I can't wait to see the finished result. Last year I got the 2022 YZ450FX then added the street legal bits, insurance and Ohio 22YZ plate... It's like putting a plate on a nascar. At 100hrs I put a new chain and Dunlop 606's they work great in the street/dirt/grass/mud/sand.. I'm leaving the stock rims and going to put a smaller sprocket in the back next tire swap. I bet yours rips tires and chains up just as well!!!
Great job on the video pointing out the differences in the new bike! I went with the 450 XCF-W because it has the 6 speed gear box and the PDS chassis is much more compliant. I have both a 2021 450 XCF and a 350XCF which I race in the GNCC series. The XCF/SXF chassis is stiff and I feel like I want something softer on a Dual Sport conversion plus it is easier to make it street legal.
This or a 350 xcf? Bigger guy 235 lbs but I ride michigan tighter woods. Been on a 350 for 6 years but debating going to a 450. You think it's too much?
I love the bike, obviously massive improvements in all areas, just aesthetically I wish they tried to make it a little more symmetrical. I know KTMs have never been symmetrical with the air box and fuel tank, but the enduro tank on this model looks so different on each side it's just jarring. I know they can't make the tank perfectly symmetrical due to the header pipe and other parts in the way, but on the right side it looks like there's a lot of room they could've squeezed some volume into to get a more similar shape at least. I reckon if they made the indented textured section on the airbox cover black it would make the side plates look a lot more symmetrical too
Good overlook Mike. I'm also curious about that new fuel pump. Especially how it gets all the fuel out. Hope it has a line that feeds to the lowest point. That would be great for aftermarket tanks since you might have the option to attach a longer hose!
Man... I'm not usually a sucker for Bold New Graphics, but that is a dope look. Rad bike, and the 2024 EXC looks to be a winner. Wait til 2024 or steal a 2022/ 2023 with leftover money for Taco Moto Sauce? Great delimma to be in...
The new Wiring system looks like a huge leap forward. Now, C'mon KTM, how about a tool less seat removal system! Thanks for the video, love the content!
I’ve found this bike new at dealership with street legal kit. Turn signals and all. I’m really honed in on this particular model, not the “W”. How would you rate or judge the versatility of this bike being a 5 spd for trail riding, a little bit of commuting (no interstate) and a little bit of entry level enduro from time to time?
Awesome detail, thanks for that. Would love to see how bevelled out/thick the seat is. I miss the pre-electric start days when they had full depth foam.
I was thinking it took some Beta ideas. I really lime the layout as well. After the autopsy, I'm real curious on what kind of lights and Guage cluster would work well on it. Have my eye on the 350xcf/450xcf for maybe a deep/river sand bike build. Is DirtBike Test or Trevor hunter going to get to review it as well?
I've got three bikes right now. 500 xcw (street legal), 300 xcw and Kawasaki 450 for track but lets say I wanna go somewhere and maybe one day I want to ride on a mx track and next day do some duel sport or single track. It would be nice to have one bike that could do all 3 someday and looks like KTM is making something that could finally. Maybe in a couple years or something I'll try and get a deal on a slightly used one and work on converting it for my 3 styles of riding.
We picked up a 250 for my son and a 350 for myself. The 250 was the first one we bought and I was very impressed with the feel of the chassis and suspension. My 350 feels super cross stiff. Very rigid. I have luckys and a national shock from a beta I will be swapping too but I thought the differences were wild. Also, I believe your fuel line is on the wrong side of your head stay. Great video!
I need a plated bike for AZ/UT/CA...What's your thoughts on waiting for the 2024 EXC or making the mods on a 2023/2024 XCF ? I want/need performance and reliability. Thanks and love the channel !
I'm not a mx guy, by I have a 13 and 15 450xcf in the garage, love them. Will sell the 13 in the spring and will watch your xcf content for upgrade ideas!!!
Im picking up the 450xc-f. Im on the 19 300xc with a 38mm Kiehen. I hear the low end is similar to mine top end just goes. Im not a mx guy either. But will this bike be to much bike from the 300xc?
Fingers are crossed you will have a 450xcf, and a unicorn 19 300 xc in your quiver at the same time.. My guess is that you will use them for different riding areas. 😁😁😁😁 I fatigue faster on a 450 vs a 350xcf, but I wish at times I had the low end grunt of a 450 while riding the 350!!! My goal is to add a 24 300xc in a year, spreading hours over many bikes works for me.
@@bradl45 You cant go wrong with the 300xc. My 2019 is a chainsaw. Has untaped power to this day. I do like the Grunt sound from video's on the 450xc-f. Its almost relaxing to me. I may be putting 5k down on Tuesday....😮. I got the msrp price down a bit. I got things rolling....
When will the break down of the fuel pump be on here I would love to see that and how to take the bike to frame and engine. The old fuel pump system I hated when changing tanks
I got the 500exc 6th gear put in my 2020 xcf and it makes it the perfect bike. I geared it 4 teeth bigger on the rear and 1 less tooth on the front. Now it has a nice low 1st gear and still does 140kph topspeed. How it should be from the factory!!! Come on ktm everyone wants a 6 speed 450xcf, get it together!!
Hopefully the stator puts out more wattage now because that has been a problem if you are running a fan in tight terrain. The fan draws the battery down because the stater only puts out 35 W
I have a 23 350 xc-f, I could imagine this bike is even more fun. I love the smooth power, I rode 2 strokes for over 20 years, these bikes are so easy to ride, makes it fun again.
Very nice looking bike, ktm always seems to be on top of their r&d. I have a 21' Beta 500RR-S and noticed a few similarities that they might have learned from. Fuel pump routing is by far the best update i think. I look forward to watching the breakdown video.
so that would be first time in KTM history that they fixed something without braking other aspects of the bike or we just don't know about KTM fails with this one just yet?
Xcf doesn't have the quik shift not sure why u said that it worked great. It has the button but it doesn't work at least that's what my dealer said when I was in there deciding on this bike or the xcfw 450
@@TACOMOTOCO Yeah I just didnt know if that KTM was like one of those Yamaha WR450F's or something where the gearing is different, and would still get spanked by a KTM 350 XCF or something. Or like how a KLX300R would still get spanked by a KX250 lol. I'm not too familiar with KTM but, I can see now your bike is the top of the line one. (I wanted that 350 Kaileb Russel, but now they have a 450, wow !)
Hey man ! Been following the channel for some time, amazing content and useful information, really appreciated over here. I could finally pull the trigger on a 2023 450XC-F, got delivery date for December, somewhat n00b rider here in the dirt at least, iam looking forward to the maintenance content, disections on the xc-f, and buying parts from you in the future also. Gone use the bike in the dirt a few months and then put a snowbike kit on it for my next winter, south hemisphere, so June 2023 probably. Thumbs up from Chile !!
Curious now that you've had the bike for a bit how you feel about the 2 maps? I got a 23 250 xcf and the difference between maps 1 and 2 is very noticeable for me.
Well I like the bike in general, and the changes that they made. But I like the side number plate, but the shroud is butt ugly, kind of ruined the hole look. What can I say !
Can’t wait to see the dual sport conversion!!
That is the cleanest wiring I've ever seen in a KTM.
🔥🔥🔥
Now, how do I justify saving for a '24 EXCF 500 when I've barely broken in my '21 🤔
That thing looks sick!
I can't wait to see the finished result. Last year I got the 2022 YZ450FX then added the street legal bits, insurance and Ohio 22YZ plate... It's like putting a plate on a nascar. At 100hrs I put a new chain and Dunlop 606's they work great in the street/dirt/grass/mud/sand.. I'm leaving the stock rims and going to put a smaller sprocket in the back next tire swap. I bet yours rips tires and chains up just as well!!!
Well said. Ohio here also. #KTM
How much does this bike weigh, and how much hp does this bike have?
And still no 6th gear! Still the crappy mx gearbox, useless for trail riding, waaay too high 1st gear and 5th too slow
Nice! Just lower the fork air pressure to around 125-130 psi, it works way better and usually still won't bottom.
Bueno Suerte Senor! 🤠
Slick looking bike. I dig the fuel system routing change. Haven’t had an issue yet on my ‘22 500 but that doesn’t mean it hasn’t crossed my mind.
Sick bike! Once you get on the KTM train it's hard to get off.
Great job on the video pointing out the differences in the new bike! I went with the 450 XCF-W because it has the 6 speed gear box and the PDS chassis is much more compliant. I have both a 2021 450 XCF and a 350XCF which I race in the GNCC series. The XCF/SXF chassis is stiff and I feel like I want something softer on a Dual Sport conversion plus it is easier to make it street legal.
No footage riding the bike. Amazing
This or a 350 xcf? Bigger guy 235 lbs but I ride michigan tighter woods. Been on a 350 for 6 years but debating going to a 450. You think it's too much?
I love the bike, obviously massive improvements in all areas, just aesthetically I wish they tried to make it a little more symmetrical. I know KTMs have never been symmetrical with the air box and fuel tank, but the enduro tank on this model looks so different on each side it's just jarring. I know they can't make the tank perfectly symmetrical due to the header pipe and other parts in the way, but on the right side it looks like there's a lot of room they could've squeezed some volume into to get a more similar shape at least.
I reckon if they made the indented textured section on the airbox cover black it would make the side plates look a lot more symmetrical too
Good overlook Mike. I'm also curious about that new fuel pump. Especially how it gets all the fuel out. Hope it has a line that feeds to the lowest point. That would be great for aftermarket tanks since you might have the option to attach a longer hose!
It sucks from the bottom of the tank
@@TACOMOTOCO Plus it looks like you could change the pump without having to remove the tank.....
Yes that’s correct
Man... I'm not usually a sucker for Bold New Graphics, but that is a dope look. Rad bike, and the 2024 EXC looks to be a winner. Wait til 2024 or steal a 2022/ 2023 with leftover money for Taco Moto Sauce? Great delimma to be in...
Makes me want to wait till next year yo get a 500 now. Got a 2023 500 coming in a couple weeks.
Has there been big changes from the 2021 450 xcf to the 2023 xcf? Let me know. Thanxs. Great video!
Suspension will take awhile to break in. Will still need to be redone to be off road plush.
Still riding my 2013 450XC-W, love it!
the small flapes on fender is to avoid mud on high jumps on eyes of the rider....
Ooooo, that’s great intel. Thanks for this info 🏁🏁🏁
The new Wiring system looks like a huge leap forward. Now, C'mon KTM, how about a tool less seat removal system! Thanks for the video, love the content!
Finally led as standard for lights? Joke otherwise
This bike has no lighting
I’ve found this bike new at dealership with street legal kit. Turn signals and all. I’m really honed in on this particular model, not the “W”. How would you rate or judge the versatility of this bike being a 5 spd for trail riding, a little bit of commuting (no interstate) and a little bit of entry level enduro from time to time?
Awesome detail, thanks for that. Would love to see how bevelled out/thick the seat is. I miss the pre-electric start days when they had full depth foam.
Im tall so i put a tall seat on with more foam and it's way more comfy
She’s a beaut
I was thinking it took some Beta ideas. I really lime the layout as well. After the autopsy, I'm real curious on what kind of lights and Guage cluster would work well on it. Have my eye on the 350xcf/450xcf for maybe a deep/river sand bike build. Is DirtBike Test or Trevor hunter going to get to review it as well?
Beta ideas, ahahahahaha You do understand these bikes are being prepared 2-3 even more years before released !!!
Im think of getting an enduro version to make into a snowbike. Need electric start though.
All KTM’s are electric start for many years bow
I've got three bikes right now. 500 xcw (street legal), 300 xcw and Kawasaki 450 for track but lets say I wanna go somewhere and maybe one day I want to ride on a mx track and next day do some duel sport or single track. It would be nice to have one bike that could do all 3 someday and looks like KTM is making something that could finally. Maybe in a couple years or something I'll try and get a deal on a slightly used one and work on converting it for my 3 styles of riding.
We picked up a 250 for my son and a 350 for myself. The 250 was the first one we bought and I was very impressed with the feel of the chassis and suspension. My 350 feels super cross stiff. Very rigid. I have luckys and a national shock from a beta I will be swapping too but I thought the differences were wild. Also, I believe your fuel line is on the wrong side of your head stay. Great video!
you also have to add break in time into it if you had just got it the 350 takes around ten hours to break in where as the 250 takes about 5
Thanks for the detailed walk through! Be awesome when your finished giving it the dual sport love.
I didn’t see the oil filter on left side. No worries went back through and noticed it. Great job on the review mate.
I need a plated bike for AZ/UT/CA...What's your thoughts on waiting for the 2024 EXC or making the mods on a 2023/2024 XCF ? I want/need performance and reliability. Thanks and love the channel !
I’d wait for the 24 as any improvements from the 22.5 and 23 will be incorporated
Do they offer a 6th gear kit like the prior generation?
There’s no kit for any gen but a 6th gear can be added
You going to add a 6 gear to it
I'm not a mx guy, by I have a 13 and 15 450xcf in the garage, love them. Will sell the 13 in the spring and will watch your xcf content for upgrade ideas!!!
Upgrade!!
Im picking up the 450xc-f. Im on the 19 300xc with a 38mm Kiehen. I hear the low end is similar to mine top end just goes. Im not a mx guy either. But will this bike be to much bike from the 300xc?
Fingers are crossed you will have a 450xcf, and a unicorn 19 300 xc in your quiver at the same time.. My guess is that you will use them for different riding areas. 😁😁😁😁
I fatigue faster on a 450 vs a 350xcf, but I wish at times I had the low end grunt of a 450 while riding the 350!!!
My goal is to add a 24 300xc in a year, spreading hours over many bikes works for me.
@@bradl45 You cant go wrong with the 300xc. My 2019 is a chainsaw. Has untaped power to this day.
I do like the Grunt sound from video's on the 450xc-f. Its almost relaxing to me.
I may be putting 5k down on Tuesday....😮. I got the msrp price down a bit. I got things rolling....
Wow… Amazing changes thank you KTM
When will the break down of the fuel pump be on here I would love to see that and how to take the bike to frame and engine. The old fuel pump system I hated when changing tanks
Video already posted on our channel
Awesome bike but I don’t know why KTM won’t put a six speed on it. Makes no sense.
That’s what the new 450 xcfw is for!
I agree, makes no sense! It's a big miss for the 450 cross country bikes.
I got the 500exc 6th gear put in my 2020 xcf and it makes it the perfect bike. I geared it 4 teeth bigger on the rear and 1 less tooth on the front. Now it has a nice low 1st gear and still does 140kph topspeed. How it should be from the factory!!! Come on ktm everyone wants a 6 speed 450xcf, get it together!!
Thats what I always questioned, the 250f, 350f, 250t and 300t all come with a 6 speed, but the 450 keeps the 5 speed. Kind of silly imo.
@@TACOMOTOCO old chassis tho
Hopefully the stator puts out more wattage now because that has been a problem if you are running a fan in tight terrain. The fan draws the battery down because the stater only puts out 35 W
Output is still low but we’re addressing that in our tear down and build
I have a 23 350 xc-f, I could imagine this bike is even more fun. I love the smooth power, I rode 2 strokes for over 20 years, these bikes are so easy to ride, makes it fun again.
Very nice looking bike, ktm always seems to be on top of their r&d. I have a 21' Beta 500RR-S and noticed a few similarities that they might have learned from. Fuel pump routing is by far the best update i think. I look forward to watching the breakdown video.
A 21 foot long Beta, really (?),...
Will the husky fx 350 share parts with the ktm xcf ?
The same ones that are shared on the current platform with the addition of the new subframe
Do you think the suspension is harsh due to your weight (don't know how much you weigh) or do you think it would still be stiff for a 215lb rider?
It’s harsh because new and firmer tuning than I care for
so that would be first time in KTM history that they fixed something without braking other aspects of the bike or we just don't know about KTM fails with this one just yet?
Does this bike have a Lambda sensor for the fuel injection? Is it closed loop fueling?
No, no
Xcf doesn't have the quik shift not sure why u said that it worked great. It has the button but it doesn't work at least that's what my dealer said when I was in there deciding on this bike or the xcfw 450
In case you care, Keihin is pronounced KAY-uhn. I knew it didn't sound quite right to me, but I wasn't sure how to pronounce it until I looked it up.
Good to know. Thanks for that intel 🤘🏽
So this is one step above / faster than the 350XCF ?!
If you’re asking is a 450 faster and more powerful than a 350?
Yes
@@TACOMOTOCO Yeah I just didnt know if that KTM was like one of those Yamaha WR450F's or something where the gearing is different, and would still get spanked by a KTM 350 XCF or something. Or like how a KLX300R would still get spanked by a KX250 lol. I'm not too familiar with KTM but, I can see now your bike is the top of the line one. (I wanted that 350 Kaileb Russel, but now they have a 450, wow !)
Hey man ! Been following the channel for some time, amazing content and useful information, really appreciated over here.
I could finally pull the trigger on a 2023 450XC-F, got delivery date for December, somewhat n00b rider here in the dirt at least, iam looking forward to the maintenance content, disections on the xc-f, and buying parts from you in the future also.
Gone use the bike in the dirt a few months and then put a snowbike kit on it for my next winter, south hemisphere, so June 2023 probably.
Thumbs up from Chile !!
Curious now that you've had the bike for a bit how you feel about the 2 maps? I got a 23 250 xcf and the difference between maps 1 and 2 is very noticeable for me.
I have asked for the address of the motorclyle shop but they don't show it.
That's what criminal do
See
We’re not taking in bikes or doing repair work currently. You can see our website to order any parts as needed
Yeah Man!
Thanks Mike!
Great overview of the new bike! Any thoughts on the handling characteristics of the new chassis compared to '22?
Only missing a 6 speed
Stator and a 6th gear
Damn that thing is trick.. new pegs look amazing.
Well I like the bike in general, and the changes that they made. But I like the side number plate, but the shroud is butt ugly, kind of ruined the hole look. What can I say !
You’ll get used to it
Bike is mind blowing good
Did the new 450 xcf-w (enduro) get these new updates or is it still old generation platform?
That new model is on the 20-23 enduro platform. Next year it will be on this chassis
do you think the 23' 350xcf will have similar improvements ?
Note on the KTM website what models are on the all new chasis
Did you ride it??
It’s called a Cross Country bud
Thanks bud
Quick Shift is only on the SXF, no? I think the XCF doesn’t have it.
Your correct but It does have the button but doesn't and can't work
@@jromem7313Incorrect. It does have it, and they work.
@justinbradley3924 the 24s maybe when I got my 23 it wasn't an option for it to work but that was 6 months ago
Yeah your not on KTM payroll.
Yea no
I’d be fired for criticizing the past gen so much and praising beta whom they’ve clearly followed w this new bike
A 23 foot long KTM,...can’t even master the basics.
Huh?
@@TACOMOTOCO Nevermind, my remark explains the obvious quite clearly, yet you still missed it, “ huh” is an entirely appropriate response from you,...
@@gregflores8959 wow man, fun convo this is
👍👍👍♥️😍💪🔥✌️🏁
Is this a green sticker registration bike for California?
Nope
who cares
Should I wait for the 2024 model vs the 2023 model for the EXC F 500? You mentioned a new chassis coming for those models next year.