After 12+ hours of listening to this on repeat, I realize this sounds like 1. The trek if it were a battle theme 2. A genocide version of the trek while searching for Martlet on the rooftop
@@Nate2010 That's a cool concept. Though I think it would make more sense for that run to be on New Home, since the elevator in the Steamworks takes you directly to the entrance of the Core
This sounds like a Genocide equivalent to "Some Point of No Return", Ceroba's Pacifist boss theme before she puts on the mask and the actual final boss begins. Similarly, I could see this used in a battle where Martlet tries to fight us without the DT serum. Of course it'd be easy considering how powerful we've become since Snowdin, but then she could go for the syringe and the actual Genocide final boss begins.
was thinking this exactly, the general vibe of the song compared to remedy pretty well matches up to the some point of no return|a mother’s love split-up
i think the determination leitmotif might be musical confirmation that martlet injected herself with determination during the genocide boss fight. like at this point she will do ANYTHING to take you down, as long as she can prevent you from causing any more harm to others
"Surrender now and I will disarm it" "But if you do not, I will be forced to DENONATE The device" "Killing us bo-" *Clover shots the bomb, disarming it...somehow" "You Edgy Bitch" "THAT WAS A REAL BOMB YOU MANIC"
I could see this being used if Zenith Martlet had one long final attack before dying. Kinda like Disbelief Papyrus with all these hopeful yet desperate emotions that they will win or that they can get through you with their good intentions, except Martlet is actually trying to kill you while melting to death. I can even envision Martlet memories flashing through the screen as the song plays and she throws all these different attacks one last time.
It doesn't really fit the mood for Martlet's second phase ("Final stand" seems to imply that usage) as well as Retribution, but it's still really cool. I especially love the use of the Determination motif, which is adjusted to be very similar to Protocol, nice touch. Kinda wish we still had that in Retribution, or Remedy for that matter.
honestly my idea for this would be martlet is still melting but in phase 3, instead of just dying they stay alive as even once melted they survive such strong determination as they have the boss monster gene, allowing martlet to hold on for longer. martlet is even stronger than before and as the fight goes on they start to distort more and more changing from a normal appearance to looking like a amalgamate. (you see what i did there?) once defeated you shoot 3 shots and so, martlet falls off into a endless pit.
This is definitely and early version of Retribution, likely because of the many justice motifs and enemy retreating motifs in it. Similar to Retribution. After all, Marlets phase 2 is her Final Stand.
It sounds like a remix you would find on youtube instead of something that would actually come from the soundtrack, if that makes sense. I can see why they cut it
i think theres a phase 3 that only will be surviving(you cant press any button, just control your soul at the box) and marlet will be trying to kill us with all the attacks that she used,like undyne in neutral route(if you kill she, she will try to kill us with determination) and this could by possible with this leitmotif (0:58)
I actually looked through the music files to make ADOFAI levels with on day 1 or 2 of the game's release, before the soundtrack came on youtube and without knowing that it was on the Gamejolt page [ADOFAI is some rhythm game I play, not really important for this], I proceeded to find this, thought "oooh I could make a cool level with this one" and didn't even REALIZE it was unused. It sounds like a pre-phase version of Remedy fighting her before she injects herself. Sounds a lot more complete than the other Unused songs. At this point I hadn't even PLAYED Genocide [I still haven't. I don't wanna kill everyone after playing pacifist, and I'm also VERY scared of Flowey in neutral from the bit i've seen so i'm not planning on playing that either-]
I'd actually recommend playing Neutral at least until the final boss, because Steamworks changes a lot as long as you kill before you enter that area and it's really cool (any kill will do. A random Dark Ruins Flier, El Bailador, Starlo if you're a terrible person)
Are you able to reset before the final boss...? Also I'll do the random flier, I don't have it in me to kill El Bailidor [one of my favorite non-main bosses] and especially not Starlo. @@starkeeper_youtube
Dang if this were a little more fleshed out I think I'd prefer it to Remedy. Already prefer it to Retribution Metal is not my thing at all though so I'm very biased
I like to imagine this as one really long final attack post phase 2, and she instead of melting during phase 2, instead slowly melts during this final attack
There are some motiffs of Martlets theme but it doesnt sound like a genocide theme, Asgore's theme motiff can also be heard Based on that and the name I feel like this would have played on the Asgore "fight" on the flawed pacifist ending, maybe originally it was posible tp win that fight but the idea was scrapped
But we also hear Enemy Retreating from 0:25 to 0:48, so maybe there was going to be a proper Asgore fight in the genocide route if this music wasn't intended for Martlet?
@@exi_m7074 Dramatically; I can't hear Asgore's main motif, and if people are referring to the Determiation melody.... that's. probably here because Martlet injected herself with Determination. Though even if it was a direct Asgore reference it makes perfect sense in this battle, since that's who she's trying to protect.
A lot of people are wondering whether this was beta Remedy, beta Retribution, or a separate Martlet fight entirely (or Asgore for some reason?? Guys it blares Martlet's motif right in your face the moment you hit play) My theory is that it was a beta version of _both_ Remedy and Retribution -- I think the original idea was a single-phase fight, and it was scrapped and reworked into two separate themes when they decided there was going to be a Phase 2.
У меня есть 3 варианта как могла использоваться эта песня и почему от этого отказались: 1. В качестве финальный фазы или финальной атаки Зенит Мартлет, но от этого отказались, так как Мартлет получилась итак очень сложным боссом, а ещё больше усложнять... 2. На замену Remedy или Retribution, но её заменили, потому что она была слишком весёлой для геноцида. 3. Для битвы с Азгором на геноциде, звучит как бред, но во первых в этой песни нет каких-то частей выражающих её принадлежность именно к Мартлет, во вторых песня Азгора на прерванном пацефисте называется "Final Encounter", а эта песня "Final Stand", звучит довольно правдоподобно. А отказаться от этого могли, потому что наверно решили вместо этого сделать эффект неожиданности, на том что судьба Кловера не предрешена.
this honestly sounds like an undertale version of the darkest lord's theme from miitopia cool new au idea: martlet injected herself with determination but clover had aborted the genocide route so she accidentally goes zenith right before heading back to snowdin with clover and the final boss is a slightly more toned down zenith martlet instead of flowey
Its not per se for asgore. This part of asgore is a remix of determination (undertales game over theme) and since zenith injectes herself with DT thats provably what its refrencing
my guess is that they were planning phase 3 for martlet but they decided that it'd be too cringe and for once they did something right (yeah undertale yellow is perfect the only problem is too much phases i was just being negative cuz why not)
![Undertale Yellow - TODAY_MEANS_THE_END [Fan-made Track]](/img/1.gif)
Thank you, gen 3 Pokémon, for inventing trumpets
I ALSO HEART THAT THANK GOD IM NOT THE ONLY ONE
Reminds me more of Touhou but yeah I guess you're right
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After 12+ hours of listening to this on repeat, I realize this sounds like
1. The trek if it were a battle theme
2. A genocide version of the trek while searching for Martlet on the rooftop
the trek is to find martlet while she's throwing feathers at you through hotland
I like that idea
@@Nate2010 That's a cool concept. Though I think it would make more sense for that run to be on New Home, since the elevator in the Steamworks takes you directly to the entrance of the Core
This one sounds like the whole underground is cheering for Martlet to kick your ass
This is a banger idea for a geno run final boss
And then they all go home when you beat *her* ass.
This sounds like a Genocide equivalent to "Some Point of No Return", Ceroba's Pacifist boss theme before she puts on the mask and the actual final boss begins. Similarly, I could see this used in a battle where Martlet tries to fight us without the DT serum. Of course it'd be easy considering how powerful we've become since Snowdin, but then she could go for the syringe and the actual Genocide final boss begins.
was thinking this exactly, the general vibe of the song compared to remedy pretty well matches up to the some point of no return|a mother’s love split-up
UNDERTALE: YELLOW OST - "Last Opportunity To Turn Back."
I think it was supposed to be for Asgore, by just the fact that half of the track is just Asgore's theme
this honestly sounds like it would fit Geno Martlet for pre-fight music. Although i guess it's just early version of Remedy
Doubtful, this was likely a replacement retribution, it even uses the same general structure and letimotifs.
@@RaphielShiraha64 I'm thinking a phase 3 was planned and this is what it was gonna be
@@blazie42069 It sounds far too happy for the third phase of the final genocide boss, in my opinion
I think that it was supposed to be Asgore's but ok
@@francescacastronovo647 this has zero relation to asgore. This track has several martlet leitmotifs, so it's a no-brainer.
i think the determination leitmotif might be musical confirmation that martlet injected herself with determination during the genocide boss fight. like at this point she will do ANYTHING to take you down, as long as she can prevent you from causing any more harm to others
determination leitmotif?
The game over song from undertale is called determination you can hear the leit motif at this minute 1:00
oh no
martlet has the power of hoenn trumpets
we´re dead
*champion martlet challenges you to a battle*
*martlet sent out articuno*
“Get ready for my final attack Clover”
“There is a Bomb strapped to my chest…”
"Clover I forgot... you're *KAMIKAZE* "
"Surrender now and I will disarm it"
"But if you do not, I will be forced to DENONATE The device"
"Killing us bo-"
*Clover shots the bomb, disarming it...somehow"
"You Edgy Bitch"
"THAT WAS A REAL BOMB YOU MANIC"
@@francescacastronovo647 these are some... black and blue angry birds
_Martlet no longer believes in you..._
Honestly makes me wonder if there was gonna be another fight with Martlet on rooftop for the neutral route.
Song That Might Play When You Fight Martlet
[ *Martlet of the Royal Guard challenges you to a Pokémon fight! ]
I can kinda see this playing in place of Retribution, but I can also see why it was replaced (if that’s even where this was going to be)
It's structurally the same as and carries many of the same leitmotifs that retribution has
Even the melody is reminiscent, it's just sped up to fuck
* You switched to a pirate costume.
* Yarr!
I could see this being used if Zenith Martlet had one long final attack before dying.
Kinda like Disbelief Papyrus with all these hopeful yet desperate emotions that they will win or that they can get through you with their good intentions, except Martlet is actually trying to kill you while melting to death.
I can even envision Martlet memories flashing through the screen as the song plays and she throws all these different attacks one last time.
If this was a third phase for martlet I think it would be a survival phase until martlet melts completely
Clover got teleported to Hoenn.
Now they must because a Pokemon champion to return to the underground.
Oh come on, this is way too good to have gone unused.
Almost forgot she injected herself with determination and will slowly melt away.
I love the tense feel of this song, it fits how it feels to reach zenith martlet's phase 2
It doesn't really fit the mood for Martlet's second phase ("Final stand" seems to imply that usage) as well as Retribution, but it's still really cool. I especially love the use of the Determination motif, which is adjusted to be very similar to Protocol, nice touch. Kinda wish we still had that in Retribution, or Remedy for that matter.
Masive pokemon emerald vibes at beginning
The whole thing sounds like pokémon Gen 6 or Gen 9
honestly my idea for this would be
martlet is still melting but in phase 3, instead of just dying they stay alive as even once melted they survive such strong determination as they have the boss monster gene, allowing martlet to hold on for longer.
martlet is even stronger than before and as the fight goes on they start to distort more and more changing from a normal appearance to looking like a amalgamate. (you see what i did there?) once defeated you shoot 3 shots and so, martlet falls off into a endless pit.
Why does this song go inironically so fucking hard
Song that might play when you fight Martlet
I'm 95% sure this was gonna be a phase 3 track, but phase 3 was probably scrapped
You know you’re fucked when you hear Hoennpets AND Zunpets
This is definitely and early version of Retribution, likely because of the many justice motifs and enemy retreating motifs in it. Similar to Retribution. After all, Marlets phase 2 is her Final Stand.
Martlet fight but martlet left that serum in -home-
It sounds like a remix you would find on youtube instead of something that would actually come from the soundtrack, if that makes sense. I can see why they cut it
This sounds like a Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire track tbh
i think theres a phase 3 that only will be surviving(you cant press any button, just control your soul at the box) and marlet will be trying to kill us with all the attacks that she used,like undyne in neutral route(if you kill she, she will try to kill us with determination) and this could by possible with this leitmotif (0:58)
This sounds like an alternate genocide where you switch rooms to the wild east before ever meeting Martlet.
even the scrapped music of this game is insane, i love UTY
berdly if he was SIGMA!!!
I actually looked through the music files to make ADOFAI levels with on day 1 or 2 of the game's release, before the soundtrack came on youtube and without knowing that it was on the Gamejolt page [ADOFAI is some rhythm game I play, not really important for this], I proceeded to find this, thought "oooh I could make a cool level with this one" and didn't even REALIZE it was unused.
It sounds like a pre-phase version of Remedy fighting her before she injects herself. Sounds a lot more complete than the other Unused songs. At this point I hadn't even PLAYED Genocide [I still haven't. I don't wanna kill everyone after playing pacifist, and I'm also VERY scared of Flowey in neutral from the bit i've seen so i'm not planning on playing that either-]
I'd actually recommend playing Neutral at least until the final boss, because Steamworks changes a lot as long as you kill before you enter that area and it's really cool (any kill will do. A random Dark Ruins Flier, El Bailador, Starlo if you're a terrible person)
Are you able to reset before the final boss...?
Also I'll do the random flier, I don't have it in me to kill El Bailidor [one of my favorite non-main bosses] and especially not Starlo.
@@starkeeper_youtube
@@exi_m7074 As long as you're not in the actual boss fight you should be able to reset any time iirc
Dang if this were a little more fleshed out I think I'd prefer it to Remedy. Already prefer it to Retribution
Metal is not my thing at all though so I'm very biased
zenith berdly
Pokémon Shock Yellow: Champion blue theme
Edit: Martlet is blue, that was the joke
What in the Deoxys is this?! It’s amazing!
Why does this sound like a Pokémon Emerald song lol
it's most likely the french horns at the start
they could also be from mother 3 but i think they're best known from the gen 3 pokémon games
The whole song is OR/AS
It's over. Martlet got the power of Touhou soundfonts.
I think that’s me but this literally fits better instead of “Remedy”
I like to imagine this as one really long final attack post phase 2, and she instead of melting during phase 2, instead slowly melts during this final attack
There are some motiffs of Martlets theme but it doesnt sound like a genocide theme, Asgore's theme motiff can also be heard
Based on that and the name I feel like this would have played on the Asgore "fight" on the flawed pacifist ending, maybe originally it was posible tp win that fight but the idea was scrapped
But we also hear Enemy Retreating from 0:25 to 0:48, so maybe there was going to be a proper Asgore fight in the genocide route if this music wasn't intended for Martlet?
@@JonnySpec good point, I didnt heard it at first, in that case this was most likely a genocide theme then
I feel like Martlet's Motif and Enemy Retreating are more prominent than Asgore's motif though.
@@exi_m7074 Dramatically; I can't hear Asgore's main motif, and if people are referring to the Determiation melody.... that's. probably here because Martlet injected herself with Determination.
Though even if it was a direct Asgore reference it makes perfect sense in this battle, since that's who she's trying to protect.
Martlet's motif appears a lot more throughout the song so it probably was somewhat of an early version of Remedy or Retribution
For me personally, it’s not better than retribution but I’d still be hyped if this was martlet’s geno final battle theme
Retribution (beta)
we need this fight
Prepare yourself clover
*Marlet takes out an articuno*
LMAO SHINY MARTLET
nah but in all seriousness this sounds like it was ripped from pokémon emerald
this feels very Final Fantasy to me. i like it a lot !
My thoughts exactly.
Funny Bird: i have an fish friend for try finish this rampage
Sounds like pokemon
A lot of people are wondering whether this was beta Remedy, beta Retribution, or a separate Martlet fight entirely (or Asgore for some reason?? Guys it blares Martlet's motif right in your face the moment you hit play)
My theory is that it was a beta version of _both_ Remedy and Retribution -- I think the original idea was a single-phase fight, and it was scrapped and reworked into two separate themes when they decided there was going to be a Phase 2.
Yes this is what i was thinking also
dude it was literally confirmed by a dev that this was old retribution
Okay but hear me out, Undertale Red and Yellow Martlet geno Fight
Martlet:❌
Articuno:✅
(Ok but it sounds like a Pokémon theme)
There are some pokemon gen3 sound lofts that just fit so amazing on this, but i don't still understand why the soundlofts are here, but okay I guess
This sounds like if Martlet had an upper hand in phase 2 instead of Clover
У меня есть 3 варианта как могла использоваться эта песня и почему от этого отказались:
1. В качестве финальный фазы или финальной атаки Зенит Мартлет, но от этого отказались, так как Мартлет получилась итак очень сложным боссом, а ещё больше усложнять...
2. На замену Remedy или Retribution, но её заменили, потому что она была слишком весёлой для геноцида.
3. Для битвы с Азгором на геноциде, звучит как бред, но во первых в этой песни нет каких-то частей выражающих её принадлежность именно к Мартлет, во вторых песня Азгора на прерванном пацефисте называется "Final Encounter", а эта песня "Final Stand", звучит довольно правдоподобно. А отказаться от этого могли, потому что наверно решили вместо этого сделать эффект неожиданности, на том что судьба Кловера не предрешена.
У меня есть вариант что Мартлет должна была выкинуть сыворотку но потом осознать и напасть. И мне кажется что ко-будто звучит Мартлет в доспехах?
this honestly sounds like an undertale version of the darkest lord's theme from miitopia
cool new au idea: martlet injected herself with determination but clover had aborted the genocide route so she accidentally goes zenith right before heading back to snowdin with clover and the final boss is a slightly more toned down zenith martlet instead of flowey
0:02 THE TRUMPET
0:49-1:00 segment is somewhat similiar to Battle Against a True Hero
*Me waiting 4 number Lore for 19 years*
number lore is currently cancelled and it probably won't be rebooted in a while
Oh :(
Emerald ahh brass
THIS STARTED OFF SOUNDING LIKE A HOENN THEME
sounds more Iike a beta apprehension
apprehension was always supposed to be a remix of protocol though
Deoxys moment
oooh there are some asgore battle theme references in there around 1:00
Its not per se for asgore. This part of asgore is a remix of determination (undertales game over theme) and since zenith injectes herself with DT thats provably what its refrencing
Lore of Undertale Yellow Unused OST: Final Stand momentum 100
my guess is that they were planning phase 3 for martlet but they decided that it'd be too cringe and for once they did something right (yeah undertale yellow is perfect the only problem is too much phases i was just being negative cuz why not)