up to 6.
And it's exactly as you said - the key here is the 6th measure with 4 beats instead of 6 - this is where the irregularity happens. That's what I meant with those 10/8 in the third position, when you break them down to 6/8 + 4/8.
Anyway, thanks for the reply, pleasure to talk with a musician, especially when he proves me right ;) My musical education is somewhat washed-out after all those years of being barely put to use, but my ears never fail me :)
Since you mentioned it, I also checked out your other NW reaction. There you mentioned you didn't like Marko's vocals. If you want to give him another shot on vocals, you should try "While your lips are still red": ruclips.net/video/5V7PKv493Ic/видео.html
For the full on stage orchestra yo should take a look at Epica - Sancte Terra (with Floor Jansen as a guest performer) Epica was founded by Mark Jansen (not related) the guitar player of Floor's first band After Forever. And for a while Floor was the vocal coach of the singer of Epica Simone Simons.
More from that concert please
I believe the count you were referring to is a 9/8 rhythm. 1,2,3,4,5,6,789. At least that’s what it sounds like when I try to count it out.
Love your hair
Not a lot of people notices the compound meters, even fewer does the count. I like that. If you like that sort of stuff, maybe you could react to and break down "When The Water Breaks" by Liquid Tension Experiment? It's a near 18 minute long and very progressive instrumental only track that takes compound meters to new levels. It has been covered by "youtube musicians", so understanding it is not incomprehensible:
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Regarding Floor, when she agreed to step in, she had 48 hours to learn the complete set list, some of the hours spent on a plane, meaning she was probably fighting jet lag as well during her first show. This track is usually featured towards the end, but according to herself it's one of her favorite ones to sing. Completely different style of music, but you may also want to check out her Phantom Of The Opera version, with Henk Poort (actual Dutch phantom):
ruclips.net/video/plCScjvDOJM/видео.html
She's also featured in Ayreon projects, along with an impressive list of vocalists and artists. These are progressive rock operas in all sorts of styles, soundscapes, and complexities, but the progressiveness never goes overboard. Valley Of The Queens is a nice but short one, with three layered singers exploring harmonies with three distinct vocal qualities:
ruclips.net/video/TbebO5BZi-I/видео.html&ab_channel=ArjenAnthonyLucassen
On or off cam? Check youtube if they are popular to react to and decide for yourself.
The poet and the pendulum is their best song to me
I love Nightwish as a band and Floor as a singer but there are people on this comment thread that should dial down their cult-like behavior a step or two.
This RUclipsr is just giving her reaction which includes her looking at this from her perspective as a music teacher. The militant Nightwish and Floor Jansen fan responses that demand a specific type reply are pretty sad. How dare people not react to YOUR expectation. It is confirmation bias masturbation of the most annoying order.
agreed
Yes, this.
lol cry more boomer
@@patgrt83 Ooooh so edgy. Careful you don't cut yourself there, kiddo. I'm not a boomer and I bet forkless isn't either. Still, what they said is true. Anyone with a set of ears that function even slightly can hear how talented Floor is. We don't all have to go around OOOOHing and AHHHHing. Some of us are a little more reserved and just go "Yup. That was good". This reactor is a musician, not a singer. She focused on the band more than any other reaction I've seen, and THEY deserve to be recognized, too. They're all well above par musicians that can hold their own around someone on Floor's level, and I really enjoyed listening to someone paying to attention to something other than the Floorgasm.
You have to check out a Japanese band named "Band maid".
Highly skilled musicians and great music. If you look away from the lyrics since they sing in their native language, they're awesome.
Dice(mv), Play(live), Blooming(mv), Moratorium(live) are great.
Considered Nightwish: most of their symphonic parts are pre-recorded by orchestra and choir. I know they've used London Philharmonic. Live? Not sure... but I guess it's to keep costs down?
Want to see metal with full orchestra? Check out Dimmu borgir - Gateways (forces of the northern night, live Oslo) just epic!
Btw.. you're very cute😉
Thanks for the recommendations, Ill check it out!
Floor Jansen is an Angel sent from Heaven to help the band after the lost of the last singer. Only Angels can learn a concert worth of lyrics in only 48 hours.
Epica with floor jansen, sancta terra wow 😇🤘
More than nice voice it´s fantastic
My all time favorite song !!! Great reaction please react next to : Within Temptation - Angels
Try Nightwish - Romanticide or The HU - Wolf Totem (without the roach)
Awesome!!! Next check out"Nightwish Romanticide"live frm the same show!!!
check Floor(the singer) with Henk Poort, the panthom of the opera
Gosh... I was thinking my headphones got broken. It’s weird to hear sound only in 1 of them.
Yeah sorry about that! Lol
Hi dear, your voice sounds like Cotton Candy, to help you understand the Nightwish symphonic system:
The drummer has a clicker in his ear, he is the guy with the cues. The choir and the symphonic sounds come from pre-recorded tracks by the London Philarmonic Orchestra. Add this to extremely talented musicians and the result is what you see and listen to.
Epica Sancta Terra live feat Floor Jansen (with orchestra and choir)
The orchestra is from a live studio recording of an actual orchestra that they are using as a backing track. It is not from the keyboardist.
Floor is the best from Holland ❤❤❤
“Music teacher” clickbait
Total nonsense!!
Dirtnap1986 ikr
Hahahaha savage
Music teacher for the short bus.....
Sounds like several measures of 6/8 followed by one of 5/8.
You sgould react to her husbands band called Sabaton. They play songs about War and historic peaple. Their new video seven pillars of wisdome or Ghost division from Wacken are two great song but they have so many and alot of their videos great
Nightwish, Wacken Germany :) the best ....
I think you should react to Song of my self. From the same 2013 concert.
Just wanted to say that your hair is fucking gorgeous 😍
I believe it’s the 13th song of a 16 song set.😉
Not so much "Xmas" as it is 'Folk'. But otherwise, awesome reaction, I'm glad you got to experience it. Cheers!!
At least you didn't refer to Floor as "the chick" and laugh put of boredom (which she actually said) during the song, like I watched one reactor do. THAT is rude and disrespectful, not simply reacting to Floor hitting that last "Floorgasmic" note without the level of enthusiasm some fans expect. As other commenters have said, Floor's greatness lies not just in her power and 4-octave vocal range, but in her ability to do any style of music with passion and virtuoso vocal skill. She belts out great rock vocals in "Romanticide," growls convincingly in "Yours is an Empty Hope," and breaks your heart with tender vibrato and emotion in "Shallow" and "Winner" from Beste Zangers (a Dutch TV show). No one can truly appreciate Floor after just one song, and you shouldn't be expected to either.
At least she didn't refer to Floor as "like Amy Lee".
Good grief, people. Marlene, I'm really really sorry for the idiocy of a few of my fellow Nightwish fans. x
Thank you Hazel 💕
@@MarleneMendozaMusic You're welcome. :-)
Live orchestra? Do you know what that costs? You would that only on really special occasions, not on a rock festival.
Reactor - "She has a very nice soprano operatic voice ..."
Watchers - Ya think?
Floor - Hold that thought.
I think that this is 12 or 13 song...she is goddess to her time no matter... Lol
Nice video, nice reaction.
Small tip for the future, try to balance the volume between you and the video a little more. most of the time it was quite hard to understand what you were saying.
Other than that it was good, it was honest... i liked it.
Ahh you're like the only person to actually comment on the irregular rhythm in the intro. I tripped out trying to figure it out my first listen too.
No she isn't!! I have seen other reactors mention the irregular "chug" during the beginning.
@@Dirtnap1986 I don't know what you mean by "chug", but I meant specifically about the changing time signatures.
Is it still possible to announce the arrivel of the Nightwish Army? Or is it after 3 hours already too late..
Reporting late for duty, I just arrived 😁. The battlefield looks messy but I believe we have the upper hand here. Great job overall! 👍
another good female lead: completely different but also famous for her voice: Anegela Gusow, Arch Enemy
ruclips.net/video/n9AcG0glVu4/видео.html
and another awesome female singer. bandname is "In this Moment" title: Whore
ruclips.net/video/GurkREc-q4I/видео.html
I think your microphone is set to Mono or locked to Left Speaker Stereo.
Yeah, sorry bout that! I realized after uploading and was too late haha
Still crazy to think this was an hour or so in lol
Yeah I think its crazy too! Haha
You listen to music the way I do. Always counting the beats :) Awesome
I want to like the video, but it's currently sitting at 666 likes, and feel I shouldn't touch it
You should totally check out SOS by Damish Kudaibergen :)
Guys, if she says "pretty well", that's a compliment. Not everyone is going to fall all over themselves. What more do you want? Seriously. We all react however we react, right?
Maybe if she had said "she did really well there" instead of pretty well. "Pretty well" sounds like "it was just decent".
Maybe that's her honest opinion, that's it's just decent and not the greatest thing ever. Just let everyone enjoy music however they enjoy it.
@@jimmyboy131
"Decent" ha!! That's rich coming from so called "vocal coaches" on youtube! The day I see any of these technique analyzing pricks have a crowd of over 82,000 people eating out the palm of there hands and sound this good 13 songs in, then I would think they have something of value to say. Until then........
I did say “really well” not “pretty well”
@@jimmyboy131 I think because so many very experienced voice teachers/coaches,etc have expressed so eloquently just how very talented and how rare Floor's abilities are that to see someone who claims to have a level of knowledge about vocal capabilities would be so nonchalant about Floor's talent can be a little off putting. my opinion
“She did really well there!” Really? That’s all you have to say in the presence of a goddess?! And this was 2013!
😎🎶👍 13th song
Marlene you might like, Angels by Within Temptation
See if you could keep up with Dance of Eternity be Dream Theater
Yeah it was about 75mins into the set.
What you often see is that the young vocalcoaches (like our musicteacher here) think they can match the voice of Floor thinking so read. They don't realize that Floor's voice is unique and far too high for the vocalcoaches themselves.The lady said...her voice is pretty well...................of course her voice is much better than the voice of Floor :)
Maybe she should have watched a version that wasn't live, because this being the 13th song in a 15 song set, this isn't the best version of this song. I love this band, but some performances, including this one, just ain't got what I know this band is capable of. You want an honest reaction, or you want someone to fluff your feathers for no reason and lie to you?