If this was the case then he would have to remove undies fight the speakers we can only have two bosses no more no less and a marathon new form would be a replacement for this for o
this fight needs a remaster, it's not the worst thing ever but looking back, it really isn't that balanced in some areas. now that we know that the whole point of spamton NEO was to give players a proper NEO fight, this could be redone to be around that difficulty
specifically the color memorization with the sword is a bit too much, it's just asgore's trident attack but worse, the like, waves that come out of the bullets are kind of unfair and can sometimes just be undodgeable if you get unlucky, the 4 way shooting just doesn't look enjoyable in the slightest, and... a mechanic that literally just forces you into taking damage is dumb, even if you can just heal to stop it. the thing with official undertale/deltarune fights is that no matter how challenging they are, they always still feel fair and balanced, and fangames often tend to just throw that out in favor of "harder = better" without much thought as to if the fight is FUN or not. challenging and fair can coexist, even sans feels mostly fair, but a lot of fangames just... aren't. and I know, people will say "you just have to get good at them" but if a game isn't fun to me, I'm not going to keep playing it long enough TO get good at it. it has to feel fair enough to where I feel like I'm actually able to improve and get better and that half of it isn't just RNG
The ending was really clever. Mettaton exploded to take you down with him, but doing so increased your LOVE, and thus your HP. You were able to take the hit because of it.
@@alexdacat7052 fair opinion. it's kinda odd that it references most if not all bosses in the game, even Sans, who you haven't fought up to this point.
In this context i wonder if the TWR is here because of Frisk/Chara struggle for complete control over the world or because of monsterkind desire for freedom
Imo if this song wasn’t scrapped it would be one of the best songs in undertale and a favorite fight among the genocide route because of how cool it is.
It was never scrapped. NEO was originally always meant to be 20 seconds in length, and Toby extended it for Deltarune. Eventually, that became Spamton NEO.
@@MoltenDoesThings You're thinking of the wrong thing. Power of NEO was always meant to be 20 seconds in length for Undertale, and like the newsletter confirms, Toby extended it for use in a proper fight in DELTARUNE. That eventually became Power of SPAMTON, which got scrapped in favor of BIG SHOT.
@@MarkoKrstic14 you literally have a limit on how many items you can buy. the items people usually have for sans are most of the actually good items you can get
@@papyrusse. No, this is just a what-if power of neo extended version but toby scrapped it. the actual deltarune version of this is called power of SPAMTON which is also scrapped and was replaced with what we now know as BIG SHOT
Because this was supposed to be the chapter 2's secret boss' theme, Toby wanted the players to be able to Hear the full version of power of neo but instead Toby made spamton and big shot. And btw this isn't power of neo this is power of spamton, I'm glad we got spamton because he's my favorite undertale/deltarune character and Big shot because it's my favorite undertale/deltarune ost
@@papyrusse. there were 3 versions of this, power of neo, and two power of spamton's, this is not either of the power of spamton's, also since it was made for deltarune the don't forget motif makes sense, regardless of spamton or no spamton.
Guyes i dont know if you noticed but in the end after a cut the offical music changes to unofficial and its so freaking good on the last atack you can hear JEVILS music BUT in another tone and itis soo nice i really wanted it to be official
Okay so i played the game. Beat it after dying 28-29 times. From what i see sprites are decent, the fight has fairly creative attacks, and bleeding concept and your button choices changing place because of feeling dizzy was a good idea. The damage per hit dealt is fine but this is not a real problem because in vanilla UT genocide both Sans and Undying are very punishing with their damage (especially Sans when you consider KR). The invincibility frames after getting hit by is short, but this is also fair enough. Whatever, i think the real problem this fan-game has is MASSIVE balancing issues. Some of attacks are easy and even straight up free, some of attacks are hard but challenging, and some of the attacks either require EXTREME luck, god-like skills andreaction, or straight up both. Several attacks are nearly impossible to not get hit without being very lucky. Which is a problem with a boss fight that can easily kill you in few hits even in max hp. I feel like if attacks would be more consistently difficult this fight would be better. If i must be honest i wouldn't prefer this fight being in vanilla UT. There already is Sans and Undying, you don't need an another boss that is literally even harder + also very luck based. Because if this fight was in the game this means either you will gonna fight with this with no heal item or sans with no healing item which would be just torture for an average player.
The full Power of Neo soundtrack by Toby Fox is finally out. Power of "NEO" is impressive along with Battle Against a True Hero. I hope the real battle with Mettaton NEO will be officially in Undertale.
Idea for the Mettaton NEO fight to actually work in the game: This fight is hard, so you probably used all your ITEMs, so in the sans fight the ACT button has an option to heal you random numbers of HP, so it's still "unfair" but not impossible
I do like this, but I personally think the attacks are a bit... slow. Its not very hard, which isnt a huge issue, but the attacks feel sluggish. Simply having more on screen might actually help (as in, earlier telegraphing but faster moving attacks)
@@coconutTF2 yeah but I doubt Robert Fox would put us through this much pain. I mean look at the deltarune bosses. They feel unfair but they are actually fair
You can make a fight that is not so hard. For reference in the fangame UT Yellow genocide route (SPOILERS) you have a fight with "mettaton" of the game before you face with the actual boss. The "mettaton neo" fight in the game has difficult attacks (and 1-2 of the are borderline unfair) but he takes only 1/8 of your full hp per hit and the fight is extremelly short. Toby could just make a fun boss fight that you might die 1 or 2 times but outside of that not difficult and won't gonna make you use a lot of healing items.
I’M SO HAPPY IT FITS PERFECTLY!!! By the way, you don’t have to do this if you don’t want to, but I was wondering if you could please upload a version without the editing to another scene, I think it would be better if you upload a no death version where it doesn’t get interrupted by editing. Also if you are doing this upload, could you please let the dialogue last a few seconds since I barely had time to read it? And one last thing could you please just keep Power of NEO in the final phase and not add Power of SPAMTON please? Don’t get me wrong it was great hearing it, but the song was made for Spamton and not Mettaton, so it’s weird hearing a Deltarune leitmotif in the Undertale timeline. Maybe you could try speeding up Power of NEO like in the original or just keep it at normal speed? Anyways that’s what I wanted to say, again you don’t have to do this if you don’t want to, I just feel it would be cool.
Im convinced the the first part of the song is in reference to how the fan made 2.0 fight starts with the normal version of “the power of NEO” and then because an actual song.
Imo if this song wasn’t scrapped it would be one of the best songs in undertale and a favorite fight among the genocide route because of how cool it is.
@@legendarysands4892 Then I didn't understand the newsletter because I though Toby said he started creating a full version of power of neo to put it in deltarune and then created power of spamton and finally gave up on it and made Big shot, bruh, english Isn't my first language so it's possible I have missread something
@@legendarysands4892 No this was a deltarune original song, toby said that one of his goals for deltarune was for players to finally be able to challenge a "real" version of Mettaton NEO that didn't just end in one turn and the boss concept evolved to involve Spamton
Even Toby's scrapped songs go off so hard
Sad it wasn’t used
@@legendarysands4892At least ge shared the songs
@@legendarysands4892Yeah... That's what scrapped means...
@@coconutTF2he knows
I mean it is good, very good, but in my opinion not good enough, compared to other Toby's songs
this music is so good it almost sounds as if toby made it himself several years ago and revealed it on the 9th anniversary of undertale
Thats sort of what happenned
@@drcj725that's the joke
@@drcj725I mean, given how he describes it precisely, it's obviously the joke
@QuaverIntegrity
@phantom9831 Sorry
Sorry
This is the alternate timeline where the Mettaton NEO bossfight was finished
Wasn't the battle this way to show you how strong you are and to not make Geno Cide too hard by making 2 hard bosses back to back?
@@Kowery105maybe idk
@@sans1331 Thanks for helping Sans
If this was the case then he would have to remove undies fight the speakers we can only have two bosses no more no less and a marathon new form would be a replacement for this for o
@@Kowery105mettaton neo if you weren't strong af
this fight needs a remaster, it's not the worst thing ever but looking back, it really isn't that balanced in some areas. now that we know that the whole point of spamton NEO was to give players a proper NEO fight, this could be redone to be around that difficulty
specifically the color memorization with the sword is a bit too much, it's just asgore's trident attack but worse, the like, waves that come out of the bullets are kind of unfair and can sometimes just be undodgeable if you get unlucky, the 4 way shooting just doesn't look enjoyable in the slightest, and... a mechanic that literally just forces you into taking damage is dumb, even if you can just heal to stop it. the thing with official undertale/deltarune fights is that no matter how challenging they are, they always still feel fair and balanced, and fangames often tend to just throw that out in favor of "harder = better" without much thought as to if the fight is FUN or not. challenging and fair can coexist, even sans feels mostly fair, but a lot of fangames just... aren't. and I know, people will say "you just have to get good at them" but if a game isn't fun to me, I'm not going to keep playing it long enough TO get good at it. it has to feel fair enough to where I feel like I'm actually able to improve and get better and that half of it isn't just RNG
@@kyu4903yeah
But he still needs to be easier than sans to make sense
And also most of the sprites suck ass so yeah
@@mauro27279 i mean, undertale sprites are also not the best, ngl, it fits undertale
The ending was really clever. Mettaton exploded to take you down with him, but doing so increased your LOVE, and thus your HP. You were able to take the hit because of it.
LOVE ups don't give you more HP, it just gives you more max HP.
@@Sandstheskeleton Yes, but when you gain max HP, you also get the difference in max HP between LV added to your HP.
@@tultiden2040 no you don't
@@Sandstheskeleton Just checked a genocide battle, you're right. Pretty strange case in the video, then.
@@tultiden2040Narrative wise, it’s brilliant. Gameplay wise….
Friendship ended with Power of NEO (Ikarus Remix)
Now Power of NEO Unfinished is my best friend
they're both really good
Friendship ended with Power of Neo Unfinished
NeoTech: Online is my best friend now
I'm personally still partial to Turret3471's first rendition of Power of NEO
i never really liked ikarus remix
@@alexdacat7052 fair opinion. it's kinda odd that it references most if not all bosses in the game, even Sans, who you haven't fought up to this point.
1:51 the guitar fits perfectly with this part
Is that Hip Shop motif??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!!!????
@@lily_mvnot sure
@@lily_mv i thought the same thing
@@lily_mvI mean it was supposed to be repurposed for deltarune but it didn’t get repurposed.
Is that cheres Saturn creator of Sunnyside City?!
The transition into the end of Power of SPAMTON at the end is genuinely chef’s kiss
In this context i wonder if the TWR is here because of Frisk/Chara struggle for complete control over the world or because of monsterkind desire for freedom
"the ground suits you well. Though I think you should go about six feet lower" HIT me hard
Imo if this song wasn’t scrapped it would be one of the best songs in undertale and a favorite fight among the genocide route because of how cool it is.
It was never scrapped. NEO was originally always meant to be 20 seconds in length, and Toby extended it for Deltarune. Eventually, that became Spamton NEO.
@@aerodynamo4874I think there is unused NEO attacks in the files though (reused for vulkin)
@@aerodynamo4874no it’s a scrapped power of neo not power of Spamton, it says in the newsletter
@@MoltenDoesThings You're thinking of the wrong thing. Power of NEO was always meant to be 20 seconds in length for Undertale, and like the newsletter confirms, Toby extended it for use in a proper fight in DELTARUNE. That eventually became Power of SPAMTON, which got scrapped in favor of BIG SHOT.
@@aerodynamo4874 wasn’t it meant for a full fight from UNDERTALE?
Immediately thought of this fangame when I saw the full Power of NEO in the newsletter, glad someone combined the two
4:05 WHY THE HECK IS MERCY THE FIGHT BUTTON!!?!
That's what I'm sayinnngg!!!
it says in that turn "everything in your vision starts to get blurry."
@@kelseyomori ooooohhh so the buttons are misplaced?
@@kelseyomori Oh the game wasn't bugged, I just had a skill issue. 😨 I guess I wouldn't be an Undertale fan if I could read!!!
@@AddyBromide I CAN'T READ I'M UNDERTALE FAN!!
5:13 ここのタイルピアノ感すき
0:29 the shots fired to the beat
6:40 Nanomachine, son.
Top ten anime betrayals:
you can't hurt me -Jack- Frisk
6:00 bruh. just bruh.
Drain all my items before sans why dontcha
and that's why if toby actually made a mettaton neo fight it would be one long attack instead of a full fight
Bro's acting like he doesn't have an abundance of money during genocide runs
@@MarkoKrstic14 you literally have a limit on how many items you can buy. the items people usually have for sans are most of the actually good items you can get
@@numerousbees12 So then leave those in the box and but stuff from Burgerpants
Just stock up on Legendary heroes and Glamburgers lmao
Freedom?This robot doesn’t have Freedom, and will never have that again after I’m done with him
In a different time where toby actually wanted the game to be harder
Nope, it was supposed to be for deltarune
@@papyrusse. No, this is just a what-if power of neo extended version but toby scrapped it.
the actual deltarune version of this is called power of SPAMTON which is also scrapped and was replaced with what we now know as BIG SHOT
Yeah but it was never meant to be in undertale
Yeah was for deltarune lmao
Am i the only one that thinks that it will be used for undertale's hard mod?
WHY is there a DON'T FORGET leitmotif in the POWER OF NEO
Because this was supposed to be the chapter 2's secret boss' theme, Toby wanted the players to be able to Hear the full version of power of neo but instead Toby made spamton and big shot.
And btw this isn't power of neo this is power of spamton, I'm glad we got spamton because he's my favorite undertale/deltarune character and Big shot because it's my favorite undertale/deltarune ost
@@papyrusse. ok cool thanks
@@papyrusse. This is in fact not Power of Spamton, it is Power of Neo, this one doesn't have the eerie Spamton motifs.
@@Janski14 oh really? I didn't know the full version of power of neo had a don't forget leitmotif, thx
@@papyrusse. there were 3 versions of this, power of neo, and two power of spamton's, this is not either of the power of spamton's, also since it was made for deltarune the don't forget motif makes sense, regardless of spamton or no spamton.
Lore of Mettaton NEO 2.0 Fight with Power of Neo (Extended) momentum 100
mettaton neo if you weren't strong af
🗣️🔥🔥🔥
We're so back
Ya know if mettaton just stayed on his box form he could just stop the geno run
IT FITS SO WELL
In the words of spamton g spamton “neo is known for its high defense”
2:13 Bloodlust 🗣️🔥🔥
Tidal wave🌊🌊🌊
Met the ton
MEET THE METTATON
Metric ton
@@koolkid4825tf2 riff
CALCULATOR SOUNDS
That would be so cool
From animation to legitimate game. Absolutely beautiful.
6:20 freedom motif(in undertale!)
Guyes i dont know if you noticed but in the end after a cut the offical music changes to unofficial and its so freaking good on the last atack you can hear JEVILS music BUT in another tone and itis soo nice i really wanted it to be official
Guyes i found out that after cut the seconndpart of (power of SPAMTON) OSNG STARTS PLAYING
バカパン「なんだかんだでお前は俺の良い上司だよ」
日本人いた!
Okay so i played the game. Beat it after dying 28-29 times. From what i see sprites are decent, the fight has fairly creative attacks, and bleeding concept and your button choices changing place because of feeling dizzy was a good idea. The damage per hit dealt is fine but this is not a real problem because in vanilla UT genocide both Sans and Undying are very punishing with their damage (especially Sans when you consider KR). The invincibility frames after getting hit by is short, but this is also fair enough. Whatever, i think the real problem this fan-game has is MASSIVE balancing issues. Some of attacks are easy and even straight up free, some of attacks are hard but challenging, and some of the attacks either require EXTREME luck, god-like skills andreaction, or straight up both. Several attacks are nearly impossible to not get hit without being very lucky. Which is a problem with a boss fight that can easily kill you in few hits even in max hp. I feel like if attacks would be more consistently difficult this fight would be better.
If i must be honest i wouldn't prefer this fight being in vanilla UT. There already is Sans and Undying, you don't need an another boss that is literally even harder + also very luck based. Because if this fight was in the game this means either you will gonna fight with this with no heal item or sans with no healing item which would be just torture for an average player.
"torture for an average player" that is the point of the geno run it's SUPPOSED to be torture. That's why the Sans fight exists.
@@Xhepyxopila İt would be bit too much of a torture with an extra fight like this.
This should’ve been in the game it is soooo good
The full Power of Neo soundtrack by Toby Fox is finally out.
Power of "NEO" is impressive along with Battle Against a True Hero.
I hope the real battle with Mettaton NEO will be officially in Undertale.
The hero we didn't deserved.
PLEASE. SOMEONE. TURN THIS FANGANE INTO A MOD!!!!
Idea for the Mettaton NEO fight to actually work in the game:
This fight is hard, so you probably used all your ITEMs, so in the sans fight the ACT button has an option to heal you random numbers of HP, so it's still "unfair" but not impossible
i think we can all agree everything is right in the universe now
when you realise you can hear the world revolving out of nowhere:
That thumbnail is pretty cool.
The fact i wasnt the only one who thought to day this
How did you replace the song? Because I’ve tried this, and I can’t get it to work
I can see why it's scrapped, it's not a undertale theme enough, and sound like a remix than boss battle.
That's 'cuz it was a Deltarune theme
@@Elaniden power of neo?
@@MileRedirector Toby wrote in the newsletter that he wanted to do an actual Mettaton Neo bossfight in Deltarune, which then became Spamton Neo
@@Elanidenexactly, it even has don’t forget and the world revolving in it
@@droycon No, Power of Spamton has it, not Power of Neo
This could do with a remix to make it feel more desperate or high-octane. It feels like it’s lacking something
Метадон нэо шизанулся и успел поменять время чтобы его не убили в будующем
toby if he wasnt lazy as he remembered that people would be psyhopaths and do genocide route for fun just as he was done with coding pacifist
I waited for this
Darling, did you know that NEO stands for high defense?
2:45 Mettaton is so handsome he does the 1.618
Toby had to scrap the song cuz Mettaton Neo would end the game
I do like this, but I personally think the attacks are a bit... slow. Its not very hard, which isnt a huge issue, but the attacks feel sluggish. Simply having more on screen might actually help (as in, earlier telegraphing but faster moving attacks)
Yall would not understand how hard sans would be if there was a mettaton neo boss😭
You’d have WAY less items… not a problem for the no hitters though-
I mean
It's a cool idea because sans wants you to rage quit and with less items it's more effective
@@coconutTF2 yeah but I doubt Robert Fox would put us through this much pain. I mean look at the deltarune bosses. They feel unfair but they are actually fair
@@coconutTF2but in the other hand it would be terrible
@@misterboxhead3045 That's the plan
You can make a fight that is not so hard. For reference in the fangame UT Yellow genocide route (SPOILERS) you have a fight with "mettaton" of the game before you face with the actual boss. The "mettaton neo" fight in the game has difficult attacks (and 1-2 of the are borderline unfair) but he takes only 1/8 of your full hp per hit and the fight is extremelly short. Toby could just make a fun boss fight that you might die 1 or 2 times but outside of that not difficult and won't gonna make you use a lot of healing items.
6:12 spamton restitched moment
* DIDNT YOU KNOW [Neo] ITS FAMOUS FOR ITS HIGH DEFENSE?
0:46 Bro wtf is he doing 💀💀💀
Aiming and loading his arm canon? The thing he shoots you with?
METTATON NEO IN ALPHYS ENDING (Genocide Neutral) BE LIKE:
If a true Undertale hard mode does actually happen the full version of power of neo better return
Finally
Threw in the power of spamton in at the end there I see
Oh the music has actually been replaced
extra freaky
Smells like Mettaton
Can someone explain to me why Toby scrapped this boss fight in the official game?
2:51 is that a jojo reference
I’M SO HAPPY IT FITS PERFECTLY!!!
By the way, you don’t have to do this if you don’t want to, but I was wondering if you could please upload a version without the editing to another scene, I think it would be better if you upload a no death version where it doesn’t get interrupted by editing. Also if you are doing this upload, could you please let the dialogue last a few seconds since I barely had time to read it? And one last thing could you please just keep Power of NEO in the final phase and not add Power of SPAMTON please? Don’t get me wrong it was great hearing it, but the song was made for Spamton and not Mettaton, so it’s weird hearing a Deltarune leitmotif in the Undertale timeline. Maybe you could try speeding up Power of NEO like in the original or just keep it at normal speed?
Anyways that’s what I wanted to say, again you don’t have to do this if you don’t want to, I just feel it would be cool.
hey, is leitmotif of "hip shop" inculuded in power of neo unfinished?
@@formna6980 No? I don’t think so
Honestly, I think it could be like that, just shorter to be honest.
Would have loved this fight but it’s most likely wasn’t used because sans fight is like right after this
how did you replace ikarus without the game crashing
songs a banger but i never understood the fire. like hes literally got wings???
decoration wings
Me when I have the toy knife at mettaton neo
Im convinced the the first part of the song is in reference to how the fan made 2.0 fight starts with the normal version of “the power of NEO” and then because an actual song.
i was gonna do this with the exact same fangame but i couldn't because i didn't know how to code
Can you tell me what the music is at 5:56?
Pov:they were not lazy
Mettaton NEO 2.0 has the most HP among all monsters, second only to Asgore
Mettaton NEO in the Actual Undertale Has 30,000 HP
Undyne The Undying has 23,000HP
@@lenguyenthithanhchi2167 that is canon Undertale, Mettaton Neo 2.0 has even more
@@andreicc201 how much?
@@lenguyenthithanhchi2167 near 450k and potentially more than 1M
why is power of spamton playing at the end?
6:25 that’s jevils song
No way after 7 years someone actually did a mod for it
LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOO
Mettaton neo but his def is not -40000
no way chat he used the unused musics chat omg chat chat chathchathhcathchachthctahht
6:02 mettaton fart
It sounds like BAaTH.
What’s his name???
Imagine using stick 😭😭😭😭😭😭
unfinished version!!!
WHY IS THE ATTACK A SWING?
IS THE PLAYER USING THE FUCKING TOY KNIFE??
why is he playing osu
Nah Metatoton 2.0 strongest than sans and more tenacious than Undyne the immortal
...undyne the immortal...
Sounds like bootleg undyne
5:57 The world revolving
December
Imo if this song wasn’t scrapped it would be one of the best songs in undertale and a favorite fight among the genocide route because of how cool it is.
Wdym undertale? It was supposed to be in deltarune, not undertale
@@papyrusse. it was originally meant for Mettaton neo for the genocide route but he didn’t like it and ended up using it for Spamton as a placeholder
@@legendarysands4892 Then I didn't understand the newsletter because I though Toby said he started creating a full version of power of neo to put it in deltarune and then created power of spamton and finally gave up on it and made Big shot, bruh, english Isn't my first language so it's possible I have missread something
@@legendarysands4892 No this was a deltarune original song, toby said that one of his goals for deltarune was for players to finally be able to challenge a "real" version of Mettaton NEO that didn't just end in one turn and the boss concept evolved to involve Spamton
@@JJTesyCrew so I was right then? Cool, thx
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