Not to mention, having to stop that fast could have injured any passengers standing up making their way to the door to get off the train. Makes perfect sense why they should refuse service to him that day in that context as well, even if he didn't get hit
@@AwkwardYet Yup, I've stopped a light NW2 diesel switcher before without bailing off the locomotive brake at 10mph while coming to a stop. Even with a tiny bit of brake applied initially, it's certainly not the most comfortable kind of stop. I learned quickly after that, haha
Most people will never get it. There's been train fatalities since the 1800s It's like a virus in people's brain when they hear the oncoming train bells ringing, lights flashing and or gates are down... Completely avoiding all the trains warning signs. I think people need to watch the uncensored video about what happen to this lady name Mary T Wojtyla back in 1991 when she was struck by a Metra Commuter Train. Her lawyer was inches away from getting struck by the train. But she kept going without looking. Due to their impatience.
@@awepossum1059 You shouldn't even make an attempt to cross the train track or tracks period. It's like playing Russian Roulette with your life. Especially when there's oncoming train or trains coming your way. And even when you don't see any warning train signs and all you see is the track or tracks. You still need to look both ways. Just like crossing the streets or highways...Parents need to teach their kids about railway safety.
Agreed, not just for running in front of the train, but it's possible some passengers walking to the door to get off could have gotten hurt for having to stop that fast
As a Conductor whose had a fatality, the average person doesn’t understand what the crew goes through when they strike someone. The biker is lucky that all what happened was denial of service.
@@Olivers_RailAdventures Hardly. A train track is closed off to pedestrians due to high speeds and inability to stop so if a pedestrian gets hit by a train it is always the pedestrians fault as they are somewhere they shouldn't be.
That's exactly what happened to a UP train hitting a woman. They said the car (and driver) was crushed. The locomotive??? Some paint and replace some hydraulic hoses.
One comment that I did not see here is that the reason an emergency stop for the train is so serious is that passengers on board the train can fall and get seriously injured. That is why it is a big deal even if the person on the bike was not hit. I have personally seen people fall on Metrolink and the Metro subway in Los Angeles, just during normal acceleration and deceleration, much less emergency braking.
Yep, no locomotive should ever have emergency brakes. Because the passengers can fall and trains get delayed, the emergency horn is better so that everyone survives. And if they’re tied to the tracks. They would already be electrocuted, but use to normal brakes so the riders survive too!
@@METX141railfan that be the stupidest opinion I’ve ever heard… Please try saying that to the 107 lost lives of the Amagaaki Derailment… That driver use the service brake, not the emergency brake intentionally. If he did, 107 lives would have been saved…
I mean Like most commenters, I personally don't understand why he couldn't have waited till the train stopped.....but Like even if he was SOOOO desperate to cross the tracks before the train, the train was going slow enough that he could have biked to the other end of the station and just try to put as much space between himself and the train to at least minimize the chance of angering the engineers. I grew up in a neighborhood surrounded by woods, with a Class 3 railroad going through them (no train went above 15 mph, for what it's worth). My friends and my brother & I practically spent half our middle school years walking along them....and honestly because we just loved trains so much, we had several spots along the tracks that we'd just hang out and talk for the day while we just waited for some trains to go by and watch (and NO, we never drank or otherwise misbehaved). The thing is not only just having practical common sense for safety & being aware of your surroundings at all times, but just treating the railroad and engineers with the same respect we treated our neighbors with. I mean we weren't afraid of being hit by a surprise fast train....15mph was the max speed for trains, they only use MP15 engines that are abnormally loud, and we always had signal lights in our view that we learned ALWAYS started flashing yellow when a train was about 5 minutes away, and immediately would get far to the side. Back then a lot of it was mostly mediated by fear of getting caught and in trouble, but now as an intensely empathetic 31 year old with a rather decent understanding of psychology and whatnot, I can't even begin to fathom just how traumatic it must be for an engineer to have a close call, or God forbid the worst case scenario. Or imagine the trauma these bystanders would experience if he DID get hit. TL;DR - I grew up near a railroad, and my friends and I were taught all about common sense railroad safety and awareness of one's surroundings as a kid; it's kept me alive for 31 years, and don't understand how someone making a close call decision can't think about the potentially traumatic impact the engineers experience during these events either.
@@pattym9182 Never mind the engineer or the bystanders -- why not just have a sense of self-preservation to begin with??? I mean, would he run in front of an 18-wheeler like that??? And if not, then why would a train be any different??? (FWIW, I live in the SF Gay Area not far from where this incident happened -- Milpitas, to be more precise -- and where I live, many bicyclists (not all by any means, but many) are total assholes with a major sense of entitlement, they literally think that they own the road and that everyone (including trucks, trains and emergency vehicles) must give them the right of way at all times!)
Engineer was on alert. I mean it's bad enough this dude crossed right in front of the train, but he actually SLOWED down when he crossed the track. You better be sprinting
I’ll even take a moment to consider the urgency of the biker felt since this was the last train of the day: Bakersfield is set up in such a way where you can cross at the street once the train stops. Biker would have more than enough time to cross considering the amount of people getting on the train. Hell, since the boarding gate changed, you may even be lucky enough to get a crew member to drop one of the stairs for you. I’m sure many of them would understand the confusion it causes. But all things considered, there really is no way to justify running in front of a moving train. Any moving vehicle if we’re being honest.
True, he could have waited for the train to stop and go around it, he had plenty of time because there were 2 freight trains blocking the mainline so he amtrak had to wait anyways
@@NorCaliRailroading2023 yeah considering all of that there as no way he'd miss the train and if the crossing was ahead of the loco the driver would have seen him coming and waited, no way to justify his actions
I also dont like how easily-crossable those tracks are. I only train around the midwest, but i never seen a station where the train tracks are parallel to the ground where the passengers are standing off of. They really made it too easy for some idiot with a bike to wanna cross it last-minute. Im not even approving the person's actions, im just pointing-out how easy it is to cross the other side of the tracks
That’s what I was thinking. No reason for this other than just plain stupidity. Lack of any sense in his brain. The trains right there! Wait for it to stop and I’m sure you can figure a way to get on.
I was catching the Amtrak Missouri River Runner in Kirkwood a few days ago, and a woman was crossing the tracks when the gates were down. The train was seconds away from hitting her.
It is her Fault because she could’ve been waiting for the Train , God , I don’t like when people do that! I wish that she could have been more careful about The Railroad Crossings being down when the Train was coming because she should have known that the Train was coming, but she didn’t! I am like, What the Hell? She Could Have Been Killed! 😬
Funny enough I teached a lot of people I know with common sense. In this occasion I would say " like you couldn't wait"? "Better to be safe then sorry by being late by a few minutes"
You don’t watch much train videos! Railfan channel recorded a man in a motorized wheelchair with a leashed dog doing the same thing!! I believe near Cincinnati. UK video showed a woman pushing a baby buggy stepping in front of an approaching train crossing with seconds to spare!
This station design provides no significant line of demarcation, barrier, or separation between passengers and the train. No handrails or barricades, no pedestrian overpass, no difference in elevation or raised platform, nothing but a damn yellow line. Apparently, the architect failed to take into account the abject stupidity of people, when they are distracted or in a rush. Yes, the person with the bike was, in fact, a dumbass. What was the designer's excuse?
So "This Sign Has Sharp Edges"??? How about PEOPLE WATCH and Look out for Themselves. I don't Want to live in a world where the government protects me from myself!!!!
@@NorCaliRailroading2023 Maybe people actually getting a harsh consequence may start cutting down on the ignorance. A big inconvenience to him for his ignorance. World has gotten crazy stupid. 😔
WOW! What an idiot🙄 What is in his right hand, is he filming himself running in front of the train? I love how that Engineer banned him from his train. Good for him! No Idiots Allowed!
@@RailfanofChicagoandMorehell no, why would they do that for him, when he caused confusion and delay for the passengers, station agent, and the conductor
@@RailfanofChicagoandMoreper Amtrak policy, “Amtrak may refuse to carry any passenger ‘who refuse to comply with safety or security rules or with instructions of Amtrak personnel’ and ‘Who pose a health, safety or security hazard to other passengers or employees’” “Amtrak employees or other authorized carrier representatives may such a passenger from the train at any inhabited place, as necessary under the circumstances, for any of the above reasons” No refund is required to be issued As well, since the San Joaquin is not reserved, his ticket (unless seized and/or canceled by Amtrak) is still valid for one year. Nothing is stopping him from taking the next train at no additional cost.
Emergency brake was applied, 0:37 is the air dumping out of the system and you can see the emergency red beacon on the NPCU flashing which only flashes when the emergency brake is applied. (0:44)
So much of a summary of American intercity rail here. Platform crossing over the rails, last train of the day arriving in broad daylight, scheduling getting messed up because of UP freight, and of course someone being careless around trains. I'm glad at least the newer tech prevented a tragedy.
I agree with you but just a heads up, they cant run any trains later than 6 pm since the journey takes 6 hours so any train later than that would be over night
Yeah, this looks like a third world country. I can imagine a cyclist would be confused if the train just goes across the pavement like that. In the civilized world, you can only cross at crossings with lights and bells and a whole circus.
I saw a documentary where a train engineer said, “If you do this as a career, sooner or later, you’re going to kill someone trying to beat the train. It’s not a question of ‘if’ but a question of ‘when’.”
@@CruceEntertainment The tracks run down the middle of a street. So the whole infrastructure would need changed. Oakland/Emeryville is Broke as it is.....they ain't about to do anything.
The emergency brakes have at least a 1 minute cooldown before they can be released; and will need to be called in before the train can continue, if Amtrak has that policy.
Anyone with even a basic idea of math and (real applied) science can straight away understand there's an enormous amount of force necessary to bring the train to a stop, and how that all translates into heat. Right, exactly as you say. I would suspect that it might be longer, but I don't know about trains so much to know that deeply.
@@utahrailfan1946 They should make it on both sides to prevent this motive from occurring again. Thanks for the information. The fool had a bike too, and he could’ve just went around the train now that I think of it once it stopped.
@@42luke93 There's no realistic way to do that. They could add a third passenger track, for the other side of the platform he's standing on, but that would still cut across this area. Expanding the current platform to fill the gap is far from realistic.
@@Crazy-Clown-In-Town address us as kings, nor was the train going 1 mph, you clearly know nothing about railroading or railroad safety thanks for the comment!
@@NorCaliRailroading2023 How much clearer could it have been? Everyone else waiting to board was at that platform. Besides, has he never heard of "Stop, look and listen"? He did none of those; it doesn't matter what track the train was or was not on.
There were like 30 other people waiting on Track 1, so clearly this isn't an Amtrak problem about "making it more clear that trains go to Track 1" @@NorCaliRailroading2023
Blimey! That's fast for a railway line without platforms. I know trams run fast in the street but you don't expect to see a train doing it on a level surface. Props to the driver from an ex main line passenger train driver 👏👏👏
@@NorCaliRailroading2023 Now IF.......the biker would have waited, he would have boarded correct!? What's even the waiting time of boarding at that station? there is a ramp at the front of the platform to go around the engine correct? 🚅🚂
This couldn't have happened in the UK, where all stations have platforms. I'm amazed to see all those people standing at track level waiting to get on a train. 😮
Even the most dilapidated mainline rail stations in malaysia have platforms, i can't fathom not being able to simply raise the platform higher, making it slanted on each end for wheelchairs and overall easier acccess.
I thought that was more when they were ripped up because they cannot compete with car addicts and cyclists get flung a tiny shard of a bone as we all lose out on good infrastructure in the long run!
@@5688gamble That is in theory; in practice, political strings pulled result in closure, and potential transit corridors are converted into linear parks much to the delight of the NIMBYs ; and the highway lobby.
Do you live near the Saranac Lake area? They recently tore up a beautiful rail line and made it into a trail. What a shame because that was a good stretch of railroad that I'm sure would be useful to get around the north country.
This "platform" or "station" is ridiculously dangerous! It forces people to cross the tracks! Except you can enter the train on two sides!? - which I do not assume! The train was driving slowly already and should have stopped in approx. 30 meters. So what is the fuss about? People are not using their senses and brain, that is why it is important to build everything idiotproof! Here it is not!
I was on an Amtrak from California to Oregon when it cut a pickup truck in half. Fortunately, the driver suffered only minor injuries. It was crazy how we didn't feel any impact at all. We just started slowing down and I looked out the window and saw half a truck with a guy sitting in the driver's seat with both hands still on the wheel.
Me and the fam were on the California Zephyr Amtrak and we hit a MASSIVE tree trunk somewhere in Colorado. I only know because I saw it splinter and fly off out my window. Didnt feel a thing.
@@lalakerspro but more difficult to bord or debord the train. It has been decades since I saw the last rather flat platform, but it wasn't at ground level like this one. Would make more sense to have a pedestrian crossing, underpass or bridge
There is a bridge but it goes to the shopping complex instead. The flat track isnt used that often anyway. People just need to have common sense and not walk across a track when the train is coming@@EnjoyFirefighting
Yea, they can definitely install a pedestrian crossing at that track at each end, but this is the only station on the line that people cross tracks like this, the rest have a crossing, underpass, or are single tracked@@EnjoyFirefighting
There is a reason why Indian Railways worked so hard to eliminate all unmanned level crossings. Next step they are taking is automatic doors on all suburban trains in Mumbai. These two steps alone will cut down deaths on Indian Railways by half. The remaining deaths will continue to be mostly due to the kind of accident that was about to happen in this video.
Okay while what he did was stupid Why the fuck is the station designed like that? Whats a yellow line going to do? Thats just several lawsuits just waiting to happen!
People also need to realize that the engineer dumped the train at 0:37. Had he not plugged the train then he would’ve been hit bc it wouldn’t be stopping nearly as quickly
Everyone knocking this guy has never had to catch a train in LA. The video even explained this wasnt the normal track, that guy on the bicycle was rushing to get on the train that wasnt arriving on the set of tracks it was supposed to, i see people miss them every week because of last minute track switches.
Train was going 15 miles per hour tops. Not saying it wasnt rude to the amtrak but everyone acting like he almost died is being dramatic. He jaywalked at a train stop.
@@NorCaliRailroading2023 Wow that was a fast reply, I just scrolled down and hit my own comment again and I saw it was updated xD I've been reading the comments here. We've got a lot of smart people and then there's the handful of idiots as usual 😂 Great video, thanks for bringing the danger of crossing rails with a train coming to an even brighter light than it already was in!
0:38 For this minimum mandatory punishment should be: 1 year in jail (no less) and coverage of COMPLETE cost of the stoppage of the train, delay time, material wear.. all of it. Then they (he) will learn.
Hi, would it be ok if I Use a brief clip of this for a student documentary I'm making about the quiet zone in Downtown San Diego? To demonstrate how a lot of people don't respect train safety.
Well this is like the most stupidest thing ever. If u are so strict with laws then at least build an overhead pedestrian bridge for the late arrivers and a fence to guard either side of the tracks. This is probably the most irresponsibly built and dangerous train halt in the entire world.
Biker things he'll make it. It'll be close but he'll make it. He honestly has no idea how batshit scared the crew is because of his actions. They don't know if he's going to make it, and now their heart is in their throat.
i love trains and mass transit so much and i am very anti car and i know i should be friends with the cyclist. but, i’ve never met a cyclist that isn’t a self centered asshole.
Is no one going to talk about the rare F40PH in the latest Amtrak colors? I didn’t even know Amtrak had any left, other than the cascades possibly. Let alone painted in the latest Amtrak colors.
That's actually a "Cabbage Car" or combination cab control and baggage car, converted from a retired F40PH. Spotting features would be the baggage door on the sides as well as the 5 digit road number (Amtrak adds a "90" before the old road number for cabbage cars), as well as the total lack of engine noise.
the thing that gets me the most, he had a bike, he could have rode down the length of track to cross first, instead of scurrying in front of the train.
I recently saw what an oncoming train does to cows, deers and horses that got on the track hence why I got recommended this video and it would definitely not been a pretty sight if it werent for the engineer pulling the emergency brake last second.
Amtrak should be ashamed of its safety norms. You cannot just walk across the tracks at any European city's railway station that I have ever seen. American inter-city rail stations are so primitive, it's like the third world.
I can't be the only one who thinks everybody over reacted... the bike dude CLEARLY had enough time to make it across before the train even got to where he was crossing. 🤣
@@NorCaliRailroading2023 are we watching the same video? Lol the perspective plays tricks on the eyes but to me it is very obvious he would have made it across safely with time to spare. The emergency brake wasn't needed. Nor was everyone freaking out and yelling at him. 🤷🏼♂️
they did overreact they should have let him on. I feel like i'm the only one on that opinion too though lol, because it feels totally wrong to not let someone on a ride they already paid for
Please read: the driver didnt say *bike and a rope* he said *bicycle* I also misspelt San Joaquin which I spelt it as San Juaquin
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I'm pretty sure he's just saying "bicycle" not "bike and phone"
@@Poker2662 maybe, my hearing isn’t the best haha
@@Erich__88
First what?
Is there a prize?
I understand that you can't correct the typo in the video but you *can* correct it in the description.
Props to that engineer for being so alert. He initiated that brake well before the guy even reached the tracks.
Ya he set it off pretty early
yeah must have seen him running and just hit it you can hear the air pop,class observation on surroundings
Not to mention, having to stop that fast could have injured any passengers standing up making their way to the door to get off the train. Makes perfect sense why they should refuse service to him that day in that context as well, even if he didn't get hit
@@BRIANumber7-RCandModelsoh trust me it jostles you pretty badly
@@AwkwardYet Yup, I've stopped a light NW2 diesel switcher before without bailing off the locomotive brake at 10mph while coming to a stop. Even with a tiny bit of brake applied initially, it's certainly not the most comfortable kind of stop. I learned quickly after that, haha
Something never changes when it comes to people crossing tracks while the train is coming.
Most people will never get it. There's been train fatalities since the 1800s It's like a virus in people's brain when they hear the oncoming train bells ringing, lights flashing and or gates are down... Completely avoiding all the trains warning signs. I think people need to watch the uncensored video about what happen to this lady name Mary T Wojtyla back in 1991 when she was struck by a Metra Commuter Train. Her lawyer was inches away from getting struck by the train. But she kept going without looking. Due to their impatience.
Deer in the headlights sort of thing.
Because 99 times they cross and nothing happens, and no video of it
but on the 100th time you do it thats when things go wrong
@@awepossum1059
Sooner or later we all have to pay the
piper.
@@awepossum1059 You shouldn't even make an attempt to cross the train track or tracks period. It's like playing Russian Roulette with your life. Especially when there's oncoming train or trains coming your way. And even when you don't see any warning train signs and all you see is the track or tracks. You still need to look both ways. Just like crossing the streets or highways...Parents need to teach their kids about railway safety.
The engineer was fully justified in banning the rider from the train.
Agreed, not just for running in front of the train, but it's possible some passengers walking to the door to get off could have gotten hurt for having to stop that fast
He's fcked.
The thing is is that he is an adrenilein junkie. He didnt want to ride the train but just to beat the train, and he did by stopping it.
I mean he wouldn't have been riding it anyway unless someone opened the other side, so it really isn't a punishment!
Now he can just ride his bike there if he really wants to go that badly.
Dude really messed up when you have the commuters, passengers, conductor, engineer and FOAMERS scolding you.
A good ol fashioned scolding is needed badly in our society.
Take not only the cake take the cake shop
Yea no kidding lol
ngl foamers at least here are at war with the staff, public and themselves
@@jrt2792RIGHT😂
Darwin Award runner up. There's no way he didn't see the train, he chose this
And there’s no way he didn’t hear it either
unless he had those nose headphones where you cant hear a thing with them on @@yoshster0612
yes he chose and would have made it easily. thats daily business in india
@@tajothy2692 People get hit by trains in India everyday, null point
@@tajothy2692many die in India due to that type of stupidity and indifference to loss of life!
As a Conductor whose had a fatality, the average person doesn’t understand what the crew goes through when they strike someone. The biker is lucky that all what happened was denial of service.
Yes, people panic and don’t think twice
Biker wouldve rather denied his own service
Couple bits of paperwork. Nothing major.
@@FiregloA couple bits of paperwork with potentially long lasting affects on the driver which could end their career.
@@Olivers_RailAdventures Hardly. A train track is closed off to pedestrians due to high speeds and inability to stop so if a pedestrian gets hit by a train it is always the pedestrians fault as they are somewhere they shouldn't be.
That's super dangerous. Two seconds later and he could have slightly scratched the paint on the train.
Ya that idiot nearly ruined the ex f40ph!!!
This dude get karma for doing that and stupid 💀
If it were going a lot faster than that, Amtrak might be considering their new paint scheme: "A Splash of Red"
That's exactly what happened to a UP train hitting a woman. They said the car (and driver) was crushed. The locomotive??? Some paint and replace some hydraulic hoses.
@@h.mandelene3279 yup train always wins!
One comment that I did not see here is that the reason an emergency stop for the train is so serious is that passengers on board the train can fall and get seriously injured. That is why it is a big deal even if the person on the bike was not hit. I have personally seen people fall on Metrolink and the Metro subway in Los Angeles, just during normal acceleration and deceleration, much less emergency braking.
Yes, a couple people stated that but not much, the train stopped pretty quickly. Emergency brakes are very powerful!
Yep, no locomotive should ever have emergency brakes. Because the passengers can fall and trains get delayed, the emergency horn is better so that everyone survives. And if they’re tied to the tracks. They would already be electrocuted, but use to normal brakes so the riders survive too!
It also takes a while to reset before you can move the train again, which means all those passengers have to wait.
@@METX141railfan that be the stupidest opinion I’ve ever heard… Please try saying that to the 107 lost lives of the Amagaaki Derailment…
That driver use the service brake, not the emergency brake intentionally. If he did, 107 lives would have been saved…
Out of all the actions this dude could’ve taken, he decided running in front of the train was the best idea. I love humanity.
Don't blame humanity, blame this particular type of human
He didn't even have enough brains to know that his organs would have been too squished for donation!
I mean Like most commenters, I personally don't understand why he couldn't have waited till the train stopped.....but Like even if he was SOOOO desperate to cross the tracks before the train, the train was going slow enough that he could have biked to the other end of the station and just try to put as much space between himself and the train to at least minimize the chance of angering the engineers.
I grew up in a neighborhood surrounded by woods, with a Class 3 railroad going through them (no train went above 15 mph, for what it's worth). My friends and my brother & I practically spent half our middle school years walking along them....and honestly because we just loved trains so much, we had several spots along the tracks that we'd just hang out and talk for the day while we just waited for some trains to go by and watch (and NO, we never drank or otherwise misbehaved). The thing is not only just having practical common sense for safety & being aware of your surroundings at all times, but just treating the railroad and engineers with the same respect we treated our neighbors with. I mean we weren't afraid of being hit by a surprise fast train....15mph was the max speed for trains, they only use MP15 engines that are abnormally loud, and we always had signal lights in our view that we learned ALWAYS started flashing yellow when a train was about 5 minutes away, and immediately would get far to the side. Back then a lot of it was mostly mediated by fear of getting caught and in trouble, but now as an intensely empathetic 31 year old with a rather decent understanding of psychology and whatnot, I can't even begin to fathom just how traumatic it must be for an engineer to have a close call, or God forbid the worst case scenario. Or imagine the trauma these bystanders would experience if he DID get hit.
TL;DR - I grew up near a railroad, and my friends and I were taught all about common sense railroad safety and awareness of one's surroundings as a kid; it's kept me alive for 31 years, and don't understand how someone making a close call decision can't think about the potentially traumatic impact the engineers experience during these events either.
@@pattym9182 That's a great point
@@pattym9182 Never mind the engineer or the bystanders -- why not just have a sense of self-preservation to begin with??? I mean, would he run in front of an 18-wheeler like that??? And if not, then why would a train be any different??? (FWIW, I live in the SF Gay Area not far from where this incident happened -- Milpitas, to be more precise -- and where I live, many bicyclists (not all by any means, but many) are total assholes with a major sense of entitlement, they literally think that they own the road and that everyone (including trucks, trains and emergency vehicles) must give them the right of way at all times!)
Engineer was totally on the ball and I'm glad the crowd let him know what was up.
Engineer was on alert. I mean it's bad enough this dude crossed right in front of the train, but he actually SLOWED down when he crossed the track. You better be sprinting
First thing I thought was "that guy is not getting on this train", then the engineer said that. Props to the crew for being on the ball.
for sure!
The "Go away" made me chuckle.
I’ll even take a moment to consider the urgency of the biker felt since this was the last train of the day:
Bakersfield is set up in such a way where you can cross at the street once the train stops. Biker would have more than enough time to cross considering the amount of people getting on the train.
Hell, since the boarding gate changed, you may even be lucky enough to get a crew member to drop one of the stairs for you. I’m sure many of them would understand the confusion it causes.
But all things considered, there really is no way to justify running in front of a moving train. Any moving vehicle if we’re being honest.
True, he could have waited for the train to stop and go around it, he had plenty of time because there were 2 freight trains blocking the mainline so he amtrak had to wait anyways
@@NorCaliRailroading2023 yeah considering all of that there as no way he'd miss the train and if the crossing was ahead of the loco the driver would have seen him coming and waited, no way to justify his actions
I also dont like how easily-crossable those tracks are. I only train around the midwest, but i never seen a station where the train tracks are parallel to the ground where the passengers are standing off of. They really made it too easy for some idiot with a bike to wanna cross it last-minute. Im not even approving the person's actions, im just pointing-out how easy it is to cross the other side of the tracks
This isn't Bakersfield though, otherwise l agree with you.
That’s what I was thinking. No reason for this other than just plain stupidity. Lack of any sense in his brain. The trains right there! Wait for it to stop and I’m sure you can figure a way to get on.
I was catching the Amtrak Missouri River Runner in Kirkwood a few days ago, and a woman was crossing the tracks when the gates were down. The train was seconds away from hitting her.
Yup, it happens a ton and sometimes it isn't successful
It is her Fault because she could’ve been waiting for the Train , God , I don’t like when people do that! I wish that she could have been more careful about The Railroad Crossings being down when the Train was coming because she should have known that the Train was coming, but she didn’t! I am like, What the Hell? She Could Have Been Killed! 😬
Sounded like Chris Rock in the crowd "Really Dude".......🤣
yeah a Chris rock that get split open by a fat 15 inch missile about 43 times a day
I don't know what the hell even possessed him to try to run in front of a train right like that.
Funny enough I teached a lot of people I know with common sense. In this occasion I would say " like you couldn't wait"? "Better to be safe then sorry by being late by a few minutes"
he had his phone up, so maybe he was recording?@@yuenkentsang9446
Cyclists are a different breed
You don’t watch much train videos! Railfan channel recorded a man in a motorized wheelchair with a leashed dog doing the same thing!! I believe near Cincinnati. UK video showed a woman pushing a baby buggy stepping in front of an approaching train crossing with seconds to spare!
@@yuenkentsang9446what
On the bright side, 0:44 is the first time I've even seen the middle red light on the NPCU do anything.
Same!
It's the emergency brake light. Southern Pacific had a similar light in place and I wouldn't be surprised if they influenced Amtrak to add it.
This station design provides no significant line of demarcation, barrier, or separation between passengers and the train. No handrails or barricades, no pedestrian overpass, no difference in elevation or raised platform, nothing but a damn yellow line. Apparently, the architect failed to take into account the abject stupidity of people, when they are distracted or in a rush. Yes, the person with the bike was, in fact, a dumbass. What was the designer's excuse?
So "This Sign Has Sharp Edges"??? How about PEOPLE WATCH and Look out for Themselves. I don't Want to live in a world where the government protects me from myself!!!!
hey you wanna know a significant warning that a train is coming? the really big train that's about to hit you.
we didn't used to need those things
designer don't need a excuse ever, people could go on a track anywhere millions and thousands of tracks, some make it some get killed, that's it.
That’s what his ass gets… He knew better…
yep
@@NorCaliRailroading2023 Maybe people actually getting a harsh consequence may start cutting down on the ignorance. A big inconvenience to him for his ignorance. World has gotten crazy stupid. 😔
@@blackzack304and the station agent clearly announced that the trainw would be arriving on the other track right before it arrived
@@NorCaliRailroading2023 He couldn’t have waited til it stopped though? 🤔
Not being a jerk off. But I’m sure they would’ve waited another 10 seconds, him being that close. I mean he almost signed his own Certificate lol.
WOW! What an idiot🙄
What is in his right hand, is he filming himself running in front of the train?
I love how that Engineer banned him from his train. Good for him! No Idiots Allowed!
100%
@@RailfanofChicagoandMorehell no, why would they do that for him, when he caused confusion and delay for the passengers, station agent, and the conductor
@@RailfanofChicagoandMoreper Amtrak policy, “Amtrak may refuse to carry any passenger ‘who refuse to comply with safety or security rules or with instructions of Amtrak personnel’
and
‘Who pose a health, safety or security hazard to other passengers or employees’”
“Amtrak employees or other authorized carrier representatives may such a passenger from the train at any inhabited place, as necessary under the circumstances, for any of the above reasons”
No refund is required to be issued
As well, since the San Joaquin is not reserved, his ticket (unless seized and/or canceled by Amtrak) is still valid for one year. Nothing is stopping him from taking the next train at no additional cost.
@@RailfanofChicagoandMorecry harder, soyboy
@@RailfanofChicagoandMoreno refund deserved
Never never cross the train tracks when a train is coming.
For sure!
Yes Agreed!
This shouldn't have to be said, but apparently it does
Nah...cross in front of a train when it's moving! Can everyone PLEASE CONTINUE TO STATE THE BLEEDING OBVIOUS!!!!!🥴😬😲😡
Emergency brake was applied, 0:37 is the air dumping out of the system and you can see the emergency red beacon on the NPCU flashing which only flashes when the emergency brake is applied. (0:44)
Oh wow I never noticed that! Thx
That’s impressive, the engineer anticipated it.
@@rkolsen he'd be a fine engineer if he didn't
Thank you for breaking it down in layman’s terms!
What is the use for that red flashing light? Who exactly should this light warn?
This is exactly how the situation should've been handled.
@@Boltzmann-eh7ufno way
So much of a summary of American intercity rail here. Platform crossing over the rails, last train of the day arriving in broad daylight, scheduling getting messed up because of UP freight, and of course someone being careless around trains. I'm glad at least the newer tech prevented a tragedy.
I agree with you but just a heads up, they cant run any trains later than 6 pm since the journey takes 6 hours so any train later than that would be over night
@@NorCaliRailroading2023 Oh yeah I figured but then taking longer than driving to get to Bakersfield is also another for the list.
So in America trains can’t get past midnight? What kind of limitation is that, sounds insane…
Yeah, this looks like a third world country. I can imagine a cyclist would be confused if the train just goes across the pavement like that. In the civilized world, you can only cross at crossings with lights and bells and a whole circus.
I saw a documentary where a train engineer said, “If you do this as a career, sooner or later, you’re going to kill someone trying to beat the train. It’s not a question of ‘if’ but a question of ‘when’.”
That is one damn good engineer dumping the brakes as soon as he saw him run towards the track
Good move by the engineer to decline to take the guy on the train after that bone headed move!
Amtrak driver is right.
Whos that dude giving unnecessary commentary in the background 😭😭😭
Another railfan
0:30 ACTION STARTS HERE.
Well that’s the worst train station design i ever saw. The tracks scream “cross me”.
In the UK just cross the tracks is a major fine. You use the stairs or subways to pass between platforms.
That was my thought too. The platform should be much higher than the tracks.
@@CruceEntertainment The tracks run down the middle of a street. So the whole infrastructure would need changed. Oakland/Emeryville is Broke as it is.....they ain't about to do anything.
Super alert engineer saved that bikers life.
Yup!
The emergency brakes have at least a 1 minute cooldown before they can be released; and will need to be called in before the train can continue, if Amtrak has that policy.
Thanks for that info I didn’t know that! Interesting…
Yep
The main reservoirs need tome to recharge.
They follow GCOR they must call out an emergency over the radio
Anyone with even a basic idea of math and (real applied) science can straight away understand there's an enormous amount of force necessary to bring the train to a stop, and how that all translates into heat. Right, exactly as you say. I would suspect that it might be longer, but I don't know about trains so much to know that deeply.
What was he in a rush for he could’ve just entered from the other side
No he couldn't, platform is only on one side. He has to cross, but he also could have waited for the train to pass before crossing.
@@utahrailfan1946
They should make it on both sides to prevent this motive from occurring again. Thanks for the information.
The fool had a bike too, and he could’ve just went around the train now that I think of it once it stopped.
@@42luke93 There's no realistic way to do that. They could add a third passenger track, for the other side of the platform he's standing on, but that would still cut across this area. Expanding the current platform to fill the gap is far from realistic.
@@utahrailfan1946 but I believe he was planning to hop on the train so
Drama queens. The train was running like 1 mph and the biker would’ve safely made it across the tracks even if the emergency brakes were no applied.
@@Crazy-Clown-In-Town address us as kings, nor was the train going 1 mph, you clearly know nothing about railroading or railroad safety thanks for the comment!
@@NorCaliRailroading2023 Queens is appropriate cuz that's what you are. Sissies.
From your comments it sounds like you're not blaming the bicyclist. He could have easily walked around the train after it stopped.
It was his fault, but Amtrak needs to make more clear that trains will go on track 1
@@NorCaliRailroading2023 How much clearer could it have been? Everyone else waiting to board was at that platform. Besides, has he never heard of "Stop, look and listen"? He did none of those; it doesn't matter what track the train was or was not on.
@@greenmanofkent maybe amtrak should do more than just 1 announcement 5 minutes before the train arrives for last minute passengers right?
I mean those train bells are very clear to me. If you hear those bells and you see a track, maybe you shouldn’t cross
There were like 30 other people waiting on Track 1, so clearly this isn't an Amtrak problem about "making it more clear that trains go to Track 1" @@NorCaliRailroading2023
Blimey! That's fast for a railway line without platforms. I know trams run fast in the street but you don't expect to see a train doing it on a level surface. Props to the driver from an ex main line passenger train driver 👏👏👏
Downtown Oakland must be a SCARY place to drive a train!
Excellent response by the Amtrak Engineer, both in stopping the train and banning the biker.
yup
@@NorCaliRailroading2023 Now IF.......the biker would have waited, he would have boarded correct!? What's even the waiting time of boarding at that station? there is a ramp at the front of the platform to go around the engine correct? 🚅🚂
@@RADIZZLE4000 no ramp, but he could just walk around the train, the train boards a bit further up
How humiliating, welldeserved though.
This couldn't have happened in the UK, where all stations have platforms. I'm amazed to see all those people standing at track level waiting to get on a train. 😮
Even the most dilapidated mainline rail stations in malaysia have platforms, i can't fathom not being able to simply raise the platform higher, making it slanted on each end for wheelchairs and overall easier acccess.
No there is a platform behind my tripod
I fully agree! The person who is crazy enough to build this should think twice!!
It’s interesting that no one could possibly run in front of a train in the UK.
The UK has a fair few platformless crossings.
On the East coast, cyclists stop trains by having rail trails built
lol
I thought that was more when they were ripped up because they cannot compete with car addicts and cyclists get flung a tiny shard of a bone as we all lose out on good infrastructure in the long run!
@@5688gamble That is in theory; in practice, political strings pulled result in closure, and potential transit corridors are converted into linear parks much to the delight of the NIMBYs ; and the highway lobby.
Do you live near the Saranac Lake area? They recently tore up a beautiful rail line and made it into a trail. What a shame because that was a good stretch of railroad that I'm sure would be useful to get around the north country.
that man couldve became a beef patty instantly
on my grill
That’s what the cow catchers for
@@MrThatnativeguy 💀
@@MrThatnativeguy cow catcher doesnt always catch everything underneath
beef patty with mozzerella cheese
Guy behind the camera is a first class instigator
Either side of the station has walkways to the other platform, and yet, this guy didn’t use any of them, he just cut in front of the train.
He has a bicycle what's the problem? He can ride that and think about why he isn't on the train. LOL
yeah he can totally ride a bike all the way to bakers field LMAO.
The cyclist: "C'mon man, share the road!"
This "platform" or "station" is ridiculously dangerous! It forces people to cross the tracks! Except you can enter the train on two sides!? - which I do not assume!
The train was driving slowly already and should have stopped in approx. 30 meters. So what is the fuss about?
People are not using their senses and brain, that is why it is important to build everything idiotproof! Here it is not!
It is a poorly built station for sure
lmao these railfanners are so cringe
Cyclists are just a moving darwin award aren't they
lol yes
I was on an Amtrak from California to Oregon when it cut a pickup truck in half. Fortunately, the driver suffered only minor injuries. It was crazy how we didn't feel any impact at all. We just started slowing down and I looked out the window and saw half a truck with a guy sitting in the driver's seat with both hands still on the wheel.
Me and the fam were on the California Zephyr Amtrak and we hit a MASSIVE tree trunk somewhere in Colorado. I only know because I saw it splinter and fly off out my window. Didnt feel a thing.
why would someone design flat platforms at the same level like the tracks at a passenger station?
It's easier to cross
@@lalakerspro but more difficult to bord or debord the train. It has been decades since I saw the last rather flat platform, but it wasn't at ground level like this one. Would make more sense to have a pedestrian crossing, underpass or bridge
There is a bridge but it goes to the shopping complex instead. The flat track isnt used that often anyway. People just need to have common sense and not walk across a track when the train is coming@@EnjoyFirefighting
@@lalakerspro still seems to be an obvious hazard ... guess why our crossings are made idiot proof ... for the few people which lack common sense
Yea, they can definitely install a pedestrian crossing at that track at each end, but this is the only station on the line that people cross tracks like this, the rest have a crossing, underpass, or are single tracked@@EnjoyFirefighting
Near miss! You should come to India bro your definition will change from 0 that is now to 100
There is a reason why Indian Railways worked so hard to eliminate all unmanned level crossings. Next step they are taking is automatic doors on all suburban trains in Mumbai. These two steps alone will cut down deaths on Indian Railways by half. The remaining deaths will continue to be mostly due to the kind of accident that was about to happen in this video.
I have seen trains in India at a level crossing, it was very interesting and different, it was a manned crossing too
This isn’t India!
@@rickdee67 Don't worry, the hordes that have come here from there are comitted to make it over in their home country's image.
@@rickdee67 no shit sherlock, It's called a comparison.
Okay while what he did was stupid
Why the fuck is the station designed like that? Whats a yellow line going to do? Thats just several lawsuits just waiting to happen!
People also need to realize that the engineer dumped the train at 0:37. Had he not plugged the train then he would’ve been hit bc it wouldn’t be stopping nearly as quickly
Exactly, people say "not that close" but in reality without the emergency brake being dumped early on, that biker would have been toast
They are yelling like GTA npc's 🤣
Not me 😅
lol I was hoping I would find this comment
Imagine being an adult and not knowing how to cross 😂
Everyone knocking this guy has never had to catch a train in LA. The video even explained this wasnt the normal track, that guy on the bicycle was rushing to get on the train that wasnt arriving on the set of tracks it was supposed to, i see people miss them every week because of last minute track switches.
Train was going 15 miles per hour tops. Not saying it wasnt rude to the amtrak but everyone acting like he almost died is being dramatic. He jaywalked at a train stop.
Looks like a complete miss to me. Why do people say near miss?
He applied the emergency brake... without it that guy would be toast
he was literally on a collision course until the engineer dumped the air from the brakes
OH MY GOD, HOW DO YOU EVEN PULL THIS OFF. Is it REALLY that difficult to just wait until the GODDAMN TRAIN PASSES????
@@PiotrBarcz I know right?
@@NorCaliRailroading2023 Wow that was a fast reply, I just scrolled down and hit my own comment again and I saw it was updated xD
I've been reading the comments here. We've got a lot of smart people and then there's the handful of idiots as usual 😂
Great video, thanks for bringing the danger of crossing rails with a train coming to an even brighter light than it already was in!
0:38 For this minimum mandatory punishment should be:
1 year in jail (no less)
and coverage of COMPLETE cost of the stoppage of the train, delay time, material wear..
all of it.
Then they (he) will learn.
calm down hitler
Hi, would it be ok if I Use a brief clip of this for a student documentary I'm making about the quiet zone in Downtown San Diego? To demonstrate how a lot of people don't respect train safety.
@@bocchilaroque yes please!!!
Well this is like the most stupidest thing ever. If u are so strict with laws then at least build an overhead pedestrian bridge for the late arrivers and a fence to guard either side of the tracks. This is probably the most irresponsibly built and dangerous train halt in the entire world.
Very true!
After watching trains & peoples in india,this here was not close one!the train was slow and he had enough time!
But why is the station platform on ground level? I have never seen something like this here in Germany. It seems dangerous to me.
It’s only used about 4-5 times a day, only long distance services use it and sometimes regular trains if there is another train on the other track
America baby, nothing is allowed to get in the way of cars, transit riders are second class citizens. Most are ground level.
What you see isn't actually the platform, it's just a crossing. The actual platform area is just to the left of the camera view.
@@utahrailfan1946 exactly
Low level platforms are normal in the us. Most stations can’t justify hi level platform and the equipment is all low level or has steps
1:11 Bad move right there, bad move.
lol
I work this route from Roseville Ca. to Bakersfield and it is the worst for pedestrians and cars going through the gates trying to beat the train.
The central valley is crazy!
I love those NPC ass railfans 😂
Rail safety is no joke, those railfans had every right to react the way they did, so don't treat this scenario as a joke
@@shanewalters2565 Not saying it’s not. I just find how enthusiastic they were funny.
Biker things he'll make it. It'll be close but he'll make it.
He honestly has no idea how batshit scared the crew is because of his actions. They don't know if he's going to make it, and now their heart is in their throat.
Ya, the emergency brakes saved him
@@NorCaliRailroading2023nah he had time he could’ve made it the train operator is exaggerating it
Banned from tv taught me not to cross the tracks when a train is coming.
"Last train of the day?" BWAH-HA-HA!
Hey, he's got his bike to pedal wherever he needs to go! A hundred miles or so! 😂
LOL
I don’t blame the engineer, that guy with the bike is not coming on the train, lol!
those bikers: we don't have respect from other drivers
those SAME bikers:
Fr bruh, I wanted to become one but not act like that.
I can only ride a scooter 💀
Some people just Really want their Darwin award...
It looked to be a safe cut to the other side, but if the biker tripped and fell, what was safe would have been disaster.
True
People never cease to amaze me with their stupidity.
Same
why does this guy have to comment on everything that is happening. "bad move right there, bad move!" so annoying
Exactly! Being a Karen.
i love trains and mass transit so much and i am very anti car and i know i should be friends with the cyclist. but, i’ve never met a cyclist that isn’t a self centered asshole.
Everybody hates cyclists for some reason
@@NorCaliRailroading2023 Bay Area cyclists have a serious entitlement mentality, that's why...
@@eastbaykidd8574 Don't I know it -- they run red lights all the time, and flip the bird at you if you honk at them for it!
why is the track the same level as the platform with nothing but a yellow lime to stop people? the only time that happens is with trams in rare cases
The train stopped pretty fast.
Ya, it must have thrown people around inside
haha i guess he is going to have to ride his bike to Bakersfield sucks to be you you
americans be like smh
lol ok
The fact the biker started slowing down before he even cleared the second track AND before the safely strip is even worse. Like dude...
He was a total idiot!
Is no one going to talk about the rare F40PH in the latest Amtrak colors? I didn’t even know Amtrak had any left, other than the cascades possibly. Let alone painted in the latest Amtrak colors.
That's actually a "Cabbage Car" or combination cab control and baggage car, converted from a retired F40PH. Spotting features would be the baggage door on the sides as well as the 5 digit road number (Amtrak adds a "90" before the old road number for cabbage cars), as well as the total lack of engine noise.
Why do your trains still share the road with bicycles? It's like a 3rd world country.
Fr
Why is a passenger train station designed like a light rail track 😅 no wonder people would do this
Since when do people need babysitting to know when a train is coming?
the thing that gets me the most, he had a bike, he could have rode down the length of track to cross first, instead of scurrying in front of the train.
Exactly!
Dude should’ve left earlier to be there on time like everyone else.
In my opinion, he should've been refused to be let on the train. Then he'd have to figure a new way home.
Didn't seem like he was going to hit him in the first place
Haha, you'd be surprised.
Bike rider is 100% at fault
0:57, my message to California Railfanner
Before 30 it sounded like Downtown GTA
lol it does!
I recently saw what an oncoming train does to cows, deers and horses that got on the track hence why I got recommended this video and it would definitely not been a pretty sight if it werent for the engineer pulling the emergency brake last second.
Yes, it could have been different if the brakes weren't dumped
Amtrak should be ashamed of its safety norms. You cannot just walk across the tracks at any European city's railway station that I have ever seen. American inter-city rail stations are so primitive, it's like the third world.
Well at least he’s got a bike to fall back on 😂
haha true
Was it just me or did I hear the biker tell the station attendant to F off?
Did he?!
America is like one big gta lobby 😂 and i like it 😂
Nah it’s happened all over the world. Check out Australia
Who is the goofy mf yelling shit? His voice soft as hell u know he sweet
i wont say encase of hate
I can't be the only one who thinks everybody over reacted... the bike dude CLEARLY had enough time to make it across before the train even got to where he was crossing. 🤣
Lmao okay buddy
@@NorCaliRailroading2023 are we watching the same video? Lol the perspective plays tricks on the eyes but to me it is very obvious he would have made it across safely with time to spare. The emergency brake wasn't needed. Nor was everyone freaking out and yelling at him. 🤷🏼♂️
they did overreact they should have let him on. I feel like i'm the only one on that opinion too though lol, because it feels totally wrong to not let someone on a ride they already paid for
He clearly did not. He was an idiot. Doesn’t matter what you think. It was the conductor’s call not to let him on after that stunt.
@@Gatekeeper201 see previous replies.